1 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: What is up everybody? A little three and Out weekend podcast. 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: A couple of things came up Thursday, so we just 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: push it back. Great party about podcast. Do whatever you want. Uh, 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: it's not a big change or anything. It just happened 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: to play out this week. But we'll see. Some days 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: will be Friday, some days will be Saturday. It will 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: never stop coming though, that that'll be a fact. I 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: got a lot to dive in. A lot going on 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: right now in the National Football League. Uh got the 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: PGA Championship on in the background. 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One theme that has come 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: out so far the last couple of weeks, but especially 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: this week, has been how the head coaches and the 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: and the general managers and teams and their players have 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: found compromise. And one thing I think I talked about 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: a week or two ago was how the union, who 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: wanted to lead a boycott of the off season activities, 26 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: really was just representing the elite, the tie end players 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: and their desires, right Because you know Julio Jones, Aaron Rodgers. 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: You just go around the league the high end players. 29 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: I I don't know, Julio is just top of mind, 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: but you could use any veteran guy on a big 31 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: boy contract whose job is secure. I wouldn't want offseason either, 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: training on my own, especially if I don't live in 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: the city. But those people in the league, or a 34 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: small percentage of guys, the majority of the league, just 35 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: like the majority of society or working class people and below, 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: are fighting for their jobs every day. They're basically the 37 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: equivalent of what most of us are in the real world. 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: At will employees, their career can end at any moment. 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: Whether you were drafting the fifth, six and seventh round, 40 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: you're not guaranteed a snap. Whether you're a couple of 41 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: year player you know into your career on a veteran 42 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: minimum contract, you can be cut at any moment. So 43 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: the off season is very, very big for one to 44 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: get FaceTime around your bosses to learn new offenses if 45 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: you're coming from a new team. It's just it's important. Now. 46 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: I think the word that, like I said, is compromised. 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: I saw a bunch of different head coaches have talked 48 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: about it in their press conference over the last week 49 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: or two that they worked with their general manager to 50 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: meet with the players and figure out a way so 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: the off season wasn't going overboard, and in fairness to 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: the players, like some real issues is there. There shouldn't 53 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: be eleven on eleven And if I've been lucky enough 54 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: to be go to these offseason activities and mandatory minicamps 55 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: for a decade, they do get probably too physical with 56 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage right the offensive defensive line. They're 57 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: not wearing pads yet they're still rushing full go. Now 58 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: they can't sack the quarterback or whatever. But it's probably 59 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: a little outrageous, and ultimately the head coaches picked us 60 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: you know that talk to all their players and they 61 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: found a compromise that they were gonna rein it back 62 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. But that's not abnormal, Isn't that what 63 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: happens in most businesses. Think about right now, that's what's 64 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: happening society. Most businesses can get people to come back 65 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: to work. They're making more to stay home. So what 66 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: have a lot of the big boys done. McDonald's, that's 67 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: not Bank of America raised, raised their wages, raise the 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: minimum wage. Bank of America came out, I think this 69 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: week said you know within four years will be an hour. 70 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: You gotta compete, you gotta compromise. That's the way business works. 71 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: You should always be compromising, thinking of ways to get better. 72 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: And I was anti the union on this because I 73 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: thought a boycott didn't serve any purpose. Now, if that 74 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: statement was ultimately to threaten the quote unquote establishment to 75 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: get change, I'll give them credit because it worked. They 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: have created change. But we all compromise every day. If 77 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: you're married, you compromise with your wife all the time. 78 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: If you have children, you compromise with them. Once they 79 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: get of age. You're constantly making some sort of deals 80 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: from where should we each and whether you you get 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: a present, you know, I want a new you know, 82 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: video game system. To compromises you have in your own 83 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, profession, whatever you do like Hey, you know 84 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: we want this contract. We're willing to pay five hundred 85 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Well, it's gonna take six hundred thousand dollars. 86 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: Maybe we've meet in the middle. It's five dred fifty 87 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. We get the deal done. That happens in 88 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: every single industry. So I give the coaches, and I 89 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: think they benefit from having a lot of younger, progressive coaches. 90 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're following the story, but Tony LaRussa, 91 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: who I thought the media overreacted when he was hired. 92 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: They're like, I can't believe the White Sox hired Tony LaRussa. 93 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: You can't. He's one of the greatest managers of all time. 94 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: He's probably forgot more baseball than the managers inside baseball 95 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 1: have ever known or will ever known. His resume speaks 96 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: for itself. He's probably, you know, top hell, he might 97 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: be top three manager of all time. Now, his comments 98 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: on the unwritten rules of baseball as star player swinging 99 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, on a three old pitch and a blog 100 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: game feels a little out of touch. Tony Larusa's aren't 101 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: really into compromises, Neither of or Bill parcels types, but 102 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: for the most part in the NFL, they don't exist anymore. 