1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we can only hope we 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: look as good as Jimmy Johnson at eighty one years old. Hell, 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: I hope I'm alive at eighty one years old. 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: I'm in the Chris Westling podcast studio and I'm joined 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: by my friend Patrick Claybonn. Good to be back in 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: person with you, buddy, We're back. 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 3: The travels went well, you guys were killing it at 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: the Combine. This was it was an illustrious week of 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 3: content and I just know our fearless leader had us 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: repped well. 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: It was great. 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: It was really fun out there. And yes, I taped 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: a show back in Los Angeles with Nick Shook, who 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: you know, was just straight off of Saint Elmo's on 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: Sunday nights. I still feel like the Chemtrails of the 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: Combine is not quite over yet. In fact, we're going 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: to have on Colleen Woolf on our next show and 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: she might have some just tails from the combine. 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Just like lathered and cocktail. 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: Well just she things happen with her and Jordan Rodrigue 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: also like, so we'll see, like it's not over yet. 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: And yet I bring that up to say, like, okay, 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: that's just ending and we're six days away from free 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: agency starting like it's here. It it never really does. 26 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: This is kind of a calm before the storm week, 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: and yet there's gonna be a lot of cuts. We 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: have a few of those to talk about today. There's 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna be some trades. So before the off season starts, 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna go through the AFC East. We went through 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: the NFC a couple weeks back. We're gonna go through 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: the AFC this week and preview their off season. Throughout 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: the week, we're gonna be talking about free agents. Guys 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: we want to sign, just moves, we want to see 35 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and updating you every day on the news. 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: It is in the name. This is a week where 37 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm happy and believe that the daily format will bear 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: fruit for the listeners. 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: It always has scratched. Sure, don't tell yourself short. 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: I know, but like May, it's gonna be just like 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: a little bit different. We're gonna have fun. But there's 42 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of news this week. Let's start 43 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: with it. Darius Slay is no longer a Philadelphia Eagle, 44 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: in a move that didn't seem to surprise Darius Slay 45 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: but still for some reason surprises me. They cut the man. Yeah, 46 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: thirty four year old coming off a pretty good season. 47 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: I went and checked around. I was like, Darius Slay 48 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: was pretty good last year, right, And I went and 49 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: checked people around the team and everything. 50 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, he was good last year, And 51 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: I have to imagine because there's a path back, but 52 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 4: just at this juncture to try to figure it out 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: before the draft, before free agency, before everything is set, 54 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: to give Darius a chance because he said he only 55 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 4: wants to play one more year. 56 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: Yes, so it would seem it would seem like once 57 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: we've navigated that, there'll be an opportunity for him to 58 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: come back for his final hurrah for the Philadelphia Eagles. 59 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: I'll say that as. 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: We yeah, as we're talking about him, Like, am I 61 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: jumping the gun on even putting this out there? I mean, 62 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: it's one of the top stories on NFL dot Com, 63 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: So I don't think so. But then I look at 64 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: his base salary. They're not even really saving any money. 65 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean they are if they make him a post 66 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: June first cut, you say, like four million dollars, but 67 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: you gotta wait till June. They're a team that kind 68 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: of needs cap space. Now it doesn't totally make sense 69 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: to me, and then I suddenly am like having flashbacks 70 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: to other Eagles negotiations where they have said they're going 71 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: to cut a guy, but then like Brandon Graham, and 72 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: then it ends up working out in the end. So 73 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: stay tuned. But either way, I think Darius Slay has 74 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: some good football left in him. I do think they 75 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: are fans of the young man Keeley Ringo, who did 76 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: not get a lot to run this year, but apparently 77 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: had a good training camp. Isaiah Rodgers played quite well 78 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: for them. He is a Yeah, he's a free agent, 79 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: so he's not necessarily back, but maybe he's someone they 80 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: look at. We could bring him back for a couple 81 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: of years, and they like Ringo. So just the cornerback 82 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: position in flux a lot in flux. In Philadelphia, the 83 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Bengals officially tagged t Higgins. We expected that to happen. 84 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: T Higgins doesn't seem like thrilled about all. 85 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: No, like, yeah, it's a league wide cost control metric 86 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: that nobody really enjoys. I guess there's in some circumstances 87 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: it can work out for the player, but this is 88 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: you would like long term security. And yeah, I saw 89 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: an article that said, like T Higgins post cryptic message 90 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: on social media and the message was I'll let when 91 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: I know, I'll let y'all know. I'm like, what's the 92 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: cryptic part. It's like, Oh, he's gonna be in a 93 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: bad mood. Well, yeah, like he would like to have 94 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: this thing done. And how many times does he really 95 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: need to say that? It just it feels like sometimes 96 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: these things take unnecessarily long. 97 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: That's absolutely true. And you got to be careful with 98 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: what articles you find out there. This is the first 99 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: full NFL offseason with like mass AI articles in the 100 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: wilderness because these last couple of weeks when I'm doing 101 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: my research, you know on Google is part of that tool, 102 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: and you got you gotta be careful out there. I 103 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. It's sports, keita or what. 104 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. It seems like it's AI. 105 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot there's a lot of AI articles out 106 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: there that you click on. It's got a decent headline. 107 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they get you and then you're like, oh wait, 108 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: this is just slop regurgitated. 109 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: It's bad, and then so that slop gets ingested into 110 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: the AI right right, and it gets regurgitated as Google's 111 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 3: very first thing, which is how we wound up with 112 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 3: that rule that didn't exist last year about on side 113 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: kicks and timing, and everybody's like, oh, the rule book 114 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: says you can't do this. 115 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: It never said that, It never said that anywhere. 116 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: And like, how can I explain this and teach this 117 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: to my children? How are they supposed to be so 118 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: conversant in like figuring out what's It's just very annoying. 119 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: Let's move on from that. Oh, I did want to 120 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: bring up to you though you your name came up 121 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: at the dinner table. Oh, over the weekend's never good. 122 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: The combine was on and like no one was working out, 123 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: and my wife thought like, oh, that they should force 124 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: them to do the combine, Like this is this is 125 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: this is trash, like not knowing you know, great is 126 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: working out at the comment anymore. It's just ruining the event. 