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Speaker 1: Unafraid Show College Football Apostles. I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Emsden,

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Speaker 1: and we got to talk today about the Big Ten

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Speaker 1: and the SEC taking over the college football Playoff. Whether

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Speaker 1: we like it, do we love it, or do we

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Speaker 1: absolutely hate it? Carson Beck now is now a part

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Speaker 1: of getting robbed. This has happened in professional athletics, but

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Speaker 1: now it's happening to college athletes and people are blaming

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Speaker 1: him for it. What Shadur Sanders the kid drops new

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Speaker 1: music just ahead of the draft. Are we listening to it?

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Speaker 1: And is it a banger? And of course there's a

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Speaker 1: scandal going on, but this one is about assy punters

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Speaker 1: and their place in football altogether and Last Chance You

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Speaker 1: participants are suing Netflix. That and so much more here

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Speaker 1: on The Unafraid Show's College Football Apostles. Make sure that

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Speaker 1: you like, subscribe, get notifications, tell a friend about the show,

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Speaker 1: and most importantly share. Let's get to it, Ralph, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna start with the Big Ten and the SEC taking

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Speaker 1: over the College Football Playoff. I could not hate this anymore.

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Speaker 1: This goes against the spirit of college football. This goes

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Speaker 1: against everything that we love about college football. And if

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Speaker 1: you don't know what's happening, let me kind of give

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Speaker 1: you the recap of it. So, starting in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: with the playoff expansion, the big ten in the SEC

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Speaker 1: essentially negotiated their own backdoor deal that in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six they get to be the lone people who decide

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Speaker 1: what happens for the future of the playoffs in terms

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Speaker 1: of expansion. Who gets in all of this stuff, Like, yes,

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Speaker 1: they're supposedly is going to have to be a vote

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Speaker 1: on it, but the way it's built that they're going

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Speaker 1: to have the say so of what happens. And also

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Speaker 1: there are changes that they want to make for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five, which is that instead of the conference champions

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Speaker 1: getting buys, that they go in order of rankings, that

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Speaker 1: that who get the buys. We'll discuss that as well.

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Speaker 1: But from twenty twenty six on, Ralph, this is everything

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Speaker 1: that I hate about the game that I love, which

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Speaker 1: is college football, which is the powers and the money

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Speaker 1: dictating everything about it because the SEC is dangling is

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Speaker 1: carried around. Hey guys, we'll play nine conference games. We'll

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Speaker 1: play nine conference games, and we'll give you on top

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Speaker 1: of that, On top of that, guys, for your additional

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars, you we're gonna slash the price

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Speaker 1: we're gonna add in a scheduling agreement with the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: But the nine conference games is what you've been wanting.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give it to you. But in exchange for that,

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Speaker 1: we need and expanded playoffs to not twelve, not fourteen,

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Speaker 1: but sixteen games for you, sixteen teams for you the consumer,

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Speaker 1: and all we want in return, it's just a minimum

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Speaker 1: of four teams in. That's all we want. Let's expand

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, not for the most merit based of teams

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Speaker 1: to get in, but just so we make sure that

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Speaker 1: we have enough teams in. We're gonna give you extra spots.

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Speaker 1: You guys want expansion, We're gonna give you expansion, but

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna give you. But in exchange for that expansion,

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Speaker 1: we're actually we actually you want to take all the

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Speaker 1: expanded spots. I hate this route.

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Speaker 2: Are you sure you hate it?

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Speaker 1: Yes? I hate it with the power of a thousand sons.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm just making sure because you and I

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Speaker 2: have a lot of conversations off air about boxing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm nervous.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of conversations, and you have told

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Speaker 2: problem with the fact that Floyd Mayweather was so big.

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Speaker 2: Did he got the handpick everybody? Did he got to

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Speaker 2: to the to the rich, go the spoils, or whether

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Speaker 2: to the victor go to spoils. You you get to

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Speaker 2: the point where you can lobby enough for your own

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Speaker 1: Oh, I pArg you.

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Speaker 2: This is the thing you just described is everything I've

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Speaker 2: was wrong, ral And now I hear you talking about

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Speaker 2: did something change? Do you want to talk about box?

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Speaker 2: I know it's college football puzzles, but I'm just wondering

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Speaker 1: Ralph. I'm going to use your example and raise your example,

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Speaker 1: what I wasn't prepared for this for him to wiggle

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Speaker 1: out of this box. All right, Ralph, So you bring

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Speaker 1: What has happened to boxing?

