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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles you

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Speaker 1: be are thrilled to be joined in our third seats

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Speaker 1: by a journalist who's been published in plays like The

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Speaker 1: Guardian Enslaved. You probably already follow her on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Socialist dog Mom for her in depth investigative work on

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Speaker 1: white supremacist, neo Nazis and hate groups in the US.

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Speaker 1: Her new podcast for Cool Zone is Weird Little Guys.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome Molly Kongu.

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Speaker 2: Intro. Glad to be here.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was weird to do that when we were

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Speaker 3: just talking, so let's well pretend I didn't just scream up.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, what's up. Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pumped about it.

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Speaker 4: The show is so good.

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Speaker 1: Weird Little Guys, Well, yeah, well we're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: it that the timing, Like, I'm just curious to hear

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Speaker 1: how it felt as the entire Democratic Party kind of

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Speaker 1: coalesced around the messaging of like what if we called

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Speaker 1: these guys weird, like as your podcast is about to

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Speaker 1: come out, basically making that point.

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Speaker 2: I mean like cynically, that's marketing you couldn't engineer, right,

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Speaker 2: that's the SEO on that is beautiful. But at the

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Speaker 2: same time, like you know, people are like, oh, you're

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Speaker 2: just aping democratic messaging. It's like I don't. First of all,

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Speaker 2: this is this is my first job in you know,

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Speaker 2: in audio media. But so maybe people don't know. But

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Speaker 2: the production cycle on this show, like if we could

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Speaker 2: turn around a whole show from the day Tim Waltz

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Speaker 2: called him weird, Like the trailer came out like two

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Speaker 2: days later, like do you think, right, do you think

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Speaker 2: the art department mocked this up yesterday?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It's like take like two three hours here, and nobody

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Speaker 3: could have thought of like that way to describe these

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Speaker 3: weird dudes.

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Speaker 2: Like now, I have been saying that for literal years

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Speaker 2: and that's that's why the show's called that.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: He's like in a meeting months ago, I was you know,

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Speaker 2: we're sort of talking about production of the show. Is

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Speaker 2: like a regular like work business meeting, and I just

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Speaker 2: can't help myself. I'm always looking at a weird little guy.

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Speaker 2: So I'm you know, interjecting, you know, how is everybody's

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Speaker 2: day going? What are we doing? And I'm like, you, guys,

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Speaker 2: I just found the weirdest little guy. And so if

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Speaker 2: you wrote it down her little notebook. And that's why

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Speaker 2: it's the name of the show, because like I.

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Speaker 3: Always like, yeah, yeah, the only way to only way

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Speaker 3: to describe it, only way to describe it.

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Speaker 1: What is something from your search history that's realing about

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Speaker 1: who you are.

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Speaker 6: I have been searching a thing from my childhood, which

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Speaker 6: is the characters in a like game franchise called Backyard Sports.

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Speaker 6: There's just an announcement today that they're gonna they're going

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Speaker 6: to bring back the backyard Sports games, which are the

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Speaker 6: names are just like backyard football, backyard baseball, backyard soccer.

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Speaker 6: And I played it for PC like all the time,

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Speaker 6: and it has a very passionate, devoted fan base. I

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Speaker 6: think of kids who played it. And they just posted

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Speaker 6: a trailer today that it's gonna come back. Yeah, and

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Speaker 6: that's right, Victor.

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Speaker 4: It's awesome.

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Speaker 6: I'm seeing a chat already in the table. We're loving it.

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Speaker 3: This is like that gap where Okay, so it came

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Speaker 3: out in ninety seven. I'm in seventh grade. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, what backyard sports? What is this?

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Speaker 3: And then I'm like, oh, yeah, this is the era

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Speaker 4: Producer.

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Speaker 1: Victor in the chat wrote, Yo, that's pretty exciting.

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Speaker 4: Double X.

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Speaker 1: There it is, Alex. I hate to bring it to

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Speaker 1: you that Victor's chats are actually unrelated from the conversation

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Speaker 1: we're having. He just does that throughout the thing based

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Speaker 1: on what's going on in his.

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Speaker 7: In his living room.

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably watching a replay of the Dodgers game.

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Speaker 6: It's not a good bird outside.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, was it sports?

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Speaker 4: He just said, I just wanted slots. Are you hey,

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Speaker 4: you're not at the casino again? Are you sure? Just

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Speaker 4: one slots? Yeah? Remote work man. We are.

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Speaker 3: The games just like super simple like video game versions

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Speaker 6: I'd say it's like it's the right simplicity, Like it's

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Speaker 6: realistic Madden er FIFA or something. Right, and and it

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Speaker 6: also I don't know if he knew or got word

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Speaker 6: of it, but a couple of days ago, a real

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Speaker 6: baseball player named Bobby Witt Junior had a custom bat

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Speaker 6: with the player Pablo Sanchez printed on it. Pablo Sanchez

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Speaker 6: as a character in the Backgyard Sports and the best one.

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Speaker 6: He's a secret weapon. So it's it's very fun that

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Speaker 6: this is like back. I feel like I'm a child again.

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Speaker 4: It's great.

