1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast signed Geno Smith to a 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: record setting deal from the Chris Westling Podcast studio. It's 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Around the NFL. I am Dan Hansas and I come 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: to you in the studio, filled with some heroes, Greg Rosenthal, 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, and a very special guest. I believe this 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: is her third time on our program and we're very 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: happy to have her, the great Mina Kimes. What's up, Mina, Hi, 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: I was trying to remember when my last appearance took place. 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: It was definitely pre pandemic. In person, you did do 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: some pandemic shows. I remember you did one with Colleen 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: and Clay Vonn one week, and there's one with the 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: three of us right okay in their monologues. Was a 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: strange person. You made an impression that first time. Speaking 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: of being in person, I have seen Greg, but I 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: haven't seen you two in person. For the listeners who 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: don't have the visual, you guys look tan. You all 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: look like you have been vacationing, like in the Miching 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: Nose or I. I have attempted to put sunscreen on 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: daily and it does not seem to affect affect what's happening. Tan. 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: I didn't say burns, I feel burned a Hollywood hotel pool, 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: uh for like six hours two months ago. And I'm 22 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: continuing my transition to become my father, which is I'm 23 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: working outside and working up a ladder in the sun, 24 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: stupidly not wearing a hat or any they just frankly 25 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: I get those tres. I guess this Irish in me 26 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: coming out anyway? Mina, you know Mina Kimes. I mean 27 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: it's a star and NFL on ESPN. She's all over 28 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: the place, me in a Times show. Uh. And what 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: a treat this is for football fans. Really, let's be honest, 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: the world over to have a single podcast with two 31 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: of the top ten analysts in pro football, well four really, 32 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: according to the London based prestige publication The Guardian. I mean, 33 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: how about that guy? Who is that guy? MINA number 34 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: two insider? Damn righty is Dan Lebottard Mina number two? 35 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: A t N number seven? And you know, not since 36 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: Mena the Stephen Arkel showed up on Full House and 37 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: One has there been a crossover episode with this much juice, 38 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: this much appeal? What's on me? Or you could be that? 39 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Or Stephanie Tanner. I mean it's your choice. Urkle feels 40 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: like the move breakout star. Uh kind of You've become 41 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: bigger than the ESPN NFL operation. You're you're such a star. 42 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: They're like Erkele, overshadowed all the winslows. Yeah, I liked 43 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: is my podcast, Mina Stefan is television for people that 44 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: get those references. Um uh. And by the way, know 45 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: you've been a regular UM visitor on The Dan Lebotard 46 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: Show with Stu Gotts. Do you want to some people 47 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: call me the peacemaker on this show. I smooth things 48 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: over when when necessary, Greg and whatever whoever he's feuding 49 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: with any given month. Um, you heard Stuts there. Of course, 50 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: maybe you should hear it again. But I think it 51 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: deserves in a little context. They were making fun of 52 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: Mark for some reason. I mean, how about that guy? 53 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Who is that guy? He's a top ten football insider. 54 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't think we needed the context. I think it's 55 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: all laid out. But Mina, do you do you want 56 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: to play peacemaker in this scenario? Okay, I don't know 57 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: why he singled you out to be honest out of 58 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: the group. Personally, I want to think it's random, but 59 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: part of me thinks maybe not targeted. Knowing Stucats and 60 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: I know him pretty well, I think it's your name. 61 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: He probably just thoughts sessy or whatever, what do you say, 62 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: and that is that he likes. He just zero it 63 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: in on your name. He saw the nickname potential. You 64 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: guys have names that are not easily marched in the 65 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: same way. I think that's probably that's a generous way 66 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: to look at because there's a lot of people on 67 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: the list. Now. I guess it could have just been 68 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: any of the three of us, but he chose, you know, 69 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: one of us as knife. Greg, We've been down this road. 70 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: But JB. Long when we were at RAMS camp, was 71 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: very complimentary of you, and I feel like that kind 72 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: of made it even Stephen in a lot of ways, 73 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: I think he was attempting to curry favor, um, but 74 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: I he already had my favor so um, you know, 75 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: I appreciated it alright. Another another Rams employee here do 76 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: in the preseason games this year with it with Andrew Whitworth. Yes, 77 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: very exciting. Yes, I wanted to Um. I went to 78 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Rams camp, I want to say a week ago actually 79 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: from today, and Siciliano was there one of the Andrews, 80 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: but Big Andrews trying to refrain from telling them big 81 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: and little Andrew. But Big Andrew, I think it's enormous. Um. 82 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: I want to do a group photo where I like 83 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: cut his head off. I had like a whole humorous 84 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: but he wasn't. He didn't make it that day, so yeah, 85 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: it wasn't able to circle back around on the top. 86 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, so check out also Mina on RAMS preseason telecash. 87 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: He's all over the place. Uh, today's show fun, Greggy. 88 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: You're excited because we're gonna talk some over unders on 89 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: the season. We can do it with a little twist. 90 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: Little pizzas do a draft style, so we're all all 91 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: four of us are gonna take turns picking over unders 92 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: that were comfortable with going one way or the other, obviously, 93 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: and then we'll track these these are things will track 94 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: and circle back to UM later in the season. But 95 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: before that, let us hit the news. I care everybody. 96 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: It's great to see you today, and I like to 97 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: thank Roger Gooddle, Commissioner Gooddle. Roger good What is the 98 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: background there, Well, that is the that's Rob Walton, the 99 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: new Broncos owner, and that is just introduct you know, 100 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: greeting to the fans in the world, and he utterly 101 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: botched the right. He is worth something like three times 102 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: as much as any previous NFL owner. And that wasn't like, oh, 103 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: I'm nervous speaking in front of people and said his 104 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: name wrong. He said it multiple times. He just doesn't 105 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: know the man. He does not know Roger Good. Also, 106 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: let's understand the hierarchy of our league. He's Rocks boss. 107 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: So I remember we had a really bad boss a 108 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: long time ago in the newsroom who's no longer with us. 109 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: He's still on the planet, but I don't know where 110 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: he is anymore. Good luck to him whatever he's doing. Um. 111 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: It was his first day and he was very much, um, 112 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, laying he made He was making clear in 113 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: the newsroom with this energy that he was the boss, 114 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: and he was looking to fire people, and he was 115 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: looking to clean clean up the ship and make it 116 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: his own. And I was like, oh jeez, we were 117 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: very young felloween voice intentionally, and I was like, I 118 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: better go up to this guy and introduce myself. You know, 119 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: play the game, corporal game, you know, So I'd go 120 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: up to him, I say Hi, doing, Uh, nice to 121 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: meet you. I'm Dan and just looks at me and 122 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: he goes, do you have a last name? I was like, 123 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: oh God, this is going to be horrible, and it 124 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: was that invites I think the obvious question, which is 125 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: did Roger Goodell correct him? Because okay, so so someone 126 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: whose name has been mispronounced since the day I, you know, 127 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: entered this earth until recently, maybe until adulthood, when adults 128 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: would say my name, teachers, referees, authority figures were saying 129 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: my name wrong, I would just let it, let it slide. 130 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, my first name both really I got 131 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: some chemas. Mina. Mina is a really common one, straight up, Mina, 132 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: you've got you've not dealt but not. I mean, the 133 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: person saying Minna has not dealt with a lot of 134 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: our language, if that's they're coming out with Nina, even 135 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: though it's right there. But I wouldn't, being the beta 136 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: that I am, would never correct them, correcting him, not 137 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: even privately. That's too embarrassing, I mean to Rob Walton, 138 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: apparently Goodell is just an underlink, so there would be 139 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: hazardous to correct him. Um. Anyway, A new owner enters 140 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: the NFL let's get to the news, starting with bad 141 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: news around my Jets. Why can't the Jets get through 142 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: in August without something awful happening. I don't know what 143 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: that's all about. But McKay Beckton, the former first round 144 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: pick who missed most of last year with the knee injury. 145 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: The hope was he was going to kick over to 146 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: the right side of the line and get things back 147 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: on track. Well that's not gonna happen because he suffered 148 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: a fractured right kneecap during Monday's practice and the injury, 149 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: according to rap Sheet, is one that will likely end 150 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: his season. UM Robert Sala talking about Beckton, who's obviously 151 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: been scrutinized and criticized for work ethic and other issues, 152 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: um Sala came to his defense on with social media. 153 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: In this world, we we um dehumanize these athletes and 154 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: the worst way imagine them. And uh, mackay has walked 155 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: in this building and he has taken every single punch 156 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: you can get from every which way. And he shows 157 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: up and he works his tail off, and he grinds 158 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: every single day he shows up to camp and he's 159 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: fighting to get himself back in shape. He's got videos 160 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: of him vomiting and people are throwing shade, and he's limping, 161 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: and he's doing all those different things. And he's fighting 162 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: the for this, for his family, for himself, for his teammates, 163 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: for this organization, for this fan base, and he's doing everything, 164 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: and then everybody wants to drop him like a wet rag. 165 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: Add ain't the case. There's a lot of frustration mina 166 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: around becked In amongst Jets fans because he was so 167 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: tantalizing when he was on the field as a rookie, 168 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: and now you wonder what the future holds. Salah said 169 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: that we love Mackay. His ride is not over, but 170 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: this is another huge setback, a huge setback for him 171 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: personally and obviously the organization given that he was such 172 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: a high draft pick. But I would venture to say 173 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: for Jets fans, if Dwayne Brown steps in his left 174 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: tackle that that seems to be he seems to be 175 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: the prohibitive favorite. He's there. I don't think it's that 176 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: much of a downgrade for Zack Wilson this year if 177 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: you have Dwayne Brown manning left side. George Fan who 178 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: has been rejuvenated in New York on the right side. 179 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: That's not a bad tackle combo. I see Jets fans 180 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: panicking about this season. Oh, this is gonna setback Zack Wilson, 181 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: and I don't think it's that bad if Brown plays. 