Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we can only hope we
Speaker 1: look as good as Jimmy Johnson at eighty one years old. Hell,
Speaker 1: I hope I'm alive at eighty one years old.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I'm in the Chris Westling podcast studio and I'm joined
Speaker 1: by my friend Patrick Claybonn. Good to be back in
Speaker 1: person with you, buddy, We're back.
Speaker 3: The travels went well, you guys were killing it at
Speaker 3: the Combine. This was it was an illustrious week of
Speaker 3: content and I just know our fearless leader had us
Speaker 3: repped well.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 1: It was really fun out there. And yes, I taped
Speaker 1: a show back in Los Angeles with Nick Shook, who
Speaker 1: you know, was just straight off of Saint Elmo's on
Speaker 1: Sunday nights. I still feel like the Chemtrails of the
Speaker 1: Combine is not quite over yet. In fact, we're going
Speaker 1: to have on Colleen Woolf on our next show and
Speaker 1: she might have some just tails from the combine.
Speaker 2: Just like lathered and cocktail.
Speaker 1: Well just she things happen with her and Jordan Rodrigue
Speaker 1: also like, so we'll see, like it's not over yet.
Speaker 1: And yet I bring that up to say, like, okay,
Speaker 1: that's just ending and we're six days away from free
Speaker 1: agency starting like it's here. It it never really does.
Speaker 1: This is kind of a calm before the storm week,
Speaker 1: and yet there's gonna be a lot of cuts. We
Speaker 1: have a few of those to talk about today. There's
Speaker 1: gonna be some trades. So before the off season starts,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go through the AFC East. We went through
Speaker 1: the NFC a couple weeks back. We're gonna go through
Speaker 1: the AFC this week and preview their off season. Throughout
Speaker 1: the week, we're gonna be talking about free agents. Guys
Speaker 1: we want to sign, just moves, we want to see
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and updating you every day on the news.
Speaker 1: It is in the name. This is a week where
Speaker 1: I'm happy and believe that the daily format will bear
Speaker 1: fruit for the listeners.
Speaker 2: It always has scratched. Sure, don't tell yourself short.
Speaker 1: I know, but like May, it's gonna be just like
Speaker 1: a little bit different. We're gonna have fun. But there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of news this week. Let's start
Speaker 1: with it. Darius Slay is no longer a Philadelphia Eagle,
Speaker 1: in a move that didn't seem to surprise Darius Slay
Speaker 1: but still for some reason surprises me. They cut the man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thirty four year old coming off a pretty good season.
Speaker 1: I went and checked around. I was like, Darius Slay
Speaker 1: was pretty good last year, right, And I went and
Speaker 1: checked people around the team and everything.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, he was good last year, And
Speaker 4: I have to imagine because there's a path back, but
Speaker 4: just at this juncture to try to figure it out
Speaker 4: before the draft, before free agency, before everything is set,
Speaker 4: to give Darius a chance because he said he only
Speaker 4: wants to play one more year.
Speaker 3: Yes, so it would seem it would seem like once
Speaker 3: we've navigated that, there'll be an opportunity for him to
Speaker 3: come back for his final hurrah for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2: I'll say that as.
Speaker 1: We yeah, as we're talking about him, Like, am I
Speaker 1: jumping the gun on even putting this out there? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's one of the top stories on NFL dot Com,
Speaker 1: So I don't think so. But then I look at
Speaker 1: his base salary. They're not even really saving any money.
Speaker 1: I mean they are if they make him a post
Speaker 1: June first cut, you say, like four million dollars, but
Speaker 1: you gotta wait till June. They're a team that kind
Speaker 1: of needs cap space. Now it doesn't totally make sense
Speaker 1: to me, and then I suddenly am like having flashbacks
Speaker 1: to other Eagles negotiations where they have said they're going
Speaker 1: to cut a guy, but then like Brandon Graham, and
Speaker 1: then it ends up working out in the end. So
Speaker 1: stay tuned. But either way, I think Darius Slay has
Speaker 1: some good football left in him. I do think they
Speaker 1: are fans of the young man Keeley Ringo, who did
Speaker 1: not get a lot to run this year, but apparently
Speaker 1: had a good training camp. Isaiah Rodgers played quite well
Speaker 1: for them. He is a Yeah, he's a free agent,
Speaker 1: so he's not necessarily back, but maybe he's someone they
Speaker 1: look at. We could bring him back for a couple
Speaker 1: of years, and they like Ringo. So just the cornerback
Speaker 1: position in flux a lot in flux. In Philadelphia, the
Speaker 1: Bengals officially tagged t Higgins. We expected that to happen.
Speaker 1: T Higgins doesn't seem like thrilled about all.
Speaker 3: No, like, yeah, it's a league wide cost control metric
Speaker 3: that nobody really enjoys. I guess there's in some circumstances
Speaker 3: it can work out for the player, but this is
Speaker 3: you would like long term security. And yeah, I saw
Speaker 3: an article that said, like T Higgins post cryptic message
Speaker 3: on social media and the message was I'll let when
Speaker 3: I know, I'll let y'all know. I'm like, what's the
Speaker 3: cryptic part. It's like, Oh, he's gonna be in a
Speaker 3: bad mood. Well, yeah, like he would like to have
Speaker 3: this thing done. And how many times does he really
Speaker 3: need to say that? It just it feels like sometimes
Speaker 3: these things take unnecessarily long.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely true. And you got to be careful with
Speaker 1: what articles you find out there. This is the first
Speaker 1: full NFL offseason with like mass AI articles in the
Speaker 1: wilderness because these last couple of weeks when I'm doing
Speaker 1: my research, you know on Google is part of that tool,
Speaker 1: and you got you gotta be careful out there. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. It's sports, keita or what.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. It seems like it's AI.
Speaker 1: There's a lot there's a lot of AI articles out
Speaker 1: there that you click on. It's got a decent headline.
Speaker 1: I mean, they get you and then you're like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: this is just slop regurgitated.
Speaker 3: It's bad, and then so that slop gets ingested into
Speaker 3: the AI right right, and it gets regurgitated as Google's
Speaker 3: very first thing, which is how we wound up with
Speaker 3: that rule that didn't exist last year about on side
Speaker 3: kicks and timing, and everybody's like, oh, the rule book
Speaker 3: says you can't do this.
Speaker 2: It never said that, It never said that anywhere.
Speaker 1: And like, how can I explain this and teach this
Speaker 1: to my children? How are they supposed to be so
Speaker 1: conversant in like figuring out what's It's just very annoying.
Speaker 1: Let's move on from that. Oh, I did want to
Speaker 1: bring up to you though you your name came up
Speaker 1: at the dinner table. Oh, over the weekend's never good.
Speaker 1: The combine was on and like no one was working out,
Speaker 1: and my wife thought like, oh, that they should force
Speaker 1: them to do the combine, Like this is this is
Speaker 1: this is trash, like not knowing you know, great is
Speaker 1: working out at the comment anymore. It's just ruining the event.
