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Speaker 1: Welcome to Horrible Decisions. I'm your girl, Mandy B. And

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Speaker 1: chief conspirator of NSFW. Yes, and here so amazing that

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into the show, um, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna come back, and we're gonna let our listeners know

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Speaker 1: why to hell you up here with two hoes so well,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he knows them all. So we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: started with a kink of the week, which is inspired

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Speaker 1: by something I saw on your Instagram page, which is

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Speaker 1: rubber fetishism or latex fetishism. It's the attraction to people

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Speaker 1: wearing latex clothing in certain cases UM PVC. It's when

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Speaker 1: you see those shiny clothes all black, that plastic looking

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Speaker 1: polyvinyl material made of rubber or generally thicker um if

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Speaker 1: it's Robbert, it's like less shiny, more matt than latex.

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Speaker 1: But the reason people like it, the motives I've read about,

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Speaker 1: is because it feels like a second skin kind of

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Speaker 1: sounds like some ship that probably wouldn't fit me, which

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Speaker 1: is probably why I never looked at no god damn latex.

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Speaker 1: That it's like a one slaze fits all type of thing,

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Speaker 1: right it has. I mean, it's it's not that much.

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Speaker 1: It's not that much stress. And that's why my wearing.

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Speaker 1: Like before we started recording, we were actually talking about

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Speaker 1: as a teenager I had ever seen like the gas masks.

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Speaker 1: And I know that people like them because it shortens

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Speaker 1: about short breath like choken and almost die constantly. Can

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Speaker 1: you can you explain a little bit about like, um,

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Speaker 1: I saw it on your page, So when people are

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Speaker 1: wearing it, like is this normally like their look is

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Speaker 1: just like their alter ego. UM. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: the whole second skin thing is really what touches a

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Speaker 1: lot of people for it. UM. It really requires a

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Speaker 1: lot to get into, Like you're literally lotioning it up

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Speaker 1: doesn't rip or anything else like that. Now, are they

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Speaker 1: So like I think it's you know, the look is

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Speaker 1: As you guys know, we introduced Vanilla Ship back into

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Speaker 1: the show. This is where we pick an article about

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Speaker 1: How a former Jehovah's Witness is running an exclusive New

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Speaker 1: everything in the article, however, Um, let's actually let's go

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Speaker 1: talking for a second. Soho House I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about with Soho Houses. We got a lot of listeners

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Speaker 1: that may not know. Soho House is a member's only club.

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Speaker 1: Um that is known for its only creatives are allowed,

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Speaker 1: no suits and ties. Um. If you see me thoughting

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Speaker 1: Soma zombie from now. But it's very expensive. It's four

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Speaker 1: Mandy when she walked in here. The only black people

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Speaker 1: And then when I was in the one in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: I saw Shawn Mary and who the NBA player. But

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Speaker 1: like you said, there's not really many. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: and so this is a sex club like not many others.

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Speaker 1: what is this colection process for that? Right now? You know,

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Speaker 1: we have a council of members who go through interview

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Speaker 1: A lot of the events that we do are more

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Speaker 1: focused on education. What's it stand for again? Can you tell?

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Speaker 1: It sends for the New Society for Wellness Okay? For work?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and I mean I'm not saying for work

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Speaker 1: But no, no, the the experience is very unique. Like

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of sex clubs, there's this expectation

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Speaker 1: or you're going into like a kink BDSM date. That's

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Speaker 1: why you said the Soho house because everybody in Soho

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Speaker 1: in my house knows each other, and if you walk

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Speaker 1: I'm Bryant, what's your name? Okay, So that's a big

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Speaker 1: element of it. And also like it's just much prettier,

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Speaker 1: to him and his wife for a while and he

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Speaker 1: was just like, well, you know, I mean, I don't

428
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Speaker 1: know why you guys came here. So yeah, I mean,

429
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Speaker 1: I think it's oppold. It's like that that made us

430
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Speaker 1: create this, you know, and made me want to create this. Um.

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Speaker 1: We want to be everyone's first sex club. We want

432
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Speaker 1: to be the first thing they experienced, just because if

433
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Speaker 1: you go to the wrong one, you might be sexually curious,

434
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Speaker 1: you might be interested in having like more of an

435
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Speaker 1: interesting life and living a little bit more adventurously, but

436
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Speaker 1: you're gonna pull back because you're going to experience something

437
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Speaker 1: that was negative. Like you that you went to chemistry once.

438
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Speaker 1: If you had an amazing experience there, like I'm sure

439
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Speaker 1: you would have tried going again. Like the people, I

440
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Speaker 1: was surprised, we're attractive in f you said. There was

441
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Speaker 1: a lot of older, kind of creepy dudes, but they

442
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Speaker 1: were attractive enough. I didn't really see anyone that was

443
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Speaker 1: wasn't I wouldn't. I would say that they do. They

444
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Speaker 1: vetted people really pretty well. But I mean as far

445
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Speaker 1: as looks went, I guess yeah. I mean I had

446
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Speaker 1: a great time at Caligula as well. It was a

447
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Speaker 1: Halloween theme party, though it was a little yeah, you know,

448
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: everyone was in their costumes. It was a lot of fun. Um. Ironically,

449
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: though before me and my friend went, like I had

450
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Speaker 1: kind of just mentioned it to a couple of the

451
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Speaker 1: guys that I talked to, And ironically, for the women

452
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Speaker 1: who are interested in going, I think you'd be surprised

453
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Speaker 1: how many men of color would be interested in going

454
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Speaker 1: to these sex clubs. Like we love to get accompanied

455
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Speaker 1: by a woman at yours as well yours. Yeah, so

456
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Speaker 1: certain events you can come solo. Admit, the amount of

457
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Speaker 1: tickets that are sold for solo majority of our audience.

458
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Speaker 1: So and the bulk of membership is female. We're about female.

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Speaker 1: So how do you because you're by we were reading

460
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Speaker 1: about that, So how do you do that? But also

461
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Speaker 1: encourage LGB team members like is it we're courage those? Um,

462
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: it's a really fluid group of people, honestly, Like I think, yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: I mean most sex parties are and you know there's

464
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Speaker 1: there is an opportunity to explore. I think with back

465
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Speaker 1: Page being shut down, craiglist being shut down, like people

466
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Speaker 1: were exploring. Like when I was exploring and kind of

467
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out my bisexuality, it was like I

468
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Speaker 1: want to check out the stuff and do it anonymously

469
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Speaker 1: and do its safe. That doesn't exist anymore, you know,

470
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Speaker 1: and you know, the play parties and the sex clubs

471
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Speaker 1: are going to grow a lot more like you're gonna

472
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Speaker 1: hear not just us, but like it's really like a

473
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Speaker 1: rising topic thing's happening. And I think it's a big

474
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Speaker 1: reason why we are becoming so successful because there's no

475
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Speaker 1: longer that place to explore. There's no longer that safe

476
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Speaker 1: place to be anonymous in a sense and just kind

477
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Speaker 1: of try the things that you want to try sexually.

