Speaker 1: Hi, guys, It's Sammy J. And for this week's episode,
Speaker 1: Megan Trainer was my guests, which is still crazy to say.
Speaker 1: I love that girl so much. I feel like I've
Speaker 1: known her for a really long time, yet we had
Speaker 1: just met, except for the fact that I went to
Speaker 1: her meet and greet in which is a very full
Speaker 1: circle moment. But I had such an incredible time talking
Speaker 1: with her about her new album, Treat Myself. We also
Speaker 1: talked about falling in love, anxiety, her surgeries that she
Speaker 1: went through, and we talk about a lot in this episode.
Speaker 1: So I hope you guys enjoy it. You guys, Megan's
Speaker 1: your right. I am so excited that you're on my podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm freaking out. Yeah, I'm freaking out, your young legend.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about so many things today,
Speaker 1: but I want to start with your new album and
Speaker 1: Treat Myself. First of all, the title have you seen
Speaker 1: Parks and Rack? Um? Okay, so you know the episode
Speaker 1: Treat Yourself. I've like, I think so yes, because that's
Speaker 1: the first thing that I thought of it when I
Speaker 1: thought of the album. Because Treating Yourself, it's honestly, it's
Speaker 1: not talked about enough, it's not it's not. Yes, amen,
Speaker 1: you're so smart it scares me. Um. Yeah, I loved
Speaker 1: how everyone was for a while. I was like treat
Speaker 1: yourself that whole phase, and I wanted to flip it
Speaker 1: on myself, and I was like, I'm gonna treat myself.
Speaker 1: And because I wrote a song called Treat Myself, it's
Speaker 1: not on the album, but it's out there already, so
Speaker 1: I wanted to put new songs on the album. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I I went through a phase of Um. I was
Speaker 1: like diagnosed with panic disorder and it was like when
Speaker 1: you get panic attacks all the time, panic attacks are
Speaker 1: don't even get it's career so young and you've had them.
Speaker 1: Mine hit at like five, I've had at since, like
Speaker 1: I don't remember like intense really yeah, I've had. I've
Speaker 1: been lucky to have only a few panic attacks, but
Speaker 1: when I have, it's like an out of a body experience. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I was younger, I would only have like maybe
Speaker 1: a handful, and I'd be an anxious kid and I
Speaker 1: always like picked the skin off my fingers, but nothing
Speaker 1: like this. This was like my body was like we
Speaker 1: need to break. It's scared. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: happens to be like I've had to miss school sometimes,
Speaker 1: like the last year when my anxiety was really bad,
Speaker 1: like it was crippling. Yeah, crippling, that's what I say.
Speaker 1: I can imagine if I had this in high school,
Speaker 1: I'd be like I need a week, Like I needed
Speaker 1: months to recover from this, and it took a lot.
Speaker 1: But um, my therapist actually said when I started going
Speaker 1: in and being like I don't have much to talk
Speaker 1: about I'm feeling right now, she was like, look at
Speaker 1: your transformation. Remember when you first came in here and
Speaker 1: you were vibrating and shaking and like crying all the time,
Speaker 1: and now you're like, what's up, girl? Like all happy.
Speaker 1: She was like a lot of people are talking about UM,
Speaker 1: are opening up to their stories of their panic, but
Speaker 1: like you've accomplished it, like you crushed it. And that's
Speaker 1: really important to acknowledge because I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: you go through therapy, which is great. If you don't go,
Speaker 1: you gotta gotta even if you don't have anxiety, I
Speaker 1: just recommend going learned about yourself. These interviews are great
Speaker 1: therapy for me, honestly, great, Let's talk about your story.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean, that's how treat myself came
Speaker 1: up because my therapist was like, you should treat yourself,
Speaker 1: You should do something for you because of this hard
Speaker 1: work you did. How did you treat yourself? Wail? I
Speaker 1: did a lot. I started um taking more time for
Speaker 1: myself and speaking up for myself and saying no, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's so hard, and I just like I want
Speaker 1: to make everyone proud and work really hard and that
Speaker 1: At some point, your body, like my mind, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm happy, I have the love of my life. I'm
Speaker 1: doing great, my career is awesome, I have all my dreams,
Speaker 1: and my body was like dang, dang, dang, this isn't
Speaker 1: okay or too it's too much for us. We gotta stop.