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Speaker 2: It's it's falling off. Like we all know two or

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Speaker 1: Bingo bingo, bengo bongo. Do you know what's going on

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Speaker 1: in the UFC, the other combat sport? The commissioner which

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Speaker 1: college football needs, which I've active, which I've advocated for.

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Speaker 1: The commissioner consistently puts up the best fights. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: allow brinky dink bs scheduling like Ohio State did last year,

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Speaker 1: like Georgia did the last time that they won a

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Speaker 1: school and you play three gimmes, three layups, three nonpout

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Speaker 1: non conference. So I love college football. I want college

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Speaker 1: football to be the number one thing in the entire universe.

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Speaker 1: But it won't happen with stuff like this. It is boxing, Ralph.

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Speaker 1: It will go the same way as boxing. If you

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Speaker 1: let the powers that be control and disseminate everything, all

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Speaker 1: you're going to get is Big ten Champion, SEC Champion,

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Speaker 1: Big ten Champion SEC Big ten, Big ten, Big ten, SCC,

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Speaker 1: SCCSCC ACC, Big twelve will never win a championship again

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Speaker 1: because and this is the problem with college football route

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Speaker 1: is that there is a hoarding of power and it

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Speaker 1: is not for the benefit of the sport. It is

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Speaker 1: for the benefit of those of the people in power.

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Speaker 1: This is no different than what is going on in

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Speaker 1: the thing, honestly, that makes the CAP the NFL so great.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys are by far the most valuable franchise.

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Speaker 1: They have no better chance of winning than the Tampa

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Speaker 1: have no true owner. The fans own the team, but

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Speaker 1: they don't even get an equity split. There's no rouph.

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Speaker 1: There is no team in the NFL that has no

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Speaker 1: And in college football, the fact that you have teams

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Speaker 1: It is the disaster. This will ruin the sport of

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Speaker 2: I think you made a lot of really good points.

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Speaker 2: I think what I was looking for was like something

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Speaker 2: that rhymes with mouth, was flight about that. The conversation

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Speaker 1: So I do not think that this is good for anybody.

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Speaker 1: This is why college football needs a commissioner, because college

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Speaker 1: football needs parody. And you're listening to this from somebody

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Speaker 1: Oregon Ducks are. They have pushed their way into the

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Speaker 1: upper echelon of college football with money, with access, with winning,

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Speaker 1: with like a combination of all of them. Right, it

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Speaker 1: is take what Iowa State has done right, and you

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Speaker 1: everything else. That's what Oregon did, except for you add

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Speaker 1: So they've done the football part and they've done the

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Speaker 1: So you're I'm saying this as somebody who has benefited

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Speaker 2: I understand, I understand what you're saying, and I wholeheartedly

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Speaker 2: there is some logic to receding.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't. I got no problem with tweaking the system.

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Speaker 2: My issue with receding is it that it ignores that

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Speaker 2: That's all because it so much of it has to

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Speaker 1: This is why the Unafraid Show college football rankings are

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season? Ralph likes week one, week two,

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Speaker 1: Unaffraid Show rankings? They're like, oh, those are crazy? What

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Speaker 2: How they're comparing it to what they know and and

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Speaker 1: We're in, yes, and when in if Ohio State or

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Speaker 2: I'm with you one hundred percent. There was a time

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Speaker 2: as a college town. But you know that when you

433
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: are a walking billboard for capitalism and you're not necessarily

434
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: flashing your well, but you got to show your stuff off.

435
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: You're expected to be a commercial for the stuff that

436
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: you've been entrusted with. So when you're doing that and

437
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: you got like people got to get smart. You should

438
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: post the day after you're in a place, yep, because

439
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: that's what that's.

440
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: Why I do that now. I do that now on

441
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: some level where I later post a lot. Yes, yeah,

442
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: if I if I'm out of town, usually not posted

443
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: about it until I get back from out of town.

444
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: Do you should see how horrified my wife was when

445
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: I explained to her what Florida's basketball coach was being

446
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: investigated for, which is using location settings to uh to

447
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: be in the same area as some young college co eds.