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Speaker 1: I love that Superducer just said a bit like we

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Speaker 1: sports without the motion detection, I think low stakes fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at I'm looking at the Backgard Sports

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Speaker 1: characters for the first time. They're drawn in a way

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Speaker 1: where very cute. Their eyes are extremely close together, which

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Speaker 1: leads me to believe that they are predators. They're extremely

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Speaker 1: dangerous predators who who don't require peripheral chasing forward and

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Speaker 1: extremely close together, no peripheral vision. They're always moving forward

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Speaker 3: So would kind of be bad at those sports that

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Speaker 3: require any kind of spatial awareness though, Like they're terrible

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Speaker 8: But man, they can find Russia basketball.

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Speaker 4: Wait, a guy was cutting behind me.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, man, I sell the guard bringing the.

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Speaker 6: I shouldn't exist. Is there feedback to coaching.

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Speaker 1: I had an experience where I was at my parents'

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Speaker 1: house for a couple of weeks and reading books off

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Speaker 1: from age like three to five. It was like a

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Speaker 4: It's called Sweet Pickles.

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Speaker 1: Has anybody ever heard of Sweet Pickles?

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Speaker 4: Sweet? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The books are not great, and they're like from the

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Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I remember these being in my school library.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were all over the place when I was

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Speaker 1: The story was a complete disaster that I really read

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Speaker 1: to my kids. Yeah, just a mess where they're just like, dad,

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Speaker 1: what is this shit? They're like, why is the fish

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Speaker 1: Like they don't even mention that shit. They just have

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Speaker 1: one of the characters a fish in a spacesuit, like

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Speaker 1: in a water spacesuit. But then he's like jumping over

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Speaker 1: a river, which he but he treats the river like

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Speaker 1: it's not full of his natural habitat water. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe is a saltwater fish. Anyways, sweet pickles, check it

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Speaker 1: out or don't. What is something blake that you think's underrated?

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Speaker 9: Making nachos at home is an underrated thing? Because okay, yeah,

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Speaker 9: so I believe ordering them nacho delivery is insane like that.

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Speaker 9: I think we can breathe that. Yeah, that insane.

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Speaker 4: That's absolute foolishness.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, your home.

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Speaker 9: Now, there was a place that we would order a

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Speaker 9: nacho kit from where the ingredients would come separately, which

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Speaker 9: was kind of cool so it wouldn't mush up. But

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Speaker 9: still you might as well just have the increase, you

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Speaker 9: know what I mean, Like it was being marked up

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Speaker 9: in a way that it didn't five dollars for this

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Speaker 9: little cup.

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Speaker 4: I can get a can for two.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I also order pieces of an inhaler to my home

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Speaker 9: for one pot every time I need to use that.

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Speaker 4: There is something as yourself.

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Speaker 1: There are some times during the pandemic when like we

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Speaker 1: would order food and they'd be like, all right, here

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Speaker 1: are the ingredients, and like it's up to you to

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Speaker 1: kind of put it together, and I just felt humiliated.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the best of the subway was selling their

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Speaker 3: ship like their stock. You know, you can buy a

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Speaker 3: whole bag of tuna fish and I'm like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's what I like. Open up, open up those fucking cupboards.

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Speaker 9: And is it measured out before they put it in

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Speaker 9: a bag?

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Speaker 4: No? Loose? Loose if you know the guy you get

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Speaker 4: hooked up, do they give be a heavy one?

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Speaker 1: But what's your home? Your home recipe?

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Speaker 4: So we'll go chips and then.

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Speaker 9: Interesting, yeah, and then we bake them twice, put them

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Speaker 9: in the oven, pull it out, put it back in.

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Speaker 8: No chips.

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Speaker 9: Obviously the cheat well had a little on there, yeah, Klama.

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Speaker 9: And then the key will put like whatever, treeso whatever

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Speaker 9: can't bake it. We'll put some saucea on it, but

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Speaker 9: you can't do that for the whole duration of melting cheese,

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Speaker 9: you know what I mean? Yeah, a little bit of

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Speaker 9: sour cream some what else will we put on?

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Speaker 4: Kranma and sour cream?

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Speaker 10: We'll do one or the other.

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Speaker 8: We'll do.

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Speaker 9: Like a thick a thick dairy.

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Speaker 1: We don't want you to feel judged here, but that's

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Speaker 1: fucking disgusting.

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Speaker 9: We don't want you to feel judged, but you're giving

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Speaker 9: yourself an allergy, like you've trained your body.

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Speaker 4: Like you're buying like the brand, like grandma.

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Speaker 8: Bu your mouth.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, no I will, yeah we will, yeah for sure.

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Speaker 9: And no, but we like to mix that up and

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Speaker 9: and then just like the other stuff that you put

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Speaker 9: on there and but yeah, no real deviation.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's like, are you ever made nachos at home?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you poker games if.

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Speaker 9: You're gonna put me on the spot, you know, the

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Speaker 9: frosted flakes on the on the side.

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Speaker 3: An entire bag of sand, sand bags of sand bowl like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: a root vegetable unwashed and dirt dirted vegetable. Yeah yeah, great, great,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, no, it's it's also you can make as

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Speaker 3: much as you want, is the fun part, So like

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Speaker 3: you can eat until you're sick, where you know, it's

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Speaker 3: a limited serving size, I think, and this is an

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Speaker 3: important question. Are you a fan of just a canned

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Speaker 3: cheese like you know, high school football game style chemical

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Speaker 3: notches versus like melting the ship.

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Speaker 9: On nots but on like cheese steaks a lead it,

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Speaker 9: you know, So it's it's not an aversion to the

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Speaker 9: fact that it's not like, but you.