182 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: He played at a pretty high level last year and 183 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: it's been good for a long time. They're just getting 184 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: those former Seahawks. I mean, no, their offensive line is 185 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: the strength. The Dwayne Brown thing is a little strange 186 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: to me. Joe Joe Douglas was quoted saying on Tuesday 187 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: that it's like the wheels are in motion. I mean, 188 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,479 Speaker 1: I've never seen a free agent spend like a scrimmage 189 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: on the sidelines before signing and then had like a 190 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: two day sit down. My only guests could be that 191 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown doesn't want to sign until the official training 192 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: camp portion of training camp is over, which is now 193 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: basically it's it's today Wednesday. Training camps are generally any 194 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: around the league, and that he's gonna join the team. 195 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: He just didn't want to like do it too far 196 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: in front of the season. Arouse, none of this really 197 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: makes sense, but yeah, if you have Dwayne Brown, that's 198 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: that's probably about the media and expectation or better of 199 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: what you could have possibly expected, uh from Beckton, except 200 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: he's a lot more reliable. You actually expect him to play. 201 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: I think if you're a Jets fan, because I think 202 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: you're right, get Dwayne Brown signs and he's adequate, you're good. 203 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: But they're reading things like this from the Athletic It 204 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: said after a completion to Denzel Mims, Wilson was sacked 205 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: on four consecutive dropbacks. On a few of them so 206 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: many pass rushers got to Wilson that it would be 207 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: unfair to even credit one player. I just feel it's 208 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: like all the wreckage of August for Jets fans has 209 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: been long, it's been storied, and can get out of 210 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: this with an adequate offensive line. If so, that would 211 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: be a major victory for the Jets. I think the 212 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: Jets could have potentially good offensive one that was a 213 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: bad practice. There's been plenty of positives. It's been much 214 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: better than past August in terms of practice reports. Remember 215 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: the Green and White scrimmage a year or two ago 216 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: when they got shut out by like the second team defense. Like, 217 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: there have been positives, and I think it's like nobody 218 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: remember remember Conic moment, But could you could there are 219 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: stup um. This is for Jets fans that are even 220 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: more optimistic than me, This could be seen as a 221 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: crushing loss because you're imagining the version of Beckton that 222 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: was going to play this year, was the guy that 223 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: flashed in like, oh he was gonna be that guy. 224 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of bad vibes around Beckton 225 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: obviously going into this season and last year. So yes, 226 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm with you mean that this could be something they 227 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: can recover from. But obviously the team seems to have 228 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: come around and appreciate McKay's like effort this over the past. 229 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: What he tells, like he he busted his ask to 230 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: get back into shape to humans to him. Then the 231 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: financial aspect is going to come up quickly on them 232 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: next year because they'll have they won, they'll decline his 233 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: fifth year option. And it might partly be because their 234 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: defensive line is so good. That's the number one reason 235 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm you know, excited about the Jets is like they're 236 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: so deep up front. Maybe that's why they're crushing the 237 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: Are they going to be in the over under draft? 238 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: Do you have them? No? I don't. I I don't 239 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: feel that strongly. The Jets I'm just saying, like when 240 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: I saw like Jacob Martin is like their seventh defensive line, Like, dang, 241 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: they're pretty deep. In other news, I Fell Networks rap 242 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: Sheet reports Bears linebacker ro Kuan Smith has requested a trade. 243 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: We all know uh Mark Smith's ability and the fact 244 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: that the Bears are rebuilding. You would want a twenty 245 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: five year old to be part of the rebuilding process. 246 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: But there's some bad blood and it goes back to 247 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: some negotiations that he feels haven't been done in good faith. Well, 248 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: he's his own agent, and I think part of that 249 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: would be, you know, the Bears and obviously a new regime. 250 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: They they want. Ryan Poles says, we want to keep them. 251 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: They did make an offer. I think you're looking at 252 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: somewhere between Shack Leonard and Fred Warner on where like 253 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: this contract would go. And I wonder if you're your 254 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: own agent, that you know you're hearing stuff that your 255 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: agent would protect you from. Like we we do value you, 256 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: but there are aspects of your game and are and 257 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do with our defense and with with 258 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: Fred Warner and Shack Leonard, those were existing regimes that 259 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: knew what those players were and knew that what they 260 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: would do in their scheme. I think with ro Kwan 261 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: Smith it's gotten a little rocky because this is a 262 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: team in a rebuild that can't really project what Rokuan 263 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: Smith will be exactly in the in the new defense. 264 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it's because I had to do ten shows about 265 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: where Debot would go, But I just don't want to 266 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: play this believing a trade request, especially when I do 267 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: think the team is going to try to keep him. 268 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: Uh for a few reasons, Robert Quinn makes sense for 269 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: this team to trade because I do think they could 270 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: get something pretty sizeable back from him. They're obviously not 271 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: a contender. He's thirty two years old. Roquan Smith, I 272 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: don't think they would get a huge return um. Some 273 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: of that's just positional value to me and destinations. And 274 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: you've got a defensive head coach who's coming from Indianapolis, 275 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: where the star of his defense was a will linebacker 276 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard. I have to think he's coming in he 277 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: sees Roquan Smith, who is the best player on this 278 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: defense outside of Quinn, as the centerpiece. It just doesn't 279 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: seem like Ebrew Flus. Obviously he's not making a shot 280 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: calling the shots here, But I just don't really think 281 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: he'd want to move on from this particular player. I 282 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: saw some analysis and I think it was Sam Monson. 283 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: Although sometimes the PFF guys blended together. I apologize, just like, well, 284 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: here's they all have in the in the Twitter name. 285 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: So you're like out picking up your daughter at beach 286 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: camp or whatever, and you just see a tweet. It's 287 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: just like to each other. But the idea was, like, 288 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: it makes sense that they're not going to extend too 289 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: far to sign Roquan Smith. He's an off ball winebacker, 290 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: and like by the time, uh, they're actually good, Like 291 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: that's not a position that you pay a lot of 292 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: money for. And I totally disagree, just because I think 293 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: it's it's much harder, as the Bears have shown, to 294 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: find players that are worth spending on than it really 295 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: is to work around the salary cap. And they have 296 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: virtually no players to spend big money on, and this 297 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: is one of them. Like the point is to keep 298 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: your good players. Don't they have like five million dollars 299 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: in cap space next year, They're they're they are set 300 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: up to make a lot of moves, but were like 301 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: a sneaky, cheap, big market team that ultimately they don't 302 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: spend as much money as they possibly could, especially this year. 303 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: We mentioned Shaquille Leonard par Yeah, it's like the Washington 304 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: football team tax initially Los Angeles charges you get a little. 305 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: I think there has to be like an acceptance that 306 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: it's going to take people time. It's like when you 307 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: were young in the in the year you have to 308 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: put your date on your schoolwork every day and in 309 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: the year would flip and it would take me to 310 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: like January to figure out what was going on with 311 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: the year. I also think Washington football team is fine 312 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: to just keep like you can just keep saying that 313 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: people get it. Yeah, you don't need it, you don't 314 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: need to. Uh So we mentioned Shaquille Leonard. He had 315 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: the back surgery and you know, the hope was he's 316 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: gonna be ready to go, but he still doesn't have 317 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: a timetable and people should know that follow our league. 318 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: It's August tenth. It's my wife's birthday. Happy birthday, Emily, 319 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Emily. I'm gonna pick up some prosecco and 320 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: some nice cheese. I've been told not to. I've been 321 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: told not to talk about your wife so well respectfully, 322 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: just it isn't normally that creepy. That was a call 323 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: back to a time before when he was creepy. Notice 324 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 1: how I said my wife's name, Emily, and then when 325 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: you brought up your girlfriend's name it was Jess and 326 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: I freaked everybody. I continue to think this is being 327 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: over exaggerated anyway. We are getting to the point. I mean, 328 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: it's like can I call a cabin or getting to 329 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: the point on the callender where these injuries you're getting 330 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: closer to week one. So with the fact that Derek 331 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: Shaquille Leonard doesn't have a timetable mina, that's not great 332 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: for the colts who really need him in the middle 333 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: of their defense. Yeah, this injury freaks me out a 334 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: little bit. Um and you know back generally, but then 335 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: when you hear them the back might be connected to 336 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: the think. I hope I'm not misrepresenting. I'm most definitely 337 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: misrepresenting the actual medical nature of what's going on. But 338 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: it is one of those injuries when you read every report, 339 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: it does make you a little nervous, just because it 340 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: doesn't seem as clear cut as maybe some others. Um 341 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: and then of course, yeah where we are in the season, 342 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: I would be worried. Um. I like this Colts defense 343 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: a lot. I think the front could be really exciting. 