478
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Speaker 1: So a place like in a FW where you know

479
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Speaker 1: it is a safe, judgment free place. We try to

480
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Speaker 1: be inclusive of all people, like it's a good place

481
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Speaker 1: to go and try things. Um, but yeah, it's like

482
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Speaker 1: the membership varies. Like we have an all female event

483
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Speaker 1: coming up which is fem Dom in which we're training

484
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Speaker 1: women to be you know, shut your out. That's what

485
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Speaker 1: she look, I don't want to have to go through

486
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Speaker 1: no process. Okay, you said, though, if you had switchy,

487
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Speaker 1: it's getting boring. I mean, I'm swebbing the ship me.

488
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about slaps the facebood on me. He's like,

489
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Speaker 1: I gonna yeah, unless it's like a really good dom

490
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Speaker 1: and like there's some other stuff to add on there.

491
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Speaker 1: But it's good to switch. It's good to like, you know,

492
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Speaker 1: like exploring them. Speaking of exploring, let's take a break

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Speaker 1: to the show. Okay, So, if you guys haven't noticed,

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Speaker 1: a horrible decision for the week is sex love shit?

534
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Speaker 1: So I mean, let's just get into a little more

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Speaker 1: posh it. So it's that celebrities, models, actors. I'm dying

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Speaker 1: to know. What has there ever been like an n

537
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Speaker 1: DA or like someone that's contacted you safe? Like that's

538
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Speaker 1: how famous I am. Make sure that this doesn't get out?

539
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: How do they else you can't take get kicked out?

540
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Speaker 1: Which you can't take any sex like they really try

541
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Speaker 1: to protect celebrities. How what process have you had to

542
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Speaker 1: go through for a celebrity? Yeah, I mean, I think

543
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Speaker 1: for the most part, it's an interesting crowd of people

544
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Speaker 1: because it's a lot of people who are successful already

545
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Speaker 1: and already have kind of you done really cool ship

546
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Speaker 1: in their lives. Um. People kind of get excited when

547
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Speaker 1: there's someone who's famous there. But for the most part,

548
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Speaker 1: I feel like because of everything that we're pushing and

549
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Speaker 1: everything that we're trying to teach and everything that we're

550
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Speaker 1: trying to like crowd, they know how to act. They

551
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Speaker 1: know how to act from crowd. It's not someone who's

552
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Speaker 1: like trying to take a photo. Can I take a dick?

553
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Speaker 1: Oh my god? I love Black Panther? Seriously, there's definitely like, yeah,

554
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: well sometimes you know you can't. It's kind of like

555
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: an excitement. It's like we've been Charlotte and we've been

556
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 1: doing podcast in a while, and I still about how

557
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Speaker 1: you want to suck Charlotmagne dick and his wife. I

558
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: can't stop talking to suck Charletmagne dick. And I didn't say,

559
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying his wife. I have a really big

560
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Speaker 1: you would God, I have to suck Charlemagne's dick too,

561
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: that's fine. And if I can get to the wife, well,

562
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Speaker 1: can I ask you what celebrity would you just be like,

563
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, let me stick your day or let

564
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Speaker 1: me eat Yeah, let's get one on each end. Oh

565
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Speaker 1: Donald lover her whoa really, Oh my god, I just

566
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Speaker 1: can't really just like, what's the woman that you'd want

567
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: that I want? Um, Jennifer Lawrence. But it's like kind

568
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Speaker 1: of lame. Really, I don't I don't think it's her

569
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Speaker 1: attitude that's her, that's that's from the movie. Um, Hunger Game,

570
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: Hunger Game. Okay, Yeah, I think it's just like her

571
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: attitude is pretty cool. But she seems like seems like

572
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: a good fun I mean and Jennifer Lopez obviously, Jennifer,

573
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Speaker 1: I want to know who you want to fuck, go

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Speaker 1: ahead share with us. I'm one with the Lord right now.

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Speaker 1: I can not with you. And what about you? Um

576
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna be right Charlotte, I don't know. I

577
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: don't want to show me that. Just after Black Panther

578
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Speaker 1: and Baku I don't know his real name, but the

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Speaker 1: one that's like THEE and I watched Infinity War and

580
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Speaker 1: you know, would you my lit white Man and I

581
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Speaker 1: was like, oh my god when he got on the screen,

582
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Speaker 1: I jumped a little bit. I was like, oh, you know,

583
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Speaker 1: I of the movie. And as far as women, Prena

584
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Speaker 1: Chopra right now, it's like you do like her, you

585
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: post her a lot. I love that mouth. Bro. I'm

586
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Speaker 1: really weird. So I have this thing right now and

587
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Speaker 1: I don't know why I want him so bad because

588
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Speaker 1: he's not my hype requirement. But he's like the creative

589
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: spirit that I like right now. I really like Tydalla Sign.

590
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Speaker 1: He could get the pussy raw, oh my god, and

591
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Speaker 1: he's like, I mean I didn't stay could eat it raw. Um.

592
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: And then as far as the girl who I would

593
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Speaker 1: fuck right now, I don't want to be typical and

594
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Speaker 1: say fucking Rihanna, but of course Rihanna, I mean you

595
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Speaker 1: want to go. I don't think Rihanna over Jayla. Jayla

596
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: probably got some tricks, but she might be su time.

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Speaker 1: You know, Rihanna, you know how weed is good does too.

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Speaker 1: But like I know you said you did you see

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Speaker 1: her bracelet at Coachella this I know you wanted it.

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Speaker 1: I know you did. Actually you don't even drink looking

601
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: in real life, but I mean other alternatives. Um. So

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00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: speaking of alternatives, um, you said you don't allow why

603
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Speaker 1: don't we? Oh, I'm sorry. We have a couple and

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00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: I want you guys to google because I masturbate to

605
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: them a lot. Joel Kinneman and his wife Chloe from

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Speaker 1: did you guys watch Aldred Carbon? No, I don't know

607
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: why you keep talking about them. They are not good looking. Bro.

