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Speaker 2: All right, we continue now a big story we've been

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Speaker 2: covering now for a few weeks. Nelson Grande and his

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Speaker 2: partner owns a day own a dog named Conan. He

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Speaker 2: is a pitbull lab mix, and Conan was always taunted

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Speaker 2: by a neighbor. She would yell in Conan's face and

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Speaker 2: just just harass the dog. And one day Conan decided

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Speaker 2: he had enough and bit the neighbor. She went to

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Speaker 2: the city, and the City of Burbank wanted to classify

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Speaker 2: Conan as a dangerous animal, and they ordered they ordered

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Speaker 2: the death penalty. They wanted him euthanized, but Nelson Grande

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Speaker 2: and his partner, Sylvia Franco, they got an attorney, Jill Ryther,

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Speaker 2: and they went to a judge, and the judge has

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Speaker 2: taken Conan off death row. His life is spared and

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Speaker 2: to hear the details of this case. We're going to

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Speaker 2: get Nelson Grande on now and the attorney Jill Ryther, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: Nelson and jail. How are you.

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Speaker 3: Great having us?

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Speaker 1: It's great, Nelson. I'll start with you first.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you must feel just wonderful after getting Coyn's

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Speaker 2: life spared by the judge.

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Speaker 4: Most definitely. I still like crying this this very moment.

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Speaker 4: The news of knowing that he's going to be home

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Speaker 4: with his family and his friends, all the ones that

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Speaker 4: stood up for him, is justus just amazing.

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Speaker 1: This happened way back in January, is that right correct?

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Speaker 4: January fourteenth to the exact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, you've had to deal with this

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Speaker 2: almost a full year. I can't I can't imagine the stress,

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Speaker 2: to come around and take Conan away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm an older guy already, you know, and I

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Speaker 4: thought I had cried all my tears already, and when

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Speaker 4: this happened, he just it just hits your heart because

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Speaker 4: we raised Conan as a child. You know, when our

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Speaker 4: son moved away. Basically, Conan took over that space. That

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Speaker 4: when when when the family is an empty nester and

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Speaker 4: he fled that he filed it a void. He feels

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Speaker 4: the love that we have for for our children. So

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Speaker 4: he was ever raised with us at dog, but more

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Speaker 4: like a grandchild. So when you heard it, you hear

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Speaker 4: some of the city call you and tell you bring

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Speaker 4: your child to more gonna kill him. That's heartbreaking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, Jill Ryther is the attorney. Jill, can you explain

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Speaker 2: how you laid out the case defending Conan?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can. We did put on a provocation defense.

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Speaker 3: Under the law, provocation is a complete defense when an

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Speaker 3: animal bites somebody. And more than that we focused on.

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Speaker 3: In order for a dog to be euthanized, the city

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Speaker 3: There's an additional step that they have to prove that

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Speaker 3: and I shouldn't say lucky. I think the evidence was

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Speaker 4: It was a really.

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Speaker 3: Hard case because the City of Burbank was not forthright

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Speaker 3: But in the end, the judge found that they did

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Speaker 2: Can you give us a summary of what happened the

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Speaker 3: I would love to. I'm going to hold off only

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Speaker 3: Conan will live. But the person who was bitten is

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Speaker 3: suing Nelson and Sylvia Civilly as well for monetary damages,

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Speaker 3: and that case is still ongoing, so I should probably

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess it's safe to say.

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Speaker 2: What's been reported is that is that she had a

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Speaker 3: Will comment on that. I will say that we put

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Speaker 3: see the statements from Nelson and Sylvia. They appear in

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Speaker 1: This is not.

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Speaker 3: Something that they said after the fact. They have been

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Speaker 1: So there are some restrictions on Conan.

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Speaker 2: Can you describe what the judge decided he's got to

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Speaker 2: I guess Nelson and Sylvia have to abide by a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's quite a few, you know. The City of

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Speaker 3: Burbank made it very clear that they only wanted euth

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Speaker 3: in Asia. They did not want terms and conditions. But

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Speaker 3: the judge specifically asked both sides, please, you know, present

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Speaker 3: to me terms and conditions that you think are reasonable.

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Speaker 3: The City of Burbank, of course, threw the book at him.