344 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: It's Broadley, we know what he wants to do. But 345 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: if you take out Leonard, even though you know they've 346 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: got a blow that their decent linebackers there, it loses 347 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the sizzle for me. Right. Plus, like 348 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: exciting might not be the word that like fans of 349 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: the last few Gus Bradley teams would would use to 350 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: describe his defenses. They struggled and so you know at 351 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: Matt Abraflus gets gets a job elsewhere. And the wording 352 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: around this it was our cam Wolfe, who I believe 353 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: it's been a guest on the Mean Time Show featuring 354 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: Lenny As it was our cam wolf I think that 355 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: sort of broke this, that that the wording around Darius 356 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: Leonard is at some point during the season it doesn't 357 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: allow to me the like and and this is going 358 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: back to the surgery reading between the tea leaves like 359 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: he's pretty likely I think, to start on pup and 360 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: that there's certainly no guarantee that he's even coming off pup. 361 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: After four games when he's first allowed. So Gus Bradley defense, 362 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: which is the defense works if you have stars, right, 363 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: and they do have stars on this team. You've got 364 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore now back you know the Rocky scene left. 365 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: They they say it's and like dominating in practice, and 366 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, you think of him as being more of 367 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: a man corner, but this is obviously going to be 368 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: a primarily cover three. But you do he has both. 369 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: I think you do need like a shutdown corner h 370 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: and then you need that four man rush. They do 371 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: have a foe man rush. They've got Deforce Buckinger on 372 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: this side, who's better than any interior defender the Raiders had. 373 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: And then ideally you'd have okay, well who's the Bobby Wagner. 374 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: That's Leonard. But if you take out any of those stars, 375 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: the defense doesn't really protect its players, and it suddenly 376 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: starts to fall apart, which is what we've seen in 377 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 1: his recent stops and the Seahawks fan and Mina kind 378 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: of comes out like he's just kind of standing This 379 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: is the only defense. No, I'm not standing up for. 380 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: This is the only defense in the NFL left that 381 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: plays this way, right, None none all of the former 382 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll disciples Lundi Pete Carroll himself has embraced a 383 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: fangio style defense in Seattle this year. Gus Probley is 384 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: the last. So so who gets whispers Jess vic Faggio 385 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 1: and our producer's girlfriend letter the latter one. Right now, 386 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: he's gotta be like, he's gotta be grumbling. This can't 387 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: be happy. Good news for both Mark Sessler and Packers 388 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: quarterback Aaron Rodgers, whose use of the UH drink ayahuasca, 389 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: which is hallucinogenic from the Earth during an offseason retreat, 390 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: is not considered a violation of the NFL's drug policy. 391 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: Rogers talked about it on the Aubrey Marcus podcast. He 392 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: went to Peru maybe with Mark, maybe not? Why is 393 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: this good news for me? And he won the MVP 394 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: before that season and then won and again after that 395 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: And according to this right up on ESPN, ayahuasca is 396 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: defined as a and market telling you this, but as 397 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: a psychoactive beverage native to South America and is often 398 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: used for religious, ritualistic, or medicinal purposes. So Mark, this 399 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: is this is excellent, excellent news for the Packers and 400 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: the VP and of course for you and your continued 401 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: employment here, I'll accept it. I mean it's from the Earth. 402 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: I don't think it should be on a band list. Um, 403 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: he's not taking it during you know, game preparation or 404 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: game weeks. It seems to be when he's off on 405 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: his own in Peru, and that's self exploration or or 406 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: in a hotel. He said it was the best day 407 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: of his life, better than winning the Super Bowl. Have 408 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: you ever if you've ever taken mushrooms, I will just 409 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: say this, this goes back many, many years. Um, you 410 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: are put into a different reality. And I can totally 411 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: understand from the Earth, also from the Earth, and I 412 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: can see why he would call an experience like that 413 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: the most mind blowing experience. He sayth when he opened 414 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: his eyes, it felt like opening his It was a 415 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: wild interview. And then the host it was a guy 416 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: named Brandon Marcus. I had to listen to this because 417 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: I don't know it just it sounded so he said 418 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: it from the Aubrey Marcus podcast. Okay, I guess that's 419 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: a guy with a beard and Brandon a former producer station. Yeah, 420 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: all right. He said it felt like having a hundred 421 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: hands all touching you at the same time. And I 422 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: wasn't sure if he meant like literally there were fifty 423 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: people there because he said it was a big group thing, 424 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: but it felt like a hundred hands on you all 425 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: at once, and it felt like pure love. Yeah. That 426 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: I was never that dude like in college. Uh. And 427 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: I got scared off when a buddy of mine told 428 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: me that he went down this road of you know, 429 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: natural products from the earth and uh. He said that 430 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 1: Jay Leno on TV was the devil talking to him 431 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: was like a right, that was. The host answered his 432 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: story by saying that when he took ayahuasca, he like 433 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: imagined every different way to die possible, most of which 434 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: like included bugs, like um trying to convince a group 435 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: of us in a farmhouse when this occurred that his 436 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: father Um invented two objects, one TV guide which was 437 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: not true, and two would but he made a convincing 438 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: case for an amount of time. I feel like we 439 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: were talking try. I had a beautiful two or three 440 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: weeks kind of taking on and off for like twenty 441 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: years ago, and it was it was great, Mina, your 442 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: turn me just like I'm literally the biggest star in 443 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: NFL media I gotta get at here. Let's take a 444 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: quick break, finish the news, and then get to everything else. 445 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back? What is Where is the Mina 446 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: Fame meter? Apt By the way, I know this might 447 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: make you uncomfortable, but I'm just curious to here with 448 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: us two years since we last saw you all together here, 449 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: Like if you go to Chipotle or something or people like, hey, Mina, 450 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: do you get that a lot here in l A? 451 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: Sports bars? Definitely sports bars. You're probably on one of 452 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: the television's at the sports bar two. Half the time, 453 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: I would say airport sports bars two is probably that's 454 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: the Airport Sports Bar in the middle of that of 455 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: that ven diagram, and you know, the Airport sports bar. 456 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: Just I can't handle that pretty low though I know 457 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: I had trouble getting in here. That that's true. We did, 458 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: I didn't we not know the security procedure here with 459 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: don't you know who I am? You're the first outside 460 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: the building guest we've had. So maybe this is a 461 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: little bit connect to what I said about my name, 462 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: my meek obedience in any situation where I'm confronted with 463 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: a barrier, Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I probably 464 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't be here. You know, we have a similar sort 465 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: of fame, but it's just only directly outside of a 466 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: London football game stadium and basically the Beatles, Hard Days 467 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: night and all right, finally in the news, Yes, the 468 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks training camp with the Detroit Lions season premiere 469 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: was Tuesday night. Of course, you know the listeners that 470 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf and I launched a new podcast which you 471 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: could check out in this very feed. Um. So, I 472 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: don't want to um say anything else about it because 473 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: I've said enough, but I'm curious if you guys watched 474 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: and if you had any takeaways. Let's play a little 475 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: bit from our friend and Campbell from the premier. The 476 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: last thing then to say is this, there is no 477 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: light at the end of the tunnel. There is no light. 478 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: There's a song Metallica has no Leaf Clover and it says, man, 479 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to the soothing light at the end 480 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: of your tunnel, it's just a freight train coming your way. 481 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: Have you seen a light. It's a freight train. Just 482 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: put your head down and go to work. It's about 483 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: to be fun, man, It's about to be fun. Wait, 484 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be fun. There's freight train. What 485 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: does that mean? I love the when they were showing 486 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: the crowd there, the lions, you know players there because 487 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: there were a couple that looked like they were ready 488 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: to run through a wall their eyes were so big. 489 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: But there was another couple because this is the you 490 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: know humanity, just that kind of looks looks like I 491 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: feel like I would have looked at that scenario, is 492 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: like confused. That was like, wait a second, does that 493 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: mean we're all gonna die? Like? What is that? What 494 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: does this analogy mean? I uh, I like somewhere totally 495 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: locked in and somewhere kind of like I'm not a 496 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: scholar in the Metallica realm. But that's a lot of 497 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: James Headfield's lyrics or it's not the most optimistic way 498 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: to look at things, and that's real. Yeah, it's fair. 499 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm wondering what he was actually trying to say that 500 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: I've been like real hot and cold on hard knocks, 501 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: depending on the team, the personality of the team. This 502 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: is the one UM based off the first episode that 503 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: appeals to me more than any other of its previous iterations, 504 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: and it has to do for me with UM, I 505 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: think the characters in this on this team are fueled 506 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: by language. Dan Campbell like he feels to me like 507 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: um a beat poet on the mind altering drugs that 508 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: we discuss, who completely loses his way verbally but then 509 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: comes back and finds his way, and the crowd responds 510 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: and it's like you're rooting for him. And I love 511 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: the way he speaks. And Jamal Williams um I just 512 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: feel his heart beating out of his chest the way 513 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: he speaks to the team, and they just seem unified 514 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: and and real to me. And I know that we 515 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: were on that Detroit Lions, you know, a couple of 516 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: summers ago, and that train went right off the tracks. 517 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm kind of back on. I don't really care what 518 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: the result is, win loss wise. This is kind of 519 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: why I became a football fan way back when when 520 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: you you didn't know as much about the personalities back then, 521 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: but they were dynamic. You are a free agent. That's 522 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: a stretch. I'm just saying, I'm enjoying watching them. I'm 523 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: enjoying the expensive stretch to pick up the Lions is 524 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: my next year. And free agent. You be free agent 525 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: from who's been trying to court you the hardest. No one. Weirdly, 526 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: this hasn't come up not it's literally literally know but 527 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: he's divorced from the Browns, but sort of, no one 528 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: totally believe it. So we haven't even thought about the 529 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: idea of you rooting for another team. Pick up the Chargers. 530 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: They would let you, like walk whatever you want there. 