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Speaker 1: I would do Jason Momoa way before. Hello, thank you,

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Speaker 1: We Lisa, Okay, we're gonna go after. So I wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask you, so they you said that there's no

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Speaker 1: liquor involved. Is this the place where maybe they can

612
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Speaker 1: smoke weed? It is fine? I mean, like we I

613
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Speaker 1: smoke so much weed. I don't like there's no way

614
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: of posting event without me smoking weed. So yeah, weed

615
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: is perfectly fine. And like a lot of our focus

616
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: again is on wellness. It's a focus on achieving better orgasms.

617
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Speaker 1: It's a focus on achieving better experiences through sex, better

618
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Speaker 1: can acted sex, as well as explaining the b D

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Speaker 1: s M side without looking like someone who's desperate around

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Speaker 1: fifty shapes great, right, But on the cannabis side, it's

621
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Speaker 1: very important to explore cannabis as a medicine and understand

622
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Speaker 1: what cannabis does in terms of, you know, just making

623
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Speaker 1: you feel better and dealing with pain and dealing with

624
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Speaker 1: a lot of things. So um, we strongly encourage cannabis

625
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: and just the exploration of like really natural types of

626
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Speaker 1: things that now I want to get into, like some

627
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Speaker 1: kinky ship like something. I actually went next question, So

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Speaker 1: let's get next. What the what the black men and

629
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Speaker 1: black women that are going to listen to this? I

630
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: already know a common fetish for black women men that

631
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: come into sex clubs is cuck holding. It's what we

632
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Speaker 1: see important. Oh your BBC ship like that, so that

633
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Speaker 1: it made me think of that. But can you break

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Speaker 1: it down a little bit. Cuck Holding is just basically

635
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Speaker 1: someone watching and not being able to Yeah. Yeah, it's

636
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Speaker 1: basically the man is not able to do anything while

637
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Speaker 1: his wife is getting satisfied better by someone. And it's

638
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: a lot of ship talking like oh my god, he's

639
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: sucking me so good, you wish you well, And a

640
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: lot of times it is a black man with a

641
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: white I cannot find it has to be. So I

642
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: went to Jamaica. I went to hedonism. And for you

643
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: guys who may be looking for a resort to where

644
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: you can't have open sex or free sex or be nude,

645
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: he Didn'tism in Jamaica um allows you to kind of

646
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: be free and be open and talk to other couples

647
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: and exchange and it's it's a lot of fun. But

648
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: that's literally So that's what happened. So we were it

649
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: was the piano night where they were doing a bar

650
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: um and the guy was doing these you know, piano songs,

651
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: and so there was a white couple. What I don't

652
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: know why you're playing the piano, Alicia. And so there

653
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: was a couple there and she had condoms in her pouch,

654
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: and so the guy playing the piano tried to make

655
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: a joke and was like, oh, well these are kind

656
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: of small and um. The husband was like, oh well

657
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: those aren't for me anyways, like I don't use them.

658
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: And so the couple was openly explaining how I brought

659
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: her here and hopefully we find like she wants a

660
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: black man and said it, and that's why they came

661
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: to Jamaica specifically. So I mean what you're laughing, it's

662
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: got the best, got to have good days, I mean Jamaica.

663
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 1: And so how often is this something that happens at

664
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: NSFW with the cut holding doesn't happen with black men men?

665
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: Do you find that the single black men have been

666
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: like sought after by couples, I think because we need

667
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: more of them? Yes, like two degrees Okay, So if

668
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: you're black and listening, they need you, Jesus, how would

669
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: you feel about sleeping with someone's life? Like, I mean,

670
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: if I'm doing a good service, you're definitely a lot

671
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: of people don't like it. Like, how would you feel

672
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: about someone's wife because it gets them off? And because

673
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: you're black? Because I know we're talking about a lot.

674
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: I think the only thing I would be waited out

675
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: by is the husband right there the whole time. But

676
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean, but that's really the part that's the point

677
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: of it. A lot of times a husband wants a

678
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: little bit too. Yeah, what are the real nasty like

679
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: what would you let the wife make her husband's like

680
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: your day? Wait, I don't want to take it that extreme,

681
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: because here's what's scenario. It does happen. It happen here.

682
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: What about this super fine wife and she's like, I

683
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: want you to come in my mouth, but my husband

684
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: does want to kiss me after? Are you cool with that? Like?

685
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be cool with like them come swapping?

686
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean I could close my eyes, Yeah cool, I

687
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: don't given what do you do after you could close

688
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: your eyes? What is kind of like, what's a common

689
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: thing that you're seeing. I mean, we get a lot

690
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: of requests for class that we do on squirting. Um,

691
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: that's really popular. Like just simple things is really popular.

692
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: Impact play is really good. What if I impact play? Um?

693
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: So impact play is of course that we do. That's

694
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: focus on all the different toys you can use for spanking, paddles, flogs.

695
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: We had an episode where a guy came on and

696
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: explain the flogging and just the different flogging on my boosy.

697
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: It's like it's education around that. Where on the body

698
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: you can do that? How do you work up to it?

699
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: A lot of people think of that and just like

700
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: go straight to the hard whipping. They don't communicate things,

701
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: They don't realize that it's a build up and they

702
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: don't play with that build up. So that one's pretty popular.

703
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: Um yeah, this class Sucks, which is our oral sex class,

704
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: is really popular. So I have a question. UM, so,

705
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: one of a guy that I used to talk to

706
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: and I won't say his name because y'all all know UM,

707
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: because I didn't mentioned him on the thing before. Anyways,

708
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: I one of the one of them has been to sex,

709
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: has been to um sex clubs before, and actually um

710
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: grew interested in the transgenders that were there. So I

711
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: wanted to know if you have many transgender women men

712
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: at your SUBW and how they part play and yeah,

713
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: a lot of Yeah, and if there's any issue with that,

714
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: because I know some people may still feel uncomfortable, but

715
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: how are they welcomed into n s f W. I

716
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: mean we do have trans sexual members, Um, you know,

717
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: I I don't. I think for the most part, like

718
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: people don't realize that they are until like, so this

719
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: really is the good ship. And honestly, we had a

720
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: transcut I had watched so many videos of him. I

721
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: had no idea. I didn't even gonna hold you. I

722
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: still didn't talk into him the whole time. I was

723
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: staring like shout out and shout out to him and

724
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: his girlfriend because honey, I passed them on Tinder. They're

725
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: looking really yeah they wanted I took a screenshot. Yeah.

726
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: But that's the thing though, like they are very like possible,

727
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: like yeah, I mean I think there's a lot of that.