Speaker 1: Did you realize did you realize it was anxiety? At first? No?
Speaker 1: I had no idea. I was like very uneducated. I
Speaker 1: knew I heard will say like, oh I've had panic attacks,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know it could physically cripple you like that.
Speaker 1: So I thought like I was losing my mind. Like
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is like probably schizophrenia, or
Speaker 1: like I need to be in an asylum home and
Speaker 1: like really looked at for a long time, and and
Speaker 1: I was spooky. It was very scared. Um bodied association
Speaker 1: where you like leave your body from that, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is it. My brain is done, like it's giving up.
Speaker 1: But all it was was my chemicals were imbalanced. And
Speaker 1: so finally when a doctor told me that, I was like,
Speaker 1: that sounds like what's happening, and um, it can be fixed.
Speaker 1: It can be fixed. And I was like, hallelujah, this
Speaker 1: is it. Thank you so much. And he saved my life.
Speaker 1: And every time he calls my doctor, I'm like, you
Speaker 1: save my life. I love you. I think that's what's
Speaker 1: so great. And you know, you talk about how you
Speaker 1: had that vocal surgery so you literally couldn't talk and
Speaker 1: express what you were feeling, which that just adds an
Speaker 1: entire layer because one of the things that they say
Speaker 1: is to talk about your feeling things, get off your chest,
Speaker 1: and you literally couldn't. I think that's what started at all,
Speaker 1: because I had to cancel a bunch of shows, and
Speaker 1: you know, like canceling anything in this industry that could
Speaker 1: be your whole career, that's it. They're like we won't
Speaker 1: play you anymore, or like we're not going to support
Speaker 1: you anymore. And it was a matter of like my
Speaker 1: throat was bleeding, or like I can't physically do it
Speaker 1: because I need to go get surgery. Yeah, it really hurts,
Speaker 1: like a bad sore throat. And sometimes you can like
Speaker 1: I don't want to be gross. You can like taste
Speaker 1: blood and this is too much. And it was my
Speaker 1: second surgery, so I was like, obviously I'm not learning
Speaker 1: from my mistakes or I'm still working too much and
Speaker 1: um pushing myself too much. And by the second time,
Speaker 1: I had to vocal rest like three weeks before the
Speaker 1: surgery to make it stop and the like. It was
Speaker 1: like months of me trapped inside my head. Dave stresses
Speaker 1: me out, like not talking, how do you do it?
Speaker 1: How do you do I don't do vocal or I
Speaker 1: just the thought of it freaks. I have a phone
Speaker 1: app called like big or Text to Speech. I have
Speaker 1: two of them, and I'm like, but I can't even hum.
Speaker 1: I can't like when I got the surgery. You can't sneeze,
Speaker 1: you can't cough, you can't laugh, that's not okay. I
Speaker 1: was like, they have to figure something else out to
Speaker 1: make that easier. I was I would tell people like
Speaker 1: it's like you're a dancer and both your legs are
Speaker 1: broken for a minute, and you're like, and that's your career.
Speaker 1: This is my life, Like it's singing songs and writing songs.
Speaker 1: How am I supposed to write a song if I
Speaker 1: can't like record the vocal down, how am I supposed
Speaker 1: to translate it to someone else and have them sing it?
Speaker 1: Like I was thinking of the worst of the worst.
Speaker 1: So I think that's what started my brain to go
Speaker 1: extra and then I had to reel it back in.
Speaker 1: And now we do a lot of hot yoga. We
Speaker 1: treat ourselves. We I worked out the morning. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love hot yoga. Really. I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: are scared of it, but I would. I've never done
Speaker 1: regular yoga. I went right to hot yoga. I got this,
Speaker 1: you got the hot He's kind of like nice and
Speaker 1: cozy in the beginning. For me, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: cold right now. I'm wearing my husband sweatshirt. Well, I
Speaker 1: actually I want to talk to you about this album
Speaker 1: because I don't know where to start with this other
Speaker 1: than saying that I am obsessed with your voice because
Speaker 1: it is so versatile. You can literally do anything. There
Speaker 1: is there's something about it that's just magical. And I
Speaker 1: love the diversity on this album because you get a
Speaker 1: little bit of everything, and I think lyrically it's great.
