1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: Man Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norri along 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: with media Mark Anthony Mark back in October of nineteen 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: seventy three Pascagoula, Mississippi, who is an apparent UFO sighting 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: an alien abduction in which a Charles Hickson at a 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: nineteen year old by the name of Calvin Parker claimed 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: they were abducted and examined before being released by aliens 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: while fishing near Pascagoula. You knew Calvin Parker, who has 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: since passed away. 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: I did. I interviewed Calvin for a podcast I was 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 3: working on, and I got to know him, and we 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 3: used to speak on the phone quite a bit, and 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 3: I considered considered him a friend, and he really opened 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: up to me, and I was even able to do 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: a reading for him. In fact, George have done readings 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: for several people who've been who claim to have been 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: abducted by aliens from UFOs, including Nancy Tremaine and Calvin Parker, 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: who are two of the most credible abductees on record. 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: What happened with Calvin like you? Like You? Stated? He 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: and a friend. They were fishing, and he said, this 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: large object, metallic football shape object came out of the 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: sky and they wanted to run, but it hit them 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: with this light. And all the abductees that I've encountered, 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 3: they talked about this light that hits them, and it's 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: like they were paralyzed. He said, we couldn't move. These 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: robotic entities came out of the UFO and three of 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: them and they hovered over to them, grabbed them with 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 3: these pincher like claws, brought them on board. Charles and 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: Calvin were separated. Calvin said he was placed on a 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: table and then injected with something, and then the robotics 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: went up against the wall of this this vessel. He said. 32 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: The commander appeared to be the most beautiful woman he'd 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: ever seen, he said, except for two middle fingers. He said, 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: it looked kind of like this reptilian thing, the two 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: middle fingers on both their hands. And he was funny. 36 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: Calvin had a sense of humor. He goes, I would 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: have talked to her in a bar. He goes, look, 38 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: you know, the fingers, they were kind of weird. But 39 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: he said she was so beautiful. But what he described 40 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: other than that was absolutely horrific. He said, the probes, 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: this thing came out of the ceiling started. He said, 42 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: it was this device that came out of the ceiling 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: made in clicking sounds over him, and then they were 44 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: injecting him all over his body. Long story short is, 45 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: in the aftermath, he and Charles Hickson swore never to 46 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: talk about it, but of course they did, and they 47 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: ended up at the Sheriff's department. A medical examination showed 48 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: puncture wounds all over both of their bodies. It didn't 49 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: come out until years later. George that the Sheriff's department 50 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: was flooded with phone calls that day by people saying 51 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 3: they saw flying flying saucer UFO. All of this over 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: the past fifty years, Calvin and Charles were subjected to 53 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 3: light detectors, polygraph truth serum, sodium pentathole, interrogation, hypnotherapy and 54 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: always came up as no deception. So that's why he 55 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: and Charles Hickson were considered the most credible abductees. Charles 56 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: went public, he was on the Tonight Show and all 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: these other shows. Calvin was a more private person and 58 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: he and he also when I talked to him, he 59 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: opened up to me and said they came back for him. 60 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: Twenty years later, he said, he was in his truck 61 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: and he goes, damn, there was that thing again, and 62 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: the light and the robotics. They pulled him out of 63 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: his truck. He was by himself, and he said, and 64 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: there was that beautiful woman again, he said, but this time, 65 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: he goes, he was twenty years older. He was mad, 66 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: and he shoved her like when he was on board. 67 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: And he said, all of a sudden, it was like 68 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: this facade, the way I would describe to be like 69 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: holographic projection over the beautiful woman. And he said he 70 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: saw this reptile like creature underneath her, and then the 71 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: she was right, yeah, And Nancy Tremaine said the same thing. 72 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: She said, she saw the most handsome man she'd ever seen, 73 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: but he moved real quick, and she saw like this 74 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: reptilian almost kind of like an alligator type looking creature. 75 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: But when when Calvin resisted, he said, the robotics came 76 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: at him. They grabbed him, slammed him down, injected him 77 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: with something, and then after that he said, his health 78 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: started declining. In fact, he developed cancer, and sadly, Charles 79 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: m Charles had died a couple of years before him, 80 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: and they had had this falling out. And Calvin died 81 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: almost fifty years to the day of being abducted. 