103 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: They've kind of been weeded out. So you have to 104 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: be open minded because we all benefit. If I'm a coach, 105 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: if I'm a player, if I'm a GM, if I'm 106 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: an owner, for having off seasons, whether that is I 107 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: think the Miami Dolphins, They're only practice will consist of 108 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: you are allowed to wear sandals to ensure that we're 109 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: not going to be doing anything crazy. Two. I saw 110 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: Frank Reich of the Colts said that we've dialed it 111 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: back a lot. Some teams have said we'll do no 112 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: eleven on eleven. I got the email from the forty 113 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: nine ers. Our schedule looks like full go. But maybe 114 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: Kyle is just good with them and they respect him 115 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: and they know that like he's not gonna push him 116 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: too on. I don't know. Every team is a little 117 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: bit different, but it's not abnormal. It's not like you 118 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: should always be trying to grow and adapt and what 119 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: makes you know to figure out what's most successful. Think 120 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: how many people over Corona have realized I know in 121 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: my own business how to be more efficient at their job. 122 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: But I got better. I would imagine most people in 123 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: whatever industry you're in, you're like, yeah, we learned a 124 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: bunch of different stuff. Now we'll see how times change 125 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: and where we go from here. But I bet you adapted. 126 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're forced to adapt, and that's good too, And 127 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: so listen. I'm someone who will always probably I'm typically 128 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: gonna lean with the coaches and gms. That's my background. 129 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: But on this I will give the players credit. If 130 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: ultimately they wanted just to create some change and they didn't, 131 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: their endgame truly wasn't a boycott because the boycott didn't 132 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: happen and they never sniffed a boycott. But depending on 133 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: what team you're on, ot a's are no longer as 134 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: outrageous as they have been because there should not be 135 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: a defensive end over an offensive tackle without pads going 136 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: full go what are we doing here? You can't risk like, 137 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: maybe we could do this in two thousand five, but 138 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: now that pass rusher, if he's Joey Boaster Miles Garrett, 139 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: makes twenty three million dollars a year. My offensive tackle, 140 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: depending on who it is, might if it's Trent Williams, 141 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: might make twenty two million dollars a year that guy's 142 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: too beat valuable of an asset to put in that position. 143 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: But we do need to practice. We do need to 144 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 1: get better. Iron sharpens iron. So we have to find 145 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: a way to practice and improve right. And I think 146 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: during the season is a good example. If you just 147 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: took inventory of every head coach in I would bet 148 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: of the NFL war pads basically sixteen weeks this season, 149 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: right on on their practices Wednesday and Thursday. I bet 150 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: if we pulled coaches now. Now the rules inside the 151 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: c b A you can't, but even if you were 152 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: allowed to, I bet a lot of them would ramp 153 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: it back there. There aren't a lot of teams late 154 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: in the season. No we're pads anymore one. Like I said, 155 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: there are rules against it. But I think coaches have 156 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: realized I don't need to once I get because part 157 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: of like becoming an establishing toughness is with pads in 158 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: training camp. But to be a tough team, you need 159 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: tough guys you can create I don't know if you 160 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: can create toughness, you can improve on toughness, especially if 161 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: you're around other tough players. I do think they can 162 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: elevate guys who are probably somewhere in the middle. But 163 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: it's hard to take a non tough guy and make 164 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: them a tough guy. Right. The reason the Patriots and 165 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: some of these teams over the years of considered the 166 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: Steelers consistently one is they know who they're looking for 167 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: in the scouting process, but part of that is developing 168 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: them in the off season. For a split second, it 169 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: looks like a reason's not gonna have off seasons moving forward, 170 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: and that didn't happen, and we're all gonna benefit because 171 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: part of football, unlike basketball, where you can play five 172 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: on five year round, there are legendary games that go 173 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: on Los Angeles full of pros. They can just play 174 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: full on five and five. Is it the same as 175 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: like an NBA game? Probably not? But can you get 176 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: legit reps? If you're just going the guy you're checking 177 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: as an NBA All Star and you're a backup in 178 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: the NBA, how does that not improve you? Right Where 179 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: when you're with your teammates and you're going up against 180 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, your Pro Bowl cornerback, if you're a third 181 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver, you get better that way, even if it 182 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: is just work on your technique, work on the mental aspect, 183 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: of stuff that's, you know, just a reality of what 184 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: you're dealing with here. It's hard to duplicate that at 185 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: some random training facility in Florida or Texas when none 186 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: of your teammates are around. So I give the NFL credit, 187 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: the players union credits the coaches credit for doing what 188 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: we all do, compromise. If you're not willing to compromise 189 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: in life, you're gonna have a short shelf life in 190 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: whatever you're doing. Like I said, whether that's if you're 191 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: not compromising with your wife or your girlfriend, that relationship 192 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: is not gonna go along. If you don't compromise in 193 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: the business world, you're probably not locking down too many deals. 194 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: And if you're not willing to compromise. In two thousand one, 195 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to pro sports, the world's changed. The 196 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: Tony Larussa's like him button heads over. This three oh 197 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: home run feels a little outdated, Like Tony, let it go, buddy, 198 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: it's he hit it far, it's one of your best players. 