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Speaker 3: It's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 1: So we're back with Chaplain Rich Stoglin. He's going to

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Speaker 1: give us a brief history in a minute or two

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Speaker 1: So Chaplain lead us away.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: The Republican Party of Texas was created in eighteen sixty seven,

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Speaker 6: fourth through sixth July in Houston, Texas by one hundred

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Speaker 6: If you look at our party, for example, the person

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Speaker 3: He was a Texas Senator.

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Speaker 6: The first sheriff in the United elected sheriff in States

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Speaker 6: He signed in nineteen sixty five, voting right sick correct,

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Speaker 6: So when you start looking at this and the Freedman Bureau,

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Speaker 6: So when you start looking at this, the first civil

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Speaker 3: That was the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 3: This is not made up.

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Speaker 6: I have a doctorate, I've graduated from the Naval War College,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to do for me. And I'm

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Speaker 6: And by the way, I spent three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: So I don't know where all this is coming from,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know where it's coming from. Hey, hey, chaplain,

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Speaker 1: And the Republican Party will still support that premise, not enough,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Chaplin.

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Speaker 3: And I want to.

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Speaker 6: Tell you something. This guy right here, this is one

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Speaker 3: He's been waiting since nineteen sixty seven. He was wounded

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Speaker 6: I'm proud to be an American and proud to be

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Speaker 3: That's who we all, man, that's what we do a man.

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Speaker 1: Pritchett, all right, love you, Je, thanks for being on chaplain.

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Speaker 1: We're going to pivot to another great Texan representative, Harrison.

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Speaker 1: He's waiting. I think he's been on over the last

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Speaker 1: Brat here, great to have you on. Can you give

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I've been on national news almost NonStop for the last

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Speaker 8: because the national media is missing it. It's everyone wants

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Speaker 8: that's interesting, it's news. But the real story isn't that

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Speaker 8: This quorm break goes on five. It started five days ago.

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Speaker 8: And I'll tell you what I mean by that. The Democrats,

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Speaker 8: the korum and force the Democrats to stay, what did

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Speaker 8: so absolulutely, the real story is that this is a

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Speaker 8: If the great State of Texas at state I love

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Speaker 8: for the people who sent us here, this korn break

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bran, thank you. Now, I misspoke. God, the speaker

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Speaker 1: All right back in the war room, Dave Bratt sitting

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Speaker 12: Well, Dave, speaking of theology, we are entering into an

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Speaker 1: fading down to about that number two. So it's kind

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Speaker 1: of a correlation between losing a grounded worldview and mental

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Speaker 1: health issues. And then we've all just been through torture

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Speaker 1: with COVID, right, and it took years, but at least

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Speaker 1: some of the scientific evidence started coming in about the

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Speaker 1: abuses of science, and that is there any anything coming

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Speaker 1: through yet on the abuse of just the preliminary stages

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Speaker 1: of this AI, just on the scientific level before we

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Speaker 1: get into the moral level.

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Speaker 12: I'm not aware of the statistics on how many people,

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Speaker 12: for instance, use chat bots as therapists or confidants. They

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Speaker 12: may exist, but most of what we see is anecdotal.

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Speaker 12: A lot of people I know use these things for

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Speaker 12: that purpose. A lot of people I know know people

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Speaker 12: who use chatbots for that purpose to confide their deepest secrets,

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Speaker 12: to get advice on some of the most critical issues

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Speaker 12: in their lives. And that connection, that emotional connection, that

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Speaker 12: sense of trust and dependency. The more people have it,

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Speaker 12: the more controlled these tech companies will have over their

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Speaker 12: way of thinking. It's a click above Google, to say

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Speaker 12: the least, we're talking about a semi natural conversation, and

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Speaker 12: if the expectation for a real natural conversation, a deep

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Speaker 12: communication between one human, and if that expectation is degraded,

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Speaker 12: then you don't really even need that sophisticated of a

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Speaker 12: technology to begin to replace it. And in COVID from