Speaker 1: They should force them. And I was like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: my friend I'm hearing my friend Patrick would tell you
Speaker 1: that this the entire kind of draft system. You know,
Speaker 1: what other industry is there where they're you know, they
Speaker 1: could make a lot more money. But that's capped and
Speaker 1: they can't choose where they go, and so this is
Speaker 1: just one small bit of not fighting back. But like, hey,
Speaker 1: you're going to draft me anyways if it's good enough,
Speaker 1: So why do I have to do this?
Speaker 3: And to those folks like I share your concerns, pay them,
Speaker 3: pay them to do the combine. You get more people
Speaker 3: working out, you get a better show if you would
Speaker 3: like more people working out.
Speaker 1: It's it's unfortunately for the NFL network and for everyone
Speaker 1: who covers it. But if the NFL Scouting Combine becomes
Speaker 1: mostly an event for like picks twenty five through the
Speaker 1: seventh round, those people that they're they're going to be working,
Speaker 1: They're going to continue to work out. It's not the
Speaker 1: end of the world. It's still very useful. It's useful
Speaker 1: for other reasons. Obviously that the medical and the interviews.
Speaker 1: I think that's what teams get out of it anyways.
Speaker 1: But if the on field stuff ends up just being
Speaker 1: kind of rounds two through seven, well that's still most
Speaker 1: of the NFL draft, and that might be what it
Speaker 1: turns out to be, because those guys are gonna want
Speaker 1: to prove themselves. They're Unfortunately they don't have the luxury
Speaker 1: to skip it.
Speaker 3: I think one thing that might help because we've seen
Speaker 3: multiple incidents where the medicals are an ordeal, like that's
Speaker 3: a lot of time. I think it's invested in a
Speaker 3: truncated week where you're having a lot of conversations. Maybe
Speaker 3: if the medicals were off site and we prioritize the
Speaker 3: workouts and the interviews, maybe that's a path forward. But
Speaker 3: it's a great event and we get to meet guys
Speaker 3: and understand a little bit more about them and see
Speaker 3: them all in the same place. So I think it's
Speaker 3: great for evaluation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the interview part is great for the
Speaker 1: teams to just get that much. I mean, how many
Speaker 1: people do I make a decision about within the first
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, like most. I think it's funny. Sean McVay
Speaker 1: excited that Matthew Stafford is back. He said he was
Speaker 1: sleeping better and Stafford decided to rejoin the Rams. Let's
Speaker 1: listen to a little Sean mcvacebook with the media on Monday.
Speaker 5: You know, we've taken it a year at a time
Speaker 5: and he's earned the right, I believe, to be able
Speaker 5: to say, hey, I think he could play for a
Speaker 5: few more years if that's what he wanted. But we've
Speaker 5: always had great dialogue and I think it's really kind
Speaker 5: of been a year to year thing. He's obviously under
Speaker 5: contract for two more years with us, but as long
Speaker 5: as he wants to play, I know we're feeling really
Speaker 5: good about that.
Speaker 1: Interesting to me. Still a year to year contract, didn't
Speaker 1: rip it up, didn't start a new contract. Still don't
Speaker 1: have all the details. I really think the Rams got
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford to basically return, and maybe they sweetened it
Speaker 1: a little bit, but it was clear based on the reporting,
Speaker 1: the Giants and the Raiders were willing to essentially guarantee
Speaker 1: two years. The Rams aren't doing that. Based on what
Speaker 1: McVeigh just said, it's a year to year thing and
Speaker 1: we could be revisiting this again. And it's great for
Speaker 1: most parties, I think, if you know, maybe not Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford's like financial advice, he has slightly less money to
Speaker 1: work with, but everyone else it's great for Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, and this was a Philadelphia Eagles team that was
Speaker 3: dominant right throughout the playoffs, and the only moment of
Speaker 3: fear was Matthew Stafford in the snow in Philadelphia right
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, and this team is so much better
Speaker 3: with Stafford, and the idea that you would have this
Speaker 3: very good base of a team now scrounging for the
Speaker 3: Darnolds of the world after living this lap of luxury.
Speaker 3: It seems like ridiculous in hindsight, but I think there
Speaker 3: was an opportunity for Matt to maybe do some skiing
Speaker 3: as right as that was with controversy, and I'm glad
Speaker 3: you were in India for that, but also to see
Speaker 3: what these other teams could say so that he could
Speaker 3: come back and he could know and the Rams could
Speaker 3: know that that this matchup was the best for both
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought it was also interesting that McVeigh confirmed
Speaker 1: Rob Havenstein and Tyler Higbee are both back. Maybe not
Speaker 1: huge names to the general public, but the two guys
Speaker 1: who have been on that roster the longest, and so
Speaker 1: if they were trying to turn over their roster and
Speaker 1: really look to the future, they would maybe be getting
Speaker 1: rid of these guys instead. He's back, Stafford's back. They're
Speaker 1: both probably going to be starting this year, and they
Speaker 1: are definitely looking to contend while getting younger. I really
Speaker 1: think they're going to draft a quarterback this year with
Speaker 1: a second or third round pick, maybe even a first
Speaker 1: round pick. I think they're going to look to the
Speaker 1: future at quarterback. It's a weird draft to do that,
Speaker 1: but there are some There are some guys and you
Speaker 1: only have to fall in love with one in the
Speaker 1: second or third round. People connecting Jackson Dart to them,
Speaker 1: We'll see. I just think that this is time for
Speaker 1: them to start working on a new guy.
Speaker 3: He did say that it was a very long process
Speaker 3: last time. This time it was significantly shorter. Yes, maybe
Speaker 3: it'll be a couple of days. Yeah, next year, you
Speaker 3: just get Matthew Stafford back. Regardless of what they do
Speaker 3: future quarterback plans, I think Stafford is probably still going
Speaker 3: to be pretty good.
Speaker 1: Now. Okay, so some titans of our industry in the
Speaker 1: football world have retired over the last week. We're going
Speaker 1: to get to our friend Ron wolf Lee at the
Speaker 1: very end of the show. The Arizona Cardinal is great.
Speaker 1: But first we're going to talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johns.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: He's been on the air for Fox for thirty one years.
Speaker 1: He is eighty one years old. When I looked up
Speaker 1: his age like a year ago. For some reason. I
Speaker 1: was stunned that Jimmy Johnson was eighty, not just because
Speaker 1: his hair, but he's sharp, a lot of energy, you
Speaker 1: know when you see Jimmy Johnson. That's not true for
Speaker 1: everyone that stays on TV forever, but it was true
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Johnson. Just just happy trails, always a pleasant figure
Speaker 1: in the landscape.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it spans multiple generations that have no connection with
Speaker 3: Jimmy Johnson as a football coach, especially right at Miami
Speaker 3: right and or with the Dallas Cowboys. They know him
Speaker 3: as that you mentioned it, energetic, friendly voice on Sunday mornings,
Speaker 3: and congratulations to at the end of a great career
Speaker 3: navigating triph relationships with Jerry Jones and he finally was
Speaker 3: able to to heal that thing up like that.
