1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,598 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perilla offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,759 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,839 --> 00:00:39,638 Speaker 2: Joined by the newich member of the Patriots Hall Fame, 5 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 2: Mike Rabol. 6 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 7 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 8 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 9 00:00:47,959 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: coy Or. Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, 10 00:00:50,519 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: but number one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison. 11 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:56,079 Speaker 1: Good to be home, Good to see you, guys. Search 12 00:00:56,119 --> 00:00:58,519 Speaker 1: for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 13 00:01:00,559 --> 00:01:11,078 Speaker 2: So, guys, good morning, good man. Obviously we've already played 14 00:01:11,119 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: them once, played them here, and you know, a bunch 15 00:01:13,999 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: of good players that fly around that at each level. 16 00:01:17,399 --> 00:01:19,958 Speaker 2: I feel like they have a solid veteran presidence, but 17 00:01:19,999 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 2: also so a lot of young guys have and a 18 00:01:22,919 --> 00:01:26,239 Speaker 2: few guys that have like really played together too, and 19 00:01:26,279 --> 00:01:28,359 Speaker 2: so they're they're playing really really good football right now. 20 00:01:28,679 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: They're you know, keep everything in front of them. They 21 00:01:31,119 --> 00:01:33,798 Speaker 2: try to limit big plays and they fly around and 22 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 2: are good tackling team. 23 00:01:37,599 --> 00:01:40,599 Speaker 1: Franchise has struggle down in Miami. 24 00:01:42,438 --> 00:01:43,799 Speaker 2: I don't I don't really, I don't know if I 25 00:01:43,799 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: could put a finger to it. I think it's just 26 00:01:46,199 --> 00:01:48,919 Speaker 2: obviously we got to go down there and execute, you know, 27 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:52,119 Speaker 2: play our our brand of football, you know, not turning 28 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:55,599 Speaker 2: the ball over not you know, playing from ahead, you know, 29 00:01:55,759 --> 00:01:58,439 Speaker 2: taking the fight to them a little bit, and you know, 30 00:01:58,559 --> 00:02:02,439 Speaker 2: be ready to go from the start. You know. It's uh, 31 00:02:02,559 --> 00:02:05,199 Speaker 2: it'll obviously, I think it'll probably be pretty nice down 32 00:02:05,199 --> 00:02:07,999 Speaker 2: there this time of year, So you know, I think 33 00:02:08,079 --> 00:02:09,719 Speaker 2: we should be fired up if it's a big opportunity 34 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:16,199 Speaker 2: in front of us. John, Yeah, when I saw that 35 00:02:16,239 --> 00:02:18,719 Speaker 2: play kind of go in, I was excited. Obviously. It's 36 00:02:18,799 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: it's it's always cool to see a big guy get 37 00:02:20,799 --> 00:02:24,439 Speaker 2: a touchdown, a guy that works extremely hard and has 38 00:02:24,478 --> 00:02:26,559 Speaker 2: done a lot of good things for us this year. 39 00:02:26,999 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 2: And uh so it's it's always good to see a 40 00:02:29,159 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: big guy getting the. 41 00:02:29,839 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: End zone celebration. 42 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,758 Speaker 2: Yeah, he I think he could do a little bit 43 00:02:34,759 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: more maybe. I mean, obviously, a first touchdown in the 44 00:02:36,918 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 2: NFL that's a that's a big deal. But to celebrate 45 00:02:39,559 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 2: with the guys, I think that was the main thing 46 00:02:41,159 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: he wanted to do you run. 47 00:02:42,719 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: It against so if you want from the celebration though. 48 00:02:44,959 --> 00:02:48,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we probably we already used that bullet probably, 49 00:02:49,038 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: but who knows. Who knows what we got in the 50 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:53,999 Speaker 2: chamber there. What were some things you thought you guys 51 00:02:53,999 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: did well against the Dolphins last time? You guys pleased 52 00:02:56,079 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: off especially, you know, with the benefit of hindsight, and 53 00:02:58,159 --> 00:02:59,879 Speaker 2: what are some things maybe you want to Yeah, I 54 00:02:59,879 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 2: feel like we were able to run the football a 55 00:03:01,679 --> 00:03:04,599 Speaker 2: little bit effectively