1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone. It is the local Toy Dealers KSR postgame show. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: It's late at night and it's a grumpy night around 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: the Big Blue Nation. We'll open up the phones. Uh, 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. In a long day, 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: so it's probably not gonna be the longest postgame ever. 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Excuse me, and I want to hear from you all 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: eight five ' nine two eight zho twenty two eighty seven. 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have frustration, so feel free to call 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: an air it. I think this may have been the 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the worst loss of the Stoops 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: ere I actually think that was two years ago to Vandy, 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: because I think that Vandy team two years ago wasn't 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: even good and this one is at least decent. But 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: I do think this is in terms of it's sort 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: of a culmination of a series of problems that we've 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: seen with Stoops teams for thirteen years. I think sort 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: of tonight was probably the worst performance wise that a 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: Stoops team has played. And the three things that I 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: think are the biggest problems with Stoops they all reared 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: themselves in this game. Number one is end of half. 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like We've talked about this on 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: this show twenty five times, but end of half management 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: it was it was awful. I mean I could break 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: down play by play where I think they screwed up. 25 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you start with the fact that you want 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: to clearly they wanted to do a drive at the 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: end of the first half, and you just let them 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: run thirty seconds off the clock without calling a timeout. 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: So if you didn't want to have a drive, you 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,639 Speaker 1: screwed it up. But then when you got the ball 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: instead of as I thought the announcers, who did a 32 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: very good job tonight, Tom and Jordan Rodgers noted like, 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: instead of running the ball, which you're able to do 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: because of the new two minute warning, they throw it 35 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: three times. They make throws that are difficult throws. They 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: need at least one completion to require Vandy to call timeouts, 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: they don't get them, and they end up giving Vandy 38 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: the ball still though you get him in a third 39 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: and long and you have a chance to hold him 40 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: to a field goal, and you give up a twenty 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: two yard touchdown, which is you know, you just can't 42 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: have a worse result, and it's the difference in the game. Honestly, 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: honestly the end of the first half. And it's even 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: especially bad because they get the first ball in the 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: second half so consistently. During the Stoops era, clock management 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: and specifically end of the first half management has been 47 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: pretty much atrocious his entire time here. I think he 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: has a lot of strengths as a coach, but I 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: think he is just really really bad at clock management, 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: and it's never it's not gotten better during those during 51 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: these years. The second thing is disciplined, and well, actually, 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: let's say the second thing is penalties, which is kind 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: of an offset of discipline, but eleven penalties over one 54 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: hundred yards, As Tom Leech pointed out in his comments 55 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: when he was talking to Stoops, it's actually more than 56 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: one hundred yards when you consider the In the NFL, 57 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: oftentimes they'll they'll show you how long the play would 58 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: have been without the penalty. If you did that. For Kentucky, 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: it's probably one hundred and fifty to one hundred and 60 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: sixty yards in penalties. The offensive line, you know, I 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: sort of feel bad for Mensi and Cox because they're 62 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: just not good enough. And I clearly Kentucky doesn't feel 63 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: like they have other options because I mean the coaches 64 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: see that too. Between the two of them, five holding penalties, 65 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: five three of which were backbreaker penalties where if they 66 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: don't get the hold, it's a big play and just 67 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: just terrible penalties and they just get beat consistently. And 68 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: I you know, there's an old saying in foot, well 69 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: you could call a hold on every play. That's probably true, 70 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: but I'll be honest with you, they could call twice, 71 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: two times or three times as many on those guys. 72 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: They're just I think in Cox's case it's injury. I 73 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: feel bad for him, honestly. I think he's not really 74 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: healthy and doesn't have a lot of movement, but he 75 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: has to play, and then Menci has it's been an 76 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: issue since he's been here, So I mean, you just 77 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: I think Bush Hampden is sort of limited as a 78 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: play caller because he can't keep Brock in the pocket. 79 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: Brock has to roll around. He's not really great throwing 80 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: on the run, so and even when he rolls around, 81 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: there's a decent chance there's gonna be a hole because 82 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: they can't keep up with their men. So it's just 83 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: it's a disaster. So penalties, But what's more frustrating to 84 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: me than even the holding penalties are just the discipline penalties. 85 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: Dang key with a horrible penalty early in the game. 86 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't totally think the Doomus Johnson call was right, 87 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: but it still was an important penalty. The special teams penalty. 88 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't get hold there number thirty 89 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: five and I don't even know who thirty five is, 90 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but he had two. I mean, 91 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: how you only play on special teams plays? How do 92 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: you have two penalties for holding? And he did? You know, 93 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: that's that's awful. So double digit penalties, one hundred yards 94 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: and penalties huge problem. Discipline again has been an issue 95 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: often in the Stoops era, which is my number three thing. 96 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it is hard for me to not get 97 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: extremely frustrated at how a group who I'm not gonna 98 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: say they haven't had accomplishments. They have, but this current 99 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: group playing right now. I talked last year about undeserved 100 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: arrogance often during the year, and while they did beat 101 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: Old Miss, you know, you're coming off a bye and 102 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: you're playing a andy team and you're showcasing sort of 103 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: undeserved arrogance again, And when I say discipline, though I 104 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: don't just mean like acting in bad behavior, I mean 105 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: discipline of playing disciplined. Two snaps on special teams that 106 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: are you know, botched. I think one was probably more 107 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: on the holder, one was probably more on the snapper. 108 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: So actually Jordan Rodgers thought Alex Rainer should have kicked it. 109 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm not blaming that kick because he's been perfect this year, 110 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: but just in general, I mean, how do you have 111 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: two of those snap errors? I think had scored there 112 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: at the end, would you have even felt comfortable given 113 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: them the extra point kick there? I don't know. I 114 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: mean I was sitting there thinking because I always try 115 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: to think two or three plays ahead, like what are 116 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: they going to do if they score? I don't know 117 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: if you could have trusted him to kick a field 118 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: goal which is which is a disaster. And I think 119 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: if this is the second game like this in the 120 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: stoops there, I believe was it Old Miss Billy a 121 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: few years ago where we had the same problem We 122 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: couldn't snap, we couldn't hold the ball, and I think 123 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: we lost because of that. Maybe I think that was 124 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: the Coche. Yeah, I think that was the COVID year, 125 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: though I think we lost to Ole Miss solely because 126 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: of snapping. So you know, look, I listen to supers 127 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: of postgame comments. He does always take responsibility, but you 128 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: know he doesn't have answers as to why this stuff happens. 129 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: And Alpha bye week. Mark Stoops is five and eight, 130 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: and three of those wins are against really bad bandy teams. 131 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: So but now lost five and eight off of by 132 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: Kentucky is zero to six in their last six SEC 133 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: home games, two and ten in their last twelve. I mean, 134 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: there's nothing you can say about that. Coaches get fired 135 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: for being two and ten in their last twelve SEC 136 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: home games. So, I mean, this has been a season 137 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: where if you just hold servant home against teams that 138 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: in theory you should be better than, you would be 139 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: five and one and instead now you are three and three. 