1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: So with Beijing, the balloon incident is over water, are 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: under the bridge. We did what we needed to do 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: to protect our interests. We said what we needed to 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: say and make clear what we needed to make clear 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: in terms of this not happening again, and so as 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: long as it doesn't, that chapter should be closed. 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: Did you get any commitment on those three wrongfully detained Americans. 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: We have a commitment to continue to work hard on 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: resolving these cases military to military. We don't have an 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: agreement on that yet, it's something we're going to keep working. 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 2: I made very. 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: Clear to our Chinese counterparts the importance that we attach 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: to that something that is also profoundly in their interest, 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: because again we both agree that we want to at 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: the very least make sure that we don't inadvertently have 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: a conflict because of miscommunication, because of misunderstanding. 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: So Sheshin Pain didn't say they absolutely not. 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: No, this is a this is the work in progress 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: for working out we'll get defense chiefs at least talk 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: to each other well again to be seen, we've made 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: clear that we think that's important, more than important imperative. 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: I think the Chinese understand very well because I made 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: very clear where we're coming from on this, and we'll 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: keep working on Taiwan. I reiterated the long standing US 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: One China policy. That policy has not changed. It's guided 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: by the Taiwan Relations. 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: Act, the three Joint Communicates, the six Assurances. 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: We do not support Taiwan independence. 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: We were made opposed to any unilateral changes to the 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: statis quo by either side. We continue to expect the 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: peaceful resolution of prostrate differences. 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: In this episode of New ch World, Secretary of State 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: Anthony Blinkoln visited Beijing in an effort to renew diplomatic 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: relations with China and President Xixinping, but the visit is 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: still being weighed in terms of how it will advance relations. 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: He held talks with China's top two foreign policy officials 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: and met Was Jijiping one Monday. I have to say, however, 38 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: this whole thing is a charade. A couple minor things. 39 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: When Lincoln walks on the stage to shake hands with Jijenping, 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: Xijiping doesn't move. He stands there and like a supplicant, 41 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 3: the Secretary of State walks over to him. There's a 42 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: very famous story of a British ambassador to the Ottoman Empire, 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: and they had a rule in the Ottoman Empire that 44 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: you had to bow on hands and knees in front 45 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: of the Sultan, and the British ambassador wouldn't do it. 46 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: And so finally the Turks, in a moment of desperation, 47 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: put in a door that you had to crawl through 48 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: in order to get to the Sultan, and the theory 49 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 3: that this way the British ambassador would have crawled to him, 50 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: at which point the British ambassador turned around and crawled 51 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: in backwards, showing his rear end. The difference between the 52 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: British sense of pride and willingness to stand up even 53 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: to the head of the Ottoman Empire and Antony Blincoln's 54 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: pathetic eagerness to do whatever it takes to please the 55 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: dictatorship is staggering. But then remember Anthony Blincoln ran the 56 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 3: penn Biden Center, which was funded basically by the Chinese 57 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: Communist although we don't know all the internal details because 58 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: the University of Pennsylvania will not release how they've spent 59 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: the more than forty million dollars they got from the 60 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: Chinese communists. So Blincoln was part of the gang. There 61 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: were nine people in the Biden White House, who also 62 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: were part of that Penn Biden Center being funded by 63 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: the Chinese. Not that any of this directly means that 64 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: Biden is in cahoots with the Chinese, although it's also 65 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: true that he took Hunter with him on Air Force two, 66 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: so everybody in China would be reminded that Hunter represented 67 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: genuine influence and was worth giving money to. They then 68 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: play this charade where Biden referred to Xijenping as a dictator. 69 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: Jijinping was supposedly offended that he'd been called a dictator. 