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Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 2: Invented live streaming during the NFL tram. Welcome to another

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Speaker 2: edition of Around the NFL, the podcast that has everything

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Speaker 2: concerning the twenty twenty three NFL Draft covered and doing

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Speaker 2: it in an innovative manner.

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Speaker 1: As you just heard there the zum drop.

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Speaker 2: Dan Hans is here, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal scattered across

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles, but bringing all the coverage needs here.

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Speaker 3: Hey boys, you know, most podcasts I think would just

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Speaker 3: like kick back and relax after we broke as many

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Speaker 3: barriers as we did. It's like, I don't know, it's

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: I feel like my physical body is still sort of

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Speaker 4: in recovery mode from that live stream, but you know,

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Speaker 4: we're here. I'm uncomfortable. I'm sitting in a chair. What

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Speaker 2: Yeah, once they got you know, once I got to

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Speaker 2: after the heat wave that struck that specific studio, I

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Speaker 2: was able to reflect upon what was a very successful

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Speaker 2: Thursday for our podcast. The live stream did really really

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Speaker 2: good numbers and showed that you guys, the listeners are

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Speaker 2: interested in that experience when it comes to our show.

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Speaker 2: So that is something we have filed away for future

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Speaker 2: use potentially. And of course you knew we were going

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Speaker 2: to bring in the podcast Goodness as well on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: And now Saturday comes as the draft comes to an end.

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Speaker 2: Seven rounds in the book, roughly seven hundred more compensatory

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Speaker 2: picks in the books. And now we break down a

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Speaker 2: draft that Greg, I know you're a big fan. I

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Speaker 2: know you see it as potentially now problematic, but at

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Speaker 2: the same time, it's got some juice to it. It's

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Speaker 2: got your brand connected to it. The trades tsunami forty

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Speaker 2: one trades by last count connected to this draft, which

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Speaker 2: is a new record. So GM's are more brash than

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Speaker 2: ever when it comes to wheeling and dealing and this

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Speaker 3: I like it, but I also don't want to hear

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Speaker 3: I would never give up a fourth round pick for

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Speaker 3: Stefan Gilmour, Like, who would do that? Then we get

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Speaker 3: into the draft and the Patriots are like trading multiple

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Speaker 3: and no one gives a shit.

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Speaker 1: Whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa Whoahoa. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to that. Why would nobody give this is exactly what

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying they don't care about the pics. It's

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Speaker 5: not about the kickers.

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Speaker 3: I just mean, Okay, the Saints then just they have

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Speaker 3: these picks for a guy no one was gonna take.

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Speaker 3: Probably anyways, just like once they get here, they lose

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Speaker 4: It is the straight like a strange hoarding event inside

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Speaker 4: to your point, from the boundaries outside the draft, where

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: So We're going to go through, as we do every year,

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Speaker 2: the winners and losers of the twenty twenty three NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: And I was thinking about when I was going through

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Speaker 1: To best handle it. I feel weird about really getting after.

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Speaker 2: Draft classes where it's like, oh, that guy was a

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Speaker 2: seems like a fool's errand to try to really guess

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Speaker 2: how these draft classes are going to play. But also

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Speaker 2: a team or how things were handled. I know, Mark,

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Speaker 2: and so we're gonna share some winners and losers, and

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Speaker 2: we are you are going to share that, right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's a tease in the industry. Right.

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Speaker 3: My list is mostly winners, Like I have an article

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Speaker 3: just made it winners of the NFL Draft. You like

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Speaker 2: Well said exactly, So we'll give you. We'll try to

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Speaker 2: A broad sense, the AFC South, I think the AFC

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Speaker 2: Now we already had Trevor Lawrence and a rising operation

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think you know, it was a year

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Speaker 3: I'm totally selfish in that there's no way that these

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Speaker 3: You know, there were all these little receivers that were

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Speaker 5: And so both of these.

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Speaker 3: more fun that there's like a point to them this year.

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Speaker 2: Is there a team that's a bigger wild card at

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Speaker 2: we don't need to go through the quarterbacks again, but

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Speaker 2: not forget what Jonathan Taylor did in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 2: Think about that offensive line that was seen as like this,

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Speaker 1: What if that comes back together? You know, if.

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Speaker 2: Richardson hits the ground running, watch out. This team could

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so AFC South, you got some juice.

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Speaker 3: But they think they're gonna be good and they sort

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Speaker 3: The more time I've had to think about that trade,

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Speaker 2: Then That's what I'm talking about with I don't like

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Speaker 2: winners and losers exercises with the draft, Well, we just

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Speaker 2: don't know yet because Will Anderson could be an absolute

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Speaker 2: Regarding the Colts, one other thing that's like, keep an

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Speaker 1: I'll leave it there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Ersa seems to bubble up the most when

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Speaker 5: I mean, we shall Levis.

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Speaker 3: The Levis tweet he sent out before round two was

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Speaker 5: You know, the day of round two.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if he was trying to mess

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Speaker 3: nothing important, but while we're in the AMC South, we should.

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Speaker 2: Think he crossed the rubicon. Greg, That's my I'm wondering

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Speaker 5: What was that? Maybe he was trying I want it

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Speaker 3: He didn't want the Titans to take Levis, uh, and

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Speaker 3: the Titans did, and the Titans traded up for him.

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Speaker 3: Like I think that made sense that for where the

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Speaker 3: Levis a similar prospect to Ryan Tannehill.

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Speaker 5: It does make you just curious to watch.

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Speaker 3: They're a team we'll talk about plenty in August because

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Speaker 6: There is what's up justin We'll also talk about them

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Speaker 6: a lot because of me. Right, Well, it's your an accident.

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Speaker 2: Because of you and that rotating Titans helmet with your

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Speaker 1: I just love it.

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Speaker 6: Justin thanks.

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Speaker 6: I feel like, if will Levis is a franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 6: it's a home run draft and nothing else matters. If

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Speaker 6: will Evis sucks. The fact that they came out of

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Speaker 6: Maybe they you know, went with his best player available.

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Speaker 5: So overrated two lane guys don't need acls.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hopefully, I hope it works out. Like I think

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Speaker 6: you can't go into next year's draft like so committed

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Speaker 6: to Will Levis because you don't know what he is

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Speaker 1: So that's right.

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Speaker 2: I'm at, let's stick a pin in the Titans tuck.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to get back to them a little

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Speaker 4: I will This to me came into full view during

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Speaker 4: Day two of the draft, and you know his story.

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Speaker 4: This is not a team that I've wanted to see thrive,

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Speaker 4: He's gonna do it because it's the Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they kind of did also if they had been listening

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Speaker 4: you know, I've already been down this road. Just if

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Speaker 4: But also Joey Porter fell to them appropriately. They made

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Speaker 4: I think that the New York Jets probably wanted right

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Speaker 4: One of the most fascinating players in the draft to

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Speaker 4: me from a physical trades perspective, is Darnell Washington six

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Speaker 4: Danny's not probably going to fulfill the quest that you

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Speaker 1: But can you.

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Speaker 4: Imagine being like a smaller cornerback trying to take down

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Speaker 4: from Kenny Pickett. I just kind of like, compared to

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Speaker 4: where the Steelers offense post Big Ben seemed like it

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Speaker 4: when you're in a so called rebuild, I don't think

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Speaker 4: it's not out of control. It's not out of control prediction,

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Speaker 3: They were that team that like kept taking the guy

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Speaker 3: They're so into brothers. It's a little it's a little

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Speaker 1: Calm down a little bit, Yeah, come down with the brothers.

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Speaker 5: Calm down with the Suns.

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Speaker 3: Although it was worth your right taking Joey Porter just

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Speaker 2: I mean they were going to use that photo no matter.

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Speaker 5: Why they wouldn't have Why would they?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, father and son, you know, legacy. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they wouldn't have.

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Speaker 4: The there had a lot to loaded in the truck.

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Speaker 3: Like they they went and got pick it last year

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Speaker 5: I think that's a fun team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we and we talked about the idea of their

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Speaker 2: I feel like when you get late in the third round,

439
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Speaker 2: fourth round, fifth round, start throwing the darts at like guys,

440
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Speaker 2: that could be freaky.

441
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Speaker 1: There you go, it's a good pick. I agree.

442
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Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steeler's got a lot of positive pop, and

443
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 2: I know Sheck was very excited about it. But Sheck

444
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 2: was gonna be excited no matter what. Let's face it, winner, Greg.

445
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Speaker 3: I'll throw out a winner. Let's go Jordan Love. Let's

446
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,679
Speaker 3: go Mark Sessler too. You know, the Packers and Goody

447
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 3: making Mark Sessler sandwiches, making Jordan Love happy. I don't

448
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 3: think they're they're really making Aaron Rodgers upset by taking

449
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 3: a bunch of second and third round like tight ends

450
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Speaker 3: and receivers. But if that's a small bonus, something tells

451
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 3: me Rogers isn't too plugged into like Day three, Day

452
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 3: two of the Packers draft. But Luke Musgrave in the

453
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Speaker 3: second round pass catching tight end who I didn't love

454
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Speaker 3: just because he looks so upright, like how could he

455
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 3: not get hurt? And he spent a lot of his

456
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 3: college getting hurt. But smarter people than me, like land

457
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 3: Zierlin like thought, you know he's as explosive and DJ

458
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 3: liked him too as any tight end in the draft.

459
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Speaker 3: You took a receiver, Jayden Reid also in the second round,

460
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 3: and then they took Tucker Craft, so they just like

461
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 3: went three straight receivers.

462
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Speaker 5: Tucker Craft's a tight end as well, but.

463
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Speaker 3: He was a guy from South Dakota State who I

464
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 3: did get a chance to watch it, Like Greg Cosell

465
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 3: could not stop gushing about as a Dallas Godder type

466
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Speaker 3: of clone. So they're building their team in a certain way.