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Speaker 12: twenty twenty forward, what we saw was mass isolation, mass distrust,

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Speaker 12: mask screen dependency, everything from work from home to homeschooling

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Speaker 12: and e learning. The COVID really did, as Klaus Schwab

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Speaker 12: said in his Great Reset, provided a narrow window of

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Speaker 12: opportunity to push digital platforms and digital infrastructure onto the

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Speaker 12: population that would have never been accepted before. Fortunately, many people,

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Speaker 12: hopefully most people are suspicious of this and don't accept it,

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Speaker 12: will not accept it. But that's the big question, how

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Speaker 12: many people will? Because once you have a critical mass,

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Speaker 12: as we saw in twenty twenty moving forward, once you

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Speaker 12: have a critical mass of people who are on board

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Speaker 12: with some zeitgeist or another, then even if you don't

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Speaker 12: partake in it, even if you don't support it, it's

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Speaker 12: going to smash through your living room wall like the

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Speaker 12: kool Aid man and demand that you drink the kool

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Speaker 12: aid too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I agree with you, And I just believe as

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Speaker 1: a Christian that it violates you know, I could go

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Speaker 1: over about ten thousand postulates of God's natural law and

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Speaker 1: common grace and whatever, and I just think that it's

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Speaker 1: got to result eventually in some empirical evidence showing mental

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Speaker 1: health catastrophes because of these false relationships. Right, there is

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Speaker 1: something real in our psyche and our souls and even

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Speaker 1: in our bodies that links us to God and to

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Speaker 1: the creation. And so back with Joe in a second,

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Speaker 1: more on the theology and artificial intelligence. So stay tuned,

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Speaker 1: shortbreak coming up, use your Stephen K. Bab all Right,

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Speaker 1: Dave Brett back in the war room with a great

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Speaker 1: Joe Allen on artificial intelligence. Just discussing kind of the creation,

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Speaker 1: the resurrection of the soul, of technology, keeping the lives

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Speaker 1: of people with us. I just cannot see how this

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Speaker 1: does not have repercussions. Joe. Let me just tee you

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Speaker 1: up with a few of my views out of the

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Speaker 1: Christian tradition, where AI just violates basic Christian propositions. If

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Speaker 1: you just look across the Catholic Catechism, the Baltimore Catechism,

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Speaker 1: the Protestant Catechism, Heidelberg Catechism, Jewish scripture, why are we

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Speaker 1: on earth to glorify God?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: If you ask AI, do you glorify God? It says no.

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Speaker 1: If you ask it, what kind of ethical system do

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Speaker 1: you follow? It says, let me give you a history

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Speaker 1: of ethical systems? Right, And you try to and I'll say, well,

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Speaker 1: you make you're kind of making value judgments, and like

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Speaker 1: one of them I've been chatting with a little bit

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Speaker 1: to test it. It'll say, well, I follow the harm principle,

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Speaker 1: which is the utilitarians, you know, Bentham and Mill. And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that's better nothing. But then I say

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Speaker 1: to the machine, I say, well that's subjective, right, that

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Speaker 1: harm to you is not harmed of Hitler is different

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Speaker 1: than harm to mother Teresa, right, so that's subjective. And

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Speaker 1: it'll say, oh, very acute awareness. Right, let me give

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Speaker 1: you a history of that of the harm principle, and

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Speaker 1: so you can never pin it down on any moral questions, right.

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Speaker 1: And then digging a bit deeper into theology, I just

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Speaker 1: got done with the chaplain we're just talking about. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the key postulitz is we're made

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Speaker 1: in the image of God, and clearly artificial intelligence is

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Speaker 1: and if you ask it anything about that, it's blank

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Speaker 1: as well. And then if you go to the central

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Speaker 1: commands in the Christian tradition, in the Jewish tradition and

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Speaker 1: the Islamic trician love God and love your neighbor as yourself.