Speaker 2: That's a very difficult thing to do, and he did
Speaker 2: it in his own term. How about them? Coach?
Speaker 1: He also, you know, worked out alongside Terry Bradshaw and
Speaker 1: Howie Long that entire time. My first job in sports media,
Speaker 1: I think this is true, was for Fox on the
Speaker 1: Weekends writing shot sheets, as they call him, like a
Speaker 1: floor above Jimmy Johnson and Terry Bradshaw. But for James
Speaker 1: Brown and mostly Terry Bradshaw to read while they did
Speaker 1: their highlights around two thousand and one, two thousand and
Speaker 1: two summers or football seasons, I believe. Yeah, the two
Speaker 1: thousand and one season was the first one, and that
Speaker 1: was that was a lot of fun. And it was
Speaker 1: the same guys back then. They were they were beloved.
Speaker 1: Everyone just loved them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's it's rare to keep keep a squad together
Speaker 3: for that long. So congratulations, And now what are we doing?
Speaker 3: What's Fox going to do? Are they putting in that?
Speaker 1: I mean, they can live without. They have like seventeen
Speaker 1: guys on that right now. It seems like it'd be
Speaker 1: time for Terry bratch Out to step away, but I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be up to him. They're loyal to him.
Speaker 1: He's so he's still there, Howie long still there, gronks
Speaker 1: there unless he is back in the NFL. Like, they
Speaker 1: got a lot of dudes. A couple just quick items.
Speaker 1: The Packers signed Isaiah mcduffee two years, eight million dollars.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of three down linebackers available. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about that one because there's not really many guys
Speaker 1: in the draft that are highly thought of like that
Speaker 1: might be the number one position to not draft unfortunately,
Speaker 1: because it's so hard, it's so hard to get good
Speaker 1: at it quickly that players really are better by the
Speaker 1: time they get to their end of the contract and
Speaker 1: for some reason, they're all on they're all available. There's
Speaker 1: like seven or eight really good three down linebackers available.
Speaker 1: The Packers decided not to go that route, but they
Speaker 1: like Isaiah mcduffee and they got them for cheap.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It feels like a lot of teams are trying to
Speaker 3: up on value on linebackers and they want like edge
Speaker 3: rush potential. So you get a lot of guys that
Speaker 3: are like, like, coming in this year, jahe hot Campbell
Speaker 3: is going to get a lot of attention.
Speaker 1: He's probably a first round pick after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not many, Yeah, and so like it's not necessarily
Speaker 3: that level of player an athlete, but you get a
Speaker 3: lot of guys, Well, we can get edge rush value
Speaker 3: in this guy, but this guy is just a just
Speaker 3: a linebaker. But like that idea of just a linebacker,
Speaker 3: I feel like it is going to be falling out
Speaker 3: of vogue after a few teams in situations where it's
Speaker 3: like we really need people to be able to execute
Speaker 3: at this position.
Speaker 2: So hopefully the cycle is coming.
Speaker 1: Back, and there's just less of them. To be fair,
Speaker 1: it used to be there was three of them on
Speaker 1: the field. Now there's two. Sometimes there's one. But just
Speaker 1: a recap, you guys can check out the top one
Speaker 1: to one free agents Zach Bond, Nick Bolton, two big
Speaker 1: time players Ernest Jones who turned the Seahawks season around.
Speaker 2: Those are all Super Bowl champions.
Speaker 1: Dray green Law, who's one of the better linebackers the
Speaker 1: last five or six years. Jamie and Sherwood, who was
Speaker 1: the Jets team MVP last year as voted by the
Speaker 1: players on the team, over Sauce Gardner, over Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: over anyone else that would have been in contention for
Speaker 1: that good player. Robert Splane who who had a great
Speaker 1: career revival with the Raiders, Bobby Wagner, Levonte, David Kaizer White,
Speaker 1: who I had someone tell me what's a top eight
Speaker 1: linebacker in the league. I was like, I love Kaizer White.
Speaker 1: That's pretty bold. Tyrol Dodson is a good player. E
Speaker 1: J Speed, like Cody Barton. There's just Willie Gay. There's
Speaker 1: lots of guys out there at that position. So I
Speaker 1: just thought I would highlight that as one comes off
Speaker 1: the board, and then yeah, a couple other cuts out there.
Speaker 1: Alex Kappa, for instance, with the Bengals is no longer
Speaker 1: and people immediately saying like, oh, let's sign Alex Kapa.
Speaker 1: If the Bengals are cutting you as an offensive lineman
Speaker 1: like they need offensive lineman, that's not a great sign.
Speaker 1: So he is not going into my one oh one
Speaker 1: because to me, that is a red flag that in
Speaker 1: his PFF score.
Speaker 3: But you could make the case though, in support of
Speaker 3: Alex Kappa, the Bengals financial situation maybe devoted elsewhere here
Speaker 3: for a little bit, and maybe to Tea maybe that's yeah.
Speaker 1: But if he was, if he was like an above
Speaker 1: average starter, you're just not going to cut him. His
Speaker 1: number is not too great, not too crazy. All right,
Speaker 1: we're going to take a quick break. We're going to
Speaker 1: preview the AFC East off season, and yes we're going
Speaker 1: to honor mister Wolfe before the show is over. Back
Speaker 1: on NFL Daily and back in the mix with my
Speaker 1: friend Patrick, previewing the off season before it really gets
Speaker 1: going in less than a week. Crazy, So we got
Speaker 1: to get these divisions in and we are going to
Speaker 1: a division that's near and dear to my heart, to Eric,
Speaker 1: our producer's heart, a division the Bills have absolutely dominated
Speaker 1: for the last five years. Pretty good, pretty good. They
Speaker 1: want to take the next step, but you know, enjoy
Speaker 1: the good times while they're here. Eric, We're going to
Speaker 1: put seven minutes on the clock and we're going to
Speaker 1: go through all four of these teams breaking down what
Speaker 1: they need to do this offseason. Let's hit it. Patrick,
Speaker 1: O'll kick us off with a question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we get a team that is in the
Speaker 3: red one of six teams that are in the red
Speaker 3: salary cap wise as of right now. You get one
Speaker 3: shot at a restructure for an under thirty year old
Speaker 3: Josh Allen still twenty eight years old. You get one
Speaker 3: shot at a restructure. What do you prioritize here with
Speaker 3: this money, with this again just winning an MVP peak
Speaker 3: in the problem of his career. You've got some spots
Speaker 3: on the team, corner, defensive line, wide receiver. Where do
Speaker 3: you start with? The limited opportunity of restructure provides you
Speaker 3: on a team that could have won the Super Bowl
Speaker 3: last year. Right, But because it's football, randomness happens that
Speaker 3: you know that you don't need to do a lot,
Speaker 3: so what do you do with it?
Speaker 1: I think you prioritize defensive difference makers, primarily in the front,
Speaker 1: and that that kind of brings up, you know, another
Speaker 1: way they can make some room, which is cutting von Miller.
