Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles you
Speaker 1: be are thrilled to be joined in our third seats
Speaker 1: by a journalist who's been published in plays like The
Speaker 1: Guardian Enslaved. You probably already follow her on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Socialist dog Mom for her in depth investigative work on
Speaker 1: white supremacist, neo Nazis and hate groups in the US.
Speaker 1: Her new podcast for Cool Zone is Weird Little Guys.
Speaker 1: Please welcome Molly Kongu.
Speaker 2: Intro. Glad to be here.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was weird to do that when we were
Speaker 3: just talking, so let's well pretend I didn't just scream up.
Speaker 4: But anyway, what's up. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pumped about it.
Speaker 4: The show is so good.
Speaker 1: Weird Little Guys, Well, yeah, well we're gonna get into
Speaker 1: it that the timing, Like, I'm just curious to hear
Speaker 1: how it felt as the entire Democratic Party kind of
Speaker 1: coalesced around the messaging of like what if we called
Speaker 1: these guys weird, like as your podcast is about to
Speaker 1: come out, basically making that point.
Speaker 2: I mean like cynically, that's marketing you couldn't engineer, right,
Speaker 2: that's the SEO on that is beautiful. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, like you know, people are like, oh, you're
Speaker 2: just aping democratic messaging. It's like I don't. First of all,
Speaker 2: this is this is my first job in you know,
Speaker 2: in audio media. But so maybe people don't know. But
Speaker 2: the production cycle on this show, like if we could
Speaker 2: turn around a whole show from the day Tim Waltz
Speaker 2: called him weird, Like the trailer came out like two
Speaker 2: days later, like do you think, right, do you think
Speaker 2: the art department mocked this up yesterday?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It's like take like two three hours here, and nobody
Speaker 3: could have thought of like that way to describe these
Speaker 3: weird dudes.
Speaker 2: Like now, I have been saying that for literal years
Speaker 2: and that's that's why the show's called that.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: He's like in a meeting months ago, I was you know,
Speaker 2: we're sort of talking about production of the show. Is
Speaker 2: like a regular like work business meeting, and I just
Speaker 2: can't help myself. I'm always looking at a weird little guy.
Speaker 2: So I'm you know, interjecting, you know, how is everybody's
Speaker 2: day going? What are we doing? And I'm like, you, guys,
Speaker 2: I just found the weirdest little guy. And so if
Speaker 2: you wrote it down her little notebook. And that's why
Speaker 2: it's the name of the show, because like I.
Speaker 3: Always like, yeah, yeah, the only way to only way
Speaker 3: to describe it, only way to describe it.
Speaker 1: What is something from your search history that's realing about
Speaker 1: who you are.
Speaker 6: I have been searching a thing from my childhood, which
Speaker 6: is the characters in a like game franchise called Backyard Sports.
Speaker 6: There's just an announcement today that they're gonna they're going
Speaker 6: to bring back the backyard Sports games, which are the
Speaker 6: names are just like backyard football, backyard baseball, backyard soccer.
Speaker 6: And I played it for PC like all the time,
Speaker 6: and it has a very passionate, devoted fan base. I
Speaker 6: think of kids who played it. And they just posted
Speaker 6: a trailer today that it's gonna come back. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: that's right, Victor.
Speaker 4: It's awesome.
Speaker 6: I'm seeing a chat already in the table. We're loving it.
Speaker 3: This is like that gap where Okay, so it came
Speaker 3: out in ninety seven. I'm in seventh grade. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm off that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what backyard sports? What is this?
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, oh, yeah, this is the era
Speaker 3: of me being really like a cool teenage kid.
Speaker 4: Producer.
Speaker 1: Victor in the chat wrote, Yo, that's pretty exciting.
Speaker 4: Double X.
Speaker 1: There it is, Alex. I hate to bring it to
Speaker 1: you that Victor's chats are actually unrelated from the conversation
Speaker 1: we're having. He just does that throughout the thing based
Speaker 1: on what's going on in his.
Speaker 7: In his living room.
Speaker 1: I think he's probably watching a replay of the Dodgers game.
Speaker 6: It's not a good bird outside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, was it sports?
Speaker 4: He just said, I just wanted slots. Are you hey,
Speaker 4: you're not at the casino again? Are you sure? Just
Speaker 4: one slots? Yeah? Remote work man. We are.
Speaker 3: The games just like super simple like video game versions
Speaker 3: of like sports, like you know, baseball or dodgeball or
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I'd say it's like it's the right simplicity, Like it's
Speaker 6: fun and tough, but it's simpler than like a super
Speaker 6: realistic Madden er FIFA or something. Right, and and it
Speaker 6: also I don't know if he knew or got word
Speaker 6: of it, but a couple of days ago, a real
Speaker 6: baseball player named Bobby Witt Junior had a custom bat
Speaker 6: with the player Pablo Sanchez printed on it. Pablo Sanchez
Speaker 6: as a character in the Backgyard Sports and the best one.
Speaker 6: He's a secret weapon. So it's it's very fun that
Speaker 6: this is like back. I feel like I'm a child again.
Speaker 4: It's great.
Speaker 1: I love that Superducer just said a bit like we
Speaker 1: sports without the motion detection, I think low stakes fun.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at I'm looking at the Backgard Sports
Speaker 1: characters for the first time. They're drawn in a way
Speaker 1: where very cute. Their eyes are extremely close together, which
Speaker 1: leads me to believe that they are predators. They're extremely
Speaker 1: dangerous predators who who don't require peripheral chasing forward and
Speaker 1: extremely close together, no peripheral vision. They're always moving forward
Speaker 1: in attack mode.
Speaker 3: So would kind of be bad at those sports that
Speaker 3: require any kind of spatial awareness though, Like they're terrible
Speaker 3: on defense.
Speaker 8: But man, they can find Russia basketball.
Speaker 4: Wait, a guy was cutting behind me.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, man, I sell the guard bringing the.
Speaker 6: I shouldn't exist. Is there feedback to coaching.
Speaker 1: I had an experience where I was at my parents'
Speaker 1: house for a couple of weeks and reading books off
Speaker 1: their shelf to my kids, and came across a book
Speaker 1: from a series that I realized was read to me
Speaker 1: from age like three to five. It was like a
Speaker 1: big part of my world, and I totally forgot it existed.
Speaker 4: It's called Sweet Pickles.
Speaker 1: Has anybody ever heard of Sweet Pickles?
Speaker 4: Sweet? I don't know.
Speaker 1: The books are not great, and they're like from the
Speaker 1: late seventies, which I was like.
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I remember these being in my school library.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were all over the place when I was
Speaker 1: a kid. I think they Yeah, they came out late
Speaker 1: seventies and then early eighties. They were all over the place.
