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Speaker 1: This is the Chief's official podcast network. Take advantage of

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Speaker 1: the day. All right, when you get opportunity to this game,

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Speaker 1: you may can play. Hi, Michael, I'll touched out Kansas

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Speaker 1: City the Chiefs all right in the thick of a baby, Hello, Chiefs, Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: Mitch Alter is with you, the voice of the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: once again on this edition of Defending the Kingdom and

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Speaker 1: with my man the Shot, Barbershop, The Spider Man, Sean Barber,

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Speaker 1: ten year NFL veteran, and Barbershop. Great to see your family,

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Speaker 1: the pictures of your family at the June tenth some

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Speaker 1: of the things going on in Kansas City, but just

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Speaker 1: loving seeing your family and knowing it's you know, this

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Speaker 1: has been a something that's been a lot of discussion

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Speaker 1: between you and me and your family, and you throw

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Speaker 1: that in with COVID. It's been a very interesting off

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Speaker 1: season here. Yeah, definitely. And I have an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: actually being a link in that human chain that ran

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Speaker 1: from ninety fifth in Truth down to I think close

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Speaker 1: to Fourth Street in trust. Miles and miles of people, Uh,

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Speaker 1: just unified, UM showing solidarity and prayer. UM. So peaceful,

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Speaker 1: so so so powerful, so impactful. UM. And then having

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of learn about the history of

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Speaker 1: truth about how that has created that that that racial

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Speaker 1: divide amongst neighborhood, the neighborhood from one Kansas City brother

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Speaker 1: to another. UM. It's just something that in our you know,

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Speaker 1: in our in our in our push for equality and

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Speaker 1: our push to move the needle forward for everybody having

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Speaker 1: I think it's something that that definitely had to be done,

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Speaker 1: and I think I give it up to Church of

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Speaker 1: the Resurrection Pastor Hamilton, I think was one of the

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Speaker 1: UM lead some one of the champions in that cause.

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Speaker 1: But they Moore jumped in UM culture, House jumped in

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Speaker 1: the chiefs ambassadors, jumped in every of the Hunt family,

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Speaker 1: our community were at different parts of that that that

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Speaker 1: human chain, but the common thread was that we believed

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Speaker 1: that love was greater than hate. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: something that's a that's a resounding theme that here in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, we are Kansas City, and that's no matter

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Speaker 1: the shade color, no matter your background, where you were

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Speaker 1: born at when you're here on your part of this community.

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Speaker 1: We are Casey Shop. You and I've talked about this

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Speaker 1: and a big part of being involved in this league

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Speaker 1: is it is it real? Like you can tell if

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Speaker 1: guys are real or not. And I mean this is

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Speaker 1: obviously real. But when I see our guys and what

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Speaker 1: to work on this all you and I'll work on this.

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Speaker 1: We'll work on it together. But um, you know, we

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Speaker 1: surge forward. Well, speaking of pushing forward, surging forward, we

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Speaker 1: got to talk about training camp here because as it

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Speaker 1: stands on this edition of Defending the Kingdom, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's full steam ahead, stay on task and looking at

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Speaker 1: We did not have OTAs, we did not have mandatory

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Speaker 1: mini camp. They had Rookie Symposium. I guess virtually, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I've been a part a small part of

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Speaker 1: their academy basically in the summer, which is a I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know this your first year in the league that

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Speaker 1: it's like the service academies before they even start in

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Speaker 1: the fall. You're involved in the summer like you have

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Speaker 1: your own Beast barracks if you're going to West Point

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Speaker 1: before anybody you can started classes in football or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And so this group did not get that. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: didn't get all that. So now we're talking about Candle

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Speaker 1: Jerius Sneed or Bopee Keys or Lavert Hill or Davis.

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Speaker 1: Can they become week one helpers Nickel dime even in

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Speaker 1: special teams? How much did these guys miss because I

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Speaker 1: got to ask this question, I get this, I got

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Speaker 1: this us twice now on outside media outlets. How much

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Speaker 1: have they missed? And how much could that affect them

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Speaker 1: being ready to go a week one, first game of

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Speaker 1: the year against Houston. They missed a mountain. They missed

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Speaker 1: a mountain of information. My first year getting into league,

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Speaker 1: we did a rookie camp, and that week of rookie camp,

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Speaker 1: when we took every rep, I was exposed to eighty

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Speaker 1: percent of the defense and you had to It's like

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Speaker 1: that sponge you try to see how much you can

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Speaker 1: soak up. So when the veterans come back and your

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Speaker 1: reps are cut back dramatically, you have to learn everything

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Speaker 1: through just watching other guys do it. But you're the

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Speaker 1: expectation of you being able to go out and perform.