Speaker 1: I think that's going to happen. I don't know. If
Speaker 1: they restructure Josh Allen's contract this year, they actually might
Speaker 1: wait another year until, like the money goes up. There
Speaker 1: are a couple guys who have some long term deals
Speaker 1: that they can, you know, squeeze some money, you know,
Speaker 1: some coins from the couch or whatever. At Oliver is one,
Speaker 1: I believe Dion Dawkins is another one. They actually make
Speaker 1: pretty similar base salaries to where Josh Allen is right now.
Speaker 1: So yes, the bills are ten million over the cap
Speaker 1: as we talk. But between those restructures in von Miller,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll be able to do it. And yet they
Speaker 1: are a team where I think it affects them because
Speaker 1: I feel like they have a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1: We'll get to it. Overall, to me, it's it's a
Speaker 1: little more juice in the front, because maybe it's unfair
Speaker 1: to count on Josh to just make everyone better around him.
Speaker 1: But I think that's working pretty well. The offensive line
Speaker 1: is in good shape too. Yeah, the offensive.
Speaker 3: Line is it's a rarity right when you look around
Speaker 3: the league to see the teams that are in contention,
Speaker 3: have these you know, solid guys up front that aren't
Speaker 3: necessarily agent like you got.
Speaker 1: They're going to be in year three of this exact
Speaker 1: same offensive line. So it's crazy.
Speaker 3: So it ain't broke, But my question is right because
Speaker 3: they are so close, it just feels like you can't
Speaker 3: afford not to try right right, and so like along
Speaker 3: with making the changes, whatever changes you want to make
Speaker 3: to Vaughan's deal, that's one thing, But Josh is the franchise.
Speaker 3: This one, Like, a restructure is not a bad thing.
Speaker 3: It just depends on when you want to.
Speaker 1: Do it right. It's just when you feel like you
Speaker 1: can create the most room. So they could restructure more
Speaker 1: than one. Certainly they need to create open space part
Speaker 1: of the reason. And now transition to some of the
Speaker 1: stuff they can do thinking ahead, They've already resigned Khalils
Speaker 1: Shakir and I was like, wow, that was early, and
Speaker 1: then I looked how many of their players are up
Speaker 1: for free agency next year. It's crazy Christian Benford who
Speaker 1: has evolved into a number one cornerback, a really good player,
Speaker 1: Greg Russou.
Speaker 2: Got to keep them.
Speaker 1: I mean they keep everyone, James Cook, Trull Bernard, maybe
Speaker 1: they don't do an early deal with him. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of their best players are up next season. So
Speaker 1: they are in a really tricky spot. All I'm saying
Speaker 1: is you got to add to this roster. Those guys
Speaker 1: are already there, and you're thinking about next year, and
Speaker 1: you're thinking about filling the holes in free agency from
Speaker 1: the guys that are leaving this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just that there's not much to add, Like
Speaker 3: I don't think that there's this like oh, because I
Speaker 3: understand the feeling that they got to take a next step.
Speaker 2: Like they're there, They're a good.
Speaker 3: Tention, right, So so how do you facilitate this roster
Speaker 3: in the best way to be to do what they
Speaker 3: need because they're not far. I think some talent in
Speaker 3: the secondary, some talent, some extra talent in depth at
Speaker 3: Russia or the in the interior next to Ed Oliver
Speaker 3: takes them where they need to be.
Speaker 2: I just don't feel like they can afford to wait.
Speaker 1: Right, And so Matt Collins, who contributed quite a bit
Speaker 1: to them last year, and a Mari Cooper are both
Speaker 1: free agents. I don't think they're necessarily keeping Amari Cooper,
Speaker 1: but they have Khalil Shakir, Curtis Samuel, and Kean Coleman
Speaker 1: under contract next year. You probably want to add at
Speaker 1: least one receiver. They have two guys in my top actually,
Speaker 1: Tamar Hamlin just missed my top one oh one. In
Speaker 1: my top one oh five. Razuel Douglas, who I think
Speaker 1: might be Leaving's kind of just been up and down there,
Speaker 1: so you need another cornerback. And Damar Hamlin. We'll see
Speaker 1: if they bring him back or not. They have drafted
Speaker 1: at that position with Cole Bishop and have some guys
Speaker 1: who have played for them, so it would be a
Speaker 1: shame to see him play elsewhere. But yeah, sometimes I
Speaker 1: think there's this feelings like we got to make a
Speaker 1: big push, but it's like you are there. They've done
Speaker 1: a good job balancing that throughout the last handful of years,
Speaker 1: will staying right at the top, and yet like there's
Speaker 1: it's not an easy offseason for this team without a
Speaker 1: lot of cap space, and you would like a little
Speaker 1: more juice from that wide receiver room other than Kean
Speaker 1: Coleman just getting better.
Speaker 3: Right, And I think it helps to to go ahead
Speaker 3: and lock up Shakira, get that figured out. You can
Speaker 3: maybe save some money and relying on Mike White and
Speaker 3: not necessarily have Mitchell Trubisky. I mean that's a smaller
Speaker 3: und three million dollars, but ultimately, like you look, you
Speaker 3: can get good contributing players in that three to five
Speaker 3: million dollar range. And so like if the whole plane's
Speaker 3: built out of Josh anyway, I think it would be
Speaker 3: tough to rely and project kyer Elm because I know
Speaker 3: he can grow, right to project that growth for him,
Speaker 3: you could not like a not saying like somebody like
Speaker 3: a Sante Samuel Jr. Is like a bargain basement guy.
Speaker 3: But you can draft the corner and bring in not
Speaker 3: top tier free agents but on down the list because
Speaker 3: I know, like like somebody like Byron Murphy right would
Speaker 3: be be a dream. But I don't I don't think
Speaker 3: they're in that. I don't think Murphy DJ Reid range right.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be spending huge maybe one
Speaker 1: like I think they would spend more on the edge
Speaker 1: if they were gonna spend some money and then maybe
Speaker 1: at receiver. We'll see. By the way, they have an
Speaker 1: extra second round pick from the Vikings did a good
Speaker 1: bit as business part of that Dallas Turner trade where
Speaker 1: the Vikings, like you know, basically gave up like a
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett package to draft Dallas Turner. We'll see how
Speaker 1: that works out. But they do have an extra second
Speaker 1: round pick, so that that is nice for the Bills.
Speaker 1: They do not have their third round pick. They are
Speaker 1: missing that. They gave it last year to the Eagles.