last time we played. I felt like 56 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,999 Speaker 2: we weren't very good in the past, came to be 57 00:03:07,038 --> 00:03:10,719 Speaker 2: honest with you and finishing drives. I feel like we 58 00:03:10,758 --> 00:03:12,719 Speaker 2: stalled in the middle of the field a lot against them, 59 00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: so we've got to be better. They were able to 60 00:03:14,799 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 2: get us in some some long yardage earlier, like on 61 00:03:17,799 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 2: early downs that we got to stay out of, so 62 00:03:19,959 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: that we can kind of have some manageable third and 63 00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:26,279 Speaker 2: manageable second downs. So stay ahead of sticks, especially in 64 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:28,599 Speaker 2: the middle of the field, you know, and be ready 65 00:03:28,599 --> 00:03:30,559 Speaker 2: to go from the start because they're gonna bring a 66 00:03:30,559 --> 00:03:32,159 Speaker 2: lot of guys, a lot of different looks, and we 67 00:03:32,199 --> 00:03:33,159 Speaker 2: got to play with their eyes up. 68 00:03:33,799 --> 00:03:36,559 Speaker 1: Hunter, Is there any part of you that's been surprised 69 00:03:36,559 --> 00:03:38,959 Speaker 1: with how well Drake bands playing through six games of 70 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:39,759 Speaker 1: the season. 71 00:03:40,119 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 2: No, I mean, Drake's a competitor. Drake's got a lot 72 00:03:43,119 --> 00:03:46,879 Speaker 2: of talent. He's really smart, and he continues to grow 73 00:03:47,199 --> 00:03:49,959 Speaker 2: and it's it's fun to grow with him and how 74 00:03:49,999 --> 00:03:52,159 Speaker 2: he sees things, how we see things and kind of 75 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:54,199 Speaker 2: mesh those things together. I mean, so I'm not surprised 76 00:03:54,239 --> 00:03:56,799 Speaker 2: at all. I mean, we saw the glimpses throughout camp, 77 00:03:56,839 --> 00:04:00,399 Speaker 2: throughout the spring. We obviously, I mean they drafted him 78 00:04:00,399 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 2: and brought him here for a reason. I mean, he's 79 00:04:01,879 --> 00:04:03,759 Speaker 2: He's a really good football. Players are to continue to 80 00:04:03,759 --> 00:04:06,239 Speaker 2: get better off of that. With what you guys were 81 00:04:06,279 --> 00:04:08,479 Speaker 2: able to do the first Quarty guys got, but meant 82 00:04:08,519 --> 00:04:10,559 Speaker 2: to start offensively. What is it that's kind of holding 83 00:04:10,599 --> 00:04:13,639 Speaker 2: you back from having that perfect offensive game in you 84 00:04:13,679 --> 00:04:16,319 Speaker 2: on mind? Some of the little things, well, turnovers to 85 00:04:16,359 --> 00:04:19,639 Speaker 2: start start off with one obviously a big turnover, the 86 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: fumball that backed up, you know, gives him a short field, 87 00:04:22,318 --> 00:04:24,998 Speaker 2: changes the whole game. A few penalties here and there 88 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,319 Speaker 2: that are just big on us. It's just the little, 89 00:04:27,599 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: you know, small details, and those details take you a 90 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,199 Speaker 2: long way in this league. So we've got to be 91 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: clean those up and try to get better this week 92 00:04:34,318 --> 00:04:34,878 Speaker 2: at How do. 93 00:04:34,919 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: Reguarding Drakes grow? How much of you seen it pre 94 00:04:38,678 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: stap in terms of reco guys who wants cunning all 95 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:42,519 Speaker 1: off on Staple pressure. 96 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's preparation through the week, just how 97 00:04:45,039 --> 00:04:47,439 Speaker 2: the coaches are preparing him to and how he's seeing things. 98 00:04:47,479 --> 00:04:49,519 Speaker 2: I think that's that's a big thing for him, just 99 00:04:49,639 --> 00:04:52,079 Speaker 2: being able to you know, get out there and be 100 00:04:52,159 --> 00:04:55,199 Speaker 2: able to decipher things. So each week he gets out there, 101 00:04:55,198 --> 00:04:57,199 Speaker 2: each time he sees things. I mean, he's going to 102 00:04:57,198 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 2: continue to grow, like I said, and uh, he's doing 103 00:04:59,799 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: a great job. He really is. I mean, run game, pass, 104 00:05:02,359 --> 00:05:06,399 Speaker 2: game protection wise, you know, he's he's continuing to grow 105 00:05:06,438 --> 00:05:08,959 Speaker 2: each week. It's crazy to ask you about a young 106 00:05:09,159 --> 00:05:11,399 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert from your experience with him versus the kid 107 00:05:11,438 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 2: you're playing with out there's there's a lot of similarities 108 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:18,278 Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. You know, they're they're different, 