127 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: They should force them. And I was like, well, you know, 128 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: my friend I'm hearing my friend Patrick would tell you 129 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: that this the entire kind of draft system. You know, 130 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: what other industry is there where they're you know, they 131 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: could make a lot more money. But that's capped and 132 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: they can't choose where they go, and so this is 133 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: just one small bit of not fighting back. But like, hey, 134 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: you're going to draft me anyways if it's good enough, 135 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: So why do I have to do this? 136 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: And to those folks like I share your concerns, pay them, 137 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: pay them to do the combine. You get more people 138 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: working out, you get a better show if you would 139 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: like more people working out. 140 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: It's it's unfortunately for the NFL network and for everyone 141 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: who covers it. But if the NFL Scouting Combine becomes 142 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: mostly an event for like picks twenty five through the 143 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: seventh round, those people that they're they're going to be working, 144 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: They're going to continue to work out. It's not the 145 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,119 Speaker 1: end of the world. It's still very useful. It's useful 146 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: for other reasons. Obviously that the medical and the interviews. 147 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: I think that's what teams get out of it anyways. 148 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: But if the on field stuff ends up just being 149 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: kind of rounds two through seven, well that's still most 150 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: of the NFL draft, and that might be what it 151 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: turns out to be, because those guys are gonna want 152 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: to prove themselves. They're Unfortunately they don't have the luxury 153 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: to skip it. 154 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: I think one thing that might help because we've seen 155 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: multiple incidents where the medicals are an ordeal, like that's 156 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: a lot of time. I think it's invested in a 157 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: truncated week where you're having a lot of conversations. Maybe 158 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: if the medicals were off site and we prioritize the 159 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: workouts and the interviews, maybe that's a path forward. But 160 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: it's a great event and we get to meet guys 161 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: and understand a little bit more about them and see 162 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: them all in the same place. So I think it's 163 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: great for evaluation. 164 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the interview part is great for the 165 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: teams to just get that much. I mean, how many 166 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: people do I make a decision about within the first 167 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, like most. I think it's funny. Sean McVay 168 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: excited that Matthew Stafford is back. He said he was 169 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: sleeping better and Stafford decided to rejoin the Rams. Let's 170 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: listen to a little Sean mcvacebook with the media on Monday. 171 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 5: You know, we've taken it a year at a time 172 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 5: and he's earned the right, I believe, to be able 173 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 5: to say, hey, I think he could play for a 174 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 5: few more years if that's what he wanted. But we've 175 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 5: always had great dialogue and I think it's really kind 176 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 5: of been a year to year thing. He's obviously under 177 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 5: contract for two more years with us, but as long 178 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 5: as he wants to play, I know we're feeling really 179 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 5: good about that. 180 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: Interesting to me. Still a year to year contract, didn't 181 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: rip it up, didn't start a new contract. Still don't 182 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: have all the details. I really think the Rams got 183 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford to basically return, and maybe they sweetened it 184 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: a little bit, but it was clear based on the reporting, 185 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: the Giants and the Raiders were willing to essentially guarantee 186 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: two years. The Rams aren't doing that. Based on what 187 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: McVeigh just said, it's a year to year thing and 188 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: we could be revisiting this again. And it's great for 189 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: most parties, I think, if you know, maybe not Matthew 190 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: Stafford's like financial advice, he has slightly less money to 191 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: work with, but everyone else it's great for Yeah. 192 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 3: No, and this was a Philadelphia Eagles team that was 193 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: dominant right throughout the playoffs, and the only moment of 194 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: fear was Matthew Stafford in the snow in Philadelphia right 195 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, and this team is so much better 196 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: with Stafford, and the idea that you would have this 197 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: very good base of a team now scrounging for the 198 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: Darnolds of the world after living this lap of luxury. 199 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 3: It seems like ridiculous in hindsight, but I think there 200 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: was an opportunity for Matt to maybe do some skiing 201 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: as right as that was with controversy, and I'm glad 202 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: you were in India for that, but also to see 203 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: what these other teams could say so that he could 204 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: come back and he could know and the Rams could 205 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: know that that this matchup was the best for both 206 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: of them. 207 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought it was also interesting that McVeigh confirmed 208 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: Rob Havenstein and Tyler Higbee are both back. Maybe not 209 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: huge names to the general public, but the two guys 210 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: who have been on that roster the longest, and so 211 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: if they were trying to turn over their roster and 212 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: really look to the future, they would maybe be getting 213 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: rid of these guys instead. He's back, Stafford's back. They're 214 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: both probably going to be starting this year, and they 215 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: are definitely looking to contend while getting younger. I really 216 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: think they're going to draft a quarterback this year with 217 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: a second or third round pick, maybe even a first 218 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: round pick. I think they're going to look to the 219 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: future at quarterback. It's a weird draft to do that, 220 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: but there are some There are some guys and you 221 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: only have to fall in love with one in the 222 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: second or third round. People connecting Jackson Dart to them, 223 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: We'll see. I just think that this is time for 224 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: them to start working on a new guy. 225 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 3: He did say that it was a very long process 226 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: last time. This time it was significantly shorter. Yes, maybe 227 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: it'll be a couple of days. Yeah, next year, you 228 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: just get Matthew Stafford back. Regardless of what they do 229 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: future quarterback plans, I think Stafford is probably still going 230 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: to be pretty good. 231 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: Now. Okay, so some titans of our industry in the 232 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: football world have retired over the last week. We're going 233 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: to get to our friend Ron wolf Lee at the 234 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: very end of the show. The Arizona Cardinal is great. 235 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: But first we're going to talk a little bit about 236 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johns. 237 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 238 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: He's been on the air for Fox for thirty one years. 239 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: He is eighty one years old. When I looked up 240 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: his age like a year ago. For some reason. I 241 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: was stunned that Jimmy Johnson was eighty, not just because 242 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: his hair, but he's sharp, a lot of energy, you 243 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: know when you see Jimmy Johnson. That's not true for 244 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: everyone that stays on TV forever, but it was true 245 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Johnson. Just just happy trails, always a pleasant figure 246 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: in the landscape. 247 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it spans multiple generations that have no connection with 248 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: Jimmy Johnson as a football coach, especially right at Miami 249 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: right and or with the Dallas Cowboys. They know him 250 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 3: as that you mentioned it, energetic, friendly voice on Sunday mornings, 251 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: and congratulations to at the end of a great career 252 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: navigating triph relationships with Jerry Jones and he finally was 253 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: able to to heal that thing up like that. 254 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: That's a very difficult thing to do, and he did 255 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: it in his own term. How about them? Coach? 