Speaker 1: One of those that always a year later, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I gave a twenty four to fourth for a twenty
Speaker 1: you know, once you get to the next year, it's
Speaker 1: very annoying. But they they did one of those where
Speaker 1: they got an extra pick last year. All right, let's
Speaker 1: go to the New York Jets. Twenty three million dollars
Speaker 1: in cap space. There we go, so about average in
Speaker 1: terms of how it goes this year. They have no
Speaker 1: third round pick because of the DeVante Adams trade. That's
Speaker 1: not aging particularly well. But I didn't have a problem
Speaker 1: with it at the time, so I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say I had a problem with it now, but they
Speaker 1: do have Detroit's third round pick that they got in
Speaker 1: one of those similar swaps. I was just talking about
Speaker 1: last year where the Detroit wanted to move up and
Speaker 1: they got an extra third, So they basically have a
Speaker 1: normal array of picks. Look, my question for this team
Speaker 1: is where do they go at quarterback? Weirdly, the Jets
Speaker 1: have not been talked about much in terms of the
Speaker 1: quarterback position, like they were not in on Stafford like
Speaker 1: the Giants were. When you're hearing about Darnold for obvious reasons,
Speaker 1: They're not really talked about there. So I mean, I
Speaker 1: am curious what their approach is going to be at.
Speaker 2: Court Tock Dimes returns to.
Speaker 1: Now you got to get him out of the city
Speaker 1: for his own sake. Yeah, I know you're always saying, well,
Speaker 1: New York's just another place to play, but I just
Speaker 1: feel like he needs a new start. Maybe like can
Speaker 1: he go back to Duke, you know, something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, the Panthers just hang out with he Brices
Speaker 1: back up or something, or the Colts, you know like that.
Speaker 1: That makes sense to me. Just something quiet, something where
Speaker 1: you can just go play foosball at night.
Speaker 3: I don't know, there's it feels there is talent right
Speaker 3: on the same I mean twenty percent of the cap
Speaker 3: over twenty percent of the cap as of right now
Speaker 3: is devoted to DeVante and Aaron Rodgers. Yeah right, and
Speaker 3: so like there's there's some level of hope, like but
Speaker 3: they're like nobody's gonna put them on fraud Watch next
Speaker 3: year because like it's it's argument.
Speaker 1: The rosters looks terrible to me. So I mentioned there's
Speaker 1: twenty three million in cap space. We talked about the
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams potential cut and or trade on our last show.
Speaker 1: They can save thirty million dollars just by cutting DeVante Adams.
Speaker 1: That's old school, that's kind of fun. Like that means
Speaker 1: there weren't all these crazy restructures. You know, if they
Speaker 1: trade them, they save plenty as well, and you get
Speaker 1: something back. It'd be over twenty But like they say,
Speaker 1: they save thirty just by cutting them. So right there,
Speaker 1: now you have fifty three million in cap space. Rogers,
Speaker 1: you could actually make the decision to eat all of
Speaker 1: his dead money this year because you opened up so
Speaker 1: much with DeVante, or you could spread it out if
Speaker 1: you chose to. So they have options. They will have
Speaker 1: more than enough money to spend, and to me, it's
Speaker 1: easier to say what they have versus what they need
Speaker 1: because much like the next two teams we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about the Dolphins in the especially the Patriots, they
Speaker 1: have needs almost everywhere. Here's what the Jets do. Have
Speaker 1: a really great young running back room, don't need to
Speaker 1: add to that. Like them, a sneaky gray interior offensive line.
Speaker 1: John Simpson was free agent pickup who played fine for them,
Speaker 1: Joe Tipman, who they like was a young center, and
Speaker 1: Elijah Arrah Tucker. So that you've got your interior line,
Speaker 1: that's about it. You also have premier talent, but that doesn't,
Speaker 1: you know, fix your whole position. So you have three
Speaker 1: guys who I would say are absolutely premier players, Quinn Williams,
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner, and Garrett Wilson, two of whom are up
Speaker 1: for new contract extensions potentially this offseason. And other than that,
Speaker 1: like you really don't have a lot. You have to
Speaker 1: replace almost your entire secondary. You have a ton of backups.
Speaker 1: Both your tackles are free agents, your tight ends free
Speaker 1: agent Hassan Raddick who they brought in as a free agent,
Speaker 1: Jamien Sherwood's a free agent, like DJ Reid is one
Speaker 1: of my top free agents at cornerback. Like you have
Speaker 1: a lot of big time needs, and you have more
Speaker 1: guys from the old regime you might cut. So this
Speaker 1: is a team that I think is a little closer
Speaker 1: to starting over than maybe people realize.
Speaker 3: So when you say starting over, would would that mean
Speaker 3: that like a Garrett Wilson or a Sauce Gardner would
Speaker 3: be like trade candidate.
Speaker 1: No, because I think that what's the point of trying
Speaker 1: to find good play you want to build around them.
Speaker 1: But what I mean is there are other guys I
Speaker 1: didn't mention that you could say are likely gone. Alan Lazard.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be around Tyron Smith.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be around DJ Reid.
Speaker 1: Are they going to pay to keep Maybe? Actually, like
Speaker 1: they have the money to do if they liked it.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, like all these positions, all these got. Morgan
Speaker 1: Moses was their starting rate tackle. He's a free agent.
Speaker 1: You only have like five, six, seven starters when I
Speaker 1: look up and down the list, that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: It's actually one of the lower numbers in the entire league.
Speaker 1: So the Jets, they're really going to test their new
Speaker 1: general manager, Darren Muji.
Speaker 3: You do get Jermaine Johnson hopefully back after the injury,
Speaker 3: so you get some talent back there.
Speaker 1: Like there's Olufashionu looks like a left tackle starter for
Speaker 1: the future.
Speaker 3: There's places to make this team viable. But whether it's
Speaker 3: you know, trying to make a case for Kirk, you know,
Speaker 3: over over Cleveland, maybe that that that what's your whistle
Speaker 3: a little bit more than dimes.
Speaker 1: Perhaps, Yeah, they if people forgot the Jets, you know.
Speaker 1: Of course, with Aaron Glenn as the new head coach,
Speaker 1: hired a man named Tanner Engstron as his offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: a young, up and coming, innovative mind. By all accounts
Speaker 1: that was a passing game coordinator for the Lions, and
Speaker 1: so Aaron Glenn knew him there. And if Aaron Glenn
Speaker 1: is like his old boss Dan Campbell, he's he's good
Speaker 1: at finding the right people to hire. But man, they
Speaker 1: are really kind of starting over from scratch, and it's
Speaker 1: there's just a little bit there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: bad buzz about Darren Moujie. I'm gonna say it, like
Speaker 1: not much of a presence at the Comonium combine buzz. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit. Oh no, just like was maybe a
Speaker 1: surprising hire that some people might interpret that a guy
Speaker 1: that's hired so that other people can kind of be
Speaker 1: more powerful. I don't know who that would be exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean Aaron Glenn would be number one. That's maybe
Speaker 1: more of the Aaron Glenn Show. They also hired Rick
Speaker 1: Spielman from the thirty third team as a special advisor.
Speaker 1: He's a long time and quite successful general manager. By
Speaker 1: the way, with the Vikings and Mujie, there was a
Speaker 1: little bit of buzz of like was he a guy
Speaker 1: that was even on the outs in Denver? I don't know,
Speaker 1: just a little bit of a strange situation. There's always
Speaker 1: something strange with the Jets. Just throwing that out there.