Speaker 1: The story was a complete disaster that I really read
Speaker 1: to my kids. Yeah, just a mess where they're just like, dad,
Speaker 1: what is this shit? They're like, why is the fish
Speaker 1: in a spacesuit? Like he wants to be out of water?
Speaker 8: I guess, but.
Speaker 1: Like they don't even mention that shit. They just have
Speaker 1: one of the characters a fish in a spacesuit, like
Speaker 1: in a water spacesuit. But then he's like jumping over
Speaker 1: a river, which he but he treats the river like
Speaker 1: it's not full of his natural habitat water. But I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe is a saltwater fish. Anyways, sweet pickles, check it
Speaker 1: out or don't. What is something blake that you think's underrated?
Speaker 9: Making nachos at home is an underrated thing? Because okay, yeah,
Speaker 9: so I believe ordering them nacho delivery is insane like that.
Speaker 9: I think we can breathe that. Yeah, that insane.
Speaker 4: That's absolute foolishness.
Speaker 10: Yeah, your home.
Speaker 9: Now, there was a place that we would order a
Speaker 9: nacho kit from where the ingredients would come separately, which
Speaker 9: was kind of cool so it wouldn't mush up. But
Speaker 9: still you might as well just have the increase, you
Speaker 9: know what I mean, Like it was being marked up
Speaker 9: in a way that it didn't five dollars for this
Speaker 9: little cup.
Speaker 4: I can get a can for two.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I also order pieces of an inhaler to my home
Speaker 9: for one pot every time I need to use that.
Speaker 4: There is something as yourself.
Speaker 1: There are some times during the pandemic when like we
Speaker 1: would order food and they'd be like, all right, here
Speaker 1: are the ingredients, and like it's up to you to
Speaker 1: kind of put it together, and I just felt humiliated.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the best of the subway was selling their
Speaker 3: ship like their stock. You know, you can buy a
Speaker 3: whole bag of tuna fish and I'm like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what I like. Open up, open up those fucking cupboards.
Speaker 9: And is it measured out before they put it in
Speaker 9: a bag?
Speaker 4: No? Loose? Loose if you know the guy you get
Speaker 4: hooked up, do they give be a heavy one?
Speaker 1: But what's your home? Your home recipe?
Speaker 4: So we'll go chips and then.
Speaker 9: Interesting, yeah, and then we bake them twice, put them
Speaker 9: in the oven, pull it out, put it back in.
Speaker 8: No chips.
Speaker 9: Obviously the cheat well had a little on there, yeah, Klama.
Speaker 9: And then the key will put like whatever, treeso whatever
Speaker 9: on it and then add extra stuff afterwards, so you
Speaker 9: can't bake it. We'll put some saucea on it, but
Speaker 9: you can't do that for the whole duration of melting cheese,
Speaker 9: you know what I mean? Yeah, a little bit of
Speaker 9: sour cream some what else will we put on?
Speaker 4: Kranma and sour cream?
Speaker 10: We'll do one or the other.
Speaker 8: We'll do.
Speaker 9: Like a thick a thick dairy.
Speaker 1: We don't want you to feel judged here, but that's
Speaker 1: fucking disgusting.
Speaker 9: We don't want you to feel judged, but you're giving
Speaker 9: yourself an allergy, like you've trained your body.
Speaker 4: Like you're buying like the brand, like grandma.
Speaker 8: Bu your mouth.
Speaker 9: But yeah, no I will, yeah we will, yeah for sure.
Speaker 9: And no, but we like to mix that up and
Speaker 9: and then just like the other stuff that you put
Speaker 9: on there and but yeah, no real deviation.
Speaker 1: But it's it's like, are you ever made nachos at home?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you poker games if.
Speaker 9: You're gonna put me on the spot, you know, the
Speaker 9: frosted flakes on the on the side.
Speaker 3: An entire bag of sand, sand bags of sand bowl like, yeah,
Speaker 3: a root vegetable unwashed and dirt dirted vegetable. Yeah yeah, great, great,
Speaker 3: but yeah, no, it's it's also you can make as
Speaker 3: much as you want, is the fun part, So like
Speaker 3: you can eat until you're sick, where you know, it's
Speaker 3: a limited serving size, I think, and this is an
Speaker 3: important question. Are you a fan of just a canned
Speaker 3: cheese like you know, high school football game style chemical
Speaker 3: notches versus like melting the ship.
Speaker 9: On nots but on like cheese steaks a lead it,
Speaker 9: you know, So it's it's not an aversion to the
Speaker 9: fact that it's not like, but you.
Speaker 4: Prefer a real yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 9: It's not a food recognized by nature or the laws
Speaker 9: of nature. But I will yet half what you did.
Speaker 9: You can put that all over your skin and like
Speaker 9: go into the sea not get a sunburn.
Speaker 4: It's really good.
Speaker 1: That's your regimen.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, really.
Speaker 7: Blair, what's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 5: Okay, So I don't know if you guys are involved
Speaker 5: in this or not, and maybe the rest of the
Speaker 5: country right now probably wouldn't agree that this is something
Speaker 5: that's underrated. Oh but for me, the amount of joy
Speaker 5: it has brought me this summer. Love Island, USA. I'm
Speaker 5: sure it's been brought up, but I I had never
Speaker 5: seen Love Island before this season. Obviously I got involved
Speaker 5: due to one Aria automatics. I had never seen any
Speaker 5: of the UK seasons, and I became so immersed because
Speaker 5: it's on every night. Yeah, so, like I started to
Speaker 5: become very irritable should something interfere with my six to
Speaker 5: seven PM program, and I had to be home every
Speaker 5: night from six to seven. It was just incredible. It's
Speaker 5: over now, and who knows if I'll continue watching past this,
Speaker 5: but it was an incredible moment in time, and I
Speaker 5: encourage everyone to watch it.
Speaker 3: I've seen the UK version, and I remember during the summer,
Speaker 3: like one summer when I was there, like the people
Speaker 3: we were staying with it was They're like, yeah, we'd
Speaker 3: love to go out, but Love Island is about to
Speaker 3: come on, so no, And I was like, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I get it. I like a show that's on that consistently,
Speaker 3: that has this kind of drama that's easy to follow
Speaker 3: and intrigue. But yeah, I haven't watched this latest season
Speaker 3: of the US version.
Speaker 5: I've never heard it. Like, I didn't realize it was
Speaker 5: something nightly like there's something dystopian futuristic about it, but
Speaker 5: also really nostalgic, like the radio nightly after dinner in
Speaker 5: like nineteen thirty six or something, right.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, gather around the Victor Rola as we listened
Speaker 3: to Love Island.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really enjoyed it that.