467
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Speaker 3: I think it was interesting that they went they doubled

468
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Speaker 3: up a tight end specifically. I think they're going to

469
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Speaker 3: be a run based team with a lot of aj

470
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Speaker 3: Dillon and a lot of two tight end sets, a

471
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Speaker 3: lot of Aaron Jones, and I just like that. Yes,

472
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Speaker 3: you took Lucas van Ness, which was such a Packers

473
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Speaker 3: pick in the first round, but you didn't overlook Love

474
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Speaker 3: and then you knew Sessler had Sandwiches on the line,

475
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Speaker 3: so you took another receiver in the fifth round, don

476
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Speaker 3: Tavian Wicks.

477
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Speaker 5: That's the man.

478
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Speaker 2: That's why I didn't That's why I didn't take the

479
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Speaker 2: pick because it was Nebulos.

480
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Speaker 1: Oh wait, and another one was somebody.

481
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Speaker 3: Coming lay in the round two fifty six, Round seven,

482
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Speaker 3: pick thirty nine, I missed that one too. Chevy's own

483
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Speaker 3: granted both, so they went way over for and yeah,

484
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Speaker 3: You're you're bound a hit one.

485
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Speaker 4: It's I can only imagine that these sandwich props that

486
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 4: we boil up are massive talking points inside various team

487
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Speaker 4: buildings and probably triggering thought processes. So I'm with you

488
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Speaker 4: that they were listening to that. But I you know

489
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Speaker 4: what I think about like Matt Lafleur, who for his

490
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Speaker 4: entire run in Green Bay and it's been successful outside

491
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Speaker 4: of January. I mean, you kind of were under held

492
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Speaker 4: hostage to do exactly what Aaron Rodgers wanted to do

493
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Speaker 4: on offense.

494
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Speaker 1: Right.

495
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Speaker 4: The big part of it was like Aaron Rodgers is

496
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Speaker 4: going to freestyle a little bit, but in general, the

497
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Speaker 4: offense has to be something that he's happy with, that's

498
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Speaker 4: catered around him outside of not drafting picks for him.

499
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Speaker 4: So they went and got a bunch of new guys

500
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Speaker 4: around love, which I mean a just makes sense. They

501
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 4: needed help at these positions. It wasn't like a vanity

502
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Speaker 4: project necessarily, but they went and did it. But I

503
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Speaker 4: think that with the two tight ends and what they

504
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Speaker 4: could do, like maybe Lafleur is a chance to put

505
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 4: a little bit more of a personal stamp on altering

506
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Speaker 4: what they do around a different type of quarterback. So

507
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Speaker 4: for me, the Packers, who've sort of been the same

508
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: thing since like twenty ten and even before that for

509
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Speaker 4: a thousand years with Brett Favre, I'm not sure they'll

510
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Speaker 4: be better. I'm just weirdly more intrigued by them than

511
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 4: I ever have been before, and I feel I like

512
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Speaker 4: the idea of a completely fresh start.

513
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Speaker 2: And stick a pin in that thought, because coming up

514
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Speaker 2: later this week or next week, we'll do our around

515
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: the AFC and NFC in forty eight minutes and we'll

516
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Speaker 2: kind of dig into the post mortem of the draft

517
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Speaker 2: and looking ahead of what.

518
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Speaker 1: Things mean for these teams.

519
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Speaker 2: All Right, we got more winners to get to, a

520
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: couple losers to get to, but first to break. All right,

521
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Speaker 2: we're back, all right, GREGI how about a winner?

522
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Speaker 5: All right, let's go a Lions. They had a weird Thursday.

523
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Speaker 1: Let's just be real.

524
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Speaker 3: I heard some speculation from a couple places that they

525
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 3: were a little bit like the fantasy draft, you know,

526
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 3: manager at pick six that's spun out, because they totally

527
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Speaker 3: expected the whole time to take Devin Witherspoon. No one

528
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Speaker 3: thought the Seahawks were taking Devin Witherspoon. It just felt

529
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Speaker 3: like a chock pick. And then suddenly you're trading out

530
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Speaker 3: not getting good value at all. From going six to twelve.

531
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Speaker 3: If you look to the trade jar and you take

532
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Speaker 3: Jamir Gibbs there, I like the Jack Campbell pick. Fine,

533
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: he definitely fits in need, maybe as a higher ceiling.

534
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 3: But after day one, and this is what happens when

535
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Speaker 3: you're Brad Holmes and you just stack all these picks,

536
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Speaker 3: you're gonna end up looking good. I mean, they had

537
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Speaker 3: six picks in the first three rounds and the next

538
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Speaker 3: four to me were really intriguing. Brian Branch, who they

539
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 3: traded up to get ahead of the Patriots. Maybe the

540
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Speaker 3: Patriots were taking Brian Branch. He just felt like a

541
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Speaker 3: Patriots player like Nick Sabans. Binky just can do everything,

542
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: kind of a Chauncey Gardner Johnson type. And they have

543
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 3: Chauncey Gardner Johnson already there, but man, that secondary is versatile.

544
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Speaker 3: He's gonna be smart, he's gonna be there forever. They

545
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Speaker 3: took my favorite tight end in the draft in terms

546
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 3: of like a value in Sam Laporta, but I don't

547
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Speaker 3: even know if it's a value anymore because they took

548
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Speaker 3: him over Michael Mayer, which is kind of wild. But

549
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 3: man Laporta is athletic, and it's too easy to compare

550
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 3: him to Kittle because he's from Iowa. But I just

551
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: think he's going to be a big playmaker. And then

552
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: you wait for Hendon Hooker until the third round, and

553
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: at that point, like that to me was the perfect

554
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Speaker 3: spot to do it. I know he's it's crazy. He's

555
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: only three years younger than Jared Goff, who's been in

556
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: the league for eight years and has started a hundred games.

557
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: But I still like the idea of having a young

558
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: quarterback to develop. But when you take him in the

559
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: third round, it's like not as much pressure that he's

560
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: got to play anytime soon. If he just turns into

561
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Speaker 3: a backup, who cares, that's fine. You just put spend

562
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Speaker 3: a third round pick on it. So I kind of

563
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Speaker 3: like what the Lions did if you add up all

564
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Speaker 3: the three rounds and put it together. I mean, these

565
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 3: are guys who are going to play for them, so

566
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Speaker 3: there's still a team. Because Homes set this up so

567
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: well with all these picks that got a lot better

568
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Speaker 3: with six picks in the first three rounds, And I

569
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Speaker 3: kind of like that he's doing things differently. He's not

570
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Speaker 3: worried about the draft Cognacenti.

571
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Speaker 4: I think it's like really easy for especially those of

572
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 4: us that you jump onto the draft process a little

573
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 4: bit later, and we're valuing positional need and positions in

574
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 4: general over the players sometimes and like that. I think

575
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 4: that contributed to their Thursday night looking a little wonky,

576
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 4: and maybe it was, but also, and you know, this

577
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 4: is where Hard Knocks helps a little bit. Like one

578
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 4: of my big takeaways coming out of Hard Knocks was like,

579
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Speaker 4: wait a minute, this coaching staff is, for the first

580
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 4: time that I can remember in Lion's history, is forward thinking.

581
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Speaker 4: They they've shown they can develop players really well. So

582
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Speaker 4: I thought what they did over Day two and Day

583
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Speaker 4: three really just galvanized a roster that's already like a

584
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Speaker 4: playoff level roster. And if and the one little thing

585
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 4: is like Hendon Hooker is got a lot less of

586
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 4: attention because of the injuries, a little bit older. But

587
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 4: if that pick worked out and they fell in love

588
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: with him and he replaced Jared Goff, and did that

589
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 4: kind of seamlessly. A season from now, this draft looks

590
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Speaker 4: incredible because if you suddenly hit on a later round quarterback,

591
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Speaker 4: you look absolutely genius.

592
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: I don't know Greg about Wines running a back his

593
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: team around the NFL, but they remain.

594
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Speaker 1: Highly juicy, lot of heat around Detroit.

595
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Speaker 3: I would, I would do it, and it's it's despite

596
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 3: being public number enemy number one on Twitter today because

597
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 3: I sent some tweet about their backfield and Lions Twitter

598
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: was not happy. I was basically like I said, Jamir

599
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 3: Gibbs and David Montgomery, you know, because we'll get to

600
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Speaker 3: the DeAndre Swift trader.

601
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Speaker 5: I guess we can mention it now. They traded DeAndre

602
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Speaker 5: Swift for.

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Speaker 1: We will get to it in one moment week a little.

604
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Speaker 3: Later, but for not watch And I just said, like,

605
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: Gibbs in Montgomery, isn't that much better than Jamal Williams

606
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Speaker 3: and Swift.

607
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Speaker 5: I think that's fair.

608
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 3: Like they're probably better, and if Gibbs turns into a

609
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: huge hit, then they're a lot better. But I'm just

610
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: assuming some picks work, some picks don't. I'm not a

611
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: big David Montgomery fan. That was one of my least

612
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: favorite signings of the offseason. To me, that's a wash

613
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 3: with Jamal Williams, and it's just like you spent a

614
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 3: lot of resources to kind of kind of upgrade your

615
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 3: backfield when you were really productive as a running team anyway,

616
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: So that was it. But I got I am getting

617
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 3: severely ratioed to high head and someone what texted me

618
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: about it and I wasn't aware, and it's something.

619
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Speaker 2: That is I think there's also sometimes when those things happen,

620
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: the fan base knows it too, and they're just defensive

621
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: about it because they just wanted to be and Gibbs,

622
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: like kind of the point guys were making about Bijeon

623
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 2: with Atlanta on Thursday night. I think for that to

624
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Speaker 2: make sense, like Gibbs has to be a monster, like

625
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: he has to be a stud, and David Montgomery has

626
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: to be healthy and work in another a really nice

627
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: complimentary way. But I think it really goes back to

628
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: you if you're going to use that. Everybody can talk

629
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Speaker 2: about it, Oh finally running backs getting respect in the

630
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: first round, sure, but you it has to be he

631
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: can't be good, he has to be great, or you

632
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: should have focused I think on using getting your roster

633
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: better in other places and that's a neat seg to

634
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Speaker 2: one of my losers.

