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Speaker 2: We're not trying to chase any momentum. You know, the

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Speaker 3: Um, Buzz night and welcome to taking a walk. You

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Speaker 3: know that feeling when a song comes on suddenly you're

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Speaker 3: you're remembering a moment you thought you'd forgotten. That's the

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Speaker 3: magic of the band, The Paper Kites. They don't just

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Speaker 3: write songs, they craft entire atmospheres. From their humble beginnings

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Speaker 3: Australia's most beloved indie folk acts, the Paper Kites have

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Speaker 3: spent over a decade perfecting the art of musical storytelling.

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Speaker 3: Their breakout hit Bloom, has been streamed hundreds of millions

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Speaker 3: of times, soundtracking everything from quiet morning coffees to life's

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Speaker 3: most pivotal moments. The Paper Kites on taking a Walk,

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Speaker 3: Taking a Walk. I'm so excited to have Sam Bentley

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Speaker 3: Hi boz Hey, doing fantastic. We're here to talk about

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Speaker 3: the seventh studio album from The Paper Kites. If you

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Speaker 3: we call this crazy podcast Taking a Walk, before we

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Speaker 3: embark on our little conversation, if you could take a

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Speaker 3: walk with somebody living or dead, who would you take

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Speaker 2: M That's a very good question. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: A great story. Thank you for sharing that. Appreciate that. Sure.

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Speaker 3: I view your music is cinematic and a great atmospheric quality.

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Speaker 3: Can you take our audience through how your songwriting process

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Speaker 3: So take us inside the creation of If you go there,

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Speaker 2: It's funny this this record wasn't supposed to be made.

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Speaker 2: space for us as a band. We've really grown in

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Speaker 2: that space and really kind of learned to, yeah, to

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Speaker 2: kind of just be a band. I know that's a

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Speaker 2: it's been a very fruit space for us.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you're exploring the joyous nature of collaboration, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's really what it is.

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Speaker 2: That's right, That's right, and you know you kind of

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Speaker 2: you need a space to do that, and we've managed to, yeah,

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Speaker 2: navigate quite a few records there there, so we have

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad you took the time Sam to be

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Speaker 3: on the podcast Taking a Walk. Congratulations on If you

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Speaker 3: go there, I hope you find it and enjoy the road,

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Speaker 3: because the road is long and you guys are going

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Speaker 3: to be out there for a while, but I hope

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Speaker 3: we get to do this again, Sam Bentley.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so thank you so much, Bob. It's been a pleasure.

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