Speaker 1: It also sounds like what like a Beach Boys song
Speaker 1: from that era would call having sex with someone is
Speaker 1: like taking them to Love Island, USA.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I took her own down to Love It's definitely
Speaker 3: like a Boardwalk T shirt. It's like, ask me how
Speaker 3: to get to Love Island USA. It's like a crew
Speaker 3: drawing of like finger hand circular gesture and it's like.
Speaker 7: The Boardwalk shirts.
Speaker 10: Man, I'm the Captain God.
Speaker 1: Boardwalk Shirt's incredible, and it they're putting a new show
Speaker 1: out every day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's over now, Like I don't know
Speaker 5: when the next season will come out, if it's not
Speaker 5: till next summer or something like that. But while it
Speaker 5: was on, it was every day.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, I'm not just saying that because we
Speaker 1: have one, but like the amount of editing and all
Speaker 1: the work that has to go into a reality show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like so it's it is odd that
Speaker 5: you're watching it like I think they edited it's like
Speaker 5: from the day before, so you're really watching music in
Speaker 5: current times.
Speaker 10: Pretty well, it's crazy.
Speaker 5: I think it's only like speaks long, but it was
Speaker 5: like hours an hour since TV and then really fast.
Speaker 5: I want I'm not going to even elaborate on it,
Speaker 5: but Ladies in Blue on Apple TV. It's in full
Speaker 5: Spanish and it's really good show.
Speaker 10: Oh is that the one about the cops?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3: I just got Apple Plus TV or TV whatever. It's
Speaker 3: called because I got an iPad, so it came with
Speaker 3: three months of that. But I that's a good one.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm seeing that add a lot.
Speaker 5: Oh really, I hadn't seen an adult like because Apple
Speaker 5: TV does not advertise it all, and it has the
Speaker 5: best shows far and far and wide above any streamer.
Speaker 5: It's like, there's so many good shows on there. Obviously
Speaker 5: I'm a TV freak.
Speaker 1: But it's amazing.
Speaker 7: What is uh, what's something you think is over it?
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sure someone has already said this, but it
Speaker 5: is really chapping my ass. And that is this demure bullshit.
Speaker 5: Stop saying demure. The wrard is ruid forever. And if
Speaker 5: I see or hear that, I'm gonna block you.
Speaker 10: Yeah it's I mean that TikTok trend.
Speaker 5: It's ruined my life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard that that TikTok person like got invited
Speaker 3: to the DNC.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and that feels right for.
Speaker 5: Her that, Like I think I think she's transitioned, Like
Speaker 5: I think I read that like it paid for her transition.
Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, I'm glad like this, all these
Speaker 5: wonderful things came out of that. But I just hate
Speaker 5: like when something becomes so ubiquitous like that, like where
Speaker 5: I feel like they can't breathe their escape right right.
Speaker 1: And it's also not like when people say it, it's
Speaker 1: just like a reference. I've not seen it used in
Speaker 1: a way that's like funny or interesting. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: a hey, this is a word, right, Yeah, we're just
Speaker 1: saying demure okay, right, okay.
Speaker 5: And I liked the word Jamir before this, like that
Speaker 5: was in my rotation and now I can never say
Speaker 5: it again until my last time bread Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're like, yes, I knew that band before
Speaker 1: they were big about.
Speaker 5: It's not even like that.
Speaker 11: It's not even like Demure in ninety eight.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, now it's I find it annoying as well.
Speaker 1: And I'm if I sound distracted, it's not because I'm
Speaker 1: editing Demure out of the outline for the rest of
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, oh my demure references.
Speaker 5: One more point to that, Like I am not one
Speaker 5: of those people that is like I have to claim
Speaker 5: my obscure knowledge and interest in something before it got popular,
Speaker 5: because I like a lot of really popular things, specifically,
Speaker 5: you know, like huge fantasy franchises in certain pop stars.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 10: No, one's making accusation.
Speaker 1: I felt felt okay making that joke because I knew
Speaker 1: it was so not true of you. Okay, okay, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be right back to
Speaker 1: talk and listen to what Donald Trump's up to.
Speaker 8: We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 4: We're back.
Speaker 1: And yeah, So just to kind of give people an introduction,
Speaker 1: although everybody should just go listen to episode zero, where
Speaker 1: you do a beautiful job of giving an introduction to
Speaker 1: the premise of the show. But one of the ideas
Speaker 1: is that these people who you know, organize the Unite
Speaker 1: the Right rally in Charlottesville, stage domestic terrorism, storm the
Speaker 1: Capitol on January sixth, They are associated with these big
Speaker 1: ideas and huge historical trends, but ultimately they often turn
Speaker 1: out to be just some guy. You compare to the
Speaker 1: end of a Scooby Doo episode, except Scooby Doo doesn't
Speaker 1: have the courage or run time to then like spend
Speaker 1: an hour digging into the weird backstories of.
Speaker 8: The people under the masks.
Speaker 4: But you do.
Speaker 1: You tell us what the fuck is going on with
Speaker 1: these people? And it's endlessly andered. Is there an example
Speaker 1: that you use to explain the premise of your show
Speaker 1: to someone who asks, like what your podcast is about?
Speaker 2: Oh man, they should have should have prepared me better
Speaker 2: for this marketing.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: No, but like you said, the idea is that they're
Speaker 2: all just these kind of sad little freaks, and they
Speaker 2: want us to believe that they're like the second coming
Speaker 2: of Hitler, right, that they're mighty and powerful and impressive
Speaker 2: and and you should be very scared of them.
Speaker 1: And that is a compliment that gets like thrown around.
Speaker 1: They're like people are like this person might be the
Speaker 1: second coming of Hitler, Like, and that's good, and that's
Speaker 1: what he wants.
Speaker 2: He wants you to think, like, oh, it's this powerful monster.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2: Like the things that they did are not serious, right, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, the end of an episode of Scooby Doo
Speaker 2: when they unmasked the you know, the caretaker who's been
Speaker 2: haunting the mansion, like he still did what they think
Speaker 2: the monster did. He said, a monster, He's just the
Speaker 2: weird old caretaker, right. No, So, I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: want to spoil in future episodes, but for the two
Speaker 2: episodes that are out now, you know, the first one
Speaker 2: was an exploration of Kevin Strome. He was a member
Speaker 2: of the neo Nazi group National Alliance, And you know,
Speaker 2: he thinks of himself as this sort of learned intellectual
Speaker 2: of race science and race purity, and he mix this
Speaker 2: little show every week since the nineties. And he's pedophile, right,
Speaker 2: he has been too Britain for childborn, and he's his
Speaker 2: commitment to racial purity is so extreme that he won't
Speaker 2: let the foods on his plate intermingle because that's too
Speaker 2: much like race mixing.