728
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: And again, it's just like as long as you kind

729
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: of fit the criteria, like attraction is important, and we

730
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: are looking for people who are attractive, like you want

731
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: to have sex with people who are attractive. I think

732
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: about it in terms of, like, I'm kind of sharing

733
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: my bed and like, who would I techinitely want in

734
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: my bed um, and like trying to, you know, respect that.

735
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: A lot of people get piste off about that, like, oh,

736
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: you hate people, but it's yes, It's like this is

737
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: a sexual show on Showtime called Polyamory. Remember I loved

738
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: that show, and um it actually helped me realize that

739
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: I can stop being jealous and be more open. But

740
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: one of the things you steal jealous Alex, like, of

741
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: course you're gonna have to deal I have to deal

742
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: with jealously. I guess she's working. What's part of relationships? Look,

743
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: people like, look, I'm not no fucking feaking bitch on

744
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: my jealousy with Taomi over here talking about she don't

745
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: get jealous and blah blah blah, I don't care what

746
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: he does. Like, no, of course I get emotional ship

747
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: like that, but I do want this, so I'm learning

748
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: to work through it now. I was very shocked when

749
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: I read about threads where people were like, oh, you

750
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: guys only showed hot people at these parties, Why don't

751
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: worried about us? Blah blah blah, and wait, seriously, what

752
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: about people? Okay, I'm not real quick, right one is

753
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: I to know? Try pussy and I don't care how

754
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: big or small it is, how long, whatever, I just

755
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: want a nice Wait, what's what's attractive? On what's not?

756
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: Because I'm not gonna lie. You just sat here and said,

757
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: um that one of your celebrity crushes is Donald Glover.

758
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: He to me, is not very attractive, really serious, Hold on,

759
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: you'd be willing to say that he's ugly, that he's

760
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: not attractive. He might not be your cup of team. Okay,

761
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: let's pay that to be attractive to you for you

762
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: to know that I get that. Okay, So where in

763
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: the spectrum do you reach ugly you're not accepted, That's

764
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say, Like, well, I think that's

765
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: like everyone always talks about like the attraction level or

766
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: like if they have to be rich, and it's like

767
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: a lot of words that are used. But when you're

768
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: going through the process of like seeing people, you have

769
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: their profile questions, you have more information about them. You're

770
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: seeing they provide their face to book link in or

771
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: Instagram account, you can find them online. So a lot

772
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: of it is, you know, looking through this profiles and

773
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: saying like, well, what type of life does this person have?

774
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: If they're not the most attractive person, then it's like,

775
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: well is there life interesting? Is there life adventures interesting?

776
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: Are they traveling a lot? Do they have do they

777
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: have an interesting do they have an interesting creat creative

778
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: individual who like is creating great things? Like we look

779
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: at it differently because for us, it's more about, you know,

780
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: the people that you'd want to have a conversation with

781
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: and actually have a friendship with before you're thinking about

782
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: the people that you want to I mean, that's are cute,

783
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: they got money. Attraction, Like what I see as attractive

784
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: is not what other people see as attractive. There's the

785
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: women out there who are beautiful, but you know they

786
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: see attraction as like is he funny? Is he interesting?

787
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: Is this? Is he motivated? Is he like doing it

788
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: in his life? And that's attractive? You know, it's not

789
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: like always the physical beauty side of it. There's other

790
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: things that we consider and that's why we have the

791
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: council to it because everyone kind of like how many

792
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: people looks for we have right now there's like five

793
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: six people on the count, so we and a lot

794
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: of times members who have been there for a while

795
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: or the once to refer new people. Yeah, it's like

796
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: they've been there for a while, so they're like, oh,

797
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm keep they just keep bringing people in. Now that

798
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: you live with your boyfriend in the West Village, do

799
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: you and your boyfriend participate at your parties? Do you participate? Yeah,

800
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Like it would be really unfun if like I didn't

801
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: never know, like and I think for me, it's like

802
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn its stuff about sex to like

803
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: we've done you know, we've done over a hundred events. Now, Um,

804
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 1: I'm trying to add workshops. Have you had some male

805
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: I know, your byes, your boyfriend by so you had

806
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: some male male females for three sons? We had a

807
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: girlfriend for a while, oh show Well, speaking of bisexualmen,

808
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: we actually had a homemale submission. So well, I want

809
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: to I want to bring this up because well, wait,

810
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: there's one important piece to this that we're forget and

811
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: it's um that you're an extra Hova's witness. Well we

812
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: can jump around because we were already talking about bisexuality

813
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: and back in because I have a religious question. I

814
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: just want to I just say we were just talking

815
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: about bi sexuality. Can we just keep it on bisexuality,

816
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: then we'll bring up religion. So we're gonna bring up

817
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: the home mail. Literally never go back. I'm just saying

818
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: we can go right back. Um Jesus so the So

819
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: we got a question from one of our listeners. Y'all

820
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: do group therapy? Bitch, you just want to go off

821
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: listen right? Can we start talk to me right now?

822
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: Let me go ahead text my therapist. UM, So we

823
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: have a homemail sentence from a bisexual man with a question.

824
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: He says that I am a professional blackmail in my

825
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: late twenties. I'm masculine, good looking, in great shape, um,

826
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: doing great in my career, and I'm bisexual. My sexuality

827
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: has caused me anxiety and deep depression in the past.

828
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: I felt ashamed, guilty, embarrassed, and even hated myself for

829
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: having an interest in men. During some of my worst

830
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: day I even had suicidal thoughts. The self hate caused

831
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: me to have no confidence and low self esteem, so

832
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: my sex and dating life was non existent in my

833
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: early and mid twenties. I knew you were. One of

834
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: the worst parts of bisexuality is the loneliness. I've always

835
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: wanted to meet or know what someone else like me

836
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: had the same thoughts. Because I used to feel like

837
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 1: I was crazy. At times, I would ask myself, why

838
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: the funk am I like this? Over the past year,

839
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: I've done a better job being honest with myself, accepting myself,

840
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: and loving myself. As a result, my confidence and self

841
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: esteem has increased tenfold. My dating and sex life is

842
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: going great with women, and I'm really starting to enjoy

843
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: being single my twenties. The fact that both of y'all

844
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: are beautiful black and Sophia ratchet that's what that's what

845
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: you want to call us ratchets whatever that means, Hey,

846
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: that we would classically class you the fun. The fact

847
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: that you women are both open to bisexual men has

848
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: given me given me a big boost of confidence. Thank

849
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: you for being open about and discussing this topic and

850
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: other kinky Nancy ship on your show. It has really

851
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: changed my life. So here's his question. I am not

852
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: out as bisexual because I rather keep it to myself

853
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: and I don't think it needs to be everyone's business.