140 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: You let's just assume you beat Murray State, so that's four. 141 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: You got to get two wins out of Florida, Auburn 142 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: and Louisville and just even be boweligible. I mean there's 143 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: a legitimate chance they won't even be Bowl eligible for 144 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: the first time since Mark Stoops what second third year, 145 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: and when you consider the resources that have been put 146 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: into the program, when you consider the way that Stoops 147 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: obviously famously said pony up, but also has admonished fans 148 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: to get there, show up, be loud. You know, these 149 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: performances are just they're just not acceptable. So you're at 150 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: the halfway point of the year. You're gonna play Florida 151 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: next week. Florida lost their store at the starting quarterback tonight, 152 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: but their backup might even be better. Who knows. I 153 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: think their backup will give us problems because he moves 154 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: around like Diego did. But you know, winning at Florida, 155 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: like Florida almost won at Tennessee tonight. So it's it's very, 156 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: very frustrating, and you know you're in a situation. I 157 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: know what they're to what people are going to say, Well, 158 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: you got to replace coach. First of all, we're halfway 159 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: through the year. There's still another second half. But also 160 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: for the same reasons in the conversation we talked about 161 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: cal even if you want to do that, you cannot financially. 162 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: So you're just in a tough spot. And I don't know, 163 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what they do right now. I will 164 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: say one of the things Stoops is good at is 165 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: after bad performances, they usually come back and play well. 166 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: So I actually expect expect Kentucky probably to play well 167 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: next week. But this you can't lose at home to 168 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: Vandy two straight times. Terrible performance and probably the most 169 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: undisciplined and disappointing one that Mark's had since the one 170 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: two years ago against Vandy eight five nine two eight 171 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: zero twenty two eighty seven. It's very late. I want 172 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: to hear what you all think. Let's take a break. 173 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: This is the Local Toy Dealers KSR post game show. Appreciate, uh, 174 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: I said, appreciate its call. Billy and I we're talking, 175 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: and I almost appreciated Billy. Billy asked me about uh, well, 176 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: actually you just ask on the air here. Well, we 177 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: would tell him what you asked me. 178 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: Well, I thought a lot of tonight was about the 179 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: penalty Stoops didn't accept. There was the one that Kentucky 180 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: got stopped on the goal line. There was an off 181 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: sides call that they could have taken. 182 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about that one first or. 183 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: A false start maybe it was it was. 184 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: Nose and offsides Kentucky. It was first and goal from 185 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: the six, they get to the one, it's off sides. 186 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: They declined the penalty, so it's second and goal, and 187 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: of course then we had the false start. He should 188 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: have taken the penalty because then they would get it. 189 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: Then it's first and goal at the three, but you 190 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: get an extra play. I think in that situation, the 191 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: extra play is more important than being on the goal line. Clearly, 192 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: in hindsight, if you have the false start, you want 193 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: to take it. But to be fair to him, he 194 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: didn't know there was going to be a false start. 195 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: But I still think I'm with you, Billy. I still 196 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: think you take it because you get four shots from 197 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: the three, right, so you want to do that. And 198 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: so yeah, I didn't understand that. I'm sure he thought, well, 199 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: we're at the goal line, we'll just punch it in. 200 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to back up to the three. But 201 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: then you the false start shows why you can't do that. 202 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: And by the way, that false start. I was complaining 203 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: about Mensi and Cox on their holds, but it was 204 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: also Cox that got the false start, right or was 205 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: it Mensi? It was one of them, Like the fact 206 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: that they're not great blockers does not excuse a false start, 207 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: right there. 208 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, false start, then a bad throw and then I mean, 209 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: if plus they're. 210 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: Gonna be running through the middle like the tackles should 211 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: not be getting a false start. That's a huge mistake 212 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: by those guys. And then what was your second one? 213 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: Uh, the second one was after the key touchdown, there 214 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: was an off sides call. They could have gone for two, 215 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 2: and I don't. 216 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: Think you go for that. To your point, here's why 217 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: I don't. Okay, obviously he doesn't know they're gonna miss 218 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: the extra point. You go for two in that situation 219 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: if it's a fourteen point game, but if it's a 220 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: thirteen point game, you are assuming and you should assume 221 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna make the extra point. And so going for 222 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: two takes away the advantage of only being down thirteen 223 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: instead of fourteen. 224 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: But it allows them to allow a field goal on defense. 225 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're sitting there thinking you're gonna get a stop. 226 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: The analytics on that This happened in the NFL, I think, 227 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: not that long ago, on a thirteen point game and 228 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: they put up the analytics, and the analytics there says 229 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: kick the extra point. With if it's a fourteen point game, 230 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: the analytics say go for two. But in a thirteen 231 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: point game, because you assume you're gonna get a stop 232 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna score and you have a game 233 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: winning touchdown instead of a game time. Of course, when 234 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: you botch the snap, none of it matters anyway. So 235 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: all right, who's up first, Larry? Larry, go ahead, Larry, Hey, Matete, Yes, 236 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: what's up? 237 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: Just Colin say, you know, it's just another embarrassing loss. 238 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't use the call of these colling 239 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: shows that after leading to Bandy twice at home the 240 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: past two years, I mean, it's just another undisciplined Mark 241 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: Steps football team. I mean, I know in the post 242 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: game he said that, you know, you know I told 243 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: them all week we've got to be disciplined. So therefore 244 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: they go out and they be disciplined. That doesn't work 245 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: that way. 246 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you're right. I mean he says that after 247 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: every undisciplined game, and at some point it's a pattern. 248 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: I mean, how many how many other coaches, Like there 249 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: are a lot of coaches who might have one undisciplined game, Larry, 250 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: every ten years, we have two or three a year. 251 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you know the defense played well enough 252 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: to win the ball game. The offense, I mean, they 253 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: just they just shut themselves in their foot, That's all 254 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: you can say. And he's got to do something with 255 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 3: the discipline. I mean, you got to take players out, 256 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: put them on the sidelines. You're not going back in. 257 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: You put them back in for not disciplined enough, take 258 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: them back out again. 259 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: To your point about the defense in the offense, So 260 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: they what did they They scored twenty, we scored thirteen, 261 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: we scored thirty. I'm gonna give you a stat, Larry, 262 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: that'll drive you crazy, and it Vandy has not allowed 263 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,119 Speaker 1: this few points to an SEC team since twenty eighteen. 264 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: So we scored the fewest points against Vandy since any 265 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: SEC team since twenty eighteen. That's six seasons ago. So 266 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm with you. The defense was not great. This was 267 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: not the best, but it's good enough to win. You 268 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: gotta I think I said on the pregame show today 269 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: Van I think I literally said, Billy, Vandy's not gonna 270 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: score more than twenty, and they score exactly twenty. They 271 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: scored the high end. And I appreciate the call, Larry 272 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: for what I thought they could score. But you gotta 273 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: be able to score twenty one against Vandy. You certainly 274 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: can't just score thirteen. 275 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: Who's next, Sean, Sean, what's up? 276 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: Sean? 277 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 5: Hey, Matt just wanted to say, I'm more old school 278 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 5: than March two says, And after Dame Key gets that penalty, 279 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 5: he's not playing the rest of the night. I mean, 280 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 5: until the bench is the best motivator and it's a 281 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 5: way to get disciplined back. And I mean, and then 282 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 5: he had to fumble later, but I mean, I'm he's 283 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 5: not playing after that early in the game. Catch the 284 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 5: ball and get back to the huddle and let's do 285 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 5: it again. 