Speaker 4: Oh wait for yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Like you can't book Bravy on mashed potatoes
Speaker 2: because that's missagenation of flavors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the freaks. I do the normal thing. I put
Speaker 3: in a little teacup and I and I sip it. Well,
Speaker 3: I have one bite after I fully swallowed the mashed potatoes.
Speaker 3: But I mean, like to your point, right, Like, whenever
Speaker 3: we hear about these like violent plots or these groups
Speaker 3: that have like you know, acted out like all kinds
Speaker 3: of wild violence in physical space, like we create this
Speaker 3: image in our mind of like some fucking master criminal
Speaker 3: like with no soul that if like we saw on
Speaker 3: the street, we would immediately be like, oh, my god,
Speaker 3: run in the opposite direction. This person is fucking scary
Speaker 3: and they're dangerous, and like, clearly it's clear that all
Speaker 3: these guys are like not even close to being some
Speaker 3: kind of cloaked Marvel super villain, and like we would
Speaker 3: run in the opposite direction if we saw them on
Speaker 3: the street because they're literal just fucking creeps. What do
Speaker 3: you think is like the like, obviously there's a power
Speaker 3: to demystifying our sort of like reflexive tendency to be like, oh,
Speaker 3: this person because like what they're into is so odious
Speaker 3: and dangerous that they themselves must be dangerous. But like
Speaker 3: it's clear that you find there's a way to sort
Speaker 3: of by taking the curtain back, we're able to just
Speaker 3: sort of reckon with these kinds of characters or you know,
Speaker 3: not characters, human beings and like a much more objective
Speaker 3: but while also being like, look, these aren't the kinds
Speaker 3: of people who are like absolute like these masterminds that
Speaker 3: we do need to fear.
Speaker 4: Is that sort of part of it?
Speaker 3: I know at one point you said, it's not about
Speaker 3: it's about understanding the creeps, like in every facet of
Speaker 3: our lives that they do exist, right, And.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, on a broadle broader social level,
Speaker 2: just you know, emotionally, understanding that this isn't some sort
Speaker 2: of amorphous ontological evil is empowering, right because like, right,
Speaker 2: you can't fight a monster. That's disempowering. It feels like, well,
Speaker 2: this is just this is something we can't change. There
Speaker 2: there are monsters in the world, and it's just a guy.
Speaker 2: It's just a guy who's afraid to talk to women,
Speaker 2: right right, It's a guy who got a free sex
Speaker 2: doll heads he complained to the fucking customer support.
Speaker 3: And you're like, oh, okay, huh, that's weird. But he's
Speaker 3: making bombs too, Yeah, well, yeah he is.
Speaker 2: Right, like he knows how to make a pipe bomb,
Speaker 2: but like he's fucking a used sex.
Speaker 3: Doll, right right right, You're like, yeah, not now, it's
Speaker 3: now it's giving me the creeps in a completely different
Speaker 3: way for sure.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The episodisode about the Civil War re enactment false Flag
Speaker 1: is so wild. But before before we get into the
Speaker 1: details of that, I do just want to talk about
Speaker 1: this idea of weirdness because it has become the focus
Speaker 1: for the Democrats and the presidential campaign and it happened
Speaker 1: as you're preparing to launch a show focused on the
Speaker 1: weirdness of right wing fascists, their policies, their personalities. What
Speaker 1: was it that made you focus in on weirdness? Like,
Speaker 1: based on the content, it feels like it just naturally
Speaker 1: took you in that direction. But first of all, was
Speaker 1: it like to have that emerge as like a central
Speaker 1: Democrat talking point? And do you have an opinion on
Speaker 1: how they're doing with regards to calling it out?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: When I think arriving at the idea that, you know,
Speaker 2: talking about these guys in the context of their idiosyncrasies
Speaker 2: and their their their weirdness, the fact that they're out
Speaker 2: of step with the world world arose naturally for me, right, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm researching these guys in the context of domestic terrorism
Speaker 2: and trying to understand that, and something I keep coming
Speaker 2: across is like everything about the way they engage with
Speaker 2: the world is weird, right, Like, it's not just their
Speaker 2: ideas about race, their ideas about the Jews, or their
Speaker 2: ideas about how political power should be achieved mainly through violence.
Speaker 2: That's not separate from the fact that they're just weird
Speaker 2: on a personal level. These things are intertwined, Like they
Speaker 2: have all these ideas about, you know, whether women should
Speaker 2: be able to vote because they just have weird ideas
Speaker 2: about how the world works, and so that was sort
Speaker 2: of a natural progression for me and I think, you know, separately,
Speaker 2: the Democrats have recently arrived at the same place that
Speaker 2: like their weird personal lives and the weird shit they
Speaker 2: want to do to your personal life are obviously related.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It feels like for the longest time, like prior to this,
Speaker 3: like we were using very like academic terms to like
Speaker 3: accurately describe like their ideologies. So it's like, well, they're
Speaker 3: these are ethno nationalists, these are proto fascist model, like
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And like it does in
Speaker 3: a way it clearly identifies like where they're you know,
Speaker 3: political might how like where their ideologies lie in terms
Speaker 3: of like a political spectrum. But the weird sort of
Speaker 3: cuts through that to not only be like, well it
Speaker 3: is weird to already be so like ant like like
Speaker 3: the race mixing is terrible. It's like, what are you
Speaker 3: a fucking Civil war ghost? Like what the fuck are
Speaker 3: we talking about? But the weirdness it does sort of
Speaker 3: in a way help sort of cut through. I think
Speaker 3: a lot of these like sort of very academic terms
Speaker 3: that are used to accurately describe them and really sort
Speaker 3: of remind people of like maybe what is sort of
Speaker 3: what we consider normal for the most part in terms
Speaker 3: of like it's not being obsessed with people's genitals, it's
Speaker 3: not being obsessed with like children's genitals, it's not a
Speaker 3: being obsessed with like, you know, miscegenation or whatever these
Speaker 3: things are, that these are all like all of these
Speaker 3: things that they believe are weird are actually normal, and
Speaker 3: now it's it is actually them now that has crossed
Speaker 3: over into this space. So I feel like that was
Speaker 3: sort of like the one thing that I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: I think it's it's able to connect in a much
Speaker 3: easier way for people because it's much more conversational. But
Speaker 3: it does feel like a little bit I'm sure you're
Speaker 3: a bit frustrated, as someone who's been reporting on this
Speaker 3: for a long time, not to be not necessarily that
Speaker 3: it's like the Democrats, but that the warnings about being
Speaker 3: like these people are dangerous wasn't sort of enough until
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, wait, they're weird.
Speaker 2: We're getting we're getting a ratings bump from being interested
Speaker 2: in this, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, betterly than never.