256 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: He also, you know, worked out alongside Terry Bradshaw and 257 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: Howie Long that entire time. My first job in sports media, 258 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: I think this is true, was for Fox on the 259 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: Weekends writing shot sheets, as they call him, like a 260 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: floor above Jimmy Johnson and Terry Bradshaw. But for James 261 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: Brown and mostly Terry Bradshaw to read while they did 262 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: their highlights around two thousand and one, two thousand and 263 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: two summers or football seasons, I believe. Yeah, the two 264 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: thousand and one season was the first one, and that 265 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: was that was a lot of fun. And it was 266 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: the same guys back then. They were they were beloved. 267 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: Everyone just loved them. 268 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's it's rare to keep keep a squad together 269 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: for that long. So congratulations, And now what are we doing? 270 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 3: What's Fox going to do? Are they putting in that? 271 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they can live without. They have like seventeen 272 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: guys on that right now. It seems like it'd be 273 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: time for Terry bratch Out to step away, but I 274 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be up to him. They're loyal to him. 275 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: He's so he's still there, Howie long still there, gronks 276 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: there unless he is back in the NFL. Like, they 277 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of dudes. A couple just quick items. 278 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: The Packers signed Isaiah mcduffee two years, eight million dollars. 279 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: There's a lot of three down linebackers available. I was 280 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: thinking about that one because there's not really many guys 281 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: in the draft that are highly thought of like that 282 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: might be the number one position to not draft unfortunately, 283 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: because it's so hard, it's so hard to get good 284 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: at it quickly that players really are better by the 285 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: time they get to their end of the contract and 286 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: for some reason, they're all on they're all available. There's 287 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: like seven or eight really good three down linebackers available. 288 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: The Packers decided not to go that route, but they 289 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: like Isaiah mcduffee and they got them for cheap. 290 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 291 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: It feels like a lot of teams are trying to 292 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 3: up on value on linebackers and they want like edge 293 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: rush potential. So you get a lot of guys that 294 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: are like, like, coming in this year, jahe hot Campbell 295 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: is going to get a lot of attention. 296 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: He's probably a first round pick after that. 297 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, not many, Yeah, and so like it's not necessarily 298 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 3: that level of player an athlete, but you get a 299 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: lot of guys, Well, we can get edge rush value 300 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: in this guy, but this guy is just a just 301 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: a linebaker. But like that idea of just a linebacker, 302 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: I feel like it is going to be falling out 303 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: of vogue after a few teams in situations where it's 304 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: like we really need people to be able to execute 305 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: at this position. 306 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: So hopefully the cycle is coming. 307 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: Back, and there's just less of them. To be fair, 308 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: it used to be there was three of them on 309 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: the field. Now there's two. Sometimes there's one. But just 310 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: a recap, you guys can check out the top one 311 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: to one free agents Zach Bond, Nick Bolton, two big 312 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: time players Ernest Jones who turned the Seahawks season around. 313 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: Those are all Super Bowl champions. 314 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: Dray green Law, who's one of the better linebackers the 315 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: last five or six years. Jamie and Sherwood, who was 316 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: the Jets team MVP last year as voted by the 317 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: players on the team, over Sauce Gardner, over Aaron Rodgers, 318 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: over anyone else that would have been in contention for 319 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: that good player. Robert Splane who who had a great 320 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: career revival with the Raiders, Bobby Wagner, Levonte, David Kaizer White, 321 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: who I had someone tell me what's a top eight 322 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: linebacker in the league. I was like, I love Kaizer White. 323 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: That's pretty bold. Tyrol Dodson is a good player. E 324 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: J Speed, like Cody Barton. There's just Willie Gay. There's 325 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: lots of guys out there at that position. So I 326 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: just thought I would highlight that as one comes off 327 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: the board, and then yeah, a couple other cuts out there. 328 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Alex Kappa, for instance, with the Bengals is no longer 329 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: and people immediately saying like, oh, let's sign Alex Kapa. 330 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: If the Bengals are cutting you as an offensive lineman 331 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: like they need offensive lineman, that's not a great sign. 332 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: So he is not going into my one oh one 333 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: because to me, that is a red flag that in 334 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: his PFF score. 335 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 3: But you could make the case though, in support of 336 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: Alex Kappa, the Bengals financial situation maybe devoted elsewhere here 337 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: for a little bit, and maybe to Tea maybe that's yeah. 338 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: But if he was, if he was like an above 339 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: average starter, you're just not going to cut him. His 340 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: number is not too great, not too crazy. All right, 341 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: we're going to take a quick break. We're going to 342 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: preview the AFC East off season, and yes we're going 343 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: to honor mister Wolfe before the show is over. Back 344 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: on NFL Daily and back in the mix with my 345 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: friend Patrick, previewing the off season before it really gets 346 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: going in less than a week. Crazy, So we got 347 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: to get these divisions in and we are going to 348 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: a division that's near and dear to my heart, to Eric, 349 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: our producer's heart, a division the Bills have absolutely dominated 350 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: for the last five years. Pretty good, pretty good. They 351 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: want to take the next step, but you know, enjoy 352 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: the good times while they're here. Eric, We're going to 353 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: put seven minutes on the clock and we're going to 354 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: go through all four of these teams breaking down what 355 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: they need to do this offseason. Let's hit it. Patrick, 356 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: O'll kick us off with a question. 357 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we get a team that is in the 358 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: red one of six teams that are in the red 359 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: salary cap wise as of right now. You get one 360 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 3: shot at a restructure for an under thirty year old 361 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 3: Josh Allen still twenty eight years old. You get one 362 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: shot at a restructure. What do you prioritize here with 363 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 3: this money, with this again just winning an MVP peak 364 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: in the problem of his career. You've got some spots 365 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 3: on the team, corner, defensive line, wide receiver. Where do 366 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 3: you start with? The limited opportunity of restructure provides you 367 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 3: on a team that could have won the Super Bowl 368 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 3: last year. Right, But because it's football, randomness happens that 369 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: you know that you don't need to do a lot, 370 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 3: so what do you do with it? 371 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: I think you prioritize defensive difference makers, primarily in the front, 372 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: and that that kind of brings up, you know, another 373 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: way they can make some room, which is cutting von Miller. 