286 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: Well, you know what I mean. We love Dame, but 287 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: Dame cost Kentucky six points tonight at least maybe more, 288 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: but certainly yeah, I mean, like he cost. 289 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 5: Me the fumbles the two that's what. 290 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm assuming, though I'm assuming they get three. They could 291 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: have gotten seven to your point, on both drives, so 292 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: it could have cost him fourteen. But at a minimum 293 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: in both situations, if he doesn't get the fumble and 294 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: the penalty, years you should get three. So he at 295 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: least cost him six. And it is him. And while 296 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: he is a great player and a great talent, like 297 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: that's just a reality, You're right, I mean, I don't 298 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: know that I would agree with you. He should he 299 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: should not play again. But those are two massive mistakes, right. 300 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 5: But I mean, we've got you talked about we got 301 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 5: to get disciplined. Well, the way you get disciplined is 302 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 5: consequences for your action, and that's true, and there doesn't 303 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 5: appear to be any consequence for bad actions. 304 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: I think that's a fair point. Appreciate the call. I 305 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: think that's a fair point, and I think that's been 306 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: If you listen to Max, he'll say one of the 307 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: reasons players love stoops is they can kind up be themselves. 308 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: They don't walk on eggs eggshells, and there's a positive 309 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: of that, but the negative may be what you're saying 310 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: right there. Who's next? Ryan? Ryan? Go ahead, right, y'all 311 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: doing tonight. 312 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 6: I know it's kind of tough, tough loss night, But 313 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 6: I'm like you all in the diehard blue fans, you know, 314 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 6: you when you're born into this when in Kentucky. 315 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 7: You're either blue or you're red. 316 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm blue. 317 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 6: You look in my veins, they're blue. 318 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 8: I blue blue. But I just got to say I'm 319 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 8: I called in after that George loss, and I said 320 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 8: that Kentucky needs to do something from the top down 321 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 8: because we're stuck in neutral with this. 322 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean, let's say you want to do that, the 323 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: conversation hang on a second, because there's some version of 324 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: this guy say, there'll be some version of this conversation, uh, 325 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: you know for the next few weeks. The same thing 326 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: I said when Cal was here. They can't do anything. 327 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: They don't have the money to pay a bye. So 328 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm interested in what people think they can do even 329 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: if they wanted to, which I'm not even saying is 330 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: a good idea. But let's say you wanted to. They 331 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: don't have the money to pay a bye. 332 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 6: So can I ask you this? 333 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 9: Then? 334 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 6: So Stupents has been here for what twelve years? Has 335 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 6: been in the twelfth season, right, and Cal was here 336 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 6: for what fifteen? Yes, yes, something like that. Okay, So 337 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 6: Cal had his last three years were kind of like sour. 338 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: But we didn't fire, we didn't fight right, right, and 339 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: maybe Mark would decide to do that, but but. 340 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 6: We That's where I was getting to, right, So I went, all, 341 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 6: So here's my thing. So Stoope's had we've had with him, 342 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 6: we've had what he's been here for twelve seasons, He's 343 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 6: took us to a ball quite a few years. I 344 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 6: gave him that we've had uh what one ten win 345 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 6: season with him. 346 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: Or two two two? 347 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 6: Okay, to ten win seasons with him. But if you 348 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 6: think and look at his overall record, we've had a 349 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 6: sour it like it's been sour with our football. Like 350 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 6: why I said, we've kind of been stuck. 351 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm gonna have this. I'm glad to 352 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: have this conversation with you. And the stuck in neutral 353 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: I think is a fair point to say it's sour. 354 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: He's the winning this coach in the history this school, 355 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: and he's had more success. He's had more success than 356 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: any coach that hasn't cheated here since Bear Bryant. So 357 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: I do think, I do think you have to I 358 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: do think you have to have ballance now have it. So, 359 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: So I mean it's fine that the stuck in neutral comment. 360 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: I think is fair to act like, well, I don't know, 361 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: or do. 362 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 6: You think or do you think their program or do 363 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 6: you think they'll you know, because I'm like no, I'll 364 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 6: give him like if Kentucky goes and you know, let's 365 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 6: say we win next week against Florida, we win against Aubury, 366 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 6: you know, of course everybody's gonna have a different. 367 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: Mindset after that. 368 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 6: But then again, if we go on the next losing 369 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 6: streak and we don't win again into Marry State, you know, 370 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 6: then we're at au. 371 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: I totally agree. That's why I don't know that you 372 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: can say I appreciate it, Caul. I don't know what's 373 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: gonna happen. You know, we're halfway through the season. If 374 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: they beat Florida in Auburn, it looks different than if 375 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: they lose to Florida in Auburn. If they lose to Florida, 376 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean, my view is if they lose to Florida 377 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: in Auburn and the only game they win for the 378 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: rest of the year is Murray State and they go 379 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: four and eight, which I don't think will be what happens, 380 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: but if it does, I don't think he'll want to 381 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: be here, to be honest with you. If they go 382 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: six and six, which I think might be the most 383 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: likely scenario at this point, then I don't know. I 384 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: think you're kind of in like a you're in a 385 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: weird situation. But I do think it's important to note 386 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: whatever happens at the end of the year will be 387 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: Mark Stoops's decision because of the nature of the contract. 388 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: Who's next. 389 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: He almost left this past off season. 390 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: He did, but he's not gonna have the opportunities he 391 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: had last season. Right like last season, A school like 392 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: A and M wanted him, you know, who knows. Everybody 393 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: has a different view of what happened that night, but 394 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: A and M clearly at some point wanted him, and 395 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: maybe wanted him till the very end. That's not gonna 396 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: happen again. Now, if Mark left, I do think he 397 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: could definitely get a job at a power school. But 398 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: he's not gonna get a school like A and M again, 399 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: especially if he doesn't have a good year, you know 400 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: what I mean. So I don't know, it won't be 401 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: like it was last year. But go ahead. 402 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and one of those ten win seasons is vacated. 403 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: Now we'll go to Casey. 404 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: That is true, but I but that's vacated. I mean, 405 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: to be fair, not filling out your expense report. Damn it, 406 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: it's I'm still counting that. Go ahead, Casey, Casey, Yes, 407 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: go ahead. 408 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 10: First time caller, who a long time listening. I was 409 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 10: just wondering. I understand about the buyout situations. There's just 410 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 10: why to talk on social media, you know about fire 411 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 10: and the stups. 412 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: Well, those people have to pay it, you know, it's 413 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: easy for people to say it if you don't have 414 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: to pay it. 415 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 10: I'm on your team, best coach you've ever had. But 416 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 10: assuming we keep him, and assuming we get rid of him, 417 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 10: how can we take from coming from you? How can 418 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 10: we take the next step? 419 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: Kind of like it's very difficult, Like that's the problem, 420 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: And we talked about this after the South Carolina game. 421 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: The problem is, let's say this season finishes five and 422 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: seven or six and six. You are to use the 423 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 1: other callers terms stuck in neutral, and I don't know 424 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: exactly how you get out of it. You know, like 425 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: Dion Walker will be gone. I think there's a good 426 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: chance Barrying Brown and Dang, he'll be gone. Vander Griff's 427 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: probably back, but your offensive line is still a disaster. 