1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: your bets. It is me, Joey PA, Joe Pi's APN 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: this is BP NFL. It's time to look ahead to 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: week twelve in the NFL. Talk about the deeper stats 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: that are gonna make an impact in your betting life. Also, 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: look at the futures market because the MVP odds are 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: shifting all around after some big wins by certain teams 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: in the AFC. 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You know, you have 39 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: that big giant win for the Steelers beating at home 40 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Evens. They get to stay at home here, 41 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: and you have an opportunity now where we're looking ahead 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: and the Cleveland Browns are a team that seemed like, well, 43 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: they're in a bit of disarray. I mean, that's certainly 44 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: where we're going. We thought maybe with Deshaun Watson things 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: would go better. Excuse me, correction, we're in Cleveland for 46 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: this one. So when we're talking about short distance traveling here, 47 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: not as big of a deal, right, So, like the 48 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Stealers will pick it up and going to La 49 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: or something like that. They're now eight and two. The 50 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: Browns are two and eight. The number for this game 51 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: is Pittsburgh minus three and a half. You might think 52 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: it would be greater considering the way these teams have 53 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: been playing in the last month. What's your take on 54 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: this game here as we look ahead to what might 55 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: impact it on Thursday. 56 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. So this opened at Brown's four and a half 57 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: point underdogs that you mentioned. Current line is Browns is 58 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: three and a half point underdogs. The bigger shift has 59 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 2: been in the total. It opened at forty has gone 60 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: all the way down to thirty five and a half 61 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: thirty six and a half thirty six, depending on where 62 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: you're looking. And I think a lot of that is 63 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: due to some potential weather concerns in leveland Nette. That 64 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: stadium sits right along the lake there, and Thursday night 65 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: it's looking like there could be rain and snow wins 66 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: from fifteen to twenty five miles an hour, and that 67 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: fifteen mile an hour sort of threshold is what I 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: look for in terms of when wind is going to 69 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 2: start impacting things. And I think the weather is going 70 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: to have a direct impact on which side better is 71 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: like for this because the way that Pittsburgh plays, they 72 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: like to air it out that are not necessarily air 73 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: it out, but Russell Wilson's got those nice teardrop throws, 74 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: throwing it deep down the field, and bad weather is 75 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: not conducive to that style of play. And so if 76 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: we're expecting this to be a lower scoring game where 77 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh offense is impacted more by the weather than 78 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: I think there could be some more movement towards Cleveland. 79 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: Now crossing the the three is probably unlikely at this point, 80 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: but again, I do think there will be a little 81 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: bit more public favoring for Cleveland if this weather does 82 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: hold out. 83 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the next game here, Number two, 84 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: when we're talking about lines that might shift a little 85 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: bit in the days to come. The New York Football 86 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: Giants have made a change of quarterback, My paison, Tommy 87 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: DeVito is back, signs that the tank is full on 88 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: now for the highest draft pick it could possibly get, 89 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: they are taking on the Buccaneers. So that is the 90 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: pass defense that Andrew and I talked about on Yesterdays show. 91 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: If you missed it, go back and watch and listen. 92 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: But Sam, like any quarterback any offense right now, receiving wise, 93 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I want to get into the problem market when it 94 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: comes to the Tampa Bay. Uh, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 95 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: here because they've been so bad this year. But Ken, 96 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: Tommy Devita, oh, support Malik Neighbors and Wandell Robinson and 97 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: everything they've got going on, despite the fact that you know, 98 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: the Giants are another team that seems to be going 99 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: in a terrible direction. So the Tampa secondary not only bad, 100 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: but also some health issues. So how does that all 101 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: factor into where this line might move? Because currently right 102 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: now I see it sitting at five. You're finding it 103 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: five and a half in some spots here where Tampa 104 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: is favored on the road, and then the number is 105 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: hovering somewhere between forty one and a half and forty two. 106 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta back in action this week a bit 107 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: of a shock. I think that they went with him 108 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: over Drew Locke, but they also did mention that Drew 109 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: lock is going to be the backup for this game 110 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: and not Daniel Jones. Not that that has a huge impact, 111 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: but this line moved about a point and a half 112 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 2: in favor of Tampa Bay with the news of New 113 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: York benching Daniel