854
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: And I'm not into the gay scene, nor am I

855
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: interested in really gay men. I like masculine men who

856
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: don't appear as gay. Me too. I think one of

857
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: my best friends is interested in men. He's given me

858
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: a lot of signals in the past that he's interested,

859
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: um like being touchy, holding eye contact, joking about trying

860
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: new things quote unquote when it comes to sex, etcetera.

861
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes I have doubts because, um, he's still completely shuts

862
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: all of that off, But my gut still tells me

863
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: he's interested. This sounds like a simple, stupid question, But

864
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: how the funk do I bring it up or ask

865
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: him if he's interested in being open minded about trying

866
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: things with a man? Um? And then he says, just

867
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: keep doing what y'all do, thanks for the dope content,

868
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: and thanks for changing my life. So you're the only

869
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: one I can really answer this. So I'm so glad

870
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: we got you on here. How does he come about

871
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: maybe pushing the question to his best friend that he's

872
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: not sure is interested in men, or not bring a

873
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: girl into it, like if he's already it would be

874
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: more of like, hey, we're let's team up. Um um no,

875
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: But honestly, that would probably be the easiest way. It

876
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: makes the other guy comfortable. It doesn't feel like, you know,

877
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: a gay situation necessarily or you know, the mental blocks

878
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: aren't there as much. This man probably hasn't explored too

879
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: much with men before. He's probably gonna be more comfortable

880
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: in a situation with another woman there as well. So

881
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: I would say if he's attractive, like he probably you know,

882
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: has women that he's having sex with, and um, you know,

883
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: I think what's interesting is like when you talk to

884
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: women about having sex with two men, the option is

885
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: never really there. So a lot of women get rich

886
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: and a lot of women want that bisexual male experience.

887
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: I know I do. That's one of the things. I

888
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: think that's the one thing that's like most fetishized about,

889
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: Like me and my boyfriend is just like it's it's great, Um,

890
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: but I think it's like there's also like the desire

891
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: to find that with a lot of women because you know,

892
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: the male fantasy of two girls is so so like

893
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't have one dick, Like what's the point, Like

894
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, you got to like there's some holes. Yeah, So, um,

895
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: I think that would be his best approach. It's just

896
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: like talk to a female that he's game up with,

897
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: see if she's interested in the fantasy. I really like

898
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: that I was going to go to my gay porn

899
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: and be like, you know, like I watch a lot

900
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: of gay porn where they're both supposed to be straight

901
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: men and they'd like get high off playing cards and

902
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: they're just drunk and then they start feeling on each other.

903
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that really works for life,

904
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: but that does work, So that works in your life.

905
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, maybe best busy is waiting for you. Okay,

906
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: So I guess what we're gonna do now is we're

907
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: gonna revert because you know, back to we these conversations.

908
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: So gonna go back a little bit because in the

909
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: article of the Daily Mail, one thing that stuck out

910
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: to us, um, and one thing that was actually just

911
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: mentioned to us on Patreon. Someone wanted us to do

912
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: an episode about sex and religion. Now, neither of us

913
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: are very religious, but when we run we see a

914
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: lot of you guys stuff. We just had a disabled

915
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: guy asked us to do episode, and I asked him like,

916
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: can you come on, because I'm not about to speak

917
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: for people that a disabled right or religious? It's not right.

918
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: So here's the questions that I have, UM, what broke

919
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: you from that religious life, I think, you know, being bisexual,

920
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: like I knew at an early age, around twelve, I

921
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: knew I was attracted to, you know, both men and women.

922
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: I think one of my first sexual experiences was with

923
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: a male friend of mine, Um, you know, really early

924
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: on and then later on with women. And you know,

925
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: I just kind of always had that in me. Um.

926
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, being in a very strict,

927
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, traditionally Christian religion, you know, homosexuality is not okay.

928
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: By sexuality, Latinos are very religious. Yeah, exactly asked. And

929
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't want the listeners. That gets an ignorant question.

930
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: Jehovah's witness. I just know that y'all knock on doors?

931
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: What I mean, I'm sorry, what is that? Ar? What

932
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: my mom just said? Don't answer the door? So what

933
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: what the Jehovah's witness? Like? Religion? Is it? Y'all believe

934
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: in God? Or y'all don't shut up? Alex meant just google.

935
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: You shouldn't even people. It's like I can go through

936
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: pretty quick. I mean, it's a very it's a very

937
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: strict Christian religion. Um. You know, they have the New

938
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: and the Old Testament. There's a lot of study of

939
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: the Bible. In it, we would go to church three

940
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: times a week about two hours each time additional study.

941
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: I can't three times two and a half hours. Ye

942
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: do about like forty hours of witnessing per month. To

943
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: you're out there kind of teaching. You're constantly studying out

944
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: the religions, understand how to in a sense break them

945
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: down and like show people like why that's wrong or

946
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: why it's incorrect. They believe that it's Yeah, so like

947
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, Hinduism, I can point out here are the

948
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 1: things that are off about that, or Buddhist or anything

949
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: else like that. Like you study religions so much so

950
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, to convince you that yours was wrong.

951
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's it's a conversion. It's the door.

952
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I have had knocking on the door. It's true.

953
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't work, it does. I mean a lot of

954
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: people out there, you know, and they're sad, they're they're misguided,

955
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: they don't really you know, have a sense of happiness

956
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: in their life. And I think the religion brings a

957
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: sense of community that isn't really available elsewhere. And it's

958
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: a very diverse group of individuals. It's a global organization.

959
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: You can fly anywhere in the world, you can say

960
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: with other witnesses. You feel safe within it um and

961
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: you know it's not a religion with a lot of

962
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: controversy within it. You know, the people they're trying to

963
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: be the best people that they can be. A lot

964
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: of that requires them to disconnect from everything else, and

965
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: a lot of the other people out there are seen

966
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: as worldly m or people that you don't associate with. So,

967
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm thirty five, when you damn right,

968
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: you know you like, Letay don't correct? I wanted to.

969
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you how old you were when

970
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: you realized that you may need to leave this life alone.

971
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: I think when Drastic Park came out, like I was like,

972
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: dinosaurs are real and they don't believe that dinosaurs are real.

973
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: So well, most Christians don't believe dinosaurs are real. Most

974
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: Christians believe the earth has only been around for six

975
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: thousand years. Have you ever watched Jesus Camp. It's a

976
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: documentary on Netflix where these little kids were crying. They

977
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: were like, Harry Potter is going to be as bad

978
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: as Yeah, I was doing allowed to read Harry Potters.