Speaker 1: And a song that I just really related to it
Speaker 1: was another Opinion, whoa Wow, Okay great. I was worried
Speaker 1: about that one. Why because I wrote it so long
Speaker 1: ago and a lot of these songs I red like
Speaker 1: there was a new session and a new and that
Speaker 1: was an old one, like how long I saved Like
Speaker 1: the first round of writing songs for the album, I
Speaker 1: wrote about like three albums worth of material and that
Speaker 1: was in like the first batch, So you're that album
Speaker 1: four ready to roll. But my brothers were the ones
Speaker 1: that were like another opinion is very special and if
Speaker 1: you don't bring this back, you're making a mistake. And
Speaker 1: I was like okay, And I haven't been playing it
Speaker 1: in playbacks because I was like nervous. I don't know,
Speaker 1: because I love it. But that makes me so happy
Speaker 1: that you like it. Well, it's not just it's the
Speaker 1: message behind it, because especially just being in this age
Speaker 1: of social media, you know, everyone just opinions, and I
Speaker 1: can't imagine because you have are written about a lot,
Speaker 1: you have a big following. You know, are there any
Speaker 1: misconceptions people have about you? I read a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: like a lot of creative um insults. Then I'm just like, wow,
Speaker 1: that was you thought this through. Um. A lot of
Speaker 1: them are like just like is she still trying? Like
Speaker 1: is she's still here? Or like didn't she die? Like
Speaker 1: something like bizarre like that, Like I guess I left
Speaker 1: for too long And people are like, no, we're done
Speaker 1: with her. And I'm like, oh, she called me back.
Speaker 1: Here she is, So they're like, I'm still alive. I'm
Speaker 1: doing very well. Thank you, thriving. I'm in love. Tell
Speaker 1: me what that's like. It's so awesome. You're so young,
Speaker 1: but I know, I like first fell in love for
Speaker 1: the first time ever. I think it was your age.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, it was just one. There's only one other
Speaker 1: dude that I was like, that was love pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Everything else was like Okay, can you describe it for
Speaker 1: someone who's ever been in love? Put in words? You're
Speaker 1: a songwriter? Yeah, Um, when they when your other, when
Speaker 1: the person leaves the room, there's something about you that
Speaker 1: feels like less complete that you're like missing them. It's
Speaker 1: it's a weird, like all day long. I miss you,
Speaker 1: like even though we're in the same room, but I'm
Speaker 1: working over here, so I can't talk to you. What
Speaker 1: I miss you like that stuff like that. And I
Speaker 1: even asked my dad. I was like, because he was
Speaker 1: married three times, and I was like, what was what
Speaker 1: was mom? Like? Why was she the one that you
Speaker 1: stuck with forever? And he was like when she would
Speaker 1: when she would leave the building or leave the room,
Speaker 1: I missed her so much that I felt like something
Speaker 1: was wrong and it's not gonna be okay until she
Speaker 1: comes back. And I was like, I have that same
Speaker 1: exact thing. That's when you know. And that's like when
Speaker 1: people are like you just know when you know. I
Speaker 1: think that's it. And he married a spy kid, which
Speaker 1: I dude, of course I did. From the second movie.
Speaker 1: We have his outfit framed. My parents did this. We're
Speaker 1: Christmas that's one Christmas. Yeah, they're the greatest. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they framed his outfit because it was like sitting in
Speaker 1: our garage and I was like, this is important, like
Speaker 1: we should do something with this, and they stole it
Speaker 1: from us and framed it without us knowing, and it
Speaker 1: was like the best surprise ever. Where is it right
Speaker 1: in our living room, hung up right next to like
Speaker 1: the Spike Kids poster. And my dad was like, we're
Speaker 1: stick of seeing Megan everywhere. We want to see you.