448
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: Now I think he was not found responsible for way

449
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: what oh you didn't. Okay, So University of Florida, which

450
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: is like a top ten team this year, they're basketball coach,

451
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: was investigated for using Instagram's location settings to be in

452
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: the same place at the same time as some top

453
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: tier co eds at University of Florida, and the student

454
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: newspaper broke that he was under investigation for it. I

455
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: think ultimately he was found innocent. But I'm explaining this

456
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: to my wife and she's like, wait, you can do what.

457
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: Wait that's what I'm thinking. You can do what? Hold on,

458
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: let me go on my Instagram right right?

459
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: Wait, okay, so I'm about to create some stalkers. So

460
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: if you do not use this information for nefarious purposes,

461
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: use it to protect yourself, use to protect your family.

462
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 2: That's my disclaimer. So when you are on Instagram, okay,

463
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: and you let's say you're looking at somebody's stories and

464
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: they're a famous person. Okay, And let's say that they're

465
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: at Dave and Busters and they location tag David Busters.

466
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: If you tap on that location, you can view anybody

467
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: who tagged themselves in Davenbuster's stories, or if it's somebody

468
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: at the Grand Canyon, or if it's somebody Yellowstone National Park,

469
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: or if it's somebody at a Louis Vuitton store. So

470
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: like with my kids, every once in a while, I

471
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: tag the town that I live in, like when I'm

472
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: out at a park or something like that, like, oh,

473
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: it's great to live in ex town. Right. If somebody

474
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: follows me and then click on that location, it'll bring

475
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: up the story, it'll bring up the posts of anybody

476
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: who posted geo tagged from that location, and it'll bring

477
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: up any of the public stories. So athletes are incentivized

478
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: to not lock their accounts down, not privatize their accounts down.

479
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: So if an athlete is in a movie theater and

480
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: they location tag that movie theater, if they have an

481
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: NIL deal, if they post it while they're there, then

482
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: someone's gonna know one of two things, where they're at

483
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: and where they're not at. And that's what these games

484
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: have been using, is not the information of where you're at,

485
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: but where you're not at. They broke into Joe Burrow's

486
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: home when he was playing.

487
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: They broke because you because you are one hundred sure

488
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and probably everybody associated with the business of

489
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is at their state, especially if it's a

490
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: home game.

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00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: Yes, and a lot of NFL players they'll have like

492
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: security or they'll have video feeds or something like that.

493
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: And that's how some of these guys got caught. Maybe

494
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: they didn't have security at their home. Joe Burrow had

495
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: a woman at his house.

496
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: Story.

497
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, but for these college kids, a lot of

498
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: them don't have security, you know. And so and if

499
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: you have money and you're in college and you're not

500
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: a freshman anymore, you're sophomore or beyond, you're probably in

501
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: off campus housing. So not only you have to worry

502
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: about like, hey, what friends are you bringing around, you

503
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: got to worry about when when everybody knows your schedule.

504
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: And if you're an SEC player and you play for

505
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: Georgia and you're on the road at Mississippi State and

506
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: you live in off campus housing, what's the stop one

507
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: of these roving gangs from coming to Athens going to

508
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: off campus housing posing as a gardener because that's what

509
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: they've done, posing is a delivery man because that's what

510
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: they've done, and going in and jacking your chain or

511
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: your grill or your whip like whatever, there's not And

512
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: so the NFL issued a memo the NCAA is probably

513
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: going to have to do the same soon to just like, hey,

514
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: not only you have money, you're advertising that you have money.

515
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: Your schedule is online, it's not hard to find out

516
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: where you live. You got to protect your assets.

517
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: And here's a pro tip for everybody, regardless whether you're athlete, anybody.

518
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that they should get home. Okay, So regardless

519
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: of whether you are a college athlete or just a

520
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: regular person. Pro tip here, get Renter's insurance. It is

521
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: extremely cheap, extremely cheap, but it was the best piece

522
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: of advice I got when I was a college Like,

523
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be paying like twelve bucks a month.

524
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: I know you're a poor college college student. Or if

525
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: you're just a regular person and you don't feel like

526
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 1: I don't really have anything valuable, listen, pay your twelve

527
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: bucks a month. Pay something happens. Execute your insurance because

528
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: it'll save you the pain and heartache of that. So

529
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: from my uncle George to you.

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00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: Guys, find out find any mom and pop insurers in

531
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: your area, go to them and see if you can

532
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: exchange the rate of Renters insurance for representing their company.