531 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: They'd probably give you a jersey with your name live 532 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: here justin I don't want to jersey with another man's 533 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: name on it. So I would ask if it could 534 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: be me to the top ten Chargers super fans. You 535 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: would not. I'm not trying to disk the Chargers. We 536 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: know the score, but like they're looking for that type 537 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: of brace you. They're looking for that, right Mark. You 538 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: gotta come on the bench with Banetta podcast and pick 539 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: a favorite team with Rachel. I think that because she's 540 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: also going through this right now, so the same team 541 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: not the same team. But you guys can just like 542 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: discuss these discussion. Let's try that like next week or 543 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: something that'll be fun. I think this Hard Knocks has 544 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: the thing you allude to that makes the good Hard 545 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: Knocks good, which is the charismatic coaches, not just Campbell, 546 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, do I mean this coaching staff is just silly? 547 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: Do you Staleley just overflowing with charisma? You think back 548 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: to what I think is the best hard knocks the 549 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: Jets Rex Ryan hard knocks were Darrell Rivas held out 550 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan cart Rex Ryan carried that hard knocks the 551 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: Browns one for a few years ago with um that one. 552 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: Jackson No a coach who like captured American Yes, who 553 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: would jiggle his stomach comically. Also Greg Williams. So it's 554 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: like you had a super villain right saying wild stuff, 555 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: I think, And then I will just say I was 556 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: I got a little chills when Aidan Hutchinson was got 557 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: the whole team singing. I thought that, you know, I mean, 558 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: I felt myself being manipulated emotionally. I'm like, don't don't 559 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: say this means Aidan Hutchinson is a leader. But then 560 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: I looked at my arm. The goose bugs were there, 561 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: just saying he might have the factor. That's what this 562 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: team does. Um. By the way, you're pod, I listened 563 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: to this morning like everyone should. It was excellent. Well, 564 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: you and Colleen had great chemistry, but it was a thorough, 565 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: thorough recap and Uh, I thought you did an A 566 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: plus job. We had a lot of fun. We're using 567 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: a vector voting system for choosing the m v P 568 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: based on how MLB chooses their m v P. As 569 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, Greg, the A P n f L m 570 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: v P, it's just fifty guys get one vote each 571 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: bright Way and that is lane. But vector voting assigns 572 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: like a weighted scoring system. So we're doing a first, second, 573 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: and third place vote for each episode, and then Graver 574 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: will be tabulating and then we'll have a Hard Knocks 575 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: m v P that just locked in load. I'm so 576 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: excited about naming the m v P. I didn't notice that. 577 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: During the course of the first episode, Grave Digger what 578 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: received about twenty five additional jobs to actually producing the show, 579 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: including getting you Detroit pizza. Um, but a lot of 580 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: math because it's like you, Calleen and Dan are not 581 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: into the math side of things. Yeah, he's already got 582 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: some merge, so we're already out to a great start. 583 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: All right, that's enough. And by the way, lots of 584 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: NFL UK around the NFL fans asking when can they 585 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: see Hard Knocks. Uh, it's on NFL game Pass on Fridays. 586 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: So there you go. So if you want to set 587 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: aside the Hard Knocks podcast until you could watch it, 588 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: totally makes sense to me. It's an evergreen product. There 589 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: you all right, let's get to it. Let's see, I 590 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: got on my notes here, I had the plug there, 591 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: the UK note break, I had Mina fame, I checked 592 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: in on that, and now let's get to over unders 593 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: on the season. Um, Greg, do you want to set 594 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: the table on this one? Because I know this is 595 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: near and dear to your heart the ayahuasca uh for 596 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: Greg's heart is over unders and gambling in Jim, well, 597 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: that's not true. We're not allowed to under league policy, 598 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: but we are going to take a look. I believe 599 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 1: our trustee friend Shawn Kelly printed out some over unders 600 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: from draft kings, and we're just gonna pick in a 601 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: draft style and justin I don't know if you've ran 602 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: do a way to like randomize the draft order for 603 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: us on we we we haven't really spoken about this, um, 604 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: but the idea would be that we all draft, not 605 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: in a snake draft, just like an NFL draft. You 606 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: say order the whole time, and we take the over 607 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: unders that we feel the most strong about so when 608 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: we'll keep track of this. So if if for some 609 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: reason you think, let's say I'm trying to think of 610 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: one that no one's gonna take, but like that that 611 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: the Bills over eleven and a half is like your 612 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: number one pick of the year, and that would be 613 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: your first draft pick, and we'll we'll track this during 614 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: the season. So draft order is very important here. UM, 615 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: I would think, uh, if we have three, if we 616 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: all agree, let's trying to like at least three each 617 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: and see where we are time wise? Has to do 618 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: after this? What do we win? What does the winner win? 619 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: Materically you just the respect of your peers in the audience? 620 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: Why does everything have to have? I feel like hopefully 621 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: already have those things. But if can I come back 622 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: if I win? Yeah, there is you can come back. Actually, 623 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: if maybe you were to lose, we would definitely sire. 624 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: Who does keep track of Go get my Lunch, which 625 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: is our our annual season um Predictions could add this 626 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: to go get my Lunch dot org. Yeah, a new tab. 627 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: We're just giving everyone work to do, not doing a 628 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: damn thing ourselves. Yeah, you do get a free lunch 629 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 1: here at the NFL huddle and a lunch of the hood, 630 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: as we all do. I thought I was going to 631 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: get anyway, Yeah, come back again. You can come back 632 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: any time you're in the Inglewood area. I was at 633 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: a long time ago when I worked at MLB dot com. 634 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: There was a Christmas party with an open bar and 635 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: uh former Yankees catcher Jim Layer it's worked at the time, 636 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: uh with the company. And I was at the bar 637 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: and Jim Jimmy Layers was next to me, and there 638 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: was some like attractive women to his right, and he 639 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: literally turned to them and said, hey, can I buy 640 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: you a drink? And and the girls like it's an 641 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: open bar, and then it's just walked away. Still hit 642 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: that hanging slider from Mark Bohlers though. All right, let's 643 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: get into it, Uh, Graver, do you want to do 644 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: the automized draft. I'm sure there's a website or something 645 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: you're working off here. Yea, let's generate a random list. Here, 646 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 1: here we go. Supposed we could have just been nice 647 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: and letter. I think I thought about that. Maybe we 648 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: would have missed that sound effect. We have a list, Okay, 649 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: Greg Mina, Mark Dan it does. I don't get a 650 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: snake either. No, No, you know it. I said that, 651 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it matters unless we all are agreen 652 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: and it doesn't want to trade draft picks if it 653 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: means that much, bigger man. No, there was no way 654 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: we were getting out of that exercise without controversy. Okay, um, first, 655 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: if I'm first, then this is one I do think 656 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: other people would have taken. At some point. I'm going 657 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: Bears under six and a half as the very first 658 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: pick off the board. Uh, six and a half. That's 659 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: more than a handful of teams out there. The Seahawks 660 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: are at five and a half, Jets at five and 661 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: a half, Falcons at five, Texans at four and a half. 662 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: It's one of my truisms that it's really not that 663 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: hard to win six or seven games in the NFL. 664 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,479 Speaker 1: You can kind of stumble into it. And the Bears 665 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: have a pretty hell The Falcons one seven soft schedule 666 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: out of the division, and that's part of the reason 667 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: they're Some of their underlying analytics are Okay, I don't care. 668 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: They're They're starting left tackle is Braxton Jones. We we 669 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: talked a lot about their wide receiver group that a 670 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: few days ago, that they're running out in the Simbowebster, 671 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: Chris Finkey and Isaiah Coulter. But that's not going to 672 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 1: be the group in this season. I believe in justin fields. 673 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: I believe a good outcome for this team would be 674 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: five wins. I just look at Matt Eberflus flu as 675 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: Colleen let us know he's called, and I don't see 676 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: like a great track record of dominating success. I always 677 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: look for that in my head coaches, like are you 678 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: bringing something tangible to the table, like tangible schematic success? 679 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know if I have that in Matt Eberflus. 680 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: He has been like a totally good defensive coordinator, but 681 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: not one that like stuck out to me as one 682 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: of the five bescent league. And then you look at 683 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: the roster and beyond the defensive line with Quinn who 684 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: may or may not be on the team, or beyond 685 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: Quinn on the defensive line, it gets really thin, really fast. 686 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: They're excited about the secondary, but they're excited about second 687 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: round rookie picks like Jakwan Brisker and Kyler Gordon being 688 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: a huge part of that secondary. I just look up 689 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: and down and there isn't one part of this team 690 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: that you can feel confident is better than average, and 691 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 1: so to me, I think they have a better chance 692 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: of being in the mix for the number one over 693 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: I'll pick them they do of going over six and 694 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: a half. You'll notice on this list no one is 695 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: below four and a half, and they're almost always you know, 696 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 1: there's a one to three four lost teams, but so 697 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: they're here. There's some real teams. They're gonna drop bombs 698 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: this season, and I think the Bears are safe. Bet. 699 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: How about you? I mean a number two, we're all 700 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: pick that was so negative that I feel like I 701 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 1: have to do an overnight. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna 702 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: go with the Saints at a UM, I figured Gregor 703 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: what they did to the Saints insulting, and you're going 704 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: Saints over over over to be clear. Yeah, um, here's 705 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: the thing. You get to play. The Bucks are partly 706 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: the Falcons and the Panthers a couple of times there. Uh, 707 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: this defense is still I think one of the five 708 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: best defenses in the NFL. Is getting a little bit older. 709 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: You are counting on some younger contributors, but the core 710 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: is still in place. And then offensively, you know, for 711 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: my own podcast. We do these division previews, and I 712 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: took some time to rewatch Jamis Winston starts from last year. 713 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: I was higher on him after rewatching them. You know, 714 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: at the time, I said, it's pretty conservative. You look 715 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: at some of the deep passing metrics, they're not that great. 