WEBVTT - The Fake Crusade for Free Speech 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:06.600 M what's exposing my genitor? Oh no, no, no, I 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.880 gotta stop myself on that one. Sophie's not here, Uh, 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:14.440 Cody and Katie are, And I am ashamed that I 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:17.760 even tried that one. In my defense, we were talking 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:22.200 about chat roulette. We were that the whole context of 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.560 that joke makes it better. We were just talking about 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.160 because then you just let it fly real quick. But 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:29.480 we will not be informing the listeners at the context. 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:32.000 But I will inform them that my co host today 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:38.680 are Katie Stole, Cody Johnson, some news and even more 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:47.040 news news of a network dot com integer. Yeah, we 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.159 were really creative when we thought of these names, and 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.040 yes we are all creative geniuses. Um. Well, if you 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:53.279 have a show and you're like, how to do that, 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.520 but more of it? Humble, humble, creative geniuses, humble, sexy 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:03.760 creative geniuses. Uh sexy of well, sexy, unstoppable, creative, unstoppable, Yeah, powerful, 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.800 you should probably had a second humble in there too. Um. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.240 I mean what we were, what we really are is 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:14.160 is news grifters. But today we're talking about a less 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:20.600 ethical kind of grifter. Free speech grif yes, but free 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:25.120 speech is important. It is. And also this is behind 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:30.000 the bastards, the body in all history. And forget to 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.679 announce things because I'm hanging out with my buds and 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:37.160 not doing my job. We're doing against. Sophie is not here, 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.680 which is why I have a podcasting machetes. Does not 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.360 let me bring my eighteen inch long machete, but I 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:46.679 have it. Let fly with it in your hands. Oh yeah, 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:50.680 you can fly with machetes. You can before you all know, 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.200 he's justesturing with it. And I said, when he said, 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:54.920 oh yeah, you can fly with machetes, he pointed it 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.240 right at me. Well you're a good two three ft away. 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:01.160 It's true. Yeah, like this this paper. Yeah, it's just 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.160 it's gesturing. It's a tool. I wouldn't describe it as 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.520 wildly brandishing your machete. No, no, no, because I have 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:11.000 not started drinking. When I will be drinking is when 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.600 we do our election year podcast, and then I will 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:17.200 be drunkenly gesturing with machete. Perhaps at Sea Pack, maybe definitely, 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.200 it's maybe definitely at Sea Pack. It's going to be 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:25.080 a I got my lanyard. We're gonna phone record at 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.400 all Yeah, yeah you can. We can name the video 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:31.560 masch Saniard. Well, we should probably get into content that 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.919 will be enjoyable for people who aren't the three of us. 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:41.480 If you're not interested in the Machanyard podcast, then okay, okay, um, 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.680 how are you guys doing? I didn't that on this? 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.760 Thank you talking for hours? Alright, yeah, okay, good, good, good, 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.440 We're good. We're well cool. All right, Well, I'm gonna 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.160 I'm gonna get into this and it's not focused around 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:55.440 a person, which is my norm, but it's focused around 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.600 some people, and I think folks will find a bastards beastards. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.679 Over the last few years, particularly since two thousand sixteen, 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.160 the cause of free speech has become one of the 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.440 most vicious and blood soaked battlegrounds in our national culture war. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.200 It's a unique one, too, because while most of America's 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.280 political fuffles revolve around issues like abortion air gun rights, 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.079 where there really is little common ground, free speech is 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:23.160 a thing that everyone, at least in theory, supports. Big Fan, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:27.560 Big Fan, I love speaking freely, Big Fan love shouting freely. 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:34.680 Fran over here with their shouting big Fran BF now uh. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.160 In August third, two eighteen, famous tabloid The New York 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:42.280 Post published an article titled how Liberals turned against free speech. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.840 It opens with this line, why is it considered liberal 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:50.080 to compel others to say or fund things they don't believe? 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.200 That's a question raised by three Supreme Court decisions this year, 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.640 And it's a puzzling development for those of us old 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.720 enough to remember when liberals champion free speech, even advocacy 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.120 of sedition and can servatives wanted government to restrain or limited. 