533
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: Like, this is dang it, Ralph, you know how just thought.

534
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: About starting an insurance company.

535
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: My kid doesn't have Renters insurance right now, I gotta

536
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: got hold on. We got to stop this damn show

537
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: to make sure boy gets some damn Renter's insurance right now.

538
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: I learned the hard way, man. I got carjacked in

539
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen and all my camera equipment was in my car.

540
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: And I got a check from the insurance company for

541
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: the car, and I was like, well what about my camera?

542
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 2: And they were like, that's Renters insurance and I didn't

543
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: have it.

544
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 1: Yep.

545
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: So I was out two thousand bucks.

546
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: Yep. All right. Next thing up, lawsuits are happening, So

547
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: there the last chance you participants are suing Netflix. Ralph

548
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: has this story.

549
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: I do. I don't know how I feel about it,

550
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 2: and I'm really curious to get your take. I'm gonna

551
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: read the Zach Barnett article from football scoop because it

552
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: was the most in depth one that I could find

553
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: right now. And so here we go. Six members of

554
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: East Mississippi Community College, the football team that was the

555
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: subject of the first two seasons of the hit Netflix

556
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: series Last Chance You have fought the lawsuit against the

557
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: streaming giant, the school, Condon Entertainment, the show's director, and

558
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: the NJCAA over their portrayal in the series and their

559
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: lack of compensation for what they say was forced participation.

560
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: And I think that's the most interesting part of this

561
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: lawsuit because they're alleging that their reputation took a hit,

562
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: that they're having a hard time getting jobs now, and

563
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: ultimately that they were not fairly compensated. But the thing

564
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: that they think is like the thing that would win

565
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: them a settlement in this lawsuit is I guess they're

566
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: claiming that if they had not agreed to be part

567
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: of the TV show, that they would have been kicked

568
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: off the team. So the players, you might recognize some

569
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: of the names, John Franklin, IID okay, Ronald Allie. Oh

570
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 2: we're talking football, Yeah yeah, last time to the East

571
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: Mississippi seasons the first two years. Okay, I think Ronald

572
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 2: Allie was probably one of the big stars of the show,

573
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: and then John Franklin the third had been a bounce

574
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: back from Auburn, or he might have ended up at Auburn,

575
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: but they both hit the NFL. But other people, Tim Bonner,

576
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: Isaiah Wright, DeAndre Johnson, CJ. Reveis they are all in

577
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: on this lawsuit, and what they're saying is they weren't

578
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: given the proper amount of time to review the contracts

579
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: that they signed. They were threatened with being expelled from

580
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: the team if they didn't participate on the show and

581
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: they didn't receive a cut of the merchandise at the

582
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: community called sold following the show and right, Ollie and

583
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: Franklin also alleged that their reputations were damaged after being

584
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: portrayed in a false light. I don't know if you

585
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: remember this, but I think Ronald Ollie is the one

586
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: who straight up asked a college coach to pay him

587
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: under the table on camera.

588
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

589
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: So, but as far as their reputations being damaged, last

590
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: chance you the entire premise of the show was that

591
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: these are all players with like limited capital as far

592
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: as their reputation goes.

593
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, or that they you know, academically struggled, had some

594
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: families like anything. So first of all, the reputation thing

595
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Now they do have. Now you can be

596
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: edited a certain way where you look like a jerk. Right,

597
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I understand how TV works and all

598
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: of that stuff, so that can absolutely happen. But here

599
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: is where I do think that they are that they

600
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: may have some grievance, not necessarily legally, but especially for

601
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: the first season of Last Chance You, because this is

602
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: how it works in reality television. Your first season. So

603
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: I go, let's say that you start out on the

604
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: Housewives franchise. You're gonna be paid about ten thousand dollars

605
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: per episode. Like this is real life stuff like this

606
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 1: is not made up. This is for like a regular jointee,

607
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: not in for celebrity joints, Like if a regular person joints,

608
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: You're gonna be paid about ten thousand dollars an episode.

609
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: If you get picked up the next season, you're gonna

610
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: be making about twenty thousand dollars an episode. Third season,

611
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna be making about one hundred thousand plus per episode.