716 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: I was looking at the end of the season before 717 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: I went back and watched. But when I went back 718 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: and watched, I thought he looked extremely sound. Fundamentally, I 719 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: thought the wide receivers were much worse than I remember. 720 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: There were some pretty significant drops. And now you're bringing 721 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: in Michael Thomas returning. I think people have forgotten. How 722 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: could he is Chris olav who's apparently lighting up training camp. UM. 723 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: The offensive line is obviously a bit of a concern 724 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: with UM perpetual fight starter Trevor Penning on left side. 725 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: Don't love that. But otherwise I think, UM, these are 726 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: so good. It seems like Alvin Kamara's suspension might be 727 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: delayed as well. At the at the very least he's 728 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: safe for them beginning of the season, so that doesn't 729 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: really affect the horrender or whatever. But UM, I think 730 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: this offense, you know, obviously, the loss of Sean Payne 731 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: is enormous, and we'll see what Pete Karma who pet 732 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: karmicly is? I guess um? But okay, in that in 733 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: that Sean Payton season he was suspended, also did not 734 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: want the did great actions, seemed to shy away from 735 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: more responsibility of this off seas until they kind of 736 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: made him stay as the play car. We're going to 737 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: see a blood of him on the sidelines, a lot 738 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: of shots of him watching Jameis Winston. Um. This obvience 739 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: was disgusting last year without Winston. I don't know. I 740 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: just think the combination of an elite defense, I do 741 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: believe they're elite with an improved offense. That's that's better 742 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: than eat it should be. I was trying to figure 743 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: this one out. It's a little confusing, and I think 744 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: it was the odd of division schedule for that division 745 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: is challenging that they play the a f C West 746 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: and they play the NFC West because because the the 747 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: out of division schedules determined a lot of these numbers. 748 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: But even then, they were on my list of teams 749 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: I wanted to throw out there as over over over again. 750 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: But Sean Payton's not there and Jamis Winston's the quarterback. 751 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: There's reason to doubt is not unfair around this team 752 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: all now. But they won nine last year, and they 753 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: won twelve the year before. I know that was with 754 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, but that was like an older Drew Brees. 755 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: And and most they have pretty good continuity. I mean, 756 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: that's the thing. They've They've ticked the can down the 757 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: road financially, and they have good continent. There's something about 758 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: the Saints just the way they're bill, the way they operate. 759 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned the rest of the NFC South. 760 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: They swept the Bucks last year too. They don't seem 761 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: to have fear what's going on in Tampa Bay and 762 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: I you know Tampa Bay after getting weird vibes from 763 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: right now. So I just say, I look at eight 764 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: wins and I'm saying, like that's disrespect kind of in 765 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: on that we don't meet off from. They don't get credit. 766 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,479 Speaker 1: I thought you were next though, No, um, this made 767 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: this made people may not like this, But I am 768 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: banging the Houston Texans for a four point five over. 769 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean I and it's I don't need to dig 770 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: deep into the roster because it's like I don't think 771 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: it's a talented team necessarily, but I don't. I think 772 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: Davis mills um they stuck with him for a reason. 773 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: I like that. I think guys like Nico Collins is 774 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: going to make a big step up at wide receiver. 775 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: They were absolutely bereft of talent last year, and it's 776 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: not that they have so much more. But if you 777 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: look at what they did down the stretch, they were 778 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: They were a ghastly show for like the early part 779 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: of the season. Then down the wretch they beat the Titans, 780 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: they came within three points of beating them again. They 781 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: almost swept the Titans. They scored forty one points to 782 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: beat the Chargers and knocked off the Jaguars. I'm just 783 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: saying they improved, and I think that Lovey Smith is 784 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: going to bring a steadying influence there. They won four 785 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: games a year ago. This thing is saying they're all 786 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: gonna win four point five. I'm going over and I'm 787 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: very confident about it. I like that. I feel like 788 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: they're a team that's kind of sold out to win 789 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: seven games, and they totally could by just like adding 790 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of middle tier NFL players that can play football, 791 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: like maliek Collins or they they added like Mario Addison 792 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: and Jerry Hughes. They just like imported the Bills old 793 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: pass rest. They're kind of not a young team. I 794 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: remember that really caught my eye on football outsiders like 795 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: they have who are the oldest teams and youngest. They're 796 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 1: one of the older teams in the league. So they 797 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: actually have some promising rookies. We'll see if that works out. 798 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: Damian Pierce we mentioned the other day, sounds good, uh 799 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: at running back. They might have some fun young players, 800 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: but they like feel like they'll they are the the 801 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 1: like it's not that hard to win six games in 802 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: the NFL team for me this year, the great hype 803 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: around Nico Collins loved this quote from Davis Mills. I 804 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: don't think there's many people out there who can stop him. 805 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: He's apparently had an awesome offseason. Hello, hello, my turn. 806 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: It's a little aggressive, it is, but you know we're 807 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 1: drinking the cool there's some more. How about Texans as 808 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: your first pick? That's that's pretty bold. I wanted them. 809 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: Actually they have a twenty nine the hardest schedule in football, 810 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: hardest schedule nine son with all right, we're bad. This 811 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: is something we kind of hit on a little bit 812 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. I'm gonna hit it on 813 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: it again. I'm banging the over on the Patriots at 814 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: eight and a half. Wow. I know there's a lot 815 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: of doom and gloom around the Patriots these days because 816 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: they're installing a new offense and this general idea you 817 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: that Matt Patricia is, um, I'm gonna bring it back 818 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: an income poop, and you know he's gonna botch this thing. 819 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: And Joe Judge is involved, and I think a lot 820 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: of people are having fun with all this, and again 821 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: missing the central part of all this is that Bill 822 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: is still here. Bill Belichick is at the center of everything. 823 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: And Mac Jones. Oh, by the way, this team they 824 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: won nine or ten games last year. In ten games 825 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: last year with the rookie quarterback, Mac Jones dedicated his 826 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: offseason to get into even better shape, and he, I think, 827 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: is going to make a leap. I know you're gonna say, 828 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels isn't there, and that's fair, But there's also 829 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: a scenario where mentally he starts to get even more 830 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: ramped up and the physical side he improves him becomes 831 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: like a legitimate quarterback with Bill Belichick. Stop me if 832 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: you heard this before, and they I think are in 833 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: the wild card race. I think nine ten wins makes 834 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me. So I'm banging the 835 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: over because come on, how many times do we counted 836 00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: out the Patriots before? Into Yes, is Jalen Mills the 837 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: best outside cornerback on this roster? Okay, not only that, 838 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: but our our old colleague, a man by the name 839 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: of Evan Lizzar who now writes for Patriots Com. He 840 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: is very he did like a person by person like 841 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: recap at and he said, Jalen Mills is, without a doubt, 842 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: the number one cornerback on this league. And I've seen 843 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: that in multiple places. And number two right now is 844 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 1: a man named Terrence Mitchell, who the Texans did not 845 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: bring back. So yeah, is it gonna be a work 846 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: in progress? Yes? On offense, absolutely, on defense perhaps, but 847 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: many of people have busted out in this realm, this 848 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 1: world of Vegas thinking Bill Belichick can now I like that. 849 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: You're like, you're you've been pounding this point home about 850 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: the Patriot. You're high on the Patriots. It's so some 851 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: weird reverse jets. You're going forward. I like that. I'm 852 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 1: trying to think. I'm trying to think of a quarterback 853 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: that two months ago I felt as promising as I 854 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,439 Speaker 1: could about Mac Jones. Compared to the reporting around what's 855 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: going on with at offense right now, it's like just distressing. 856 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: So but it is August. I mean, it's gonna take time, 857 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: but I think by the time he gets October, please 858 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: don't be surprised when they get to a softer portion 859 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: of their schedule and all of a sudden they've won 860 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: six of seven. I think as it happens, I think 861 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: player for player, you could look at this offensive roster 862 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: and say, this is the most talented offensive roster of 863 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 1: five years, which is like, not sneaky, not that high 864 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 1: a bar. I know they want a super Bowl in 865 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: that mix, but who are some of them making the 866 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: leap guys that you were wrestling with because you had 867 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: to pick one, and they surprisingly have several guys to 868 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: you that could make sure bar Moore is exciting. Mac 869 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: Jones is certainly exciting your boy, Josh uch A, maybe 870 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 1: we'll finally step up Mina. I saw a Patriots reporter 871 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: tweets something about Kendrick Bourne being used like Deebo Samuel. 872 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they're just trying to install this. Uh. To 873 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: your point though, as a as a longtime fan, obviously 874 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: they always do their in the seasons where uh, there's 875 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: the most negativity around them going into it. It's almost 876 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: like I have a lot of hype. They generally don't 877 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: do it. So this really, this draft doesn't snake. So 878 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick last in the second round as well? 879 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: Is that for something we're gonna track stand? Can I 880 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: ask you a question. Let's say that the order came 881 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: out no one was taking the Let's say I came 882 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: in forth, would you be like the Justice warrior that 883 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: you are around the a beta. I speak up for 884 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: myself when I feel like I'm being taken Bet, I'm 885 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: just asking you would be concerned for other people if 886 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: we're not just you in this situation. I'll give you 887 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: my pick for the number one. If you want to 888 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: switch spots, you can have. Don't you don't see you 889 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: don't good soldier, me, don't I'm the bigger man me. 890 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, maybe it should snake to the zeuser, 891 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,800 Speaker 1: but apparently it was pushed back here you literally just 892 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 1: right now, but listen, I've said my piece. I'm gonna 893 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: go and I hate Actually, you know, I want to 894 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: take this because I do think Mark might. I'm gonna 895 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: go Eagles over nine and a half because I don't 896 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: want to go just like hard negative twice in a row. 897 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:10,439 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Okay, I just know we're kind of both 898 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: on the Eagles. A lot of people are on the Eagles. 