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.000 So that's the that's the opening of the article. And 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.960 the three cases were. Two of them were one California 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.080 case overturning the statute that required anti abortion pregnancy centers 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:15.120 to inform clients of where they could obtain abortions uh 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.599 and the reversal of a forty one year old president 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.760 which stated that public employees didn't have to pay union 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.080 fees to cover the cost of collective bargaining. And the 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.080 third was one of those stupid fucking cases about a 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.520 Christian bakery not wanting to of course for gig people. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.520 Classic at least of all these stories confuse me as 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.440 to how, like that abortion thing, what about that's free speech? 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:37.000 Like not informing That's a great question, that's a great question. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.239 I'm gonna I'm gonna dig into that one specific um, 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:41.960 but I do want to note that the Post article 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:46.320 quotes Neil Ferguson, who argues that liberals are increasingly authoritarian, 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.240 and it ends on this line, like the liberal Supreme 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.760 Court justices who see no constitutional problem with compelling crisis 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.880 pregnancy centers to send messages they find repugnant, or acquiring 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.680 union members to subsidize political speech they disagree with, or 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.679 force and people to participate in ceremonies prohibited by their religion. 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.119 They seem not to have noticed Yale law professor Steven 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.360 Carter's observation that every law is violent because behind every 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.200 exercise of law stands the sheriff. Carter calls for a 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.839 degree of humility in passing and enforcing laws that compel 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.719 speech against conscience. Something today's liberals seem to have forgotten. 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:22.480 Liberals is in quotation, Yeah, I gotta get those square quotes, 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.760 and yeah, so it's easy to see you, I can 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.280 see how someone might be convinced by that line of reasoning. Um, 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.680 Like if if someone believes abortion is wrong and they 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.280 open a clinic to help pregnant women in crisis, it's 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.000 good to help pregnant women in crisis, and people who 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.640 think abortion is wrong shouldn't be required to push people 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.039 towards abortion doctors. That's an argument you could make, and 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.680 it's an argument that if you have exactly that much 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.839 evidence available to you, is there's logic to it on 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:54.040 the surface. Yeah, Now, when you read a little bit 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.520 more into these centers, it becomes easier to see the 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:01.839 authoritarian liberal argument as to why that maybe doesn't include 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.040 all of the relevant facts. I mean a quote from 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.719 a report by the a M, a famed liberal lobbying group. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.799 All of the doctors. Drive down any highway in America 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.599 and you might see a sign pregnant Scared called phone 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.719 number first. Often these signs of advertisements for crisis pregnancy 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:22.800 centers CPCs. CPCs sometimes known as pregnancy resource centers, pregnancy 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.800 care centers, pregnancy support centers, or simply pregnancy centers, or 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.920 organizations that seek to intercept women with unintended or crisis 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:32.360 pregnancies who might be considering abortion. And then a little 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.880 further down it notes CPCs as a rule not only 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.160 discourage abortion, but also refused to provide referrals to abortion clinics, 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.560 although they often provide counseling about dangers associated with premarital 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.400 sexual activity. Women who visit CPCs typically do not realize 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.320 that they are not in an abortion clinic and are 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.039 surprised to find that abortion is not considered an option 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.599 at these centers. As obstetrician gynecologists, we have had several 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.920 disgruntled patients come to us who are disappointed and felt 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.200 deceived by the care that they had received at CPCs. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.159 It's not as it's not I'm not going as simple 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.200 as these do gooders being forced to speak against their will. 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:12.520 It's somebody dressing up a religious mission as a medical exactly. Yeah, yeah, 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:17.280 cool cool. So if you're pregnant and you go there 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.720 and you feel like you're in crisis and you're pregnant, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.760 one of their solutions is to teach about the dangers 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:30.640 of premar Yeah, is that affect. It's It's kind of 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.160 like if you go into the doctor with lung cancer 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.360 after life of smoking, the doctors will say, well, if 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.480 you try not fucking smoking. You know smoking is bad 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.840 for you, you know, but you know those cigarettes aren't 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.240 good for you. Put on this film strip real quick 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.920 about how smoking is bad not doing you know favors. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.160 I love doctors that are helpful. There's a lollipop on 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:53.400 your way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that specific story 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.880 bugs me. Yeah, it's frustrating. That's why that's the one 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.720 I chose to focus on, because it frustrated me too. 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.480 Um So, yes, if you read into a little bit, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.120 it becomes clear that, despite how it was framed by 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:04.640 The New York Post, this is not a pro or 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.120 anti free speech argument. Instead, it's an argument over whether 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.360 or not religious organization should be allowed to masquerade fraudulently 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.520 as medical practitioners and lie about health care options, which 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:22.800 is maybe maybe a little different than see maybe mumb mumble, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.360 mumble mumble. Now, the fight over Christis pregnancy counseling centers 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.040 is emblematic of the broader debate over free speech currently 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.160 consuming our national discourse. Take a serious political issue that 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.920 has nothing to do with the First Amendment, rap it 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.079 in that cloak intard the other side of being anti 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:37.920 free speech, so they have to defend themselves on that 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:39.880 front rather than actually debate you over the harms of 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:45.760 what you're doing. Strategy smart works. It's like if you're 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:50.679 hunting a deer instead of camouflaging yourself. You dress yourself 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.760 up as another deer, but with a gun for a mouth. 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.960 This may not in fact be an analogy. It's perfect. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.360 Then you got to argue with that gun mouth deer 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.679 instead of well, you're clearly you're a hunter and you're 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.800 not a gunmouth, dear. But now I'm I want to 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.400 debate that gunmouth to dear well. And you know that old, 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:12.040 that old, that old chestnut of country wisdom. Nobody ever 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.200 wins a debate with a gunmouth to dear well, you 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:15.880 can't because as soon as he tries to talk a 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:21.240 bullets exactly exactly. That's a good, good argument from the gunmouth, dear. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.520 Thank you for embracing my I still don't think it's 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.440 an analogy of perfect analogy. My perfect analogy deally lost 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.520 the thread, but I'm on, Thank you, Thank you. Also, 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:35.040 just full disclosure. I mix up analogies and similes to metaphors, 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:39.200 all of it. Metaphors. Oh my god, participles dangling. Those 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.840 aren't related at all. No, no they're not, but it 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:48.240 makes me uncomfortable to think about things dangling, particularly participles. Yeah, anyway, 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.280 the free speech grift as it's been coined by some critics, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.960 has risen to become the centerpiece of right wing politics 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.040 because it is so much easier than actually arguing the 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.400 merits of aggressive policies and abortion, racial justice, or anything else. 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.760 It is brilliant strategy because it allows them to co 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:03.840 opt the support of a sizeable number of moderates and 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.760 liberals who are either too dumb to see what's happening 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.479 or who are eager to capitalize on the grift themselves. 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.280 In fact, the origins of our modern free speech grift 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.120 trace back to a two fifteen article in The Atlantic 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:18.480 titled the Coddling of the American Maya. Yeah you like 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:22.760 you know, like that? Yeah, you're almost touching your nipples cotting. Yeah, 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:27.800 I'm very exciting now. The article written by Greg Lukianoff 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.920 and Jonathan Hate. Or the article is written by Greg 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.079 Lukianof and Jonathan Hate, And the thrust of it is 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.959 that political correctness has completely overtaken American campuses, assuring in 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.920 a terrifying new era where art is censored and languages 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:45.440 destroyed to please howling hordes of liberal zombie I so 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:50.040 obsessed with these college campuses. They are big fans of 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.120 college campuses, you know how like college, this is where 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.440 like you learn and like you do some dumb stuff 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.439 and like maybe you make things uh to be more 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.240 than they are, and then you sort of grow out 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.080 of it, and then like you go into the world. 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.880 Yeah maybe you try. Yeah, maybe you put cocaine up 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.880 your butt a couple of times you realize it's not good, 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.400 and then you can go into the world and you 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.320 snort cocaine like an adult. Point is how it's done. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.360 That's how it's done. This is the one problem facing 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.400 America today. That's what I was getting a college. College 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.000 and PC culture and culture. You know, Let's not try 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.240 to be courteous and empathetic to other people. Let's not 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.600 try to listen to other people in their perspectives. It's 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.400 just fuck them because it's it's violence to me. If 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:39.200 you say that kind of made me feel bad. Yeah, 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:43.800 I'm deeply offended that I offended you. I'm gonna quote 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.679 from the article. For example, some students have called for 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.480 warnings that China Chebes Things Fall Apart describes racial violence, 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.840 and that f Scott Fitzgerald's The Great catsbeat or trays 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.000 misogyny and physical abuse, so that students who have been 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.719 previously victimized by racism or domestic violence can choose to 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.400 avoid these works, which did they believe might figger a 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.800 recurrence of past trauma. Some recent campus actions border on 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.040 the surreal. In April, at Brandeis University, the Asian American 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.800 Student Association sought to raise awareness of microaggressions against Asians 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.040 through an installation on the steps of an academic hall. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.199 The installation give examples of microaggressions such as aren't you 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.440 supposed to be good at math? And I'm color blind 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.920 I don't see race, but a backlash arose among other 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.400 Asian American students who felt that the display itself was 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.760 a microaggression. The association removed the installation, and its president 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.080 wrote an email to the entire student body apologizing to 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:30.959 anyone who was triggered or hurt by the content of 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.440 the microaggressions. So that's the that's the that's the what 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.520 they're what they're what they're complaining about, the coddling in 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:43.960 the American mind. Yeah, okay, that, um, that one small story, 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.760 Um has changed my mind about this about this issue. 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.559 Well yeah, yeah, see that that's what they do in 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.880 the articles they pick out a couple of stories where 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:54.679 it's pretty easy, Okay, yeah, that's a group of that's 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:56.360 a group of people may be behaving in a way 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.480 that I would consider a little bit unreasonable or like 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.640 that's or at least the way that it's characterized makes 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.440 it seems like they might be a little unreasonable. But 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:07.280 it's not interestingly enough for logic ration people like the 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:08.920 folks who tend to be on the script. It doesn't 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:13.000 delve much into actual I just tapped my papers on 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:17.120 the table for influence UH statistics to tell us maybe 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:21.960 if this is a I wonder if that information is available. 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.800 It is here. I do have it right here courtesy 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.880 of I didn't do the research myself, being a hack 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.120 and a fraud, but I did find the research done 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.080 by the Nscanon Center, a nonpartisan than tank dedicated to 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:36.760 fostering an open society. They collected data from a number 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.199 of studies on the beliefs of the Eye generation a 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.679 k A. Generation Z a k A the kids who 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.680 are in high school and college currently, and it turns 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.720 out these kids are less likely to strongly favors free 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.840 speech bands than any other age group. So actually kids 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.319 in college right now are the least likely to support 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:59.240 any restrictions on freedom of speech. Quote. A decade of 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.360 data from the Night Foundation on high school students tells 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.760 a similar story. Support for the First Amendment is currently 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.079 at its strongest level yet recorded, with a majority of 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.560 high schoolers fifty percent disagreeing with the statement the First 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.160 Amendment goes too far in the rights it protects. Note 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.040 that there is no change during the years when Eigen 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.560 would be entering high school. And contrary to hates theory 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.080 about the relationship between social media and free speech, the 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.800 Night Foundation survey also found that high schoolers who actively 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.800 engage with news on social media, discussing stories, posting comments, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.360 and leaking to articles consistently demonstrate greater support for free speech, 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:33.200 not less interesting. So maybe taking isolated incidents that are 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.120 sort of like charged with emotion. Yeah, of the thousands 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.720 and thousands of campuses in the country and hundreds of thousands, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.360 and then pinpointing and saying like this is a nation, 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:46.640 this is every college scientific Yeah, maybe it's complete nonsense. