1 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Everybody, welcome to Between the Horns. It is Wednesday, May 2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: twenty ninth. It is just after nine thirty am Pacific 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: time here in Agora Hills, California. We are getting this 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: done early so we can go over and watch some practice. 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: How are you to Mark, I'm good man. I'm rocking 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: and rolling, having a whole bunch of fun, same old stuff, 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: rocking and rolling, having a whole bunch of fun. Did 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: we just like Football's back? We? No, it's not. Oh no, 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Look what did you see yesterday? I saw the field 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: filled with what foot players with with what going? Football? 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Season is back? Where where football is back? Football? Okay, 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: so here I will I was not. I was not 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: intending to go rail against this in the open of 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: this show. But since you brought it up, what are 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: you railing? A football is back? Is this saying that 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: we all have and it just gets overused? Right? Football 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: comes back like five times before it actually comes back. No, 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: it's not because free agency. There's the draft, there's the business. 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking football where you actually get to see people 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: running around. I hear you. But when as rush moves, 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: But I will tell you this when the Super Bowl ends? 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Right and three to four weeks later, usually three, we 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: have the combine. What do people say, it's not foot 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: football is back. No, No, you don't. You don't say Olympics. 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: That's the pajama Olympics. You know what that's about. I 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: know what that's about. Jock for a position. I'm not 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: saying that you say this, but this is what people say. 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: But only only you and I matter. Right now, I 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: could care less what they say. The comb ball is back. 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: When you see football players on a field doing football things, 31 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: the combine. Football is back. Free agency, football is back, 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: the draft, excuse me, the start of the offseason. Program 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Football is back. The draft. Football is back. OTAs football 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: is back. Mini camp football is back. Training camp football 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: is back. The preseason first game football football season game. 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: You does the dress, rehearsal. Football is a guy week one, 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: dick his hands underneath somebody's butt and take a snap. 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Football is back. Period. We're on the field, we got 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: helmets on, we're doing stuff. Give me getting ready to 40 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: compete with other football teams. It starts now. Football is back, 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: gives us like springball in college. It is You're right, 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: thank you that football is back. Everything else is nonsense. 43 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Week one. To me, football is back. 44 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: Oh did you listen to Steve Harvey? You can't sleep 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: in until four o'clock in the morning on the West Coast. 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: You will never be a millionaire. Tell that to Aaron Donald. 47 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: What's different? See, well, I would say week one football 48 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: is back for him? Yeah, I gotta thought. I would 49 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: love to see Aaron Donald, like, I mean, just for fun, 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: compete with CrossFit guys in the sas for what he 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: does and what they do, you know, I bet he'd 52 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: be pretty damn good at probably Yeah, I mean just 53 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: his all around ability. I mean, you know, weird watching 54 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: him go about his business, looking at his body type 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: and how he's keeping in shape, stand in shape and 56 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: getting better. He might be the best all around player 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, period in today's game. Yeah. I mean, if 58 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: this were high school, if this were a different level 59 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: of football, you would ask him to do more for 60 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: your football team. You might even actually ask him to 61 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: carry the football. You would probability, yes, yes, So you're 62 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: getting to see a specialized role for him. That's that's 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: just the way the league is. What's awesome right now 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: is that he's here, that he is in Los Angeles 65 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: and he is participating in this offseason program and what 66 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: he does rubs off onto others, no doubt. You know. 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: There was that little Netflix thing and I think it's 68 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: gone now, was about Usain Bolt, and it's funny talking 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: or listening to Usain Bolt talk about Usain Bolt. It's awesome. 70 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: It's everything you think he would be. But hearing other 71 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: sprinters talk about him and how they feel in a 72 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: heat or race that he's in or not in. You know, 73 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: if he's not there, it's a different sort of intensity. 74 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: When Bolt is going to race and you're lining up 75 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: next to him, it's like the only thing that matters 76 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: is your first step, you know, That's it. I could 77 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: care less about the pregnancy, mom house whatever. It's about 78 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: this seriously, because you're facing the best. So when Aaron 79 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: is on the field, you have no choice but to 80 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: match his intensity, either trying to block him or trying 81 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: to be next to him. Yeah. So it just raises 82 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: the game of everyone involved. And that's that's that's that's 83 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: what you want as as a football team. It is 84 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: And what was interesting yesterday was hearing him talk about 85 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: how he says he has things that he can still 86 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: clean up and fix which at a certain point you're like, 87 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: wait a minute, how yeah, well, what do you mean? 88 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: Because it's interesting though, because when you see things like 89 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: that and you get the layperson like me or like 90 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: field Yates, right, who is one of ESPN's fantasy inside ers. 91 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: He does good work there. And he tweets back after 92 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: we tweet the article out because I'm assuming this is 93 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: in reference to some work around the house and not 94 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: his football skill set, because I'm pretty sure the ladder 95 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: would be harder to improve. Okay, he's joking. I mean 96 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: everybody can improve. I'll say this about you know, guys 97 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald, and this is not new when you 98 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: talk when you talk about once in a lifetime guys, 99 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: and I'll bring up Lawrence Taylor, right, Yes, just dominant J. J. 100 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: Watt for a time, maybe still that guy. He's just 101 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: that dominant to where he changes everything. So no team 102 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: should be dumb enough to allow Aaron Donald or the 103 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Special to do what they do best. They should take 104 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: that away first and make you have to go to 105 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: your secondary. So what you do when you're when you're 106 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: facing Donald is run away from him. That's number one. 107 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: You can't run to him because it'll be a tackle 108 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: for loss. So runaway, runaway is tough for a defensive tackle. 109 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: It's a guaranteed combo block. Nine times out of ten. 110 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: That backside guys looking to chop you, and then you've 111 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: got to deal with that and then sprint to the football. 112 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: That gets boring after a while, it really does. Yeah, 113 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: so your your effort in pursuit kind of wanes a 114 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: little bit. Even if you go balls out one hundred 115 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: percent on a backside play, there's a twenty percent chance 116 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: that you make the play. So what you wind up 117 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: doing is just burning up your energy. So what you 118 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: see guys as they go into coast mode smart. Everyone 119 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: wants to coach guys to get to the ball faster 120 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: and faster and faster, but in reality, you can't spread 121 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: down the line fifteen sixteen yards per play and then 122 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: be ready for a third down. You'll be gassed out. 123 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: But that's the stuff you can improve on. When the 124 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: ball goes away from you, make sure you're taking in 125 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: the right angles. Make sure you're not getting lazy, make 126 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: sure you're not fighting some stupid battles behind the play 127 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: because this guy took liberties. That stuff is how you 128 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: get better for guys like Aaron Donald. Well, what's been 129 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 1: interesting is hearing Aaron Donald also Michael Brocker's talk about 130 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: coach Eric Henderson, the new defensive line coach. You've got 131 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: some sound from Aaron Donald's press conference yesterday. I want 132 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: to play it right here. Coach Enny broke down family 133 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: me and seeing a lot of things that I need 134 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: to get better at. And you know, I'm just listening 135 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: to him, trusting him, and you know, working on my game. 136 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: I've been loving coach hitting this for it. That's why, 137 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, one of the main person that I want 138 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: to be here to work with the guys and also 139 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: work with him. He's working a lot of different drills 140 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: that I feel like can help me get better prove 141 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: my game, and he's pushing me. You know. Like I said, 142 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: he broke down stuff with me and showed me things 143 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: that I need to correct in my game. So have 144 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: him here, have him coach me with with the different 145 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: drills out that got us out there doing things that 146 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: I actually needed to work on, that I needed prove 147 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: and just decided to keep working on. So that's Aaron 148 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: Donald right there talking about defensive line coach Eric Henderson. 