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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Goal Steelers Nation Radio h Welcome back to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale, Matt Williamson, and Matt. One of the one

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Speaker 1: of the things that we do like to look at

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Speaker 1: during the course of the season is the quarterback Index

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Speaker 1: on ESPN or um NFL dot com. I should say

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosen I put that together. He did their Week

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Speaker 1: one ranking. A lot of times they do. Maybe this

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Speaker 1: is different this year. They have they have like a

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Speaker 1: conglomeration of guy's voting. Okay, so this isn't based on

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Speaker 1: opponents and things like that. They're just talking about how

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Speaker 1: good these guys are right now. How good these guys

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Speaker 1: are right now. And we've said for a while now,

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Speaker 1: you know, if the Steelers get average quarterback play this year,

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Speaker 1: they'll be a pretty good team. We said that going

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Speaker 1: into last year Lo and Behold they were pretty good

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Speaker 1: football team. Yeah, right exactly. I mean it's coming off

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Speaker 1: of that. You know, maybe I'm optimistic, but just from

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Speaker 1: a elbow surgery standpoint, I think Ben's gonna throw the

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Speaker 1: ball better this year, control it better, throw it better.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he will in December. You know, we'll

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Speaker 1: see him. Not predicting the future, but I think he's

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Speaker 1: in a better place now than he was one year ago.

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Speaker 1: I think I'll have to throw it less right right.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll be less stretched him. That should help, right,

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Speaker 1: right right. I got it back with um. So their

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Speaker 1: quarterback grounds. We'll go from the bottom up. They start

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Speaker 1: with thirty two. Okay, all projected starters, projected starters and

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Speaker 1: like fields and Lands and those guys. All the projected

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Speaker 1: starters are in here. Now. Sam Donald comes in at

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Speaker 1: thirty two. That's rough. I mean, that's pretty mean. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's been a bad player. I mean, okay, if

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Speaker 1: you were to bet, what's the highest he'll reach all year?

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's I think he's more like twenty

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Speaker 1: five ish than he is thirty two, So I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be eight. He's got great weapons around it, right.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good situation. I think he's better

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Speaker 1: than Teddy. It did pretty well in that system last year.

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Speaker 1: Throw McCaffrey in the mix and Terence Marshall. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he's in a pretty good spot to succeed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do too. I mean I don't love him. I'm

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Speaker 1: not putting you know a million dollars that he's in

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Speaker 1: turn into a Pro Bowl or I I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: if you're looking just at you know, he everaged six

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Speaker 1: point one yard's propasit MP last miserable, which is that's

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Speaker 1: lesson everybody's killing Roethlisberger. That's like bottom the league miserable.

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Speaker 1: And he's he's a guy that throws the ball down

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Speaker 1: the field, like see, I think that would be he

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Speaker 1: fits in Carolina. They got guys who get down field.

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Speaker 1: The turn overs are always the thing to bother me.

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Speaker 1: I mean even back to high school, he threw the

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Speaker 1: ball the other team too much. Thirty one Tyrod Taylor, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor should be thirty two. Yeah. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: a perfect bridge guy. He's a total backup. He does

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Speaker 1: not force the ball. I mean, he's Alex Smith level conservative.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't run as much as people think he does either,

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Speaker 1: doesn't create things on his own hardly at all. He's

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he's the best quarterback in

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Speaker 1: in in football right now. Like if if the Texans

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Speaker 1: came to you right now and said, we'll give you

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor for Mason Rudolph. Doesn't move the needle no, right, like, um,

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Speaker 1: what am I gaining here? I mean, especially about to pay?

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Speaker 1: I mean he makes money, you know, right, like no

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Speaker 1: thirty Andy Dalton. Yeah, I thought it was even funny,

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Speaker 1: Like five years ago they equated Dalton is like he's

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Speaker 1: the league average quarterback. If you're better than Dalton, you're fine.

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Speaker 1: He was never league average. I mean even on his

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Speaker 1: best day, he had a very good team around him.

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Speaker 1: When he when he had a good team around him,

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Speaker 1: they made the playoffs and didn't win and didn't win.

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Speaker 1: Right when they didn't have a good team around him,

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Speaker 1: they didn't make the playoffs. He couldn't elevate anybody. And

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Speaker 1: he's always been a guy. The longer the snap goes,

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Speaker 1: the worst it goes. So he is understanding of things,

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Speaker 1: and you know he can be a bridge guy. Had

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Speaker 1: great weapons last year in Dallas, great weapons, great weapons,

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Speaker 1: and it was bad. He's a backup to twenty nine

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald. Salon Hurts has four career starts. I think

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Speaker 1: the Eagles would trade your Hurts for Donald without a doubt.

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Speaker 1: But in a heartbeat, yeah, I mean, frankly I think

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Speaker 1: Minshew might take more snaps this year than than Hurts.

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Speaker 1: He completed fifty in four stars last year. He can

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Speaker 1: played fifty of his passes in an era where six

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Speaker 1: five is the norm. Yeah, that's the norm. Two of

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Speaker 1: the very bottom where him and Wentz completion percentage on

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Speaker 1: the same team, which they could have done a better

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Speaker 1: job of scheming up easy throws and the line was bad.

