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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, It's Sammy J. And for this week's episode,

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Speaker 1: Megan Trainer was my guests, which is still crazy to say.

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Speaker 1: I love that girl so much. I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: known her for a really long time, yet we had

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Speaker 1: her meet and greet in which is a very full

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Speaker 1: circle moment. But I had such an incredible time talking

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Speaker 1: with her about her new album, Treat Myself. We also

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Speaker 1: talked about falling in love, anxiety, her surgeries that she

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Speaker 1: went through, and we talk about a lot in this episode.

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Speaker 1: So I hope you guys enjoy it. You guys, Megan's

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Speaker 1: your right. I am so excited that you're on my podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm freaking out. Yeah, I'm freaking out, your young legend.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about so many things today,

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Speaker 1: but I want to start with your new album and

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Speaker 1: Treat Myself. First of all, the title have you seen

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Speaker 1: Parks and Rack? Um? Okay, so you know the episode

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Speaker 1: Treat Yourself. I've like, I think so yes, because that's

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Speaker 1: the first thing that I thought of it when I

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Speaker 1: thought of the album. Because Treating Yourself, it's honestly, it's

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Speaker 1: not talked about enough, it's not it's not. Yes, amen,

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Speaker 1: you're so smart it scares me. Um. Yeah, I loved

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Speaker 1: how everyone was for a while. I was like treat

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Speaker 1: yourself that whole phase, and I wanted to flip it

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Speaker 1: And because I wrote a song called Treat Myself, it's

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Speaker 1: not on the album, but it's out there already, so

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Speaker 1: I wanted to put new songs on the album. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I went through a phase of Um. I was

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Speaker 1: like diagnosed with panic disorder and it was like when

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Speaker 1: you get panic attacks all the time, panic attacks are

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Speaker 1: don't even get it's career so young and you've had them.

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Speaker 1: Mine hit at like five, I've had at since, like

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Speaker 1: I don't remember like intense really yeah, I've had. I've

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Speaker 1: been lucky to have only a few panic attacks, but

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Speaker 1: when I have, it's like an out of a body experience. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When I was younger, I would only have like maybe

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Speaker 1: always like picked the skin off my fingers, but nothing

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Speaker 1: like the last year when my anxiety was really bad,

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Speaker 1: like it was crippling. Yeah, crippling, that's what I say.

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Speaker 1: I can imagine if I had this in high school,

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Speaker 1: I'd be like I need a week, Like I needed

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Speaker 1: months to recover from this, and it took a lot.

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Speaker 1: But um, my therapist actually said when I started going

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Speaker 1: in and being like I don't have much to talk

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Speaker 1: about I'm feeling right now, she was like, look at

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Speaker 1: your transformation. Remember when you first came in here and

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Speaker 1: you were vibrating and shaking and like crying all the time,

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Speaker 1: and now you're like, what's up, girl? Like all happy.

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Speaker 1: She was like a lot of people are talking about UM,

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Speaker 1: really important to acknowledge because I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you go through therapy, which is great. If you don't go,

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Speaker 1: you gotta gotta even if you don't have anxiety, I

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Speaker 1: just recommend going learned about yourself. These interviews are great

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Speaker 1: therapy for me, honestly, great, Let's talk about your story.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean, that's how treat myself came

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Speaker 1: You should do something for you because of this hard

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Speaker 1: work you did. How did you treat yourself? Wail? I

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Speaker 1: did a lot. I started um taking more time for

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Speaker 1: and it's so hard, and I just like I want

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Speaker 1: At some point, your body, like my mind, I was like,

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Speaker 1: Did you realize did you realize it was anxiety? At first? No?

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Speaker 1: And every time he calls my doctor, I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: save my life. I love you. I think that's what's

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Speaker 1: so great. And you know, you talk about how you

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Speaker 1: just the thought of it freaks. I have a phone

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Speaker 1: This is my life, Like it's singing songs and writing songs.

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Speaker 1: And now we do a lot of hot yoga. We

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Speaker 1: love hot yoga. Really. I know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: And a song that I just really related to it

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Speaker 1: me what that's like. It's so awesome. You're so young,

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Speaker 1: it's a weird, like all day long. I miss you,

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Speaker 1: Christmas that's one Christmas. Yeah, they're the greatest. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've come just in the last six years. And a

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Speaker 1: question that I've been asking some of my guests, and

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Speaker 1: they all have different responses, is what would you tell

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Speaker 1: your younger self, Because you know, I'm seventeen and I'm

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Speaker 1: still trying to get through high school. You are accomplished

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Speaker 1: so much that you'll probably what's your goals? Um Like,

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Speaker 1: are you talking dream interviews? Are just life? And then

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Speaker 1: if we're talking drinks like dream interviews oprah Lin, Manuel

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Speaker 1: Miranda and Michelle Obama, Lynn is like on my list,

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Speaker 1: like dream this is easy. Like that's when my friend

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Speaker 1: taught me on the chrembill this morning. She was like

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Speaker 1: she's like this is easy. I was like, this is

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Speaker 1: so hard. She's like, no, no, no, If you just go, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is easy. I started running twice as fast as

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Speaker 1: I was running, and I was like, oh, yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is easy, like you want it. That was like the

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Speaker 1: best example of like I want it to be better

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Speaker 1: at this, I'm gonna just do it. Just do it.