82 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: Now and he was only sixty eight when he passed away. 83 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was such a great guy, one of 84 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: the nicest, most downder the pun intended down to earth 85 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: people out of are met, but very humble, very very spiritual, 86 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: man of deep faith. I can't say enough kind things 87 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 3: about Calvin Parker. But what's happened in my career, George. 88 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: I've done readings for a number of people, and there 89 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: was this one. I was doing a gallery event in 90 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: front of about one hundred people in Denver and I 91 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: was zeroed in. I was drawn to this one young 92 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: man and he kind of looked like Tom Cruise from 93 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 3: the first top gun. You had those chiseled features, perfect 94 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: physical you know. It was like, you know, one of 95 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 3: these photoshop people. But his grandfather's spirit came through and 96 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: started talking about the message that came through from his 97 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 3: grandfather was the Grays keep coming for you. This kid 98 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: started shaking, the tears coming out of his eyes and 99 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 3: he goes, they keep coming for me. 100 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: Why? 101 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: And his grandfather's response was, it's the way you metabolize protein. 102 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: That's why they they mark you, and if you change 103 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: your diet, you'll become less interesting to them. Okay, now 104 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: I'm not explaining this to him because this is the message. 105 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know, I'm just as incredulous about 106 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: this as this young guy was. 107 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: Your mouth's wide opened. 108 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, my mouth's wide open. So throughout my work I 109 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 3: was able to meet Christaperno, and I know that Chris 110 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 3: has been on Coast to coast and Chris is used 111 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: to be a police investigator in the state of New 112 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: York and he started debriefing people claim to have been abducted, 113 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: and he was a total skeptic, didn't believe in it, 114 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 3: and then he believed in it. And now he is 115 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: the head of the New York chapter of moufan the 116 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: Mutual ufone Network, which I know Coast to Coast listeners 117 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 3: are familiar with for those who aren't, the Mutual ufone Network, 118 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: and it's not a bunch of dorks. I mean, these 119 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: are scientists, investigators, very very serious to ufiologists who study this. 120 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: We endorsed this group, by the way. 121 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And when I told him about In all 122 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 3: the readings, including the one I did for Calvin, the 123 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: protein issue always came up, and Charles or excuse me, 124 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: Chris said, what he goes Mark. We had found that 125 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: every abductee in the wake of their passing has an 126 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: insatiable craving for protein and salt. He said. One guy 127 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: that we met with he was shaking, craving protein so much. 128 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: Somebody had a package of hot dogs and the guy 129 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: grabbed it, ripped it open, and ate the entire package 130 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: of hot dogs. Wrong. They were like, uh, Well, Chris 131 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: and I were talking recently and I started doing some 132 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: research on the protein and protein synthesis is the process 133 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: of creating protein molecules. And to manufacture protein molecules, a 134 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: cell must first translate information from DNA to messenger RNA 135 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: through a process known as transcription. What transcription is It's 136 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: the copying of a gene's DNA sequence to make an 137 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: RNA molecule, and then this is used to build a 138 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: chain of amino acids. Long story short, According to Elmhurst 139 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: University in Northern Arizona University and those are only two 140 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: of the sources where I found this. Not all amino 141 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: acids are produced by the body. Other amino acids are 142 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 3: obtained from the diet. In other words, George, you start 143 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: changing your protein intake, you begin to alter the content 144 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: of your amino acids. And Chris and I were saying 145 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: that might make somebody less appealing to what the aliens 146 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: are looking for. 147 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: Why are the aliens looking for people that fit that mode? 148 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 2: I mean, they're not not like the Twilight soon to 149 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: serve man, They're not eating them right. 150 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: Well, this is the scary this is the perfect coast 151 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: to coast part and and on is taken aback by 152 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 3: this as as anyone. Christpernos said. Their resource research indicates 153 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: that the protein is a source for food for aliens. 154 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: They extract this this biological matter from humans, make it 155 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: into a paste, and they inject their In other words, 156 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: they absorb protein through the skin. And it appears that 157 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 3: the grays, which a lot of the abductees talk about, 158 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: based on Chris's research from several sources, the grays appear 159 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: to be some type of organically grown worker be that 160 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 3: different alien species visiting Earth are are utilizing. Now. This 161 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: ties into testimony before Congress from former intelligence officer David Grush. 