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Speaker 4: Prefer a real yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 9: It's not a food recognized by nature or the laws

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Speaker 9: of nature. But I will yet half what you did.

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Speaker 9: You can put that all over your skin and like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I really enjoyed it that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like so it's it is odd that

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Speaker 7: What is uh, what's something you think is over it?

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sure someone has already said this, but it

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Speaker 5: It's ruined my life.

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Speaker 1: And it's also not like when people say it, it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're like, yes, I knew that band before

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Speaker 5: It's not even like that.

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Speaker 11: It's not even like Demure in ninety eight.

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Speaker 5: One more point to that, Like I am not one

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Speaker 10: No, one's making accusation.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, So just to kind of give people an introduction,

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Speaker 8: The people under the masks.

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Speaker 4: But you do.

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Speaker 1: You tell us what the fuck is going on with

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Speaker 2: Oh man, they should have should have prepared me better

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Speaker 2: for this marketing.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: No, but like you said, the idea is that they're

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Speaker 1: And that is a compliment that gets like thrown around.

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Speaker 2: much like race mixing.

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Speaker 2: right right, It's a guy who got a free sex

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Speaker 3: Doll, right right right, You're like, yeah, not now, it's

442
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: now it's giving me the creeps in a completely different

443
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 3: way for sure.

444
00:21:58,840 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 8: Yeah.

445
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: The episodisode about the Civil War re enactment false Flag

446
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: is so wild. But before before we get into the

447
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: details of that, I do just want to talk about

448
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: this idea of weirdness because it has become the focus

449
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: for the Democrats and the presidential campaign and it happened

450
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: as you're preparing to launch a show focused on the

451
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: weirdness of right wing fascists, their policies, their personalities. What

452
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 1: was it that made you focus in on weirdness? Like,

453
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: based on the content, it feels like it just naturally

454
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 1: took you in that direction. But first of all, was

455
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: it like to have that emerge as like a central

456
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: Democrat talking point? And do you have an opinion on

457
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 1: how they're doing with regards to calling it out?

458
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

459
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: When I think arriving at the idea that, you know,

460
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 2: talking about these guys in the context of their idiosyncrasies

461
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 2: and their their their weirdness, the fact that they're out

462
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: of step with the world world arose naturally for me, right, Like,

463
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: I'm researching these guys in the context of domestic terrorism

464
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: and trying to understand that, and something I keep coming

465
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: across is like everything about the way they engage with

466
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 2: the world is weird, right, Like, it's not just their

467
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: ideas about race, their ideas about the Jews, or their

468
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 2: ideas about how political power should be achieved mainly through violence.

469
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 2: That's not separate from the fact that they're just weird

470
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: on a personal level. These things are intertwined, Like they

471
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: have all these ideas about, you know, whether women should

472
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: be able to vote because they just have weird ideas

473
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: about how the world works, and so that was sort

474
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: of a natural progression for me and I think, you know, separately,

475
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: the Democrats have recently arrived at the same place that

476
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: like their weird personal lives and the weird shit they

477
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 2: want to do to your personal life are obviously related.

478
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah.

479
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: It feels like for the longest time, like prior to this,

480
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: like we were using very like academic terms to like

481
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: accurately describe like their ideologies. So it's like, well, they're

482
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: these are ethno nationalists, these are proto fascist model, like

483
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And like it does in

484
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 3: a way it clearly identifies like where they're you know,

485
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 3: political might how like where their ideologies lie in terms

486
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 3: of like a political spectrum. But the weird sort of

487
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: cuts through that to not only be like, well it

488
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,239
Speaker 3: is weird to already be so like ant like like

489
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 3: the race mixing is terrible. It's like, what are you

490
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 3: a fucking Civil war ghost? Like what the fuck are

491
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 3: we talking about? But the weirdness it does sort of

492
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 3: in a way help sort of cut through. I think

493
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: a lot of these like sort of very academic terms

494
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 3: that are used to accurately describe them and really sort

495
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: of remind people of like maybe what is sort of

496
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 3: what we consider normal for the most part in terms

497
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 3: of like it's not being obsessed with people's genitals, it's

498
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 3: not being obsessed with like children's genitals, it's not a

499
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: being obsessed with like, you know, miscegenation or whatever these

500
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: things are, that these are all like all of these

501
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: things that they believe are weird are actually normal, and

502
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 3: now it's it is actually them now that has crossed

503
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: over into this space. So I feel like that was

504
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 3: sort of like the one thing that I was like, Oh,

505
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 3: I think it's it's able to connect in a much

506
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: easier way for people because it's much more conversational. But

507
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: it does feel like a little bit I'm sure you're

508
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: a bit frustrated, as someone who's been reporting on this

509
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: for a long time, not to be not necessarily that

510
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 3: it's like the Democrats, but that the warnings about being

511
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: like these people are dangerous wasn't sort of enough until

512
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, wait, they're weird.

513
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 2: We're getting we're getting a ratings bump from being interested

514
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: in this, like.

515
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, betterly than never.

516
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm not complaining. Sure, it's a weird coincidence, but I

517
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: think the reason it cuts to the quick so badly

518
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: for them, the reason it's like so shockingly hurtful to

519
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: them to be called weird, is because they're whole ethos

520
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 2: is that we are the arbiters of what is acceptable

521
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: and what is normal, and we want to return to

522
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: this nineteen fifties Norman Rockwell painting of imagined American life,

523
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: and that's what's normal. And so you're the ones that

524
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: are weird for you know, continuing to move forward in

525
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 2: a society that progressed is with time, right, and so

526
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: saying like, actually that that's not normal, you're the weird one.