Speaker 1: That's hysterical, it's great. Wow. Do you remember the first
Speaker 1: time you met him? Yeah? I was actually um a
Speaker 1: songwriting out here in Los Angeles. I was like, god,
Speaker 1: I was a eighteen nineteen so it's all about that
Speaker 1: base come out by now. Yeah. No, I was just
Speaker 1: a baby songwriter. And I was at this really nice,
Speaker 1: crazy fancy party for songwriters because we were like rooting
Speaker 1: for this team and we were like, there are friends
Speaker 1: and like the song in a community is like so tight.
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes you like know everyone and it's
Speaker 1: it's very nice because we're all like trying to support
Speaker 1: each other. So I was at this party and him
Speaker 1: and his friends came and crashed our party, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, it's Spike. It's like I
Speaker 1: love that I was your first react dude. I and
Speaker 1: I like never my night nearest to bother a celebrity
Speaker 1: or walk up to them and like say anything, Um,
Speaker 1: lasting I want to do is ask for a picture
Speaker 1: or any of that, Like how am I gonna know.
Speaker 1: My whole life, I've been like this, but I I
Speaker 1: was having a good time and I went up to
Speaker 1: him and was like, hey, he's Spike Kids and he
Speaker 1: was like yeah, and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: words to your the person you spent the rest of
Speaker 1: your life with. Then I didn't see him for two years.
Speaker 1: It was like one night he remembered my name, I
Speaker 1: remembered Spike Kids. I called my parents and was like,
Speaker 1: I met Spy Kids. And then two years later I
Speaker 1: was like pop star Megan Trainer with um my first
Speaker 1: two albums out, and I got set up on a
Speaker 1: date by Kloie Morettz and she was like this guy
Speaker 1: and I put him in Instagram and was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. I was like, oh my God. Like Spike Kids,
Speaker 1: I was like, it's him. I hope he doesn't remember
Speaker 1: me because I made a fool of myself. Okay, he
Speaker 1: remembers and it was sweet and he loves telling that
Speaker 1: story because I'm like, no, we met on the first
Speaker 1: date with my friends and it was great, and he's like, no,
Speaker 1: we met at a party two years before. That was
Speaker 1: the song after You on your album Inspired. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about that it is, dude, It's incredible. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I love that song. It likes different. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: it's that timeless music. That's like timeless, timeless. That's every song.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make this like last forever, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm petrified of death, so I want to live
Speaker 1: on forever music. Oh my god. Same, that's like my
Speaker 1: one fear I'll never get over, I think. But yeah,
Speaker 1: after you, I kept writing all these love songs and
Speaker 1: I was like, my dad made fun of me and
Speaker 1: was like, what is this the Darryl album? Like this
Speaker 1: is like too many, too much love? And I was like,
Speaker 1: you're right, not everyone has found their whole mate. I
Speaker 1: needed to relate to everyone because that's our stu power
Speaker 1: as a songwriter. And and so I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: how can I flip this? And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you have all of me and you could destroy me,
Speaker 1: Like this is the best thing, and if it's taken away,
Speaker 1: I'm done. Like there's a carving in my heart that
Speaker 1: a whole there, and no one else will fit that
Speaker 1: puzzle piece. And I always called each other like you're
Speaker 1: my missing puzzle piece because the best he just went
Speaker 1: and got me lunch. He takes care of me. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: So when you're writing this album, what was your creative process? Like?
Speaker 1: Mostly like just right as much as you can and
Speaker 1: may the best song win. And I would write with
Speaker 1: new people, and I would find people I loved, like
Speaker 1: Mike Sabbath. You're gonna love his music when it finally
Speaker 1: comes out hopefully one day. Um, but I'm just seeing
Speaker 1: what he's done with like your music, it's in tune.