199 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: Embrace it. Even if you're not gonna embrace it, stop 200 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: freaking talking about it. Fox Sports Radio has the best 201 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 202 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the 203 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 204 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: I saw another headline this week that caught my attention 205 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: and just got me thinking, because I don't know how 206 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: I hear someone say this name, Michael Crabtree's name somehow 207 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: came up, and I really I started thinking, like, I 208 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: remember when he held out. I think he missed several 209 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: games his rookie year. And think about not that long 210 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: ago rookies, and I'm not just talking the number one 211 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: overall pick, but first round players would hold out because 212 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: they were negotiating for enormous contracts. And remember in the 213 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: two thousand's, Belichick would never, ever, like a couple of times, 214 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: he would always try to trade back because he never 215 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: now granted they were always winning, but he never wanted 216 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: to have one of those powerful rookie contracts because he 217 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: was bringing in a guy into his locker room if 218 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: he traded up to get someone like twelve who was 219 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: making more money than the majority of their team. And 220 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: the headline I saw this week, maybe on my Twitter 221 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: timeline or Pro Football Talk, that over half the rookies, 222 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we're not even that June one have already signed, 223 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: and that's the entire draft class. But as we know, 224 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: it's an outlier situation now when a first round pick 225 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: is not there for day one at training camp, let 226 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: alone misses anytime. That is unheard of under the new 227 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: CBA agreement that started in two thousand eleven and has 228 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: moved forward because it's slotted all the guys. And I 229 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: was just thinking, like, what a great move, and think 230 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: how crazy it was once upon a time, and clearly 231 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: the players Union fought for this is to have these players. 232 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: Remember Sam Bradford and Matt Stafford and the Dominican Sue 233 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan, and some of these contracts that the 234 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: top five guys would get, and some of them lived 235 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: up to him, a lot of them didn't. And they 236 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: would sign these thirty forty fifty million dollar deals back 237 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: when that was a lot of money. Before the slotting happening, 238 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: guys would fight for a ton of cash. Remember JaMarcus 239 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: Russell held out forever. Al Davis didn't even have the 240 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: cash to spend pay him. But think how nuts it 241 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: was that you had to pay this guy like top 242 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: of the market money. Think how much healthier the league 243 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: is now, even when you have a bust in the 244 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: first round, or even a guy that, let's even say 245 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: a non bust, but just a guy that never lived 246 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: up to the contract. But as an NFL player like 247 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas, a Mr Rubinsky back in the day, Mr 248 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: Bisky was, I wouldn't say a disaster. He started a 249 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: bunch of games for the Bears. Disaster in the sense 250 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: that when you draft a guy number two overall, you 251 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: do not want to be whisky. But to me, a 252 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: bust is a guy that can't play dead into Westward. 253 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: That was not him. He was just a very, very 254 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: flawed player. You know, he's probably a good backup five 255 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: six million dollar player. Maybe he can resurrect his career, 256 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: we'll see. But fifteen years ago, instead of Mitch being 257 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: on a contract that pays him five six million dollars 258 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: a year, whatever the equivalent is now is probably he's 259 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: making like fifty million dollars. Think of the one of 260 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: the greatest assets you can have right now, And we 261 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: talked about it all the time, Josh Allen, Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, 262 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: right now, all the dudes that were just drafted in 263 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: this class, right Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, 264 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: and Mac Jones. If three or five of those guys 265 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: are good, the number one thing will say about them all, 266 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: beside them being good players, is how great their contract 267 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: is and how you can cook the books on your 268 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: team because you can. Instead of having a thirty million 269 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: dollar quarterback, you've got a guy making five, six, seven, 270 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: four or three however much depending on where you were drafted, 271 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: you're making. It's incredible contract relative to the salary camp. 272 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: And I was just it got me thinking, like how 273 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: stupid was that we all lived through it? I mean back, 274 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: I was like in college when these holdouts used to happen, 275 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: we alsopel, what the hell is going on? I understand 276 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: where the team was like, I don't want to pay 277 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: this guy seventy five million dollars. I don't want to 278 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: give him the biggest signing bonus in the history of 279 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: my franchise. At least, when you sign a free agent 280 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: and you know, not a they don't all work. You're 281 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: at least paying a guy who has a resume in 282 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: the National Football League now ideally good contracts. You're paying 283 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: a guy for what he's gonna do moving forward, not 284 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: what he did in the past. Think about like the 285 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: Angels with Pools one of the worst contracts of all 286 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: time because they paid him on what he did in 287 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: the past and then he couldn't live up to it. Right, 288 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: But when you buy a guy like Bryce Harper and 289 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: Mike Trout, like if they keep producing even on their 290 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: max contract, you feel pretty good about it. But the 291 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: reason they get Mike Trout got like four or a 292 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: million dollars, or Mookie Betts or the dude Lindoor or 293 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: some of these guys, right, Aaron Rodgers, these guys that 294 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: signed big contracts Russell Wilson in the NFL, it's based 295 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: on what they've done in the league. Now, whether they 296 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: maintain and sustain living up to that money, only time 297 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: will tell you that. But you at least sleep better, 298 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: Like when you've quote even paying Dak Prescott, who I 299 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: do not love paying Dak Prescott forty million dollars a year, 300 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: but I know for a fact that I can win 301 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: games with Dak Prescott and then he can play at 302 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: a pretty damn high level in the league. Now is 303 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: it forty million? We can nitpick the money, but I 304 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: know I'm getting a high end, you know, top twelve 305 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: starting quarterback in the league. Ideally you want to pay 306 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: them the homes the Russell's Aaron Rodgers don't even lose 307 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: a minute of sleep. Could you go, I'm winning big 308 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: with this guy. I want This guy never wanted to leave. 309 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: Can you imagine that some of the contracts that used 310 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: to get handed out to rookies and basketball used to 311 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: be like this too. I remember growing up, but football 312 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: was really really bad up until two thousand eleven. And 313 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: remember part of I mean, I lived it, even though 314 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: I I mean, I was the lowest guy in the 315 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: totem pole didn't quite know what was going on. But 316 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: it was not a strike, it was a lockout. It 317 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: was terrible for business, and it has benefited everyone. Right. 