Speaker 2: I believe in Darren Muji. Okay, the combound buzz is
Speaker 2: not convincing me.
Speaker 1: Okay. My main point though, is this is a team
Speaker 1: that has a lot to address wide receiver. After Garrett
Speaker 1: Wilson both tackle spots, your quarterback spot, you still need
Speaker 1: a little more at edge. We're kind of back to
Speaker 1: the old Jets phrase. You know, they haven't had a
Speaker 1: pass Ressueran a while. Well, they have had some recently,
Speaker 1: but they don't have one right now on the edge.
Speaker 1: And yeah, most of their secondary, including their entire safety group.
Speaker 1: So a lot of needs for the Jets. Let's go
Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins. I'm on the clock, Patrick, kick
Speaker 1: us off.
Speaker 2: The Dolphins do not have the burden that the Bills do.
Speaker 2: They are not in the Red.
Speaker 3: They are four hundred and twenty two thousand dollars away
Speaker 3: from being in the red, dead last in the NFL
Speaker 3: among teams that have some simbilance of cap space right now.
Speaker 3: The team plagued by injuries. Bradley Chubb injured in his
Speaker 3: time there. There was a reduced capability by both Tyreek
Speaker 3: Hill and Jalen Waddell to his bouts with brain injuries
Speaker 3: of course a pre eminent issue in the minds of
Speaker 3: Dolphins fans. At what point are the McDaniel era Dolphins
Speaker 3: a question of whether or not they're viable?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right now? Now is the point. Now they're in
Speaker 1: the off season, and they managed to be good enough
Speaker 1: last year that yeah, they were competitive, But going through
Speaker 1: this exercise and thinking about all that they need, I
Speaker 1: started to think, Man, this is under the radar team
Speaker 1: to be picking in the top five next year if
Speaker 1: they don't have a really good offseason now. Chris career,
Speaker 1: he's had some bad off seasons, he's had some great offseasons.
Speaker 1: Like it's been up and down. The drafts mostly have
Speaker 1: not been amazing. He needs to have his best off
Speaker 1: season now because I think their offensive line, their entire
Speaker 1: safety group, like they're a team that where if you
Speaker 1: look at their backup position, for instance, on our lads,
Speaker 1: like it's all in the red. They just need a
Speaker 1: lot all at once, and don't They don't look especially
Speaker 1: viable right now to me, which is why this is
Speaker 1: an important off season and exercise. Doesn't mean you can't
Speaker 1: you fill in a lot of holes, but they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to find some money to do so.
Speaker 3: And it's weird because normally you look at a team
Speaker 3: in a cap situation like this and it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: like for the with the Bills, you look at von
Speaker 3: Miller and it's just kind of jumping out at you.
Speaker 3: But like the Tyreek Dill not like you right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you really want to restructure Tyrek o? The
Speaker 1: trade talk has kind of quieted down, but you never
Speaker 1: know Jalen.
Speaker 3: Ramsey has played well and been a good part of
Speaker 3: this defense, and they got huge contributions because like this
Speaker 3: time last year, like Chop Robinson was the workout warrior
Speaker 3: and you're just hoping to get a little bit of production.
Speaker 2: In terms of that, that.
Speaker 1: Was a huge success, great pick. He looks like a
Speaker 1: future star.
Speaker 3: But even considering those those bonuses, the team is still
Speaker 3: still where it is, and you've got so many spots,
Speaker 3: whether it's at cornerback, whether especially on the offensive line
Speaker 3: where you know Toront Armstead is you know, delaying this
Speaker 3: kind of retirement stay go decision.
Speaker 1: There is an update on that. He did restructure his
Speaker 1: contract and so that hasn't shown up on over the
Speaker 1: cap and yet that should free up twelve thirteen fourteen
Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space a little and clear how
Speaker 1: much it'll be he according to Ian Rappaport, he is
Speaker 1: now going down to the minimum salary to, in Ian's words,
Speaker 1: delay his decision, keep the door open if he wants
Speaker 1: to return. But often that's actually an accounting maneuver that
Speaker 1: teams that don't mind spending a little extra cash. This
Speaker 1: is what an owner that likes to spend can do
Speaker 1: for you ultimately an accounting maneuver to open up cap
Speaker 1: space when Toront Armstead has probably gone to retire and
Speaker 1: Steven Ross, who has had his mistakes as Dolphins owner,
Speaker 1: for sure, is not afraid to spend. It's the reason
Speaker 1: why the Dolphins finished tied for first in the NFLPA
Speaker 1: players certainly because their facilities are so nice and all
Speaker 1: the players are treated well and so credit to him,
Speaker 1: and so he's gonna They're gonna find a way to
Speaker 1: spend the money. And yet it's just hard to find
Speaker 1: enough good players to put onto this team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the issue at the spots where they need them.
Speaker 3: I think they got good contributions from Patrick Paul. I
Speaker 3: don't know how much you can rely on town on
Speaker 3: like how much.
Speaker 1: He is probably their left tackle. So Patrick Quall was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: their second round pick from a year ago.
Speaker 3: And so you get good contributions from from a rookie there.
Speaker 3: But there's there's more work to be done than there
Speaker 3: is than there's work that that can be done on
Speaker 3: this roster.
Speaker 2: And you're gonna have to have everybody come back. You're
Speaker 2: gonna have to.
Speaker 3: Have relationships mended with Tyreek, You're gonna have to have
Speaker 3: guys get healthy like Bradley Chubb and you know, Jalen
Speaker 3: Waddle and keep two on the field all season, and
Speaker 3: then you may just be in this situation again next.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Offense, I don't think they're far away. I should. I
Speaker 1: should be careful when I say offensive line. You need
Speaker 1: Patrick Paul to play well, but you drafted him in
Speaker 1: the second round to be your left tackle. That's probably
Speaker 1: what he's gonna be. You need to fix the entire
Speaker 1: guard position, and they've been trying to do that for
Speaker 1: years and haven't been able to do it. So they
Speaker 1: need multiple guards. But they got a free agent pick
Speaker 1: up last year. They liken Aaron Brewer. They've signed Austin Jackson,
Speaker 1: who's been up and down, but you know he's signed
Speaker 1: long term. And your skill position guys for the most part,
Speaker 1: are all back. They cut Raheem Moster, but you need
Speaker 1: a healthy to it. But you have Wattle and Tyreek.
Speaker 1: You don't have any depth there in general, but that's
Speaker 1: been the case. It's defense where we receiveing more key players.