70 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: They trodded out a spokesperson for the Chinese Foreign Ministry 71 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: who was deeply offended, all of which was nonsense. Biden 72 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: had actually referred to as a dictator in the State 73 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: of the Union. Jijinping knows he's a dictator. Jijinping knows 74 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: that the entire system of the Chinese Communist Party, and 75 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 3: remember the Chinese government is a subordinate of the Chinese 76 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 3: Communist Party. Jijinping's real power is as secretary General of 77 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: the party, not as President of China. In his sense, 78 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 3: he kind of reports to himself. So the notion that 79 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: they are offended that we would tell the truth about 80 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: what they obviously know is just goofy. Meanwhile, Biden said 81 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: that Jijinping was probably upset because he didn't realize that 82 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 3: there was spy material on the Chinese balloon. This spy material, 83 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: by the way, was apparently the size of a school bus. 84 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: Anybody who believes that a twenty story tall balloon with 85 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: a school bus amount of intelligence gathering material happened to 86 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: be across the US and Jijiping didn't know it completely 87 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: misunderstands how China has operated, because if that happened, the 88 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 3: person who did it wouldn't be there anymore. This is 89 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: a tightly controlled to tolitarian dictatorship which has grown much 90 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: tighter under Xijinping. Meanwhile, the Chinese, of course are working 91 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: very hard to create a military base in Cuba. But 92 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 3: the truth is the Chinese are now in virtually every 93 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 3: country in South America and Central America, and we ought 94 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: to be looking at the totality of the Chinese influence campaign. 95 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: Instead we now are focused. And I was so reassured 96 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: when Anthony Blincoln said, we are concerned about this and 97 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: we are monitoring it. What does that mean We're concerned? 98 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: They get to do it or they don't get to 99 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: do it. We're monitoring it. We're monitoring the build up 100 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: of Chinese military capability ninety miles off the American coast. Well, 101 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: what does monitoring mean? Presumably we always monitor things. Now 102 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: at one level, people who believe in a equality of 103 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 3: nations point out that we have troops all over the Pacific, 104 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 3: that we have forces all around China, so it's only fair, 105 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: But that misses the point of national security. This is 106 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: not a game where you seek fairness. This is a 107 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: system where you seek security, where you want to minimize 108 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: your opponent's potential ability to hurt you, where you want 109 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: to cut them off from intelligence information, where you want 110 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: to minimize their alliances. And what we've done at a 111 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: level of just stunning incompetence, not just the Biden administration, 112 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: but the State Department, USAID, the Department of Defense, the 113 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 3: eighteen intelligence agencies that we have well China steadily for 114 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: over a decade to get stronger and stronger, bolder and bolder, 115 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 3: and to reach out more and more. So let's start 116 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: with the reality that Blincoln's visit was pathetic. We keep 117 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: saying to the Chinese, we would like to have a 118 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: communication system much like the hotline we had with the 119 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: Soviet Union, and the Chinese keeps saying to us, we 120 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 3: don't want to have a communication system. I mean, recently 121 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: we saw the stunning example that neither the Minister of 122 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: Defense nor Xixenping would take phone calls, respectively from the 123 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: Secretary of Defense of the United States and from the President. Now, 124 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: if we're begging for a phone call and they're refusing 125 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: to take the phone call, there's something profoundly wrong with 126 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: how we are approaching this. And I think we have 127 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: to understand that we currently look like we're the weak 128 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: country desperate for China's affection, seeking China's approval in a 129 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: way that makes no sense at all. Instead, we all 130 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: to be moving in the opposite direction. We ought to 131 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: be building strength, We ought to be quite firm. We 132 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: should indicate clearly that meeting with an American president or 133 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: meeting with an American Secretary of State is something we 134 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: give you, not something you give us. And I think 135 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: it tells you a lot about the relative balance psychologically 136 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: of power between the Biden administration and the Jijenping dictatorship. 