428 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to I mean, I think they have 429 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: five or six seniors on defense. Like you're gonna have 430 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: to rebuild your team and coming off a not so 431 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: great year in a New Nile world where you're competitive 432 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: but you're not at the top, it'll be very, very 433 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: difficult to be honest with you, and that is what 434 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: worries me. What worries me is like I don't know 435 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: what the next step is if this year doesn't go well, 436 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: and right now it's not really right. 437 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what worries me too, But we gotta stay competitive, 438 00:22:59,200 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 10: do something. 439 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate the call. I mean, that's the thing, Like, 440 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: none of this is getting any easier. I mean, right 441 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: now in the SEC, with the exception of Mississippi State, 442 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: nobody's bad. And even Mississippi State played Texas competitively today 443 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: Texas George excuse me, Georgia competitively. I mean they weren't 444 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: going to win, but so nobody's bad. And that's and 445 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, Kentucky's schedule does not have like I don't 446 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: think they'll even play Vandy next year, and I and 447 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: and they, you know, I think, what what's next year's 448 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: schedule gonna be. It's gonna be like Oklahoma, LSU, Alabama. 449 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: You know, are you getting all the teams you didn't 450 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: play this year is up there? 451 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: Basically next year will get I think Tennessee, South Carolina 452 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: and all the teams you didn't play this year, I 453 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: think is how it is. 454 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 4: So who's next, Ethan, Go ahead, Ethan. 455 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 11: Hey, I just got a couple statements. I understand that 456 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 11: forty million is a lot of money, obviously not something 457 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 11: that's realistic. But I don't see how you can go 458 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 11: from fans actually wondering what that number is to dig 459 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 11: out of the hole because we just maybe had one 460 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 11: of Mark Stoop's best wins of his career, and yet 461 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 11: one week later, for one game later, we're still wondering, 462 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 11: you know, if that's even on the table. Obviously it's not. 463 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 11: I don't see how you dig out of that hole 464 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 11: after one of your biggest wins. 465 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard, and it's still it's hard. Yeah, and no, 466 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: it's I think that's a fair point. It is hard. 467 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: It's hard to see how you make that transition. Now. 468 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: At the same time, they could beat Florida and Auburn 469 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: beat Louisville, finished seven and five and kind of be 470 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: where they were last year, you know, so, but I 471 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: thought they were gonna finish seven and five or eight 472 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: and four, and I was counting Vandy as a win. 473 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: So now like, you can't. You gotta win next week 474 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: against Florida, you gotta beat Auburn here and you gotta 475 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: beat Louisville. And you know, all three of those games 476 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: are losable games, you know, right, And. 477 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 11: That's the thing. It's like, if we get in the 478 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 11: same situation where we're coming up against Louisville, I mean, 479 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 11: potentially five wins going into Louisville. 480 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: By the way, that's what I think. Is that happened. 481 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what. This is just my prediction. 482 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna lose next week. I think we're 483 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: gonna beat Auburn. I think we're gonna lose to Tennessee, 484 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: beat Murray, lose to Texas, and we're gonna have to 485 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: play Louisville to make a ball And I actually think 486 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: we'll beat Louisville, as crazy as that sounds, because this 487 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: team just hates Louisville so much, But that is a 488 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: tough situation to be it. It really is, right. 489 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 11: And that's the thing. It's if we lose that game 490 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 11: in Louisville last year, I. 491 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: Mean, it's a different world. 492 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 12: It's a different world. 493 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: It is a different world if we I think, uh, 494 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: and I appreciate the call. I think an interesting alternate history, Billy, 495 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: is what does the world look like if we lose 496 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: to Louisville last year. So remember A and M was 497 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: in theory going to hire Stoops regardless, And it would 498 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: have been interesting to see if we lost to Louisville 499 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: and he took the job immediately, what would have happened? 500 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 501 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that win saved the season in 502 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: hindsight for him. I mean, that was a top ten 503 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: road win, but it may have. 504 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 4: Saved the season and kept here at the A and 505 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: M job. 506 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, it's it's hard to know. 507 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: It's it's a different world. A five nine, twenty two 508 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: eighty seven. We will take a break, come back, take 509 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: more of your calls. It's a Local Toy Dealers KSR 510 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: post game show. Walker back, it is the Local Toy 511 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: Dealers KSR postgame show. Uh not surprisingly, I get something wrong. 512 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm told by multiple people, including Billy, that our schedule 513 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: next year is just this season with the home and 514 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: away flipped. So we will play all these same teams 515 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: just flipped. So we will at home play Old Miss 516 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: uh Tennessee, Florida and Texas, and we will go on 517 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: the road to Vandy, South Carolina, Georgia and uh who 518 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: am I missing here? Vandy, South Carolina, Georgia and Auburn, 519 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: which actually is a doable schedule if you have a 520 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: good team, because you get the good excuse me, you 521 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: get the good teams at the on the at home 522 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: and the bad teams on the road, with the exception 523 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: of Georgia, which means if you're good, you could take 524 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: advantage of them. But nobody's bad if you play like 525 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: we did tonight, where we could lose to any team 526 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: in the SEC, including at home to Vandy for the 527 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: second straight time. 528 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: Who's next, Travis? 529 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 13: Is that? 530 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: Travis? Go ahead? 531 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 12: Travis Hey, Matt Hey, just a couple of things, man, 532 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 12: uh the tend the corp or then a half from 533 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 12: Simon and play calls, clock management. To give up the 534 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 12: touchdown is just unacceptable, man. You know, time and time again. 535 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 12: We see it every. 536 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: Game, every game, Okay, it's almost every game. They actually 537 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: handled it decently well against Old Miss and I complimented 538 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: him because it was rare that that happened. 539 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 12: But going to our offensive line, man, I thought they 540 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 12: played a good game. There was a one or two 541 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 12: holding calls that was their fault. 542 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: One or two. There were five, No, there were. 543 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 12: Five but also you got Rock scrambling around in the 544 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 12: pocket holding onto that ball. 545 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,239 Speaker 1: He did, he doesn't agreed to save his life. He 546 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: does hold it too long. He doesn't hold it too long. 547 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: And I thought Jordan Rodgers did a good job. You 548 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: remember that one play he pointed out that the ball 549 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: was supposed to just go out to burry On quickly, 550 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: and he held it and then nobody's. 551 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 12: Open, right, Yeah, he just runs the ball when he 552 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 12: doesn't need to, and when he needs to run the ball, 553 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 12: he doesn't. 554 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 555 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 12: But another thing too, on stoops Man. Every time they 556 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 12: show Stoops on the on the TV man, he's sitting 557 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 12: there with his dumbfounded look on his face. He's not 558 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 12: talking to his team, he's not motivating them, he's not 559 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 12: giving them the brute, honest truth. And then the one 560 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 12: time they show him talking to a player, he's talking 561 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 12: to number thirty five on special teams. 562 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: Well, I did have two penalties a lecture. 563 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 12: This was before the second the last penalty on the 564 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 12: Berry and Brown return at the end of the game 565 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 12: there and uh, he was lecturing them before and then 566 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 12: he goes out there and makes the same call. But 567 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 12: you know, it's just like, what do we need. Why 568 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 12: isn't Stoops in our huddle, you know, talking to these kids, man, 569 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 12: and boosting them on and giving. 