Speaker 1: He also was on the Lizzo album. He was on
Speaker 1: a Little Mixes album. He's a wizard. He's a wizard, um,
Speaker 1: but he's I've met new people and this was the
Speaker 1: first time. Like for my first album, they were like,
Speaker 1: here's one person right with them and that's it. And
Speaker 1: I was like okay. And then the second album, I
Speaker 1: found people that like the new people that I loved
Speaker 1: writing with, and I was like, I'm gonna do the
Speaker 1: whole thing with you and that's it. And this time
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to write with as many
Speaker 1: people as I possibly can and find all the producers
Speaker 1: I possibly can. And I'm a creature of habits. So
Speaker 1: once I liked someone, I was like, it's you. For
Speaker 1: the next three months, and then I'd find a new
Speaker 1: one to be like it's you, which is great because
Speaker 1: my album is like all over the place. And that's
Speaker 1: how I like him, because I want some random person
Speaker 1: to pick it up and at least like one song,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I like all the songs and
Speaker 1: the us just the probability it's probably in your face.
Speaker 1: It's gonna hit somebody somewhere, you know. The collaborations. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the collaboration. Okay. First of all, Lennon Stella,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you for saying I think she's
Speaker 1: pinning credibly underrated artists underrated her on Nashville. Did you
Speaker 1: ever watch that show? She I went to the c
Speaker 1: m A. Is like my first year was all about Base.
Speaker 1: They wanted to perform in c m A. And I
Speaker 1: was like, this is nuts because I was in Nashville
Speaker 1: for a year writing songs for everyone, and then Nasical
Speaker 1: flats cut and then I was on stage with Miranda
Speaker 1: and was singing a song and sing it all about
Speaker 1: the Base, and I was like, well, what's going on?
Speaker 1: And Um I saw Lennon and her younger sister Um
Speaker 1: and they were at the carpet and I was like
Speaker 1: I love you girls, and they were like, such a
Speaker 1: good show. It's such a good show. And they've been
Speaker 1: music on that show. They've been singing forever together, and
Speaker 1: I was like, they're gonna be superstars, like everyone needs
Speaker 1: to watch out. And now she's finally been singing and
Speaker 1: I'm like, she's amazing every song. We listened to her
Speaker 1: nozop all day long. She's beautiful and yeah, we went
Speaker 1: to her show the same place some Sasha Salon had
Speaker 1: a show, which is so crazy because they're like right
Speaker 1: next to each other. They're both so underrated. They're superstars
Speaker 1: in my eyes and have hits for days well, and
Speaker 1: it's like that's the things where I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: understand why this isn't like the biggest song in the world,
Speaker 1: or like why the whole world isn't playing this NonStop? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well let's see. You also have Nicki Minaj, just like crazy,
Speaker 1: like the range of people you have Nicki Minaj, you
Speaker 1: have Lenin Sell, you the Pussycat dog a J. Mitchell,
Speaker 1: Like there there is not a wider range. I know
Speaker 1: I'm very random, but it's also yeah, I'm I'm random
Speaker 1: with like the people. It's just really the people I
Speaker 1: meet and who I'm loving and who I can get
Speaker 1: on a song is really it too, because like you
Speaker 1: dream for everything, I like, I wish every song had
Speaker 1: to collab. Every time I'm writing a song, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know who'd be crazy on this? Sam Smith like
Speaker 1: and we just like dream that would be there's just
Speaker 1: your I'm just thinking together put it on. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to collab with everybody. I'm definitely not that artists
Speaker 1: or songwriter that's like this is me, my whole album,
Speaker 1: me by myself. No, I want everyone to sing with me.
Speaker 1: And I love voices. I love songwriters, like Nikki is
Speaker 1: a songwriter and her verses like out of this world
Speaker 1: and it's my favorite part of the entire album. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty surely like I sing that her just her rap
Speaker 1: every every day, once a day and yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: with breakfasts are in every head when I walk in
Speaker 1: the world, like everything she said it was so good,
Speaker 1: and I tried to make it a point when I
Speaker 1: saw her, I was like, your songwriting skill is out
Speaker 1: of this world and it is such a gift to
Speaker 1: the world, and thank you for putting it on my
Speaker 1: song and letting me have this because this was like
Speaker 1: bucket list times twelve and she was like, wow, that's cool.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I wrote this song and she
Speaker 1: was like we're songwriters and we high fives and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is that's your life? Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1: That just crazy? When did this? I'll start when did
Speaker 1: all of that Base come out? Two thousand fourteen? I
Speaker 1: was nineteen years old, so six years ago, and now
Speaker 1: you're doing a song with Nicki Minaj? Like what? My
Speaker 1: mom and I bawled our eyes out after the video,
Speaker 1: like for hours, all about that base. Um for that yeah,
Speaker 1: but then on the only other video we bawled our
Speaker 1: eyes out on just like that, Like the base was
Speaker 1: nice to meet you with Nikki because it was we
Speaker 1: were so exhausted. It was like six am to two am,
Speaker 1: and I ended with dancing, so I was just like beat.