Speaker 1: Javon Holland's one of my top safeties that's available. Jordan
Speaker 1: Poyer didn't quite work out with him, So you need
Speaker 1: a couple of safeties. You could use a cornerback. Kalais
Speaker 1: Campbell as a free agent was very valuable that you
Speaker 1: need some defensive lineman right now. In terms of upfront
Speaker 1: guys on the defensive line, Zack Steeler is literally the
Speaker 1: only guy in the entire roster, which is a little problematic.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm not counting Chop Robinson, who's more
Speaker 1: of an edge. But when they are in like a
Speaker 1: base three four, it's like Zach Seeler and a couple
Speaker 1: guys that are that are free agents, so they just
Speaker 1: have a lot of work to do. And it's a
Speaker 1: tricky situation where Chris ge Greer is definitely trying to
Speaker 1: keep his job and Mike McDaniel needs a big year
Speaker 1: back last decade, every once in a while, the Dolphins
Speaker 1: would pop up as that team that just went crazy
Speaker 1: in the offseason. Maybe they're that team this offseason. Do
Speaker 1: you think so they'll just find a way to do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know how or what, but they seem desperate,
Speaker 1: don't you. I think this roster is in desperate need
Speaker 1: of so good players.
Speaker 3: I think in terms of our positionally that they they've
Speaker 3: gone in the Jhona Smith is a great pickup. I
Speaker 3: think I've a spectacular I think they need another tight end.
Speaker 3: They need a blocking tight end, or just invest in
Speaker 3: the interior of the offensive line. But with what with
Speaker 3: what money? You know, maybe you draft.
Speaker 1: Three guys restructure some of these deals. Bradley Chubb I
Speaker 1: think will be cut. That is my prediction. I'm not
Speaker 1: not rooting for it, but I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb got cut to open up some space. If
Speaker 1: only you could trade cap space, because yeah, let's wrap
Speaker 1: up with the Patriots. You can, can you could they
Speaker 1: just like.
Speaker 2: You, trade it to the player and compensate.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go. Could they trade like fifteen million
Speaker 1: dollars of their cap space to a team that needs
Speaker 1: it for a fourth round pick or something? That would
Speaker 1: be cool because the Patriots have too much cap space.
Speaker 1: They have one hundred and twenty seven million dollars in
Speaker 1: cap space. That's ridiculous. They have the number four pick
Speaker 1: in the draft because they beat the Bills backups in
Speaker 1: Week eighteen. It was their backups mostly too, but still annoying. Man,
Speaker 1: they could just be at one and just draft Travis
Speaker 1: Hunter or trade. If someone wanted to trade for camp Warden,
Speaker 1: maybe they could get Travis Hunter. That's who I want.
Speaker 1: They have an extra third round pick from the Matthew
Speaker 1: Judan trade. So everyone in New England who's picking on
Speaker 1: Elliot Wolf, they hate Elliott Wolf for whatever reason. I
Speaker 1: guess he had a bad year. That's something good he
Speaker 1: did for you. What do the Patriots prioritize first? Because
Speaker 1: it's almost overwhelming everything they need, But what like, what
Speaker 1: is the over arching vision of this new Rabel Elliot Wolf?
Speaker 1: But we don't really necessarily think that Elliot Wolf is
Speaker 1: the one with the juice. I think it's Rabel who's
Speaker 1: kind of running this organization.
Speaker 3: I think it's the interior of the offensive defensive lines. Okay,
Speaker 3: they go straight to NFL dot com slash Rosenthal, they
Speaker 3: get on the top one on one and they and
Speaker 3: they call guys like Cam Robinson right that they make
Speaker 3: these these calls out to tackles and guards who aren't
Speaker 3: necessarily like the top of the market guys, but who
Speaker 3: have played on contending teams in the past and played
Speaker 3: so at a decent level to where you can just
Speaker 3: get and again not value shopping but getting players who
Speaker 3: are good on this football team.
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley buzz Yeah.
Speaker 2: Ronnie Stanley would be one hundred and twenty seven million dollars.
Speaker 3: I think, like I think back to last week right
Speaker 3: where you asked Ryan Poles kind of team have too
Speaker 3: much cap space? And then he scared both of us
Speaker 3: because he's like, well no, and it's like, wait, no, no,
Speaker 3: you want to spend the money. You and I understand
Speaker 3: you can roll it over to next year. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: there's only so many years that are available to do
Speaker 3: something like this, and so you have all that money,
Speaker 3: why not as much as I would love Ronnie Stanley
Speaker 3: to be playing for the Baltimore Ravens next year, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you make him an offer, and you you know, you
Speaker 3: change your team because, like Drake May is all that matters.
Speaker 3: Like I've learned this in weeks of discussing this with you.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you make Drake May as protected as possible.
Speaker 1: Now you want a positive Yeah, not a lot of
Speaker 1: impact free agents on this team.
Speaker 2: That's the good news to the bad news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacobe Brissette, they need a backup quarterback, although they
Speaker 1: probably find and rolling with Joe Milton. You kind of
Speaker 1: like to have a veteran in there, maybe I would.
Speaker 1: The New England media actually tried to pedal this whole
Speaker 1: Joe Milton is available. That didn't really catch, Like would
Speaker 1: someone give up like a third for Joe Milton and
Speaker 1: they would do that because Joe Milton looked pretty sweet.
Speaker 2: I feel like some Centtans would give up with a
Speaker 2: three or four.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think they would do that for maybe not.
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots would do that. They would just
Speaker 1: feel like they're selling high. I don't know why. I
Speaker 1: have a good young quarterback Jonathan Jones who's been there
Speaker 1: forever I feel like will probably wind up leaving Dititch wise,
Speaker 1: not a lot of big names in terms of guys
Speaker 1: that could be leaving. Devon Gottscha was also reported as
Speaker 1: available for a trade, so it looks like he will
Speaker 1: probably be released if they do not find a trade
Speaker 1: for him or Joe Milton. And yeah, people have this
Speaker 1: idea that I think, you know, Mike Rabel, you got
Speaker 1: to take a tackle early or it's all about like
Speaker 1: protecting Drake May and improving everything around. I hope that's
Speaker 1: the case, because when I think Mike Rabel, I think
Speaker 1: he's just gonna want big, nasty like defensive players, and
Speaker 1: he's just going to want to make his defense as
Speaker 1: big and as athletic as possible.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the Patriots roster is good enough
Speaker 3: to try to like pick at a position of you know,
Speaker 3: personal desire, like like the way Kyle Shanahan drafts, like
Speaker 3: the late rounds. I think they really can just and
Speaker 3: it's cliche, sit there and take the best player on
Speaker 3: the board, which I think right Travis Hunter would would
Speaker 3: be nice.
Speaker 1: I would love that. Give me some Travis Hunter. Kean
Speaker 1: White should be back. He kind of had problems with
Speaker 1: the old regime. Christian Barmore. They don't know because of
Speaker 1: his blood clout situation. So there really aren't many positions
Speaker 1: where you feel like you're a set maybe guard if
Speaker 1: they believe Cole Strange and Mike when you like there's
Speaker 1: a couple of guards. You've definitely got enough number three receivers,
Speaker 1: You've got like four of them, but you need some
Speaker 1: number two and number one receivers. It's a little anxiety
Speaker 1: inducing as a Patriots fan though, to see all that
Speaker 1: cap space and just think they're going to be the
Speaker 1: team that feels like because they could spend sixty million
Speaker 1: dollars in that cap space and they'd still have sixty
Speaker 1: left over. And there's not like sixty good million out
Speaker 1: there to spend. Really, I don't know, is there you can.