612
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: You can be making up to a million dollars per

613
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: episode if you are if you turn into one of

614
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: the most popular people on the show. And with Last

615
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: Chance You being that these players weren't on for multiple seasons,

616
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: it was the franchise that grew. So no, you weren't

617
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: gonna be paid a lot your first season because it's

618
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: essentially a trial and you don't make money from it

619
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: like that. And the people that made it didn't make

620
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: money like that from the first season. They made more

621
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: money the second season. And I bet you they paid

622
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: the players more the second season. So that's kind of

623
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: how it works. And this is probably why we're not

624
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: seeing Last Chance You anymore right now? Is wait? Good?

625
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: This is this is twenty fifteen team twenty sixteen. I know,

626
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: were the players even allowed to be compensated, wouldn't that

627
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: have affected their eligibility?

628
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good point, Ralph, that's a good point,

629
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: and exactly, And and I would imagine there had to

630
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: be some legal restrictions on this because you couldn't use

631
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: your nil or anything. So like, yes, I would, being

632
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: that you brought up that point, I need my coins,

633
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: I do, I do.

634
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So I was gonna save this for last but

635
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: I want you to guess what do you think the

636
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: monetary ask is from this group of players and their

637
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: legal representation.

638
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: Oh shit, bro, it's something outrageous.

639
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: Oh, thirty million, thirty million.

640
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: Dollars for for how many people.

641
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: Six for just the twenty fifteen season of the show.

642
00:40:53,520 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, yeah, yeah, I get it.

643
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: There is that. I mean, they're just asking for a

644
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: settlement or they're trying to create a situation with Discovery

645
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: where they have to turn over the financials.

646
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, show the figure out what actually they were going

647
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: to ask for a number that Like when when people

648
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: want money from lawsuits and all that stuff, they don't

649
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: ask for the amount of money they actually want. They

650
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: ask for the amount of money that will make you

651
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: settle for like three million dollars and they'll be like, okay,

652
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: we'll we'll all take three hundred thousand and go away. Yeah.

653
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: What I wonder about is if their ability to even

654
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: reach any type of settlement will be limited by the

655
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: fact that all of these players have probably given ten

656
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: dozen interviews on their experience with Last Chance You, and

657
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: my guess is most of them talked about it in

658
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: a semi positive light.

659
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

660
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard anything about the players from Last

661
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: Chance you talking about it publicly being a negative experience

662
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: until right now. So my guess is probably in the

663
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: best interest of one of these parties because they named Netflix.

664
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 2: I mean, so I've been sued before. I've been sued before,

665
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: and the person who sued me named Yahoo in the lawsuit.

666
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: Are you serious?

667
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like Yahoo dot com, like the billion dollar company,

668
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: because they figured like somebody would just want to be like,

669
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: all right, go away.

670
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

671
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: It was ultimately dropped, But my guess is naming Netflix.

672
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: Condon asked all these people, is this a pretty wide

673
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: ranging money grab situation? Because at the end of the day,

674
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: lawyer is going to take half. Governments can take half

675
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: of that. So you get your thirty million. You're talking

676
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: about maybe one point five take home for each of

677
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: these six players.

678
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. There's no way they're getting thirty million.

679
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: There's no way they're getting millions from this. It didn't

680
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: take thirty million dollars to make them. Like here's the

681
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: thing that people don't understand about Netflix stuff. Is that Netflix.

682
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: So like, let's say I make last chance you Netflix

683
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: pays me a fee to license it to them, or

684
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: they outright by it. It wasn't gonna be for thirty

685
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: million dollars. That's what I'm saying, Like, there's no way

686
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: that there was a uh.

687
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: Well, no show on Earth unless it comes with a

688
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 2: big director and a big actor and it's like ordered

689
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: by the actual streaming service. The concept is ordered, not

690
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: the actual show. Nobody makes money in season one, Yeah, exactly.

691
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: So they're asking for money from seasons two through five

692
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 2: plus the basketball ones. Yeah for what happened in season one.

693
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: Yes, ain't no way. Yeah yeah, all right. The next

694
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: thing up, mister Ralph, this one. I don't think that

695
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: people thought that this was going to do. Yeah, I

696
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: don't think that this is what people wanted to do.

697
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: Well when they voted for President Trump and they knew

698
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: that that you were going to be kicking people out

699
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: of the country. I don't think that they meant because

700
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: because you've seen those those dudes that that they've been

701
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: they've been going to the website of people who've been

702
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: detained by Ice and they're like, hold on, hold up, no, no, no,

703
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: not her, send her back, she can she can stay.