Speaker 1: And then I was so overwhelmed by every individual who
Speaker 1: was on set because that video took like a hundred
Speaker 1: people on set to help with lighting, with like outfits,
Speaker 1: with designs, and it was over. It was like a
Speaker 1: treatment that I wrote, which was crazy, so crazy because
Speaker 1: like your creative concept. Yeah, so you're like looking around
Speaker 1: and you're like this, My dreams are like being put
Speaker 1: together by hundreds of strangers that I'm meeting today. So
Speaker 1: at the very end, I was so tired and I
Speaker 1: was so happy and grateful, I started weeping. There's video
Speaker 1: and pictures still come out. It's embarrassing, and I just
Speaker 1: go around everyone I go, I'm sorry, thank you, because
Speaker 1: I would like make sure everything was perfect. And I
Speaker 1: was like if I was annoying, but it's like, it's
Speaker 1: like your dreams and my mom was bawling, was like,
Speaker 1: you have a song when Dickie Manaj. I mean, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: Like just saying that out loud, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And you know, I really want to talk more about
Speaker 1: just the process of writing songs because I know you're
Speaker 1: a songwriter. So it's kind of like a force of habit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's like another reflex. Yeah, it's like a reflex.
Speaker 1: So in twenty nineteen alone, how many songs do you
Speaker 1: think you wrote? Just like an es, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, we should figure that out though. It's a
Speaker 1: great question together. There's so many. And then the thing
Speaker 1: with me is that if I have a session, I
Speaker 1: finished a whole song. It's not like I've never I've
Speaker 1: never been like, let's start this and then we'll write
Speaker 1: the next verse in two weeks and then we'll come
Speaker 1: back to it. Like I can't handle that. I need
Speaker 1: it now, you know, I have no patience. So I
Speaker 1: bet if we look at the calendar and we see
Speaker 1: if I had a session, that that'd be a song
Speaker 1: for each day. So in three years, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a lot. It's a lot of songs. And I also
Speaker 1: have been writing for movies in between it all, and
Speaker 1: I've um, I wrote like a half a Christmas album
Speaker 1: already that just like randomly happened this year because we
Speaker 1: were feeling extra extra extra Christmas. It was great. So
Speaker 1: we always right, we write all the time. And now
Speaker 1: my older brother is a songwriter officially because he's been
Speaker 1: doing this full time and he was never confident enough
Speaker 1: to say it. But now we'll be talking, we're like, yo,
Speaker 1: that's a crazy song, and then we'll a writing is
Speaker 1: what a fun family bonding time? Yeah, they're my best friends.
Speaker 1: They live in my house really, my older brother and
Speaker 1: my younger brother and my husband and my four dogs.
Speaker 1: That could be a reality show in it a lot
Speaker 1: of people are like, you need a show that be
Speaker 1: very entertaining. I mean, it's crazy to think how far
Speaker 1: you've come just in the last six years. And a
Speaker 1: question that I've been asking some of my guests, and
Speaker 1: they all have different responses, is what would you tell
Speaker 1: your younger self, Because you know, I'm seventeen and I'm
Speaker 1: still trying to get through high school. You are accomplished
Speaker 1: so much that you'll probably what's your goals? Um Like,
Speaker 1: are you talking dream interviews? Are just life? And then
Speaker 1: if we're talking drinks like dream interviews oprah Lin, Manuel
Speaker 1: Miranda and Michelle Obama, Lynn is like on my list,
Speaker 1: like dream this is easy. Like that's when my friend
Speaker 1: taught me on the chrembill this morning. She was like
Speaker 1: she's like this is easy. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: so hard. She's like, no, no, no, If you just go, oh,
Speaker 1: this is easy. I started running twice as fast as
Speaker 1: I was running, and I was like, oh, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is easy, like you want it. That was like the
Speaker 1: best example of like I want it to be better
Speaker 1: at this, I'm gonna just do it. Just do it.