527
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: You're the weird one. It undercuts their their belief about

528
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: you know, their their reason to exist.

529
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 1: And they their personal lives so often fall completely out

530
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,239
Speaker 1: of line with that ethos that they claim to like

531
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: they are. It's in line with it, but it's just

532
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: like a weird. When you first encounter they're like, well,

533
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: all I care about is families, and then you see

534
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: like the strange directions that spins off into and then

535
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: you look at their personal lives, it's I don't know,

536
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 1: I guess I guess it's unexpected at first, and then

537
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: it's like totally expected once you take the time to

538
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: think about it.

539
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: I mean, like the it's you know, it's spoiler for

540
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: this week's episode, but like, you know, these guys who

541
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: want to talk about you know, traditional white values and

542
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: Western civilization and you know, restructuring society so that we

543
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 2: have you know, traditional Western values. One of the guys

544
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: in this terror cell was making degrading hardcore pornography and

545
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: it's like, that's not that's not the world you're talking

546
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 2: about building, right right?

547
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean from your perspective, from like looking

548
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: at all these people for years, and you know, even

549
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: like this latest episode with the Civil War reenactor, Like,

550
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: is it that they're just that they're sort of repressing

551
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: some dimension of who they are and that's that's manifesting

552
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: them in like this like externalized hatred of people that

553
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: like might intersect with their own like weird interests or

554
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 3: feelings or how do you sort of look at these

555
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: people sort of through the prism of like what they're espousing,

556
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: but also the context of like their personal lives, like

557
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: how like how do those things or interact like in

558
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: terms of like how you've how you've looked at these people.

559
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's a question for a psychologists. I mean

560
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: sometimes these sometimes these manifestations are like desire to control.

561
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: Like a lot of fascists they want to control society

562
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: just the way they want to control their wife or

563
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: their children. And so for a lot of pedophiles, it's

564
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: about the exertion of control over a powerless victim, and

565
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: that's kind of what they want to do to society.

566
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: But I don't know, I don't think the cognitive dissonance

567
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: matters to them at all. Like you know, you see

568
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: a lot of white supremacists with Latino wives like that

569
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: cognitive dissonance is irrelevant to them, right, So, like there's

570
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: no making sense of it as a psychological drive. It

571
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: just the rules don't apply to me. I'm just going

572
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: to do this to society.

573
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because psychology is like not a thing. It's not

574
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: even like concepts in their head. They're just like, yeah,

575
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: this is what I do, Like my shadow self are

576
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: you talking about?

577
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: I mean, like maybe maybe we can like necromance, Freud

578
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: and get them to take a look at this. Like

579
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: for years I had this Nazi cyberstalker who would send

580
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: me these messages that were like really graphically about like

581
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 2: sexual fantasies involving feces. Yeah, and it's like that that

582
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: doesn't involve me, right, right, Maybe you should talk talk

583
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: to Sigmund Freud about that, Like you're stuck in the

584
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: anal development stage or something. I don't know, so mixed bag, Yeah,

585
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: it's yeah.

586
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean but I feel like historians, like or at

587
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: least the History Channel like kind of does it with Hitler, right,

588
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: Like Hitler behind closed Doors is not this amorphous ontological evil, right,

589
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: He's driven by very strange demons and a lot of

590
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: scatological you know shit. And then but then I feel like,

591
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, it popped in my head when you

592
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: were talking about Richard Spencer, like when he first came

593
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 1: on the scene years ago, and it felt like the

594
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: mainstream media was like into him, you know.

595
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, They're like, oh, finally like a handsome, well

596
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: spoken Nazi. Yeah yeah, we can put on TV.

597
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: Right because they want, yeah, they want a Nazi that

598
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: is like central casting of a fascist in a non

599
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: comedy movie. But when you look at them, it's just

600
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: doctor Strange loves all the way down right, just time

601
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: after time. It's like, nah, they have like weird suppressed

602
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: urges and repressed repressed ideas that are like bursting out

603
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: of them in these strange ways.

604
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 4: But it does.

605
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the real Richard Spencer is the Richard Spencer in

606
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: that leaked audio from the evening of Unite the Rights,

607
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: Like the rally got canceled. They didn't get to give

608
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: their speeches because there was a terrorist event, and he

609
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 2: was so mad that he didn't get to give his speech.

610
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: He's like purple in the face, screaming about how like

611
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: they don't get to do this to me, they don't

612
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: get to do this to me, and he starts busting

613
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: out racial slurs that you would have to look up

614
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: in a dictionary, like I think he called someone an

615
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: octoroon or something like.

616
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 4: Oh wow, yeah wow, take it all the way back.

617
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: But just like that sort of petulant, childish rage, like

618
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: you could put a suit and tie on a Nazi,

619
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: but he's still just an angry little guy.