137 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: We look like somebody seeking a date won't you please 138 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: go to the problem with me. I'd like you to 139 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: go to the problem with me. I feel really bad 140 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 3: you didn't go to the problem with me. This is nuts. 141 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: Jijenping is a very tough man. He's a man who 142 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: runs a billion, three hundred million people with an iron fist. 143 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: He's a man who has openly said we are preparing 144 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: for war. He's a man who clearly wants to replace 145 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 3: the United States as the dominant country on the planet. 146 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: And a guy like that, you don't court by being weak. 147 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: You don't court by trying to have smiling conversations. I 148 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 3: thought it was very telling, though. When came to Mary 149 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: Largo to visit President Trump. Halfway through the dinner, President 150 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: Trump said, please excuse me for a minute. I've got 151 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 3: to go talk to the press just for a second. 152 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: And he stepped out. And when he came back and 153 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: he said, you know, we just fired a series of 154 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 3: Tomahawk missiles at Syria, taking out a whole bunch of 155 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: Syrian aircraft because they had crossed a red line and 156 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: we were getting even Now. What that said to Jijiping 157 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: was I'm having dinner with a very tough guy who 158 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: was prepared to use military force, and who has sort 159 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: of just sent me a signal. You can't imagine Joe 160 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: Biden doing that, and that's a great problem. So I 161 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: want to give you a flavor of Anthony B. Lincoln 162 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: representing American he said after the meeting. I'm quoting him. 163 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: During those meetings, we had a robust conversation about regional 164 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: and global challenges that includes Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine. 165 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: I reiterated that we would welcome China playing a constructive 166 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 3: role along with other nations to work toward a just 167 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: peace based on the principles of the United Nations Charter. 168 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: Let me just stop right there and point out the 169 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: Chinese currently are buying huge quantities of Russian gas and 170 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: oil at a reduced price. They are totally supportive of 171 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: the Russians. Bijiujinping has a close relationship with Putin and 172 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: the idea that somehow they're going to go back and 173 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: repeat the words that we hope that they will play 174 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: quote a constructive role. Well, their constructive role is to 175 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: prop up Putin and help them defeat Ukraine. I mean, 176 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: who's kidding who here? Blincoln goes on to say, quote 177 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: we also spoke about North Korea's increasingly reckless actions and rhetoric. Look, 178 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: the fact is, North Korea survives only because the Chinese 179 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: communists tolerated and protected. Without Chinese economic activity, without Chinese 180 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: willingness to sell food, willingness to sell energy, willingness to 181 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: sell other materials, North Korea would dry up and collapse. 182 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: Act is the Chinese kind of like having North Korea 183 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: there because they distract the United States, South Korea, and 184 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: Japan and the Chinese Sea. North Korea is a useful 185 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: tool for the purpose of keeping the Americans off balance. 186 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 3: Blinkn asserts, quote, we have an interest in encouraging the DPRK, 187 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: that's North Korea, to act responsibly, to stop launching missiles, 188 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: to start engaging on its nuclear program. Now we have 189 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: been saying this since I was Speaker of the House, 190 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: when we first got involved in the Clinton administration, when 191 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: we realized that they were developing nuclear weapons, and the 192 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: North Koreans basically just keep going forward. They occasionally talk 193 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: with people, and you have four power talks, six power talks, 194 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: two power talks. But in the end, the North Koreans 195 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: do what they're doing, which is build a nuclear capability, 196 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: build missiles capable of reaching the United States, and build 197 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: a sufficiently robust missile force that South Korea is contained. 198 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: And reason is pretty simple. South Korea today is a 199 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: gigi successful economy. It is enormously wealthy. North Korea is 200 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 3: a total disaster. The most telling example is if you 201 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: look at a picture at night from a satellite, you 202 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: see where the thirty eighth parallel is, because north of 203 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: it it's virtually all dark, a little bit of light 204 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: around Pyongyang, the capital. South of it, it's all lit up. 205 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: Because South Korea is so prosperous and so successful, one 206 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: of the most striking examples in the world. And the 207 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: North Koreans know that the only thing they have is 208 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: military force, and they know that nobody's going to do 209 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: anything too reckless. Because Soul, Korea a huge city, one 210 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: of the biggest cities in the world, and a beautiful 211 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: city which Cliston and I have been privileged to visit 212 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: several times. It's directly within reach of the North Korean military. 