149 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: What did you think of that. That's that's the most 150 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: I've ever heard him talk about one subject in recorded history. 151 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: You want to know some inside baseball. That's actually two 152 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: different answers that I melted to, Oh did you really Wow? 153 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: You've actually got him to say something more than twenty first, 154 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, the second part of the answer was was 155 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: one the answer to one question when he was talking 156 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: directly about Eric Henderson. But you know, when you're talking 157 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: about a defensive line coach. And I don't think that 158 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: this is something that Michael Brockers and Aaron Donald have 159 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: intended to do where it's an insult to somebody else 160 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: who was not here before. But they basically have made 161 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: it clear that Henderson has been coaching them very hard, 162 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: and that's not necessarily something that they experienced before. Well, 163 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 1: another sport that I'm interested in, you know boxing, love boxing, Well, 164 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: one of the best boxers in the world. Just change trainers, 165 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: Triple g ganad love can change trainers. Right, So this 166 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: is a guy that you know and you fight. You 167 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: fight to get the biggest fights possible, make the most money, 168 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: and become the undisputed champion of whatever weight class you're in, Right, 169 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: So you know, finally you build yourself up to where 170 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: you you get an opponent and Canelo Alvarez and you 171 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: get a chance to fight him, right, and it's a 172 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: huge fight, and you come up empty. It's a draw, right, yes, okay? 173 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: And not only is it a draw, it's what you 174 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: used to do and how you looked against certain opponents. 175 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: It looked different against this guy, right, I thought tripled 176 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: you on that fight. Oh I'm with you, but kill 177 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: your point. So it's just as many people on the 178 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: other side to said Canelo one. Right, that's why you 179 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: have draws. Okay, So what do you do? You fight 180 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: the guy again? Now you come up short. Okay, So 181 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: you know in your heart you can beat this guy. 182 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: Or this guy isn't as good as everyone says, or 183 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: he's not as good as me. I know this. So 184 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: what's the difference. Well, maybe my training needs to change. 185 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: So what Triple G JAZ does change trainers? I got 186 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: a different guy. I need a different approach, I need 187 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: different ears, I need different that. So my point is, 188 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: no matter how good you are, everyone needs coaching. You know, 189 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: even a guy coming off a twenty sack season needs coaching. 190 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: Right now, It's hard for some coaches to actually talk 191 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: to that guy because they don't know how, they have 192 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: no frame of reference. How do I make this guy better? 193 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: He's already the greatest I've ever seen. Well, if you 194 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: get to that point where you can't coach Aaron, you 195 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: don't need to be here, you know what I mean, Yeah, 196 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: you need to move on to someone else. So fresh ideas, 197 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: and from what I can tell watching this guy drill 198 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: the D line, he's got a lot of fresh ideas. Yeah. 199 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean they're moving left, they're moving right, they're practicing balance. 200 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: You know, you're not going to be stucked just right 201 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: and left, you know what I mean. If you play 202 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: on the left, i'd expect this. If you're on the 203 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: right side, expect that. No, you've got to be well 204 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: rounded and you're going to move. This is stuff we 205 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: haven't seen out of Aaron or this D line in 206 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: a while. So you know, if you're out of ideas, 207 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: time to move on. Yeah, And I think that's part 208 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: of why Eric Henderson is there in the first place, right, 209 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: and he has these fresh set of eyes. He has 210 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: some new ideas. And the other thing, though, is it's 211 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: not just that Aaron needs to be coaches that he 212 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: wants to be coached. This is a guy but really 213 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: has a desire to become one of the greatest of 214 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: all time. And I think you know from based on 215 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: what we've seen, he's on that track. No, right, you know, 216 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: I heard this a long time ago. If you give 217 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: players information they can use, they'll listen, absolutely, And I 218 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: mean from Dion Sanders to Jerry Rays to guys that 219 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: are have been immortalized in Canton forever. All those guys 220 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: needed guidance, They needed coaching, and they wanted it too. 221 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: But the needed part. Every player, anybody that puts on 222 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: a helmet, needs coaching. Anybody that does anything, I think 223 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: can use coaching. I mean we don't always call it coaching. 224 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: We talk about learning different things, learning different aspects. I 225 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: certainly could use some learning about different aspects about my job. Right, 226 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: what in your ass, that's what you need? You know, 227 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: that's that's that's exactly what you need. That's that's that's 228 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: neither here North perhaps yet listening to what's going on 229 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh with Roethlisberger and how people are talking about him, 230 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: he's got the power, which means he's a different breed. 231 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: You're you're no longer part of the football team. It's 232 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: everyone and Ben Right, you know that's not how it 233 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: should be, you know what I mean, Well, it can't 234 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: be that way. He did admit, you know, recently that 235 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: he was kind of a bleep whole to Antonio Brown 236 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: last year. We'll easy to do, I know, when Antonio 237 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: Brown is already gone. Yeah, Antonio Brown is tough to 238 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: deal with, man, you know, I mean, look, I love 239 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: his talent, Like Randy Moss, I loved his talent, but 240 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: there's stuff that comes with that talent that you just 241 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: have to kind of grit your teeth and get through. 242 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: Like when didn't Antonio Brown like live tweet from a 243 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: locker room he was Mike tom when he was on 244 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: Facebook live, like putting the video of basically the postgame 245 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: speech on see now, that would have gotten your ass whipped. 246 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: That stuff that doesn't belong out. We don't do that, period, 247 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: and we definitely don't do that then, Bro, that stuff 248 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: didn't exist when you were in the locker room. I know, 249 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: I know the point that you're getting at, but I'm 250 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: also calling you it's all the same stuff. Like I 251 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: can talk like when cell phones used to go off 252 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: your meeting. Yes, it's the same sort of stuff. We 253 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: don't do that, period, and we definitely don't do that. 254 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: Then who the blank is calling you at nine o'clock? 255 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Everyone in your circle should know we're in a meeting 256 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: right now, exactly. Yeah, unless your house is on fire, 257 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. And if we find out it's 258 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: some you know, some random that's calling you from your house, 259 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: you know that you left there to come to No dude, No, no, 260 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: you better score six touchdowns next week, no doubt. Well 261 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: he probably could. Yeah, that's what I But it's tough 262 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: to deal with those guys. I mean, you have to 263 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: grit your teeth, yes, which is why it makes it 264 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: so much better that Aaron Donald is the kind of 265 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: person that he is. Right when you're talking about somebody 266 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: who is great, who wants to be great, who wants 267 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: to elevate those around him, and you don't deal with 268 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: the extracurricular stuff that's like that. Yeah, I mean I 269 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: love it that. Even if you have a guy that 270 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: you know burns it at both ends at night and 271 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: he shows up every single day and you get to 272 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: hear those stories, I mean, that's I think that makes 273 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: it very different. It's been burning at both ends and 274 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: we never get to see you or we see you 275 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: on social media and you're not here. That that that 276 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: that that just that kills everything. No, it definitely does. 277 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: Something else I do want to talk about, and it's 278 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: another defensive guy. It's Marcus Peters. So he is entering 279 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: the final year of his rookie contract. He is on 280 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: that fifth year option after being a first round pick 281 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, and some contract talk came up yesterday 282 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: after the after the OTA, the first OTA of the week, 283 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: and so he was asked about how he might feel 284 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: about Zavian Howard getting a kind of a record setting 285 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: d down there