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Speaker 1: You're held to the same level of excellence, and so

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Speaker 1: that's very tough realizing these guys aren't going to have

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Speaker 1: as much time off the field to get around Coach

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Speaker 1: Merritt and Coach Madison and learn how to really practice

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Speaker 1: at our pace and the way we practice. It's so

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Speaker 1: many things besides just the excellent exes and os they

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Speaker 1: determine how the Chiefs practice at a championship level. It's

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Speaker 1: the pace, it's the tempo, it's the communication, it's how

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Speaker 1: guys hit the field, between the white lines. I'm practicing

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Speaker 1: on a championship level, and that's something that's hard for

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Speaker 1: any college kid, no matter if you came from the

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Speaker 1: Michigans or the Richmonds of this world. When you hit

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Speaker 1: the pro level, it's a difference. The speed changes. But

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Speaker 1: with that said, I think that there are certain training camps,

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Speaker 1: off season training camps, and workout facilities that if these

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Speaker 1: guys are smart, they're getting with their agents, they're getting

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Speaker 1: with other players, They're getting with guys that graduated before

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Speaker 1: them are in the league and say, hey, guys like

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Speaker 1: you've been in the league, you've been a part of this.

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Speaker 1: Let me go work out with you. Let me find

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Speaker 1: out where you're working at. I worked out in the

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Speaker 1: back end of my career, the last eight or nine

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Speaker 1: years of my career with a guy named Tom Shaw.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy now at the Walt Disney World World

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Speaker 1: of Sports. He does an NFL training I think Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott is a guy that works out down there in

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Speaker 1: a lot of NFL guys. To be ready for the pros,

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Speaker 1: you gotta kind of practice with pros you got. You

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Speaker 1: can't be working out in your own You got to

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Speaker 1: find other guys that are working at that same pace

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Speaker 1: with that same intensity to kind of see, um, um,

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Speaker 1: what is the level of competition gonna be like? So,

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Speaker 1: I mean I would encourage those guys, even with just

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Speaker 1: weeks left hind find somebody like a Tom Shall find

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Speaker 1: somebody um like with Pat Mahomes workouts. Um, I think

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Speaker 1: that's stroke um workout facility where they're doing all those

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Speaker 1: videos online. Call the leaders of this group, Call Honey Badger,

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Speaker 1: called Frank Clark. Call the guys that you know are

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Speaker 1: are really getting it in and working out at a

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Speaker 1: high level, and find out where they're working at and

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Speaker 1: find your way to get down there. Get to them, um,

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Speaker 1: so that you can hit training camp and running and

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Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about conditioning as one of

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Speaker 1: the things that you are I'm worried about. Well, we'll

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Speaker 1: close it out here. I mean, we can talk about

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Speaker 1: this team nearly intact from a Super Bowl championship. But

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Speaker 1: Kendall Fuller arguably would be the one guy going back

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Speaker 1: to he's kind of followed your path the chief and

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Speaker 1: a redskinting so, but Kendall was an exstanding player for

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Speaker 1: this team and could be that versatile corner safety type

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Speaker 1: and this interception at the end of Super Bowl fifty

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Speaker 1: four will be remembered forever. But here we go at

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Speaker 1: this group for corners. I'm excited a little bit with

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Speaker 1: the unknown. I think there's athleticism here of these young guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for various Ward to make that jump out.

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Speaker 1: I think for Shaw, Advent and especially can make that

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Speaker 1: jump up, and then all these other guys who can emerge.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see it, and hopefully we'll get

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Speaker 1: together soon and put these corners up and have a

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Speaker 1: camp battle. Man. I would rather have a team, which

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Speaker 1: the national media caused our cornerbacks is kryptonite, but we

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Speaker 1: know their potential is through the roof, then have a

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Speaker 1: team that says, oh, we have a good cornerback group,

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Speaker 1: but has no potential like that. Where as good we've

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Speaker 1: already tapped out. Where as good as we're gonna be,

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Speaker 1: the league knows that they're not gonna get any better.

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Speaker 1: So I don't want. I don't want. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be. I don't want to be half fear of

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Speaker 1: being great because I'm happy as fact would being good.

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Speaker 1: So I'll take the kryptonite, give me, give me mat corners.

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Speaker 1: I'll take the kryptonite. I'll be the superman. But what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna look forward to these guys getting after it

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Speaker 1: and we know it. Coach Spagnola the way he pulls

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Speaker 1: gas it aside, fine tunes details their work and with

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Speaker 1: Coach Madison and Coach Merritt with their supervision, man it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think sky's the limit for this dB group.

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Speaker 1: We'll just close it here. All those Alex Luthors out

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Speaker 1: there on the Chief schedule, get ready and don't underestimate

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Speaker 1: these guys as we get ready to run it back.

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Speaker 1: Thanks shop Sean Barber, our guy here and again just

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Speaker 1: perished blessings to you and your family family as we

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Speaker 1: push Sean in a lot of different endeavors here, I'm

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Speaker 1: at Cholda's voice the Chiefs we do get ready to

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Speaker 1: run it back and get ready for this camp battle

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Speaker 1: at cornerback for your defending world champions. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: to The Chief's official podcast network to touch down, loush

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Speaker 1: it down and the celebration begins to their head