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Speaker 1: Like anything that was ever an opportunity that I could do,

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, okay, sure and did it like

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Speaker 1: they came. I always wanted to be a superstar of

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Speaker 1: pop star, like sing my own songs on stage. I

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Speaker 1: was like, that's so cool. But I was so shy

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Speaker 1: and so insecure. And then when they said who's singing

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Speaker 1: the song all about that bass? We'll just sign her,

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, sure, do you want to something

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Speaker 1: crazy in twenty I think it's I went to I

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Speaker 1: Think You're Meet and Greet and jingle Ball for all

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Speaker 1: about that bass and my friend and I made a

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Speaker 1: poster I was and I think it fifth grae Star

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Speaker 1: Helpful circules were in l A, New York. Oh my god, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that. I was so scared then, really yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I didn't perform like I used to, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: used to performing with my guitar in front of like

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Speaker 1: twenty people, like at a beach. Was that like your first?

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Speaker 1: That was my first? They threw me out there and

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Speaker 1: was like yo, and I was like okay, And I

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Speaker 1: was like twenty thousand people those arenas, that's twice as

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Speaker 1: big as the population on the album. I mean on

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Speaker 1: the island that I'm from. That's crazy. I'm from an island.

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Speaker 1: That's half amount of people. And I actually also heard

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Speaker 1: you perform I think at the I Heart Music Festival

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Speaker 1: in Vegas, like right after all about I saw and

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Speaker 1: I was like, she's good. I remember it. A ukuleles

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Speaker 1: hold up. Fifties cent went right before me, alright right

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Speaker 1: after I was young. I remember, was like, why am

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Speaker 1: I opening fifties? And then Hillary Duff announced my name

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Speaker 1: and I was like, that's it. That's like my bucket

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Speaker 1: list dreams. I can die happy. I like Duf too.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. I love her. She'll never know and

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Speaker 1: I tell everyone now that my um no, I did

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Speaker 1: tell her this my alias or whatever your secret word.

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Speaker 1: I managed hates this my secret name at hotels when

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to hide and be like, it's not me.

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Speaker 1: Is Lizzie McGuire that find me best? And they? But

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Speaker 1: it was actually sad sometimes in the very beginning, when

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Speaker 1: people didn't really know that I sang the songs, they

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Speaker 1: were like, is Hillary here? And I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: give me my salad, like oh my god, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: like can we get a picture with her? And I

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Speaker 1: was like, you know that that is I told her that.

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Speaker 1: She's like, that's bizarre. I still do it. They're like

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Speaker 1: miss McGuire, I'm like, yes, Oh my goodness, that is incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, so you asked me about my dreams.

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Speaker 1: I wanted yours. Yes. Oh sorry, god, I go so

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Speaker 1: are off topic? Um uh five years from now, you've

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Speaker 1: already done. I'm having babies. I want to be a

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Speaker 1: mom my whole life. But I have we thought of names. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I have names, but Nicki Minajha told me not to

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Speaker 1: tell anyone. Tell me after. She's like, don't tell me,

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Speaker 1: and I was like okay, She's like I have my

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Speaker 1: names and I'm not telling anyone. I was like, great, okay.

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Speaker 1: So kids, kids, a farm of kids, a lot of them. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how do it pregnancy, but we'll say um.

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Speaker 1: Also on the treblege, my friend was like, do it

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Speaker 1: for your kids, and I was like, let's go. And

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Speaker 1: you know that's a really good motivational attack, dude, right,

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Speaker 1: Like I want to be the healthiest pregnant person ever.