899 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: I think they might have started with a lower number 900 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 1: and it's now been up to nine and a half, 901 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: which concerns me a little bit because you never want 902 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: to be too uh too far with the public. That 903 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey injury this week actually reminded me of why 904 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: I love the Eagles so much. Obviously, you don't want 905 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey to go undergo surgery, but you do have 906 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: a second round pick everyone loved and Cam Jurgen's like 907 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 1: right there to step up, And that, to me is 908 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: the story of the Eagles roster. It's like they kind 909 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: of found a number one receiver finally and DeVonta Smith 910 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: and oh, let's go out another we have a promising, 911 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: uh second year defensive tackle who most teams would love 912 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 1: to like really like pump up and Milton Williams. Oh, 913 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,959 Speaker 1: let's go get Jordan Davis. We still have Fletcher Cox. 914 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: We let we get Reddick in free agency. We still 915 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: have Josh Sweat under contract. Oh, by the way, like 916 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: somehow Brandon Graham and Nick Barnett are still there. They 917 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: just like have so even Hurts, Like if Hurts gets 918 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 1: gets injured, you have Gardner Minshew. It's like just so 919 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: much depth where they can survive. And they're out of 920 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: division schedule for this entire division, which is why all 921 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: the NFC East over unders are inflated. Is just tasty. 922 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: You play the a f C South, you play obviously 923 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: you're in division games, and you play the NFC North. 924 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: I love that out of division schedule. I am banging 925 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: that over nine and a half is Cam Jurgen's the 926 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: center who got walked back by Jordan Davis, who's not 927 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 1: gonna get no no. But on the flip side, Jordan Davis, 928 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 1: who's obviously more likely to have to contribute immediately, looks 929 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: freaking amazing. And they say Kelsey is kind of it 930 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: sounds like fifty fifty maybe for week one. That's I'm 931 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: sure it's fine. I love I like the Eagle I 932 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: had them on my list. I'm just but that's the thing, Like, 933 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna have injuries, and they certainly have, especially for 934 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: whatever reason over the years, not as bad last year. Um, 935 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,800 Speaker 1: but it's just like linebacker to Kaiser White, who you 936 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: remember you shot me down for giving him some pop 937 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 1: on your podcast, Mina. And then I was reading the 938 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 1: Football Outsiders, why do you need to do that? Great well, 939 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: because it just reminded me that one of the most 940 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: underrated signings of the off season top six and star 941 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: and yards per past allowed. But it's like him and 942 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: the Kobe Dean a nice little comments let's check remind me. 943 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: I just like read that. I was like, should I 944 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,800 Speaker 1: take a picture of this and send it? And you 945 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: know why you're on the show today. I just wanted 946 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: to get that point out. He was waiting for the 947 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: perfect time, sup. Now I want the Giants just to 948 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 1: reference Daniel Jones making Greg's making the leap list. You 949 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: know I'm not doing it solely if I was just 950 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: actually to be fair, it's more embarrassing. That was just 951 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: like a totally separate Oh no, get ready for Daniel 952 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: Jones Andrew Lock try we try to help Greg with 953 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 1: that when they just want to listen. All right, I'm 954 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:11,839 Speaker 1: gonna bungle bungle tangle this quote. I'm going one ass 955 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: cheek and three toes in. I am taking the Lions 956 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 1: over six point five, over seven or more wins for 957 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: the Detroit lines three and fourteen a year ago, they 958 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: getting the the infamous hard Knocks bump. You watch that 959 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: show and you're always higher on the team. Is it 960 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: happening for me? And I have to apologize because I 961 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: um teased you guys. So the Houston Texans actually have 962 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: a very hard schedule games in the football, which actually 963 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: aligns pretty well with the Football Outsiders projection. They've got 964 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: the Lions as the fifth easiest jewel. It's always hard, 965 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: hardest easy. Um Okay. I think outside of Jared guff 966 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: I love everything about this offensive depth chart. I think 967 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: they have one of the best offensive lines in football. 968 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: They're healthy, battled some injuries last year. Uh, They've got 969 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: nice step there. I think the wide receiver group, whenever 970 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams comes back, is such a fun It's like 971 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: a such a complimentary group with You've got you know, Chark, 972 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: is that the ex big body pass catcher. You've got 973 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 1: Williams stretching the field as the Z You've got Amon 974 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: Ross st Brown working underneath, you know, um and even 975 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,280 Speaker 1: without Um Williams. By the way, I thought Goff flashed 976 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: the really nice chemistry with Josh Reynolds, who knows from 977 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 1: the Rams days. They figured out about part way during 978 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: the season that UM they wanted different, they wanted they 979 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: Campbell took over play calling, but um this season Ben 980 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: Tom Thomas is the name Thompson or Thomas the tight 981 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 1: ends coach Johnson Johnson anyway, so he's gonna play call 982 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,359 Speaker 1: the plays, and I think that worked out pretty well 983 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: for them towards the end of the season. I don't 984 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: love the defense. I think there's still a lot of holes, 985 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: particularly in the secondary, but I think this front has 986 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: the potential, particularly defensive line. With the aforementioned charisma King 987 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:08,720 Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson. Um, now suddenly you've got actual edge rush depth. 988 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: Charles Harris is another good year. You've got the aquaras 989 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: Um kids from Kentucky, Josh Pascal. So, I don't know. 990 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 1: I I like Lin McNeil on the inside. I just 991 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 1: think I don't think they're gonna be a playoff team. 992 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: I just think they're gonna win some games. Look at 993 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: the schedule for the Lions down at near the end 994 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: of the season. Let's say they're a little bit under 995 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: where you want them to be. They have the Jaguars, 996 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: the Jets, the Panthers, the Bears, the Bears twice. They're 997 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 1: they're better than these teams, probably as any easiest stretch 998 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 1: as any any team has a year. And and if 999 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: you're ever gonna construct a team that Jared Goff could 1000 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: succeed on, obviously like a you know, a few more 1001 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 1: established weapons that he's played with, this might be the 1002 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: best offensive line in football. And when I saw that, 1003 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: like as read all the beat writer reports and like, 1004 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: the defense is destroying the offense everywhere except for Detroit, 1005 00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: where like Jared Goff is like lighting them up and 1006 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,479 Speaker 1: has been touched. And I'm like, Okay, that's the offensive line. 1007 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it worries you a little bit about their defense, 1008 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: but then what do we know about Jared Guff. If 1009 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 1: he's comfortable, he's not bad. If he's not comfortable, he 1010 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,800 Speaker 1: is very bad. I like that he wasn't even on 1011 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 1: hard knocks they like literally barely even they don't. They's 1012 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: also been on hard knocks like forty seven times. At 1013 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 1: the fourth time is on a major NFL Films documentary program, 1014 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: and that's a wild thing considering what he brings to 1015 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: the proceedings. Anyway, um, d J Chark, I know we 1016 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: mentioned that as well. They've been flashing throughout training camp, 1017 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 1: the chemistry between DJ, all right, who's up? Mark, You're up? 1018 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 1: I am uh Well, first of all, I was so 1019 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,919 Speaker 1: excited about picking the Lions, so I'm not. I don't 1020 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: love what just happened there. I think, for all the 1021 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: reasons that men pointed, it's just a great pick. I'm 1022 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 1: going Washington Commanders under eight wins. I find this absurd. 1023 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: I don't think this is a terrible football team, but 1024 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 1: I for me, I think that Carson Wentz experiment is 1025 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: already off to a weird start. I don't love it 1026 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: as well. Decided to really go ahead and start to 1027 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: take command. Can I We'll see when they start to 1028 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: You can call it. You call it absurd, but you 1029 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,760 Speaker 1: also say they're not that bad. Eight winds. That feels 1030 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: like that's a land that they I would say that 1031 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 1: some of the choices are are diminishing here in terms 1032 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: of what I'm what I tell me about it, talking 1033 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 1: about you've got like literally almost any option. I just 1034 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: had like seven or eight that I was like, you 1035 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 1: could just disagree, we could have a like a lock 1036 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 1: off type of I didn't even look at it that way. 1037 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: That's we could do that. Oh no, I don't feel 1038 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 1: you saw my pick. I actually I was that was 1039 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: that was what I had slated as my second pick. 1040 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: And then Amina got in my head about being too negative. 1041 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,760 Speaker 1: I think Commanders under eight it's beautiful. It just stands 1042 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: out to me is like I could totally see them 1043 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: having a five win season. That is, couldn't pick. Their 1044 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: defense was worse than their offense last year by a 1045 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,839 Speaker 1: decent amount. And I know they had injuries and they 1046 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 1: have the personnel up front to certainly bounce that can 1047 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 1: be average is on defense, but there's not much reason 1048 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: to think that either that the offense would be close 1049 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: to average. And everybody hates Carson Wentz, so I get it, 1050 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: um and he certainly is not someone that's exciting to watch, 1051 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 1: but you know, he had uh stretches last year where 1052 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: he was perfectly acceptable. I thought as a starting quarterback 1053 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: before things collapse, I just think in that division and 1054 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 1: we gotta take a break because I think this will 1055 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 1: tie together. Let's take a break real quick and then 1056 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,879 Speaker 1: finish things up with me and times. All right, welcome back, 1057 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 1: Washington commandities were just talking about it. Mark. I'm gonna 1058 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 1: take the under on the Dallas Cowboys because I think 1059 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,839 Speaker 1: these teams are all pretty close together, especially I wasn't 1060 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: confident enough to hit the over on the Giants, but 1061 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,840 Speaker 1: I think the Giants will be better this season. I 1062 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 1: think I could see the Cowboys coming down, the Eagles 1063 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: coming up, and the Washington just kind of hanging around 1064 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: in the middle, and I could see this being one 1065 00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: of those divisions where you know, ten wins, nine could 1066 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 1: even win. And I just think the Cowboys, with their 1067 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver concerns, with that offensive line, I want to 1068 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,320 Speaker 1: see if Doc is gonna be all the way back 1069 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 1: to Doc and the guy that he was before the injury. 