213 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: In the opening minutes of the war, so the South 214 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: Koreans don't want to start a fight. The North Koreans 215 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: are defending themselves and see themselves as being basically capable 216 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: of threatening the United States, Japan, and South Korea. The 217 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: Chinese love it because it distracts US and requires us 218 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: to keep one eye on North Korea while we're trying 219 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: to keep the other eye on Taiwan and the South 220 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: China Sea, and the behavior of the Chinese around the world. 221 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: Blincoln goes on to say, and this has got to 222 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: be one of the weirdest quote. So I want you 223 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 3: to listen carefully. This is your Secretary of State on 224 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: behalf of the United States quote. We exchanged views on 225 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: our respective economic policies, including our concerns about China's unfair 226 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: treatment of US companies. 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Go to Gingishtree sixty dot com slash 254 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: book and order your copy now. Order it today at 255 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: gingishtree sixty dot com slash book. Now you have to 256 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: reject everything we know in history about supply chains, about logistics, 257 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: about capabilities to believe that we should be relying on 258 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: the Chinese. The Chinese openly state they're are competitor. Today 259 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: something like ninety three percent of all base pharmaceutical material 260 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: comes from China. That was not true twenty years ago, 261 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: but it came mostly for the United States in Japan. Today, 262 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: solar panels, electric cars, the whole range of things come 263 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: from China. The president of Raytheon, a major defense contractor, 264 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: has said that they have over three thousand engagements in 265 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: China that are central to their productivity. The fact that 266 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: we don't have a clear, decisive program to delink all 267 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: of these things and move them back to the United 268 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: States to make ourselves capable of operating. If the Chinese 269 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: cut off certain key selected supply chains, our military would 270 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: be crippled, our hospitals would be crippled. And by the way, 271 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: you'll notice that in all this talk, you don't hear 272 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: blink and talk about the number one problem with Chinese trade, 273 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: which of course is fentanyl. We just continue to tolerate 274 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: the fact that fentanyls made by the Chinese, it's a 275 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: growth market for the Chinese, and in fact it is 276 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: a huge problem, killing thousands and thousands of Americans. But 277 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: do you see the Biden administration putting pressure in the 278 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 3: Chinese who could in fact close down all these factories. No, 279 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: you see them saying that any trade we have with 280 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 3: you is contingent on stopping the flow of fentanel. No. 281 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: So again, the degree to which Biden must be the 282 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: most pro Chinese, the most shallow, and the most self 283 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 3: deceiving president. This entire trip reinforced that. Now Lincoln then, 284 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: of course turned tough and said, quote, I raised US 285 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 3: concerns shared by an no growing number of countries about 286 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 3: the PRCS, that's the People's Republic of China provocative actions 287 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: in the Taiwan Strait as well as in the South 288 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: and East China seas on Taiwan. I reiterated the long 289 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 3: standing US One China policy. That policy has not changed. 290 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: He goes on basically to say, we remain opposed to 291 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 3: any unilateral changes to the status quo by either side. 292 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 3: We continue to expect the peaceful resolution of cross state difficulties. Now, 293 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 3: the fact is that the Chinese Communist dictatorship waivers back 294 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: and forth about how to apply pressure to Taiwan. The Taiwanese, actually, 295 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: to their credit, are gradually moving towards more and more 296 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: independence from China. And frankly, if you're the Chinese in 297 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: Taiwan and you're watching what the Chinese Communists did in 298 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: Hong Kong, you have no interest in becoming part of 299 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: that dictatorship. But you don't see a robust, clearer statement. 