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Speaker 1: A I can't love right. And then then when you

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Speaker 1: go down to the next level and you look at

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Speaker 1: the creators of this stuff Altman, Sam Altman in Zuckerberg,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. When they're talking, they make me scared and nervous, right,

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Speaker 1: And so I just don't see how this goes well.

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Speaker 1: And so at a minimum, you know, they were trying

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Speaker 1: to get out of, you know, legislative accountability in the

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Speaker 1: last budget, and they was hidden by leadership. I guess

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Speaker 1: at a minimum, I want to plug. I want to

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Speaker 1: pull the plug, and I would like, you know, competition.

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Speaker 1: One of the nice things about having a few competitive

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Speaker 1: firms there is one of the firms should be able

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Speaker 1: to pull the plug on the other if they find

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Speaker 1: something that crosses a red line. And so that that's

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Speaker 1: just a quick set of observations. That's where my brain goes,

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Speaker 1: and the Liberty University kids, that's where their mind's gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Is this thing violates way too much of the basics,

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Speaker 1: and there's got to be some sort of repercussions about that.

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Speaker 1: And then the second point is how do we regulate

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Speaker 1: this thing? And so Joe just tee us up and

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Speaker 1: give us what you got, because I know you're steeped

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Speaker 1: in all of this.

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Speaker 12: The big question in America right now, and the Trump

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Speaker 12: action plan is a very bad sign as to where

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Speaker 12: it's going to go in my opinion.

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Speaker 5: But the question is.

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Speaker 12: How should one regulate or how should one govern artificial intelligence,

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Speaker 12: whether from the municipal or state or national level or

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Speaker 12: through international cooperation.

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Speaker 5: It's a free for all. It could go any direction.

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Speaker 12: You can see where it's going in California, which I

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Speaker 12: think is fairly reasonable, but who knows where. You can

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Speaker 12: see where it's going in Texas. You can see where

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Speaker 12: it's going in the EU. Right now, the US federal

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Speaker 12: government policy is basically to blow open the doors and

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Speaker 12: unleash whatever comes out the other end, whether it's GPT

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Speaker 12: five or GROCK or whatever.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 12: To the question of the image of God, the way

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Speaker 12: I think about this, oftentimes you think of Augustine's statement

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Speaker 12: that Satan is the ape of God, Satan is the

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Speaker 12: imitator of God. Well, artificial intelligence is the ape of

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Speaker 12: the image of God. Artificial intelligence is a reflection of

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Speaker 12: human writing, human visual art production, human filmmaking, all these

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Speaker 12: sorts of things, even just human thinking. Right it mimics

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Speaker 12: it in a kind of deformed fashion, but it is

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Speaker 12: ultimately kind of a mockery in the same way that

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Speaker 12: you get really irritated when you come up with a

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Speaker 12: great line and someone steals it and uses it.

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Speaker 5: Well, this is basically a machine that's.

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Speaker 12: Created to do exactly that, and so everything that you

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Speaker 12: pour into the digital space is basically fodder for the

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Speaker 12: eight of the image of God. And you know, I'm

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Speaker 12: not sure what models you were talking to. I would

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Speaker 12: imagine it was probably GPT or maybe Claude or maybe Grock.

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Speaker 12: Those responses that you just listed very very common, right

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Speaker 12: trying to stay morally neutral, trying out.

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Speaker 5: To be offensive.

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Speaker 12: There are a lot of people developing right now. AI

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Speaker 12: bots that will evangelize that will tell you exactly from

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Speaker 12: whatever tradition it's kind of either programmed to or guided

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Speaker 12: to reflect. You will have I think a lot of

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Speaker 12: very important religious leaders who will not say do not

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Speaker 12: use AI.

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Speaker 5: They will say you must embrace it.

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Speaker 12: You must, in essence catechise the bots, and you must

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Speaker 12: use artificial intelligence for evangelical purposes. And this is going

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Speaker 12: to raise really big questions because if you do not

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Speaker 12: evangelize as it's been done for two thousand years with

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Speaker 12: a human representative, a human model, flaw challenge a human.