318 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: It's it was not a benefit to the players because 319 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: most of the players in the league at a given 320 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: time are not gonna be top fifteen picks. Look like, 321 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: we always talked about the reason for the compromise because 322 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: most of the league is gonna be second, third, fourth 323 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: round picks contracts with not that much guaranteed money. Yet 324 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: these guys that they're immediately better than majority of them, right, 325 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of them of first round picks don't 326 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: even become good players getting an astronomical amount of money. 327 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: Think how much that limited teams. So it is crazy, 328 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: and it's just the league the players deserve credit to 329 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: because they had to sign off on everyone just got 330 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: more efficient. Because we should never be at a point 331 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: where a rookie is not just immediately slided, he doesn't 332 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: immediately show up. Think about most of your jobs right 333 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: when you graduate college, Like, there's not that much negotiation, 334 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: even for a guy this draft, Trevor Lawrence, who's number 335 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: one overall elite out there shouldn't be that much negotiation. 336 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: Here's your contract, here's the number, here's the slot. Signed 337 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: it less, rock and roll. What what's your leverage? Right? Well, 338 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: I made seven probe no never played a snap. You 339 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: know you didn't. We're offering you an astronomical amount of 340 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: money based on what previous guys have made in the 341 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: last three or four years at this slot. It goes 342 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 1: up a certain amount of percentages every year. Let's rock 343 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: and roll. We don't get any holdouts. Besides, like ro 344 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Quan Smith, remember something about remember the penalties with leading 345 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: with your helmet if you missed a game a game check. 346 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: It was something really really uh like in the nitty 347 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: gritty of a contract which turned out to be stupid. 348 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: It hasn't been an issue at all. But to me, 349 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: he's the only guy I can remember of recent memory 350 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: that there's been any issue in train again, most guys 351 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: Day one of training camp, rookies all there. Like I said, 352 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: fans benefit, teams benefit, players benefit, the whole league benefits. 353 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: They got this one right. It feels like the news 354 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: of the day, the news of the you know, Thursday, Friday, 355 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: head none to the weekend. In a weird way, it's 356 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: felt like a foregone conclusion, even though nothing officially happened. 357 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: Tebow finally officially signed, and we've been talking about this 358 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: now for a couple of weeks. I've obviously said my 359 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: opinion on just how I don't think it's that relevant. 360 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: I think people overreacting to bring him to camp. Ninety 361 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: guys go to training camp. If you ever have the 362 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to go to training camp, beside the starting unit, 363 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: you probably aren't gonna know most of the backups, let 364 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: alone the third stringers. It to me, my overall opinion 365 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: on the signing is kind of whatever. Now I do 366 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: understand Urban Meyer. Is he doing his guy a favor whatever, 367 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: But but overall, I think it has no impact, especially 368 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: on a losing team. If a good team the Steelers Seattle, 369 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's a team that has a long history 370 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: of winning Baltimore, I'd be like, Yeah, it's kind of weird. 371 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: Why the hell are they doing that? Hint they wouldn't. 372 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: But the Jags, I think it makes some sense. I've 373 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: kind of come to this conclusion. I think there's a chance. Now. 374 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna claim that Urban isn't the driving force 375 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: and wasn't open minded and okay with having him on 376 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: the team, But I would imagine that Urban sat down 377 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: with the owner, and the owner might have not obviously 378 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: facilitated because he has to sign off on anything that 379 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: any player you signed, but was behind it and might 380 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: have pushed this over the finish line. The Jacksonville Jags, 381 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, the most irrelevant team in sports, 382 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: but that's impossible because the NFL is infinitely more popular 383 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: right now than the other two sports. So who is 384 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: the most irrelevant team. Let's say, in like the NBA 385 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: or baseball, the Jags are a bigger deal, but in 386 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: terms of football and in terms of the country club, 387 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: that shod is in with the other thirty two and 388 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: then there's really more than that because they're my minority owners. 389 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: But with all the other billionaires associated with the NFL, 390 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: his property is the most irrelevant. Right. They have been 391 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: consistently the shittiest. Their market is. I don't know if 392 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: it's technically it's not smaller in Green Bay or whatever, 393 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: but obviously the packers are. You know, on their worst day, 394 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: the Jaguars would sign up for that. So when you 395 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: factor in smaller market, uh, you factor in they never win. 396 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean they always look A many times they've drafted 397 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: in not in the top ten, but the top five 398 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: over the last decade. So they had the one offseason 399 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: where they made the championship game. But other than that, 400 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: like there where players go to eventually demand to get 401 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: traded or leave, it's it's a long history and you 402 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: want some positive bus hell. You just want some buzz 403 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence is not some polarizing figure or even 404 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: some guy who's gonna get in front of a mic 405 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: and just kind of move the needle. I don't ever 406 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: remember really here in Trevor Lawrence talk urban is But 407 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: what can he really say until they start playing games. 408 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: I think Tebow and I saw schefter instagram a visual 409 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: of Tebow who's wearing eight five because he's playing tight end, 410 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: and his jersey was like the number one selling jersey 411 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours. I can't believe someone would 412 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: pay a d twenty dollars for tebow jersey, but I 413 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: think a lot of people in Florida would say, Hell yeah, 414 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: I would. He's my favorite player ever. Because the University 415 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: of Florida's I don't really geographically, I don't have a 416 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: great feel for Florida beside Miami. It's at the South Tip, 417 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: but clearly there are gonna be a lot of Florida 418 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: fans in that state, and probably in the Jacksonville region. 