570 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: Them doing that. I mean, just because you don't see 571 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: it on television doesn't mean he's not doing it. But 572 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: but I think your point about and I appreciate the call. 573 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: Your other points I think are valid. I think they're 574 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: completely valid. And uh, Brock, this was not a good 575 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: game for Brock. I mean, Oh, what's weird though, is 576 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: Brock actually makes some good throws. That throw to berry On, 577 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: what was a great catch by berry On. I mean 578 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: he put it in the only spot he could put it. 579 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: But man, he makes some bad I think when he 580 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: makes the right read, he makes a good throw, but 581 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: he makes some bad reads. He hones on the ball 582 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: too long. I think all that's very very fair. Five 583 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: nine twenty two eighty seven. Billy, They the refs did 584 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: screw us out of twenty five seconds, didn't they? There 585 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: at the end? I mean I didn't matter, I don't think, 586 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 1: but they did right so because they ran the clock 587 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: down from three minutes to whatever it was right two 588 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: thirty five. 589 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: I missed this part of the game, but I did 590 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: hear the fans booing when they continued. 591 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: It could be wrong, but I think I think they 592 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: I think they messed up and ran the play clock 593 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: twice on a play and nobody. Maybe I'm wrong. I 594 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: didn't complain a lot in the moment because I actually 595 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: thought it helped us because it would make sure Old 596 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: Miss wouldn't get the ball back if we scored a touchdown. 597 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: But of course we didn't score touchdown, so it didn't matter. 598 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: Who's next? 599 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: Philip is next, Philip? 600 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Philip, Hello, Matt, Thank you's taking my car? 601 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 14: First time caller? 602 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: Who I Matt? 603 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 14: I have been a fan thirty two years and for 604 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 14: the first fifteen years of my life, we was able 605 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 14: to save up enough money to go to one football game, 606 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 14: and that was a Georgia game where Kentucky got beat 607 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 14: fifty six to six. And that I was becoming an 608 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 14: older man, been able to work and you know, get 609 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 14: season tickets for myself and for my son. It's hard 610 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 14: driving three hours to Lexington every Saturday to watch them 611 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 14: get beat over the same issue I worked in. 612 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: The mines for. 613 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 14: I worked in the mines for fifteen years, you know, 614 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 14: been injured, trying to provide for my son, give him 615 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 14: the life I didn't have, just to go and be 616 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 14: disappointed every Saturday by the Cats. No, and one thing 617 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 14: we love to do. 618 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: We love to watch the catwalk. He loves he's got 619 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: this white Nike football. 620 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 14: He loves getting autographs and for whatever reason, for four 621 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 14: weeks straight or four home games trade I'm sorry. 622 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 15: We've tried to get. 623 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 14: Rock Vandergriff, barry On Brown, dan Key, Anthony Brown Stevens 624 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 14: to sign his football and for whatever reason, they will not. 625 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 14: Is that part of like maybe they're Nio deals, is that, hey, 626 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 14: they can't sign for autographs. 627 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean I don't First of all, no, I don't 628 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: think so. I don't know why they haven't. And I'm 629 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: sure and you know they I'm sure they would. I 630 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: don't know the scenario, so I can't really answer that. 631 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: Let me let me go to your first point for 632 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: a second, though. What I love about UK football turn 633 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: your radio down just behind you because I can hear 634 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: my voice in the background. What I love about UK 635 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: football is that guys like you go, meaning like you know, 636 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: basketball tickets not everybody can get them, and to buy 637 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: a season is very is a lot, but you save 638 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: up your money to go and I bet you. I mean, 639 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: I would think you really treasure those trips with your son, right. 640 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 16: Oh, yeah, absolutely, And I understand, like I think oftentimes 641 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 16: people like people in athletics or whatever, they complain about 642 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 16: fan mindset sometimes, but. 643 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: A guy like you, you know, you're you're looking forward to 644 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: this and you deserve, I think, to feel like what 645 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: you're watching is putting in as much into it as 646 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: you are. Is that kind of what you're saying. Yeah? 647 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 14: Absolutely, And like one point too, is season football tickets. 648 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: That's it for us? 649 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 14: Season basketball tickets is not an option for the simple 650 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 14: fact well, obviously you know the price of them is 651 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 14: crazy at times, but logistically, for a blue collar worker 652 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 14: like me, it is not feasible for us to go 653 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 14: buy these season tickets, play all this money and might 654 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 14: be able to make it to thirty to forty percent 655 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 14: of the home games because we got to work nine 656 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 14: five dogs during. 657 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: The wet That no, I get it, And that's what 658 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 1: I love about UK football games. It's what you're saying, 659 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: but it also makes it disappointing. I mean, you've been 660 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: We're two and ten in the last twelve sec home game, 661 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: so I appreciate you calling and sharing that because I 662 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: do think it's a perspective it often gets forgotten. Be 663 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: careful going home. 664 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 14: Okay, thank you, Bat, I appreciate you taking my call. 665 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: Thank you. I think that's important to remember. There's a 666 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: lot of people that go to those football games that 667 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: are like that guy and that are listening right now 668 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: and their drives home, and you know, it's just important 669 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: for everybody involved, or remember who's next. 670 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 4: Noah, Noah, go ahead, Noah. 671 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 13: Hey guys, how y'all doing good? All right, that's good. 672 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 13: I want to, you know, not to piggyback off the 673 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 13: last guy, but I gotta I got a story to 674 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,479 Speaker 13: tell too. When I was seven years old, my dad, 675 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 13: uh he was the president of our youth football league, 676 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 13: and we finally had an open Saturday to go. And 677 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 13: it was back in twenty twelve. And the first and 678 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 13: up until last year, only game I. 679 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 17: Went to was when Vanderbilt beat the breaks off of Kentucky. 680 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 17: I think it was forty to zero. 681 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: That was your first game, Yeah, that was my game? 682 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, And I think I was the saying we 683 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 17: lost to Western Kentucky too. 684 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: That was a good year. It was, yeah, it was yeah. 685 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 17: But I feel like tonight's loss, and really just this 686 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 17: season in general. It might be a lower point than 687 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 17: that for what our expectations are, right, because we've got 688 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 17: this roster that is just I mean compared to yours past. 689 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 17: This roster is Alabama compared to what we had back then, 690 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 17: and we just we can't seem to get anything done. 691 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 17: I feel like there's a a level of complacency that 692 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 17: we've reached that is just unacceptable. 693 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: Well, there was a there was a sense of doom 694 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: for that game in particular, because we stunk and we 695 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: were like playing out in the string. Right. Yeah, I 696 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: will say this, like tonight, if Kentucky just plays disciplined 697 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: and plays the last two minutes of the first half better, 698 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: they win, and that that that's very frustrating. I actually 699 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: find that more frustrating than when the other team is 700 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: just better, you know, Like this game is more frustrating 701 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: because honestly, Vandy, outside of like Vanny didn't even really 702 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: play well in the second half. Pavia could barely walk, 703 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: and defense really couldn't stop us. We just stopped ourselves 704 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: for the most part. So I I kind of agree 705 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: with you in some ways, it's more frustrating that game 706 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: was more embarrassing the one you're talking about. But in 707 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: some ways I would agree with you. This is more frustrated. 708 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 17: Yeah, and I feel like the clock management this year 709 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 17: is just I mean, obviously Stoops has not been, you know, 710 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 17: notorious for good clock management, but the clock management this 711 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 17: year has just been abysmal compared to years past. I mean, 712 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 17: we saw what happened. 