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Speaker 5: With a biography, a story.

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Speaker 12: If you don't have that as the vehicle, right, or

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Speaker 12: the gospel, then this robot right, it's just simply a

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Speaker 12: transmission of information. You're basically programming people with the Gospel

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Speaker 12: rather than.

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Speaker 5: Truly spreading it.

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Speaker 12: These are gonna be huge challenges going forward, Dave, and

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Speaker 12: I am glad that you're wrestling with it.

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Speaker 5: Very few people have that courage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, well thanks to you and the point you

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Speaker 1: just brought up there, right, you know, the preaching and

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Speaker 1: the Protestant tradition, the word preached right from the they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to be preaching out of a good book, right,

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Speaker 1: So that would be helpful. But you know, AI can

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Speaker 1: certainly fake that and be the Ape of God there too,

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Speaker 1: But that will cross the line, right, The word preach

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Speaker 1: from the preacher out of the pulpit is the word

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Speaker 1: of God in our tradition, I think probably most of

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Speaker 1: the other traditions. Just in closing, Joe, just one other.

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Speaker 1: You know, every philosopher in the Western tradition, ancient philosophers,

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Speaker 1: you know, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Modern all the way up, Hobbes,

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Speaker 1: count Rousseau. Well, Rousseau is the exception. All of them said.

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Speaker 1: Human nature is bad, negative, right, very fallen the reforms that,

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Speaker 1: especially theological. So if you aggregate human nature into artificial intelligence,

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Speaker 1: every philosopher would conclude the aggregation is bad. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I went into this idea of a constitutional republic

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Speaker 1: where minority rights and minority factions are protected, because this

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Speaker 1: thing scares the daylight side of me and so any kind.

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Speaker 1: When you aggregate all human knowledge into one mass, my

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Speaker 1: conclusion is it's would represent human nature, which is quite

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Speaker 1: fallen in the Western tradition. Uh, one minute, and close

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Speaker 1: this out on that one, Joe.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dave, that's a great observation.

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Speaker 12: And it's it's true that say an AI is telling

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Speaker 12: people to commit suicide, say an AI is to telling

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Speaker 12: people to act in malevolent ways towards other people.

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Speaker 5: That is a reflection of its training data.

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Speaker 12: Right now, A sophisticated AI literally selected that for whatever reason,

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Speaker 12: statistical reasons, one assumes. But it's not as if it

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Speaker 12: was programmed to do that. People really got to get

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Speaker 12: beyond that, but it does reflect what was put into it, right,

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Speaker 12: human nature, human behavior, the hope of the kind of

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Speaker 12: transhumanist vision or the posthumanist vision is this that once

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Speaker 12: you have poured this flawed human nature into the machine,

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Speaker 12: once the machine has come to in essence understand or

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Speaker 12: grasp the mind of humanity, then either a human beings

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Speaker 12: with higher moral callings, right the sam Altmans of the world,

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Speaker 12: perhaps will then cull the negative aspects of human nature

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Speaker 12: from the machine and see that with the guardrails against racism, sexism,

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Speaker 12: homophobia all that. Now, the more unsettling idea is that

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Speaker 12: perhaps the machine itself will once sufficiently advanced artificial general

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Speaker 12: intelligence or superintelligence, that it will be better equipped to

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Speaker 12: figure out what is worth preserving in this digitized humanity

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Speaker 12: and what should be removed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to be a very very weird future.

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Speaker 12: It's going to be full of all sorts of great arguments,

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Speaker 12: just like the ones you're making. And I think that

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Speaker 12: people are going to have to wrestle with this really hard.

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Speaker 12: Do you want a digital, undead version of your lost

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Speaker 1: Joe, how do people get you? How do you bet?

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Speaker 1: How do people get you, Joe.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Dave.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great job, Joe, great as always, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're bringing in Rosemary Jenks. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: cold open on immigration. She's our superstar in house. What

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Speaker 1: do we got Denver.