1070 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: The Mike McCarthy drama. I know they're trying to downplay it, 1071 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: but you know what, if they get off to a 1072 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 1: slow start and I'm looking at their schedule, if they 1073 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: can get to the by in week nine in good shape, 1074 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 1: I'll be in trouble on this because they got Tampa, 1075 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: Cincinnati on the road at home to start the season, 1076 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: at Giants home Washington, at Rams, at Philly home, Detroit 1077 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: home Chicago. If they can get out of those eight 1078 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: games at like five and three, things soften up, and 1079 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 1: yeah they can get uh to ten and maybe even eleven. 1080 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 1: But I see them coming out of the gate a 1081 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: little bit slow. And I see this team eight or 1082 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 1: nine wins. Um who's winning this division? In your mind? 1083 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: The Eagles. I mean, in the power rank as I 1084 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: have the Cowboys and Eagles right next to each other, 1085 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 1: so I had the Cowboys ahead, but at the same 1086 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 1: time it would not surprise me. Some deal sneaks up 1087 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: and takes this. I worry about the teams where defense 1088 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: leads the way and I and weirdly that's the Cowboys 1089 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 1: this year. But yeah, on paper, the defense has a 1090 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 1: real chance to be a top five defense. You know, 1091 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: number one, they were top five a year ago. And 1092 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 1: and DeMarcus Lawrence, you get a full season out of him. 1093 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 1: The secondary doesn't look amazing on paper, but there is 1094 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 1: crazy continuity and youth on the defense, which is not 1095 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: a bad combination. Very few teams have that. I love 1096 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 1: the Anthony Barr signing, if only because like it indicates 1097 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 1: that they want to use Michael Parsons more as a 1098 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: pass rusher. I think that's sort of what that's about. Like, 1099 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: it's a really nice defense on paper. Plus Dak Prescott 1100 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 1: is feels like tend to me, feels like the right number, 1101 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 1: and with the easy schedule, I'd probably go over if 1102 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 1: I had to choose, But but I don't feel strong. 1103 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm with you on the under eye and I've got 1104 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 1: wavered between the Eagles and the Cowboys. Who's gonna win 1105 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: the division? It's roster versus quarterback, right, But a couple 1106 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: of things about the Cowboys that are concerning. Obviously, the 1107 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver depth is just a massive issue with this team. 1108 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 1: It has been gotten more and more massive. Um. I 1109 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm hopping off the killing more bandwagon, 1110 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 1: but I feel like he hasn't shown that sort of 1111 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: ability to make adjustment. I worry. I look at this 1112 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 1: roster and I and I wonder, Okay, what is this 1113 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,200 Speaker 1: offense going to look like now as they've lost talent? 1114 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 1: And then on the other side of the football, the 1115 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 1: defense was really good last year, but if you kind 1116 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 1: of dig through the numbers, they are a prime regression 1117 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 1: candidates so dependent on turnovers. Um gave up big plays, 1118 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 1: but made big plays. They do have the potential to 1119 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 1: have one of the best past rushes in the league, 1120 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,919 Speaker 1: and I'm very excited to see how Michael Parsons used 1121 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 1: this year. But behind them, I don't know. It's just 1122 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going I still think they're going 1123 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: to be good. I just don't think they're gonna be 1124 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 1: one of the five best defense in the NFL. Again, 1125 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 1: can't you see this season doing sideways for them? Too? 1126 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: Like every other season seems to go sideways for the Cowboys. 1127 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: But if you look at their schedule, I think you're 1128 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: going to be right up against it. It's gonna be 1129 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna create. But also I don't 1130 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: think this is a twelve and five team either. I 1131 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,920 Speaker 1: think I think nine wins is gonna be it. All Right, 1132 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: you want to do one more real quick kind of 1133 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 1: like a speed round, and then wrap things up. Okay, 1134 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad, I'm I'm annoyed you took the Commanders, But 1135 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 1: I did have like four picks I really liked a lot, 1136 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: and so my last one, uh is Chiefs over ten 1137 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 1: and a half. I mean, this isn't that complicated. They 1138 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes. Here's their win totals twelve and twelve, 1139 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 1: fourteen and twelve and that it absolutely is and I 1140 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: and I obviously that's the big negative here, uh, but 1141 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: I think they have some positives that they didn't have 1142 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 1: in some of those years. Number one is I have 1143 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: a feeling the past rusher might be significantly better than 1144 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 1: this year. I'm sort of buying the Frank Clark rejuvenation 1145 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 1: hype after giving them absolutely nothing, uh car loftus and 1146 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: then dunlop as like your third guy like that that's better, 1147 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 1: and then it's the best offensive line I think they've had, 1148 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 1: uh in that time. And I'm just not overthinking it 1149 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 1: too much. I think that over ten and a half 1150 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 1: is a is an easy one. I had two over, 1151 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go and under. I feel bad because 1152 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 1: I feel like people think I have a beef with 1153 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 1: this team, and I don't. I have a beef with 1154 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 1: their social account. It's the Arizona Cardinals took mine again. 1155 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 1: Um Okay, So basically they're at eight and a half, 1156 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: so it's it's are they going to have a you know, 1157 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 1: a winning season or a losing season is kind of 1158 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 1: what's on the line here. Um, I think the third 1159 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 1: best team in the division pretty clearly. The Hopkins in 1160 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: suspension is absolutely brutal for them. Seeing what cliffkings Bury 1161 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: has done without Danner Higruands that has not been great. Uh. 1162 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 1: And then defensively, oh my god, have you guys looked 1163 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 1: at this defensive depth chart lately? Up front? It's not great, man. 1164 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they're going to figure I've been reading 1165 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 1: the reports about them using Isaiah Simmons more as a safety, 1166 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, and just giving him that a side role. 1167 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:59,480 Speaker 1: Maybe that gets him on the field more. Maybe. I'm 1168 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 1: Marcus Golden is the best edge presser they have right now. 1169 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 1: J J. Watt I thought was actually pretty good win healthy, 1170 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 1: but god, this is it is And look, man, s 1171 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 1: Joseph has been excellent at putting something together out of 1172 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 1: asking a lot of it's a lot. Yeah. I just don't. 1173 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: I just don't think they have the depth on that 1174 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: side of the ball. I feel like we agree, we 1175 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 1: all agree too much of you had it next. It 1176 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 1: was on my you know, medium list for sure. Yeah, uh, 1177 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 1: Mark your last one. I hope you picked one of 1178 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 1: the two that I'm wrestling with, so it makes it 1179 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 1: easier for me. Let's see what happens. I am going 1180 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers uh ten wins. I'm taking the over. 1181 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean it starts with Justin Herbert, it starts with 1182 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 1: everything that's around Justin Herbert. I love the idea that 1183 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 1: Zion Johnson has been dominant at right guard, the rookie, 1184 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 1: their first round pick. I look at the defense and 1185 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 1: what they've added. It's it's not just Khalil Mac, it's 1186 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 1: j C. Jackson and you've got Derwin James. And I 1187 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 1: truly think that Brandon Staley came out of last season 1188 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 1: um extremely agitated with how the defense just sort of crumbled, 1189 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: and I think you've got a You've got a plan. 1190 01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: I love this coach, I love the quarterback. I think 1191 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna flat out win the division. I mean eleven 1192 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:08,880 Speaker 1: the Chargers who eternally let us down not impossible last year. 1193 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 1: I think they I think that they high. I think 1194 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 1: that what they've found, what what they added on defense, 1195 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 1: allows Brandon Staley to basically fulfill his vision if it 1196 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 1: doesn't happen this year. Had a big questions about them, 1197 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: but I don't understand anyone's down on Brandon Staley. People 1198 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 1: are gonna put out projections with like three a f 1199 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,439 Speaker 1: C West teams all winning in a mathematically impossible number 1200 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 1: of games, right, it's one of the one or two 1201 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: of these teams is going to have to be a 1202 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 1: big letdown. But to me, that's the fact that they're 1203 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 1: only separated by half a game. With the Chiefs are 1204 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: only half a game different than the Broncos and the 1205 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 1: Chargers like that, that seems like value to me. Whereas 1206 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I'm taking them more and more than a 1207 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 1: half a game better than those I'm not down on Staley. 1208 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 1: I just don't know if I see him as a 1209 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,919 Speaker 1: difference maker yet. I don't. I don't know if there's 1210 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 1: enough evidence for that post that on socially you're going 1211 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,959 Speaker 1: to get the Chargers Jersey Well, you know the machine 1212 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 1: and is there is there is another option we could 1213 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 1: say this, but yeah, let's save because your your fandom 1214 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 1: is something very interesting but also a sensitive subject on 1215 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 1: this podcast. But let's it will come up naturally later. 1216 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta get out of here. But I 1217 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 1: got something right the last one for me, and I 1218 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: was stunned that I was still out there. Um, but 1219 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do Ravens over. I think they're gonna 1220 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 1: win that division, and I think nine and a half 1221 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 1: is something you can live with. But uh, I can 1222 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 1: see them as ten or eleven. But I'm gonna go 1223 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: with the Bills. Their number one in my power rank 1224 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 1: is eleven and a half is a huge number. But 1225 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,439 Speaker 1: I just I'm I'm just gonna buy in and say 1226 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 1: everything that they've done, everything they've been building too, is 1227 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 1: a truly huge season coming up. And barring a major 1228 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 1: injury or injuries or some other issues, I know Brian 1229 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 1: Dayble's not there and you can choose to dig in 1230 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 1: there if you want. On the offensive side of the ball, 1231 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with that. It does come together. They 1232 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 1: are by far the best team in that division. So 1233 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna beat up on the a f C East, 1234 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 1: take care of business elsewhere, and they're gonna win. They 1235 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: will go twelve and five, thirteen and four. Um, and 1236 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 1: let's somebody's got to have the monster record. Why not them? 1237 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 1: Mina Kimes, I like it as a Patriots hedge over. 1238 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 1: They only had ten last year, which you sort of 1239 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 1: forget the only one ten games last year. They did 1240 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 1: uh sit their starters in Week eighteen, so that was 1241 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 1: part of that ten wins, so that they had some 1242 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: But on paper, you're right, I think this is one 1243 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 1: of those the off seasons too long that at least 1244 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: I felt like I was like this, this is the 1245 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 1: best team in the NFL. You felt that in May, 1246 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,600 Speaker 1: and now it's just like, feels too boring to go 1247 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 1: with a juggernaut or two, and I'm I'm picking the 1248 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 1: Bills confidantly as one of those I know it's next 1249 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 1: on my list was Seahawks over five and a half. 1250 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,160 Speaker 1: Didn't get that in there, but that seemed crazy to me. 1251 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 1: Maybe I should have gone with that. But that man, 1252 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's not losing peat. Carroll's not losing twelve games. 