162 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: He said that he testified before Congress that the United 163 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: States is in possession of non human biologics, and so 164 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: according to the research that move On has conducted, they 165 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: are using this material as a form of nourishment that 166 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: they absorb through their skin. And it appears that the 167 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: quote unquote non human biologics American scientists that are working 168 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: with the area fifty one non human biologics have figured 169 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: a way to synthesize this paste to keep these things alive. Now, 170 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: I know this sounds about us out there and as 171 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: x files as it gets, but this is some of 172 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: the evidence which has been coming up. And it also 173 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: indicates that they may be doing other things with the 174 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: protein extracted from humans, because protein is an essential element 175 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: to be used in cloning. And there's been a lot 176 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: of people on coast to coast that have said that 177 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: there are human alien hybrids. And think about it, George. 178 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: As far out as it sounds, we've all seen on 179 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: Nature documentaries people, you know, scientists will go out and 180 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: they'll they'll catch a shark or a dolphin and they'll 181 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: tag it, or they'll shoot a bear or whatever animal 182 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: with a tranquilizer, and while the creature is immobilized. All 183 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: sorts of tests are being done to it, and they'll 184 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: tag it and take sample. And Calvin said, that's what 185 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: it felt like to me. He says, I felt like 186 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: a lab rat, he said, you know, And no matter 187 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: how he tried to communicate with them, they appear to 188 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: understand him, at least in the telepathic sense, because with 189 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: the abductees, they said, they all receive a telepathic type 190 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: message that calm down, cooperate, And even though the aliens 191 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: are aware that their subjects are in pain, they seem 192 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: rather indifferent to it. And I know, I'm given a 193 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 3: lot of information at one time. This would be a 194 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: great topic for for Gaya. I'm beyond belief. I'd love 195 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: to because I have so much more that we could 196 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: go into on this topic. But we're just scratching the 197 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: tip of the iceberg as to why aliens are targeting 198 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 3: specific people for protein metabolization. 199 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: And listen to the statistic mark six hundred and thirty 200 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: thousand people worldwide disappear on the average every year, of 201 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: which ninety thousand of them are never found, never found. 202 00:12:54,760 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: Is it conceivable that these extraterrestrials are keeping these people? 203 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely I've also spoken with Don Eckert, and he is 204 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: another former police officer. He's the chief editor of UFO magazine, 205 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: and he said that there are human mutilations that have 206 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: been found, mutilated human bodies that it doesn't add up 207 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: how and why they're they're mutilated. The question is are 208 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: these the work of aliens? Maybe not, but it does 209 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: raise questions. And Chris and I Christaperno of Muffon and 210 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: I were talking and we brought up that very very 211 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: same topic. There's a lot of people who disappear. According 212 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: to some sources that I can't currently verify. There have 213 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 3: been abductees who indicated that while brought on board vessels, 214 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: they observed what appeared to be human body parts. So, 215 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: to answer your question directly, based at this point strictly 216 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: on here, it does appear that some people abducted are 217 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: are taken and dismembered. So, yes, people that disappear, It 218 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: is theoretically possible. And I'm not saying this is you know, 219 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: until I can verify it. I have to say this 220 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: is hearsay, but it is possible that some of the 221 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: people that disappear. This may be an explanation. 222 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: Why, as a lawyer would you not consider this highly unusual. 223 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely, because especially when I was a prosecutor and then 224 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: I was a criminal defense attorney and I also did 225 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: victim advocacy in the wake of passing. You have to 226 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: treat people that have been through these abduction experiences very 227 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: similar to rape and kidnap victims, because the psychological repercussions 228 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: of this are very similar. They're in shock, They're in shock, absolutely, 229 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: And you know, I know there's some people that that 230 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: maybe they're making it up and maybe they're not, but 231 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: the ones that I have done the readings for, I'm very, 232 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: very convinced that they were they were telling the truth. Also, 233 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: from a legal standpoint, you know what these beings are doing. 234 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: I mean, if this was a human that abducted somebody 235 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: and started doing all this type of thing, it's kidnapping, kidnapping, 236 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: it's it's assault, it's battery. 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