713 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, he's terrible at it. He's just terrible 714 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: at it. I mean, he's just terrible at it. I mean, 715 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: they're you know, and I appreciate the call. There are 716 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: things he's good at. I think he's put a good 717 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: defense on the field pretty much every single year he's 718 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: been here. I think they I think his team's pretty 719 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: much maximize their defensive ability almost every year, going back 720 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: to Matt House and Brad White and even before then, 721 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: the even when his teams were bad those first couple 722 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: of years, their defense, you know. But when it comes 723 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: to clock management, he is not good at it and 724 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: hasn't been good at it really since he's been here. 725 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: Who's next? What's up? 726 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 12: Edward? 727 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 15: Hey, Matt, how are you? 728 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: I'm good? 729 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:16,959 Speaker 13: Good? 730 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 15: Yeah, So, just just driving home from the game. On 731 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 15: the way back to Louisville here, and I don't mean 732 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 15: to pile on the Stoops train like I don't. I 733 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 15: don't want to crap on the guy at all. I 734 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 15: mean he liked the Last Caller. My earliest memories are 735 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 15: kind of the transition away from uh from Joker and 736 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 15: that forty oero band. He lost two Stoops and he's 737 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 15: done some great things. I asked the question in The 738 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 15: Athletic this week in a mail bag article. I'm not 739 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 15: going to read the response, but pretty much what I 740 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 15: asked was, has Stoops taken Kentucky as far as it 741 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 15: can go? And do you first see him looking at 742 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 15: other opportunities after this? 743 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: Have they taken him as far as they can go? Okay? So, 744 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: do I think Kentucky can win a national time? No? 745 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: Do I think Kentucky can win an SEC title? Probably not. 746 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: Do I think Kentucky one out of every five years 747 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: could have a real shot at a playoff in the 748 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: new format? Yeah? What worries me is these last two 749 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: years have not been encouraging. You could make a strong 750 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: argument that these last two years have been some of 751 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: the best talent he's had. And we were seven and 752 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: five and we'll see what happens this year. So I 753 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: do think there's a worry that it's kind of stuck 754 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: in neutral. Do I think he'll pursue other options? I 755 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: have to tell you, me and you talking, I've kind 756 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: of thought, no matter what, that was gonna happen. And 757 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: that's not inside knowledge. Okay. I honestly have not talked 758 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: to Stoops this entire season. I really haven't talked to 759 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: him since I got back from Europe. I talked to 760 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: him once, So I I don't know what's in his mind, 761 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: but I've kind of just always thought in the same 762 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: way that last year, I kind of thought it was 763 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: gonna be Col's last year, even before they struggled. I've 764 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: kind of thought this was gonna be Stoops's last year, 765 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 1: just for no reason than just feeling. And I would 766 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: say to you nothing's happened to change that view, But 767 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: I can't say I know it's a guess. 768 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 15: Yeah, no, no, sure, And I appreciate your insight. Like 769 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 15: I said, that kind of coincides with what the writer 770 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 15: in the Athletic wrote back to me in the article, 771 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 15: And like I said, you can you can find. 772 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: It pretty easily. 773 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 15: But yeah, I appreciate coach Stoops a lot. I think 774 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 15: he's elevated us and you know, we may be stalling 775 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 15: out now, but that's okay. I mean, all good stuff 776 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 15: has to come to an end. But to echo your point, 777 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 15: there's no reason every handful of years, especially when they 778 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 15: expand the playoff to sixteen, that we couldn't maybe claw. 779 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 1: Oh, I definitely, definitely. I mean, look, yeah we should. 780 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: And I appreciate the people sometimes online talk about expectations. 781 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: Matt Jones's expectation for UK football is you make a 782 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: Bowl almost every year, if not every year, like maybe 783 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: one in ten, you don't make it. You seven is 784 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: the base to be happy. You once every five years 785 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: have a shot at a playoff in the current format, 786 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: And I think if you look at Stoops's career, that's 787 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of what it's been. Is exactly what I just said, 788 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: because I think the two years we won ten games, 789 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: if the playoff format existed, we would have either gotten 790 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: in or been one of the first two teams out. 791 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: But this year has not been like that, and I'm 792 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: worried this might be the first year he doesn't make 793 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: a Bowl since his second year or third year. He 794 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: if I'm nine two eighth, twenty two eighty seven. Let's 795 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: take a break. We'll do our final segment. This is 796 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: the Local Toy Dealers KSR Post Game Show looking back. 797 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: It is the Local Toy Dealers KSR Postgame Show final 798 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: segment here on KSR. Thanks for standing up. I gotta 799 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: go to bed here in a minute, Billy, because I 800 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: gotta do the NFL show tomorrow. And I haven't even 801 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: looked to see who plays. Usually on Saturday night, I 802 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,280 Speaker 1: try to see what's the big game? Yeah, Lines, Cowboys, 803 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: I guess. Now the point though, I can just say 804 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: something about all these teams. You know, I may not 805 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: know much, Like, just give me a team. I'll just 806 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: show you real quick. Just give me a team. 807 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 2: Okay, tell me about the Cowboys. 808 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: Oh, first, all that was easy. Dak Prescott. You know, 809 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. They got absolutely blown out at home twice, 810 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: but then bounce back the last couple of weeks and 811 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: get to win. This a big chance gets Detroit to 812 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: show that those fluke game games against the Saints at 813 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: home and the Ravens those were flukes, big time chance 814 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: for them to get a big victory to markets Detroit. 815 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 2: Hmm, that's right. I forgot you did all that dark 816 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 2: contract talk. 817 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: I've done so much years, could talk about Dak in 818 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: my sleep. 819 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 2: Who's next, Tyler's. 820 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: I will dream tonight. I'm sure I'm your text name, Tyler. 821 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Tyler. 822 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 7: Hey, thanks man, Thanks Billy for having me on. 823 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. 824 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 7: I'm a New York Giants fan talking about football leading 825 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 7: in for Sunday. I'm a New York Giants fan too, 826 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 7: and a UK football. 827 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: Who do you all play tomorrow? Just to help me 828 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: get ready the Bengals. Oh, the big game for the Bengals. 829 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: Gotta win that one, must win seasons over. 830 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 7: Well, I'm like I said, I'm a New York Giants 831 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,760 Speaker 7: fan and a UK football fan, so I'm a glutton 832 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 7: for punishment flash. 833 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 834 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 7: But now you know, some of your earlier callers were 835 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 7: talking and I kind of have mixed feelings as well 836 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 7: about the legacy of stoops. Like you know, I took 837 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 7: my twelve year old son with me tonight and he 838 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 7: was at the game with me earlier in this season 839 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 7: with that South Carolina when we played them as well, 840 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 7: and you know, it's just one of those like the 841 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 7: South Carolina walls felt like an all systems failure, like 842 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 7: all the way around. This one didn't feel that way, 843 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 7: but it was probably more frustrating because you could just 844 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 7: see little things here or there that would have made 845 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 7: the difference in the game. 846 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: At the time. I totally agree with that. The South 847 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: Carolina game, we got dominated. This was a game. I 848 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: don't want to say we beat ourselves because they played well, 849 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: but we should have won. I mean, if we just 850 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: do what we're supposed to do, we win. Yeah. 851 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 7: I just think at the end of the day, you 852 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 7: know that we allowed them to sustain drives. We did 853 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 7: shoot ourselves in the foot. But after twelve years, and 854 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 7: this is why I think the legacy of Stoops is 855 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 7: kind of complicated, and it's kind of you know, you 856 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 7: hate to always compare the things with col but that's 857 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,399 Speaker 7: kind of what you know most recent, so you kind 858 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 7: of see what happened there. The same thing. Mark Stoops 859 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 7: is responsible for a lot of people's great memories for 860 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 7: UK football. You know, I've been a fan since you know, 861 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 7: Bill Curry was here and he sucked and so you know, 862 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 7: but Mark suits was, you know, has been responsible for 863 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 7: some great memories for UK football fans. But I think 864 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 7: going back to the pony up comments. Now you're kind 865 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 7: of like, do we need a pony up for Vandy. 