419 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: Isn't the largest cocktail party in the world. Happened Jacksonville, 420 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: Florida verse Georgia. That's the game, and he's one of 421 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: the most popular players in the history of college sports, 422 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: let alone that little region where college football reigns supreme. 423 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: If I was in shod Conceit and urban Meyer's like, 424 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: what do you think? Like, you know, I'm not expecting 425 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: much out of this. Do I want the hoop law 426 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: and all that comes? He really wants to be on 427 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: the team. We don't have anything to lose. If I 428 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: was shot con, I would say Urban, I don't not 429 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: only think that's a good idea, I think we should 430 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: do that. It gets our name in the headline. More 431 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: love it or hate it. You got people talking about 432 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: the Jacks. I've talked more about the Jacks in the 433 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: last four months than I have for five years, easily, 434 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: even the year they won. It is like whatever you 435 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: know that Blake Bortles right, they had some sweet defensive players. 436 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: I like Malik Jackson obviously, Jalen Ramsey was sweet, Yannick 437 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: and dock Way. They had really good players, but they're 438 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: not on a national show. And definitely, I'm someone that 439 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: lives on the West Coast, like I lean some of 440 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: the bigger brands. I'm never talking about that franchise. I 441 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: talked about him on my podcast earlier this week when 442 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: Urban moved travesy t N. Obviously Urban is just a 443 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: guy that's gonna be people are gonna have an opinion on. 444 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: But Tebow definitely is going to be that player. And 445 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't it good or bad. Who cares what they're 446 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: saying as long as they're talking about you? What what? 447 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: What's the famous line, There's no such thing as bad publicity, 448 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: there's just publicity. I think it kind of rings true, 449 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: Like what is publicity? What does that even mean anymore? 450 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: Like the segmented nature of the way we talk about 451 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: stuff people on Twitter, people on Facebook, people on social media. 452 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: You just want people talking about you. You know that 453 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: the franchise back to the original point, couldn't be any 454 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: more irrelevant now to me, you would have like a 455 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: strong opinion if they had given them five million dollars 456 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: or something outrageous they've done. They didn't guarantee a penny. 457 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: They could cut them tomorrow. To me, it's one of 458 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: the most overhyped just people acting super fired up, because 459 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: how could you be that fired up? How could you 460 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: care that much? It really does not matter now if 461 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: some of the players on the team had a strong 462 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: opinion about it and voice it some of the coaches, 463 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: which they wouldn't because Urban would fire them. But if 464 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: it gets out anonymous players, anonymous coaches, then we'll have 465 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: a thing. I know there was a story that some 466 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: anonymous coaches on the staff or anti doing it, like 467 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: would you have the balls? You're one of Urban Meyer 468 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: telling reporters like you're not on board, especially when you 469 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: know which way is trending. I doubt it. I I 470 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: don't think that's possible. You'd have to be an idiot 471 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: to risk that. Now. You could argue some of the 472 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: assistance now makes so much money and they're already so rich, 473 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: who cares your opinion is getting out no matter what. 474 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: But that's not usually the way the NFL works, So 475 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of an overreaction night. 476 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 1: My gut says that while Urban you know Tebow are 477 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: clearly their relationship is well documented. It wouldn't shock me 478 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: at all if the owner of this franchise, who is 479 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: a great businessman and has been a terrible, terrible NFL owner, 480 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: terrible sports owner. I mean, he's right now easily one 481 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: of the worst its owners in all of baseball, basketball, football, 482 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: people of d M me before his European soccer teams 483 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: are a joke. He's back great businessman, awful owner that 484 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: just wants to get something positive or just people talking 485 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: about his franchise and clearly at work. I saw Bruce 486 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: arians say that he is in no rush to retire, 487 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: that he's loving what he's doing and everything's going really well. 488 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: And I thought about this. We have seen so many 489 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: instances the last several years of teams hiring the wrong coach. 490 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: We're just a team hiring a coach who's not good, 491 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: and that team, regardless what players are on it immediately fail. 492 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: We know now, it's not that you don't even need 493 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: an opinion on this, it's fact you cannot win in 494 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: the NFL without a good coach consistently. It's impossible. And 495 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: Bruce arians like, is he a top two or three coach? 496 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's clearly on the upper echelon 497 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: of coaches. It took him a long time to get hired, right. 498 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: He didn't get hired to the Arizona Cardinals job till 499 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: I think, you know, early sixties right now, mid to 500 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: late sixties. So he did not get his shot despite 501 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: coaching forever that. He was a head coach in the 502 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: eighties at Temple, and then he had to be an 503 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: assistant coach for a long time in the NFL and 504 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: had a lot of success. But but even the Steelers, 505 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: where he was the offensive coordinator, the Rooneys were so 506 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: old school they hated how often he passed and they 507 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: essentially fired him. Right, but it's been proven when Bruce 508 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: arians is your head coach, your team is gonna be good. 509 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: And if you get the right quarterback or like Carson Palmer, 510 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: you stay healthy, you're gonna be a factor in the playoffs, 511 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a chance to win a super Bowl. 512 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: And last year the Tampa Bay Buccaneers won a Super Bowl. 513 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: But if Tom Brady would have ended up on a 514 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: team with an average head coach, because remember his options 515 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: were somewhat limited when he left New England once he decided, 516 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: like Bill Robert Kraft, i am not going to be 517 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback of the Patriots. And thinking back, if I 518 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: would have told Patriot fans, you know, should you have 519 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: just kept him two years? Fifty million dollars and listen, 520 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: we've gone over this a million times, whether he would 521 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: have stayed, whether Belichick even wanted him back, whether it 522 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: was just time he'd given him twenty plus years, they 523 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: had won six super Bowls, he'd given him a ton 524 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: of a discount. Sometimes in life is time to just 525 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: go your separate ways. That's a healthy thing to do. 526 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: Like sometimes I think divorce has this negative connotation. Every 527 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: single person I know that have been divorced. They're always happy. 