635
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Speaker 1: We mentioned that, we.

636
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: Mentioned quickly there that they did make the move sending

637
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: the talented, injury prone running back DeAndre Swift to the

638
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: Eagles for a fourth round pick.

639
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Speaker 5: I believe it was five, yeah, two years ago.

640
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: And you know that in addition to their big Thursday

641
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: Night where they brought in two defenders who are highly valued,

642
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: Nolan Smith and Jalen Carter. Bringing those two gentlemen in

643
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: and including all these other Georgia players that are entering

644
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: the Fray over the last two years.

645
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Here's Peter Schrager.

646
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: Late in the telecast on Saturday about something he heard

647
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: regarding embittered general managers across the landscape.

648
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Speaker 4: Oh, I love this.

649
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 5: I talked to all the gms around the league. There

650
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 5: is a little bit.

651
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 4: Of like a all right, guys, everyone, you here's enough with.

652
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: The Howie Rosemark the girls. There's a little bit of

653
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: that too.

654
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: That that this is like a media just showering all

655
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Speaker 3: the Eagles.

656
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Speaker 1: Did anyone in the Super Bowl? The teams in the NFC, you.

657
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: Know, like there is there is a competitive nature amongst

658
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: these other teams that this Eagle squad has been getting

659
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: at a Howie mother, And you know, I'll give Daniel

660
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: Jeremiah who you know, I got to give him. The

661
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: whole crew on NFL Network did great, including Jeremiah throughout

662
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: the weekend, and Daniel forty two of his fifty top

663
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: fifty on his big board. Forty two came off the

664
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Speaker 2: board in the first fifty picks, which I really think.

665
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Speaker 1: His I hate saying this, guys, but.

666
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: Jeremiah's become such a titan in this industry that I

667
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: really think he's now able to kind of affect things

668
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: on some level because gms and front offices care about

669
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: what Daniel Jeremiah thinks. But he quickly responded to Schrager's

670
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: reporting there or the conversations he had by saying, well,

671
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: how about this. And we know, by the way, DJ

672
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: has Eagles ties as well, so he was going to

673
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: be a little jumpy on it. But still he says,

674
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: I want to hear, go to those gms that you

675
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: talk to and look at the Eagles roster and then

676
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: look at that GM's roster and ask him if they

677
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: would trade if they could, and then see how the

678
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 2: conversation ends after that. I just got a it is

679
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: a little the waterfall of celebration of Rosen, but he

680
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: kind of earns it. And I think what he was

681
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: able to do with Carter and Smith they won. And

682
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: then the DeAndre Swift trade is the exact type of

683
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: move that you want your GM to make, and he

684
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: does that all the time. I feel like he makes

685
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: those common sense moves to bring in players that have

686
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: a lot of upside at a good cost. And here's

687
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: an example of why he is so good. He brings

688
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: in he gives up that fourth round pick, and if

689
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift, when his contract runs up, leaves the team

690
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: next year, they can get a fourth round compensatory pick back.

691
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: So it becomes him essentially taking on DeAndre Swift, who

692
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: is absolutely a monster when healthy and in the right offense,

693
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: and he's not even giving up anything. And don't get

694
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: mad because your GM doesn't think to do the same thing.

695
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: I totally agree. And it's like it was a year

696
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 4: ago that, without a lot of pre whispering around this,

697
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 4: he pulls off the aj Brown trade that completely changes

698
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 4: the development of Jalen Hurts, changes the other offense entirely,

699
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 4: and it's like, Okay, Hoe Roseman is doing it year

700
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: after year, there's a consistency to their front office, and

701
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 4: they went through a post Doug Peterson rebuild that took

702
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 4: what fourteen days. I mean, there was no dark ages

703
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: for them. They turn around, change who they were, developed

704
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 4: a quarterback and did it very quickly. So I do

705
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 4: think that in general, it reminds me when we were

706
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 4: at the Combine a couple of years ago and that

707
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: like coaches Hotness Rankings list came out and yet a

708
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: bunch of coaches grumbling about it because certain guys always

709
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 4: get ranked high on that kind of a list by

710
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: the subjective eye of many thinking this guy's hot or not,

711
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: And like there's people just grumbling. It's kind of the

712
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: same thing, like they do listen to this. I think

713
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 4: the one thing you kind of just start to hear

714
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 4: is like these guys read, listen to everything, follow Twitter.

715
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 4: They know that the temperature out there and there probably

716
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 4: is sort of a consensus that Howie Roseman's a little

717
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: over celebrated, but no one logically could break it down

718
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: and say he isn't being celebrated for the right reasons

719
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 4: because he is. Because I think a year ago, like

720
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: Les Snead was like this guy's changing the way the

721
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: NFL works, and people are going to start to do

722
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 4: things like the rams, then the rams fall off. A

723
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 4: cliff who's talking about less sneed is still a very

724
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: talented general manager, but he's not the sheic guy to

725
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: discuss right now. It is Howie Roseman, And so if

726
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: people are talking about you, that's the best thing. That's

727
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: the best indicator that you're succeeding and damaging their goals.

728
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: Right, the best they could come up with, Oh, he

729
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: didn't win the Super Bowl, sorry, like they scored thirty

730
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: five points in a holding call prevented them from going

731
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: after it one more drive. I think I've always gotten

732
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: the sense. I mean, people in the NFL don't love

733
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: Howie Roseman because he's a short, non next player, different

734
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: background from a lot of front offices, and he's been

735
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: killing it.

736
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Speaker 5: And so there's a lot of football guys it's short.

737
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: Sure, I was.

738
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: Gonna go with his background in general is just different.

739
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 3: Let's just say that is that, you know, all that

740
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 3: is different than a lot of the people running teams.

741
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of football guys who who kind

742
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: of see that, and they see the analytics department there too,

743
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: as a threat and they kept the Georgia thing going.

744
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: Kelly Ringo there, Kelley Ringo their fourth round pick up cornerback.

745
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: Is if you go and look at like the preseason,

746
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: like who's gonna get taken in the top twenty picks,

747
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: top ten picks, he was all over that and he

748
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: fell in the draft for various reasons. But it's like

749
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: they take another Georgia guy who with a lot of

750
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 3: talent at least that was kind of a boom er

751
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: bust guy, and they get him late.

752
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 5: They got value everywhere.

753
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: Listen to this Georgia tidbit. A little over nine percent

754
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: of the Eagles roster this year will be players drafted

755
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: from Georgia in the last two years.

756
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: Five out of fifty three.

757
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 2: And by the way, that is funny and a little weird,

758
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: but also like they like that program. That's a successful program.

759
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: They so they see it as a football factory that

760
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: the trust. And again it's kind of like not to

761
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: dumb it down or flatten it, but it's like they

762
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: have a process. He has a process, and sometimes you

763
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: wish like your general manager would think this way as well.

764
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: Like how do I make my team better?

765
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 2: Oh, use the college program that pumps out consistently star

766
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: defensive players. Oh, DeAndre Swift, he could be had at

767
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: a very cheap price, and he he's from Jodover Miles

768
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: sand Sanders Like yeah, oh my god, you're right, Like,

769
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: I'll bring him in. I'll take him in. Oh if

770
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: I do this the right way, I could even actually

771
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: kind of get him for free. And I'm only paying

772
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: him like one point seven to seven million this season.

773
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: It's like awesome.

774
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 5: So it's della be a nightmare for fantasy. Just stay

775
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 5: away there.

776
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: You were shot by any Kenneth Gainwell and DeAndre Swift, Like,

777
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: I get it, Lions fans. DeAndre Swift will frustrate you

778
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: going for the big play and he's gonna get hurt

779
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 3: a lot, and he's an inconsistent player, but his numbers

780
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: speak for themselves.

781
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 5: He's very effective per touch.

782
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: But between him gain one penny, it's like they'll all

783
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 3: get hurt, but they'll all take turns being good.

784
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: People sometimes sleep on howies too, just in general. And

785
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: I know I know some howies and I know I

786
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: know howes on both ends of the spectrum, like wildly

787
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: impressive howies, and some howes are like very much like

788
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: Well I don't know about that howie. He's on the

789
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: positive end. Yeah, high variants, but he's one of the

790
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: good howies.

791
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: Is that what you're referring to? No, I didn't think so.

792
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: All right, go on, how about you, Mark, What do

793
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: you got? Winner loser? Throw it out there.

794
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 4: Here's a team that I've been real tough on for

795
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: the last year, the Cleveland Browns, and I think that

796
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 4: this is a team that like basically had no draft capital,

797
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: obviously because of Deshaun Watson. And that's the big question

798
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: mark hanging out there, like what version of that player

799
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: do you get this season after selling your soul for

800
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 4: this quarterback? But one of the reasons they didn't have

801
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: an extra pick this time around was because they went

802
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 4: and got Elijah Moore. There is some projection here, but

803
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: if Elijah Moore were out alongside of Mary Cooper and

804
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 4: Donovan People's jones, I liked what they did After reading

805
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: about this pick more and more. That gets Cedric Tilden,

806
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 4: the wide receiver out of Tennessee's one of the bigger

807
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: guys in the draft, sort of an archetypal X guy

808
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 4: who I think fits with Amary Cooper and fits in

809
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: that it suddenly that was a weakness last year. The

810
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: wide receiver group was a weakness. They also were a

811
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 4: team that were real soft up the middle of their defense,

812
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: and they brought in Jim Schwartz as their coordinator, which

813
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 4: I liked the coordinator switch in general. That was a

814
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 4: problem all last year. But they were getting run on easy.

815
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 4: I mean, there just was nothing in the middle. And

816
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 4: they went and got Dalvin Tomlinson in free agency, but

817
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 4: then drafted this guy, Siaki Ika, who is absolutely massive.

818
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: He is like a three hundred and thirty five pound

819
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: front door.

820
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: Now.