Jones. And Daniel Jones has been bad 114 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: this year. I mean that that's no secret, but I 115 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 2: don't think he's been the worst quarterback in the league 116 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: by any means, and I think offers a slight floor 117 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: that Tommy DeVito probably doesn't. But you mentioned the Tampa 118 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: Bay secondary in their passing defense, they actually look like 119 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: they might be getting a little healthy. It sounds like 120 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: Jamel Dean was designated to return to practice off of 121 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: injured reserves so he could be back Zion McCollum, who 122 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: left the San Francisco game prior to thereby early it 123 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: sounds like his hamstring injury is not expected to be serious, 124 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: so hopefully they get him playing as well. I again, 125 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: I've mentioned several times on this show there is a 126 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: phenomenon where backup quarterbacks playing take a little bit more 127 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: money because the market tends to overreact a little bit 128 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: to that news. But I think that's more typical in 129 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: injury replacement type scenarios where the quarterback goes down on Sunday, 130 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: then the line opens knowing that that quarterback is not 131 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: going to play, and then that backup quarterback team gets 132 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: bet on. So I don't think we see that same 133 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: phenomenon here with Tommy Cutlets and the Giants. Here, I 134 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: would expect this to probably be no more than or 135 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: at least bucks by four and a half by the 136 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: time the game happens. 137 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: Our one more game to discuss here and talks of 138 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: line movement potentially, and that's the forty nine Ers heading 139 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: to Green Bay come off a terrible loss there now 140 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: five and five, the Packers are seven and three. The 141 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: number for this game is forty seven and a half 142 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: to forty eight and a half. You're finding it in 143 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: some different spots there. You're finding San Francisco plus two 144 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: and a half in some spots, you know, like right now, 145 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: it seems to be moving constantly this game. I have 146 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: a take on this game and curious what your thoughts 147 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: are to me. This is like the classic game where 148 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: you saw the forty nine Ers fall short against the 149 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. It's doom and gloom and everything's gonna be terrible, 150 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: and then they go on the road and they beat 151 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: the Packers. Now, I know you're a Packers fan, so 152 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to offend you here on the program, 153 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: but it does kind of feel like that is the path, 154 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: especially when you look back at last year's Eagles, it's 155 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: the same struggle where you know, the games where you 156 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: think they're gonna win, they don't, and then games where 157 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: they maybe shouldn't they do, and then they limp into 158 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs and they're gone in the first round. Like 159 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: that kind of feels like where the forty nine Ers 160 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: are headed this season. I don't think they're done by 161 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: any stretch. And let's be honest, the Packers got away 162 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: with one last week, and I think this is a 163 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: really interesting spot where everyone's taken on water here with 164 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers. But I don't think the ship 165 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: is sinking quite yet your thoughts. 166 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me start this off by sharing an emphatic 167 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 2: go pack go. 168 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: That's fair, fair, that's all the cheese. 169 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: Kurt, you mentioned that the forty nine ers had a 170 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: terrible loss. The Packers had a air wile win. If 171 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: there was one, I mean, they shouldn't have won that 172 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: game realistically. The defense did not play well. Obviously had 173 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: two turnovers in the red zone against the Bears, so 174 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: you know, by that standard, he possibly could have said 175 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: that maybe they did deserve to win. But in any case, 176 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: I think I think you're on the right track again. 177 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: You're selling the Packers high and buying the forty nine 178 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: Ers low in this situation. Now, for me, it comes 179 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: down to two key injuries for the forty nine ers 180 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: as to whether I want to back them. First, it's 181 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: George Kittle. He missed Week eleven with a hamstring. He 182 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 2: was limited in practice late in the week, was marked 183 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: as questionable on Friday, went to doubtful on Sunday, and 184 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: then didn't play. Sounds like they're expecting him to practice 185 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: on Wednesday, so that's some good news in his favor. 186 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: Nick Bosa, on the other hand, left the Seattle game 187 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: win with a hip injury. He only played the first 188 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 2: half of the game. I haven't seen anything about his 189 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: health status and whether it's going to be long term 190 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: or not. But these are about the two biggest non 191 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: quarterback injuries that could happen to the San Francisco forty 192 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: nine Ers. I mean, George Kittle has been possibly their 193 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: best offensive weapon so far this year and Nick Boso 194 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: was in the conversation for defensive Player of the Year. 195 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 2: So I want to wait until we get news on 196 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: their health before backing the forty nine ers. Again, I 197 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 2: do lean with you that I think the forty nine 198 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: ers might be the right play given that scenario. 