620
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

621
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: I mean, because I think so many of these people

622
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 3: have like very similar like they're similar themes in their lives,

623
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: which are there operating in this bizarre parallel reality. But

624
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: when they're like forced to reconcile their perceived world and

625
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: the one they actually live in, they just go deeper

626
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: into the void because it's just that like that recon

627
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: like that sort of dissonance is like too much. It's

628
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: like no, no, no, And now they like sort of

629
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: increasingly become more hell bent on bringing their fantasy world

630
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: to life like upon the rest of us. And it's

631
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: like when they inevitably fail and realize they don't have

632
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 3: the power or means to create the world, they typically

633
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: will just resort to violence or destruction because if I

634
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: can't make something, then I can destroy it. And either way,

635
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: like I think, there's just that feeling of powerlessness that

636
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: has to be addressed, and this sort of.

637
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: Direction construction of this alternate reality. It just keeps coming

638
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: up sort of recurring theme in these stories that I'm telling,

639
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: Like I think this Scot left out of episode one,

640
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: but after Kevin Strome was arrested for possession of child pornography,

641
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: he so he was the webmaster for a neo Nazi group,

642
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: so he knew how to use the Internet, right.

643
00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: He was.

644
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: He was an Internet guy, you know, from the nineties,

645
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: so early internet adopter, and he made a website that

646
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: convincingly looked like an actual local news outlet, and he

647
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: peppered in like real local news stories, stuff about the weather,

648
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: stuff about you know, just like local goings on. But

649
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: like every third article on this fake newspaper website was

650
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: about how actually Kevin Strom isn't a pervert.

651
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 4: In other news, like what, like this guy really not bad.

652
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: It's like, I mean, it's the exact same thing, like

653
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: even with the Civil War reenactor guy like also creating

654
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: fake news articles like that, but he was such a boomer.

655
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 3: He's like cutting and pasting shit onto physical paper and

656
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: then xeroxing it and be like you've seen this article

657
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: and it's like what sharing it with like a teenager

658
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Speaker 3: he's working with.

659
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, okay, man, this to me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Sniper's got a bunch of people. It's like

661
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Speaker 4: what newspapers. That doesn't matter, man, it happened.

662
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Speaker 7: It happened to you too, huh yeah.

663
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but but it is like this very weird and

664
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Speaker 3: then like even like this the sex doll thing, like

665
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Speaker 3: it's a like there's just about creating, like insulating themselves

666
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Speaker 3: truly in like this world of half truths or total

667
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Speaker 3: fabrications to kind of like, yeah, I don't know, it's

668
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Speaker 3: very they want.

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Speaker 2: They want to live in a cigarette ad from a

670
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Speaker 2: nineteen fifty five issue of Good Housekeeping, Like the world

671
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: you're imagining was never real, Like not only can you

672
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Speaker 2: not go back to it, it was never real? Like

673
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Speaker 2: that was on queludes, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: She's so high that mom' serving that turkey, like that

675
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Speaker 1: turkey is not cooked middle Yeah, yeah, she is out

676
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Speaker 1: of her mind. Yeah, let's take a quick break and

677
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Speaker 1: we'll come back. And I just wanted to talk a

678
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Speaker 1: few of the details about the subjects of your first

679
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Speaker 1: couple episodes because they are absolute bangers.

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Speaker 8: We'll be right back, and we're back.

681
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Speaker 10: We're back, We're back.

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Speaker 1: Remember that Poulter guys too, and from nineteen eighty four,

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Speaker 1: remember that guys.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, man, all right, so let's go big news.

685
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Speaker 5: I don't watch scary movies into a week for that.

686
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm scary.

687
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Speaker 8: That was Bolser Guys too, scary.

688
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Speaker 10: I think Polser guys fucked me up.

689
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Speaker 7: Old guys fucked me all the way up. I don't

690
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Speaker 7: even remember.

691
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever saw Polter Guys Too,

692
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Speaker 1: but I saw the trailer at the first movie I

693
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Speaker 1: ever watched in a theater, which was Rocky. For the

694
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Speaker 1: trailer for Polter Guys Too played and I was very frightened.

695
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Speaker 3: It looks like the still image from the trailer looks

696
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Speaker 3: like a character that Walton Goggins could play.

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Speaker 5: Okay, of course, Well you could play anything. Oh yeah,

698
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Speaker 5: of course uncle.

699
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Speaker 7: Baby Billy like ten years in.

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Speaker 8: The Yeah, that's Uncle baby Billy.

701
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Speaker 10: That's Uncle baby Billy.

702
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Speaker 7: Goddamn good teeth in his.

703
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

704
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Speaker 1: That guy freaked me the fuck out. And he's terrified

705
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Speaker 1: just and he's just an old man in a hat,

706
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: but his general vibe is very frightening.

707
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Speaker 11: Caroline, that's what the guy said.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, I'm with Blair. I don't

709
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Speaker 3: I don't need that ship. I'm already like, I have

710
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: enough anwer nervousness in my life. I don't need content

711
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: to amplify that.

712
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Speaker 11: Caroline, come towards the light.

713
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Speaker 1: And the light is a TV. I have one of

714
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Speaker 1: those in my home. That's scary as fun. I could

715
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Speaker 1: be Caroline, all right, And that's just a preview of

716
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Speaker 1: the type of content you won't be getting on chick

717
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Speaker 1: fil A's streaming service. Wait, I feel like we might

718
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Speaker 1: have mentioned this earlier. Maybe not, but it seems like

719
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Speaker 1: a joke as a headline. But just when you thought

720
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Speaker 1: streaming entertainment couldn't be any more dire, news just broke

721
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: to chick fil A is quote moving aggressively into the

722
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Speaker 1: entertainment space with their very own streaming platform. They will

723
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Speaker 1: license and create original family friendly shows, most of which

724
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Speaker 1: will be unscripted, so you know, wow, fun, incredible chick

725
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Speaker 1: fil A reality shows.