979
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: It's a lot of you know, it's it's um, it's

980
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: it's like any like advantage politicals but not. Yeah, I

981
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: mean most religions are that. What are what are the

982
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: what is the outlook on sex and pre marital sex?

983
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: No masturbation you can't even touch yourself masturbation month and

984
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: that's it's National Masturbation Months. So everybody played with oh

985
00:48:54,400 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: by the way dot com. Yeah, I brought emoji batters there. Yeah,

986
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: they're vibrating. Um, I just want you guys. And of

987
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: course she got the one as closest to paint because

988
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: she'd be p hot pussy well, I mean hot pussy virus.

989
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: I got the I got the igglant one because this

990
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: is like purple day, even though mine be paper bag

991
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: brown type. I'll send you some bananas. I should have

992
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: gotten the banana ones. Come on, hello. So so okay,

993
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: So there was masturbation was looked down upon for in

994
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: your religion. I mean sex before marriage, Like if you're

995
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: dating somebody, you have to have a shoperone with you. Um,

996
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, you try to. I was a shoperone for

997
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: a couple for a number of times where I'd have

998
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: to be that I was like a little kid. They

999
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: they bought me video games so I could like chill

1000
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 1: there in the house with them, and these are grown,

1001
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: doesn't it make sure the Yeah? Yeah, no, No, it's serious.

1002
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's like it's no sex before marriage. So

1003
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: for my parents and for a lot of my family,

1004
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: it's like it's a very strict religion. It's it's you know,

1005
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: you don't watch rated our movies or PG thirteen movies

1006
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: really like you're at and then being bisexual not and

1007
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: growing up? How long did you feel guilty? How long

1008
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: did you guilt? I mean I think until I was thirty? WHOA, yeah,

1009
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: I mean to a degree, I lived my life, you know,

1010
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: and once I left I kind of like did my

1011
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: own thing and explored my own stuff. But, um, I

1012
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: have a question. I think it's so I finally I

1013
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: came out right in religion. Um it's actually from Jeeves

1014
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: and he said, what is it like to re examine

1015
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: what you thought was wrong for so long? How do

1016
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: you feel about it now? I sound like some smart people,

1017
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: smart people watch this show. You're not really gonna understand

1018
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: the question, like when do you look at it now?

1019
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: Like do you regret being guilty for so long? Like

1020
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean, do you are you still into religion, like

1021
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: when you think about it now, Like I mean, I

1022
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: still consider myself a Christian. I really do follow two

1023
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: things that Jesus taught, and I really look at what

1024
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: Jesus specifically came here on earth to do, which was

1025
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: to abolish a mosaic law, get rid of all these

1026
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: excessive laws on stuff that wasn't needed. And he gave

1027
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: two principles, Love God, love your neighbor. That's it. And

1028
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: if you do those two things, that's how you get

1029
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: into whatever happens next. So that's how you be a

1030
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: good person. Really, So in loving God, it's taking care

1031
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: of the earth, is taking environment, taking care of the animals,

1032
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: making sure that you're not destroying the earth that He

1033
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: gave you, and appreciating what he gave you, which means

1034
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: exploring the earth, exploring the experiences within this. This is

1035
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: the most woke religious like that, I think religion is

1036
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: a cult that has oppressed um specifically, I like to

1037
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: speak in terms of people of color. After watching Birth

1038
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: of the Nation, it woke me up and I started

1039
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: reading researching and it's true, which is why we can

1040
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: talk about Kanye. But it was talking about broken. You're

1041
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: talking about mental enslavement, and it's just like what religion

1042
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: has done that to people for century? I feel like

1043
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: you couldn't act on those things. Did you worry you

1044
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: ever when you first had sex? Like, did you ever

1045
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: like take showers after? There was there something? Oh god,

1046
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: I still take showers after. There's a very notable episode

1047
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: where Miranda Fox this guy right and then he doesn't

1048
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: have sex watching and she's like, why don't you just

1049
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: lave with me for a second. He's like, no, I

1050
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: talked to this is a sin? Was that? Is that

1051
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: something that you used to do or something you have

1052
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: to do? I mean, it's not something I do. I

1053
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: mean I just like being. It's not a religious thing

1054
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: for me. I just like you. We hope people. We

1055
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: hope to people that because I know we we try

1056
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: not to talk too much about religion. And I've mentioned

1057
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: it before as well, like so I grew up going

1058
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: to missionary every fucking Wednesday. I went to church and

1059
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: she said missionary. I was like, I'll talk about no,

1060
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: but it's so funny because like, well life wheezy um.

1061
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: Once I got into back into school and really started

1062
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: learning more about African American history and seeing that a

1063
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: lot of the slave masters were Christian UM and just

1064
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: seeing the hip the hypocrisy um that followed through um

1065
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: centuries and centuries and hundreds of years UM of how

1066
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: they treat miss mistreated um people of color, and how

1067
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: it really went against everything that was in this Bible

1068
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: that they lived by. I just decided, you know it,

1069
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: I was going to have faith, but not really be

1070
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: a part of a specific religion. And I think when

1071
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: you have to when you look at religions, you have

1072
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: to look at me as businesses that don't pay taxes,

1073
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 1: Like there's people on top where making most of the money,

1074
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: they're getting donations. These are billion dollar companies, um. You know,

1075
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: Scientology is almost ready over a billion dollars in terms

1076
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: of properties and stuff that they own. And I think

1077
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: that's what people fail to see. They don't realize like

1078
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: how powerful these groups are, and you know, they're they're

1079
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: influencing people's decisions in their lives. A lot of times

1080
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: those decisions are impacting lgbt s. A lot of those

1081
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: times those decision affecting people of color, like those those

1082
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: religious beliefs, even though they're based around this positivity and this, this,

1083
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: this goodness. It really isn't following through on what was

1084
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: actually taught, which is why there's so many different versions

1085
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: of Christianity and stuff like that. I mean, I'd be

1086
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: feeling guilty when I'll be praying that he has a

1087
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: big dick. Can I'm not allowed to really pray for

1088
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: big dick? Right, I can't. It depends on which I

1089
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: thank God when they pulled the dick out. God God

1090
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: over dicks all the time. So I want to motherfucker's

1091
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: going to hell. There is no Hell. There's literally no

1092
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: how honestly, Like, if you look in the Bible, the

1093
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: word that they used for hell is actually the Hebrew

1094
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: word for grave, and people change it to hell to

1095
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: convince you to be afraid of a place that doesn't exist.