Speaker 2: I'm not complaining. Sure, it's a weird coincidence, but I
Speaker 2: think the reason it cuts to the quick so badly
Speaker 2: for them, the reason it's like so shockingly hurtful to
Speaker 2: them to be called weird, is because they're whole ethos
Speaker 2: is that we are the arbiters of what is acceptable
Speaker 2: and what is normal, and we want to return to
Speaker 2: this nineteen fifties Norman Rockwell painting of imagined American life,
Speaker 2: and that's what's normal. And so you're the ones that
Speaker 2: are weird for you know, continuing to move forward in
Speaker 2: a society that progressed is with time, right, and so
Speaker 2: saying like, actually that that's not normal, you're the weird one.
Speaker 2: You're the weird one. It undercuts their their belief about
Speaker 2: you know, their their reason to exist.
Speaker 1: And they their personal lives so often fall completely out
Speaker 1: of line with that ethos that they claim to like
Speaker 1: they are. It's in line with it, but it's just
Speaker 1: like a weird. When you first encounter they're like, well,
Speaker 1: all I care about is families, and then you see
Speaker 1: like the strange directions that spins off into and then
Speaker 1: you look at their personal lives, it's I don't know,
Speaker 1: I guess I guess it's unexpected at first, and then
Speaker 1: it's like totally expected once you take the time to
Speaker 1: think about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, like the it's you know, it's spoiler for
Speaker 2: this week's episode, but like, you know, these guys who
Speaker 2: want to talk about you know, traditional white values and
Speaker 2: Western civilization and you know, restructuring society so that we
Speaker 2: have you know, traditional Western values. One of the guys
Speaker 2: in this terror cell was making degrading hardcore pornography and
Speaker 2: it's like, that's not that's not the world you're talking
Speaker 2: about building, right right?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean from your perspective, from like looking
Speaker 3: at all these people for years, and you know, even
Speaker 3: like this latest episode with the Civil War reenactor, Like,
Speaker 3: is it that they're just that they're sort of repressing
Speaker 3: some dimension of who they are and that's that's manifesting
Speaker 3: them in like this like externalized hatred of people that
Speaker 3: like might intersect with their own like weird interests or
Speaker 3: feelings or how do you sort of look at these
Speaker 3: people sort of through the prism of like what they're espousing,
Speaker 3: but also the context of like their personal lives, like
Speaker 3: how like how do those things or interact like in
Speaker 3: terms of like how you've how you've looked at these people.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's a question for a psychologists. I mean
Speaker 2: sometimes these sometimes these manifestations are like desire to control.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of fascists they want to control society
Speaker 2: just the way they want to control their wife or
Speaker 2: their children. And so for a lot of pedophiles, it's
Speaker 2: about the exertion of control over a powerless victim, and
Speaker 2: that's kind of what they want to do to society.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, I don't think the cognitive dissonance
Speaker 2: matters to them at all. Like you know, you see
Speaker 2: a lot of white supremacists with Latino wives like that
Speaker 2: cognitive dissonance is irrelevant to them, right, So, like there's
Speaker 2: no making sense of it as a psychological drive. It
Speaker 2: just the rules don't apply to me. I'm just going
Speaker 2: to do this to society.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because psychology is like not a thing. It's not
Speaker 1: even like concepts in their head. They're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what I do, Like my shadow self are
Speaker 1: you talking about?
Speaker 2: I mean, like maybe maybe we can like necromance, Freud
Speaker 2: and get them to take a look at this. Like
Speaker 2: for years I had this Nazi cyberstalker who would send
Speaker 2: me these messages that were like really graphically about like
Speaker 2: sexual fantasies involving feces. Yeah, and it's like that that
Speaker 2: doesn't involve me, right, right, Maybe you should talk talk
Speaker 2: to Sigmund Freud about that, Like you're stuck in the
Speaker 2: anal development stage or something. I don't know, so mixed bag, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean but I feel like historians, like or at
Speaker 1: least the History Channel like kind of does it with Hitler, right,
Speaker 1: Like Hitler behind closed Doors is not this amorphous ontological evil, right,
Speaker 1: He's driven by very strange demons and a lot of
Speaker 1: scatological you know shit. And then but then I feel like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it popped in my head when you
Speaker 1: were talking about Richard Spencer, like when he first came
Speaker 1: on the scene years ago, and it felt like the
Speaker 1: mainstream media was like into him, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, They're like, oh, finally like a handsome, well
Speaker 2: spoken Nazi. Yeah yeah, we can put on TV.
Speaker 1: Right because they want, yeah, they want a Nazi that
Speaker 1: is like central casting of a fascist in a non
Speaker 1: comedy movie. But when you look at them, it's just
Speaker 1: doctor Strange loves all the way down right, just time
Speaker 1: after time. It's like, nah, they have like weird suppressed
Speaker 1: urges and repressed repressed ideas that are like bursting out
Speaker 1: of them in these strange ways.
Speaker 4: But it does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the real Richard Spencer is the Richard Spencer in
Speaker 2: that leaked audio from the evening of Unite the Rights,
Speaker 2: Like the rally got canceled. They didn't get to give
Speaker 2: their speeches because there was a terrorist event, and he
Speaker 2: was so mad that he didn't get to give his speech.
Speaker 2: He's like purple in the face, screaming about how like
Speaker 2: they don't get to do this to me, they don't
Speaker 2: get to do this to me, and he starts busting
Speaker 2: out racial slurs that you would have to look up
Speaker 2: in a dictionary, like I think he called someone an
Speaker 2: octoroon or something like.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, yeah wow, take it all the way back.
Speaker 2: But just like that sort of petulant, childish rage, like
Speaker 2: you could put a suit and tie on a Nazi,
Speaker 2: but he's still just an angry little guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean, because I think so many of these people
Speaker 3: have like very similar like they're similar themes in their lives,
Speaker 3: which are there operating in this bizarre parallel reality. But
Speaker 3: when they're like forced to reconcile their perceived world and
Speaker 3: the one they actually live in, they just go deeper
Speaker 3: into the void because it's just that like that recon
Speaker 3: like that sort of dissonance is like too much. It's
Speaker 3: like no, no, no, And now they like sort of
Speaker 3: increasingly become more hell bent on bringing their fantasy world
Speaker 3: to life like upon the rest of us. And it's
Speaker 3: like when they inevitably fail and realize they don't have
Speaker 3: the power or means to create the world, they typically
Speaker 3: will just resort to violence or destruction because if I
Speaker 3: can't make something, then I can destroy it. And either way,
Speaker 3: like I think, there's just that feeling of powerlessness that
Speaker 3: has to be addressed, and this sort of.