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Speaker 1: But his accuracy in college was why I didn't like

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Speaker 1: him coming out of school. And he's a good athlete,

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Speaker 1: a really good athlete, but he's not a better runner

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Speaker 1: than Josh Allen, you know what I mean. That's why

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Speaker 1: when when people were, you know, mocking him to the

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Speaker 1: Steelers last year, I'm like, no way, it's not for me.

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Speaker 1: That's just that's crazy. And I'd have to watch him

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Speaker 1: more this year because it was only four last year.

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Speaker 1: But he was see it and throw it guy because

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Speaker 1: he was at Bayama in Oklahoma, you know, because he

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Speaker 1: could better. Right, I can hold an extra pulse, then

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Speaker 1: I can let it go. That's not gonna fly there. No,

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Speaker 1: he's not for me. I think Minshe will play more

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Speaker 1: than him. Is Teddy Bridgewater. Yes, that's exactly where here,

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Speaker 1: that's who he is. I'd rather Donald, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: frankly right right right, you know, but I do think

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Speaker 1: that the hard to play year eight, year eight. I

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Speaker 1: mean that book has written. Yeah, he's Andy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's different in him and Andy Allton? Nothing? Nothing, nothing,

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Speaker 1: they're really backups. Twenty seven is Jared Goff. I probably

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Speaker 1: would put him in that neighborhood, but I feel like

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Speaker 1: he's getting kicked when he's down a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: He could played sixty six point nine percent of his passes,

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Speaker 1: like four thousand, two one yards, twenty two touchdown passes,

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Speaker 1: thirteen interceptions, had a hundred nine rushing yards with four

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Speaker 1: touch four rushing touchdowns, lost four fumbles. So he turned

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Speaker 1: the ball over seventeen times. That's a lot. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: they didn't push the ball down the field. But he

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Speaker 1: created six touchdowns. Right, He threw for over four thousand yards.

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Speaker 1: He could played sixty seven percent of his passes. That's

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Speaker 1: he's not twenty seven, he's not seven. I can't put

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Speaker 1: him behind the rookies, no, exactly, And I think he

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Speaker 1: deserves a little more respect than that. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: taking a team to a super Bowl, for god, He's

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Speaker 1: not the typical first overall pick, you know, in terms

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Speaker 1: of tools. But he's got tools. He's got he can

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Speaker 1: throw the football. Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be on

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Speaker 1: here Somewhere's that much worse than Jimmy Garoppolo, gofmore talented

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Speaker 1: than him. I'm trying to think of a team. What

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Speaker 1: if Golf, we're on New England or I mean, someone

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Speaker 1: with a line and a stable organization did win games

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Speaker 1: with them and we've brought to some event a million

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Speaker 1: times Baker Cousins now Ben And that's why I'm going

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Speaker 1: with this Golf like, they're a lot better when they

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Speaker 1: have Dalvin Cook and Chub and a healthy Girly. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's coincidence that when when Golf had Girlely

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Speaker 1: churning it out and as an outlet receiver that was

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Speaker 1: a really good offense off were the next quarterback of

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, would that be the worst thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: I would aim higher. I would aim higher. But if

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Speaker 1: that was what if that's what you had to know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what you ended up with last year. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's just say that Bennett retired after the year and

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Speaker 1: the Rams said will trade you golf and the first

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Speaker 1: round pick to take him, like they did the Lions,

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Speaker 1: Like we're gonna give you stuff to take this guy. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm grabbing him all day long. Quarterback. He's he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a starter next year and the year after and

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Speaker 1: the year after. Yeah, six is Joe Burrow? Whereould the

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Speaker 1: Deelers be right now? With him? With golf? Not much different?

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Speaker 1: I'd rather Ben. But if it was the exact same

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Speaker 1: team next year with golf and you signed an awesome

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman and a great corner, you know, you just

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Speaker 1: go get your playoff team. You're pretty darn good, you know,

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Speaker 1: is Burrow? I would go higher, but you need to

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Speaker 1: show me more. And you didn't play that many games.

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Speaker 1: he didn't. Accuracies there. I would have him ahead of

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Speaker 1: this guy, though, to mhm, that's actually foolish. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean we're not two. Has had a good preseason and

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Speaker 1: you're putting in that? I mean, they're rookie years, aren't

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Speaker 1: even close. And too it didn't have a lot around him,

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Speaker 1: but probably the better supporting Cast than than Borrow. When

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Speaker 1: you factor in the line, neither one is good the line.

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Speaker 1: But Carson Wentz, Wentz and Donald is the same to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz average six yards per pass attempt last year.