1253 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: I think the CFD defense is gonna be better than 1254 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,880 Speaker 1: people expect. Yeah, let's ask me about that. What is 1255 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: your feeling about the way they're handling the entire quarterback situation, 1256 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 1: even going back to the decision to move us and 1257 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 1: to where we are sensitive such will give you the 1258 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 1: floor a little monogue here, Uh, the optimistic interpretation that 1259 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 1: I find myself sometimes leaning towards is that the organization 1260 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 1: is actually pretty self aware about where they are. They're 1261 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 1: going for the halfway, rebuild the old, We're gonna retool 1262 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 1: on the fly. Take this year off with the quarterback, 1263 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 1: get a quarterback next year, get some cap space cleared, 1264 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 1: use our picks to improve at premium positions like offensive line, 1265 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: address or corner. So I like all of that. Um, 1266 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 1: they seem at least more self aware than certainly some 1267 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 1: other teams. I think that actually did go all in 1268 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 1: on getting some mediocre quarterbacks. Um. That set is it's 1269 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 1: not gonna be fun to watch this year. And this 1270 01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 1: is always the question, right, which is like do we 1271 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 1: want our teams to be smart or fun? Um? I'm 1272 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 1: I think the defense will be interesting. I like the 1273 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 1: coaching changes that they've made, brought in a lot of 1274 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 1: really smart guys on that side of the football. Carl 1275 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: Scott Shanta say Clinton Hurts elevated as defensive coordinators. So 1276 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how that looks. But you know, 1277 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,360 Speaker 1: if they don't get a good quarterback next year, it'll 1278 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 1: all be for now. That's the X factor. Would you 1279 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 1: have wanted for the fun angle? I'm not saying this 1280 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 1: is would have completely solved your problems. Would you have 1281 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 1: wanted Baker Mayfield? And I mean I know there was 1282 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 1: a it was a candidate. Um, well, so that would 1283 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 1: have been you know, I think they would have been 1284 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 1: like the Panthers. Frankly, it's like, okay, well this is 1285 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 1: a team. That's if the c X had Baker Mayfield, 1286 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 1: I think we would be talking about them as a 1287 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,720 Speaker 1: fringe wild card candidate. Mar great team and you know 1288 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 1: this it got It goes back to the smart versus fun, 1289 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: Like do I want to have more fun watching this 1290 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 1: team this season or do I want them to do 1291 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 1: what is probably the right thing to do for the 1292 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 1: long term. Um? I increasingly maybe it's just me having 1293 01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 1: fewer years on this earth, I lean more towards let's 1294 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 1: be fun and you never know what's going to happen 1295 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 1: with draft picks and whatnot. Because being doing the smart 1296 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 1: thing is nice and it's also a nice way for 1297 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 1: the people to argue for the Seahawks and what they're 1298 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 1: doing right now. But you just said it like that, 1299 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that they get the quarterback and teams 1300 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,519 Speaker 1: have spent twenty years looking for that person. And even 1301 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 1: if you win like two or three more games with 1302 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, you can still put something together go crazy 1303 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,800 Speaker 1: next year. We see teams do that time and time again. 1304 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,000 Speaker 1: Taking is pretty stupid in the NFL. Frankly, I do. 1305 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,000 Speaker 1: I wish they had taken a flyer on one of 1306 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 1: the rookies, just because there were so much value there, 1307 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,760 Speaker 1: like a maliqu Willis or a dozen rid or whatever, 1308 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 1: just to have some, you know, a developmental prospect. I 1309 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 1: think teams should generally do that, and I don't know 1310 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 1: why they don't do it more often. Maybe it won't 1311 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 1: be fun for you. But if we're in week twelve, 1312 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 1: they're eleven, and they're five and five and Gino is 1313 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: directing like a run heavy, like ugly, like you know, 1314 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 1: they're winning games nineteen to seventeen, and or maybe they're 1315 01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: six and five. Let's give them a win record. Like 1316 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is gonna be having fun. I'm gonna be 1317 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 1: having fun watching this. I think Pete Carroll's like dream 1318 01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 1: in the world is to go nine and eight with 1319 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 1: this team with like a and I could absolutely see 1320 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 1: that happening with a defensive talent and the running game 1321 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 1: that they have and at least like the weapons on 1322 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,760 Speaker 1: the outside. If the like rookie tackles work out, you, 1323 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,760 Speaker 1: I can absolutely see them winning nine games. And Pete 1324 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,560 Speaker 1: Carroll like loving life and maybe a certain segment of 1325 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,720 Speaker 1: the Seahawks fan base actually sort of loving this sort 1326 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,519 Speaker 1: of weird type. Basically the pre Russell Wilson Seahawks. Well, 1327 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,800 Speaker 1: I mean they like with with Pete Carroll, they quake 1328 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 1: and all that other business. Having low expectations and having 1329 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,559 Speaker 1: them mildly exceeded is way more fun than having high 1330 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,400 Speaker 1: expectations and being disappointed. So i'm i'm I can live 1331 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,840 Speaker 1: in this space. It's like ugly games. I wish I 1332 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 1: had taken I wish I had taken that. They were 1333 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,840 Speaker 1: next on my list. They were in my top five, 1334 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,559 Speaker 1: but I didn't want to look like a homer. They 1335 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 1: were in my top SA can I can I throw 1336 01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:59,720 Speaker 1: some rapid fire ones at you and you all just 1337 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 1: around say over under no explanation, but just to hit 1338 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:06,200 Speaker 1: a few more teams. Yeah, do four it, We'll each 1339 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,800 Speaker 1: do it all right, go ahead, Mark, Oh, I was 1340 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 1: going to throw out forty niners, ten wins over under 1341 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:16,320 Speaker 1: over next. That to me was like, okay, that's the 1342 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 1: right number. Coults ten wins. I mean, that's another one 1343 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 1: that just felt like the right. Now I go over. 1344 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 1: If I had to Raiders eight and a half, I'll 1345 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:31,200 Speaker 1: bang the over on that Dolphins nine wins that they 1346 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 1: were on my really long winst I get under good 1347 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,799 Speaker 1: good one, good job. How about the Titans, Grave Digger, 1348 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 1: where are we at on your Titans? By the way, 1349 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 1: they're all fired up at the old Zeuser over the 1350 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,840 Speaker 1: Ragons and trailing Burkes, Like, calm down, I'm not I'm 1351 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 1: not making those reports. I'm sighting reports. So what happened 1352 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,040 Speaker 1: was NBC Sports Edge picked up a tweet from actually 1353 01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 1: my buddy, yeah, I wrote a world whatever they are 1354 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 1: now picked up a tweet where somebody at Titans camp 1355 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,600 Speaker 1: said that Trailon Burke's had caught a few passes with 1356 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 1: the second and third teen quarterbacks and messed up one 1357 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 1: route assignment. And they reported that Burke's is only working 1358 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: with the second and third teams and doesn't know where 1359 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,600 Speaker 1: to line up. In all this, it became a huge thing, 1360 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,479 Speaker 1: sast thing about the Titans fans. And I love you guys, 1361 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,720 Speaker 1: all the listeners, but you can't just chill. I have 1362 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,599 Speaker 1: people coming in my mentions like al right, Titans ation, 1363 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 1: let's get this guy because he's incompetence, like chill, chill, 1364 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 1: to insinuate that I was being with the Titans. I 1365 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 1: thought that because they're kind of a sensitive fan base, 1366 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 1: they're one of the sensitive fan bases that maybe they 1367 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 1: were coming after you. That's what annoys them when you 1368 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 1: say that. Yeah, and then it proves to be true. 1369 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:50,000 Speaker 1: But it's just like that positive Mena Kimes, what is 1370 01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,439 Speaker 1: your what's the over under for the nine wins? I 1371 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:56,240 Speaker 1: would say over just because Mike, I mean, I'm biased, obviously, 1372 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,599 Speaker 1: Mike vybel though has never been worse than nine and seven, 1373 01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,639 Speaker 1: and neither is John Robinson going act. I didn't consider 1374 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 1: them just because we talked about the Titans now so much. 1375 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 1: We've overcorrected so hard that more than any team, like 1376 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,720 Speaker 1: the Geno Smith topic, which doesn't come up other than 1377 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 1: four times Sean Kelly Eagles over under nine and a half. Oh, 1378 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: come on here we go. Yeah, that's gonna be an 1379 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 1: over shout out to Creig thanks for the over pick. 1380 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 1: Definitely an over there. I mean, just Mena was talking 1381 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 1: about earlier, just like packing that lineup and the way 1382 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,519 Speaker 1: that there's Kelly cam always coming in. Let me bring 1383 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 1: that up. No, it's just they have so many players 1384 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,600 Speaker 1: that they've been like the pickups this past season. Just 1385 01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:44,920 Speaker 1: be kee alright, Mina Kimes said it all. And listen, men, 1386 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 1: we we don't have a yacht that we can invite 1387 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,120 Speaker 1: you to. Uh. And this is certainly not a negotiation 1388 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,200 Speaker 1: that you're in the building today, but this is for you. 1389 01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 1: He's handing over. I took that off someone's desk, an 1390 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 1: NFL network hat, but it's never been Warren. And uh, 1391 01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 1: if you want to take that as a gift, that's 1392 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 1: all it is. It's not are you Are you allowed 1393 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 1: to wear an NFL network garb? Oh god, I was 1394 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:15,240 Speaker 1: gonna put it on unthinkingly. A little minor controversy there. 1395 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,200 Speaker 1: Let's let's just say that was a personal gift and 1396 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 1: nothing more. And what is your contract? Explore? All right, 1397 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 1: Stephen Mina, thank you so much for joining us. You 1398 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,320 Speaker 1: know where to find me on ESPN, the Mini Times 1399 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:32,439 Speaker 1: Show featuring Lenny all the other good stuff. Always a pleasure. 1400 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,760 Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks guys, all right, and we'll be back. 1401 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,799 Speaker 1: What is today Wednesday? Yes, we'll be back tomorrow Thursday. 1402 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,720 Speaker 1: Mixing up the schedule with another show, so make sure 1403 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 1: to join us check out the Hard Knocks podcast. Until then, 1404 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 1: you know what you gotta do. Be the call