300 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 3: We do say, quote, we remain committed to meeting our 301 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 3: responsibilities under the Taiwan Relations Act, including making sure that 302 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: Taiwan has the ability to defend itself, But he doesn't 303 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 3: say the United States will not accept and would decisively 304 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 3: react to any effort by the Chinese Communists to invade. 305 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: They are working on a meeting between Biden and g 306 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: probably at the G twenty meeting in November of twenty 307 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: twenty two. All I can say is that the idea 308 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: of Biden having a further opportunity to further cozy up 309 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 3: to Jijinping and the Chinese dictatorship doesn't somehow make me 310 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: feel particularly positive about all this. The Chinese Communists themselves 311 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: are aggressive. They take us head on. They are quite 312 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: prepared to push us as far as they can push us. 313 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: You can tell that they're not going into Cuba as 314 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: an active friendship. They're not causing trouble in the Taiwan 315 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: Straits as an active friendship. They're not gradually increasing their 316 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: presence in the South China Sea as an active friendship. 317 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: The fact is that you have a methodical and direct 318 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: effort by the Chinese dictatorship to do everything it can 319 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 3: to become a world hegemony. Jiujuiping's pretty open about it. 320 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: He thinks about twenty forty China will be more powerful 321 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 3: in the United States and more capable worldwide of applying 322 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 3: pressure and building an alliance than the Americans will be. 323 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: And frankly, this particular administration is doing everything it can 324 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: to make it easier, not harder, for the Chinese to rise. 325 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: I would say that we really are in a situation 326 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: where we are basically faced with a new Cold War. 327 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: It is a permanent competition with a very powerful country 328 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 3: which has a very strong tutulitarian system, and that we 329 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 3: have to recognize that they are going to do everything 330 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 3: they can to be effective, and they're going to do 331 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 3: everything they can to outmaneuver us, and frankly, with the 332 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: Biden administration, we make it much too easy and we 333 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: are much too weak, and I think that's an enormous 334 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: threat to the United States. Let me be very clear, 335 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: the challenge of taking on the Chinese communists, the challenge 336 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: on a worldwide basis, has to start here at home. 337 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 3: And Claire Christiansen and I wrote a book several years 338 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 3: ago called Trump Versus China. We dedicated an entire chapter 339 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: entitled you Can't Blame China, and we pointed out that 340 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: when you talk about, for example, the collapse of our 341 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: education system, you can't blame the Chinese. That's our problem. 342 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: So we really have to have I think a three 343 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: pronged approach. The first is to recognize what we have 344 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 3: to do in the United States to make the United 345 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 3: States once again the most dynamic, the most entrepreneurial, the 346 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 3: most successful country in the world. If we're growing at 347 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: three and a half percent a year, if we have 348 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of entrepreneurship, if we have fifty or 349 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 3: one hundred elon Musks inventing new technologies and new approaches, 350 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: if we are replacing welfare with work, and getting Americans 351 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: back to being productive. We are dramatically better able to 352 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 3: compete with the Chinese. But if we are determined to 353 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: decay into a country in which millions cannot read, in 354 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 3: which people are dying from drug overdoses, you're not going 355 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: to be a healthy country if you are suffering from depression, 356 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: drug addiction, violent crime, and a system that's incapable of 357 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 3: coming to grips with reality. So let's start with the 358 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: notion we need an entire program of getting America ready 359 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 3: to be capable of competing with China. That's the first leg. 360 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: This is a three legged stool, and the first leg 361 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 3: is what do we have to do here at home 362 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 3: in order to get America to be more dynamic than China. 363 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: And that includes, by the way, policing up the Chinese. 364 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 3: When the degree to which the Chinese have penetrated our 365 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: society and the Chinese communists are on our campuses, their 366 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: money floats all over the place, they are engaged in spies. 