821
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: I don't know what else he's gonna do for you

822
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 4: in general, but it's kind of like described as a

823
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: guy that makes things easier for other people around him.

824
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: And so this guy, along with Tomlinson gives you that's

825
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 4: sort of what Jim Schwartz wants in the middle of

826
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 4: his defense. So I like that. And then they went

827
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 4: and got Dwan Jones the offensive tackle because Jedrick Wills,

828
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 4: I think it's a real question market left tackle that

829
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 4: did not work out post Joe Thomas the way that

830
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 4: they've wanted, and I think this is a big season

831
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 4: for him and Dwan Jones down at a number one

832
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 4: hund and eleven is we'll see if he can play.

833
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 4: But if he did, and you got an offensive tackle

834
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 4: right there, it's another potential need. And so without a

835
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: lot of draft capital, I thought Andrew Berry, after a

836
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 4: kind of a rough year, put together a good draft

837
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 4: with what their resources were.

838
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 5: I had them down as a winner too.

839
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 3: Totally agree, partly because I'm just I did my wide

840
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 3: receiver rankings on Twitter, really making people talk, making people think,

841
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 3: and Cedric Tillman was very high on that list.

842
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 5: I loved his tape.

843
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: He just looks like a guy who I'd rather have

844
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: than all these little receivers that were taken in this

845
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: draft that I think can be productive.

846
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 5: I had him as the fourth receiver.

847
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: And I kind of liked that they took Dorian Thompson

848
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: Robinson too, a pretty much the consensus QB six in

849
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 3: this draft, who has a lot of good tape out there.

850
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: Fifth round, you maybe get a back up quarterback who

851
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 3: knows you know sewn well, I guess you're stuck with

852
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: the Shawn Watson Forever.

853
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: De Shaun Watson was on Twitter spaces.

854
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: He did an interview this week end, it appears, and

855
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,479
Speaker 2: he had the quote, you can't define my career off

856
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 2: of six games, and went on to talk about how

857
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: he sees the Browns as a team that could sneak

858
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: up and surprise a lot of people the way the

859
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: Eagles did last year.

860
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: We shall see, but yeah, there's a obviously a big year. Yeah.

861
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 4: He also at one point, I don't know if it

862
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 4: was on this space's Q and A, but at one

863
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: point over the last three or four days, talked about

864
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 4: the fact that Elijah Mora Elijah Moore to escape the

865
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 4: toxic culture in New York. It's like, who are we, like,

866
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 4: can we maybe chill out on describing cultures and teams

867
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: right now?

868
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 5: Watson?

869
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll let his comments stand on their own on that.

870
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: Right, they did, They did get better without a ton

871
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: of like easy resources. I think Daywon Jones is as

872
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: a freak of nature too. How how how big that

873
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: dude is. So it's a fair It's a good enough

874
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: point by Watson that you can't judge like I've been

875
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: killing him based on those six games. Those six games

876
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: were so much worse than any six games he had

877
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: ever played ever, like in college or the pros. As

878
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: a six games table that I think it's it's truly concerning,

879
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 3: but it's also fair to point out, like you can't

880
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: judge his entire career off of that, and we'll see.

881
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 5: I think they've set him up to succeed.

882
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: Mark, Do you have another one?

883
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 4: I have a loser for now, because you know, I

884
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 4: think there was some buzz around DeAndre Hopkins leaving a

885
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 4: terrible situation in Arizona. I think it can still happen,

886
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 4: but kind of every time Rap Sheep talks about it,

887
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 4: it's like it's not about to happen. There's nothing really

888
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 4: on the horizon. I thought there was a world where

889
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 4: he became like a Patriots wide receiver this weekend or

890
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 4: somewhere else, and it's not come to fruition. And right now,

891
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 4: if you're DeAndre Hopkins, or you're or anyone on that offense,

892
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 4: your career is just put on hold. You don't have

893
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray. I don't love that team in general. I

894
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 4: think it's probably the worst roster in the league. And

895
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 4: you've got a truly star wide out that someone's gonna

896
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: want at some point, but he's tough to trade, and

897
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: he's tough to trade for. Even the Cardinals we talked

898
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 4: about this because they don't get a lot for it.

899
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 4: I know they probably want to move on from him

900
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 4: just for the sake of it. But there's stuck pain

901
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 4: so much of his salary that I think it maybe

902
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: wasn't as easy a trade like to finesse this weekend,

903
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 4: and so we sort of stuck in abstentia wondering what

904
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 4: will happen with his twenty twenty three season.

905
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 3: I do, Yeah, I think veteran trades in general was

906
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: like a loser. You know, Hopkins, Dalvin Cook, Zadaria Smith, Derrick, Henry, Ryan, Tannehill,

907
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: Mac Jones, Trey Lance, Courtland Sutton, Jerry Judy, like all

908
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: these guys you thought maybe could go. Not much really happened,

909
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 3: Like the swift move came up during the draft and

910
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: then happened quickly. Some of those guys, I think maybe

911
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: one of the Broncos receivers and maybe Hopkins could make

912
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: sense in August. The others I'm not sure about. I

913
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: think that more most of those guys will probably just

914
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: stave at this point. Yeah, I don't think Hopkins or

915
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: a guy like that's gonna get moved. That said, I

916
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: think the Cardinals were winners weren't they They loaded up

917
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: on picks for twenty like they did a nice job

918
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: moving around the board where they sort of won each

919
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 3: one of those trades. And they have two first round

920
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: picks including the Texans next year, two third round picks,

921
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: like they loaded up for next year. I think they

922
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: did a good job without really losing any picks this year.

923
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: Still makes sense to trade Hopkins, I would think, though, Yeah,

924
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: I think I don't know if it's because of his

925
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: is his market? Sometimes we see a veteran and we

926
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: assume he as a market and then it turns out

927
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: he doesn't.

928
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: Is that really the case?

929
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: Like, is this gonna end with Howie Roseman trading for

930
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins and giving up a fifth round pick?

931
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like there just has to

932
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: be value. And I know they came out even strong.

933
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: And last Thursday and on Thursday night and said, you know,

934
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: he wasn't going anywhere, But I don't know, Maybe I

935
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: still think the shoe could drop there.

936
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: Well.

937
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 4: I think also once once we get players back on

938
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 4: the field and a couple injuries hit here and there

939
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 4: are a lot of the veterans that Greg mentioned might

940
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 4: become more feasible to move, Greg, I would agree with

941
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: you that I think that if you're the Cardinals or

942
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: you're a Cardinals fan, you got to put this year

943
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 4: and on hold and look at it through a different lens.

944
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 4: And at least they loaded up for next year. And

945
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 4: this is a this is a tank season. They're not

946
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: going to call it that. We're not allowed to say that.

947
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 4: But if there's a chance Kyler Murray doesn't even play

948
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 4: this year, if they don't want, what's the worth to

949
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: playing him if he's coming off this injury. So it's

950
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 4: like it could be a complete mail in job. But

951
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 4: then you've loaded up for next offseason.

952
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something pff move. Timo Risk on Twitter, you know,

953
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: posted this chart of trade value gained in the draft,

954
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: and the Cardinals actually even passed the Bears in terms

955
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: of how much surplus like money and value that they

956
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 3: picked up, even though the Bears traded down from one

957
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 3: and those two teams were let's see, about three and

958
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: a half times more than any other team in the league.

959
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: So they just put they've got a ton of resources.

960
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: And they didn't do it by like getting rid of

961
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: this draft either. They filled needs and took some good

962
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: players in this draft too, So I like that they

963
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 3: are setting up for the tank and that Texans pick. Man,

964
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're gonna be rooting against the Texans

965
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: and hoping like that that's a top five pick two

966
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: next year.

967
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: There's always one trade or two trades that you go

968
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: into the ensuing season like keep an eye on that

969
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: and what that can do to the draft board. That

970
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: is certainly the case they you go, Cardinals fans, you

971
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: know it's been there's some negativity or a critical discussion

972
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: of your team on the show in recent weeks and months.

973
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: But nice weekend. There we go. The sun will come out.

974
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 2: Maybe not tomorrow, sun will come out in like two

975
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: years something like that.

976
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: It's all right, all right, take a break and we'll

977
00:44:47,560 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: keep going. Welcome back. You know, we gotta go to

978
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: the kicker club. We gotta go.

979
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: You know why you talk about everybody's talking about the

980
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: running backs getting some respect this year. How about two

981
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: kickers going in the first one hundred and twelve picks

982
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: of this strap, including a kicker going top one hundred,

983
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: both my boys, Chad Ryland. The Patriots traded up to

984
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: get Chad Ryland, moving up eight spots in round four

985
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,959
Speaker 2: to take the Maryland stud.

986
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: With the Jicks.

987
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 5: How do you feel about that? That jet feel grad

988
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 5: with the Patriots.

989
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 2: My love of and supportive the kickers and how important

990
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: they are in our league supersedes.

991
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: Anything, including my own family.

992
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 5: Wow.

993
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: And then Michigan's Jake.

994
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 2: Moody, who was absolutely nails for the Wolverines. He gets

995
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: picked by the Niners, you know, in operation that everyone

996
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: respects in the third round, and it's like, when is

997
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: the last time that happen? I'll tell you what it is,

998
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: the highest a kicker has gone in the draft. Since

999
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: we don't like to bring this name up. It's like,

1000
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: you know, I'm reading the Harry Potter books with the boys.

1001
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 2: I've told you I'm in book two now, and the

1002
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 2: main Baddie the antagonist early in the books, and I'm

1003
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: blanking on his name.

1004
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 1: But he's also known.

1005
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: As Voldemort Valdemort. He's known as the one who shall

1006
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: not be named. We do not like to bring up

1007
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: Roberto Aguaio's name around here. He is the one who

1008
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: shall not be named, the second round pick of the

1009
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: Bucks who was cut after one season. But that's the

1010
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: territory we're in. That the the Niners and it's usually

1011
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: a team that really is satisfied with their roster. And

1012
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: if we're gonna if we're gonna get on the Lions

1013
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: a little bit and be like, hey, or even the Falcons,

1014
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: you had a good running back. Why'd you had a

1015
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: running back? Robbie Gould is a great kicker. He's old,

1016
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: but a great kicker. But they bring in this kid Moody.