726
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Speaker 4: Wow.

727
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Speaker 1: For documentaries, Yeah, I'm sure it's really in depth documentary

728
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Speaker 1: is about you know.

729
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Speaker 10: Yeah, why chick fil a is a good place for

730
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Speaker 10: a twelve year old to work or something?

731
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Speaker 5: Just chick fil A if you're listening to this. I'm

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Speaker 5: available to be paid one hundred million dollars to be

733
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Speaker 5: filmed doing monck Banks of you Chicken, thank.

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Speaker 11: You Banks, thank you, you do muck bang content.

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Speaker 5: I have incredible plans to do to become to transition

736
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Speaker 5: fully into being a TikTok monk banger.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

738
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Speaker 10: Yeah I love wake Okay, Well, I would love to

739
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Speaker 10: know more about it.

740
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Speaker 5: But like Chase version. Don't get any freaky ideas, you

741
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 5: sickos out there. Okay, I'll be fully closed up to

742
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 5: my chin, just absolutely plowing.

743
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Speaker 7: Actually this might be.

744
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Chick fil A like just you're wearing like

745
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: sister wives, like where like a turtle turtle long sleeve

746
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: everything and then just gorging on Chick fil A.

747
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Speaker 3: But you have to do your hair like super Southern conservatives,

748
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Speaker 3: like big, big and high.

749
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Speaker 5: That's right, someone has a shock under the back of

750
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Speaker 5: my head.

751
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Speaker 7: That's actually part.

752
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Speaker 8: Of what I love this show.

753
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Speaker 10: Put my favorite show on.

754
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Speaker 5: I actually love that we're not able to stream on Sundays.

755
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Speaker 5: I think that's rarey.

756
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it just goes.

757
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Speaker 5: On Saturday.

758
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this isn't a total shock for those of

759
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Speaker 1: us who monitor Chick fil A closely.

760
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 7: Last year, the company.

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Speaker 1: Released a job posting looking for a quote entertainment producer

762
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Speaker 1: for a new half that doesn't even sound like a

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Speaker 1: real It was yeah, I know, right, entertainment producer, any entertainment.

764
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Speaker 7: They're new to the space miles.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's like when I see producer on hinge,

766
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Speaker 5: I was like, what does that mean? SoundCloud? Are you like?

767
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Speaker 4: Uh No?

768
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Speaker 3: I actually once I moved about four flats of crystal

769
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Speaker 3: guyser water from a sound stage to a transpo van.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean I usually I used to when

771
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Speaker 3: I was like a PA, I would be like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a produce I'm a production system.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, anything.

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Speaker 1: So this is where it gets weird. Though, So Chick

775
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: fil A, and none of the previous part was.

776
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Speaker 7: Weird, that is what I'm saying.

777
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Speaker 1: Uh So Chick fil A has already been producing entertainment

778
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Speaker 1: and we just like didn't notice because we have better

779
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Speaker 1: things to do.

780
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Speaker 8: With our lives.

781
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: But their YouTube page has an original animated series about

782
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Speaker 1: like my friend and I were talking about this. My

783
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: friend is a writer who's, you know, struggling like many

784
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Speaker 1: writers are. We're talking about this streaming service and we're like,

785
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: what is it going to be like those cows from

786
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Speaker 1: the ads, like just like like the universe of like

787
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: the cows who can't spell that much, but like ken

788
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: still write telling us to eat chicken. And I was

789
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: like joking when I said that they already have like

790
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Speaker 1: an an animated series where those cows are basically domestic

791
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: terrorists that routinely target a burger chain that murders and

792
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: sells their friends and family, and it's yeah, it's aimed

793
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Speaker 1: at kids. It's about domestic terrorism and like these people,

794
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Speaker 1: these these cows being mad that they're being murdered. There's

795
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Speaker 1: also like Coca Cola product place went all over the place,

796
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Speaker 1: but it has five million views on the most recent

797
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Speaker 1: one that like went up a week ago. Uh, there's

798
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Speaker 1: an earlier one from last year that has thirty two

799
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Speaker 1: million views. Oh so I'm like very confused and slightly

800
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: suspicious over those numbers. Like I don't want to say

801
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Speaker 1: because I'm sure they're like more sophisticated than that, despite

802
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Speaker 1: the fact that they they're posting, said entertainment producer. I'm

803
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 1: assuming they have like people who are telling them more

804
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Speaker 1: detail about the metrics and like where those viewers are

805
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Speaker 1: coming from, because it would be very funny if they

806
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Speaker 1: like just got fooled by like a social media firm

807
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Speaker 1: that's like buying clicks and views to their video. Look

808
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: at this, We're gonna double down and launch an entire

809
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Speaker 1: streaming platform because of these.

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Speaker 4: Kid Are they going to charge people for this?

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Speaker 7: That's a great question.

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Speaker 3: Or is it just like that, Because that's the difference.

813
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Speaker 3: I'm like nobody is I don't give a fuck what's

814
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Speaker 3: on there. Nobody's fucking buying chick fil a streaming service.

815
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Speaker 3: But unless it's like you know, they try and get

816
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Speaker 3: people into like buy a fucking kids meet or some shit. Maybe,

817
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: but even then the content doesn't make sense. Like brands

818
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: that make like content like this, it always fucking stinks.