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Speaker 7: Looking for the criminals, the people that murdered you know,

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Speaker 7: we have eleven thousand, eight hundred and eighty eight people

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Speaker 7: that came into our country under Biden, under with our

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Speaker 7: great Tsar the borders are. She never called one, you know,

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Speaker 7: she never called you whose the borders are. She never

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 7: Other than that, she did a great job. But they

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Speaker 7: had hundreds of people that were murders, eleven thousand, eight

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Speaker 7: hundred and eighty eight murders, fifty percent of which murdered

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Speaker 7: more than one person in our country. We've already gotten

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Speaker 7: a lot of them out, and some of them are

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Speaker 7: want to put them in our own prison because we

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Speaker 7: don't want up coming back. But they allowed eleven thousand,

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Speaker 7: eight hundred and eighty eight murderers, many of which murdered

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Speaker 7: more than one into our population, and we're getting them out.

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Speaker 1: A rapid all right. No better salesman on immigration than

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Speaker 1: President Donald Trump. But we've got the second leader in

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Speaker 1: our country on immigration, the Great Rosemary Jenks. Rosemary, I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to bring you on to remind people how

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Speaker 1: significant this issue is and was right. It catapulted. I

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Speaker 1: want a big election on the issue president Trump comes in.

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Speaker 1: It's one of these significant issues, probably top two. Why

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Speaker 1: does this issue capture the American people in a negative way,

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Speaker 1: in such a powerful way, And let folks know who

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Speaker 1: you're with and why this issue matters still and we

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Speaker 1: got to solve We're nowhere near solving it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I'm with the Immigration Accountability Project. You can find us

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Speaker 10: that iaproject dot org. All our social media is linked

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Speaker 10: from that homepage and we are very active on social media.

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Speaker 10: We have have been working on this issue, the immigration

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Speaker 10: issue for I have been for thirty five years. And

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Speaker 10: the reason is that immigration impacts every single aspect of

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Speaker 10: our lives. It impacts healthcare, education policy, housing availability, labor

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Speaker 10: force obviously, and national security and everything, welfare usage, how

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Speaker 10: much taxpayers have to pay for these folks. And I

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Speaker 10: think we reached a breaking point under Joe Biden when

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Speaker 10: he flung the doors of the border open and let

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Speaker 10: in as many people as he possibly could. Americans could

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Speaker 10: not help but see the impact.

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Speaker 1: We saw it all around us. We saw it in our.

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Speaker 10: Overcrowded public schools, We saw it in overcrowded emergency rooms.

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Speaker 10: We saw it in the lack of available affordable housing.

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Speaker 10: You know, we saw it everywhere. And then we had

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Speaker 10: the terrorist threats, you know, the guys who broke into

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Speaker 1: So there was no avoiding it.

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Speaker 10: And you know, even before that, a lot of Americans

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Speaker 10: had recognized what a damaging proposition open borders is. But

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Speaker 10: Americans are now also realizing that we have too much

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Speaker 10: legal immigration, whether that's through H one b's coming in

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Speaker 10: and taking American tech jobs, whether that's just through our

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Speaker 10: normal legal immigration system that's letting in over a million

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Speaker 10: people per year as lawful permanent residents. It's too much,

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Speaker 10: and we're at the highest foreign born population we've ever had,

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Speaker 10: including at the turn of the last century during the

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Speaker 10: Great Wave. So it's time to bring us back and

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Speaker 10: focus on Americans.

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Speaker 1: Right on the money, Rosemary Jinks, hold you over the

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Speaker 1: break for another minute or so for closing remarks. Stay

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Speaker 1: tuned War room for Rosemary Jinks. Confuse your host Stephen

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Speaker 1: All right back in the war room with Rosemary Jenks,

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Speaker 1: one of the leading experts in the country on immigration. Rosemary,

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Speaker 1: I want people today to be able to reach out.

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Speaker 1: In addition what you said the trafficking numbers, I've seen

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Speaker 1: the prostitution of young girls that are missing in this country.