Speaker 2: Direction construction of this alternate reality. It just keeps coming
Speaker 2: up sort of recurring theme in these stories that I'm telling,
Speaker 2: Like I think this Scot left out of episode one,
Speaker 2: but after Kevin Strome was arrested for possession of child pornography,
Speaker 2: he so he was the webmaster for a neo Nazi group,
Speaker 2: so he knew how to use the Internet, right.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 2: He was an Internet guy, you know, from the nineties,
Speaker 2: so early internet adopter, and he made a website that
Speaker 2: convincingly looked like an actual local news outlet, and he
Speaker 2: peppered in like real local news stories, stuff about the weather,
Speaker 2: stuff about you know, just like local goings on. But
Speaker 2: like every third article on this fake newspaper website was
Speaker 2: about how actually Kevin Strom isn't a pervert.
Speaker 4: In other news, like what, like this guy really not bad.
Speaker 3: It's like, I mean, it's the exact same thing, like
Speaker 3: even with the Civil War reenactor guy like also creating
Speaker 3: fake news articles like that, but he was such a boomer.
Speaker 3: He's like cutting and pasting shit onto physical paper and
Speaker 3: then xeroxing it and be like you've seen this article
Speaker 3: and it's like what sharing it with like a teenager
Speaker 3: he's working with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, okay, man, this to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Sniper's got a bunch of people. It's like
Speaker 4: what newspapers. That doesn't matter, man, it happened.
Speaker 7: It happened to you too, huh yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but it is like this very weird and
Speaker 3: then like even like this the sex doll thing, like
Speaker 3: it's a like there's just about creating, like insulating themselves
Speaker 3: truly in like this world of half truths or total
Speaker 3: fabrications to kind of like, yeah, I don't know, it's
Speaker 3: very they want.
Speaker 2: They want to live in a cigarette ad from a
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty five issue of Good Housekeeping, Like the world
Speaker 2: you're imagining was never real, Like not only can you
Speaker 2: not go back to it, it was never real? Like
Speaker 2: that was on queludes, right exactly.
Speaker 1: She's so high that mom' serving that turkey, like that
Speaker 1: turkey is not cooked middle Yeah, yeah, she is out
Speaker 1: of her mind. Yeah, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we'll come back. And I just wanted to talk a
Speaker 1: few of the details about the subjects of your first
Speaker 1: couple episodes because they are absolute bangers.
Speaker 8: We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 10: We're back, We're back.
Speaker 1: Remember that Poulter guys too, and from nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 1: remember that guys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, all right, so let's go big news.
Speaker 5: I don't watch scary movies into a week for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm scary.
Speaker 8: That was Bolser Guys too, scary.
Speaker 10: I think Polser guys fucked me up.
Speaker 7: Old guys fucked me all the way up. I don't
Speaker 7: even remember.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever saw Polter Guys Too,
Speaker 1: but I saw the trailer at the first movie I
Speaker 1: ever watched in a theater, which was Rocky. For the
Speaker 1: trailer for Polter Guys Too played and I was very frightened.
Speaker 3: It looks like the still image from the trailer looks
Speaker 3: like a character that Walton Goggins could play.
Speaker 5: Okay, of course, Well you could play anything. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: of course uncle.
Speaker 7: Baby Billy like ten years in.
Speaker 8: The Yeah, that's Uncle baby Billy.
Speaker 10: That's Uncle baby Billy.
Speaker 7: Goddamn good teeth in his.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That guy freaked me the fuck out. And he's terrified
Speaker 1: just and he's just an old man in a hat,
Speaker 1: but his general vibe is very frightening.
Speaker 11: Caroline, that's what the guy said.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, I'm with Blair. I don't
Speaker 3: I don't need that ship. I'm already like, I have
Speaker 3: enough anwer nervousness in my life. I don't need content
Speaker 3: to amplify that.
Speaker 11: Caroline, come towards the light.
Speaker 1: And the light is a TV. I have one of
Speaker 1: those in my home. That's scary as fun. I could
Speaker 1: be Caroline, all right, And that's just a preview of
Speaker 1: the type of content you won't be getting on chick
Speaker 1: fil A's streaming service. Wait, I feel like we might
Speaker 1: have mentioned this earlier. Maybe not, but it seems like
Speaker 1: a joke as a headline. But just when you thought
Speaker 1: streaming entertainment couldn't be any more dire, news just broke
Speaker 1: to chick fil A is quote moving aggressively into the
Speaker 1: entertainment space with their very own streaming platform. They will
Speaker 1: license and create original family friendly shows, most of which
Speaker 1: will be unscripted, so you know, wow, fun, incredible chick
Speaker 1: fil A reality shows.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: For documentaries, Yeah, I'm sure it's really in depth documentary
Speaker 1: is about you know.
Speaker 10: Yeah, why chick fil a is a good place for
Speaker 10: a twelve year old to work or something?
Speaker 5: Just chick fil A if you're listening to this. I'm
Speaker 5: available to be paid one hundred million dollars to be
Speaker 5: filmed doing monck Banks of you Chicken, thank.
Speaker 11: You Banks, thank you, you do muck bang content.
Speaker 5: I have incredible plans to do to become to transition
Speaker 5: fully into being a TikTok monk banger.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 10: Yeah I love wake Okay, Well, I would love to
Speaker 10: know more about it.
Speaker 5: But like Chase version. Don't get any freaky ideas, you
Speaker 5: sickos out there. Okay, I'll be fully closed up to
Speaker 5: my chin, just absolutely plowing.
Speaker 7: Actually this might be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Chick fil A like just you're wearing like
Speaker 1: sister wives, like where like a turtle turtle long sleeve
Speaker 1: everything and then just gorging on Chick fil A.
Speaker 3: But you have to do your hair like super Southern conservatives,
Speaker 3: like big, big and high.
Speaker 5: That's right, someone has a shock under the back of
Speaker 5: my head.
Speaker 7: That's actually part.
Speaker 8: Of what I love this show.
Speaker 10: Put my favorite show on.
Speaker 5: I actually love that we're not able to stream on Sundays.
Speaker 5: I think that's rarey.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it just goes.
Speaker 5: On Saturday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this isn't a total shock for those of
Speaker 1: us who monitor Chick fil A closely.
Speaker 7: Last year, the company.
Speaker 1: Released a job posting looking for a quote entertainment producer
Speaker 1: for a new half that doesn't even sound like a
Speaker 1: real It was yeah, I know, right, entertainment producer, any entertainment.
Speaker 7: They're new to the space miles.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's like when I see producer on hinge,
Speaker 5: I was like, what does that mean? SoundCloud? Are you like?
Speaker 4: Uh No?