with Miami and how he feels that 286 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: might affect either his contract negotiations, basically, how he is 287 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: feeling about the contract negotiations. So let's get to that 288 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: sound right now. I want to get to the Silver 289 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: Bowl and win it. It's fine, That's what I want 290 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: to write. Really, all the rest have to take care. 291 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: So is that any CONCERNA pile like way to have 292 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: maybe an extension done before training camp starts back to 293 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: the bow? Yeah, don't matter to me me. The boy rests 294 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: stuf would take care of. So. So that's not an 295 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: issue with you. No, No, John Win, that would take 296 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: care of So. Also that's Marcus Peters. They're speaking with 297 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: Gary Klein. Also Lindsay theory asked one of those questions before, 298 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: so shut out to them in the scrum, No doubt. God, 299 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: that's a great reality show what Marcus Peters answering questions Marcus, 300 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: Gary and Lindsay just you know, let's let's see if 301 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: I can get him to answer anything. You know, you're 302 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: good for him. I mean, it is it's all the distraction, 303 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: all that stuff about business. It doesn't belong on the 304 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: football field, right, And that's that's that's what that's why 305 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: we love Marcus Peters. It's all about the game. And 306 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: he's right that business stuff will take care of itself. 307 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: But I mean we're not fools in here. Of course, 308 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: it's in his head somewhere. Yeah, it's being talked about here, 309 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: it's being talked about by his agent. I mean, there's 310 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: there are questions that need answers, you know what I mean, sure, absolutely, 311 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: And I think if he I think he wants to 312 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: say the right things, and I think he means what 313 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: he's saying. Yeah, it's that kind of deal, because Marcus 314 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: Peters is nothing if he is not a genuine human being, right, 315 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: So if that's what he's saying, I think we get 316 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: to take him at his word, even though he is 317 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: talking to the media, even though all these different things 318 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: are happening. I mean, Marcus Peters is the kind of 319 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: guy where he routinely curses during his media scrumbs, right, yeah, 320 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: because he understands that like, look, I'm just gonna be mean, 321 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be real and oftentimes either those things 322 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: are gonna get at it it out or you know, 323 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: they are dispersed in places where they can't be seen, 324 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter to him. So I think when 325 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: he's saying, my goal is to get back to the 326 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: super Bowl and win it this time and if the 327 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: contract stuff, it will take care of itself. I believe him, 328 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: no doubt. Do you think he's the joker type? Does 329 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: he want to bring us to his world? Like when 330 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: he cusses in the media scrum. Should this just be 331 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: allowed or is he going for the beat? You know 332 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: what I mean? Why are you guys so sensitive if 333 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: I cuss or I'm going to cuss because I know 334 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: you can't use it Oh no, I think it's the former, 335 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: like just bring it, bring it in. Sometimes it might 336 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: be the latter, but mostly I think it's the first. 337 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: That would be cool like a like an app, you know, 338 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: an ESPN app or everything is like it's rated R. 339 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: It's unfiltered. Yeah, we're not going to bleep anything, you know, 340 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: and we just we just talk like we really want 341 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: to talk. Yeah, yeah, because that's the more interesting conversation. 342 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: It's so funny. Man. Well, if we were on Serious XM, 343 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: we could do that, but it's so funny like when 344 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: you talk serious XM. If you want to pick us up, 345 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: no doubt. You talk to players in one on one 346 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: settings or just small group settings, and you get to 347 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: see the guy's personality right right the minute you put 348 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: a microphone or a camera in front of him, everything changes. Well, 349 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: it's I mean another sort of inside baseball thing. It's 350 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: why I sometimes really preferred baseball. It's one of those things. 351 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: It's a turn did you just say inside thing? People 352 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: say inside baseball when they're referring to like when you 353 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: say the words baseball, I just tune out. That's fair. Yeah, sidebar. 354 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: Did you see that MLB kind of punished Tim Anderson. No, 355 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: they they've sort of started to try to put a 356 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: muzzle on him. So I'm an Avid Dan Lebotard show listener. Yeah, 357 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: Dan Lebotard had on Tim Anderson us a short stop 358 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: for the Chicago White Sox. He is the only African 359 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: American player in that clubhouse, which, yeah, I love this dude. Yes, yes, 360 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: he's the bat flip guy. Yeah, you shouldn't say he's 361 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: a bat flipper. He threw the damn bat. Well, if 362 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: he's throwing the bat, then that's like going at somebody. 363 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: He didn't throw the bat. He flipped the bat. He 364 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: threw the damn things. Okay, thing fair enough. So he 365 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: goes on the Dan Lebotard Show and they're asking him basically, hey, 366 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: you know, do you enjoy following baseball? Do you like 367 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: watching baseball? And he's like, no, baseball's boring. Yeah, I 368 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: don't follow baseball that much. Baseball is boring, you know. 369 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: And so then apparently the White Sox have like started 370 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: to curtail his interview media stuff. Look, Bryant Gumble and 371 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: the Bob costas Is of the world, Rob, they love 372 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: that sport. That's a part of the sport. They don't 373 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: consider that boring. They consider it professional. This is where 374 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: we agree to disagree to me, I just I'd rather 375 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: go to another movie. Yeah, you know, I can't sit 376 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: through five hours of this. You know, usually five hours, 377 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: it's like three three and a half. If you get 378 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: a really good pitching matchup, it could be two and 379 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: a half. True. How often does that happen? Not that 380 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: long ago, A couple of days ago. I had a 381 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: great time. Was it over Memorial Day? It might have 382 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: been in her most of beach. I was watching the 383 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 1: gram and Kershaw go at it. Okay, Yeah, fantastic pitching matchup. 384 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: But when it's two guys i've never heard of, you know, No, 385 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: I mean when the playoffs start, that's fair. Yeah, I 386 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: don't necessarily remember what I was going to say before. 387 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh when I so to see the reasons ball. This 388 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: is why you don't go there. Well you you threw 389 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: me off my course. But I'm about to get back. 390 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm about to put the Thomas the Tank engine back 391 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: on the track. All I gotta do is shout at you. 392 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: And I just ruined your whole game. No, no, no, no, 393 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: I would if you were the quarterback. I just shout 394 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: at you a few times and you're just jacked up. Well, 395 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: the good thing I wasn't the quarterback and I was 396 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman and all I had to do is 397 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: make it one call and then that was all we 398 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: had to still up for debate. I haven't seen video yet. 399 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: Go ahead, I should bring that video. You could be 400 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: Rob Polinka next. You're gonna tell me Heath Ledge is 401 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: a guest on the show. I need to see Evans. 402 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: What I was going to say is that oftentimes when 403 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: you're with the player and there aren't cameras and you're 404 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: just sitting down, you're in the locker room, you're just 405 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: going back and forth and you're having a conversation, those 406 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: interviews are oftentimes more usable. They are better because you 407 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: get more quality stuff out of the guy because, for 408 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: whatever reason, a camera in somebody's face changes the way 409 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: that they respond. No doubt, like talking to to leave, 410 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: talking to Peters about football, right, I'd rather relay to 411 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: you what they said versus me sitting there with a 412 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: tape recorder. Yeah, because it's never going to come out 413 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: the right way, right, But they have wonderful insight into football. 414 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: Like he said, if you go to the Super Bowl 415 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: and let's just say, in the perfect world you become 416 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP, all the business stuff is going to 417 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: take care of itself exactly. Yeah, So why should I 418 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: worry about the next man what he got and negotiate 419 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: through the media about what I think I should get. 420 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. All that matters is winning. If you win, 421 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: it takes care of itself exactly. So then some of 422 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: the media asked McVeigh also Sean McVay, about Marcus Peters's contract, 423 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: what he needs to do to kind of show that 424 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: this is if he needs to show anything, rather to 425 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: say that, Okay, this is what we need from you 426 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: in order to extend you long term. So let's take 427 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: a listen to that. I think really pick up where 428 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: he left off. Lindsay, you know, I think we've said 429 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: this before. One of the things that you know, I 430 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: think really says as much about Marcus as anything as 431 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: the ability to overcome some some adversity. Early on, he 432 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: stayed the course, he took accountability, and I thought he 433 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: played his best ball towards the end of the year. 434 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you see a guy with all the ability. 