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Speaker 3: Luckily a judge didn't go for all of them, but

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Speaker 3: there but there's quite a few. He some of the

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Speaker 3: biggest ones being they he now has to wear a

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: We pushed back on that. We said, this dog has

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Speaker 3: policy of one hundred thousand dollars. He has to do

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Speaker 4: He will be He's.

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Speaker 3: Being neutered on Tuesday and microchipped. They have to pay

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Speaker 3: a special licensing fee with the city, and there's there's more.

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Speaker 3: Oh for me. One that I think is unjust is

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Speaker 3: or a representative of the City of Burbank to stop

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Speaker 3: by their home unannounced for the next three years any

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Speaker 3: They do not have to notify Nelson and Sylvia's lawyer

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Speaker 3: you know, that's a great question. One of the other

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Speaker 3: And I guess the city wants to stop by and

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Speaker 3: make sure that that's there, and that Conan is not

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Speaker 3: being walked without a muzzle, and you know anything else

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Speaker 3: that ye come on, wow.

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Speaker 2: We'll take it, you know, going to the death chamber.

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Speaker 2: But what what what makes these Burbank bureaucrats so fanatical?

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Speaker 2: It's not that complicated a case. If if you taunt

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Speaker 2: the dog and scream at them all the time time, yeah,

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Speaker 2: eventually you might take take a bite out of you.

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Speaker 1: You learn that when you're five years old.

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Speaker 3: I wish I could answer that for you. You know,

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Speaker 3: I do think that the way this was handled at

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Speaker 3: the administrative level by the City of Burbank was incredibly problematic.

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Speaker 3: And I hope that because of the support we've received

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Speaker 3: in Conan's name, I hope we can affect some much

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Speaker 2: Nelson, how are you feeling about all the restrictions? You

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Speaker 2: think you'll be able to.

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Speaker 1: Deal with it?

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Speaker 4: You know what, the boys going to live, So I'm

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Speaker 4: going to bite my tongue, and I.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to go get saying something that's going to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just deal with it. You know, She'll is

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Speaker 4: helping real is helping us. She's been very kind, she's

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, listen, and I'm going to set them

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 3: I am going to have them pass those terms and

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they're in good hands with you, Jill,

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on your work there now, so much congratulations, and

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Speaker 2: give the shame to to Sylvia as well.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: I hope you have a long, happy life with with Conan.

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Speaker 4: Looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Man, all right, talk to.

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Speaker 3: You later, Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 1: A bunch of petty, tyrants, a lot of conditions.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, but you know what, the dog gets

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but that does a Burbank bureaucrats, a

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Speaker 6: I want to know what they're going to do about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I think she shot to be out

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Speaker 7: Wear a muzzle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, more coming up.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A

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Speaker 2: I was trying to find the names of some of

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Speaker 2: these tyrants who run Burbank Animal Control and now no

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Speaker 1: But nobody even in the news.

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Speaker 2: Stories it says city of Burbanks said, this, City of

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Speaker 2: Burbanks said. That doesn't say who these people are putting

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Speaker 2: a dog to death because some woman U taunts him

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Speaker 2: mercilessly over a long period of time. Well, of course

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Speaker 2: the dog's eventually gonna go after her, I mean, come on,

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Speaker 2: and then of course she sues because in our in

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Speaker 2: our society, nobody takes responsibility for what they incite, what

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Speaker 2: what they provoke. Anyway, I'm glad to see that Conan's

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Speaker 2: going to live, although he is in a price. Yes

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Speaker 2: he is forcibly neutered. The big chop. Well, that's it.

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Speaker 7: That's okay.

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Speaker 1: Dating days are over.

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Speaker 7: That's that's fine.

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Speaker 1: No longer can romance the other lady dogs.

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Speaker 6: We don't need any more dogs that are going to

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Speaker 2: No, but still, yeah, but that one. I'm not a guy.

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Speaker 2: You don't know what that's like.

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Speaker 6: You know that's true, But I believe in spay and

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Speaker 6: neutering animals because there are too many that wind up

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Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't get to have it. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: People believe that billionaires have so much money they don't

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Speaker 2: How many workers really are showing up full time in Washington, DC?