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Speaker 1: Can you just close with any numbers on that? Just

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Speaker 1: think about what we're talking about people in the United

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Speaker 1: States of America, trafficking of young girls for prostitution. Let in,

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Speaker 1: everyone turns a blind eye somehow. What are the numbers there, Rosemary?

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Speaker 1: Then how do people reach you again? And then we

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Speaker 1: got to hustle through a bunch of other friends coming on.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so we know that the Biden administration actually lost

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Speaker 10: around three hundred thousand unaccompanied children who they let in

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Speaker 10: and then passed through a couple at least two government

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Speaker 10: agencies and then lost track of them. The Trump administration

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Speaker 10: has prioritized finding them, and they have found thousands of them,

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Speaker 10: including the fourteen children who were working at the potfield

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Speaker 10: in California and various others who have been labor trafficked

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Speaker 10: and sex trafficked. This is a crisis of our own making.

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Speaker 10: It is our government sponsored trafficking prices task.

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Speaker 1: Where do people go, Rosemary? How do they get the receipts?

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Speaker 1: How do people get these receipts? Where do they go

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Speaker 1: to follow you so they can share this information with

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Speaker 1: people and get this right.

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Speaker 10: Iaproject dot org is our website. We have all kinds

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Speaker 10: of resources, including a page of accountability that details the

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Speaker 10: votes and bills of every member of Congress on immigration,

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Speaker 10: and we have all of the executive orders that President

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Speaker 10: Trump has put out an iaproject dot org. We need

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Speaker 10: everybody's support to keep doing.

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Speaker 1: This great some thanks, Rosemary, Go support Rosemary and Immigration

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Speaker 1: Accountability Project. We've got Anna Paula Hankel with an update

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Speaker 1: what's going on with ball Sonaro. It's not good news,

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Speaker 1: but it's better news. But the assessment. Anna, what's going

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Speaker 1: down in Brazil? How do you characterize the regime down there?

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Speaker 9: H I'm su Brett, Thanks for having me. I'm in

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Speaker 9: Brazil and I am completely shocked to what I have

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Speaker 9: been seeing in the last couple of days. I'm an

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Speaker 9: American citizen, I am based the resident of Los Angeles,

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Speaker 9: and I have been living in the United States for

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Speaker 9: more than fifteen years now, but had to come to

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Speaker 9: Brazil to cover a lot of the political.

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Speaker 3: Scenario that it's happening here, and.

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Speaker 9: It's I'm even scared to be here, to be honest,

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Speaker 9: you know, even with my American passport, I'm scared to

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Speaker 9: be here because we have journalists in exile outside off Brazil.

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Speaker 9: We have no freedom of expression here. We have one

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Speaker 9: dictating what is the law. We have our constitution completely

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Speaker 9: ripped apart. And now you know, on top of all that,

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Speaker 9: we had the home therees issued home arrest for former

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Speaker 9: president Bolsonnaro because because he appeared in his son's social

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Speaker 9: media last Sunday. Last Sunday, we had major protests all

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Speaker 9: over Brazil. Thousands and thousands of people took the streets

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Speaker 9: to say, enough is enough, the law fair, the dictatorship.

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Speaker 9: Enough is enough, and President Bolsonaro went just to thank

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Speaker 9: people on his son's cell phone to say, thank you

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Speaker 9: so much.

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Speaker 3: We're going to continue to fight for Brazil.

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Speaker 9: So yesterday where Ice issue that home arrest for President

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Speaker 9: Bolsonaro for saying.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Anna, we're gonna get you back again. For a

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Speaker 1: longer segment, how do people get you quickly? Or social media?

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Speaker 9: Ana, Polo Hanko, Getter Truth, Instagram X. I'm posting everything

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Speaker 9: there about what's happening here in Brazil and thanks for

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Speaker 9: opening this page for us to show how Brazil is

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Speaker 1: share the receipts and share the war room with everyone

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Speaker 1: you know. God bless you all. Have a great day.