199 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it really is. And again, make 200 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: sure you set the line alerts the custom line alerts 201 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: on your VP app if you haven't already download the app, 202 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: seek your sports books for free, and set the line 203 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: alerts for this one, because I want to see how 204 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: the public continues to look ahead. But right now, if 205 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: I can get and I've already been on betting Pros, 206 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: you can follow me on there at Joe Piezopia. Just 207 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: put in the search tab there. I'm not on the 208 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: forty Doineers of plus two and a half. 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We could certainly agree 227 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: on that and now we're looking ahead too for some 228 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: movement because we're also seeing you know, Jalen Hurts we 229 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: talked about at twenty to one. That's kind of interesting. 230 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: He's been moving up the board, so all of a sudden, 231 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: the MVP race is getting a little tighter at the top. 232 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: We have Lamar at plus two hundred, you have Josh 233 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: Allen at plus one twenty five. They're at the top 234 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: of the board. Then he got Jared Goff after another 235 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: stunning blowout by the Lions last week. He's moved into 236 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: that conversation. He's leapfrog Mahomes. He is a plus eight 237 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: hundred Mahomes plus twelve hundred. Jalen Hurts now is a 238 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: plus seventeen some books plus sixteen hundred from what I've 239 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: seen justin Herbert kind of getting some love here. But 240 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: this has been now a race that's getting whittled down 241 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. Do you think Josh Allen should be 242 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: at the top of it the way you see this, 243 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: is he willing this Buffalo Bill's team or is he 244 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: really just a product of the fact this division is 245 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: not really good and they've caught some teams maybe at 246 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: the right time. 247 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I was taking to look at the market 248 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: this morning, and I do think it is pretty well 249 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: priced out. I mean, I think that this is Josh 250 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: Allen's award to lose at this point. And I say 251 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: that for a couple of reasons. One again, the bills 252 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: aren't eight, and two they're not eating too without him. Obviously, 253 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: they took down the big bad giant in the Kansas 254 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: City Chiefs and they head into to Thereby this week. 255 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: But they have a legit shot at the number one 256 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: seed in the AFC right now, which would be a 257 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: huge mark on the resume of Josh Allen this year. 258 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: And I think, I know I've mentioned this previously on 259 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: the show. If it comes down to Allen and Jackson, 260 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: I think the voters lean more towards Alan as you know, 261 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: sort of a legacy type vote sort of thing. I mean, 262 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: Jackson won last year. 263 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: Don't you feel like there's fatigue that you know, you 264 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: get these windows where it's like, oh, okay, it's the 265 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady Peyton Manning era, and then we move on 266 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: to some find somebody else and you see, guys when 267 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: like two in a row or two out of the 268 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, three years, and then when another one, and 269 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: then they kind of get bored with that person and 270 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: move somewhere else. It does feel like that's maybe what's 271 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: happening in the market. I've got Josh Allen at a 272 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: much higher number, so I'm loving the fact that he's 273 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: at number one. I have a question for you, though, 274 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: if Josh Allen doesn't get the one seed, let's say 275 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Jared Goff and the Detroy Lions end up with the 276 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: best record, is it fair to start giving him a 277 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: little bit of credit? Like if the Lions are the 278 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: best team in the NFL quote unquote, which again I'm 279 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: still skeptical that they are. I think they're the best 280 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: team in the NFC. I've thought that going into the season. 281 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: I think it past the midway point. But when do 282 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: we start giving Jared Gobson credit? 283 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: That's That's the one I'm I'm struggling with the most, 284 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: because again, I think there's there's a subset of people 285 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: who are going to give credit to Ben Johnson and 286 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: the often scheme that they've had. The Lions defense has 287 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: also played extremely well this season, and the two running 288 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: backs are running extremely well, which again is not on 289 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: Jared Goff. People will point to the five interception game 290 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: that Goff had back on it was a Monday or 291 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: Sunday night football. But the reason why I think Goff 292 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: has a legit shot is he plays three more standalone 293 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: games this season. He's got the Bears on Thanksgiving next week, 294 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: He's got the Packers in prime time the week after. 