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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's almost Famas podcast. We're here with April sat down

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Speaker 2: and she said, let's make this quick. Why do you

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Speaker 2: want to make this quick?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's getting late and I have to catch a

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Speaker 3: flight tomorrow. So and I've been interviewing all night, so

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Speaker 3: I'm ready and I'm fired up. So I'm all warmed

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Speaker 3: up for you. So you eat to get the best

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Speaker 3: of me.

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Speaker 4: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: How does it feel to be being interviewed all night

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Speaker 2: and to be so busy at ten forty?

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Speaker 3: Actually, when I did have a radio show with Cumulus,

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Speaker 3: I did work till midnight.

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Speaker 4: Every night.

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Speaker 3: I did the drive five home, so I would start

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Speaker 3: at five and end up. Of course, we'd go home

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Speaker 3: a little bit early, pre tape some of the endings,

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Speaker 3: and I'd be home in bed by eleven thirty.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I like it. I'm cool, I'm down.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're here at the Bachelor Mansion.

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Speaker 4: Yes we are.

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Speaker 2: Feel good to be back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bittersweet. I had a great time here. It was

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Speaker 3: very healing.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: An experience that for me I got to go back

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Speaker 3: and pick up things I had missed as a younger person.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was really healing.

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Speaker 2: It's been a theme tonight April where people have came

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Speaker 2: in and said a few different ways. You're the first

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Speaker 2: one that say healing. One person said they felt less alone.

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Speaker 2: Another said they kind of found their like tribe or

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Speaker 2: their people. Uh when they walked in the house. Why

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Speaker 2: do you use the word healing.

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Speaker 3: For Well, I'm a therapist, so I'm always looking at areas.

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Speaker 4: That I still need work on.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're human beings and this is a lifetime process,

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Speaker 3: and so I don't think that healing is ever finished.

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Speaker 3: So when I came in, we got to stay in

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Speaker 3: these bunk beds. I'll give you an example. I had

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Speaker 3: never had the opportunity to go away to college. I

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Speaker 3: went to a local college. My mother had mental health issues.

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Speaker 3: I never got to be a freshman in college. So

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Speaker 3: when I got here and I was up there with

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Speaker 3: and they took those mics off us, I just went

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Speaker 3: I had so much fun, and it was like I

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Speaker 3: was given an opportunity to go back and catch up.

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Speaker 3: And there was other things that I had realized that

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Speaker 3: it was time to let go of Ralph my significant

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Speaker 3: other that I had been with for twenty years, that

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Speaker 3: he had passed away, that Gary. That interaction with Gary

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Speaker 3: gave me the opportunity to realize that it was time

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Speaker 3: for me to move on women issues that I thought

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Speaker 3: I struggled with alone. I realized that it was a

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Speaker 3: universal kind of feeling that I was going through and

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Speaker 3: many aspects of my life. Also, I saw people getting

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Speaker 3: triggered a lot. And what really helped me is to

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Speaker 3: know everybody, even at our age, has issues. Nobody's ever

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Speaker 3: completely healed. I mean, be afraid. If someone says they

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Speaker 3: don't need a counselor and they got it together, they're

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Speaker 3: a bat crazy run the other way, because we are

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Speaker 3: all constantly learning and struggling and catching things. And it's

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Speaker 3: like peeling a lemon, you know, just keep you know,

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Speaker 3: you keep peeling it and peeling it and peeling it

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Speaker 2: Well, this is obviously something that you aren't unfamiliar with.

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Speaker 2: This isn't something that you knew, uh, just because you

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Speaker 2: walked into the mansion. You've known this obviously for for

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Speaker 2: a long time. When you come across people, you're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're all working on something. We're all trying to figure

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Speaker 2: it out. So you come into the mansion, you meet

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Speaker 2: all these women, they're all beautiful. What's your first kind

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I've always had issues with women

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Speaker 3: because I've always First of all, I was raised as

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Speaker 3: I really never had to share or really get along

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Speaker 4: So girls always picked on me. I got beat up.