Speaker 3: You can make the offers sixty more than sixty million
Speaker 3: dollars is going to be spent in free agency here
Speaker 3: in the next couple of weeks, right correctly?
Speaker 1: So, I mean, and like you know, but even if
Speaker 1: you signed like a Ronnie Stanley, how much is he
Speaker 1: costing on this year's cap? You could also front load
Speaker 1: things to just since you have all that kind of space,
Speaker 1: use it that way. But either way, like there's not
Speaker 1: enough good players out there to spend all that money.
Speaker 1: I really, I really am curious how this is going
Speaker 1: to go. For Elliot Wolf and Mike Rabel in New England.
Speaker 1: You probably don't know about this, but there's like all
Speaker 1: this controversy of like why does Elliott Wolf say he
Speaker 1: has final say? Why is he speaking at the GM
Speaker 1: Elliot Wolf people are very angry about and they just
Speaker 1: want Mike Rabele to be in charge, and like why
Speaker 1: does Elliot Wolf have the final say? And first of all,
Speaker 1: is like Mike Rabel probably ultimately does like he has
Speaker 1: the second of all, is it that great that a
Speaker 1: guy who's your coach is I don't know, just making
Speaker 1: all the decisions. I am. I'm a little worried about
Speaker 1: the whole setup.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Eliot Wolf exists right to draw their iron
Speaker 3: criticism as a shield for Mike Rabel, who's ultimately and again,
Speaker 3: there's a whole there's a whole coalition of folks in
Speaker 3: Foxboro who are going to make the decisions. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it would make sense for Mike ver Able to have
Speaker 3: significant input.
Speaker 1: Right because when I, of course, and uh like, I
Speaker 1: look at the free agent class and I want them
Speaker 1: to add like they could use one of those off
Speaker 1: ball linebackers I talked to about. I think, spend the
Speaker 1: money where the players are actually good, which is there's
Speaker 1: a decent amount of players in the secondary. Could you
Speaker 1: get a Charvarius Ward or someone like that, or a
Speaker 1: Sante Samuel bring him to New England after all the
Speaker 1: issues with his dad. There's good safeties out there. But
Speaker 1: don't just spend just to spend. Don't add a third
Speaker 1: another third receiver, like we don't. They don't need to
Speaker 1: add Elijah more to this group, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: there's not top tier receivers. They don't need to add
Speaker 1: Darius Layton. Even though Darius Layton will help a team
Speaker 1: out there, it's not the Jets. You don't need to
Speaker 1: add Naje Harris or JK. Dobbins to this group good players,
Speaker 1: but like you have Ramandra and two, don't be adding
Speaker 1: one of Eric smiling because the one team we got
Speaker 1: to seven minutes on was the Patriots. Of course, the
Speaker 1: only one.
Speaker 2: Shut up.
Speaker 1: Let's wrap the show talking about our friend. We heard
Speaker 1: the news in Indianapolis and it was so much the
Speaker 1: process that we wanted to give it. It's full yeah,
Speaker 1: let it breathe full impact today. Over the years, Patrick,
Speaker 1: we have enjoyed listening to the vocal stylings of Ron
Speaker 1: Wolfley on the Arizona Cardinals broadcast.
Speaker 2: That is absolutely huge right.
Speaker 1: There, Like what what what about him?
Speaker 3: Sticks out to you? The fact that he sticks out
Speaker 3: at all. You know, as we get into these later
Speaker 3: stages of capitalism, there is an extent of sameness everywhere,
Speaker 3: similar stylings, speech patterns, and this this non regional dialect
Speaker 3: that US broadcasters have. It's nice, it's standard, and it works,
Speaker 3: and it's worked for upwards of sixty years, kind of
Speaker 3: mimicking a Midwestern like an Ohio type deal.
Speaker 2: But it's cool.
Speaker 1: Is that what you're doing.
Speaker 2: No, it's what we all do. And it's like it's
Speaker 2: not like shit, it's time to talk about.
Speaker 3: The news, Like we got rid of that and then
Speaker 3: we went to what we have now. And to have
Speaker 3: somebody still be unique in doing it and have people
Speaker 3: love it, it's worth celebrating. And that's what I love
Speaker 3: about Ron and I hope he's able to enjoy retirement.
Speaker 1: I wanted to know where he got these phrases from
Speaker 1: because they always seem like they were off the dome.
Speaker 1: But did he just have like seventy different phrases that
Speaker 1: he could just always pull upon in the biggest of
Speaker 1: moments or do was he just coming up with it?
Speaker 1: Maybe we should have him on sometimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a rolodex of terms and idioms that just
Speaker 3: seem to apply.
Speaker 1: And I don't know even what accent he had. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's Pittsburgh, I think that is maybe where he's from.
Speaker 3: But he's from But regardless of the accents, like the
Speaker 3: vocal stylingce or so inherently and I'm glad that we
Speaker 3: get another one.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know that that we can enjoy. But but
Speaker 2: Ron's there.
Speaker 3: There was something unique and special about Ron, even different
Speaker 3: from his brother right that we were able to experience
Speaker 3: in Arizona.
Speaker 1: I loved it, and I love when you talk about
Speaker 1: the stages of capitalism. It really gets a big reaction
Speaker 1: from Chris back there. I think I think they like
Speaker 1: whenever you bring up the where we're at, the circumstances,
Speaker 1: the capitalism there. It's just funny that that that's that's
Speaker 1: what gets the reach.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's an upgrade from feudalism.
Speaker 1: Hey, maybe my voice might be annoying, but it's not
Speaker 1: just a flattened out Midwestern accent. How about that. It's different.
Speaker 1: We will be back. Like I mentioned on Wednesday, we're
Speaker 1: trying to stay in a regular cadence this week where
Speaker 1: the shows are posting overnight, so you'll have it in
Speaker 1: your feed on Wednesday morning. Yes, we're getting back the
Speaker 1: CEA next Tuesday, crew calling Wolf and Jordan Rodrigg. So
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. Talking a little AFC than some
Speaker 1: other assorted fun We will take you out by listening,
Speaker 1: and I'm doing it for the first time to a
Speaker 1: collection of the greatest uh one minute and forty five
Speaker 1: seconds of sound. You're ever gonna hear from our friend
Speaker 1: Ron Woefully, we'll see you Wednesday.
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Speaker 8: The wind knocked the pig out of the air. DJ
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Speaker 8: what a great play by DJ Dallas. Forget about the
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Speaker 2: What is it again?
Speaker 1: Pick up my docket?
Speaker 6: Fucking running near side of the fifteenth, fucking inside to ten.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 8: The coiners half shot the world trait but true.
Speaker 1: The coins of the going to Super Bowl forty.
Speaker 8: Hey, how about that, David, the Arizona Cardinals, Saby go
Speaker 8: to the show.