1096
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: And there's no hell ever talked about in the Bible.

1097
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: It's just a complete change. Yeah, it's it's like, don't

1098
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: be afraid of Hell, you know, and every side. If

1099
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: Hell is real and you can feel pain in the afterlife,

1100
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: then heaven's gonna be cold as fuck. So like you're

1101
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: gonna die either way, damn. But we don't even like

1102
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: the winner here in New York, so that doesn't even

1103
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: sound like fun. No, Heaven, I mean Heaven is definitely

1104
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: l A. Weather Bron definitely feel like l A. I

1105
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: brought up the religion stuff because there was a question, actually,

1106
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, I screenshotted a picture of

1107
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: you tow some very close friends of mine, you and

1108
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: your girlfriend when I read your email, because that should

1109
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: really hurt my soul, and I really want you to

1110
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: help answer this. And it's like perfect time. So this

1111
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: is them very attractive couple. Yeah, oh, you ain't trying

1112
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: to pass you plus go well I can't. He'll find

1113
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: out why. Hello, Mandy and Wheezy. I've recently started listening

1114
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: to your podcast about three months ago. I think it's dope,

1115
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: and I've been learning a lot from you both. I

1116
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: can't put it into action at home because I'm in

1117
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 1: a relationship with a virgin. I'm twenty nine, she's twenty six,

1118
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: and we live together, but we do not have intercourse.

1119
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: Here's the backstory. We've been together for three years and

1120
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: I can't lie. This ship is tough. Don't get me wrong.

1121
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: We've did oral maybe a strong three times in three

1122
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: years in that time frame, and the last time I

1123
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: believe with September of two seen uh l o L.

1124
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: I'm far from a virgin, and I have a lot

1125
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: of sexual experience, but whenever I try to be sexual her,

1126
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm immediately shut down. She tells me, no, we agreed

1127
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: to wait until marriage, but laying next her every night

1128
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: and not being able to wake up and eater pussy

1129
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: really sucks. No, I haven't cheated, I believe, but I

1130
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: find myself having to masturbate two or three times a day.

1131
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: This shild made me so selfisentous. How can I at

1132
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: least get her to make out with me? It's almost

1133
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: like Alice, this is a serious matter, guy, damn it.

1134
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: It's only funny because I can't believe it. I think

1135
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: I laughed like it's a reaction to um. No, I

1136
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: haven't wear sorry. How can I get her to at

1137
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: least make out with me? It's almost like she's too

1138
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: tired to do anything. Granted, she's a speech pathologist, and

1139
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm an accountant in grad school working yes, accounting. Well,

1140
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: if you side no, Mandy, I definitely. I'm just saying

1141
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: I know he would have some money coming two c

1142
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: P A s bitch dropper break up. Whether I'm just like, okay,

1143
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: go ahead, Mandy, I definitely feel your pain and prepping

1144
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: for this exam in parentheses. Now, I'm always busy and

1145
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: I still allocate time for her, but it's like I'm

1146
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: being shut out and maybe she's not attracted to me.

1147
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: What advice do you have for me to at least

1148
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: please her. I think I'm a decent looking guy, but

1149
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand what's going on. Please keep me anonymous.

1150
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: I showed you a picture because I wanted to make

1151
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: sure he was cute, and it was. And so she's beautiful.

1152
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: So she's a virgin because of her religion. So that's

1153
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: how I felt about the waiting until marriage things. So

1154
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: when I screenshotted the email to my friends, all of

1155
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: them wrote me back and said, break up, break up,

1156
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: m Jeeves I said it to said to me that

1157
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: he's like, she's not some smart ship. Go ahead, guys like,

1158
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't think she's gonna when they are married, And

1159
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: I agree, because if you won't make out even and

1160
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: you've already got your pussy eight, it seems like you'd

1161
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: be a little more tempted. You start feeling and feeling

1162
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: it more and getting closer to the edge. I'm sorry,

1163
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to. Well, something else, something else that

1164
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: i've and I don't know if maybe she just hasn't

1165
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: been open to discussing this um she may have experienced

1166
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: sexual trauma, and so there could be something they're keeping

1167
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: her that's not on the table. I mean, I think

1168
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: it sounds sounds like it could have been that, but

1169
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: there could be out bro I know virgins that at

1170
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: least do anal set. He said, how can I get

1171
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: her to make out with me? That ship broke? But honestly,

1172
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: like even within you know, again, growing up in a

1173
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: religion that was very strict, like you weren't allowed to

1174
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: make out either, So like it's very much like that

1175
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: can lead to sex. And I mean, she's waved this long,

1176
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, and I think, like, you know, if he

1177
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: really does care about this person and he really does

1178
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: want to be with her and he's already waited for

1179
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: so long, yeah, I know, just just go to the

1180
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: court and get that done. Like if you don't need

1181
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: to do the reception in the wedding and ship, just

1182
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: like you finish, but we're gonna sign his mom. Yeah,

1183
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, we'll do the wedding later, but you're

1184
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: you're signing this now any affection though, Do you think

1185
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: that she's going to end up doing this at later point?

1186
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Think five people in a

1187
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: group chat said there's no way, three of which used

1188
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: to be at a very religious look. I mean, I

1189
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: think it really it really depends on how much he

1190
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: cares about her and how he wants to make it work.

1191
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: I think she's will be most likely sexual. Like when

1192
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: they get married, I think they're gonna have a lot

1193
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: of issues with their sex lives and figuring out the

1194
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: right balance of things. Um, but it's not It's not

1195
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: rare for people to wait until marriage. I mean there

1196
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: are people out there who do that. Um, yeah, of course,

1197
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean there's I mean, like the amount of people

1198
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: who think money. So I don't really know about that.

1199
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: I've heard that. I haven't a lot of people who

1200
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: have been. But I wasn't sure about the kissing. That's

1201
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: one thing, like if there's no affection going on, which

1202
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: I didn't really think. To your point, you said making

1203
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: out does lead to sect that's true. If you kissed me,

1204
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm a second day. I'm shocked that they're like sleeping

1205
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: in the same bed together. They lived together, Like those

1206
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: are like years, those were like big no notes. So

1207
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, like how she's not doing the other stuff,

1208
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: but she's okay with someone living and being in her bed. Religion. Oh,

1209
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: this is new perspective. I think about. That's some ship though.