866 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 7: I mean, it's just there's these there's these little things 867 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 7: that just add it up over the last couple of 868 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 7: years and at the end, at the end of the day, 869 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 7: over you know, if you do this time and time again, 870 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 7: it feels like the discipline it's not just a discipline 871 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 7: and undisciplined problem, it's a cultural problem. 872 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, I've often thought with Cal just because I 873 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: know you're right, it's it's just natural to do the difference. 874 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: I think Cal hit a lower low than Stoops has hit. 875 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: To be honest, Now, granted he got a higher high, right, 876 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: we won a national championship, but I also think we 877 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: got a lower low. I mean, for Kentucky basketball to 878 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: lose to Saint Peter's in Oakland is pretty terrible. But 879 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: I think in both situations there was a moment where 880 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: things changed. I think for Cal that moment was COVID, right, 881 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,439 Speaker 1: Like I think if you go back and you look 882 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: post COVID, he was a different coach and team. I 883 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: do wonder if when it's all over, to be honest 884 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 1: with you, Tyler, we'll say pony up was that moment 885 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: for Stoops. I mean, I don't know if it will be, 886 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 1: but it does feel like things have been different since 887 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: he since that happened. 888 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 7: I think that was just a reset moment for a 889 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 7: lot of fans because I think the expectations have been 890 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 7: so high and then to get that, get that statement, 891 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 7: and then not see those expectations and the attitude. I 892 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 7: think Stoops has instilled a gritty attitude with these guys, 893 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 7: but that attitude doesn't seem to be translating into success 894 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 7: on the field. Again, you can see all these undisciplined things. 895 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 7: The clock management stuff's still an issue. You know, if 896 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 7: you expect fans to step up, you've got to change 897 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 7: the way you do things in order to do it fair. 898 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: That's tollly fair. I appreciate the call. And remember after 899 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: the pony up statement. That was the Monday after the 900 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: Georgia game, a game where if you remember, they had 901 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: gotten blown out, and then they lost at home to 902 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: Missouri the next game, and it really that was a 903 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: that was a big loss. We're at fourteen to nothing 904 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: in the fake pun, I mean that was that was 905 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: a big turning point game in a lot of ways. 906 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 4: What's next, Matt's next, Matt, go ahead, Matt. 907 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 18: Hey, Matt. The losing to Vanderbilt twice in a row 908 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 18: at home is absolutely unacceptable. But let me just read 909 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,720 Speaker 18: you a couple of things here. First downs Kentucky twenty 910 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 18: three Van nineteen total yards three twenty two to two 911 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 18: eighty eight. We outrushed them. It's just penalties, twelve of 912 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 18: them for one hundred and five yards. It's unbelievable that 913 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 18: with a twelve year most tenured coach in the SEC, 914 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 18: we're having that many penalties and that many just costly mistakes. 915 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: I agree. That's why I say South Carolina we can 916 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: say we should have theoretically won, but we just got 917 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: completely whipped. So I should have won this game if 918 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 1: we had just done basic things. And that's really frustrating 919 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,439 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah. 920 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,919 Speaker 18: Another thing I want to say is I'm not here 921 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 18: for any name King Slander. I know he had one 922 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 18: really bad penalty and he had a fumble where a 923 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 18: guy dove his helmet into the ball. But that kid, 924 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 18: for three straight weeks, three straight weeks, that kid has 925 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 18: caught every single thing. 926 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: But both of those things can be true, right, So, Like, 927 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't like when fans take a mentality that someone 928 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: is either great or they're terrible, and there's no middle ground. 929 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 1: Dane has been awesome these last three weeks. Awesome. Dane 930 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,760 Speaker 1: cannot get that personal foul penalty. It costs us three points. 931 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: And I agree with you, that was a good play 932 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 1: the guy made. But you also can't fumble that both 933 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: those things can be true. You can say he's been 934 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: awesome and criticize him when it's not. My frustration over 935 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: the years has been this idea that everything has to 936 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: be they're awful or they're amazing. It can be both 937 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: and not. It can be in the middle. And Dane 938 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: has been awesome, but those those were huge mistakes he 939 00:48:59,280 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: made to. 940 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 18: Not I think it's fair to be frustrated with those 941 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 18: couple plays. But again, that kid has called everything that's 942 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 18: come his way, and I think when you're coming down 943 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 18: the stretch and you need a score at the end 944 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 18: of the game, I'm throwing everything I can to number six. 945 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: I agree. I totally agree with that. I appreciate the call. 946 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,919 Speaker 1: I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive. Let's 947 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: do three more Billy, and then I'm gonna try to 948 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: go to sleep. Who's next? 949 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 2: JR. 950 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 1: JR. Go ahead, JR. Interception Colorado? Wow, look at this? 951 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 1: Are they gonna win this game? Oh? My goodness? Oh 952 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: he fell? Oh he fell? Wow? All right, go ahead JR. 953 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 9: Hey man, I'm gonna try it out to be overly negative. Okay, 954 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 9: a little frustrated this evening. 955 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: Go for it. 956 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 11: So so a couple questions and then just. 957 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 9: Kind of one point. Really, the biggest thing is is 958 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 9: everything that we love about Soups does it feel like 959 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 9: it manifests itself in negative plays? Buyer? And do we 960 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 9: feel like Mark Soups might be the prime meridian of 961 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 9: college football? 962 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know what you you tell me what 963 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 1: you mean by the second one. I do think the 964 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: things that frustrated stuff about stoops do manifest itself in players. 965 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: I mean, like, how would you know everything a coach 966 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: does comes through their players? So yes, but what do 967 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: you mean by the prime meridian of football? I'm interested 968 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: in what that means? 969 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 970 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 9: So I'm a Bengals fayan. And when we had Andy Dalton, 971 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 9: I remember reading an article several years ago and somebody 972 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 9: wrote him and basically put him as the eighteenth overall 973 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 9: quarterback in the NFL, and said. 974 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:46,760 Speaker 1: He was saying, like he's the median, okay, the prime marin. Yeah, 975 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean I think he's above average because I think 976 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 1: to win here is hard. 977 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 9: I mean, I get, how old are you, I'm thirty six. 978 00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: Okay, we sound younger, that's good. Uh yeah, I mean 979 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 1: like we haven't won to here my entire life until Stoops. 980 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,879 Speaker 1: So I think where you have to be on the 981 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 1: scale of coaches to win at Kentucky like he has 982 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 1: is above average, right. I think if you have an 983 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 1: average or below average coach here, they lose. So I 984 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: think he's above average. But is he, you know, top 985 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty. Probably not. I think when it comes 986 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: to recruiting, they're probably honestly top ten or top fifteen 987 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: when you consider what they do recruiting here. Uh but yeah, 988 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 1: I would put him above average because I just think 989 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: it's harder to win here than it meant at most 990 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 1: schools in America because of the conference, right, I appreciate, 991 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,919 Speaker 1: I think, or go ahead, go ahead real quick? 