367 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 3: They actually run police stations in the United States for 368 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: the purpose of pressuring Chinese by reminding them that their 369 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: families are back home and they can be punished if 370 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: they say or do the wrong thing. Second, we need 371 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 3: a complete overhaul of our national security system, both the 372 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: Defense Department, the eighteen intelligence agencies, our ability to operate 373 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: in terms of our manufacturing base, and we have to 374 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 3: start with a premise what would it take for the 375 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 3: United States to be more dynamic, more adaptive, faster moving 376 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: than the Chinese. That includes in space. Now we have 377 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 3: some breaks because despite government bureaucracy, despite incompetence, as a 378 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 3: very real likelihood than the next few months, Elon Musk 379 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: will successfully test his Starship, which is the largest, most 380 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 3: powerful rocket ever built with thirty six rocket engines. And 381 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 3: if he gets that working and reusable, which is his goal, 382 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: he has in a factory that will be producing something 383 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: like nine or ten a month. At that point. In space, 384 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 3: we have the potential to pull away from the Chinese 385 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: in a way that they just literally won't be able 386 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: to compete with. That's got to be our goal everywhere. 387 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 3: We have to completely overhaul our shipbuilding capabilities, because today 388 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 3: we can't build effective, competent warships fast enough and at 389 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: a reasonable price to compete with It. Is now the 390 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: largest navy in the world for the first time ever 391 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 3: is the Chinese Navy hen it's the first time now 392 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: since about nineteen seventeen that the US Navy's not been 393 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 3: the biggest navy in the world. And yet we have 394 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: no real sense of urgency, no real sense of rethinking 395 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 3: our shipbuilding program that has to be done. The Pentagon 396 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: is way too bloated, way too wasteful. We just had 397 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 3: a report that they miscounted the amount of aid they 398 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: were sending to Ukraine by six point two billion dollars. 399 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: Just a little accounting error. That gives you a sense 400 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 3: of the incompetence and the inefficiency of the system as 401 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: it currently operates. So the second leg of the stool 402 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: is to profoundly rethink all of our major elements of 403 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: national security. That includes the US Agency for International Development. 404 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: That includes the State Department, which is a disaster. The 405 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: State Department currently is more concerned about spreading the word 406 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: on transgender policies than it is about stopping the Chinese. 407 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 3: That includes the Defense Department, which is so bloated and 408 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 3: is more focused right now in being woke than on 409 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: being competent militarily. So all of that's got to be fixed. 410 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 3: The third leg of the stool is actually intellectual. We 411 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: were enormously helped in nineteen fifty when the United States 412 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: issued what was called National Securities Council Document NSC sixty eight. 413 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 3: NSC sixty eight was the basic document. It's available, it's 414 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 3: in print, it's not classified anymore. It was the basic 415 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: document which outlined the Cold War and which talked about 416 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: how to win the Cold War, and it outlined a 417 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: strategy which we followed all the way up to the 418 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 3: collapse of the Soviet Union in nineteen ninety one. We 419 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: don't have that today. We do not have a thorough 420 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: strategic understanding of the scale of the Chinese communist challenge, 421 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 3: of the things they're doing around the world, about what 422 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 3: we will need to do, both to contain them in 423 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: terms of their own economy, to contain them in terms 424 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: of their effort to infiltrate and dominate others countries, to 425 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: contain them in terms of the air growing military capability, 426 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: including in space, and to deal with their biological capabilities. 427 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, one way to think about the 428 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: entire disaster of the pandemic and COVID was that China 429 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: invests very heavily in biological warfare. I personally don't think 430 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 3: they deliberately released COVID. I think it was an accident, 431 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 3: but I think the scale of danger, the level to 432 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 3: which it shook the entire world, is a reminder that 433 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 3: these things are dangerous. Between artificial intelligence, biological breakthroughs, robotics, 434 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 3: and a variety of other things, we're in a different world, 435 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: and we are not today intellectually prepared to be competitive 436 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 3: and capable in that world. And so I think if 437 