Speaker 1: Like anything that was ever an opportunity that I could do,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, okay, sure and did it like
Speaker 1: they came. I always wanted to be a superstar of
Speaker 1: pop star, like sing my own songs on stage. I
Speaker 1: was like, that's so cool. But I was so shy
Speaker 1: and so insecure. And then when they said who's singing
Speaker 1: the song all about that bass? We'll just sign her,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, sure, do you want to something
Speaker 1: crazy in twenty I think it's I went to I
Speaker 1: Think You're Meet and Greet and jingle Ball for all
Speaker 1: about that bass and my friend and I made a
Speaker 1: poster I was and I think it fifth grae Star
Speaker 1: Helpful circules were in l A, New York. Oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that. I was so scared then, really yeah,
Speaker 1: because I didn't perform like I used to, Like I'm
Speaker 1: used to performing with my guitar in front of like
Speaker 1: twenty people, like at a beach. Was that like your first?
Speaker 1: That was my first? They threw me out there and
Speaker 1: was like yo, and I was like okay, And I
Speaker 1: was like twenty thousand people those arenas, that's twice as
Speaker 1: big as the population on the album. I mean on
Speaker 1: the island that I'm from. That's crazy. I'm from an island.
Speaker 1: That's half amount of people. And I actually also heard
Speaker 1: you perform I think at the I Heart Music Festival
Speaker 1: in Vegas, like right after all about I saw and
Speaker 1: I was like, she's good. I remember it. A ukuleles
Speaker 1: hold up. Fifties cent went right before me, alright right
Speaker 1: after I was young. I remember, was like, why am
Speaker 1: I opening fifties? And then Hillary Duff announced my name
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's it. That's like my bucket
Speaker 1: list dreams. I can die happy. I like Duf too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. I love her. She'll never know and
Speaker 1: I tell everyone now that my um no, I did
Speaker 1: tell her this my alias or whatever your secret word.
Speaker 1: I managed hates this my secret name at hotels when
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hide and be like, it's not me.
Speaker 1: Is Lizzie McGuire that find me best? And they? But
Speaker 1: it was actually sad sometimes in the very beginning, when
Speaker 1: people didn't really know that I sang the songs, they
Speaker 1: were like, is Hillary here? And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: give me my salad, like oh my god, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: like can we get a picture with her? And I
Speaker 1: was like, you know that that is I told her that.
Speaker 1: She's like, that's bizarre. I still do it. They're like
Speaker 1: miss McGuire, I'm like, yes, Oh my goodness, that is incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, so you asked me about my dreams.
Speaker 1: I wanted yours. Yes. Oh sorry, god, I go so
Speaker 1: are off topic? Um uh five years from now, you've
Speaker 1: already done. I'm having babies. I want to be a
Speaker 1: mom my whole life. But I have we thought of names. Oh,
Speaker 1: I have names, but Nicki Minajha told me not to
Speaker 1: tell anyone. Tell me after. She's like, don't tell me,
Speaker 1: and I was like okay, She's like I have my
Speaker 1: names and I'm not telling anyone. I was like, great, okay.
Speaker 1: So kids, kids, a farm of kids, a lot of them. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know how do it pregnancy, but we'll say um.
Speaker 1: Also on the treblege, my friend was like, do it
Speaker 1: for your kids, and I was like, let's go. And
Speaker 1: you know that's a really good motivational attack, dude, right,
Speaker 1: Like I want to be the healthiest pregnant person ever.