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Speaker 1: He was worse than Darnald last year fifteen interceptions and

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Speaker 1: the lost four fun but he's turned the ball over

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Speaker 1: nineteen times in twelve games. And he's done that ever

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Speaker 1: gone away for him. I mean, I get Donald and

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Speaker 1: twelve games turned it over fifty or thirteen times, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they're always losing um with a much worse supporting

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Speaker 1: cat like, yeah, they're supporting Cast was awful. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I understand that Wentz has had good seasons and had

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Speaker 1: a really good season and Donald can't say that. But

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Speaker 1: if I'm the Colts or the Panthers and I had

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Speaker 1: to pick between those two, you know, based you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd take. I think they're very similar. If Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts do not make the playoffs. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what that Yeah, yeah, I mean, I agree Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: I was looking up some stats last night. Actually had

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Speaker 1: a he had a really good good season last year.

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Speaker 1: If you look at what he did. We should admit,

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Speaker 1: but we were pretty wrong about him. I mean a

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Speaker 1: year ago we both thought Rivers was washed. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to be the answer there. He was

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Speaker 1: pretty stable. Yeah, I didn't wasn't gonna be a guy

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Speaker 1: But even he didn't lose him either. But a dump

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Speaker 1: at the Taylor, dump at the hind you know, states

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Speaker 1: he was a point guard. Yeah, he was smart. Won't

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Speaker 1: do that, No, Wentz, won't do that. No. Twenty three

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones lower. Yeah, he turned the football over sixteen

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Speaker 1: times in fourteen games, and he does that a lot.

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Speaker 1: He needs a lot of help and doesn't really get it.

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Speaker 1: He's a good athlete, better athlete than people think. And

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Speaker 1: he started running them more by design stuff and that

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Speaker 1: was a useful tool on a bad offense. And he

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Speaker 1: had really good deep passing numbers. But there's no like

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of guys like him that

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Speaker 1: could have a bad year. They have two first round

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Speaker 1: another team next year. He's not ok but he's not

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Speaker 1: okay if he's the next stealer guy, if that's the incident, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that anyone saving him. Twenty two is

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Speaker 1: don't know how you do that either. I can't put

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Speaker 1: an all time I don't think he's played another game

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Speaker 1: his prime. These other five are good. Five is Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I would have Wilson had to Jackson, I would too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's obviously unique. Um, he's dangerous. He won

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Speaker 1: if your quarterback can't handle it, you don't give him

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Speaker 1: diverse concept. But Roman every step of the way has

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Speaker 1: been creative. But not in the passing game. That Shanahan right.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem where Lamar is at. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's hard to play against. Say, at least four

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Speaker 1: I kind of got kind of swept aside there, but

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Speaker 1: we do for a living, you shouldn't say these words

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Speaker 1: Tom Brad's overrated. Yeah, I mean just in terms of

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Speaker 1: would try to play against. I mean, I know Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen's coming took any of the top fifteen or sixteen

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on this list not named Tom Brady put them

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Speaker 1: on that Tampa team last year. That was gonna say

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Speaker 1: if you swapped situations with Brady and Stafford last year,

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Speaker 1: Stafford wins the super Stafford's four on that list and

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Speaker 1: Brady's ten, and we're talking about what a great career,

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Speaker 1: great defense which they had before Brady got there. They

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Speaker 1: Brady just didn't turn the football over forty times like

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Speaker 1: especially from the bye week on. They started driving the

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Speaker 1: systems really well. And obviously his mind and leadership is massive.

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Speaker 1: But if you're talking about Steelers Week one opponent, would

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Speaker 1: are definitely rather playing the weeks like sixteen. Yeah, number

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Speaker 1: three Josh Allen, sure Steelers will see him in Week one.

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Speaker 1: Remarkable season. Six fumbles lost for him last year, by

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Speaker 1: the way, that's what he does. I'm not predicting this,

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Speaker 1: but I and I don't think anyone should hold it

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Speaker 1: against Alan if it happens. But if he doesn't, if

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Speaker 1: he plateaus, I think we should expect that. Almost to

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Speaker 1: keep thinking he's gonna get better, it's crazy. You can't

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Speaker 1: he's made are just two giants Number two is Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's but before last year I would

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Speaker 1: had Rogers like eight. Yeah he was, I mean he

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Speaker 1: was not the same until year two in this Shanahan

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Speaker 1: like system, and he bought in and it was outstanding.

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Speaker 1: And number one is Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, I agree. I

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Speaker 1: mean the top two are pretty easy to me, and

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Speaker 1: really I think Allen's a pretty clear three. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: who had put four? I don't know. That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: Definitely definitely some tears there, right, I mean there's guys

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Speaker 1: likely Wilson. Yeah, I think you're right. I think that's

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Speaker 1: an easy one. Wilson's over Brady. Yes, he's a I

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Speaker 1: would much rather play Tom Brady right now than Russell Wilson, Yes,

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Speaker 1: no matter what their teammates are like or no matter

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Speaker 1: fits in a parking lot or wherever. Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: And Brady is great. So I mean, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: don't like to play those guys, no, I would much rather.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about the running components at all.

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Speaker 1: With in Wilson, every bit of the downfield passer, every

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Speaker 1: bit of the you know, it's he's not a new guy.

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Speaker 1: Allen will looked confused some times. On Sunday, Brady won't

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Speaker 1: Wilson won't you know, Yeah, but that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for the same bad list. Yeah, bad for Sam Donald. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Uh he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. You're listening

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