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Speaker 1: You are not going to believe this story.

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Speaker 2: Boys, this long overdue, decades overdue. This this DOGE committee,

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Speaker 2: the Department of Government Efficiency, which is going to be

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Speaker 2: This is this is a real thing. And I don't

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Speaker 1: Yes, I have all those big, ugly government buildings.

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Speaker 1: I never took a photo of myself.

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Speaker 7: Have you ever taken a bubble bath.

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Speaker 1: And maybe I need a bubble back.

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Speaker 2: The government owns seven thousand, six hundred and ninety seven

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Speaker 1: How can I explain this.

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Speaker 2: There's something called locality pay if you work from home.

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Speaker 1: Well, actually.

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Speaker 2: Do I explain this here, but that they make this

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Speaker 2: complicated on purpose. Apparently you could get extra money depending

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Speaker 2: on where you live. They would give you extra pay.

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Speaker 2: I guess if you had to drive into.

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Speaker 7: Work, Okay, should I get that to you?

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Speaker 2: No, So they were getting the extra pay to drive in,

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Speaker 2: but they weren't driving in.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, Yeah, that's the point of this.

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Speaker 2: Some people were living more than two thousand miles away

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Speaker 2: from their office, and they were collecting this absurd amount

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Speaker 2: of money without ever showing up. This stuff doesn't even

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Speaker 2: make any sense, but I believe it because a quarter

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Speaker 2: of federal teleworkers live over fifty miles away from the workplace.

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Speaker 2: This is what I was talking about when they said

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Speaker 2: you don't have to come to work anymore. They all

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Speaker 2: moved out of the Washington d C metro because it

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Speaker 2: was too expensive exactly, but they kept getting money because

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Speaker 2: they lived in Washington, d C. You got pay that

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Speaker 2: was pro rated to the cost of living in your city.

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Speaker 2: And then that's how it worked. And then they moved

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Speaker 2: out into the rural area and they're still getting the

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Speaker 2: money and they're not living anywhere near.

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Speaker 1: Washington, DC.

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Speaker 7: That gives me very mad.

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Speaker 2: By the way, among all the things that have degraded,

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Speaker 2: news writing has decraded terribly.

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Speaker 1: Not yours. Oh thank you, But I'm saying newspaper writing.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you.

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Speaker 2: Every day I get stories from major newspapers and I

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Speaker 2: don't understand anymore. Unless I'm having some kind of cognitive issue,

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Speaker 2: I may be going down Joe Biden road here, but

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Speaker 2: some of these. Every day there's stories and I can't.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand what I'm reading. Nobody writes clearly anymore. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I think you get the idea, musk and ron Aswami.

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Speaker 2: Six percent of federal workers showing up on a full

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Speaker 2: time basis, those people living fifty miles away, they're not

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Speaker 2: gonna They're not gonna shoke for work at all.

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Speaker 6: Now I'm really annoyed, and I mean I've been annoyed.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is just an annoying topic. We always

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Speaker 6: talk about it, but this is beyond.

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Speaker 1: We're a couple of suckers. I know we're suckers.

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Speaker 6: What are John? I think I'm gonna start working from

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Speaker 6: home tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, next thing, you know, there'll be videos if you're

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Speaker 2: riding your bike, I'll be.

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Speaker 7: Working out my dogs. I'll be doing the news while walking.

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Speaker 1: Mind might as well.

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Speaker 7: I know, why can't I do that?

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Speaker 1: Why? Why are you bothering getting all dressed up every day?

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Speaker 1: And for what? For what?

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Speaker 5: All right, you're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI.

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Speaker 2: Coming up after three o'clock. We have new clips. I

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Speaker 2: haven't even heard them yet of Gavin Newsom was at

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Speaker 2: the border today. He was held holding some press conference

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Speaker 2: on commerce and border security. Newsom is doing a press

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Speaker 2: conference on border security. Holy moly, he is shameless, absolutely shameless.

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Speaker 2: We have two audio cuts to play for you, and

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Speaker 2: we'll give you the general background of this story. But

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Speaker 2: that should be entertaining. I want to play clip. Get

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Speaker 2: which clip do I want to get?