528 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: They're always a dramatically happier than they were pre divorced, 529 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: every fucking single one of them. And now, in my 530 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: mid thirties, I know several people that are my age 531 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: who divorce and they're happy. I said, thank god, I'm 532 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: not married to her anymore. And I'm sure I don't 533 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: know not friends with that many women who I'm sure 534 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: they could say the same things. Right, I'm glad I 535 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: kicked him to the curb. It goes both ways. Now, 536 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: is Belichick super happy? We'll find out if mac Jones 537 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: is good. But last year Cam Newton like, sure as hell, 538 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: wasn't tom Brady? But tom Brady benefited because the nine 539 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: or last year said no, and it was like where 540 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: are his options? And I remember, I'll give Florio some 541 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: credit on this one. He's like, I don't see the 542 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: options for Tom Brady who was taking Tom Brady? And 543 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: there was like would the Raiders take him? And Gruden 544 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: was like, you know, Derek's cheaper. Even if the Raiders 545 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: had taken him, which it kind of felt like was 546 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: an option, would that have been a good fit for Tom? Like? 547 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: Are we even sure John's good. Like what there was 548 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: part of Tom winning like one things Tom's had now 549 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: all those years in New England and the one year 550 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: in Tampa. Good coach. At this point in time, Tom 551 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: could probably overcome an average coach, but he would not 552 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: have one big without a big time coach, like they 553 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. Part of what Arians brings to 554 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: the table is Todd Bowles. Todd Bowls is Arians, dude. 555 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: Why because he coached him at Temple. They've known each 556 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: other for thirty five years, Like their relationship is long standing, right, 557 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: he brought Todd to Arizona boom, Todd gets fired from 558 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: the Jets, brings him to Tampa. And we all know 559 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: a big reason Tampa kicked the crap out of the 560 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: Chiefs was the defense. Their defense is elite. Todd Bowles's 561 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: top two or three defensive coordinator in the league. So 562 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: sometimes we talk about a relationship. Clearly, the Bucks need 563 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: an upgraded quarterback. But Tom just couldn't go to you know, 564 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: some random team with some random coach and just expect 565 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: to win. That would not have happened. Hell, if Tom 566 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: would have gone to San Francisco last year. Even though 567 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: I think Kyle is really good. They had so many injuries, 568 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: he ain't gonna win the Super Bowl. They would not 569 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: have won the Super Bowl with Tom Brady because Tampa 570 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: just has much better players once you factor and all 571 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: the guys that got hurt. So it just sometimes relationships 572 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: like our mutually beneficial we always act. I'll never forget. 573 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: We had Prague Murte, who is the contract negotiator on 574 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: for the forty Niners, on my other podcast, Haybroom Middle Cuff. 575 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: Check it out. You can find it on YouTube as well, 576 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: and he told us and listen, sometimes you know, I 577 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: ge ms and personnel will say things because it sounds good. 578 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: But I do believe him, and I do think a 579 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: lot of people in the NFL say this, And I 580 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: would imagine a lot of fans like, yeah, he's lying. 581 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: He said, you never want to do a deal where 582 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: you don't feel like it's a win win, you don't 583 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: want it like sometimes and listen, I'm guilty of this, 584 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: but fans and people in my shoes will be like, oh, 585 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: they fleece them. It happens a lot in like baseball 586 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: and basketball. It happens occasionally in football, but for the 587 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: most part, like in basketball, whenever you trade for James 588 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: Harden is like, oh, we fleece the Rockets. You know 589 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 1: that we fleece the Hornets to get Anthony Davis. Right, 590 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: Billy Bean and his crew have been fleecing other gms 591 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: for decades. Right, But I wouldn't even imagine if you 592 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: asked Billy Bean, like, We're not trying to screw over anyone. 593 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: We're trying to do a legitimate deal. What you think 594 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: is fair and what I think is fair, because ultimately 595 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: you have to get people to say yes, I'll do 596 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: the deal. And Billy you know, my first year doing 597 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: a host in the radio show Bill, he traded Josh Donaldson. 598 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: Next year the dude won the MVP for the Blue Jays. 599 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: That was nail for Billy. So it's not like anyone's perfect. 600 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: But I think ideally, and I think about this often, 601 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, when I'm looking in the real estate market 602 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: for Arizona, going back and forth, like, am I too 603 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: obsessed with finding the right deal? Is okay to overpay 604 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: for a little bit? Obviously there are a lot of 605 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: factors like the economy crash or the economy gett a boom, 606 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: who knows, But you gotta think about this like, are 607 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: you always trying to win a deal? Think about this 608 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: when I you know, invest in stocks, Like, if it 609 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: doesn't go up within a couple of months, it's okay. 610 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: If you lose for a little while, it's okay. Take 611 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: a deep breath. You have to be patient, you have 612 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: to be okay. You're gonna win something, You're gonna lose 613 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 1: some Just try to do deals that you think are 614 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: gonna work. Right. And Tom got a little lucky because 615 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: his options were a little limited that the Bucks had 616 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: a really good coaching staff, because you could argue just 617 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: the roster alone was worth obviously Tom to go to 618 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: two years fifty million, but he benefited a lot did 619 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: Arians could pitulated and they got on the same page 620 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: as the season went on. But really the defense was fantastic. 