374 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: I think that's going to happen. I don't know. If 375 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: they restructure Josh Allen's contract this year, they actually might 376 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: wait another year until, like the money goes up. There 377 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: are a couple guys who have some long term deals 378 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: that they can, you know, squeeze some money, you know, 379 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: some coins from the couch or whatever. At Oliver is one, 380 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: I believe Dion Dawkins is another one. They actually make 381 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: pretty similar base salaries to where Josh Allen is right now. 382 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: So yes, the bills are ten million over the cap 383 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: as we talk. But between those restructures in von Miller, 384 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: they'll they'll be able to do it. And yet they 385 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: are a team where I think it affects them because 386 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: I feel like they have a lot of work to do. 387 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: We'll get to it. Overall, to me, it's it's a 388 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: little more juice in the front, because maybe it's unfair 389 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: to count on Josh to just make everyone better around him. 390 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: But I think that's working pretty well. The offensive line 391 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: is in good shape too. Yeah, the offensive. 392 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: Line is it's a rarity right when you look around 393 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: the league to see the teams that are in contention, 394 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: have these you know, solid guys up front that aren't 395 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: necessarily agent like you got. 396 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: They're going to be in year three of this exact 397 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: same offensive line. So it's crazy. 398 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: So it ain't broke, But my question is right because 399 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 3: they are so close, it just feels like you can't 400 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: afford not to try right right, and so like along 401 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: with making the changes, whatever changes you want to make 402 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: to Vaughan's deal, that's one thing, But Josh is the franchise. 403 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: This one, Like, a restructure is not a bad thing. 404 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: It just depends on when you want to. 405 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: Do it right. It's just when you feel like you 406 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: can create the most room. So they could restructure more 407 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: than one. Certainly they need to create open space part 408 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: of the reason. And now transition to some of the 409 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: stuff they can do thinking ahead, They've already resigned Khalils 410 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: Shakir and I was like, wow, that was early, and 411 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: then I looked how many of their players are up 412 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: for free agency next year. It's crazy Christian Benford who 413 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: has evolved into a number one cornerback, a really good player, 414 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: Greg Russou. 415 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: Got to keep them. 416 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean they keep everyone, James Cook, Trull Bernard, maybe 417 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: they don't do an early deal with him. That's a 418 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: lot of their best players are up next season. So 419 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: they are in a really tricky spot. All I'm saying 420 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: is you got to add to this roster. Those guys 421 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 1: are already there, and you're thinking about next year, and 422 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: you're thinking about filling the holes in free agency from 423 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 1: the guys that are leaving this year. 424 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just that there's not much to add, Like 425 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 3: I don't think that there's this like oh, because I 426 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: understand the feeling that they got to take a next step. 427 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: Like they're there, They're a good. 428 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: Tention, right, So so how do you facilitate this roster 429 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: in the best way to be to do what they 430 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: need because they're not far. I think some talent in 431 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 3: the secondary, some talent, some extra talent in depth at 432 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: Russia or the in the interior next to Ed Oliver 433 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 3: takes them where they need to be. 434 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 2: I just don't feel like they can afford to wait. 435 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: Right, And so Matt Collins, who contributed quite a bit 436 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: to them last year, and a Mari Cooper are both 437 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: free agents. I don't think they're necessarily keeping Amari Cooper, 438 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: but they have Khalil Shakir, Curtis Samuel, and Kean Coleman 439 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: under contract next year. You probably want to add at 440 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: least one receiver. They have two guys in my top actually, 441 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: Tamar Hamlin just missed my top one oh one. In 442 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: my top one oh five. Razuel Douglas, who I think 443 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: might be Leaving's kind of just been up and down there, 444 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: so you need another cornerback. And Damar Hamlin. We'll see 445 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: if they bring him back or not. They have drafted 446 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: at that position with Cole Bishop and have some guys 447 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: who have played for them, so it would be a 448 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: shame to see him play elsewhere. But yeah, sometimes I 449 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: think there's this feelings like we got to make a 450 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: big push, but it's like you are there. They've done 451 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: a good job balancing that throughout the last handful of years, 452 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: will staying right at the top, and yet like there's 453 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: it's not an easy offseason for this team without a 454 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: lot of cap space, and you would like a little 455 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: more juice from that wide receiver room other than Kean 456 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: Coleman just getting better. 457 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: Right, And I think it helps to to go ahead 458 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 3: and lock up Shakira, get that figured out. You can 459 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 3: maybe save some money and relying on Mike White and 460 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 3: not necessarily have Mitchell Trubisky. I mean that's a smaller 461 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: und three million dollars, but ultimately, like you look, you 462 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: can get good contributing players in that three to five 463 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 3: million dollar range. And so like if the whole plane's 464 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 3: built out of Josh anyway, I think it would be 465 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: tough to rely and project kyer Elm because I know 466 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: he can grow, right to project that growth for him, 467 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: you could not like a not saying like somebody like 468 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: a Sante Samuel Jr. Is like a bargain basement guy. 469 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 3: But you can draft the corner and bring in not 470 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: top tier free agents but on down the list because 471 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 3: I know, like like somebody like Byron Murphy right would 472 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 3: be be a dream. But I don't I don't think 473 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: they're in that. I don't think Murphy DJ Reid range right. 474 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be spending huge maybe one 475 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: like I think they would spend more on the edge 476 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: if they were gonna spend some money and then maybe 477 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: at receiver. We'll see. By the way, they have an 478 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: extra second round pick from the Vikings did a good 479 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: bit as business part of that Dallas Turner trade where 480 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: the Vikings, like you know, basically gave up like a 481 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett package to draft Dallas Turner. We'll see how 482 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: that works out. But they do have an extra second 483 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: round pick, so that that is nice for the Bills. 484 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: They do not have their third round pick. They are 485 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: missing that. They gave it last year to the Eagles. 486 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: One of those that always a year later, you're like, oh, 487 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: I gave a twenty four to fourth for a twenty 488 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: you know, once you get to the next year, it's 489 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: very annoying. But they they did one of those where 490 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: they got an extra pick last year. All right, let's 491 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: go to the New York Jets. Twenty three million dollars 492 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: in cap space. There we go, so about average in 493 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: terms of how it goes this year. They have no 494 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: third round pick because of the DeVante Adams trade. That's 495 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: not aging particularly well. But I didn't have a problem 496 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: with it at the time, so I'm not going to 497 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: say I had a problem with it now, but they 498 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: do have Detroit's third round pick that they got in 499 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: one of those similar swaps. I was just talking about 500 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: last year where the Detroit wanted to move up and 501 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: they got an extra third, So they basically have a 502 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: normal array of picks. Look, my question for this team 503 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: is where do they go at quarterback? Weirdly, the Jets 504 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 1: have not been talked about much in terms of the 505 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: quarterback position, like they were not in on Stafford like 506 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: the Giants were. When you're hearing about Darnold for obvious reasons, 507 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: They're not really talked about there. So I mean, I 508 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: am curious what their approach is going to be at. 509 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: Court Tock Dimes returns to. 510 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: Now you got to get him out of the city 511 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: for his own sake. Yeah, I know you're always saying, well, 512 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: New York's just another place to play, but I just 513 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: feel like he needs a new start. Maybe like can 514 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: he go back to Duke, you know, something like that. 515 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: You know, the Panthers just hang out with he Brices 516 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: back up or something, or the Colts, you know like that. 517 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: That makes sense to me. Just something quiet, something where 518 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: you can just go play foosball at night. 