295 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: This isn't a standalone game, but they play the Bills 296 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: in the late afternoon the week after that. So if 297 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: the Lions beat the Bills again, this could be one 298 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: of those you know, you know, how can you give 299 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: it to Josh Allen when Jared Goff beat him? And 300 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: then in week seventeen they played the San Francisco forty 301 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: nine ers, and so there are going to be a 302 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: lot of eyes on Jared Goff. Now, it could go 303 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: one of several different ways. It could go the way 304 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: that it went against the Texans. But if this offense 305 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: continues to play as well as they have, it's I 306 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: think it's going to be difficult again if the Lions 307 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: end up fifteen and two for him to be out 308 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: of the conversation. Obviously, I think it's you know, Goff 309 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: is certainly the leader in the club's house. I mean, 310 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: you mentioned the odds in the NFC to be sort 311 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: of the NFC favorite for the award. So again, I 312 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: think this market is really well priced right now. I 313 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: don't see a ton of value anywhere. I don't like 314 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: betting on Herbert right now. Like he it's a good story, 315 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: we're playing great football, but that defense is also carrying 316 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: them quite a bit as well. 317 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: What about the Rookie of the Year market too, Because 318 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: we've seen now all of a sudden Jane Daniels two 319 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: losses in a row. You know, it's still very heavy 320 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: in the minus and I think you know it's still 321 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: his to lose. But if they do, wanna ravel a 322 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: little bit here in the second half, bow Nick is 323 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: a plus four hundred now he is leap frogged every 324 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison and Caleb Williams, They're all distant memories. Brock 325 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: Bowers is interesting at plus twenty one hundred two, but 326 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: probably not gonna win this award. It does typically go 327 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: to quarterbacks. We know this, so bo Nick's at plus 328 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: four hundred interesting because the schedule Vegas Cleveland than the 329 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: BUYE Indy Charger, Cincinnati, Kansas City. There's four more wins there. 330 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: I think potentially and if so, they become a ten 331 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: win team. Ken bow Knicks actually kind of make his 332 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: case here towards this stretch run, or do you think 333 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: it's still just that's foolish. It's still Jayden Daniels, and 334 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: he's been the guy that's taken over because Jade Daniels 335 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: last two weeks obviously, you know, things haven't gone his 336 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: way in terms of victories. 337 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think you know, with Rookie of 338 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: the Year markets, being on winning a winning team is 339 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: necessarily a prerequisite for for winning that award, much like 340 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: it is for the MVP. And so if you think 341 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: about what it'll take for bow Knicks to win this award, 342 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: it's probably a Jayden and Daniels injury, I mean, and 343 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 2: if Daniels doesn't get hurt within the next two weeks, 344 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: they head into their Week fourteen. By again, they've got 345 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: a pretty easy schedule down the stretch as well, And 346 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: so I just don't know if bow Knicks is really 347 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: going to be able to play up enough to overtake 348 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: him outright, just like by merit and stats and all 349 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. Again, the Denver defense is going 350 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: to get a lot of credit for the way that 351 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: Denver has won this year. So I again, I think 352 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 2: this is truly Jane Daniels' award to lose. If he 353 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: gets hurt and is out for the final four weeks, 354 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: then I think that is the best way to open 355 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: up the door for Bonnicks. 356 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: Well of the Washington Commanders and Jaden Daniels. Let's transition 357 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: right into the stats of the week that are gonna 358 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: matter the most, because if ever there was a time 359 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: for the Commanders to get an opponent like the Dallas Cowboys, 360 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: this is it. You're coming off two straight losses. Cowboys 361 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 1: obviously reeling what a stupid thing Mike McCarthy said yesterday 362 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: too about how we deserve to win. We prepare like 363 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: we deserve to win really really well, then maybe the 364 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: preparation is no good. I don't know, but Sam, let's 365 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: talk about it here because maybe you know, six eight 366 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: weeks ago this was a looming loss here theoretically for 367 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders. Now it feels like anything, but it 368 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: feels like a get right game to me. 369 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm gonna make full a case for the 370 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: Commander's team total over twenty seven and a half minus 371 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: one fourteen on fan duel. Right now, if we look 372 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: at the Commander's offense and how they're playing with pace, 373 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 2: they are currently fourth in neutral script seconds per play. 374 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: They are first in no huddle rate. Their offensive efficiency 375 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: has obviously dipped a little bit in the past couple weeks, 376 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: but they're still sixth in early down success, right, so 377 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: they should be able to sustain drives, especially against this 378 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: Cowboys defense. I mean, the Texans offense on Monday night 379 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: didn't look great at all, yet they still breeze to 380 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: thirty four points. And then the Cowboys offense has gotten 381 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: a little bit slower with Cooper Rush under center. But 382 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: that the offense is not good either. So if they're 383 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: playing a little quicker and are going three not quickly, 384 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: then that could add a couple more possessions to Washington 385 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: to give them more opportunities to score. 