621 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: And a big reason the defense was fantastic was because 622 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: Arians Bowls is Arians, Like, that's the package deal, you know, 623 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 1: And Tom's gonna benefit it again this year because you know, 624 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: just because I think it's so fresh, Todd out of 625 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: New York, He's probably get another head coaching job. But 626 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: they bring back the whole coaching staff. They not only 627 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: bring back the whole team, they bring back the whole 628 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: coaching staff, which we know is big time, like left 629 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: which and Todd Bowles left which will be a head 630 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: coach in the league, and Todd Bowl is more than 631 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: likely is gonna get another shot in the NFL. I 632 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: feel really confident about that. I think New York is 633 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: really bad fit. And listen, I don't know. I like Todd. 634 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: He was always cool to me. I don't know if 635 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: he's actually a head coach, but you know, his resume 636 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be so good as a coordinated especially they 637 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: went like back to back Super Bowl is just gonna 638 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: get another shot. His personality is he's just a little quieter. 639 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: He's not Mr Media, which I think sometimes we make 640 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: too much of that, but as a head coach, you 641 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: do like one of Bruce Arians. You know. The attributes 642 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: is he can hold down a press conference. You know, 643 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: he's very comfortable in that, and like he'd be a 644 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: great podcaster. He likes to talk. You know, he's a talker. 645 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes when you're not a talker, we don't give you 646 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: the benefit of doubt. We don't give you if you 647 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: don't have equity. Belichick doesn't talk, No one cares. He wins, 648 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: has all these rinks. But before I was you know, 649 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, that was like, people talked 650 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of shit about Belichick that he couldn't handle 651 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: a press conference in Cleveland because his personality is terrible. 652 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: But no one cares about your personality once you start winning. 653 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: But when you're when you have you know, nothing to 654 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: base it off of, we kind of judge you higher. 655 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: That's why Arians, I think, got the benefit of doubt. 656 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: Originally it's put in front of press conference that kicks ass. 657 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: When guys are bad at press conferences and you haven't 658 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: done anything or you're not winning, we immediately sell you 659 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: down the river. We think you stink. So I don't 660 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: blame Arians. I wouldn't go anywhere either with that team. 661 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: But I think it's been one of the more under 662 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: We don't talk about it a lot because Belichick and Brady, well, 663 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: I think Belichick Arians or excuse me, Arians, Brady and 664 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 1: even you can throw in bowls. Has been a pretty 665 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: damn healthy relationship and has been pretty you know, mutually 666 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: beneficial for just some high level guys. Obviously Tom the 667 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: highest given his resume, but the other two guys a 668 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: pretty big time too. The other two guys know what 669 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: they're doing and that's why they I think it's fair 670 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: to say are the favorites definitely in the NFC. We'll 671 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: see how the Chiefs offensive line comes together. I think 672 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: they're very bullish on it. But you know that the 673 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: two teams that were in the Super Bowl are the 674 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: clear favorites to be in the super Bowl again, as 675 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: they should be. Okay, let's go Middlecoff mail bag at 676 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram handle. The direct messages are 677 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: wide open, unlike the Fairways of Kiowa. So you just 678 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: got a lot of lame fire fire on in those 679 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: d m s and get your questions answered here on 680 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: the show, Jack. Why did the Niners cut markis Lee? 681 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if we talked about this last week, 682 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: but one thing that happened during rookie minicamps is you 683 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: were limited on the amount of people you could bring 684 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: in in terms of like undrafted free agents. So what 685 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: some teams did. The Niners are an example of this. 686 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: The Giants, I know, are example of this. They brought 687 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: in veteran players on a tryout basis. The Giants I 688 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: think brought in uh. I wanted to say Devin Funches, 689 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: But I think that's the wrong guy, Kelvin Benjamin. I 690 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: get Devin Funches and Kelvin Benjamin mixed up. They brought 691 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: in Kelvin Benjamin. The Niners brought in markets Lee. You 692 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: basically give him a workout and to sign them, you know, 693 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: they clearly must have had a solid workout. But Market's Lee. 694 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 1: It's not like they signed him to make the team. 695 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: And I saw today that they signed Benny Fowler. So yeah, 696 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you just when you sign these these contracts 697 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: as an older veteran player with no guaranteed money, your 698 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: position to any moment could be taken away. It really 699 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: is what makes you know the NFL is so unique, 700 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: is most these contracts. You just it's not set in stone. 701 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: Appreciate the pot is A long time Pats fan. I 702 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: wonder if a trade package around Gilmore and draft picks 703 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: for Julio Jones would put us back in contention the 704 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: a f C East. It makes sense from Atlanta's point 705 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: of view, as they need cornerback help and the Patriots 706 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: would give mac Jones the ultimate weapons, good running back room, 707 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: solid o line three weapons, tight ends and the Paths 708 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: would have recently only really drafted cornerbacks. Well, so I 709 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: find finding a replacement. Yeah, I don't. I don't think 710 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: that's crazy. I mean I I would definitely think about 711 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: doing that. If I was the Falcons, I would imagine 712 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: the Patriots are very, very interested in Julio Jones. The 713 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: problem with Julio is a little bit. You know, the 714 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 1: money is complicated for some of these teams because technically, 715 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: if I think if he gets traded after June one 716 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: is a fifteen million dollars, which isn't that much money 717 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: in free a agency. This is what I never understand 718 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: when you're gonna trade a player, trade him when his 719 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: value in free agency, when teams have a bunch of 720 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: cap space, they one hundred million percent could have got 721 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: like a second round pick for Julio Jones. In free 722 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: agency when teams had unlimited cap space, there were a 723 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: ton of teams with a lot of space. Instead, they wait, Like, clearly, 724 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: these rumors have been going on for a while. Why 725 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 1: didn't they pull the trigger in the middle of March, 726 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: especially when you know you the fourth overall pick and 727 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get Kyle Pitts worst case scenario, just 728 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: draft to bar Chase. There. I don't get it. Some 729 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: of these teams instead of being proactive, they're reactive now 730 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: if they end up getting the second round pick. But 731 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: maybe you could have got more like a second and fourth. 