1210
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: You can live in this house with and we can

1211
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: be shacked up. When I was dating, when I was

1212
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: dating my wife, like I was married before um and

1213
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: we ended up moving in together before we got married,

1214
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: Like my parents came over and I remember being like, oh, yeah,

1215
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: that's the bed I sleep, and that's the bed she slips.

1216
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: My parents thought I was a version of until the

1217
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: day I was married. Wow, how did you lie that long?

1218
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: You know? All those questions, I'm like, I'm assuming they're

1219
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 1: not talking to me. I read that you you said

1220
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,959
Speaker 1: your parents found out about you owning a sex club

1221
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: through an article. Well, they kind of knew about it,

1222
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: but I think when it became like an article, like

1223
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: in the articles like former job Witness, good, it's more

1224
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: concerned with they knew. It's just like I think when

1225
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: things become public and like more people are talking about it,

1226
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: it makes the religion look bad. Potentially, but I feel

1227
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: like because I'm doing this not being a job witness,

1228
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: it's not the same. But they have to deal with it.

1229
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: Like it's a very close knit group of people. It's

1230
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: like six million people around the world, and they really

1231
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: that's not a lot. There's like conventions and stuff like

1232
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: that where they're constantly so it's like everyone kind of

1233
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: seeing this and now probably coming to them and asking

1234
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: them questions. I think they're more concerned with their lives

1235
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: being in front of everyone and like, oh this like

1236
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: I was a really good job witness, like I was

1237
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: like from you from the Bronx. Um. Yeah, so they're

1238
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: like in the neighbor they live upstate now, Um, but

1239
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: I still have family who are witnesses. Talking about this

1240
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: religion is making me horny. Did you ever get super? Why? What?

1241
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: Just because like you can't fuck is wrong with you?

1242
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: Some fantasy play. You should definitely do fantasy play and

1243
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: like play with the whole being like hyper religious with

1244
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: a guy who's like trying to corrupt you, and like

1245
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: play with that and you have so much fun. So

1246
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: I want to just like everything new. It's the first

1247
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: time you've done this stuff type stuff and membership you know,

1248
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask for a wave. I'm just gonna

1249
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: ask for a straight away in. But here's my question.

1250
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: I want to know about bringing a guest. So, like,

1251
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: let's say that you let me in. Can I bring

1252
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: a guest? How does bring a guest work? Do they

1253
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: have to be a member? To you know? Um, you

1254
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,959
Speaker 1: can bring a guest, and you can bring multiple guests,

1255
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: like some members bring to three or four partners. Like

1256
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: one just requested to bring twelve girls with him. He's ridiculous.

1257
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: It's his name, Anthony. The reason I asked, I was

1258
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: just thinking, while we've been sitting here, we have something

1259
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: called Patreon where we have exclusive episodes for listeners. I

1260
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: kind of want to bring a girlfriend and our guy

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Speaker 1: that I'm I've sucked and I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: our experience and w and like talk about it together

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Speaker 1: on the table, like when we walked in what it

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Speaker 1: was like? Yeah, I think that'd be really would be cool.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of our listeners before we before we go,

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Speaker 1: I want you to let our New York listeners know

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Speaker 1: where they can find more information about the sex club

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Speaker 1: and if you do travel in, what other cities can

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Speaker 1: they expect to see anything UM. So for this year,

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Speaker 1: we're drewing pop up in Miami, probably around our bassle

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Speaker 1: and then we're doing an event in l a UM

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Speaker 1: at some point as well. Are hot And what's the

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Speaker 1: website for our followers to find you? Follow you everywhere? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: dash FW But if you just search on s f W,

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Speaker 1: we're the top search from okkay, okay, that's awesome. So

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Speaker 1: for any of our listeners who are interested in UM

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Speaker 1: trying a sex club out, if you are in New

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Speaker 1: York me and we are going to try to get

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Speaker 1: up in there and give you all some stories. But

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Speaker 1: if you guys beat us there, please let us know,

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Speaker 1: send your stories in UM. Also if you go you know,

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Speaker 1: if you guys don't know, oh, motherfucker ready, we are

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Speaker 1: coming to Atlanta May nineteenth, so we need y'all motherfuckering.

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Speaker 1: They're beat in the motherfucker house. So ya, motherfucker see us.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, if y'all want to suck Alex

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Speaker 1: in some latex now that we know he's into that, no,

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Speaker 1: he's looking for a cup old fantasy, yes, also, but

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Speaker 1: he's going to close his eyes. He said he'd do

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Speaker 1: it for free drinks, guys, So just you know, set

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Speaker 1: that up if you like, I swear that is what

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Speaker 1: how every man not you, Alex? I know, not not

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Speaker 1: talking about you, but is that not the thing though,

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Speaker 1: like it's not gay if like you know, we don't

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Speaker 1: look at each other now, yeah, yeah, that happens. Maybe

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Speaker 1: remember how like a few episodes ago, I said I

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Speaker 1: wanted to one of the listeners and what's happening? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you keep saying that, and guys, that is Wheezy w

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Speaker 1: t L saying that. So stop coming in my d

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Speaker 1: M talking about what you said you wanted to fan.

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Speaker 1: That was not me. That was Wheezy w t F. Motherfuckings.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Also, we haven't responded to you, the

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Speaker 1: guy that was willing to pass four hundred dollars for

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Speaker 1: our dirty panties and socks. I gotta wear panties first. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna send it to you. Just make sure

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Speaker 1: you've got that phoe hundred dollars because I'm about to

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Speaker 1: send you that because anybody if you didn't talk about that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you pay at a certain level. I'll take that phone

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. Go ahead and let me just to get

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Speaker 1: some draws first. But anyways, guys, thank you so cotton.

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Speaker 1: As he did ask for cotton, I think he meant

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Speaker 1: like regular cotton is in the whole way through, not

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Speaker 1: just a part of the I think he asked for

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Speaker 1: that because it soaks up the juice. Well, we can

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Speaker 1: go work out and we're her got cotton panties, but

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get this Phoe hundred dollars, eight hundred dollars,

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Speaker 1: both of us, so she pay for the bitch. But

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Speaker 1: a live show, well that's a good. That's a good.

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Speaker 1: We could play Alex. That'll help you know, that will

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Speaker 1: help Alex. Well, thank you guys so much, UM for

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Speaker 1: tuning in again. If you guys want to check out

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Speaker 1: more UM and read more about the sex club here

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Speaker 1: in New York, check out n S dash FW dot

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Speaker 1: com links in our bio and we're gonna try to

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Speaker 1: feature some clips and tag Daniel as well. UM. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and thank you guys so very much. This has been

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Speaker 1: yet another episode. Oh