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Speaker 3: I had lots of you know, bullying. They would put

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Speaker 3: I was feature twirler, I was Miss Ohio and.

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Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: So I have fear intrepidation of women. I much rather

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Speaker 3: work with men. Women scare the shit out of me

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Speaker 3: because they're vicious. They can be vicious, let's put it

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Speaker 3: that way. So when I I came here, I really

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Speaker 3: didn't know what to think. And I had seen some

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Speaker 3: of the episodes of the younger Bachelor shows, and I

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Speaker 3: saw those young girls going at each other like you know.

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Speaker 4: Little coyotes, baby coyotes.

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Speaker 3: Ah, And I was pleasantly surprised at how nice everybody

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Speaker 3: that was another aspect of me going there are nice girls.

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Speaker 4: Oh, girls will like me. Oh. If I put myself out.

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Speaker 3: There, good things can happen in relationships with women. So

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Speaker 3: I really didn't know what to expect. I was leary

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Speaker 2: And then when you mean, for the most part, it

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Speaker 2: sounds like most of these women are very kind.

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Speaker 3: They're very, very very nice. They only got nasty after

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Speaker 3: the show was over. That was enlightening to me, and

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Speaker 3: that so you can imagine the few things we touched already,

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Speaker 3: how much internally was going on within each of us,

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Speaker 3: whether they consciously know it or not. I'm a little

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Speaker 3: bit more conscious of it because of my career, but

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Speaker 3: I was watching all of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you mentioned something earlier you were in a

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Speaker 2: blasting went up to like the bunk rooms, right, something

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Speaker 2: that is not a secret, but pretty much most of

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Speaker 2: the people at stay in this house, men or women

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Speaker 2: when they're a contestant. You're living in a bunk and

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Speaker 2: at the start, you're definitely having somebody on the top,

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Speaker 2: you're definitely having somebody at the bottom. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: spread out all over. Who was the wildest, like, okay,

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Speaker 4: I was the wildest.

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Speaker 3: Okay, wildest, Because the wildest I called the ladies that

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Speaker 4: Gary all night.

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Speaker 3: I had those women cracking up, and I'm dancing on

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Speaker 3: the lake in Indiana and the mud and I'm doing

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Speaker 4: It was a blast.

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Speaker 3: And then I got as people got, you know, take

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Speaker 4: Across the whole room. Yeah, we put roses all over them.

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Speaker 3: And when we got a rose, so I really got

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Speaker 3: to be silly and funny. Yeah, and I just loved it,

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Speaker 3: funny anyhow. If I can make you laugh or somebody

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Speaker 2: Oh it's great. So then cameras come off, they leave,

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Speaker 2: mikes come off. This place just gets even more fun

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Speaker 4: Are outd in our room, everybody else went to bed.

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Speaker 2: What room were you in?

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Speaker 3: We were upstairs in that top room. It was the

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Speaker 3: big room with the nice bathroom. But I guess the

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Speaker 3: other ladies complained about us. At this point, I was

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Speaker 3: just happy I was here having the experience. Girls are

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Speaker 3: being nice to me. This is a pretty cool place.

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Speaker 3: The producers treat you like your gods. I mean, they

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Speaker 3: really treat you wonderful. I mean, they can't be any nicer.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so I was having the time of my life.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I guess other people didn't appreciate us

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Speaker 2: I love it it is. It's literally a ct Purney house.

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Speaker 4: Nothing changes even at our age. Nothing change changes.

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Speaker 2: Every in one house. Let them have this common interest

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Speaker 2: in competing for romance, and good things.

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Speaker 4: Happen, aren't you glad? To hear that this will not

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Speaker 4: change when you get older.

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Speaker 2: No, so happy. Well, I have one really one final

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Speaker 2: question for you, April. So obviously the show's over, yes

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Speaker 2: it is. What does life look like now for you?