109 00:05:18,399 --> 00:05:22,079 Speaker 2: but there's they're similar in a way too. So I 110 00:05:22,159 --> 00:05:24,519 Speaker 2: mean Justin's a special player, but you know Drake's a 111 00:05:24,678 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: very special player too, you know both. I think the 112 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:31,319 Speaker 2: size always helps. I mean Drake is a big guy, 113 00:05:31,359 --> 00:05:33,198 Speaker 2: and you know, Justin obviously is a very big guy. 114 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,559 Speaker 2: The mobility always helps to be able to create plays 115 00:05:36,599 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: on the run, not just passing, but also with his feet. 116 00:05:39,999 --> 00:05:43,318 Speaker 2: So yeah, there's definitely similarities. You know, I've been been 117 00:05:43,399 --> 00:05:44,999 Speaker 2: blessed to be able to play with you know, obviously 118 00:05:45,198 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: Justin and then now with Drake. 119 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,759 Speaker 1: What allows you to find sort of the synergy with 120 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: Drake when he's moving off his spot, it seems like 121 00:05:53,438 --> 00:05:55,198 Speaker 1: you're almost the first guy that he seems to fight 122 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:55,879 Speaker 1: in the situation. 123 00:05:55,999 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously you work on scrambled drill a 124 00:05:57,759 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 2: little bit, but sometimes it's just like a field thing. 125 00:06:01,558 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like always in football, ever 126 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: since I started playing, I've always just kind of had 127 00:06:06,599 --> 00:06:08,998 Speaker 2: a feel for the game and feel for zones. And 128 00:06:10,558 --> 00:06:12,319 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's maybe it's not something like a 129 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: coach has ever taught me, but it's just kind of 130 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:16,838 Speaker 2: something that I have just a natural kind of knack 131 00:06:16,958 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: for and feel of kind of where I need to 132 00:06:19,078 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: be Maybe sometimes, I mean there's always I need to 133 00:06:21,198 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: be better on some of those scrambled drills. There's other 134 00:06:23,039 --> 00:06:24,998 Speaker 2: scramble drills where I'm not not that great at it, 135 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:28,519 Speaker 2: but sometimes just trying to give an option so that 136 00:06:28,558 --> 00:06:30,399 Speaker 2: he can, you know, have an outlet for the all. 137 00:06:31,599 --> 00:06:33,759 Speaker 1: See a little bit of a aggression the last teams 138 00:06:33,799 --> 00:06:34,519 Speaker 1: in the Redstone. 139 00:06:34,759 --> 00:06:37,558 Speaker 2: I'm curious what you've seen as you after, whether it's 140 00:06:37,558 --> 00:06:42,639 Speaker 2: as an offense. Yeah, you know, that's that's huge. I 141 00:06:42,678 --> 00:06:44,759 Speaker 2: mean that's really I think where we lost last game 142 00:06:44,879 --> 00:06:48,078 Speaker 2: is just you know, settling for field goals and not touchdowns. 143 00:06:48,119 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 2: So we just got to be execute better, you know, 144 00:06:50,919 --> 00:06:53,079 Speaker 2: on the run game on the mont. Like I said, 145 00:06:53,159 --> 00:06:55,879 Speaker 2: little details, I think there were some penalties there that 146 00:06:55,999 --> 00:06:57,959 Speaker 2: kind of when you get behind the sticks on a 147 00:06:58,039 --> 00:07:00,758 Speaker 2: short field, it is very hard to kind of recover 148 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:02,959 Speaker 2: and it kind of gives the advantage back to the defense. 149 00:07:03,078 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 2: So keep the defense on their heels, you know, and 150 00:07:06,558 --> 00:07:12,599 Speaker 2: and executing the play everybody at one time, Like everybody's 151 00:07:12,599 --> 00:07:14,079 Speaker 2: got to do their job, and I think that's what 152 00:07:14,119 --> 00:07:15,078 Speaker 2: we've got to focus on down there. 153 00:07:18,879 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 1: Patriots Playbook join John Rook as he brings you all 154 00:07:21,719 --> 00:07:25,079 Speaker 1: the latest Patriots Talk, an expert commentary direct from Patriots HP. 155 00:07:25,799 --> 00:07:28,159 Speaker 1: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent beat 156 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:30,479 Speaker 1: writers that bring you a unique media view the state 157 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:31,478 Speaker 1: of the team for where. 158 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:32,359 Speaker 2: The Patriots are concerned. 159 00:07:32,679 --> 00:07:34,919 Speaker 1: Let's just get one thing done, and let's get it 160 00:07:35,039 --> 00:07:36,518 Speaker 1: done right, and then we. 161 00:07:36,559 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 2: Can worry about versatility. 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