519 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, there's it feels there is talent right 520 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: on the same I mean twenty percent of the cap 521 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: over twenty percent of the cap as of right now 522 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 3: is devoted to DeVante and Aaron Rodgers. Yeah right, and 523 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 3: so like there's there's some level of hope, like but 524 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: they're like nobody's gonna put them on fraud Watch next 525 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: year because like it's it's argument. 526 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: The rosters looks terrible to me. So I mentioned there's 527 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: twenty three million in cap space. We talked about the 528 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams potential cut and or trade on our last show. 529 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: They can save thirty million dollars just by cutting DeVante Adams. 530 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: That's old school, that's kind of fun. Like that means 531 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: there weren't all these crazy restructures. You know, if they 532 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: trade them, they save plenty as well, and you get 533 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: something back. It'd be over twenty But like they say, 534 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: they save thirty just by cutting them. So right there, 535 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: now you have fifty three million in cap space. Rogers, 536 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: you could actually make the decision to eat all of 537 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: his dead money this year because you opened up so 538 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: much with DeVante, or you could spread it out if 539 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: you chose to. So they have options. They will have 540 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: more than enough money to spend, and to me, it's 541 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: easier to say what they have versus what they need 542 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: because much like the next two teams we're going to 543 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: talk about the Dolphins in the especially the Patriots, they 544 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: have needs almost everywhere. Here's what the Jets do. Have 545 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: a really great young running back room, don't need to 546 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: add to that. Like them, a sneaky gray interior offensive line. 547 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: John Simpson was free agent pickup who played fine for them, 548 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: Joe Tipman, who they like was a young center, and 549 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: Elijah Arrah Tucker. So that you've got your interior line, 550 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: that's about it. You also have premier talent, but that doesn't, 551 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, fix your whole position. So you have three 552 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: guys who I would say are absolutely premier players, Quinn Williams, 553 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner, and Garrett Wilson, two of whom are up 554 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: for new contract extensions potentially this offseason. And other than that, 555 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: like you really don't have a lot. You have to 556 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: replace almost your entire secondary. You have a ton of backups. 557 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: Both your tackles are free agents, your tight ends free 558 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: agent Hassan Raddick who they brought in as a free agent, 559 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: Jamien Sherwood's a free agent, like DJ Reid is one 560 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: of my top free agents at cornerback. Like you have 561 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: a lot of big time needs, and you have more 562 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: guys from the old regime you might cut. So this 563 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: is a team that I think is a little closer 564 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: to starting over than maybe people realize. 565 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 3: So when you say starting over, would would that mean 566 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: that like a Garrett Wilson or a Sauce Gardner would 567 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: be like trade candidate. 568 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: No, because I think that what's the point of trying 569 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: to find good play you want to build around them. 570 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: But what I mean is there are other guys I 571 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: didn't mention that you could say are likely gone. Alan Lazard. 572 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be around Tyron Smith. 573 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be around DJ Reid. 574 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: Are they going to pay to keep Maybe? Actually, like 575 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: they have the money to do if they liked it. 576 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, like all these positions, all these got. Morgan 577 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: Moses was their starting rate tackle. He's a free agent. 578 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: You only have like five, six, seven starters when I 579 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: look up and down the list, that's kind of crazy. 580 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: It's actually one of the lower numbers in the entire league. 581 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: So the Jets, they're really going to test their new 582 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: general manager, Darren Muji. 583 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: You do get Jermaine Johnson hopefully back after the injury, 584 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: so you get some talent back there. 585 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: Like there's Olufashionu looks like a left tackle starter for 586 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 1: the future. 587 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: There's places to make this team viable. But whether it's 588 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: you know, trying to make a case for Kirk, you know, 589 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: over over Cleveland, maybe that that that what's your whistle 590 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: a little bit more than dimes. 591 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: Perhaps, Yeah, they if people forgot the Jets, you know. 592 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: Of course, with Aaron Glenn as the new head coach, 593 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: hired a man named Tanner Engstron as his offensive coordinator, 594 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: a young, up and coming, innovative mind. By all accounts 595 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: that was a passing game coordinator for the Lions, and 596 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: so Aaron Glenn knew him there. And if Aaron Glenn 597 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: is like his old boss Dan Campbell, he's he's good 598 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: at finding the right people to hire. But man, they 599 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: are really kind of starting over from scratch, and it's 600 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: there's just a little bit there's a little bit of 601 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: bad buzz about Darren Moujie. I'm gonna say it, like 602 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: not much of a presence at the Comonium combine buzz. Yeah, 603 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. Oh no, just like was maybe a 604 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: surprising hire that some people might interpret that a guy 605 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: that's hired so that other people can kind of be 606 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: more powerful. I don't know who that would be exactly. 607 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean Aaron Glenn would be number one. That's maybe 608 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: more of the Aaron Glenn Show. They also hired Rick 609 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: Spielman from the thirty third team as a special advisor. 610 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: He's a long time and quite successful general manager. By 611 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: the way, with the Vikings and Mujie, there was a 612 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: little bit of buzz of like was he a guy 613 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: that was even on the outs in Denver? I don't know, 614 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: just a little bit of a strange situation. There's always 615 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: something strange with the Jets. Just throwing that out there. 616 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: I believe in Darren Muji. Okay, the combound buzz is 617 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: not convincing me. 618 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: Okay. My main point though, is this is a team 619 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: that has a lot to address wide receiver. After Garrett 620 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: Wilson both tackle spots, your quarterback spot, you still need 621 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: a little more at edge. We're kind of back to 622 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: the old Jets phrase. You know, they haven't had a 623 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: pass Ressueran a while. Well, they have had some recently, 624 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: but they don't have one right now on the edge. 625 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, most of their secondary, including their entire safety group. 