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 3: we're serious about surviving as a free country, if we're 438 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 3: serious about being the leading country in the world, we 439 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 3: have to match up all three of these legs of 440 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 3: the stool. First, we have to make sure that America 441 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 3: itself has been modernized, has become dramatically more of effective, 442 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: and has a focus on competence and on the work 443 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: ethic that enables us to once again be the most 444 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 3: entrepreneurial and productive society in the world. Second, we have 445 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 3: to profoundly overhaul all of our instruments of national security 446 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: because they, frankly today are too bureaucratic, too slow, too expensive, 447 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 3: and can't possibly keep up with the Chinese communist And Third, 448 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: we really need a serious period of intellectual ferment where 449 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 3: we talk it out. We didn't leap straight from nineteen 450 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 3: forty five to where we were by the summer of 451 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: nineteen fifty. It took five years of very smart people, 452 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: people who'd been in World War One and people who 453 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 3: went on to fight World War II, and it took 454 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 3: them five years to think through what it would take 455 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: to contain the Soviet Union. And the purpose of NSC 456 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 3: sixty eight was to minimize the danger of using nuclear weapons. 457 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: Nineteen forty nine, President Truman decided that we had to 458 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 3: build a hydrogen bomb, and Secretary of State Dean Acheson 459 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 3: said him, if you think the world is so dangerous 460 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: that we have to build a weapon whose only effective 461 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 3: use is to eliminate entire cities, shouldn't we try to 462 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 3: design a strategy. So we never used them, and of 463 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 3: course it was successful. We had a half century long 464 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 3: competition with the Soviet Union, and at the end of it, 465 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: the Soviet Union disappeared and we had never fought a 466 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 3: nuclear war. You can imagine many alternative histories in which 467 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: we stumbled into each other and we engaged in a 468 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: horrendous civilization ending conflict, or certainly a civilization crippling conflict. 469 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: That would have been a very, very different world. Well, 470 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: we have the same challenge. Now. We have very aggressive 471 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 3: Chinese behavior all over the planet. We have aggressive Chinese 472 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: economic behavior, aggressive Chinese intelligence behavior, aggressive Chinese military outreach, 473 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: an effort by the Chinese to undermine and drive out 474 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 3: the democracies and to create basically an alliance of the 475 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: dictatorships and the authoritarian and oligarchical systems. That's why the 476 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: Chinese are pretty comfortable with Cuba, They're pretty comfortable with 477 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 3: Nicaragua or Venezuela. They're pretty comfortable with the Iranians or 478 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: with Putin because they all share the same contempt for democracies. 479 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: They all share the same hostility to the United States, 480 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: and they all want to live in a world where 481 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: their particular approach, the strong man, the dictator, the oligarch 482 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: that approach is the dominant approach. And then they can 483 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: deal with each other because they recognize each other. They're 484 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: all dictators, they're all thugs. They all rely on a 485 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: secret police system. And the Chinese, by the way, have 486 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: made enormous progress at selling their security technology and their 487 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: policing technology to other dictatorships, so they become your friends. 488 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you want to make sure you have really 489 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 3: good photographic capability to track down people in the crowd. 490 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: Call the Chinese, they'll sell it to you. You want 491 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: to make sure you have a computer system that can 492 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 3: track every person in your country, Call Beijing. They've got 493 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: one available right now, and they'll give it to you 494 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: at a really good price with thirty year payout. We 495 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: totally underestimate the depth of our competition and the intensity 496 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 3: of our competition and their skills, and that has to 497 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: change if we're going to survive as a free, prosperous 498 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: and safe country. So I think the visit to Beijing 499 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: and the entire weakness and confusion of the Biden administration 500 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: is a good moment for us to recognize how much 501 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 3: we're going to have to do if America is going 502 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: to survive. Newtsworld is produced by Gingish three sixty and iHeartMedia. 503 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: Our executive producer is Guernsey Sloan. 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