435 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: I think our challenge as a coaching staff is continue 436 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: to suit our systems to our players skill sets, and 437 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: clearly this is an extremely productive player, great ball skills, 438 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: great instincts and awareness. And I think when you really 439 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: look at the makeup of our secondary, but our defense 440 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: as a whole, that'll enable us to continue to do 441 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: some things that fit them. And then that's the most 442 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: important thing. And our defensive coaches and our staff in 443 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: general has done a great job. And the way that 444 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: Marcus has you know, played so far and the way 445 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: he finished up, you know, we just want to see 446 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: him continue to pick up where he left off. Lindsay, 447 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: that's Sean McVeigh and Marcus Peters, and I think that 448 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: what we see there, yeah, is he he doesn't sound 449 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: like the same coach who was talking about true Maine 450 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: Johnson two years ago. Do you remember that situation, Well, 451 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: it was the situation where we need to see if 452 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: Trumaine fits. We have to do this, we have to 453 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: do that. And obviously one difference is that they've had 454 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters in the system for a year. Well but 455 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: excuse me. What I also thought was interesting there was 456 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: how he was talking about, Okay, we need our we 457 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: need to make sure our systems still fit our players. Yeah, 458 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: I mean, well, god, how do I say that? I 459 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: mean one guy, two different guys, two different set of circumstances, 460 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: one very different. Yeah, I mean I think it's accountability 461 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: and trust one guy. There was a question there, you 462 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: know what I mean. The other guy. It's just a 463 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: matter of let's match our system to his. You don't 464 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: have the same issues with with with Tremaine and Marcus Peters. 465 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: You have the same desires and goals, same body types. 466 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: M what Tremaine didn't give up this how Tremaine played 467 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: and how well he played in that system, Marcus Peters 468 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: should translate the same way because of their body types. Um, now, 469 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: it took a while to find the right mix. Once 470 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: you did. You saw it in the Super Bowl. Did 471 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: we even talk about Hogan? We talked about this right right? Yeah. 472 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean step for step was on him like a 473 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: cheap suits him and I think you'll see more of 474 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: that as long as you can get him to play 475 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: within the system, and your system has to meet his 476 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: skill set at the same time. So it's it's a marriage, 477 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: you know. It's a work in progress there. It's something 478 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: that Wade Phillips talked about a lot over the course 479 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: of last year as well, right I He basically was saying, 480 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: I need to do a better job to make sure 481 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: that Marcus Peters is in position to succeed. And I 482 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: haven't done a good enough job of that, and that's 483 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: my job as a coach. Right. Well, when you think 484 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: about Marcus Peters, I guess the first guy that comes 485 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: to mind is Mike Thomas. You know, Oh, I'm sorry, 486 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: you thought I thought the the Rams wide receiver. You're 487 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: talking about the Saints wid Stan. I mean in that 488 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: game and how that ended. Um, well, I think Mike 489 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: Thomas proved that no one could stick him one for 490 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: one right last season. So it is what it is. 491 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: But I would feel confident doing it again in the 492 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: right circumstance, putting Marcus Peters on Mike Thomas. I mean, 493 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: I think that's why he's here, why you have him here. So, um, 494 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: it didn't work out in certain situations. It did in 495 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: the biggest game that mattered, right now, you came up short, 496 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: but you see the ability, you see the talent level there. 497 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: So if you get it right, like Marcus Peters said, 498 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: and like Sean McVay said, if you get it right, 499 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: there the rest of it will take care of itself itself. 500 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: Business wise, well, I think we could also say that 501 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: it worked out well in the second biggest game of 502 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: the year, right between Marcus Peters, you also had a 503 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: key to lead. But in that in the NFC Championship game, 504 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: Thomas only had four receptions for thirty six yards. Yeah, 505 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: lots of respect there in that next game for Mike Thomas, 506 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yes, So thank god you 507 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: had another chance to face him again. So you you 508 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: you had the sting of the first beat and how 509 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: he beat you, and then you got to play him 510 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: again in the end championship game with tons of respect, 511 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yes, Yeah, I'm glad that 512 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: that NFC Championship game wasn't like the first matchup or 513 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: because the Rams probably would have lost, right, it wasn't 514 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: the first matchup. Yeah, you've seen him, yes, yes, yes, 515 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: But is there something that you think Marcus Peters does 516 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,959 Speaker 1: need to show to earn the contract extension? I mean, 517 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: because here's where the Rams are sort of with this 518 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: from my perception of it. If you're talking about guys 519 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: who might get extensions, who have contracts coming up over 520 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: the next offseason, a lot of times that happens for 521 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: the Rams in the July August months. We saw that 522 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: last year with Todd Gurley who got extended right before 523 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: training camp, Brandon Cooks mid July, Rob Havenstein toward the 524 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: end of August there, and then obviously Aaron Donald signed 525 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: his extension too. So is there something that you think 526 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: he needs to show either before during this offseason program 527 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: maybe during the season. Well, consistency, that's it. I mean, 528 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: that's the difference between you know him and the highest 529 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: paid corner you know, it's just consistency. He does everything. 530 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: He'll come up and hitch you. He's a gambler, he 531 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: can pick passes, he can take one back to the 532 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: house of need be. I mean, he's he's got everything 533 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: you need. And I think his consistency is tied with health. 534 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: So part of that's just luck. But if he stays 535 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: healthy and stays out of the trash, doesn't get his 536 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: feet caught up, and you don't have those unfortunate mishaps, 537 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: I think you'll see that guy it's already there. Yes, No, 538 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: I would agree with you. But if you think about 539 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: the Rams cornerback position in the long run, both to 540 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: Leib and Peters contracts are up at the end of 541 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen season. That's obviously part of why the 542 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: Rams drafted David Long, because you get him then in 543 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: the system for a year. So I think realistically, only 544 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: one of those guys of to leave and Peters is 545 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: going to be back in twenty twenty. I mean, and 546 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: that's fair. Peters is the younger one. Yeah, that's fair. 547 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: So we will see how that all turns out. But 548 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: based on the way the Rams have talked in the 549 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: fact that you make the trade in the first place 550 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: to get a guy you can not only help you 551 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: in these two years, but down the road, right because 552 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: he is a proven commodity in the NFL. No, No, 553 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: we'll see how this turns. I just you know, back 554 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: way back when, or not too long ago. I mean, 555 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: I remember people always had a target on the back 556 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: of Ronde Barber. Yeah, this is it. He's done. He's old, 557 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: long in the tooth, and he plays out of his mind. Okay, 558 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: we'll give him another year. This is gonna be it. 559 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't see him around. This is he's getting really old. 560 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: And then he plays out of his mind again. Pretty 561 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: soon you stop talking that way. He's gonna be here 562 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: as long as he wants, like fits, How many times 563 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: do we try to retire Larry Fitzgerald? Why won't he 564 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: just done right? Why won't he go away? Look at 565 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: the film? I know exactly. Yeah, I mean, every time 566 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna keep he's gonna be killing the Rams for 567 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: the next five years. Every time I see Larry right, 568 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: we have this joke. I walked up to him and say, 569 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: is this it? And he looks at me and goes, 570 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: why is there something wrong? Right? So, I mean, who 571 