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Speaker 2: What are you excited about? Oh?

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Speaker 3: God, okay, right now, after seeing the show tonight, I'm

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Speaker 3: rethinking again. The real reason I went. I came to

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Speaker 4: I work part time. I work at a drug addiction center.

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Speaker 4: I do the groups.

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Speaker 3: Also, I'm still doing a few things for The Bachelor,

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Speaker 3: you know, hired someone to help me, and I'm kicking

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Speaker 3: sitting back and seeing where this goes.

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Speaker 2: I once Scott Wise advice. I used to work on

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Speaker 2: the show. They said, use this to enhance the life

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Speaker 2: you already had, change your life completely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what I think I'm doing. I think

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Speaker 3: I have an audition on Tuesday for a podcast through them.

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Speaker 3: And but I also know that people can turn on

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Speaker 3: a dime. They could change their their mind in a minute.

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Speaker 3: So I'm staying grounded in what I have. I have

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Speaker 3: a beautiful home, I have a beautiful house. I'm in Florida.

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Speaker 3: I have a nice little job. I got a nice

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Speaker 3: going to take dance class. Well I was a dancer

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Speaker 3: of my whole life, but I'm going to go back

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Speaker 3: and do that. And falling in love. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how you guys do it, Like the swipe left and

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Speaker 3: right and shit and asking.

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Speaker 4: People out on you know, texting luck. Yeah, it's stupid.

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Speaker 4: I want to hear your voice. I mean, you're not

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Speaker 4: using any of your senses. You're using a finger.

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Speaker 2: It's all physical.

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Speaker 4: I want to hear you know.

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Speaker 3: I want to look in your eyes. I want to

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Speaker 3: hear that voice. I want to, you know, manipulate me.

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Speaker 3: Come on moves, you know, be nice, not oh baby,

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Speaker 3: or send me some stupid hearts. How long does it

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Speaker 3: take you to send a heart like you can do

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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty women in two minutes? Come on,

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Speaker 3: I look stupid, April. Yeah, I mean like, come on, guys,

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Speaker 3: give me.

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Speaker 2: Your additions here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And girls don't.

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Speaker 3: Sleep with everybody right away? No wonder they don't want

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Speaker 3: to marry you. Why should they? Well, God almighty, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is your show. Your show is going to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and love yourself too. And I will say this

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Speaker 3: for anyone who is listening. You are perfect just the

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Speaker 3: long as it doesn't harm anybody. And no matter what, yes,

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Speaker 3: we will harm people, but it's your intention.

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Speaker 4: People.

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Speaker 3: You will be judged inside of your heart, inside of

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Speaker 3: There's a difference in being vicious and an intention. You know,

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Speaker 3: I have no intention to harm anyone.

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the beautiful parts about The Golden Bachelor

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Speaker 2: a lot of people have benefited from this airing on television.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: For years ago, I think we're breaking the glass ceiling.

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Speaker 3: I think there's women and men sitting alone wondering is

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Speaker 3: It doesn't even have to be dating. It could just

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that's worth ending on God bless don't lean in.

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Speaker 3: Don't lean in, baby, you fall in? What's that's the

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Speaker 2: Well, I've got a wife. It's eleven o'clock at night.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to not lean in. I'm about to fall in.

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Speaker 3: Oh good, Yes it is, yes, it is. You can

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Speaker 3: use anything I have. I'm here to share.

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Speaker 2: This has been another episode of the Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 2: We have April here. It's eleven o'clock at night. We're

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Speaker 2: getting ready to go home. Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for giving us your time. It means a

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Time is the only non replaceable

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Speaker 3: thing that we have. We can never replace time.

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Speaker 2: So resource that we don't get back exactly.

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Speaker 4: So with that, the bell is this.

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Speaker 2: Is famous podcast and I've been Ben. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you next time.

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