Speaker 1: You know. I want my doctor to be like, wow,
Speaker 1: everything is a okay for you. Yeah, but I also
Speaker 1: want that's the time where I can be like I
Speaker 1: can have whatever I want and no one can say
Speaker 1: and I mean, yeah, I mean I can, I can.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I could be like I'm
Speaker 1: still hungry because that's what I do now. But it's
Speaker 1: just like weird earls, Like like last night he gave
Speaker 1: me something that helps you sleep, like meltona or whatever,
Speaker 1: and it tasted so bad and I was like, I
Speaker 1: need salt vinegar chips now. He laughed so hard. He's like,
Speaker 1: it's like ten pm, and I was like, but I
Speaker 1: need them, but like it will get the taste out
Speaker 1: of my mouth with this problem. Yeah, so maybe when
Speaker 1: I'm pregnant, I could be like, you know what round
Speaker 1: three please? You know, yeah, I just have as many
Speaker 1: salt and vinegar chips as I love them. Is there
Speaker 1: a dream venu that you have in our venue? Yes?
Speaker 1: I want UM. I mean I grew up near Um
Speaker 1: the Garden. I'm like, what is the place that I
Speaker 1: really want to sell out? I want to um one
Speaker 1: bucket list, which I don't know if I'll achieve, but
Speaker 1: I have to and I'm gonna achieve. It is selling
Speaker 1: out Arenas like a tour of Arenas surprise that hasn't
Speaker 1: already happened. I know it's because my team has been
Speaker 1: very smart and very safe, whether like let's do a
Speaker 1: tour that we know we'll sell out and we can
Speaker 1: do two rounds at the same place, and it was
Speaker 1: like they were like many arenas, so I felt really good.
Speaker 1: But I've been gone for so long that I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to go out there and be like, let's do
Speaker 1: an arena tour catch up to ease yourself back. So
Speaker 1: I'm like going on tour with More and five. I'm
Speaker 1: opening for them, which I'm side excited, so excited, and
Speaker 1: i just love all their songs. They have so many hits,
Speaker 1: so it's just gonna be a show of likes and
Speaker 1: like a really good time. And it's so funny the
Speaker 1: reactions I get of like a lot of my fans
Speaker 1: are like, oh my goodness, I'm coming. I'm so going
Speaker 1: to be there, And I'm like, Okay, are you guys
Speaker 1: stopping by New York? Yeah, We're going everywhere. I'm pretty sure, right,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, We're doing like four stadiums, which is like
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna be spoiled. I'm gonna be in that
Speaker 1: arena life, so I'll be like, okay, so it's a
Speaker 1: good practice. Yeah, alright, like all that's how we do it.
Speaker 1: And touring in Arenas is it's very nice and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be spoiled. It's gonna be great. I'm surprised because
Speaker 1: you have anxiety that doesn't give you know, the hardest
Speaker 1: part is the physical exhaustion of it. Touring for me
Speaker 1: has been very tough so far, like when the last
Speaker 1: tour or I had to get surgery after, but it
Speaker 1: was also like I toured and then we jumped right
Speaker 1: into promo again, so it's like I never stopped and
Speaker 1: we made sure this round like in the middle of
Speaker 1: tour um the murmuron five is taking a big fat
Speaker 1: break like two weeks or something off, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is gorgeous. I would love that as well, So
Speaker 1: like I'm going to go home and rest and then
Speaker 1: we'll go right back on tour and do it again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so much better, and I know like what my
Speaker 1: body is capable of doing. I know I have to
Speaker 1: work out, eat healthy, and go to bed, which will
Speaker 1: be easier since I'm an opener now and I'm not
Speaker 1: late at night. I love I love sleep, I love
Speaker 1: in night. When we can do that, that's everything. Some
Speaker 1: days work like after the music video we got home
Speaker 1: at too, and then your brain is just awake till four,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're too tired to go to sleep. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: thank you for telling I love you. I could talk
Speaker 1: to you forever. I'm so good at this. Really, I
Speaker 1: couldn't s get all when I was your age. I
Speaker 1: still struggle because I don't read books. Children, Go read books. Yes,
Speaker 1: it'll make you sound smarter or audible. I like it.
Speaker 1: That's nice. My husband does that? Really? Still too lazy? Nice?
Speaker 1: Unless it's doctor pil. I love doctor Phil. I love you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for letting me be on this. It's great.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm honored. I hope you guys enjoyed
Speaker 1: this episode with Megan Trainer. It was so great just
Speaker 1: getting to talk to her and make sure you listen
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