819
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 3: So maybe it is just a way for them to

820
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Speaker 3: like create more. I mean, because obviously the family that

821
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: owns Chick fil A is super conservative and freaking out

822
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: there with it. So yeah, maybe this is just their

823
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 3: way to be like, yeah, man, we got people to

824
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: sit through some weird white supremacists ethn national cartoons or

825
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 3: or talk shows, you know for kids.

826
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Speaker 10: Is there get the message out.

827
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Speaker 1: Like a conceivable universe? Because I like all bets are

828
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Speaker 1: off after like skibbity toilet seeing the view counts on

829
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: skibbity toilet, realizing I don't know anything about YouTube. Is

830
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Speaker 1: there a world where people are that into Chick fil

831
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Speaker 1: A and that they want to see like an expanded

832
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Speaker 1: universe of those cows?

833
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Speaker 5: No, Okay, everyone thinks because one movie Barbie, that everything

834
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 5: is like an ip now.

835
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Speaker 7: Exactly, and now we are fucked.

836
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Speaker 1: It fucked us so hard in a way I hadn't

837
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Speaker 1: realized one.

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Speaker 5: Well done, just one in a million execution, and now

839
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Speaker 5: we're all ruined forether.

840
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Speaker 10: Right now, it's like, what about our cow billboards? Can

841
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Speaker 10: that be a show?

842
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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 10: The ones that misspell more when they're like eat more.

844
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Speaker 5: No, I can't. I just know DJ Tanner is going

845
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 5: to be at the top of their list. She's going

846
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Speaker 5: to be a huge get for them.

847
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely, like showing you how to make

848
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: other meals out of like Chick fil A meals or

849
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Speaker 3: something No no, and her.

850
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Speaker 12: Video being like I want the opening ceremonies at the Olympics,

851
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Speaker 12: And I was just sad, to be honest, I was

852
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Speaker 12: just so sad to have Christ to be demigrated.

853
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Speaker 3: I'm like Christ, Christ, but Jesus Christ. But yeah, I mean, like,

854
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Speaker 3: I guess the one thing that they do have is

855
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: the fact that the like the Kathy family or the

856
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: guy the owner is like behind one of the biggest

857
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: like physical production spaces outside of Allywood.

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Speaker 1: He owned, so he He's spent millions and millions of

859
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Speaker 1: dollars turning a bunch of farmland in Atlanta into like

860
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: a massive the biggest movie studio or production studio outside

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Speaker 1: of Burbank in the United States, So.

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Speaker 3: They shoot all the Marvel movies there, man, so maybe

863
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: we'll get a Christ level, more Marvel level christ superhero.

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Speaker 1: They've just just around your question of like, are they

865
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Speaker 1: planning to charge for this? They might have ulterior motives.

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00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: They've also been releasing in addition to their wildly popular

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Speaker 1: Cows Fighting for the against the slaughter of their Brethren

868
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: for kids, they've also been releasing an animated Christmas series

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Speaker 1: called The Stories of Evergreen Hills for years and and

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00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: that series has been violating privacy laws by harvesting personally

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00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: identifiable information about the people who view it on their website.

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00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: So they might be just like trying to build out

873
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: immense data profiles of people who are interested in Chick

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Speaker 1: fil A and question Mark. Question Mark control the World,

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Speaker 1: the Thousand Cash Signs God.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, look zygang let us am I would look

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Speaker 3: Chick fil A came laid out to the West Coast,

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if maybe these are time Mark

879
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: honored cartoons that everyone is waiting for, But part of

880
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 3: me is a bit dubious.

881
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, our success, our viewers or what if our listeners

882
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, man, like I love those cartoons, dude.

883
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: I found out about the daily Zeitgeist through the Evergreen

884
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: Hills series.

885
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: Got a Small, Got a small contingent of ZiT Gang

886
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: in the Evergreen Hills community. It seems like this is

887
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: basically like we get these bad idea is because we

888
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: live in a world where one person wields the power

889
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: that like one hundred people should have through just like

890
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: massive wealth consolidation and accumulation, and so like this person

891
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: who should have you know, one hundred more, you know,

892
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: he should be rich, but instead he is like this

893
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: industry spanning mogul because of how our systems set up

894
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: and so.

895
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 3: Oh right, rather than like I have a successful franchises

896
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: of a chicken sandwich story, I.

897
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: Am a chicken mate. And that's where it ends, right.

898
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: But because we have a thing where it's like you

899
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: can just keep getting richer and richer and richer and richer.

900
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: And because like that one brain of the person who

901
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: has all that money is only so big, they're going

902
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: to try and do everything because they have the power

903
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: to do everything. And so instead of what what should

904
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: be happening is like a new streaming service gets launched

905
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: by somebody who has a good idea for one, right,

906
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, yeah yeah, But instead of that, it's the

907
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: guy who has all the money at Chick fil A

908
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: because he has the power to just like make it happen.

909
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, that's the America I want to

910
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 4: live in.

911
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, just you know, just want to brute force my

912
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: own streaming platform and have people just be like yeah, yeah, yeah,

913
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 3: because I like underwrote a huge segment of the Atlanta

914
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: film industry.

915
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 10: Yeah wow wow wow wow wow.

916
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: So it just seems weird, like for a brand that

917
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: has only ever gotten themselves in trouble when it comes

918
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: to like cultural output, you know, it's like that that

919
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: is not your strong suit. That's where you get boycotts

920
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: and like people thinking you're the fucking worst.