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Speaker 1: Ready?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 2: The cut number one? I guess yeah, because they're doing

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Speaker 2: a they're doing a hearing on the shoddy Secret Service

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Speaker 2: protection that they gave Trump last summer, and one representative,

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Speaker 2: Pat Fallon, a Republican from Texas, went after the acting

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Speaker 2: Secret Service Director, Ronald Rowe.

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Speaker 1: He was he was clearing he was. He was honing

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Speaker 1: in on.

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Speaker 2: A photograph where Trump was sitting next to Roe, and

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Speaker 2: the Congressman thought Roe was grandstanding that there should have

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Speaker 2: been a special agent in charge sitting next to Trump, right,

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Speaker 2: You always got to have, you know, a secret service

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Speaker 2: body next to Trump who's assigned to be in charge

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Speaker 2: of Trump's safety. And the Congressman was implying here that

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Speaker 2: Rowe stuck his mug in sat down in that seat

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Speaker 2: so he'd be in all the photos that day because

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Speaker 2: he wasn't the special agent in charge. He wasn't there

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Speaker 2: to provide Trump protection. He was there as the acting director.

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Speaker 2: Uh so, let's play this clip because apparently this thing

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Speaker 2: went off to rails.

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Speaker 8: Were you the special agent in charge of the detail

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Speaker 8: that day? Actually, let me address this. Could you please

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Speaker 8: staff leave the Oh no, leave that one up with

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Speaker 8: the circle around me.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 8: So, Actually, Congressman, what you're not seeing is the sack

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Speaker 8: of the detail off out of the pictures view. And

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Speaker 8: that is the day where we remember more than three

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Speaker 8: thousand people.

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Speaker 1: That have died.

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Speaker 8: On nine to eleven, I actually responded to Ground zero.

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Speaker 8: I was there going through the ashes of the World

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Speaker 8: Trade Center. I was there at fresh Kills.

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Speaker 2: I'm not asking you that, and the show respect for

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Speaker 2: he died on not all that you were trying to

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Speaker 2: be do that.

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Speaker 8: Invoke nine to eleven for political purposes going, I'm not,

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Speaker 8: I'm in fucking.

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Speaker 1: To ask him and don't care only me.

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Speaker 2: I lucti member of Congress, And I'm asking you a

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Speaker 2: serious question, and you were.

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Speaker 8: I am a public servant who has served this nation,

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Speaker 8: and you won't time question on our day, on our

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Speaker 8: country's darkness.

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Speaker 4: Mister.

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Speaker 2: Now, these are the people who do show up for

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Speaker 2: work exactly children though. So it was the anniversary nine

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Speaker 2: to eleven, and and this guy Rowe, while he's the

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Speaker 2: acting Secret Service director sitting next to Trump, and Fallon said, well,

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Speaker 2: wait a second. That chair is for the special agent

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Speaker 2: in charge of the event. It's not for you. You

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Speaker 2: just wanted to be in the photo. Roe got caught

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Speaker 2: doing a little grain standing for the morning newspapers. Hey,

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Speaker 2: he whippers. That's that's great.

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Speaker 1: I love them. They got to use the gavel in

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Speaker 1: those types of hearings.

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Speaker 2: It never works. Everybody keeps shouting over the gavel. I

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Speaker 2: have a gavel, so I've got a pound. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe nobody should show up. Maybe everybody ought to stay home.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we ought to pay everybody just to stay home,

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Speaker 2: because the more they show up, the more they ruin

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Speaker 2: the place. All Right, when we return Gavin Newsom speaking

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Speaker 2: of grandstanding, he is shameless. He will say anything. Oh

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Speaker 2: and he's got he's got one big whopper in this

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Speaker 2: set of clips, doesn't he? H oh yeah, yeah so

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Speaker 2: he The reporters h questioned him at the border today.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to talk about commerce and border security, and

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Speaker 2: reporters started asking him about tariffs and about high gas prices,

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Speaker 2: and Newsome alternated between lying and word salad. So that's next.

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Speaker 2: You ready to go in there? Is you ready to

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Speaker 2: go conducting some kind of socialida.

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Speaker 7: Talking with one of the bosses here?

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Speaker 2: John all right, debormark live the KFI twenty for our newsroom. Hey,

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Speaker 2: you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You

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