704
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: That's my nanny from Uruguay.

705
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other ones are like no, no, no, no,

706
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: not the not the punters. Who the hell are we

707
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: gonna have put the damn football. So punters are having

708
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: their what their visas and work stuff like all jacked

709
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: up now, so some of them may end up having

710
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: to leave.

711
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: Yes, that so that's part of That's part of what's

712
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: happening right now, is that, like, if you are importing

713
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: labor of any kind, including college football, things are going

714
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: to get a little more difficult than than they've been

715
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 2: in the past. But the real thing going on right

716
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: now with with the Australia to America punter pipeline is

717
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: that some of these dudes already went to college, which

718
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: means their eligibility clock already started. So the the scandal

719
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: isn't so much the idea that we're not going to

720
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: be able to import talent. The scandal is that some

721
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: of these teams that imported talent and got guys that

722
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 2: were completely out of eligibility. So there was a seven

723
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 2: month investigation conducted by Fox twenty nine in San Antonio,

724
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: a local television station in San Antonio, Texas. They investigated

725
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: the pipeline for kickers and punters from Australia into college

726
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: football programs and they ended up finding out that, like

727
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: some of these guys, they were lied about, you know,

728
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: like the way that some handlers lie about a minor

729
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: league baseball player's age.

730
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: Yes, they were.

731
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: Lied about about whether or not they actually started university

732
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: in Australia. Because some of these Australian punters they are

733
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: like twenty eight thirty years old.

734
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, these are grown as punters and they're

735
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: getting groomed out there. So here, here's the thing, Ralph,

736
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: is that people don't always factor in that all of that,

737
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: the political things out in the world are going to

738
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: factor into their their sports. I want an Australia, I

739
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: want a I want a good punter at Oregon, and

740
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 1: I want a good punt if I were an NFL,

741
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: if I had an NFL team like that, I want

742
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: the best punter available. And if they got to come

743
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: from Australia, so be it, let him in. I will

744
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: lobby on that individual person's behalf. But that's the issue,

745
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: is that people want these individual exceptions for the things

746
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: that matter most in their life, and that's not how

747
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: it works. Be Like I love my nanny from like

748
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: like like you said, I love my nanny from Uruguay.

749
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: She's a good person and all this stuff, and there's

750
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: been so much disinformation and misinformation talking about these that

751
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: undocumented people. They're like, oh my god, they're sucking from

752
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: the and this is this, and yes there are people

753
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: from here and there, from other countries that are sucking

754
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: from the system. But the reality is they paid over

755
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: ninety billion dollars in taxes last year.

756
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: What I'm just saying so at the heart of this

757
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 2: is an organization called Pro Kick Australia. So just give

758
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: you a couple of examples of some of the stuff

759
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: that they've done, pretty run of the mill fraud. In

760
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: one case, an athlete's real transcript from Australian school showed

761
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 2: failing grades. However the transcript submitted for NCAA eligibility had

762
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: significantly higher grades. There's one student that that I think

763
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: had this said. There was a kid that actually outed himself.

764
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: They sat down, he sat down with his advisor and said,

765
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: you need to take these classes in these classes, and

766
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: the guy responded, I already took that at university. And

767
00:48:54,719 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 2: the college was like, what you've already gone to college.

768
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: Bro, No, no, no, oh my mm hmm, just keep

769
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: your mouth shut. Fam.

770
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: So I guess one of the complaints was I bet

771
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: you anything. I bet you anything. Because it's very weird

772
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: that a television station in San Antonio is the one

773
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: that uncovered an international scandal. My guess is somebody who

774
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: is a punter handler in the United States tipped off,

775
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: like handed, everything that these reporters need directly to.

776
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like like the John Carney kicking school or something.

777
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: It's like, you ain't gonna keep messing up our players.

778
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: Get Yeah the hell, I'm gonna read you a quote

779
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: from the story, right, So there's a guy named Mike McCabe,

780
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: and my guess is Mike McCabe was maybe known to

781
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: this reporter before they started the investigation, because here's a

782
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 2: quote that Mike McCabe gave. Renowned Special Teams coach Mike

783
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: mccaby voiced frustration over pro Kicks recruitment practices and their

784
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: impact on the US market. The punting market in the

785
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 2: United States has dropped fifty four percent, said Mike McCabe.