386 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to another one too, that's got 387 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: four outcomes written all over it. I find it very 388 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: hard to invest in Arizona Seattle. The number is forty 389 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 1: seven and a half of the total. It's you know, 390 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: practically a pick them here. You got Arizona with plus 391 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: one and a half. In some spots, you got Seattle 392 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: A plus one and some other spots. So I have 393 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: a hard time figuring this one out the identity of 394 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: these teams. Arizona's coming off the buy in theory, I 395 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: would like to favor them, but Seattle's coming off a 396 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: very big emotional win. So Sam, how do you how 397 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: do you look at this one? Because this is one 398 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: of the tougher games I think on the Week twelve slate. 399 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: It's yeah, it is tough to handicap right now. And 400 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: this is a massive divisional game. I mean, if if 401 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: the Cardinals win, they're seven and four and the forty 402 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 2: nine ers lose, they're two games up on the NFC 403 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: West Division race. But if the Seahawks win, then they're 404 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: right back in it to win that division. But I 405 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: do think Arizona's biggest advantage is in the rushing game. 406 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: James Connor this year has played way better than myself 407 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 2: and I think many others expected. And the rushing defense 408 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: for Seattle has been one of their weaknesses. But on 409 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: the Arizona side, they're eighth in rushing success rate their 410 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: second in explosive rush rate, while again Seattle's defense is 411 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: bottom eight in both runs rushing EPA per play and 412 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: success rate allowed. I do think if Seattle wants a 413 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 2: chance to win this game, they need to get back 414 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: to throwing the ball more. They've been running a little 415 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 2: bit more the past couple of weeks. I don't know 416 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: if that's just because DK Metcalf has been out for 417 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: several weeks, but there the Seattle passing attack is still 418 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: third in explosive pass rate. They just need to get 419 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: the ball out quickly on some short passes, let the 420 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: receivers that they have win after the catch, and hopefully 421 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: stay competitive that way. Because again, the rushing game Kenneth 422 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: Walker hasn't been that successful the last couple of weeks. 423 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: So if I were to give a lean, I think 424 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: I lean slightly towards the Cardinals, and I think I 425 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: would potentially play it on the alt lines with some 426 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: you know, James Connor rushing alts baked in because the 427 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,239 Speaker 2: thesis being if they get out to a lead, I 428 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: think they're going to be able to build on that lead, 429 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 2: have success continuing to run the ball, and just sort 430 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: of put away the Seahawks. 431 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: All right, last one here for Week twelve before you 432 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: get to survivor pool picks. If you're still alive in those. 433 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: The Eagles defense has played really well over the last month, 434 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: something I talked about on How to Bounds yesterday on 435 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: the FP Feed, something I've been talking about just on 436 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: every show the last couple of weeks. And it seems 437 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: like Fangio's really figured things out with this crew. And 438 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: it was a very green group, you know, a lot 439 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: of turnover, a lot of youth, I know, most of 440 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: them coming out of Georgia. But still it seems like 441 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: they're starting to figure it out. That's why I kind 442 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: of like the Jalen Hurts rising of the MVP discussion. 443 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: I don't think he's out of their own possibility either, 444 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: depending on how things go towards these stretch run. But 445 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: when you're looking at the Eagles this specific week here, 446 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: they've been rolling a hears has been a touchdown machine. 