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:50.360 Maybe he's intellectually dim, Yeah, maybe just lying. Can we 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.760 say playing on a podcast, I think we can, well, 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:54.760 you can bleep it. We can believe it. You know, 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:56.920 I'm gonna make a bleeping noise by hitting this empty 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.920 Lacroix can with a machette. And we can just we 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:00.600 can put that in a post. It's a good idea. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.400 Don't worry, it's fine. Can Well, we'll post that every good. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.000 It's the best I've ever heard. Thank you. Okay, And 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:08.560 now you've got a place to put your knife. I 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.160 know now, it's not that. It's a nice little machete holder. Yeah, 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.600 I made a little pocket for it. Everything works out. Yeah. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:17.320 I like that about the world now. Uh. The NIS 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:21.120 Canon Center Uh. Summary also notes that in a later 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.880 article Hate and another writer's site that two thousand seventeen 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.440 Night Foundation study that was just quoted above to make 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.160 the same point, noting a rise in the number of 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.680 college students who say the climate on my campus prevents 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.200 some people from saying things they believe because others might 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.480 find them offensive. The rises from two sixteen to six 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.880 in two thousand seventeen. But Hate and his co author 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.000 and neglect to mention that two thousand sixteen in two 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.320 thou seventeen are the only years for which data on 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.160 that question is available, making it essentially meaningless as a 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.920 way to identify a trend. They also insinuate that this 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.400 increase in censorship is driven by liberal and leftist students. However, 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.680 quote this increase is being driven by perceptions of self 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:02.240 censorship among about crats and independence. The number of Republican 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.160 students who reported a cinsorious climate on campus actually dropped 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:15.160 from six. Cool. Uh you love to laugh, you love 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:23.320 intellectual honesty. Yeah, Um, this is uh wholly unsurprising. I 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.640 don't think I've seen this data you referring to. I 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.200 saw a similar report about this, and there's actually quite 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.720 a lot of data. Yeah, um, basically yeah, saying the 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:35.280 same thing that like, uh, the perception is actually the 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.680 opposite of reality. Yeah, and uh and this is like 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.600 you can see this kind of generally throughout history of 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:45.080 like a lot of the left gets censored. People who 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:48.640 actually want society to change in massive fundamental ways often 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:53.520 censored themselves often. Um, and uh, even just like professors, 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:57.640 Like definitely professors get censored a lot more than any 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.560 of these people. And we'll get into that. Oh good, yeah, yeah, Now, 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.160 that nis Cannon study does also note that, according to 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.840 a two seventeen YouGov study, conservative students were more likely 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:11.520 to report censoring themselves in the classroom versus and outside 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:15.240 of it vers But even this data does not tell 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.080 the entire story. A survey conducted by CATO and YouGov 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.880 notes that fifty percent of Americans nationwide reports self censoring 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:25.480 their views among other people. Conservative college students are actually 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:29.280 less likely to report censoring themselves than conservative Americans outside 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.720 of colleges, and liberals on college campuses sinser themselves more 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:40.400 often than liberals in the general population. Um so are 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:47.920 you suggesting that that is the opposite again? Yeah, maybe 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.920 maybe a little bit the opposite. I'm just clarifying. I 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:58.320 I'm just clarifying. Thank you for clarity. Is important? Again, unsurprising? Yeah. So, 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.800 In other words, the entire story of free speech suppression 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.919 on American college campuses is a lie. The reality is 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.439 literally the opposite. In spite of this, right wing groups 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.760 like Turning Point USA, Cody's Favorite, My Favorite, my Favorite 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.080 fellows Yeah, have raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.120 influence political elections on college campuses and crusade against safe 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.359 spaces at their campus clash events. Uh. Their two thousand 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:23.320 nineteen tour include speakers like tp USA founder Charlie Kirk, 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.400 Donald Trump Jr. Candice Owens, and Kyle cash Of who 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.479 recently got his Harvard invitation assented for writing racial slurs 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:34.440 in several text messages to classmates and an open Google doc. Cool. 