626 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: So a lot of needs for the Jets. Let's go 627 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins. I'm on the clock, Patrick, kick 628 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: us off. 629 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: The Dolphins do not have the burden that the Bills do. 630 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: They are not in the Red. 631 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 3: They are four hundred and twenty two thousand dollars away 632 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 3: from being in the red, dead last in the NFL 633 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: among teams that have some simbilance of cap space right now. 634 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 3: The team plagued by injuries. Bradley Chubb injured in his 635 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 3: time there. There was a reduced capability by both Tyreek 636 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 3: Hill and Jalen Waddell to his bouts with brain injuries 637 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: of course a pre eminent issue in the minds of 638 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: Dolphins fans. At what point are the McDaniel era Dolphins 639 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 3: a question of whether or not they're viable? 640 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Right now? Now is the point. Now they're in 641 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: the off season, and they managed to be good enough 642 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: last year that yeah, they were competitive, But going through 643 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: this exercise and thinking about all that they need, I 644 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: started to think, Man, this is under the radar team 645 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: to be picking in the top five next year if 646 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: they don't have a really good offseason now. Chris career, 647 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: he's had some bad off seasons, he's had some great offseasons. 648 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: Like it's been up and down. The drafts mostly have 649 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: not been amazing. He needs to have his best off 650 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: season now because I think their offensive line, their entire 651 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: safety group, like they're a team that where if you 652 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: look at their backup position, for instance, on our lads, 653 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: like it's all in the red. They just need a 654 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: lot all at once, and don't They don't look especially 655 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: viable right now to me, which is why this is 656 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: an important off season and exercise. Doesn't mean you can't 657 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: you fill in a lot of holes, but they're gonna 658 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 1: have to find some money to do so. 659 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: And it's weird because normally you look at a team 660 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: in a cap situation like this and it's like, oh, well, 661 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 3: like for the with the Bills, you look at von 662 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 3: Miller and it's just kind of jumping out at you. 663 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: But like the Tyreek Dill not like you right. 664 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, would you really want to restructure Tyrek o? The 665 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: trade talk has kind of quieted down, but you never 666 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: know Jalen. 667 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 3: Ramsey has played well and been a good part of 668 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,239 Speaker 3: this defense, and they got huge contributions because like this 669 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: time last year, like Chop Robinson was the workout warrior 670 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 3: and you're just hoping to get a little bit of production. 671 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: In terms of that, that. 672 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: Was a huge success, great pick. He looks like a 673 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: future star. 674 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: But even considering those those bonuses, the team is still 675 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 3: still where it is, and you've got so many spots, 676 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: whether it's at cornerback, whether especially on the offensive line 677 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: where you know Toront Armstead is you know, delaying this 678 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: kind of retirement stay go decision. 679 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: There is an update on that. He did restructure his 680 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: contract and so that hasn't shown up on over the 681 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: cap and yet that should free up twelve thirteen fourteen 682 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space a little and clear how 683 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: much it'll be he according to Ian Rappaport, he is 684 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: now going down to the minimum salary to, in Ian's words, 685 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: delay his decision, keep the door open if he wants 686 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: to return. But often that's actually an accounting maneuver that 687 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: teams that don't mind spending a little extra cash. This 688 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: is what an owner that likes to spend can do 689 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: for you ultimately an accounting maneuver to open up cap 690 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: space when Toront Armstead has probably gone to retire and 691 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: Steven Ross, who has had his mistakes as Dolphins owner, 692 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: for sure, is not afraid to spend. It's the reason 693 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: why the Dolphins finished tied for first in the NFLPA 694 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: players certainly because their facilities are so nice and all 695 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: the players are treated well and so credit to him, 696 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: and so he's gonna They're gonna find a way to 697 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: spend the money. And yet it's just hard to find 698 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: enough good players to put onto this team. 699 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the issue at the spots where they need them. 700 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: I think they got good contributions from Patrick Paul. I 701 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 3: don't know how much you can rely on town on 702 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 3: like how much. 703 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: He is probably their left tackle. So Patrick Quall was, Yeah, 704 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: their second round pick from a year ago. 705 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 3: And so you get good contributions from from a rookie there. 706 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 3: But there's there's more work to be done than there 707 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 3: is than there's work that that can be done on 708 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 3: this roster. 709 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: And you're gonna have to have everybody come back. You're 710 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 2: gonna have to. 711 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 3: Have relationships mended with Tyreek, You're gonna have to have 712 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: guys get healthy like Bradley Chubb and you know, Jalen 713 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 3: Waddle and keep two on the field all season, and 714 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 3: then you may just be in this situation again next. 715 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: You know. 716 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: Offense, I don't think they're far away. I should. I 717 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: should be careful when I say offensive line. You need 718 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: Patrick Paul to play well, but you drafted him in 719 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: the second round to be your left tackle. That's probably 720 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: what he's gonna be. You need to fix the entire 721 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: guard position, and they've been trying to do that for 722 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: years and haven't been able to do it. So they 723 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: need multiple guards. But they got a free agent pick 724 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: up last year. They liken Aaron Brewer. They've signed Austin Jackson, 725 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: who's been up and down, but you know he's signed 726 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: long term. And your skill position guys for the most part, 727 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: are all back. They cut Raheem Moster, but you need 728 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: a healthy to it. But you have Wattle and Tyreek. 729 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: You don't have any depth there in general, but that's 730 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 1: been the case. It's defense where we receiveing more key players. 731 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: Javon Holland's one of my top safeties that's available. Jordan 732 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: Poyer didn't quite work out with him, So you need 733 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: a couple of safeties. You could use a cornerback. Kalais 734 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: Campbell as a free agent was very valuable that you 735 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: need some defensive lineman right now. In terms of upfront 736 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: guys on the defensive line, Zack Steeler is literally the 737 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: only guy in the entire roster, which is a little problematic. 738 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm not counting Chop Robinson, who's more 739 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: of an edge. But when they are in like a 740 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 1: base three four, it's like Zach Seeler and a couple 741 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: guys that are that are free agents, so they just 742 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: have a lot of work to do. And it's a 743 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: tricky situation where Chris ge Greer is definitely trying to 744 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: keep his job and Mike McDaniel needs a big year 745 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: back last decade, every once in a while, the Dolphins 746 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 1: would pop up as that team that just went crazy 747 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: in the offseason. Maybe they're that team this offseason. Do 748 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 1: you think so they'll just find a way to do it. Yeah. 749 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how or what, but they seem desperate, 750 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: don't you. I think this roster is in desperate need 751 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: of so good players. 