Speaker 3: I actually once I moved about four flats of crystal
Speaker 3: guyser water from a sound stage to a transpo van.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean I usually I used to when
Speaker 3: I was like a PA, I would be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a produce I'm a production system.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, anything.
Speaker 1: So this is where it gets weird. Though, So Chick
Speaker 1: fil A, and none of the previous part was.
Speaker 7: Weird, that is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Uh So Chick fil A has already been producing entertainment
Speaker 1: and we just like didn't notice because we have better
Speaker 1: things to do.
Speaker 8: With our lives.
Speaker 1: But their YouTube page has an original animated series about
Speaker 1: like my friend and I were talking about this. My
Speaker 1: friend is a writer who's, you know, struggling like many
Speaker 1: writers are. We're talking about this streaming service and we're like,
Speaker 1: what is it going to be like those cows from
Speaker 1: the ads, like just like like the universe of like
Speaker 1: the cows who can't spell that much, but like ken
Speaker 1: still write telling us to eat chicken. And I was
Speaker 1: like joking when I said that they already have like
Speaker 1: an an animated series where those cows are basically domestic
Speaker 1: terrorists that routinely target a burger chain that murders and
Speaker 1: sells their friends and family, and it's yeah, it's aimed
Speaker 1: at kids. It's about domestic terrorism and like these people,
Speaker 1: these these cows being mad that they're being murdered. There's
Speaker 1: also like Coca Cola product place went all over the place,
Speaker 1: but it has five million views on the most recent
Speaker 1: one that like went up a week ago. Uh, there's
Speaker 1: an earlier one from last year that has thirty two
Speaker 1: million views. Oh so I'm like very confused and slightly
Speaker 1: suspicious over those numbers. Like I don't want to say
Speaker 1: because I'm sure they're like more sophisticated than that, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that they they're posting, said entertainment producer. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming they have like people who are telling them more
Speaker 1: detail about the metrics and like where those viewers are
Speaker 1: coming from, because it would be very funny if they
Speaker 1: like just got fooled by like a social media firm
Speaker 1: that's like buying clicks and views to their video. Look
Speaker 1: at this, We're gonna double down and launch an entire
Speaker 1: streaming platform because of these.
Speaker 4: Kid Are they going to charge people for this?
Speaker 7: That's a great question.
Speaker 3: Or is it just like that, Because that's the difference.
Speaker 3: I'm like nobody is I don't give a fuck what's
Speaker 3: on there. Nobody's fucking buying chick fil a streaming service.
Speaker 3: But unless it's like you know, they try and get
Speaker 3: people into like buy a fucking kids meet or some shit. Maybe,
Speaker 3: but even then the content doesn't make sense. Like brands
Speaker 3: that make like content like this, it always fucking stinks.
Speaker 3: So maybe it is just a way for them to
Speaker 3: like create more. I mean, because obviously the family that
Speaker 3: owns Chick fil A is super conservative and freaking out
Speaker 3: there with it. So yeah, maybe this is just their
Speaker 3: way to be like, yeah, man, we got people to
Speaker 3: sit through some weird white supremacists ethn national cartoons or
Speaker 3: or talk shows, you know for kids.
Speaker 10: Is there get the message out.
Speaker 1: Like a conceivable universe? Because I like all bets are
Speaker 1: off after like skibbity toilet seeing the view counts on
Speaker 1: skibbity toilet, realizing I don't know anything about YouTube. Is
Speaker 1: there a world where people are that into Chick fil
Speaker 1: A and that they want to see like an expanded
Speaker 1: universe of those cows?
Speaker 5: No, Okay, everyone thinks because one movie Barbie, that everything
Speaker 5: is like an ip now.
Speaker 7: Exactly, and now we are fucked.
Speaker 1: It fucked us so hard in a way I hadn't
Speaker 1: realized one.
Speaker 5: Well done, just one in a million execution, and now
Speaker 5: we're all ruined forether.
Speaker 10: Right now, it's like, what about our cow billboards? Can
Speaker 10: that be a show?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 10: The ones that misspell more when they're like eat more.
Speaker 5: No, I can't. I just know DJ Tanner is going
Speaker 5: to be at the top of their list. She's going
Speaker 5: to be a huge get for them.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely, like showing you how to make
Speaker 3: other meals out of like Chick fil A meals or
Speaker 3: something No no, and her.
Speaker 12: Video being like I want the opening ceremonies at the Olympics,
Speaker 12: And I was just sad, to be honest, I was
Speaker 12: just so sad to have Christ to be demigrated.
Speaker 3: I'm like Christ, Christ, but Jesus Christ. But yeah, I mean, like,
Speaker 3: I guess the one thing that they do have is
Speaker 3: the fact that the like the Kathy family or the
Speaker 3: guy the owner is like behind one of the biggest
Speaker 3: like physical production spaces outside of Allywood.
Speaker 1: He owned, so he He's spent millions and millions of
Speaker 1: dollars turning a bunch of farmland in Atlanta into like
Speaker 1: a massive the biggest movie studio or production studio outside
Speaker 1: of Burbank in the United States, So.
Speaker 3: They shoot all the Marvel movies there, man, so maybe
Speaker 3: we'll get a Christ level, more Marvel level christ superhero.
Speaker 1: They've just just around your question of like, are they
Speaker 1: planning to charge for this? They might have ulterior motives.
Speaker 1: They've also been releasing in addition to their wildly popular
Speaker 1: Cows Fighting for the against the slaughter of their Brethren
Speaker 1: for kids, they've also been releasing an animated Christmas series
Speaker 1: called The Stories of Evergreen Hills for years and and
Speaker 1: that series has been violating privacy laws by harvesting personally
Speaker 1: identifiable information about the people who view it on their website.
Speaker 1: So they might be just like trying to build out
Speaker 1: immense data profiles of people who are interested in Chick
Speaker 1: fil A and question Mark. Question Mark control the World,
Speaker 1: the Thousand Cash Signs God.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, look zygang let us am I would look
Speaker 3: Chick fil A came laid out to the West Coast,
Speaker 3: So I don't know if maybe these are time Mark
Speaker 3: honored cartoons that everyone is waiting for, But part of
Speaker 3: me is a bit dubious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our success, our viewers or what if our listeners
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, man, like I love those cartoons, dude.
Speaker 3: I found out about the daily Zeitgeist through the Evergreen
Speaker 3: Hills series.
Speaker 1: Got a Small, Got a small contingent of ZiT Gang
Speaker 1: in the Evergreen Hills community. It seems like this is
Speaker 1: basically like we get these bad idea is because we
Speaker 1: live in a world where one person wields the power
Speaker 1: that like one hundred people should have through just like
Speaker 1: massive wealth consolidation and accumulation, and so like this person
Speaker 1: who should have you know, one hundred more, you know,
Speaker 1: he should be rich, but instead he is like this
Speaker 1: industry spanning mogul because of how our systems set up
Speaker 1: and so.