1017
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: And here is the here's the phone call from Kyle Shanahan,

1018
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: Niners coach, to Jake Moody when they made him the

1019
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 2: ninety ninth overall pick.

1020
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: Courtesy of the Niners.

1021
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 5: Jake Congrassman, thank you very much.

1022
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: Hey man, you gotta know, you gotta know how high

1023
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: we think of you. Man. We just we didn't take

1024
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: a running back. We spend a third round pick on

1025
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: a kicker. So that shows you how we feel about you, don't.

1026
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: Let's go two funny things there.

1027
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: That's obviously the Niners like a little wink to people

1028
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: who it's a bit of a trope that the Niners

1029
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: just love taking those running backs every year. And I

1030
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: just thought it was funny because my son Jack does it,

1031
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: and all his second year old second grade buddies do

1032
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: it like, whether you're a boy or a competitive athlete

1033
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: in America now and beyond, you just say let's go

1034
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: all the time.

1035
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's go.

1036
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 4: I hear that from my kids.

1037
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: Goop, absolutely, let's go, meg someone, you know, kick one

1038
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: through the rights, Let's go. You're playing, you're watching YouTube,

1039
00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: you find a video you're like, let's go.

1040
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 6: Oh commercial where it's just him saying let's go in

1041
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 6: different ways and in the first like four like let's go,

1042
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 6: and the last one is like let's go, and it's

1043
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 6: some like car Rental commercial.

1044
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go is really it is what a pro

1045
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: culture right all the way down to elementary schools is

1046
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: dominated by let's go. But anyway back to it, big

1047
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 2: day for kickers when you get too in the top

1048
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: one twelve, and I like both picks. I do think

1049
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: it's just interesting San Francisco would had one of the

1050
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: best veteran incumbents and use the third round pick and

1051
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: a guy that I guess he'll be better, but you

1052
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: don't know.

1053
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 4: And it was a couple episodes that we each announced

1054
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: like our guys in the draft, and I'd already picked

1055
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 4: Joey Porter, Greg, you took Taj Spears and Dan, you

1056
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: took Jake Moody, so you're your guy. Obviously, the NFL,

1057
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 4: or at least ONEFL team truly felt what you felt.

1058
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 4: I can't say I love the Niners' ability to draft

1059
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 4: much in this draft with what they had given up

1060
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 4: already with the Trey Land Steele. That situation going on

1061
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 4: the tree lance is weird. And I don't mind teams.

1062
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: I think the one thing that I'm funny about the draft,

1063
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, you would never draft a kicker, but

1064
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: then it's like eight out of ten teams seasons go

1065
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 4: totally on the brink when you get into that flux

1066
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 4: where you have to go find kickers off the streets.

1067
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 4: So if you go get the next version of Robbie Gould, like,

1068
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: the Niners are that much more consistent offense. So I

1069
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: don't hate the move if it works out, but I'm

1070
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 4: not I gotta say their draft in general, it's just

1071
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 4: there wasn't a lot of ability for them to be

1072
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 4: to do much and it's just kind of a low walk.

1073
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 4: If you look at the two teams in the NFC

1074
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 4: title game, like what the Eagles did in this draft

1075
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 4: and what the Niners were able to do. It's vastly different, right.

1076
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: I just think it's funny you said that, Mark, I

1077
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: go get the next version of Robbie Gold.

1078
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: You literally had Robbie Gold and I know.

1079
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 4: How old, because he's old. He's like what forty something.

1080
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't mean statistically, I didn't see a

1081
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: lot of slippage. I don't think he's ever missed a

1082
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 2: field goal in the playoffs ever.

1083
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's a.

1084
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 3: Little crazy that, Like, because hackers replaced Mason Crosby, that

1085
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 3: was surprising, or they're gonna try to that was that

1086
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 3: was less surprising.

1087
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 5: That was a six round pick.

1088
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 3: The Patriots drafted a kicker, as you mentioned, they traded up.

1089
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: They have taken some kickers high. They took Goskowski in

1090
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 3: the fourth round. But they traded up for a kicker,

1091
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: and they still had Nick Folk, who was, you know,

1092
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 3: doing well. But both Gold and Folk aren't hitting those bombs.

1093
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: And Kyle Shanahan loves himself. He loves setting up for

1094
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 3: long field goals. Surprisingly, like you think of him as

1095
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: this aggressive guy and he loves kicking field goals.

1096
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 5: But you got to beat out Robbie Gold.

1097
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: I like that.

1098
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: The Patriots also drafted a punter. They drafted a kicker

1099
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 3: and a punter in the same draft with.

1100
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: Robbie Gold's a free agent Gregy he was on the graveyards. Okay,

1101
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: so they just they said, we're moving on. I don't know,

1102
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: maybe there's some more to that story.

1103
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

1104
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't because of the decline, but well,

1105
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 3: he didn't he didn't have he didn't have much range.

1106
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 3: By the way, the Patriots punter, I saw his picture

1107
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: and it's hilarious. Like the last punter they drafted.

1108
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 5: Was didn't you have like.

1109
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: How do I put this white supremacy paraphernalia tattooed on

1110
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 3: his arms? That that didn't go well, kind of short

1111
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: circuit in his career. The guy they drafted this time,

1112
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: total opposite. Looks like he's brewing his own beer and

1113
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: like hosts like a horticulture podcast or something like that.

1114
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 5: I really, I really like this.

1115
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: So the Pats replaced there. They reboot the entire booting games.

1116
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, you want to bring some negativity to

1117
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: the proceedings.

1118
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: Well I don't. I don't want to completely slash the Titans.

1119
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 4: So I think the gravedigger talked about the ways that

1120
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 4: this draft could be looked at positively, except I don't

1121
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 4: love what happened with first year general manager Ran Karthon

1122
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 4: in their post Peter Scaransi presser draft like he came out.

1123
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 4: Just let's play this clip and then I want to

1124
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: say Thursday night afterwards, Yeah.

1125
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 6: This was actually Friday. This was the day to press

1126
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 6: or recap after they didn't draft a wide receiver and

1127
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 6: kind of got grilled for it.

1128
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 7: Right, I just want to say something real quick, you know,

1129
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 7: today and as as yesterday, these kids are living their

1130
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 7: dreams right having their name called, you know, realizing the

1131
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 7: dream and being drafted. And I don't want these you know,

1132
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 7: interactions between us to always feel like we got to

1133
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 7: take a negative turn. And you know, this should be

1134
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 7: a joyous moment for us to praise these kids. This

1135
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 7: is a moment. These kids are going to see this,

1136
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 7: you know, and this is a moment for them and

1137
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 7: their families to rejoice, and you know, because it's only

1138
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 7: going to happen once, you know.

1139
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: So it's like I get it. This is the first

1140
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 4: time that Carthon's had a you know, press conference after

1141
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: his first draft, and but there's something about all that

1142
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 4: that did not was not received well by some in

1143
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 4: the room, uh for being a little preachy, like Paul

1144
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 4: Kuharski's who's a friend of the show, and I think

1145
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: I love him as a Titans reporter because he's a

1146
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 4: little acerbic, a little more cynical.

1147
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 5: And anemy of the show. He wanted to take down

1148
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 5: Dan he was he.

1149
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: Was ridicle of the Tyitoons moniker. But he's a little

1150
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: bit brassy and he's a little different than other reporters

1151
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: and that's okay.

1152
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, but peace was bridged during our time with him.

1153
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 4: If I recall and he said, if your confidence in

1154
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 4: the Titans is low, Mike Rabel, who usually does well

1155
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 4: to restore such things, didn't do a lot to reinforce

1156
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 4: it in that press conference, and Ran karth On gave

1157
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 4: some really poor answers, and then his second tweet, which

1158
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 4: was sort of a response to being preached at, was

1159
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 4: I'm not in kindergarten. If you draft a guy with

1160
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 4: a reputation for bad QB decision making, I'll be asking

1161
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 4: about it. You may have heard it's a soft media market.

1162
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 4: It's not going to be what you ask. Sorry, Titans,

1163
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 4: We'll see all this plays out. But there was something

1164
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 4: about the Titans draft and they're overall like years long,

1165
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 4: including the trade of AJ Brown, to just sort of

1166
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 4: ignore the wide receiver position that I think is driving

1167
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 4: certain reporters crazy, driving certain fans crazy. You're hanging on

1168
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 4: to the idea that you drafted Colton Dowell in the

1169
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 4: seventh round as the only addition at wide receiver. It

1170
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 4: was a major issue last year that team completely nose

1171
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 4: dived and vanished offensively down the stretch. And now you

1172
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 4: have Will Levis and Ryan Tannehill facing the same situation

1173
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 4: going into this season, and you're floating answers out there like, hey,

1174
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 4: we're a little smarter than you. Let's celebrate the players

1175
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 4: we picked, and please no critical questions. Don't love it.

1176
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: I know where you're coming from on that.

1177
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: I thought maybe although it wasn't, it wasn't he wasn't

1178
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: sparring or challenging the reporters. It came off as a

1179
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: little bit a touch condescending, and like one of the

1180
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:36,479
Speaker 2: reasons I got into journalism and what I loved about

1181
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: it and love about it is that the reporter's job,

1182
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: on some level from my perspective, is to kind of

1183
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 2: be the voice of the fans and to be the

1184
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: ones that ask sometimes the hard questions. And while I

1185
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: understand what Carthon is saying there, I also think to myself, Yeah,

1186
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 2: there are a lot of Titans fans that are like,

1187
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: hey man, we need to get a little more explosive.

1188
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 2: You traded away aj Brown, we need to kind of

1189
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: start building. And that question has to be asked, And

1190
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 2: it might be in conflict with your idea that we

1191
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: should be celebrating these kids entering the league. I think

1192
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 2: there's room for that, but you can't tell another person

1193
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: in that room how they should be doing their job.