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: knows about to leave? I mean, I think to leib 572 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: is the same as Marcus Peters. If you stay consistent, 573 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: stay healthy. I still think he's a great corner. So 574 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: who knows how this goes. You're right, But beyond looking 575 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: beyond this season is that's not player mentality exactly. They're 576 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: looking for this year right now, and that's the way 577 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: it should be. And that's where it goes back to 578 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: what Marcus Peters was saying initially, right that he is 579 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: not focused on that. What he wants to do is 580 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl and then those things will 581 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: take care of themselves. So what I've seen at OTAs 582 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: both of those guys actually have been quite productive. Yeah, 583 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: and I think part of it too is Eric Weddle 584 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: and his communication in the back end that can't do 585 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: anything but helpful to this. No, No, now, smart dude. 586 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean look with these corners, you know, to Leib 587 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: and Peters, I mean they challenge themselves and they play 588 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: it correct most of the time. Now, if they start 589 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 1: to gamble, you're gonna know whin you know, especially if 590 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: you're Eric Waddle, You're gonna This is what I love 591 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: about him. It's not just he's dialed in with Wade 592 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: Phillips and he's dialed in with the offense. He's also 593 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: dialed in with the guys he's playing with. I know 594 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: when this guy likes to take a gamble. Yeah, you 595 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I know when Wade call this, 596 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: calls this, I got that. But I know he's gonna 597 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: try to do something on this side when he sees this. 598 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: So I'll play over here. It looks like magic. No, 599 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: it's just him. Sure, Yeah, I mean that's that's smart. 600 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: I heard this. Michael Jordan had a rule and we 601 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: brought it to football. It's ky f p k R. No, No, 602 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: you're a blanking personnel. Oh yeah, I'm serious. Know who 603 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: you're out there with and how they like to play. 604 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: That's also a part of being a special defense or 605 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: a leader on defense. Yes, yeah, yes. And it's interesting 606 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: because he has kind of been a bit of a 607 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: national media darling over the course of the last couple 608 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: of weeks. I mean, we saw the Sports Illustrated video 609 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: with Andy Bnouan. Then Dan Pompey actually just did a 610 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: really good story in The Athletic. If you guys have 611 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: that subscription, you should definitely go check that out. And basically, 612 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: right now, Eric what is in a place where he 613 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: knows that this is probably his last stop. Right, it's 614 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: great that he is back in southern California. What he 615 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: told Dan POMPEII was basically it was going to be 616 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: the Rams or nothing, because I want to be closer 617 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: to my family. But the other aspect of it right 618 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: now is that when he is in Thousand Oaks during 619 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: the week, it's basically by himself, right his family is 620 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: stoled down in San Diego, and right he's basically he's 621 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: basically he's got nothing to do but football, and it's 622 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: it's it's helping in that you know, you can watch film. 623 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: You can spend time with younger guys. You can do 624 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: whatever you want to do. Yeah, in order to help 625 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: get this football team better, go Spartan. I mean, you know, 626 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: you show up to training camp with a toothbrush and 627 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: that's it. I can see him doing that. Yeah, I'm 628 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: here for football. He's that old school and you know 629 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: who else probably does that to this day. I mean 630 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: he can't because he's got like assistance is Sean McVeigh. 631 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: It's all about ball, nothing else, no distractions. You know, 632 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: no one else has this phone number. When I shut 633 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: this phone off, no one can get to me. It's 634 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: all about football. Funny, I got labeled a racist talking 635 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: about this very same thing. What's the difference like with 636 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: Wettal on the football team? I said, maybe your sound 637 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: bites got better out of your safety position, and the 638 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: guy was like, what is that supposed to mean? I'm like, well, 639 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: the guy is pretty good at speaking, that's all, you 640 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But as far as did you upgrade, no, 641 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: I think it's about even. They're both great safeties, you know, 642 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: so the Rams didn't lose a thing. That's just besides 643 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: the point. Sure, yeah, but I mean being out here 644 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: being away and like you said, it was la or bust. Well, 645 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: he's here now, so he's got everything he wants to 646 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: be great. You're expecting that out of him. Yes, And 647 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: the other thing I thought was great out of that 648 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: athletics story was he was saying, look, I am here 649 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: to help anybody any way I can. So the Rams 650 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: draft Taylor Rap Safety in the second round, and what 651 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: he Wettell said was, I want to help Taylor Rap. 652 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: I want to make him better. I know that he's 653 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: trying to come from my job, but I'm not going 654 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: to let him do that because i know I'm still 655 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: good too. Poor Rap? Why poor Rap? Because like maybe 656 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: what he needs, like I told you, is a foot 657 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 1: in his ass. You know what I'm saying. But I mean, 658 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm here to help, right, I'm not here to be friends. 659 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm here to help. He knows the score. You know, 660 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: Eric Muddle, when he came in, he was facing the 661 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: same situation. At some point, I'm going to be taking 662 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: your job in your job. Yeah, in three years, I'm 663 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: going to be here and these two guys aren't. And 664 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: they're firmly established guys on this team and in this league. 665 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: That's a rough situation to be in. It's tough. It's 666 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: not for the faint at heart. Now, it could be 667 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: he needs a shoulder to cry on, or a pat 668 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: on the back or a foot in the ass. He's 669 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: here to help this guy get better, and he's also 670 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: here to compete for a job. Right, But it's it is, 671 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: it's it's tough, man. I mean, look, if you draft 672 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: the left tackle early and you say I'm gonna plant 673 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: you behind Andrew Whitworth, you think Wit is going to 674 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: be nice to that gay? I think will be respectful. Well, 675 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: I think what's going to help this guy get ready? 676 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: But it ain't gonna be pretty. I'm dead serious. I mean, look, 677 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: he's they're competing for jobs for reps. This is what 678 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: we do. I'm gonna help you get better and it 679 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: may not be the way you want it. Interesting. Yeah, hey, hey, Wit, 680 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: how did I do today? Ah? You sucked? Huh? Yeah? 681 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean you used to people patting you on the 682 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: back twenty four seven. Well that's not what you need 683 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 1: if you want to get better. Sure makes sense, Yes, no, absolutely. 684 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: It goes back to the coaching aspect of things, right, 685 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: And but I think the way that Sean mcvah has 686 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: talked about Eric Weddle is sort of in the same 687 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: way that you hear him talk about and Andrew Whitworth. 688 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: Somebody who knows the defense really well, who can integrate 689 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: himself into the culture very well, be a leader. Right, 690 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: So these are these are the things that I think 691 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: I see from that. Oh yeah, someone who's not impressed 692 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: by you. That's that's important when you get into the league. Right, Yeah, 693 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm great, I'm I was just drafted. I'm the Rams 694 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: first pick. Yeah, but you haven't done crap out here yet. Sure, yeah, 695 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: so get with me when you do it. For as 696 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: long as I've been doing it. Maybe I'll give you 697 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: some prose. But as of right now, take my bag, rookie. Right. 698 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: What I also think is interesting about Whattle is he's 699 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: somebody that can actually be the signal caller on defense. 700 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: That's something that he did do in Baltimore. And Corey 701 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: Littleton did a good job of it last year, but 702 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: in certain packages, certain different things, Corey Lilton may or 703 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: may not be on the field. Right, So maybe that 704 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: you do want somebody like an Eric Weddle to do that. 705 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought little is a guy that 706 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: never leaves the field. Maybe, yeah, we on this show, 707 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: I don't know, episode whatever it was, but he had 708 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: the most snaps of anybody in a Ram's uniform. I 709 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: don't I don't anticipate that changing at all. I don't 710 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: even suspect to changing much. No. Yeah, but I mean 711 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: in key situations absolutely. But you know, if they want 712 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: to make that switch, then so be it. But having 713 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: another guy that's capable of calling the defense great, it 714 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: can't hurt, not at all. Only it can't hurt. But 715 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: it's But I mean, just like with quarterbacks, you know, 716 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: there are two guys that speak on the huddle. One's 717 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: the center and one's the quarterback, and that's it. So 718 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: on defense, if you're used to one guy speaking and 719 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: then now you've got to get used to another guy speaking. 