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Speaker 1: You know. I want my doctor to be like, wow,

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Speaker 1: everything is a okay for you. Yeah, but I also

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Speaker 1: want that's the time where I can be like I

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Speaker 1: can have whatever I want and no one can say

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Speaker 1: and I mean, yeah, I mean I can, I can.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I could be like I'm

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Speaker 1: still hungry because that's what I do now. But it's

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Speaker 1: just like weird earls, Like like last night he gave

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Speaker 1: me something that helps you sleep, like meltona or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and it tasted so bad and I was like, I

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Speaker 1: need salt vinegar chips now. He laughed so hard. He's like,

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Speaker 1: it's like ten pm, and I was like, but I

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Speaker 1: need them, but like it will get the taste out

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Speaker 1: of my mouth with this problem. Yeah, so maybe when

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Speaker 1: I'm pregnant, I could be like, you know what round

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Speaker 1: three please? You know, yeah, I just have as many

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Speaker 1: salt and vinegar chips as I love them. Is there

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Speaker 1: a dream venu that you have in our venue? Yes?

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Speaker 1: I want UM. I mean I grew up near Um

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Speaker 1: the Garden. I'm like, what is the place that I

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Speaker 1: really want to sell out? I want to um one

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Speaker 1: bucket list, which I don't know if I'll achieve, but

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Speaker 1: I have to and I'm gonna achieve. It is selling

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Speaker 1: out Arenas like a tour of Arenas surprise that hasn't

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Speaker 1: already happened. I know it's because my team has been

527
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: very smart and very safe, whether like let's do a

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Speaker 1: tour that we know we'll sell out and we can

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Speaker 1: do two rounds at the same place, and it was

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Speaker 1: like they were like many arenas, so I felt really good.

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Speaker 1: But I've been gone for so long that I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to go out there and be like, let's do

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Speaker 1: an arena tour catch up to ease yourself back. So

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Speaker 1: I'm like going on tour with More and five. I'm

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Speaker 1: opening for them, which I'm side excited, so excited, and

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Speaker 1: i just love all their songs. They have so many hits,

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Speaker 1: so it's just gonna be a show of likes and

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00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: like a really good time. And it's so funny the

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00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: reactions I get of like a lot of my fans

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00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 1: are like, oh my goodness, I'm coming. I'm so going

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Speaker 1: to be there, And I'm like, Okay, are you guys

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00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: stopping by New York? Yeah, We're going everywhere. I'm pretty sure, right,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, We're doing like four stadiums, which is like

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna be spoiled. I'm gonna be in that

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Speaker 1: arena life, so I'll be like, okay, so it's a

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00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: good practice. Yeah, alright, like all that's how we do it.

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Speaker 1: And touring in Arenas is it's very nice and I'm

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00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna be spoiled. It's gonna be great. I'm surprised because

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Speaker 1: you have anxiety that doesn't give you know, the hardest

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Speaker 1: part is the physical exhaustion of it. Touring for me

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00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: has been very tough so far, like when the last

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00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: tour or I had to get surgery after, but it

553
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: was also like I toured and then we jumped right

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00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: into promo again, so it's like I never stopped and

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00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: we made sure this round like in the middle of

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Speaker 1: tour um the murmuron five is taking a big fat

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Speaker 1: break like two weeks or something off, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: this is gorgeous. I would love that as well, So

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Speaker 1: like I'm going to go home and rest and then

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Speaker 1: we'll go right back on tour and do it again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's so much better, and I know like what my

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Speaker 1: body is capable of doing. I know I have to

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Speaker 1: work out, eat healthy, and go to bed, which will

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Speaker 1: be easier since I'm an opener now and I'm not

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Speaker 1: late at night. I love I love sleep, I love

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Speaker 1: in night. When we can do that, that's everything. Some

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Speaker 1: days work like after the music video we got home

568
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: at too, and then your brain is just awake till four,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you're too tired to go to sleep. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: thank you for telling I love you. I could talk

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Speaker 1: to you forever. I'm so good at this. Really, I

572
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: couldn't s get all when I was your age. I

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Speaker 1: still struggle because I don't read books. Children, Go read books. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it'll make you sound smarter or audible. I like it.

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Speaker 1: That's nice. My husband does that? Really? Still too lazy? Nice?

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Speaker 1: Unless it's doctor pil. I love doctor Phil. I love you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for letting me be on this. It's great.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm honored. I hope you guys enjoyed

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Speaker 1: this episode with Megan Trainer. It was so great just

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Speaker 1: getting to talk to her and make sure you listen

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Speaker 1: to her a new album, treat myself, and make sure

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Speaker 1: you follow her on her social switches. Megan Underscore Trainer

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Speaker 1: and follow me on Instagram, which is it's Sammy J

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Speaker 1: I T S S A M M Y j A

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Speaker 1: y E. And if you're feeling a little snazzy, you

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Speaker 1: can always follow the podcast account which is Sammy j Dot.

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Speaker 1: Let's be real I think you're gonna want to follow

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Speaker 1: that because it's some really fun giveaways coming. So I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying bye, guys,