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:40.480 Are you suggesting that the president's son is being censored? Oh? Yeah, 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.600 that point saying that the president son has a free 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.120 speech problem and the suck to be the president's son 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:51.639 and to be so rich. It's a shame when millionaires 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:58.800 funded by billionaires, Uh, just say lies and someone gets 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:02.320 angry at someone, and that is the death of free speech. 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.600 Someone getting angry at a millionaire being paid by billionaires 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:09.800 to lie. That censorship, That censorship, criticism, oppression, guys, call 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.760 it what it is. I should also note that free 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:15.440 speech bastion tp USA donors include such luminaries as Greg 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:20.040 Ganforte assaulted a Guardian journalist for asking him questions. I 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.840 didn't know Greg was involved with them. Thousands and thousands 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:29.720 of the guy who assaulted a journalist for asking a question. 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.119 You guys want to hear an unrelated quote from Thomas Jefferson. Absolutely, 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.200 we're left to me to decide whether we should have 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.960 a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:41.240 should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. Interesting, 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:49.680 you know, it goes well with those gestures. Products services also, 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.480 but yes, products, Yes, you were right, Katie. I was 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:54.639 so excited to get one right. You did, you got it, 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:56.960 you nailed it. Would you like to throw in a 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:00.800 free ad for something? This is your this is your time. 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.920 I'd like time in here. Well, right now I'm craving 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:05.560 gummy bears, so I'd like to throw in an ad 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.800 for gummy bears. The concept of gummy bears, bouncing, hippie 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:13.840 hopping it all around the forest, fantastic, filled with juicy flavors, 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.239 juicy flavors, gummy bears filled with juicy flavors. I love 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.240 eating candy I find in the forest. Yeah, forest candy 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:22.800 the best kind of candy. But also it's when you 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.120 wanted the most, Like I imagine you hungry in the 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:30.040 forest and you're not sure when you're with some friends 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.520 years back in the Texas in the summer and we 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:34.200 had a big bag of gummy candy and we left 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.320 it outside and it all melted together into one giant, 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:42.280 like four pounds like ball, of so good, beautiful, fucking 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.399 so tasty, all the flavors in one, well, if you 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:50.320 want all the flavors in one by the products advertized, 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:01.240 We're back for a flawless ad pit. Really, thank you, Katie. 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:03.639 Oh you're you know what, You're welcome, You're you're so 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:07.920 much better. You are nailed it. Humbly good, humbly good, 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:11.600 humbly good. Uh yeah, So, Turning Point USA doesn't just 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:14.920 sponsor speeches and debates on college campuses to foster free speech. 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:18.160 They also compile and maintain a professor watch list, which 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:20.399 is definitely a thing that sounds good for free speech. 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.679 As a watch list of professors, yeah. Typical of the 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:27.240 list is the entry for Professor Betsy Stevenson. Quote. Betsy 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.000 Stevenson is an associate professor of economics at the University 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:32.560 of Michigan. Stevenson made the list after making the claim 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:35.080 that the lack of women found in economics textbooks is 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.560 the reason so few women pursue economics as a major. 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.399 In a study she conducted with Hannah's Latnick, she found 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:43.400 that seventy of people found in the leading economics textbooks 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:45.720 were mail. That sounds like a reason to be on 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:57.000 a watch list for her research and speech fire her. Um, yeah, 0:21:55.480 --> 0:22:00.439 this is uh now, maybe it's a watch list of 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.919 good researchers. Stuff that's true. Maybe I should read the 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.520 next paragraph. Maybe you should, Maybe I should. Can't agree 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.200 with you more. When the watch list was originally created 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:14.080 in November of sixteen, t p U SA writer Matt 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.600 Lamb described its purpose thus, Lee, we aimed a post 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.360 professors who have records of targeting students for their viewpoints, 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.960 forcing students to adopt a certain perspective, and or abuse 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:24.760 or harm students in any way for standing up for 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:29.080 their beliefs. Okay, do you want to read your example 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:33.800 again from earlier? Oh my god, Well she's sensitive little 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:38.560 tweets she claimed that women were unrepresented in economics textbooks 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.040