786
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: H what the punting market. But okay, I.

787
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: Guess just guys you get from the United States.

788
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, or just the amount of scholarships that have gone

789
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: to people from foreign you know, foreign born.

790
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, this is this is literal like they took

791
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: our jobs. Yes right, this isn't like jobs Americans don't

792
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: want to do.

793
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: No, this is jobs Americans do want to do. Other

794
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: people are just doing them better.

795
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. This isn't this isn't picking, it's kicking. So yeah, anyway,

796
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: shout out to everybody who's got a fraudulent thirty two

797
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: year old Australian punter. I want one all right anyway.

798
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: Oregon punts like three times every four games.

799
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: Hey, when you and you need them, you need them

800
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: just like kickers. Chaudre Sanders has dropped some new music.

801
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: Why do you seem exasperated? Why are you mad at

802
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks? Why are you mad at Why are you

803
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: mad at you?

804
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: I'm mad at myself? Why I'm mad? Because when I

805
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 2: hear new Chadors Sanders music just dropped. When I hear

806
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: that sentence, there's like there's like a boomer Republican in me,

807
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 2: Like it just wants to come out.

808
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: It's like raw, it's perfect time.

809
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what it is.

810
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: Let me see you do to shador man. Let me

811
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: see you do the shr door.

812
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: You see him up close and to the student body. Okay,

813
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: So I don't know what it is. Uh, it doesn't

814
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: bother me. I love my kids, musicians, my wife's musician.

815
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't really take anything away from your life to

816
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: be involved in in music. It's it's great. It's a

817
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: good thing. Uh Leangelo Ball just got got some money

818
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:23,959
Speaker 2: for for dropping a hit. Ye I cover Arizona State.

819
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: I mean Edmund Boutang, Calin Blage, Manny Wilkins, Samson, Sakachi,

820
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: Levi Sterling, all guys who put on a helmet for

821
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: Arizona State. They went in to do music after football.

822
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: It does It doesn't bother me at all. I still

823
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: remember that terrible, terrible music that Kobe Bryant was dropping

824
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: early in his career. Wow, that never bothered me.

825
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: Yea.

826
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 2: I guess it's just that we're like, we're inching up

827
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: on the draft and I'm pre exhausted by some of

828
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 2: the stuff that's going to be said about snort Sanders.

829
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: Listen, I can't wait. I'm actually starting to feel like

830
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: Cam Wored's gonna be the number one pick. But that's

831
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: for where I feel the momentum is going. But that's

832
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: whole other thing. But you guys, though that is unafraid

833
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: show college football apostles.

834
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: Give an opinion. I'm just the angry white guy at

835
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: the end of the podcast.

836
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm just not a fan of bad music. So

837
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: you know, one of those if you don't.

838
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: Have anything nice to say, you're not gonna say anything

839
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 2: at all.

840
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, listen, listen. I hope his music reaches its

841
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: target audience.

842
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 2: If your son. If your son, what if he gets

843
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: the starting job at UC Davis and like three games

844
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: in he's playing, Well, he comes to you and he's like,

845
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: I got studio time. What would you say to your

846
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: own kid?

847
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I'd be like Doug. He's he's already making music

848
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: in his free time. So I I'm dead serious. He's

849
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: he's like engineering, like uh beats and making beats and

850
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: all of this stuff, and it's in its free time.

851
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: So like, yes, Ralph, I'm going to have nothing to

852
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: say except for play me my theme music.

853
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, what if his lyrics were about his Maybok

854
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: or whatever.

855
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh, he knows that I am not a garbage

856
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: lyrics guy. He knows I will straight up to him. Son.

857
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: The beats amazing, I mean, but I don't think he

858
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: wants to be a rapper, Like I don't think he

859
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: wants to be a musician in that way. Like I

860
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 1: think he really likes making beats and all of that stuff.

861
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: So just make a beats, sell them, sell them for

862
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: a lot. But but if his lyrics were trash, I

863
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: would tell him. I'd be like, son, have something to say,

864
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: read read a damn book.

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Speaker 2: All right, now that I got you on record, you

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Speaker 2: can end the show.

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Speaker 1: All right, you guys, I'm George Rice or he's Ralph

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Speaker 1: Ampson College Football Pozzles. Peace out, Catch you guys. Next episode.