1194
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,479
Speaker 2: You know, they're in two different positions. So I also

1195
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: don't think that Cartha should be killed over it, but

1196
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: that's not a great way to get your relationship going. Also,

1197
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if Kuharsi speaks only for himself or

1198
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 2: if this is more of a big issue or bigger

1199
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: issue that's brewing behind the scenes over there.

1200
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: But we'll see.

1201
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 3: I mean, his tweet was pretty condescending and like, look

1202
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 3: at me too, So it was a little back and forth.

1203
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, you heard it's a soft market. I'm

1204
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 5: gonna I the guys who are on the radio.

1205
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: I kind of liked it. I gotta say I like

1206
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: it too.

1207
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 3: I kind of like both is just how I would say,

1208
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: Like I respect Carthun kind of bringing that perspective and

1209
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 3: he can speak on it if that's what he wants to,

1210
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 3: and I respect Kaharski coming back, and I think that's healthy.

1211
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 3: But there's always one guy on the radio in the town.

1212
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 3: It's like, Hey, you might not like it, but I'm

1213
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 3: gonna totally like it.

1214
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 5: Is Usually that guy's kind of a jackass.

1215
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,479
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm with it dragon like I'm not. Also,

1216
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to come out of this like flaming

1217
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 4: Carthon because I think like there's a reason they picked

1218
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 4: him and time will tell I be successful. It's just like,

1219
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 4: I think it's important in twenty twenty three and beyond

1220
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 4: to kind of nail these press conferences, Like you just

1221
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 4: don't want to come out with these talking points, and

1222
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 4: there seemed to be an apprehension to kind of answer

1223
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: the tough question around what is your plan with wide

1224
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 4: receiver and et cetera. It's like you're gonna have to

1225
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 4: face those if you're not gonna go do what the

1226
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 4: fans want you have to face the.

1227
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: Questions fair enough.

1228
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: I think that was Greg is and you know, the

1229
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: New England media markets a no walk in the park.

1230
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: But that's like the type of questions I think one

1231
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: of the things Carson's getting at that maybe in the

1232
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: a New York market or a bigger market, like you're

1233
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: gonna get And maybe he's saying in Nashville and Tennessee,

1234
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 2: maybe that's not the type of line of questioning Carthon's expecting.

1235
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: But you know, Maurice Carthon, Rand's father, he knows that

1236
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: more what it's like to play in a big market.

1237
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll work things out.

1238
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 5: Relationship.

1239
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get Paul and ran together for a burger

1240
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 2: and a beer and we'll just sort it sort it out.

1241
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 4: Mm soun yup.

1242
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 1: All right, Have you got something else, Gregie? Yeah?

1243
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 5: I mean are we are? We wrapping up here? I

1244
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 5: could do a lot of.

1245
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: Quick one we got I got a bunch of little

1246
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: things too. We want to go a little more.

1247
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's do some some things. I enjoyed we

1248
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 3: mentioned it a little bit on Thursday. I like the

1249
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 3: Bears Meat and Potato draft. It was what they had

1250
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: to do. It wasn't flashy. I think they got bigger,

1251
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: they got tougher. I love the Michael Mayer pick to

1252
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: the Raiders, that was nice. I wasn't in love with

1253
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 3: Tyree Wilson, but Josh McDaniels, that's good. Jonathan Mingo was

1254
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: kind of my guy at least a wide receiver in

1255
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: this draft, and you paired him with Bryce Young, So

1256
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: that's another thing to be excited about in terms of

1257
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: the offense in Carolina. And then I like the the

1258
00:57:55,640 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 3: college connections. Uh, Jake Hayner drafted by the Saints, Fresno

1259
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 3: State guy like Derek Carr. They already had a relationship,

1260
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 3: they're already talking. He wants to be his mentor. And

1261
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: then stets And Bennett, the Georgia national champion who just

1262
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: won a title in Sofi Stadium with less Steed watching,

1263
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: is now the next Rams backup quarterback. And I know

1264
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: he's the backup because there's no other quarterbacks on the

1265
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: roster and they're both Georgia guys stets And Bennett and

1266
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 3: Matthew Staffords.

1267
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 5: I like. I like the synchronicity there.

1268
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: Here's a there's a connection to that because I have

1269
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: it labeled under weirdest tweet of the draft from ESPN's

1270
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: Diana Rossini.

1271
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: Well, here's the tweet. I'm just gonna read it.

1272
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: It was never a big secret that the Rams loved

1273
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: QB Stets and Bennett, but they played this out really well.

1274
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: I was told how important it was to get a

1275
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: QB in that room who wouldn't be a problem or

1276
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 2: cause issues. What they took him very early.

1277
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 3: There was like a run on kind of surprising quarter

1278
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: back prospects or like, so they took him very early.

1279
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 3: Everyone knew they liked him, apparently, so they had to

1280
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: take him early. And I don't know about the problems thing.

1281
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 3: I mean, he did just have like a DUI. So

1282
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 3: I guess they're saying, like a guy that wouldn't like

1283
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: want the starting job right away, and he'll know his

1284
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 3: place because he's.

1285
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: Friends mid round quarterback.

1286
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 5: Right, Oh I don't know.

1287
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: Oh so yeah, all right, I think that maybe that's

1288
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: what is that what it means Mark that if you

1289
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: took a high if not that they could even take

1290
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: a high draft pick this year, but if you brought

1291
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 2: in like some you know, playboy from the college game,

1292
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: it would tear apart the locker.

1293
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,479
Speaker 1: I guess.

1294
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I think, like because I don't thought the

1295
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 4: experience with Baker Mayfield, if anything was, was perceived to

1296
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 4: be positive and we all thought that like he and

1297
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 4: McVeigh got along well. But I guess if you had

1298
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 4: stuck with Baker Mayfield, you're gonna get a couple of

1299
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 4: quotes over the course of an offseason where he's telling

1300
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 4: you he wants to be the starter. I don't know.

1301
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know why anyone.

1302
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: That's stafford in him were kind of buddies, which is like, okay, great.

1303
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: Cool, Well you got another another nug there.

1304
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 5: Greg, Oh, yeah, I got it.

1305
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 3: I mean this should have been front and center, big winners.

1306
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 3: We got history being made. Riley Moss cornerback.

1307
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 5: Where was he from? Iowa? Now I forget to Denver.

1308
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 3: He's going to be the first white cornerback to be

1309
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: playing regular snap since Jason Seahorn.

1310
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 5: It's been a long time here.

1311
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: The guy zerline was talking up right.

1312
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 5: He's breaking barriers. Went in the third round.

1313
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 3: A lot of people really liked him, and so yeah,

1314
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 3: shout out to Riley Moss for just changing. You know,

1315
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 3: we talked about body diversity that I'm in favor of

1316
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 3: We just need all sorts of different types.

1317
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 5: It's insane.

1318
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 3: It's absolutely crazy that that's true that there hasn't been

1319
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: one since Jason Seahorn.

1320
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: How about our short King Deuce Vaughn five to five. Yeah,

1321
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: he goes at round six, pick thirty five to the

1322
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. That's actually Marky a nice little spot, I

1323
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: think for our short King who enters the fray with

1324
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: Zeke out of the picture, with Tony Pollard come off

1325
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: a major leg injury.

1326
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: They signed Ronald Jones in free agency, but come on,

1327
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: it's Ronald Jones. They also have Malik Davis, who is

1328
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: just a guy.

1329
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: So our short King has a chance to do some

1330
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: things at five five, one seventy nine and coming up

1331
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: back to back one K seasons and All America Honors.

1332
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 4: I love the idea of it. And you know, we

1333
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 4: work with a with a short king in mj D.

1334
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 4: I don't think he'd have a problem with me calling

1335
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 4: him that he didn't.

1336
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 5: I'm here, Martin, I'm right here.

1337
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not a former NFL running back. I'm talking

1338
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 4: about an actual someone who's doing what this person it's.

1339
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 5: Over my shoulder right now.

1340
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: It's very small, really not befitting you know, the honor

1341
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 3: Division one state champions.

1342
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 4: I mean, Greg, I agree with your body diversity, but

1343
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 4: I don't think like one of the NFL teams is

1344
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 4: looking to bring in like an ex high school tennis player.

1345
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 4: I just don't think so.

1346
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 3: I'm the short king of the podcasting game. They've never

1347
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 3: had a short podcast there.

1348
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,959
Speaker 2: I just I don't wanted to mean that trophy, Greg,

1349
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: But first of all, it's impossibly small for the achievement.

1350
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: And also it was a team tennis title. It wasn't

1351
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: a singles championship. I think we had established no disrespect.

1352
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely, but I went undefeated, you know that season starting

1353
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 3: you know team tennis.

1354
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 5: It's three people. Basically, the three of us rolled, not taking.

1355
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: Any we need, Like if we had the rights, we

1356
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: just roll in Springsteen's Glory days Right now, Mark, you

1357
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: got some stuff.

1358
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 5: You know.

1359
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna go down winners and losers Boulevard. But

1360
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 4: I liked what the Bucks did in general, like I

1361
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 4: except for not addressing quarterback, which is weird. But they

1362
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 4: sit out there as a team that might go do

1363
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 4: that next offseason in a big way. But Cody Mak

1364
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 4: like the offensive tackle out of North Dakota State is

1365
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 4: a wildly immense, giant, amazing human who I think is

1366
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 4: gonna be an interesting fit down in super hot Tampa Bay.

1367
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 4: And KLAIJAHKANTSI as well, well, ya ya diabli this guy

1368
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 4: or diabi this like edge guy that they got helps

1369
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 4: because Shaq Barrett's coming off in Achilles. So I think

1370
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 4: this was a sign that the Bucks aren't like they're

1371
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 4: reloading on defense a little bit. They got a tough

1372
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 4: offensive lineman. I kind of like the mood of what

1373
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 4: the Bucks are doing right now, minus the quarterback situation,

1374
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 4: because I, as much as I am pro Baker Mayfield,

1375
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 4: I don't see that going perfectly. Well.