720 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: You know, No, it makes a difference, that does That's 721 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: what I mean. So it does one other guy on defense. 722 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: You brought this up when we were texting back and forth, 723 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: Thante Fowler. Yeah, so what do you think that he 724 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: has to show coming up here in the rest of 725 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: the off season program in the season, Well, um, that 726 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: you're worth the money. I guess you know you're being 727 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: paid some dough bro that's elite money. You want to 728 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: see elite production. End of story, right, you know what 729 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean? Yes, yeah, when you start getting into the 730 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: teens teens of millions, especially at that spot that's reserved 731 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: for guys that are knocking on the door of twenty 732 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: sacks every year, that are the focal point of the 733 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: defense every year. Or you you're just the lucky dog 734 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: that you came up at the right time. You've got 735 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: to prove it again. So I want to see the 736 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: guy that we thought he was going to be coming 737 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: out of Florida. I agree with you. I think that 738 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: this one year deal is basically what you just said. 739 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: It's a prove it kind of situation, right, because he 740 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: probably could have gone into free agency and received some 741 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: lucrative offers, but he didn't. He elected to stay in 742 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, a place where he's started to get comfortable. 743 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: And now he's been able to be a part of 744 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,479 Speaker 1: an offseason program. He'll be a part of training camp 745 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: and I think that should only help him and that 746 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: developed that chemistry with Aaron Donald, Michael Brocker's you know, 747 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: claim Matthews is there. Now this this defensive front should 748 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: be quite good, no doubt. It's it's he needs to 749 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: represent danger off the edge. Period. Yeah. You know when 750 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: you're when you were facing d Ford, that's an issue. 751 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: When you're facing Ingram for the Chargers and Bosa, that's 752 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: that's danger off the edge. You have to concern yourself 753 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: with that offensively. If not, it could be a painful lesson. 754 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: That's the guy he needs to be, and not every 755 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: other week, not every other series. I'm talking down, end down, out. Yeah, 756 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: you just like Aaron does. When Aaron Donald takes over, drives, 757 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: takes over series, takes over the fricking game. I'm about 758 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: to change it right now. Well, you're in that elite company, 759 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: so says your paycheck. That guy's got to be there 760 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: every single play. Yeah, and I think we did start 761 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: to see that in the postseason. Yeah, some great big 762 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 1: boom plays. Yes, yeah, run end pass, yes, yeah, every 763 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: single time out before we When you talk about New Orleans, right, 764 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: who the first three guys you talk about, Kimara, Drew Brees, 765 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: Cam Jordan, Michael Thomas. I remember when you didn't talk 766 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: about Cam Jordan, right, Yeah, now you have to because 767 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: he's forced you to talk about him every single game 768 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: that's where Fowler has to be. Yes, yeah, and so 769 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: I think he can get there. So he used too 770 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,720 Speaker 1: to be in attendance for OTAs on Wednesday and Thursday 771 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: this week, so we will get a kid chance to 772 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: see him today. Get here and bring donuts and orange 773 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: juice and take your guys out for dinner and drinks. 774 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: Mcvas that he missed his flight. Okay, take your guys out. Absolutely, 775 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 1: that's a whole other round. As a matter of fact, 776 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 1: you don't even have to show up. Leave the credit card, 777 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: mister new money. Absolutely ever do that. Sometimes I do that. 778 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: I'll be like happy and I just want to keep dancing, 779 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: and I'll be like her friend, go buy us drinks. Absolutely, 780 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: like take the cash like I know, it's it's money. 781 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: I was. I probably shouldn't do that. I was the 782 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: most fortunate guy in the world in my seven years 783 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: playing with the Rams, right because at Orlando, Pace was 784 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: the first pick in the draft. Offensive linement, Oh you're 785 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: taking us all out, Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, you 786 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 1: don't even have to be there. And then Grant Wistram 787 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: same thing. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. We want money, absolutely, 788 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: we want money and stay and I'm gonna order a 789 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: lobster and I'm not gonna eat it right in front 790 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 1: of you. Yes, oh yeah, oh that's perfect, big time, 791 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: and that's probably the way it should be. I do 792 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: want to get to this as well, the latest on 793 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. So yeah, we have Now, there was a 794 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 1: report that came out over the weekend from Jay Glazer. 795 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: I think he was answering questions in his mailbag for 796 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: The Athletic and what he said was that there is 797 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: real concern about Todd Gurley's knee. Now this is not 798 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: necessarily new, but because it comes up again, it becomes 799 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: more news. So I think that is their concern. Yes, probably, 800 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's an unfair thing to say, 801 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: but that's why the Rams put Todd Gurley on a 802 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: pretty specific plan for this off season. So he's been around, 803 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: he's been in the building. But Sean McVay addressed this yesterday, 804 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: so he probably will do a better job of explaining 805 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: it than I would. So let's just listen to him. 806 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: We've we've got him on a great plan and usually 807 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: he's around right around this time doing some different things 808 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: that we had talked about a while back, and you know, 809 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: we've been really pleased with Todd. You know, he's done 810 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: some different things which Trevelle Gains and some of those trainers, 811 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: but then he's also been here consistently pretty much every 812 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 1: single day of the weeks and he's been an active participant, 813 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, following the program that we've implemented with him. 814 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: And we're very pleased with where Todd's at right now. 815 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: Is he doing anything on the field in terms of 816 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: team drills or he hasn't right now. Gary, You know, 817 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: that was what we felt like was best you know 818 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 1: for Todd, when Todd and I sat down and it 819 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: was it's been really good so far and we feel 820 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: good about that. That's a departure from years past. He 821 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: has a team stuff. Yeah, and that was really that 822 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: was really what we felt like when we sat down 823 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the year and developing a plan 824 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: that's you know, best suited for Todd getting ready for 825 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, the Carolina Panthers, but then also taken into consideration, 826 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, being ready to go when training camp rolls around. 827 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: And I think some of that also had to do 828 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: with us just playing a lot longer than we had 829 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: in previous years. Omar so really sitting down with Reggie 830 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: sitting down and most importantly with Todd and talking through 831 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: those things. You know, that was a plan that we've 832 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: kind of laid out a while back, and that's what's 833 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: been followed so far. What do you think of that 834 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: that when Sean mcvabe says that, well, number one, you 835 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: can't get tired answer to that question, it's big news. Yeah, 836 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: because there's going to be frustration. Why does this keep 837 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: coming up? I think this has to be the new 838 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: norm for everyone involved with Todd. That's just where you are. 839 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 1: The guy was just looking up thinking about it. Navarro 840 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: Bowman in San Francisco. Oh yeah, Acl mcl blew out 841 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: everything right, missed an entire year of football and then 842 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: came back and made the Pro Bowl. Now I remember 843 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: the stories about how long it takes him to get 844 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: ready just for a practice, like six seven hours just 845 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: to be ready to practice. Well, that's his new norm, 846 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: you know. So I think that's where you are with Todd. 847 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to really maintain him and he's gonna 848 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: have to maintain his knee. But the whole point is 849 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: just get to the field on Sunday, Monday, Thursday, whenever 850 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 1: you're planning and if you don't see him in OTAs, 851 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: it can't be a story anymore. That's just the way 852 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: it is from now on, right well, and that's the 853 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: way it gets to be. With a lot of veteran players. 854 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: You don't really hear about Todd Brady being at OTA's 855 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 1: not to you because he's not so a little bit different. 