447 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: So when you're looking at the odds for this game, 448 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: how's that defense enter into it for you in terms 449 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: of how you want to wager on it? 450 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was skeptical of the Eagles defensive improvement. I 451 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: thought it was more a function of their schedule and 452 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: the teams that they were facing. Obviously, their performance against 453 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: the Bengals who our top five offense was sort of 454 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: the lone impressive game that I saw from them, but 455 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: the rest were again a bit unimpressive. But Thursday Night 456 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: really turned me into a believer. Right now. On the season, 457 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: Philly rinks fifth in EPA per play allowed third, and 458 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 2: success rate third and explosive play rate allowed. They are 459 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 2: only twenty fifth in pressure rate, but their tenth in 460 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: sack rate. And you know, ultimately, I think this comes 461 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: down to the production matching the talent that they have 462 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: on defense. I mean, Quinny and Mitchell is a stud. 463 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: He should be in the conversation for defensive rookie in 464 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 2: the year. Cooper dejen has played extremely well. Zach Bond 465 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: is currently the fourth highest graded linebacker on PFF. Jalen 466 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: Carter is turning into the game record that we thought 467 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: he'd be, and he's making his pressure excuse me, making 468 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: his presence known as a pass rusher, not just in 469 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: the run game. So I think, you know, in the 470 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: off season, a lot of people talked about how the 471 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 2: Fangio defensive system takes some time to implement, for players 472 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: to get used to how it works and all that 473 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: sort of stuff, And I think we're starting to see 474 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: the returns of that come in, and so you know, 475 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: I think that the Rams present a difficult opportunity, but 476 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 2: I do think that the Eagles defense has the advantage 477 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 2: in that matchup. 478 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: I do too. I think we're gonna end up somehow 479 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: eventually with the Eagles and Lions. Like that's the game 480 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: that I think we all want to see when we 481 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: get to the NFC playoffs. All right, before we get 482 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: out of here, it's time for Survivor pool picks and Sam, 483 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: we got a little bit of business to do afterwards. 484 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: But who was going to survive in advance in Week 485 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: twelve in the NFL with a. 486 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 2: W Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Washington Commanders in 487 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: this spot. I've talked about how much I like their 488 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: off They are also facing a Cowboys team that are 489 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: in the widows maker spot right now, coming off of 490 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: Monday Night Football and the Commanders having extra rest having 491 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: played on Thursday Night Football. There's a chance that Washington 492 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: gets Marshaun Lattimore in on their defense for the first 493 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 2: time this season, and the Cowboys are starting Cooper Rush. 494 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: So that should be all you need to know, all. 495 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: Right, one more bit of business to do It's a 496 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: bittersweet moment for us here at Betting Pros. This is 497 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: going to be the Sam's last show with us, unfortunately 498 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: for us, but fortunately for him, a great opportunity has 499 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: presented itself in the sports betting space that he just 500 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: could not say no to. Clearly, Tommy DeVito and Sam 501 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: hop and have the same agent, they make those kind 502 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: of offers. But Sam, what you've been able to give 503 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: us here at Bettingpros dot com and on the podcast, 504 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: your knowledge or insights, the betting models, all the data 505 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: analysis you've been able to do is really help not 506 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: only the growth of Betting Pros, it's helped all the 507 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: people who subscribe to the channels, all the people who 508 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: read the articles and go through everything, and you've really 509 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: helped grow this Betting Pros product. So on behalf of 510 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: all of us here on the Fantasy Pros Betting pro 511 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: side of things. We just want to thank you for 512 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: doing what you've done and working so hard over the 513 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: last two years. And also we're gonna miss you, buddy, 514 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: but we're all excited for this opportunity. Again. It's a 515 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: great one for you, so hopefully it will lead to 516 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: more good things down the road for you and continued 517 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: success in what's going to be a very bright career 518 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: in the crazy mad scientist laboratory. So we're gonna mission 519 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: my friend. Any final thoughts before the show closes. 520 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, just a big things to you, the Fantasy Pros 521 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: and Betting Pros family, all of the subscribers and listeners. 522 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: It's been a joy to be able to talk betting 523 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: and talk football with you guys each each and every 524 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: week the past couple of years. And yeah, looking forward 525 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: to the next step. But certainly is a better suite 526 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 2: ending right now? 527 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: It is? It is. You'll be missed, but we're all 528 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: very excited for this is a great opportunity for you. 529 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: And don't worry, we're not going anywhere. All the Betting 530 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: pro shows are still going to be rocking and rolling here. 531 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: But we will miss Sam Hoppin, that's for sure, especially 532 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: on the team trips because Sam is a fun guy. 533 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: On the team trips, that'll do it for us. But 534 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: the story of the game, it goes on for Sam Hoppin. 535 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: I'm Joey p. We'll see you next time. Kids. 536 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to the Betting Pros Podcast. 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