1376
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 3: It's a good job too, because I think the Bucks

1377
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 3: might be ranked thirtieth, thirty first, thirty second in times

1378
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 3: mentioned over the last three months on this podcast.

1379
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 5: So that's a good job by you.

1380
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: I'll throw them out there, I think. Although I haven't

1381
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: been on board with what I have perceived to be

1382
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: a premature push for the Atlanta Falcons the last two years,

1383
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 2: I do believe they are on a compelling path as

1384
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 2: we look ahead to twenty twenty three. Still wish, yes

1385
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 2: that they address quarterback in a different way.

1386
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill still available, Hey, heads up.

1387
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: But I also I respect Falcons fans for what they've

1388
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: gone through the last five or six years. I'll never

1389
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 2: forget being at that super Bowl in Houston, I believe

1390
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: it was, and we all walk by this kind of

1391
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: rundown hotel on the outskirts of town that was completely

1392
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: booked out with Atlanta football fans partying, having the time

1393
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 2: of their life on Saturday night and thinking to myself, Ay,

1394
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 2: I hope my fan base gets to do this just

1395
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: once before I die. And b God, that's the first

1396
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 2: group of people I thought about when twenty eight three

1397
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: went down. Falcons fans are so sick of twenty eight three,

1398
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: and the only thing that's made twenty eight three worse

1399
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 2: has been the fact that the team has not really

1400
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: been relevant or compelling really ever since. I know they

1401
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: won a playoff game the next year we were there

1402
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: against the Rams, but other than that, it's been really

1403
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: a down downhill ride.

1404
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: Here.

1405
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 2: Listen to this fan super fan. I wish I had

1406
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: his name. If we could get it, that would be awesome,

1407
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: justin but not, don't worry about it. Announcing a pick

1408
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: and then hearing someone shout from the crowd.

1409
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 8: You know what they shouted, it's the two hundred and

1410
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 8: twenty fourth pick in the twenty twenty three NFS.

1411
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: I was going to introduce the win planned to Falcon.

1412
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 8: Select to Marco Helen's defensive back Alabama twenty eight three.

1413
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: Good one. We've heard that before. I'm assuming that came

1414
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: from the New England section down in the orchestra. Pete.

1415
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm so glad we got that on film.

1416
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little point in a mocking Yeah, we've heard

1417
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: that one before.

1418
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: Falcons fans don't want to hear that.

1419
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 2: It's time for them to build their next cycle of

1420
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: success so they can really move on from that horrific Sunday.

1421
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 4: If you, if you, if you aren't watching this on YouTube,

1422
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 4: go find that clip, either on this episode or some

1423
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 4: where else, because what he's wearing there is one of

1424
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 4: the more like it completely combats my concept of male

1425
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 4: fashion being in a in a low place at the moment.

1426
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 4: He is doing something completely different with his choices, and

1427
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 4: it was an eyepop and I think it gave that

1428
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 4: production a little life at that point because I was

1429
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 4: like deep in the seventh round, where you know, you're

1430
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 4: just struggling for something to say and like out comes

1431
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 4: this eye catching wonder.

1432
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: It's a red suit with the dirty bird all over it.

1433
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 3: You should watch this this YouTube, you know, hit the like,

1434
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 3: subscribe to around the NFL YouTube smash that like. Check

1435
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 3: out the live stream from the other night. It's still

1436
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 3: it's still cranking.

1437
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: Does anybody have one more?

1438
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: I have one more, but I'll defer to some you

1439
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 2: guys if you have yeah quickly.

1440
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 3: Danny Kelly pointed out Devin h Chane during our running

1441
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 3: Back preview, and I wasn't familiar with him at the time,

1442
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 3: but he compared him to the running back version of

1443
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill. His explosiveness is insane. When I went to

1444
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 3: watch him this, he is an insane player. And now

1445
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 3: he's a member of the Dolphins. That's the fastest track

1446
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 3: team I've ever seen, and so I'm just excited about

1447
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 3: that him and most are in the same backfield, just

1448
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 3: like he is pure speed. And then my last winner

1449
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 3: of the night, you gotta give it to the guys overseas,

1450
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 3: our buds, both Neil Reynolds and Will Gavin Neil of

1451
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 3: Sky Sports, Will Gavin of Toksport Radio, both introducing picks

1452
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 3: on day three, coming for a big in a big spot.

1453
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 3: They were sort of introducing young fans in the UK

1454
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 3: that actually said the pick. But they were there. They

1455
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 3: got their moment in the sun. They got some nice

1456
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 3: NFL network pop.

1457
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 5: So good job by Will and Neil both.

1458
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 4: I needed one of them to be in holographic form

1459
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 4: because I lost. As far as I.

1460
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: Can tell, you get to that.

1461
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if I tracked every pick, but

1462
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 4: it's not looking good for the non human making a pick.

1463
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we will, we will get to that mark. He

1464
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: got something else.

1465
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I you know, I know, we talked to

1466
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 4: little Patriots, but I thought in general I liked their draft,

1467
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 4: and I think a winner has to be mac Jones

1468
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 4: because I had become more and more convinced that he

1469
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 4: was going to get shipped out of town that they

1470
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 4: were maybe going to go quarterback. In general, they hung

1471
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 4: out there on the fringe of the potential Lamar Jackson

1472
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 4: like Chase, and then a week later there's really no

1473
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 4: competition outside of Bailey Zappi for Mac Jones's job. He's

1474
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 4: a star. I think he's the presumptive starter. I don't

1475
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 4: think he and Belichick are like the best of friends.

1476
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 4: But I don't think Bill Belichick's ever really been the

1477
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 4: best of friends with almost any of his quarterbacks. And

1478
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 4: so it's like, you got Bill O'Brien. It's a better

1479
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 4: situation than a year ago, and you haven't just been

1480
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 4: thrown somewhere else to start all over in another city.

1481
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:47,919
Speaker 3: Kean White, their second round pick, quickly, was as upset

1482
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 3: as I've ever seen. I really felt for him when

1483
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 3: he got drafted number forty six. I believe he was

1484
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 3: at the draft and he left because he was disappointed.

1485
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 3: And they did still have a camera on him when

1486
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 3: he got drafted in the second round. I've never seen

1487
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 3: a look has pissed off. He was not getting over

1488
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 3: it in the in the moment, So Kean White, A

1489
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 3: lot of people thought he'd be a top, you know,

1490
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 3: thirty pick. I hope he brings that energy and he

1491
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 3: takes it out on the rest of the league.

1492
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: Very nice, very nice. I wanted the ultimate winner. It's

1493
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: my last one.

1494
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 2: I mean, no one won the draft in Kansas City

1495
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 2: at a higher level than Hollywood actor Eric stone Street,

1496
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 2: the Modern Family star. Loyal to the soil, as they

1497
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: say all over the coverage on NFL Network, and beyond

1498
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 2: stone it's stone Street Mania. Here he is announcing the

1499
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: Chiefs pick late in the draft.

1500
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 8: Oh right, Kansas City, real quick. I'm so proud of

1501
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 8: our hometown. You guys showed up, showed.

1502
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 9: The nationale Football League. What a great welcoming city. Kansas

1503
01:09:54,680 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 9: City is. So thank you, Kansas City. We love a

1504
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:02,440
Speaker 9: we love everyone.

1505
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 5: We love.

1506
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 1: Hey man.

1507
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: When you have an opportunity to just own the moment,

1508
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 2: as Stone Street has this weekend, you grab it.

1509
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: You grab that rocket and you go for a ride.

1510
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 2: And stone Street hopped on and he soared across the

1511
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: skies of Miss three days.

1512
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 3: I mean he wasn't just like a Thursday night guy

1513
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 3: or a Friday night guy.

1514
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 5: Hell no, he was in all three days.

1515
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 3: And I've learned since like he had he has beefs

1516
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 3: with different reporters around the country. Jeff Howe of The Athletic,

1517
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: who was once covering the Patriots, he has a beef

1518
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 3: with stone Street because he once, uh, you know, talked

1519
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 3: a lot of trash about one of his articles. So

1520
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 3: it's like stone Street's in the mix and he's not

1521
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 3: going away.

1522
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 4: Did you see what he was doing outside of the

1523
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 4: announcement there, He had rich Eisen in the passenger seat

1524
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 4: of his car, and he had he's got a vehicle

1525
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 4: with one of these like massive like speakers outside it.

1526
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: He's sitting around.

1527
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's driving around being like, hey, I'm rich

1528
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 4: ez Elite's pretending to be rich Eien. Insane sort of

1529
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 4: like bizarre stuff to people on the side of the street,

1530
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 4: like he's feeling himself.

1531
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: Do you know what they call that CS? Classic Stone Street?

1532
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 4: That is it is?

1533
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 6: We love football? Sounds like it could be the slogan

1534
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 6: for next year season, just we love football.

1535
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 2: Put that in the chamber. We might be firing that

1536
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 2: one off come next September. All right, before we say goodbye,

1537
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: let's check in on go get my lunch once again,

1538
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 2: Nick four tierf this was my vers one ever. I

1539
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 2: think by the way Nick fourth Tier reached out to me,

1540
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 2: you were concerned Greg that perhaps he was disrespected earlier

1541
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 2: last week that I couldn't quite place his name, But

1542
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 2: he took it in great spirits and signed a message

1543
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 2: to me Nick four Tier aka Ryan Frontier aka Chad Foster.

1544
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: Chad Foster, this is just funny, Chest Foster.

1545
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, you took a bit of a dirt nap here, GREGI, well,

1546
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 2: will you finish under five hundred? So Tyree Wilson is

1547
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: the first defensive player taken in the draft.

1548
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: No, he was not. It was who Will Anderson?