856 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: It is a little bit different, yes, but that's we 857 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: used to hear the same sort of stories about. Yeah, 858 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: I answered it this way with Todd. If Todd was 859 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: physically able to do everything, he would Now he just 860 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: can't right now, That's just the way it is. But 861 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: when that knee is right, he's one of the best. Period, 862 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: When he's got swelling and inflammation and pain, there's going 863 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: to be issues. Yeah, yeah, I think that that's a 864 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: fair assessment. Yeah, I do. But I also think that 865 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: because the RAMS have him on a pretty clear maintenance plan. 866 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: There is a plan to have him be at his 867 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: best four week one, right, and that's when it matters 868 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 1: the most. And it's not just week one, but it's 869 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs as well, Week one, in two week seventeen 870 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: and then beyond. So that's why the RAMS have him 871 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: on the plan that they have him on right now. Now, 872 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 1: what specifically is that plan, what is specifically going on 873 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: with the knee, We don't know, right, But I also 874 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 1: have a pretty good idea. Okay, yeah, but I think 875 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: to say that Todd Gurley will never be the same 876 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: or something like that, I don't think we know that. Well, 877 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: some of that's true. He's I mean, he's never going 878 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: to be the guy that you saw, you know. I 879 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: mean you might not be able to give it to 880 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 1: him as many times. That's just the way it is 881 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: in the league, bro, especially at that position, right Yeah, 882 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: And I think that's why you're going to have to 883 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: develop other plans of attack. But the one thing that 884 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,439 Speaker 1: you don't want to have, and I don't think Sean 885 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: McVay is about this at all, either or less need either. 886 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: You can't be protecting one guy just to keep him healthy. 887 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: Your stated goal can't be keep Todd Gurley fresh for December. 888 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: Your stated goal is to win every game you're in, absolutely, 889 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's up to Todd 890 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: Gurley as an athlete to answer the bell as many 891 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: times as possible. Now, when you can't, you gotta have 892 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: somebody else's ready, right, and that's what I think the 893 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: Rams have set up themselves to do with by bringing 894 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: back Malcolm Brown for two years, by drafting Darryl Henderson, Right, 895 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: Malcolm's got to stay healthy exactly. Yeah. So these are 896 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 1: these are all guys that you can plug in and play, 897 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 1: and I think in the rams perfect world you get 898 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 1: to play all three of them and some capacity probably, 899 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: But you know how it goes when you get into 900 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: September or Sundays in September, the starter and the backup. Yeah, yeah, 901 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: I mean if you're if if you've got there are 902 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: not many teams that will go with the stable of 903 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: three backs. Yeah. What do they used to say, if 904 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: you've got three backs, you don't have one, you know 905 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: what I mean? Well, Seattle kind of did that and 906 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: looked out and then they found their one, and that 907 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: one guy's going to take a majority of the carriers. Yeah, 908 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: that's how it goes, right right, right. So as for 909 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: right now, I think that we can say, look, Todd 910 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: Gurley is still the bell cow back until we say, 911 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: until we get proven otherwise. Yeah. But the one thing 912 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: that I saw good is your last one hundred yard game, right, Yes, 913 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: that's true. But the only I saw and Colin Cowhard 914 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: said this on his radio show the other day. We're 915 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: quoting cowherd well, because I'm not the kind of person 916 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: that wants to talk about something without actually mentioning the name. 917 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 1: I'll mention his name. But he said, I knew since 918 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: late October that something was wrong with Todd Gurley. I 919 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, what the hell are you 920 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: talking about? Man, you knew since late October? You mean 921 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,439 Speaker 1: the late October game against the Green Bay Packers where 922 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley had twenty five carries for one hundred and 923 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 1: fourteen yards and caught six passes for eighty one yards. 924 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: And then you know, the next couple of weeks, you'd 925 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 1: look at what he did against Seattle at home sixteen 926 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 1: carries for one hundred and twenty yards. Wait, let me 927 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: stop you there, Deanroy didn't happen until December. Two things. 928 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,439 Speaker 1: You're in Los Angeles, you've been downtown and you'll drive 929 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: by or stop at a red light and roll down 930 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: your window and you'll hear, let's just say, a person 931 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 1: that's at a bus stop and that's where he lives, 932 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 1: outing at the moon. Right, you don't know what the 933 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: hell he's talking about but you know he really means it. Yeah, 934 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: you roll up your window and you keep moving. Right. 935 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,399 Speaker 1: That's how I feel about certain sports talk radio guys. 936 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: They're just shouting at the moon. Really. Yes, there's no 937 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: way he can know or have an idea about what 938 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: he just said. He's just saying it for affect, right. 939 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: And but then that, But when you say something like that, 940 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: it's snowballs, right. Isn't the thing that the A lie 941 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: gets halfway around the world before truth has the chance 942 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: to get its pants on. Wow, I've never heard that. 943 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 1: You've never heard the one? That's pretty good, I've never 944 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: I like that one? Say that again? A lie gets 945 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 1: halfway around the world before the truth has a chance 946 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: to get his pants on. Wow, I don't know who 947 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: said that. Let me look that up. Yeah, where did 948 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: you first hear that? Who told you that? And what happened? 949 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: Did you get caught in a lie? No? So it's 950 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 1: once in Churchill. I thought it was. Yeah, a lie 951 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: gets halfway around the world before the truth has chance 952 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 1: pants Okay, it makes sense. Okay, but the the part 953 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,959 Speaker 1: two things being out there. You're in the press box. 954 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 1: No matter how Todd was doing that day, you could 955 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: tell there was something going on what which day, No 956 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 1: matter what type of day Todd had, even if he's 957 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: the the FedEx Ground Player Winner Award or the week 958 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: whatever that award is, you could tell something might be 959 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: going on even if he's performing great. Not in October. Okay, 960 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: see and so not. Let maybe it was different for 961 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: you because you're on the field, but not to me, 962 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: not in October. I mean when the injury happened and 963 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: he had the knee inflammation thing going on against the 964 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles in December, right that after that, I agree, Okay, 965 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: I'll tell you how more then I did. It's not 966 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: something i'll tell you how. I don't want to say 967 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: how keen my eye is. But this is the stuff 968 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: I watch. Okay, Well, and this is fair because you 969 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: also played right and I didn't. So when you're making 970 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 1: guys myth miss going both directions with the ball in 971 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: either hand, you're feeling great if you're only making guys 972 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: miss to your right and you're getting tackled to your left. Right, yeah, 973 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: when a week ago you were making both guys miss. Okay, 974 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: something's going on. Okay, you know what I mean. So, 975 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: no matter how he does or how a guy performs 976 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: that day. Colin could be on the something. You could 977 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: probably tell something was bothering him, but not to the 978 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: point where it made him ineffective. Maybe, Yeah, that's so 979 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: I have to give him props on one side. The 980 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,479 Speaker 1: other side, you're just the guy at the bus stop 981 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: yelling okay, yeah, all right, well then that's fair. One 982 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: last thing I do want to get to you before 983 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: we get out of here, and he probably should have 984 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 1: done this last week, but Chris Long announced his retirement. 985 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: It's a guy that both of us have worked with, 986 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 1: both of us have spent a good amount of time 987 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: around him. What first, what is your favorite Chris Long story? Well, 988 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: the favorite is Okay, he spent years here in a 989 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 1: Ram's uniform and it was just a tough go for him. Right, Yes, 990 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: he leaves and he wins two super Bowls inside of 991 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: two years. Yep, He's got more wins or had more 992 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: wins in that two years than his entire care here. 993 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 1: So I was happy for that, you know, I mean 994 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: there because when you look at a bad era, right, yes, 995 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: you make it the way they talk about it, it 996 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: seems like everybody was just bad, and that's not the 997 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: way it was agreed. You're two or three, maybe four 998 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: guys away from being pretty good, but these what you 999 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: do have your assets. They're dynamite players. Chris is in 1000 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: that category. So I was happy for him that he 1001 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: actually got a chance to compete for a postseason spot, 1002 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 1: and then once you got into the postseason, compete for 1003 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring, and then when the damn thing. 