992 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I think that's That's the hardest thing is 993 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 9: Stups has always had an elite defense, and it always 994 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 9: feels like the common denominator has always come down to 995 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 9: quarterback play in the offense. 996 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair. I appreciate the call when 997 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 1: we've had good we've had good quarterbacks. But as we've 998 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: talked about, look, we're in the SEC. I've got over 999 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 1: this many times. But no state in the SEC produces 1000 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: less talent than us than Kentucky, and so to win 1001 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: here is like even harder than it is in the 1002 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 1: other SEC school because you don't even produce homegrown town. 1003 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: And then when it comes to nil of the sixteen schools, 1004 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: we're probably like twelve maybe eleventh in anile. So like 1005 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 1: all of those things means if you can get a 1006 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: top half of the SEC program here, you're really doing well. 1007 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 1: But you shouldn't lose to Bandy twice and row at 1008 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 1: home Let's do too. Colorado takes the lead. Gosh, we're 1009 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 1: gonna have it. The Colorado hip train is gonna start 1010 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,919 Speaker 1: again in two more. Who's now? Hunter? Hunter? Go ahead? Hunter? 1011 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 19: Hey, how are you guys? 1012 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 1: Tonight? Good? 1013 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 19: So I've been thinking, like ever since the game's over, 1014 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 19: there's been a million different thoughts going through my head, 1015 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 19: and honestly, like I usually like to look at these 1016 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 19: games analytically, like what do we do wrong. Honestly came 1017 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,280 Speaker 19: down to two things. It came down to o line. 1018 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 19: You know, they had the illegal formation problems with South 1019 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 19: Carolina and then these holdings just killed us. And then 1020 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 19: the other thing is stoops is stubbornness. I told my dad, 1021 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 19: and I joke with him. I said, I are you 1022 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 19: sure he's not from eastern Kentucky because of how stubborn 1023 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 19: he is and how stuck in the ways he is. 1024 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: That's not that's that's an unfair slide to eastern Kentucky. 1025 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,839 Speaker 1: So okay, oh well if you okay, if you're from there, 1026 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: then then you can stay. Uh. Yeah, he is stubborn. 1027 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: It's interesting he's I think he he is stubborn and 1028 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,280 Speaker 1: stuck in his ways, but then he also will change stuff. 1029 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 1: But the thing that he won't change is sometimes the 1030 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: thing that's the most frustrating about him. Like I think 1031 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: he's tried to be more flexible on offense, but like 1032 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,240 Speaker 1: he's still pretty stubborn and not being able to manage 1033 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: the clock, you know, I mean, like, so you know, 1034 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1035 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 3: He is. 1036 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,720 Speaker 1: He's definitely, he's definitely stubborn. I appreciate the call he's stubborn. 1037 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 1: In a different way than Cal is like Cal was 1038 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 1: stubborn too, but in a different way. But no, he's 1039 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 1: he's certainly stubborn. But I don't think that's the issue 1040 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 1: so much. I think the discipline and sort of the 1041 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 1: clock management, to be honest with you, is the thing 1042 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 1: that drives me the most because it's so easily fixable. 1043 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone on that staff, every single person knows 1044 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: infinitely more about football than I do. But I do 1045 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: think Billy I could manage the clock at the end 1046 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 1: of the day. 1047 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 15: You can run. 1048 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: Not the plays, but just what they do from a 1049 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 1: time perspective, because it's just math, you know what I mean, 1050 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: It's just math. It's not football. It's math. And they 1051 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: just don't do the math. And any dork could do 1052 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 1: the math, and they just don't do it. And it 1053 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 1: drives me crazy. All right, last one, who's that? 1054 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 2: Kendall? 1055 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: Kendall? What's up? Kend Hey? Man? 1056 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 7: I guess what I was upset with the most is 1057 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 7: I mean, I I just don't understand some of the 1058 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 7: play calls. 1059 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,879 Speaker 1: I mean, what are we. 1060 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 9: Doing at the end here where they're just. 1061 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 13: I don't know. 1062 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 19: I'm just really disappointed tonight. 1063 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: Uh oh, what whoa, whoa, whoa whoa? Oh wait a minute, 1064 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: watching to say you were ahead of me? I was like, 1065 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: why is he going? Whoa? All right, I got you 1066 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 1: Kansas State with a big drive. Go ahead, you were 1067 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: ahead of you're ahead of me by a few seconds, 1068 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 1: but go ahead. 1069 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, anyway, I was disappointed in uh comments. 1070 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 13: Did you listen to him? 1071 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 1: I did? I did, so, Like, all right, so I'm 1072 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: glad you said that. Let's let's talk about Stoops's common So, uh, 1073 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 1: Stoop said, I think you're talking about where He says, well, 1074 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 1: what which ones bothered you the most? You're talking about 1075 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: his comments with Tom Leech? Yes, yes, yes, absolutely so, yeah, 1076 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: Stoops go. Tom says something to the effect of, it 1077 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 1: was very frustrating out there. 1078 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 14: You know what did you I just lost by the way, Oh, 1079 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 14: there's flagging her ahead. 1080 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm about to hang up on you. I appreciate the call. 1081 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 1: You're ahead of me on the feet. I think you're 1082 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: talking about. Tom says something like, hey, what did you 1083 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: see out there? And he says something like, I don't 1084 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,919 Speaker 1: know right in that kind of what happened? Billy? What 1085 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 1: what were the words? Because the words were odd? 1086 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 2: He's very frustrated we had to use the dump button 1087 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 2: on him. 1088 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: And he well, you didn't dump him. I heard it. 1089 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 2: Well, were you connected on the comments? 1090 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 1: Oh so you did get those words? Yeah, okay, all right, gotcha, 1091 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 1: I'll read you what he said. Stoop said. Stoops was 1092 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: asked by Tom Lee, what's your assessment of what happened tonight? 1093 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: And he said, I wish I knew. It's extremely frustrating. 1094 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: I think what bothers people, at least online, was that 1095 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: I wish I knew Billy. That actually doesn't bother me 1096 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: as much because I think he's just being honest. I 1097 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: don't think he knows why. I don't think he knows 1098 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 1: why those guys make the errors they do. And I 1099 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,919 Speaker 1: don't know if that's good or bad. I just think 1100 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 1: he's being honest. You know. 1101 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably withholding judgment till he can watch the tape, 1102 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 2: and that's what a football coach should do. 1103 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: But it bother you that he said I wish I knew. 1104 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I thought he was extremely honest, to 1105 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 2: the point where I felt like he was blaming players 1106 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 2: more than he normally does. 1107 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 1: I think that's probably right. And then what you're talking 1108 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 1: about is, So I guess what I heard is not 1109 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: what went over the air. 1110 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, okay, because I think you tweeted it out. 1111 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: I tweeted out exactly what he said. I thought it 1112 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 1: went over the air. I didn't realize I was getting 1113 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 1: the uncensored version he said. Believe me, I'm as frustrated 1114 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 1: as any fan out there. It is complete bull blank. 1115 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: I am as blanked off as anyone. But I know 1116 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: it's on me. Billy and I actually got to hear 1117 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 1: the actual words, but I guess you all didn't. I 1118 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 1: was a little shocked at his words, Billy, like I've 1119 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: never heard him cuss on the radio before. 1120 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, extremely frustrated, talked about the players not controlling their emotions. 1121 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, well now I want to see the end 1122 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 1: of this game, but you want to go home, so 1123 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,959 Speaker 1: I'll let you go home. Thank you all very much 1124 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 1: for staying up. For those of you not home yet, 1125 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 1: please be careful on your way. If you're listening on podcasts, 1126 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: have a good rest of your weekend. Billy's also going 1127 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 1: to put up the Patino interview on podcast, so if 1128 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 1: you miss that, you can hear it. We'll be back 1129 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 1: on Monday. A bad loss for stoops in Kentucky to 1130 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt twenty to thirteen Kentucky and Florida next week. We'll 1131 00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: see you later. This has been the local toy dealers 1132 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 1: KSO our postgame show