921
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 5: But that's what they think otherwise, clearly right, they're trying

922
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 5: to put a steak in the sand. We're not afraid

923
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 5: to ruffle feathers. We're the chicken guys.

924
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, if anything, we'd like to fucking.

925
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 5: Run shape the culture with our through our chicken sandwich shit.

926
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: Right again, just like Blair said, Chick fil A, if

927
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: you're looking for like some unscripted content. I will I

928
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: will get high on camera if that.

929
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 10: If that's something that fits into the mixing, I second that.

930
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 5: I have a lot of ideas. Yeah, mister Chick fil A,

931
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 5: if you're listening, I like his sauses.

932
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 11: Okay, look, we missed.

933
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 3: I missed the quibi checks, you know, Jeffrey Katzenberg, I

934
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: could have got one of those coveted quibi checks.

935
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 4: Miss that.

936
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 10: So if you're again, you could have literally.

937
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: Made anything nobody ever saw it. You could have made

938
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: the shittiest thing ever gotten paid, like just like completely

939
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: phoned it in. Like that is really a failure on

940
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: my part. I feel like not not getting it, not

941
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: getting the quibi check, and me and everybody, Yeah, everybody

942
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: missed the quibi check. Like, oh, we could have just

943
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: been because we all knew it was going to fail.

944
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: But that's no reason not to take their money, right,

945
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna know.

946
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 5: I went in their offices once it looked the way

947
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 5: Koly Kardashian's pantry looks, with like just walls of beautiful

948
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 5: candy organized in jars.

949
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 10: Oh really, it was exquisite.

950
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 5: It really was something to see.

951
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 10: When you could eat the candy.

952
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, it was.

953
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 10: It was asked a question like a five year old.

954
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, and you can eat the candy now.

955
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 5: That was That was a five hundred thousand dollars candy

956
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 5: jar wall. It was impressive.

957
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well look again, bring back Quibbi, bring it back.

958
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 4: Let us we missed one of those checks.

959
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: All right, Well, bring back Quibbi, I think is where

960
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: we try to end all our podcasts. So thank you

961
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: Blair for joining reminding us saying these important things about

962
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: the future of entertainment.

963
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 5: And I just have one more thing to say, if

964
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 5: you don't mind, yes, please, I did see Just to

965
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 5: clear I was engaged. I couldn't want the d n C.

966
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 5: But I saw a clip of Tim Waltz talking about

967
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 5: talking football and I was like, I'm about to run

968
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 5: through a freaking wall right now. And then and I

969
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 5: was like, oh no gold and then and then I

970
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 5: saw I woke up this morning on that godless site

971
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 5: that I go on, and I saw these people shitting

972
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 5: on his beautiful son, who I was like, yeah, him

973
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 5: crying made I was crying immediately, you know. And I

974
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 5: was like, I'm gonna have to beat some ass. Yeah, yeah,

975
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 5: that's why. I was just like what's her name?

976
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 7: That ghoul In and Coulter.

977
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm gonna take you down, your skinny

978
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 5: little skeleton, mouthy ass witch, shut up right.

979
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: It's and it's also while they're talking like it's funny

980
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 3: every d n C night there find a way to

981
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: attack someone's kid, Like whether it was you know L. M. Hoff, Yeah,

982
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: like the night before or then this time it's like

983
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 3: this seventeen year old. They're like, this kid.

984
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 11: Is crying because he loves his dad.

985
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 7: What about weird is going on with that?

986
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 11: And then like but also like Tim Wallas has talked.

987
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: About how like his son is like ADHD and like

988
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: a nonverbal like learning disorder, like just like all this

989
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 3: other stuff, and they're still like what the whoa, what's

990
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 3: going on with this kid?

991
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're like but they're like, whoah, bitch, I'm like,

992
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 5: oh sorry, your son would never speak to you in public.

993
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 7: Right.

994
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: It's so telling that they are so fixated on these

995
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: people with like adoring, loving kids, where like they're not

996
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: they're no longer invited to Thanksgiving and Christmas because they're

997
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: fucking monsters.

998
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like normally, you know, I feel in politics is

999
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 5: really like this could be slander. I'm not sure, like

1000
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 5: a really rancid industry. Like I don't really trust even

1001
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 5: the liberal side. I just vote, tried to vote with

1002
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 5: my soul, with the lesser of two evils. I think

1003
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 5: there's a lot of problems on both sides. Yes, But

1004
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 5: when I saw that ship this morning, I was just like, oh,

1005
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 5: this is just like a report makes me sick.

1006
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. There's like these moments where it's

1007
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: just like, God, I do not like a lot of

1008
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: the what's going on with the Democrats, and yet a

1009
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: lot of broad the Republicans are so much worse. And yeah,

1010
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: we can hold both of those thoughts in our Yeah,

1011
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: definitely at.

1012
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 7: The same time.

1013
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's the way we have to be.

1014
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 5: We have to hold complexity because that's the truth of nature.

1015
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 11: Oh, talent well said, that's all I had to say.

1016
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 5: But the football speech was really good. I loved it.

1017
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, we got to with the football speech.

1018
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

1019
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: Please like and review the show if you like, The

1020
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: show means the world to Miles. He he needs your validation.

1021
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Speaker 8: Folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend. And I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you Monday. Bye.