752 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 3: I think in terms of our positionally that they they've 753 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 3: gone in the Jhona Smith is a great pickup. I 754 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: think I've a spectacular I think they need another tight end. 755 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 3: They need a blocking tight end, or just invest in 756 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 3: the interior of the offensive line. But with what with 757 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 3: what money? You know, maybe you draft. 758 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: Three guys restructure some of these deals. Bradley Chubb I 759 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: think will be cut. That is my prediction. I'm not 760 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: not rooting for it, but I wouldn't be surprised if 761 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb got cut to open up some space. If 762 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 1: only you could trade cap space, because yeah, let's wrap 763 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: up with the Patriots. You can, can you could they 764 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: just like. 765 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 2: You, trade it to the player and compensate. 766 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: Well, there you go. Could they trade like fifteen million 767 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: dollars of their cap space to a team that needs 768 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: it for a fourth round pick or something? That would 769 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 1: be cool because the Patriots have too much cap space. 770 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: They have one hundred and twenty seven million dollars in 771 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: cap space. That's ridiculous. They have the number four pick 772 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: in the draft because they beat the Bills backups in 773 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: Week eighteen. It was their backups mostly too, but still annoying. Man, 774 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 1: they could just be at one and just draft Travis 775 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: Hunter or trade. If someone wanted to trade for camp Warden, 776 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: maybe they could get Travis Hunter. That's who I want. 777 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: They have an extra third round pick from the Matthew 778 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: Judan trade. So everyone in New England who's picking on 779 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: Elliot Wolf, they hate Elliott Wolf for whatever reason. I 780 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: guess he had a bad year. That's something good he 781 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: did for you. What do the Patriots prioritize first? Because 782 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: it's almost overwhelming everything they need, But what like, what 783 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: is the over arching vision of this new Rabel Elliot Wolf? 784 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: But we don't really necessarily think that Elliot Wolf is 785 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,479 Speaker 1: the one with the juice. I think it's Rabel who's 786 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: kind of running this organization. 787 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 3: I think it's the interior of the offensive defensive lines. Okay, 788 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 3: they go straight to NFL dot com slash Rosenthal, they 789 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 3: get on the top one on one and they and 790 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 3: they call guys like Cam Robinson right that they make 791 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 3: these these calls out to tackles and guards who aren't 792 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 3: necessarily like the top of the market guys, but who 793 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 3: have played on contending teams in the past and played 794 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: so at a decent level to where you can just 795 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 3: get and again not value shopping but getting players who 796 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 3: are good on this football team. 797 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley buzz Yeah. 798 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 2: Ronnie Stanley would be one hundred and twenty seven million dollars. 799 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 3: I think, like I think back to last week right 800 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 3: where you asked Ryan Poles kind of team have too 801 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 3: much cap space? And then he scared both of us 802 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 3: because he's like, well no, and it's like, wait, no, no, 803 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 3: you want to spend the money. You and I understand 804 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 3: you can roll it over to next year. Yeah, but 805 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 3: there's only so many years that are available to do 806 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: something like this, and so you have all that money, 807 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 3: why not as much as I would love Ronnie Stanley 808 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 3: to be playing for the Baltimore Ravens next year, Yeah, 809 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 3: you make him an offer, and you you know, you 810 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 3: change your team because, like Drake May is all that matters. 811 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 3: Like I've learned this in weeks of discussing this with you. 812 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, you make Drake May as protected as possible. 813 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: Now you want a positive Yeah, not a lot of 814 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: impact free agents on this team. 815 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 2: That's the good news to the bad news. 816 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacobe Brissette, they need a backup quarterback, although they 817 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: probably find and rolling with Joe Milton. You kind of 818 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 1: like to have a veteran in there, maybe I would. 819 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,959 Speaker 1: The New England media actually tried to pedal this whole 820 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: Joe Milton is available. That didn't really catch, Like would 821 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: someone give up like a third for Joe Milton and 822 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: they would do that because Joe Milton looked pretty sweet. 823 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 2: I feel like some Centtans would give up with a 824 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 2: three or four. 825 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I think they would do that for maybe not. 826 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: I think the Patriots would do that. They would just 827 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 1: feel like they're selling high. I don't know why. I 828 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: have a good young quarterback Jonathan Jones who's been there 829 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: forever I feel like will probably wind up leaving Dititch wise, 830 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: not a lot of big names in terms of guys 831 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: that could be leaving. Devon Gottscha was also reported as 832 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: available for a trade, so it looks like he will 833 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: probably be released if they do not find a trade 834 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: for him or Joe Milton. And yeah, people have this 835 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: idea that I think, you know, Mike Rabel, you got 836 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: to take a tackle early or it's all about like 837 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: protecting Drake May and improving everything around. I hope that's 838 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: the case, because when I think Mike Rabel, I think 839 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: he's just gonna want big, nasty like defensive players, and 840 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: he's just going to want to make his defense as 841 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: big and as athletic as possible. 842 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if the Patriots roster is good enough 843 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 3: to try to like pick at a position of you know, 844 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 3: personal desire, like like the way Kyle Shanahan drafts, like 845 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 3: the late rounds. I think they really can just and 846 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 3: it's cliche, sit there and take the best player on 847 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 3: the board, which I think right Travis Hunter would would 848 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:02,439 Speaker 3: be nice. 849 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: I would love that. Give me some Travis Hunter. Kean 850 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: White should be back. He kind of had problems with 851 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: the old regime. Christian Barmore. They don't know because of 852 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 1: his blood clout situation. So there really aren't many positions 853 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: where you feel like you're a set maybe guard if 854 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: they believe Cole Strange and Mike when you like there's 855 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: a couple of guards. You've definitely got enough number three receivers, 856 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: You've got like four of them, but you need some 857 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: number two and number one receivers. It's a little anxiety 858 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: inducing as a Patriots fan though, to see all that 859 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: cap space and just think they're going to be the 860 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: team that feels like because they could spend sixty million 861 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: dollars in that cap space and they'd still have sixty 862 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: left over. And there's not like sixty good million out 863 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: there to spend. Really, I don't know, is there you can. 864 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 3: You can make the offers sixty more than sixty million 865 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 3: dollars is going to be spent in free agency here 866 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 3: in the next couple of weeks, right correctly? 867 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: So, I mean, and like you know, but even if 868 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: you signed like a Ronnie Stanley, how much is he 869 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: costing on this year's cap? You could also front load 870 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: things to just since you have all that kind of space, 871 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: use it that way. But either way, like there's not 872 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: enough good players out there to spend all that money. 