1004 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: No doubt he deserves it. For a lot of guys 1005 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: that are in that category, I'm happy that he got 1006 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 1: to be one of them. Yeah, me too. I mean 1007 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: when thinking about the time where I first started this job, 1008 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 1: so twenty fourteen, I'm a CUB reporter basically fresh out 1009 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: of college, and there were people in that locker room 1010 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: that were very good to me. You didn't have to 1011 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: be as nice to me as they were and helped 1012 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: me along, helped me basically understand what it was that 1013 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: I was doing. Chris Long was certainly one of those guys. 1014 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: James Laurenitis was another. Yeah, and I will always be excuse, 1015 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: I'll always be grateful to the knowledge and wisdom that 1016 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: they imparted into me. Basically from it was little things too, 1017 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 1: just observing them in the locker room, observing how they 1018 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: would deal with different reporters and things like that. Chris 1019 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,280 Speaker 1: Long was certainly a part of that. I would appreciate 1020 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,839 Speaker 1: it absolutely. And we like we talk about guys when 1021 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: if you put a tape recorder in front of him, 1022 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: they're different. Well, Chris is no different. Yeah. You know, 1023 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: there's a Chris that's off air, and there's a Christ 1024 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: on air. Christ This on air is as good as 1025 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: anybody out there. The Christ This off air is hilarious 1026 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 1: and funny and down to earth, you know what I mean. Yes, 1027 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: And I'm glad he's bringing that guy to air. Yes. Yeah, 1028 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: he's not going to lie about who he is, you 1029 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Well, one of the things that 1030 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: I most respect about him is that he is a 1031 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: guy who really understands his privilege. Yeah, and he understands 1032 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: his platform and he knows how to take advantage of 1033 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: it in a positive way. Right. Um, that's so funny 1034 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 1: with the privilege thing. Um, to me, it's okay, you 1035 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 1: can you can catch this privilege and I know where 1036 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 1: you're going. I think he's just shown more courage than 1037 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 1: the next guy. Maybe it's because he grew up rich. 1038 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you know, so, what if I lose endorsements, I'm 1039 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,919 Speaker 1: not going to lose my house, you know what I mean? Right? Yeah? 1040 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: So I mean having that guy that's not afraid to 1041 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: speak the truth, I think is great. If you want 1042 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: to call it privilege, so be it. I just I 1043 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: love him. Guys are courageous that you know, um, they'll 1044 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: call things out or say things that players are afraid 1045 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: to say. You know what I mean, Well, it's something 1046 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 1: and there are things that he now can say because 1047 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: he is not an active player. And he has even 1048 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: acknowledged that fact over the last couple of weeks. He 1049 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: said it, He said it a ton. It's just it 1050 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,479 Speaker 1: never got picked up. You know. You know the first 1051 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 1: time I met Can I go all the way back 1052 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: to this? You know I'm a Howe Long fan, Yes, 1053 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: absolutely huge Howie Long fan. Let's go to the point 1054 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: where I had to fight people over how much I 1055 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: liked how He Long. Okay, let me tell you why 1056 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: you dub in my dorm room nothing but Raiders stuff 1057 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: and how He Long stuff. Right yeah? And I had 1058 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: this big, six foot like life size poster of Howie Long. Okay, 1059 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: Now to me, it was just Howie Yeah, Okay. To 1060 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 1: other people, walking in the room. There's a six foot 1061 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: dude and tight jeans and a leather jacket. Okay, And 1062 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 1: it never occurred to me. I never looked at it 1063 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: that way. To me, it's just freaking Howie Long the 1064 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: best three technique I've ever seen. I want that rip. 1065 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,320 Speaker 1: That's why I wear seventy five right, yes, okay, And 1066 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: they were like, no, this looks weird. So I'm a 1067 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: Howie disciple. And then I couldn't wait to meet Chris 1068 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: Long when the Rams drafted him, and he couldn't have 1069 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: been nicer. He was everything I thought he would be 1070 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 1: and more. And then once we got away from the 1071 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: practice field and I just happened to be there, I 1072 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: liked him even better because he was just he was 1073 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: one of us. Yeah you know what I mean, Yes, 1074 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 1: even more so, you know, yes, yeah, really cool guy. 1075 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: I'll just say that way. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm glad 1076 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 1: that he's unafraid to let people know exactly what is 1077 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: about and who he is, and he's not just trying 1078 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: to play a role to get a job. Definitely not. 1079 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: And the other thing that he has done that I 1080 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 1: think is really awesome is his Waterboys Foundation, Yeah, which 1081 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 1: builds wells clean excuse me, clean water wells over in Africa. 1082 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: So if you're interested in donating to that learning more 1083 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: about that, go to waterboys dot org for here. Do 1084 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 1: you remember the one time I thought him and William 1085 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: Hayson went completely nuts is when they posed as homeless people. 1086 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what are you doing? Really? I mean they 1087 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: were really out there they were and doing it. Yeah, 1088 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 1: like there were security there, but not close enough to 1089 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: where if something happened, you know, right, But they really 1090 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: decided to do that. And it's not just a stunt. 1091 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 1: I mean they were doing it for the people, you know, 1092 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 1: to understand what homelessness felt like, you know, so you 1093 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: got to respect guys like that, Yes, exactly. And again 1094 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: I think that goes back to understanding your privilege in 1095 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: your platform and doing whatever you can to try to 1096 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: elevate others, to try to help others. That was that 1097 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: was exactly what they were trying to do with their 1098 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 1: homelessness project. You know, whatever side of the Fencher on 1099 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: with this marijuana thing, Um, it's out there, you know, 1100 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: Um players smoke, we know this. Are we naive? I 1101 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: don't think we're that naive? Okay? Um, I don't know 1102 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 1: it's the right thing and the wrong thing as lifting 1103 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: the band. But I think it's a it's nice to 1104 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: have a healthy dialogue. Let's not pretend anymore, and let's 1105 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: really talk about it. Absolutely, yeah, no, no doubt about it. 1106 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 1: Any other parting shots. Uh God, let me see, um 1107 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: going over practice stuff from yesterday. You know Jared Goffi 1108 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,800 Speaker 1: is slinging it. He is. Yeah, Um, go back a 1109 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: couple of years when McVeigh first got here, and remember 1110 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: that training camp and remember how this started. I remember thinking, 1111 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,439 Speaker 1: especially you, thinking, oh the only one I know you were, Yeah, 1112 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: but I wasn't the only one. And we're like, oh boy, 1113 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,919 Speaker 1: okay because we weren't sure. Remember, we had no idea 1114 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: this could still be a bust. But to watch him 1115 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: grow and to see where he is now, Um, he's 1116 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: a much better practice player just from my eyes. Yes, 1117 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,720 Speaker 1: actually I absolutely agree with that, because there are throws 1118 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: that he makes now that he was certainly not consistently 1119 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: making back in spring of twenty seventeen. That's growth. So 1120 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 1: and this is funny. I'll bring up Ben Roethlisberger again. 1121 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 1: And I heard one of their backup quarterbacks was saying, 1122 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: it's an honor to compete with mister Roethlisberger. No, boy, 1123 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: so everyone still calls Jared Jared. At some point you're 1124 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 1: going to be mister Goff. True, and I think a 1125 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: part of it is becoming a better practice player. So 1126 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: to see that firsthand, I think is awesome. Yes. Yeah. 1127 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: My parting shot is this. Sean McVay was interviewed on 1128 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 1: Barstool Sports Pardon My Take podcast last week and they 1129 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 1: basically asked him, well, how did you get over the 1130 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,359 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? And he replied a lot of drinking. Damn right, 1131 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,800 Speaker 1: see bring up the Chryslaan conversation, same thing, right, what 1132 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 1: have you said with a big, fatty Well that might 1133 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: have been a probably better than he didn't. Everybody, thanks 1134 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: so much for listening to this edition of Between the Horns. 1135 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: For all of your content from OTAs, we should to 1136 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: keep the lock on the rams dot com Rabbit