732 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you would have had a 733 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: bidding war. I just stumbled across your profile and saw 734 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: that you were scouted for the Eagles. I'm actually a 735 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: huge Eagles fan and I'm wanting to go into sports 736 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: management in the future, if you don't mind, I was 737 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: just wondering how you got into the field, the best 738 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: way to gain experience. I'm double majoring, so this is 739 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: clearly not a Instagram question. Uh. I'll answer that guy manually. 740 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: Most of you guys listening, if probably heard the story, 741 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: don't need to rehash middle Coff's ascension in college football 742 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: to the pros, to radio, to fire it in multiple 743 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: places to now podcaster Hey John, any thoughts on the 744 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:27,919 Speaker 1: whole Qualmie Brown situation. Typically I hate stories like this. Uh, 745 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, I would never have followed it, but I've 746 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: clicked on Collambi Brown a couple of times. I don't 747 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: know if I'd be messing with Colambie Brown. So I'm 748 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: on team Kwamie. You know. Just I got no problem. 749 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: People are gonna talk about you. Tucked it back. You 750 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: know if if a bunch of guys are gonna keep 751 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: ripping you, this is There's a million different platforms. Go 752 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: on Instagram, go on YouTube, and I do think Kwamie 753 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: Brown is talked about like JaMarcus Russell, where when you Google, 754 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: you're like, damn. He had a twelve year NBA career. 755 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: He made sixty five million dollars. If you would have 756 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: asked me before this whole thing broke out with him 757 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: going after basically everyone who's ever said a word about him, 758 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: how many years did Kwamie Brown play in the NBA, 759 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: I would have said five. He played twelve. I don't 760 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: think he's as bad as the perception is about him, 761 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: and clearly he's not happy, and I don't blame him. 762 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: I saw someone on the internet said that like, he's 763 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: got kind of a crazy family, so I would be 764 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: careful messing with him. I've got a mate from Australia 765 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: on the International Player Pathway program with the Eagles. Four 766 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: selected teams are allowed an extra roster spot for an 767 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: International Pathway player. We talked about this last I think 768 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: either Tuesday or last week with international players. I didn't 769 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: know much about this pathway. But clearly as a thing 770 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: guaranteed to your contract on the practice squad can be 771 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: elevated at any time to playing on the roster. Guaranteed 772 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: two years contract, that's pretty good deal. I did not 773 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 1: know about these guys. I know the Eagles, I mean 774 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: I think, I guess I knew they had that guy 775 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: from Australia. The was a rugby player and they taught 776 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: to play offensive line. I didn't know he went through 777 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: the pathway. I thought they just found him like on 778 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: rugby film. But yeah, I mean I when I my 779 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: first couple of years, I was a pro scout and 780 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: I used to watch like uh, I forget what the 781 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: league was called, the UFL. Remember the Sacramento had a team, 782 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: Nebraska had a team. I think there was a team 783 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: in Texas. There was a team I think in Florida. 784 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: Whatever leagues are going, you watch. I also, my second 785 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: year was pretty involved in looking at college basketball and 786 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: a different undersized power forwards that might project either defensive 787 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: end or tight end, guys that had a football background. 788 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: I used some of my NBA contacts. I remember back 789 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: then I had a buddy who was an NBA scout, 790 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: and he just went. He would mark down guys that 791 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: he thought were like not gonna be NBA or even 792 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: international players. They were like six four power forwards, you know, 793 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: at random Division one schools and he's like, I think 794 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: this guy, could you know an NFL player? That was 795 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: actually something I met through. I met a scout through 796 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: Guy Haberman, who did the other podcast with who was 797 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: College Basketball Games, who still does for years. In college, 798 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: you just get to meet scouts and then I got 799 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: to meet him, and you just kind of create this other, 800 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: you know, kind of web of knowledge that kind of 801 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: helped me out and I was able to do. We 802 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: didn't end up signing any of them, but we definitely 803 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: looked at him. Yeah, the CFL was I had the 804 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: CFL one year. Actually flew to BC Vancouver. That place 805 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: is bad ass. I went to Whistler one time in 806 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: college to go skiing. I think it's the last time 807 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: I skied in my life. That was probably fifteen years ago. 808 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: I think I got and I got a torn m 809 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: c L, so I probably my knee would go. But uh, 810 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: when we went skiing and Whistler, it was like early 811 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: on in December so there wasn't any snow was actually 812 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: pretty shitty. It wasn't very good. But when I went 813 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 1: back for the scouting, Whistle was sweet. I mean, the parties, 814 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: the nightlife, it was badass. But when I went back 815 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: Vancouver to go to the BC Lions game and scout 816 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: this defensive lineman who we tried to sign, who ended 817 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: up staying back, they gave a big rays. I remember 818 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: thinking Vancouver is bad ass. That city is sweet. I've 819 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: had buddies that have gone to Toronto. I've always had 820 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: a good things about Toronto. I've never been, but the 821 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,439 Speaker 1: one time I went to Vancouver. If you're ever thinking 822 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: about it, Pacific Northwestern in that area, I want to 823 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: go to Vancouver. I would recommend Whistler too, if you're 824 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 1: into snow and skiing and stuff. Same with the summer. 825 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: It's probably sweet too. Whistler Vancouver badass. Been to both 826 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: once that both were sweet. That'll do it. Have a 827 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: great weekend, Um, yeah, have a good weekend. Audios