873 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: I really, I really am curious how this is going 874 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: to go. For Elliot Wolf and Mike Rabel in New England. 875 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 1: You probably don't know about this, but there's like all 876 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: this controversy of like why does Elliott Wolf say he 877 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: has final say? Why is he speaking at the GM 878 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: Elliot Wolf people are very angry about and they just 879 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: want Mike Rabele to be in charge, and like why 880 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: does Elliot Wolf have the final say? And first of all, 881 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: is like Mike Rabel probably ultimately does like he has 882 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: the second of all, is it that great that a 883 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: guy who's your coach is I don't know, just making 884 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: all the decisions. I am. I'm a little worried about 885 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: the whole setup. 886 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Eliot Wolf exists right to draw their iron 887 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 3: criticism as a shield for Mike Rabel, who's ultimately and again, 888 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 3: there's a whole there's a whole coalition of folks in 889 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 3: Foxboro who are going to make the decisions. But yeah, 890 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 3: it would make sense for Mike ver Able to have 891 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 3: significant input. 892 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: Right because when I, of course, and uh like, I 893 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: look at the free agent class and I want them 894 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: to add like they could use one of those off 895 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: ball linebackers I talked to about. I think, spend the 896 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: money where the players are actually good, which is there's 897 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: a decent amount of players in the secondary. Could you 898 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: get a Charvarius Ward or someone like that, or a 899 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: Sante Samuel bring him to New England after all the 900 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: issues with his dad. There's good safeties out there. But 901 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: don't just spend just to spend. Don't add a third 902 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: another third receiver, like we don't. They don't need to 903 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: add Elijah more to this group, you know what I mean? Like, 904 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: there's not top tier receivers. They don't need to add 905 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: Darius Layton. Even though Darius Layton will help a team 906 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: out there, it's not the Jets. You don't need to 907 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 1: add Naje Harris or JK. Dobbins to this group good players, 908 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: but like you have Ramandra and two, don't be adding 909 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,399 Speaker 1: one of Eric smiling because the one team we got 910 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 1: to seven minutes on was the Patriots. Of course, the 911 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:00,919 Speaker 1: only one. 912 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 2: Shut up. 913 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,919 Speaker 1: Let's wrap the show talking about our friend. We heard 914 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: the news in Indianapolis and it was so much the 915 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: process that we wanted to give it. It's full yeah, 916 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: let it breathe full impact today. Over the years, Patrick, 917 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,919 Speaker 1: we have enjoyed listening to the vocal stylings of Ron 918 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: Wolfley on the Arizona Cardinals broadcast. 919 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 2: That is absolutely huge right. 920 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: There, Like what what what about him? 921 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 3: Sticks out to you? The fact that he sticks out 922 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 3: at all. You know, as we get into these later 923 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 3: stages of capitalism, there is an extent of sameness everywhere, 924 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,720 Speaker 3: similar stylings, speech patterns, and this this non regional dialect 925 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 3: that US broadcasters have. It's nice, it's standard, and it works, 926 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 3: and it's worked for upwards of sixty years, kind of 927 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 3: mimicking a Midwestern like an Ohio type deal. 928 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,439 Speaker 2: But it's cool. 929 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: Is that what you're doing. 930 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 2: No, it's what we all do. And it's like it's 931 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 2: not like shit, it's time to talk about. 932 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 3: The news, Like we got rid of that and then 933 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 3: we went to what we have now. And to have 934 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 3: somebody still be unique in doing it and have people 935 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 3: love it, it's worth celebrating. And that's what I love 936 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 3: about Ron and I hope he's able to enjoy retirement. 937 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to know where he got these phrases from 938 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: because they always seem like they were off the dome. 939 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: But did he just have like seventy different phrases that 940 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: he could just always pull upon in the biggest of 941 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: moments or do was he just coming up with it? 942 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: Maybe we should have him on sometimes. 943 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, like a rolodex of terms and idioms that just 944 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 3: seem to apply. 945 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know even what accent he had. Maybe 946 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: it's Pittsburgh, I think that is maybe where he's from. 947 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 3: But he's from But regardless of the accents, like the 948 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 3: vocal stylingce or so inherently and I'm glad that we 949 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 3: get another one. 950 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 2: Uh, you know that that we can enjoy. But but 951 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 2: Ron's there. 952 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 3: There was something unique and special about Ron, even different 953 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 3: from his brother right that we were able to experience 954 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 3: in Arizona. 955 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: I loved it, and I love when you talk about 956 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: the stages of capitalism. It really gets a big reaction 957 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 1: from Chris back there. I think I think they like 958 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: whenever you bring up the where we're at, the circumstances, 959 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: the capitalism there. It's just funny that that that's that's 960 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: what gets the reach. 961 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 2: Hey, it's an upgrade from feudalism. 962 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: Hey, maybe my voice might be annoying, but it's not 963 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: just a flattened out Midwestern accent. How about that. It's different. 964 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: We will be back. Like I mentioned on Wednesday, we're 965 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 1: trying to stay in a regular cadence this week where 966 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: the shows are posting overnight, so you'll have it in 967 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 1: your feed on Wednesday morning. Yes, we're getting back the 968 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: CEA next Tuesday, crew calling Wolf and Jordan Rodrigg. So 969 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: looking forward to that. Talking a little AFC than some 970 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: other assorted fun We will take you out by listening, 971 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: and I'm doing it for the first time to a 972 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: collection of the greatest uh one minute and forty five 973 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: seconds of sound. You're ever gonna hear from our friend 974 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: Ron Woefully, we'll see you Wednesday. 975 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 6: You can't cover Duke. You're not gonna be able to 976 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 6: cover him. Throw the ball up. That's what Kyler Murray did. 977 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 6: He extended the play with his legs. It just shut down. 978 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 7: Thing up into the air, into the desert, sky Baby. 979 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 7: The hop brought it down, touch down. 980 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 8: Spin the pig, Kyler, spin it, drop it sun diving, 981 00:48:54,080 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 8: drops into the buckets right over the shoulder Marvin Harrison Junior, Ohlickey, Jago, 982 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 8: Patrick Peterson, it over time, takes it to the house 983 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 8: and Big Red wins. 984 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. 985 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 8: Larry Fitzgerald went up and stabbed it with his stealing knyes. 986 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 8: The wind knocked the pig out of the air. DJ 987 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 8: Dallas had the opportunity to return that ball. Oh my goodness, 988 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 8: what a great play by DJ Dallas. Forget about the 989 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 8: five round, David, forget about the hell Mary, how about 990 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 8: the hell Lamari ste Ricado. The bears never saw it 991 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 8: come in. 992 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 2: What is it again? 993 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: Pick up my docket? 994 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 6: Fucking running near side of the fifteenth, fucking inside to ten. 995 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: That's it. 996 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 8: The coiners half shot the world trait but true. 997 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: The coins of the going to Super Bowl forty. 998 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 8: Hey, how about that, David, the Arizona Cardinals, Saby go 999 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 8: to the show.