Speaker 3: Oh right, rather than like I have a successful franchises
Speaker 3: of a chicken sandwich story, I.
Speaker 1: Am a chicken mate. And that's where it ends, right.
Speaker 1: But because we have a thing where it's like you
Speaker 1: can just keep getting richer and richer and richer and richer.
Speaker 1: And because like that one brain of the person who
Speaker 1: has all that money is only so big, they're going
Speaker 1: to try and do everything because they have the power
Speaker 1: to do everything. And so instead of what what should
Speaker 1: be happening is like a new streaming service gets launched
Speaker 1: by somebody who has a good idea for one, right,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah yeah, But instead of that, it's the
Speaker 1: guy who has all the money at Chick fil A
Speaker 1: because he has the power to just like make it happen.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, that's the America I want to
Speaker 4: live in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just you know, just want to brute force my
Speaker 3: own streaming platform and have people just be like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: because I like underwrote a huge segment of the Atlanta
Speaker 3: film industry.
Speaker 10: Yeah wow wow wow wow wow.
Speaker 1: So it just seems weird, like for a brand that
Speaker 1: has only ever gotten themselves in trouble when it comes
Speaker 1: to like cultural output, you know, it's like that that
Speaker 1: is not your strong suit. That's where you get boycotts
Speaker 1: and like people thinking you're the fucking worst.
Speaker 5: But that's what they think otherwise, clearly right, they're trying
Speaker 5: to put a steak in the sand. We're not afraid
Speaker 5: to ruffle feathers. We're the chicken guys.
Speaker 10: Yeah, if anything, we'd like to fucking.
Speaker 5: Run shape the culture with our through our chicken sandwich shit.
Speaker 3: Right again, just like Blair said, Chick fil A, if
Speaker 3: you're looking for like some unscripted content. I will I
Speaker 3: will get high on camera if that.
Speaker 10: If that's something that fits into the mixing, I second that.
Speaker 5: I have a lot of ideas. Yeah, mister Chick fil A,
Speaker 5: if you're listening, I like his sauses.
Speaker 11: Okay, look, we missed.
Speaker 3: I missed the quibi checks, you know, Jeffrey Katzenberg, I
Speaker 3: could have got one of those coveted quibi checks.
Speaker 4: Miss that.
Speaker 10: So if you're again, you could have literally.
Speaker 1: Made anything nobody ever saw it. You could have made
Speaker 1: the shittiest thing ever gotten paid, like just like completely
Speaker 1: phoned it in. Like that is really a failure on
Speaker 1: my part. I feel like not not getting it, not
Speaker 1: getting the quibi check, and me and everybody, Yeah, everybody
Speaker 1: missed the quibi check. Like, oh, we could have just
Speaker 1: been because we all knew it was going to fail.
Speaker 1: But that's no reason not to take their money, right,
Speaker 1: they're gonna know.
Speaker 5: I went in their offices once it looked the way
Speaker 5: Koly Kardashian's pantry looks, with like just walls of beautiful
Speaker 5: candy organized in jars.
Speaker 10: Oh really, it was exquisite.
Speaker 5: It really was something to see.
Speaker 10: When you could eat the candy.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 10: It was asked a question like a five year old.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and you can eat the candy now.
Speaker 5: That was That was a five hundred thousand dollars candy
Speaker 5: jar wall. It was impressive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well look again, bring back Quibbi, bring it back.
Speaker 4: Let us we missed one of those checks.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, bring back Quibbi, I think is where
Speaker 1: we try to end all our podcasts. So thank you
Speaker 1: Blair for joining reminding us saying these important things about
Speaker 1: the future of entertainment.
Speaker 5: And I just have one more thing to say, if
Speaker 5: you don't mind, yes, please, I did see Just to
Speaker 5: clear I was engaged. I couldn't want the d n C.
Speaker 5: But I saw a clip of Tim Waltz talking about
Speaker 5: talking football and I was like, I'm about to run
Speaker 5: through a freaking wall right now. And then and I
Speaker 5: was like, oh no gold and then and then I
Speaker 5: saw I woke up this morning on that godless site
Speaker 5: that I go on, and I saw these people shitting
Speaker 5: on his beautiful son, who I was like, yeah, him
Speaker 5: crying made I was crying immediately, you know. And I
Speaker 5: was like, I'm gonna have to beat some ass. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's why. I was just like what's her name?
Speaker 7: That ghoul In and Coulter.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm gonna take you down, your skinny
Speaker 5: little skeleton, mouthy ass witch, shut up right.
Speaker 3: It's and it's also while they're talking like it's funny
Speaker 3: every d n C night there find a way to
Speaker 3: attack someone's kid, Like whether it was you know L. M. Hoff, Yeah,
Speaker 3: like the night before or then this time it's like
Speaker 3: this seventeen year old. They're like, this kid.
Speaker 11: Is crying because he loves his dad.
Speaker 7: What about weird is going on with that?
Speaker 11: And then like but also like Tim Wallas has talked.
Speaker 3: About how like his son is like ADHD and like
Speaker 3: a nonverbal like learning disorder, like just like all this
Speaker 3: other stuff, and they're still like what the whoa, what's
Speaker 3: going on with this kid?
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're like but they're like, whoah, bitch, I'm like,
Speaker 5: oh sorry, your son would never speak to you in public.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 1: It's so telling that they are so fixated on these
Speaker 1: people with like adoring, loving kids, where like they're not
Speaker 1: they're no longer invited to Thanksgiving and Christmas because they're
Speaker 1: fucking monsters.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like normally, you know, I feel in politics is
Speaker 5: really like this could be slander. I'm not sure, like
Speaker 5: a really rancid industry. Like I don't really trust even
Speaker 5: the liberal side. I just vote, tried to vote with
Speaker 5: my soul, with the lesser of two evils. I think
Speaker 5: there's a lot of problems on both sides. Yes, But
Speaker 5: when I saw that ship this morning, I was just like, oh,
Speaker 5: this is just like a report makes me sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. There's like these moments where it's
Speaker 1: just like, God, I do not like a lot of
Speaker 1: the what's going on with the Democrats, and yet a
Speaker 1: lot of broad the Republicans are so much worse. And yeah,
Speaker 1: we can hold both of those thoughts in our Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely at.
Speaker 7: The same time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's the way we have to be.
Speaker 5: We have to hold complexity because that's the truth of nature.
Speaker 11: Oh, talent well said, that's all I had to say.
Speaker 5: But the football speech was really good. I loved it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we got to with the football speech.
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.
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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend. And I will
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