1549
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Will Anderson, Dan and Mark pickup sangwiches there. Then

1550
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: you had all four of the top QBS Young Stroud,

1551
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: Levis and Richardson are drafted within the top ten almost

1552
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: but unfortunately Lett was fell out of the first round

1553
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: and I was taken thirty second overall, so he did

1554
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: not get that. Two more sanguages for Dan and Mark,

1555
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 2: and then you had d hops. We all got banged

1556
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 2: on the veterans being moved. You had d Hops traded

1557
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: to the Bills by the end of the draft. Two

1558
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,959
Speaker 2: more losses there, so you finished five and eight. Mark Sessler,

1559
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 2: hey man, listen, we talked about it. You're deep in

1560
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: the rear view in the standings. You just got chop

1561
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: wood for a few years.

1562
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: That's it. And then here's a perfect example.

1563
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 3: You have a seven in jacket for it. I feel

1564
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 3: like that's a good chopping wood jacket.

1565
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 2: Sure, when Mark is wearing the faded black Levi's jacket

1566
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 2: on a Saturday, look out, Mark Went's seven and five.

1567
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 2: The Packers draft at least four wide receivers and tight

1568
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 2: ends big w only one sangwich though, you know because

1569
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 2: I found it to be egregious Nebulos mac Jones is

1570
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: not a Patriot by the end of the draft. There's

1571
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 2: your ding there. Dan and Greg took you on that,

1572
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 2: and mac Jones is very much It appears part of

1573
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 2: the equation there. A non human slash non animal makes

1574
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 2: a draft pick. Dan and Greg both pick up sangwiches.

1575
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 2: There was there, ever a moment I saw at one

1576
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: point there were.

1577
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: What the hell was it?

1578
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 2: I turned it on today and it was monkeys or

1579
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: puppies or something.

1580
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 3: There do animal dog pete on Daniel Jeremiah speaking of

1581
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 3: a winner in this draft. That dog is a winner.

1582
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 5: They brought a boy stoy Pete on DJ. So that's

1583
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 5: good that Mark would have predicted.

1584
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have.

1585
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 4: I you know, I didn't sense that when I was

1586
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 4: cooking up my sandwich things. But I I'll be fully accountable.

1587
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 4: I did not track every single day three announcement. I

1588
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 4: like to watch as much as I can, but other

1589
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 4: human things were occurring during the day. But I know

1590
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 4: that if a non human, non animal had made a pick,

1591
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 4: I would be getting tons of tweets from people, and

1592
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 4: that is it was essentially totally quiet, so very confident

1593
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 4: that a non human, non animal was not a participant. Today.

1594
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 2: Uh, the old Zeusser eight and four opening up a

1595
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 2: bit of a lead on the old Boss. The Texans

1596
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: state number two and draft to qb uh pick up

1597
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 2: two Q sangwiches there with CJ.

1598
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: Stroud coming up the board too.

1599
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 2: I just missed really cleaning up in this draft because

1600
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: I had the Jets like rogerck Jones in the first round,

1601
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 2: and another Schrager report was out there. He was saying

1602
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 2: on Friday that the Jets weren't happy with the quote

1603
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 2: unquote narrative that everyone thought that that's who they wanted,

1604
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 2: when that necessarily was the case. I don't know if

1605
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: I necessarily believe that, but the Jets were pushing back

1606
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: against that. They ended up taking the edge rusher. So

1607
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 2: I missed that one though, so it cost me two sandwiches,

1608
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: and then I had once again we all got dinged

1609
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: with the trades. Titans trade either Tannehill or Henry by today,

1610
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 2: so I guess they still have till midnight for that,

1611
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 2: but I don't see it happening, So that's gonna cost

1612
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: me too. And then finally, the curse of the producer continues.

1613
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 2: Justin had no trades within the top seven picks, and

1614
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 2: as we said before, this was a historic draft.

1615
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: There was more.

1616
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 2: Trades than ever forty one, I believe, or in the

1617
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: forties somewhere. You had none in the top seven, and

1618
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 2: I believe there were two in the top seven.

1619
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, since you got that doubly wrong, you have

1620
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 3: to get.

1621
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 5: Us two sandwiches each.

1622
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,799
Speaker 6: Okay, well, one day I will win a sandwich. Watch

1623
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 6: one day.

1624
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: How did it go? Thursday night?

1625
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 2: After that long day, And again, thank you to Justin

1626
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 2: and everybody behind the scenes, including Jessica as well, your

1627
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 2: lovely girlfriend who sat in on the live stream when

1628
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 2: you got home. Was she happy about being a part

1629
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,839
Speaker 2: of it? Or was she like what was that all about?

1630
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 1: Like? Where did she come down on the live stream?

1631
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 1: Ultimately a little bit of both.

1632
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 6: She was happy to be there, She was happy to

1633
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 6: see it up like happening live and not having to

1634
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 6: watch it, you know, on YouTube at home waiting for

1635
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 6: me to get back from work. But at the same time,

1636
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 6: she did feel like, why was it a million degrees

1637
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 6: in that room. Why didn't you and Mark get more

1638
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 6: picks right in your mock draft? So I had something

1639
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 6: to do instead of just sitting there waiting for.

1640
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 5: You guys to be wrong all night.

1641
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's where she came down.

1642
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 4: I think it's a totally fair assessment.

1643
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 2: By the way, I have some reporting I want to

1644
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: share about the temperature in that room. And this is

1645
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 2: something that I.

1646
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: You know, I like the triple source, so I did.

1647
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: I heard it, someone volunteered it to me, and then

1648
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 2: I checked in with a couple other people on this,

1649
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 2: and it has now been confirmed to me that the

1650
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,879
Speaker 2: room where we did the live stream for five hours,

1651
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 2: which was filled with you know, roughly eight to ten

1652
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 2: people with lighting and cameras all over the place, it

1653
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 2: was known that there was an issue with the air

1654
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: conditioning weeks ago, and yet we were thrown to the

1655
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 2: wolves or thrown into the fire literally despite them knowing

1656
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: full well what the outcome would have been.

1657
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 4: Wait, and you triple source this. You triple source sourced

1658
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 4: it from within the building we were in. And when

1659
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 4: I say we, I'm not just talking about the three

1660
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 4: of us and not just justin There was a large

1661
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 4: crowd of hard working NFL media employees inside what was

1662
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 4: a room that was no bigger than a small bedroom. Essentially,

1663
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 4: it's very compact, no windows, no ventilation. And you're trying

1664
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 4: to tell me that higher ups within the building knew

1665
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 4: that they were willingly throwing their employees, the people that

1666
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 4: they value, into this sort of hothouse for four plus hours.

1667
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 4: You're telling me that's the scenario.

1668
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 2: I can only tell you what my reporting, uh came

1669
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 2: up came back with, which is they were fully aware

1670
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 2: greg that if they put that many people and that

1671
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 2: much lighting and that much equipment in that room for

1672
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 2: that amount of time, it was going to be a

1673
01:18:55,960 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 2: potentially dangerous experience, especially for the talent. And and that's all.

1674
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: And we could we could take action steps going forward

1675
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 2: as we head into the off season, the proper off

1676
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 2: season for us. But I think I had to get

1677
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 2: that out there, and I know that's gonna rub some

1678
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 2: people the wrong way. Some shadowy leak figures that I

1679
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 2: would bring this reporting out here, but that that's part

1680
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 2: of what the zeuser has to do in terms of

1681
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: his reporting, and I'm just that's it.

1682
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Yessica had mixed feelings When Justin returned,

1683
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 3: Emica's feelings weren't mixed at all. She saw me and

1684
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 3: she was like, did you lose seven pounds of water

1685
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,879
Speaker 3: weight tonight? Because you're looking good. When I walked in.

1686
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 5: She's like, just get those soggy uh that soggi.

1687
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 3: Underwear out of here, and then you know, let's go,

1688
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 3: let's go.

1689
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 2: The night ended with Greg ringing out his tidy whities

1690
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: into the kitchen sink.

1691
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: Don't need to visualize that, all right, I think that's enough.

1692
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 2: Good stuff, good stuff. Another draft in the books. That

1693
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 2: is the tenth draft we've covered for the podcast. We've

1694
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 2: been involved with more address probably about twelve or thirteen

1695
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 2: as a group, but in terms of the around the

1696
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 2: NFL podcast are tenth and we thank you for listening, Greggie.

1697
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: I know you checked it out.

1698
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 2: The number is very healthy and robust, both with the

1699
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 2: stream and the podcast. You guys ten years, thirteen years

1700
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 2: in well, ten years into the show now have continued

1701
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 2: to support us and the show has continued to grow.

1702
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: And also again Justin jump back in here.

1703
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 1: Justin.

1704
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: This kind of is the year anniversary of Justin taking

1705
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 2: over as our full time producer, replacing Erica, who obviously

1706
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 2: was incredible for us, but Justin, that was a hell

1707
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 2: of a first year with ATM, so we thank you

1708
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 2: for everything you do.

1709
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 6: Thanks. It's been a really fun year, learned a lot

1710
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 6: and looking forward to a year where now I know

1711
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 6: all the events and the ten pull things that we're

1712
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 6: you know, expecting to cover, so I'll be I think

1713
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 6: i'll be better.

1714
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 5: You've done it all once. I don't want to get

1715
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 5: ahead of ourselves.

1716
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 3: We haven't talked about this, but I actually ready to

1717
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:06,520
Speaker 3: to ask you to be our our pre fiance producer.

1718
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: We're pre engaging. We're pre engaged.

1719
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't know how that works. Yeah, I want to

1720
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 3: pre engage with you with Justin.

1721
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 2: I just imagine us all on our knees, yes, well

1722
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 2: on one knee. Okay, that's that seems like a good

1723
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: time to get out. Thank you everybody. Until we got again.

1724
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: Like I said, we have around the AFC and NFC

1725
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 2: with special guests galore this week, so check back in

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Until then, Dan had the signing

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Speaker 2: Off for Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, Justin Graver, everybody behind

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Speaker 2: the scenes, heat the call