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Speaker 1: This this one Bill's Live presented by Calida.

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Speaker 2: Health, referred to as a game of inches, A couple

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Speaker 2: of inches on a few different throws that could have

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Speaker 2: drastically changed the game and would be talking a different

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Speaker 2: tune this morning.

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Speaker 3: That's where we're at and this is what we get.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe in the Bill.

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Speaker 5: They all don't have home windows cloth.

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Speaker 4: On this team.

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Speaker 3: But talk is cheap, and the stormy changes every week.

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Speaker 3: So it's our job to write.

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Speaker 4: A quarterback draws first and gold Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: Are we going to measure up to our expectations?

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Speaker 3: He is a Summersault, show our resilience, the ball of

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Speaker 3: strips picked.

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Speaker 7: Up and fight every inch, and he'll find out on

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Speaker 7: the biggest stage in prime time.

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Speaker 3: Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 4: If you weren't ready already, you're probably ready now. Bills

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Speaker 4: Jets Monday Night Football, finishing off Week six in the

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four NFL season. Chris Brown Steve Tasker with

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Speaker 4: you for an extended pregame of tonight's game. As we

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Speaker 4: go three hours here on Monday previewing the game. Usually

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Speaker 4: Steve and I are reviewing the Bill's latest game. We're

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Speaker 4: previewing here tonight for you, and we've got a jam

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Speaker 4: packed show. Eric Wood'll join us in a little while.

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Speaker 4: We'll also have ESPN sideline reporter Laura Rutledge joining us

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Speaker 4: in the third hour of the show. So got a

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Speaker 4: jam packed lineup for you. So looking forward to talking

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Speaker 4: to everybody about this matchup here tonight, and I guess, Steve,

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Speaker 4: we should begin with the injury situation. Got some questionable

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Speaker 4: players on both teams going into tonight's game, where pregame

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Speaker 4: warmups could largely determine who will and will not play. First,

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Speaker 4: for the Jets, Steve Nickel corner Michael Carter out with

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Speaker 4: a back injury. He is not going to go. He's

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Speaker 4: gonna be replaced by Brandon Eckles, who actually replaced him

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Speaker 4: in the lineup last week as well, had an interception

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Speaker 4: late in that game in the lost to Minnesota over

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Speaker 4: there at the Nickel corner spot. And then starting tight

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Speaker 4: end Tyler Conklin and linebacker CJ. Mosley, who's missed the

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Speaker 4: last two games with a tow injury. Both those guys

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Speaker 4: questionable for tonight's game. Everybody else is good to go,

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Speaker 4: and I think the biggest development there Steve right tackle

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Speaker 4: Morgan Moses is back after a two game absence with

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Speaker 4: a knee injury. He takes Olu Fashanu out of the lineup.

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Speaker 4: The rookie first round pick has struggled mightily at right tackle.

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Speaker 4: Not gonna be a concern tonight with Moses back in

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and the injuries to the Jets, I mean that

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Speaker 8: at this point we start into that cycle if some

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Speaker 8: at some spots and not as healthy as others. It's

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Speaker 8: just it's the story of the NFL. The Bills are

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Speaker 8: going through it the same way with Ed Oliver being

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Speaker 8: out of the lineup. Really he's the guy that's been

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Speaker 8: All these guys that are questionable and the guys that

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Speaker 6: I don't think there's any question.

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Speaker 8: Even if the guys who are questionable can play tonight

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Speaker 8: for both sides, they're not gonna be one hundred percent.

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Speaker 8: It's gonna be interesting to see how those guys mash plus.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you get this, you get the guy coming

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And speaking of that, James Cook, who is one

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Speaker 4: He's gonna get his normal workload. I tend to think

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Speaker 8: Right, And even if he's on a pitch count, it

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Speaker 8: you know, it'll be. How are they gonna use him?

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Speaker 8: this point. I mean that's a real question mark. What's

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Speaker 4: To give you?

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Speaker 8: I'm you know, and this too, I think most Bills

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Speaker 8: and the other running backs on this on the roster

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Speaker 8: of them. I mean, this is James Cook has been dynamic,

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Speaker 8: but he's also had the opportunity I think these other

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Speaker 8: bump in their performance from this. Ty Johnson is gonna

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Speaker 8: love to get more carries in a.

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Speaker 4: Game, especially against his former team.

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Speaker 6: That's right. So I'm I'm yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think the other the like finger quotes, the others

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Speaker 8: James Cook is he's a good player. It's never good.

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Speaker 8: It's never good when you lose guys.

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Speaker 4: I can't tell you that Bill's Mafia is well represented

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Speaker 4: here in the New York metropolitan area. I had an

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Speaker 4: She texted me this morning and said, I am wearing

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Speaker 4: about a dozen go bills in response. So they're here,

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, my son lives and works in Manhattan as well.

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Speaker 8: He's going to the game tonight with like forty of

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Speaker 4: There always is a fair representation here because you have

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Speaker 4: a lot of Western New York transplants that you know,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and division games seem to be that way as well.

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Speaker 8: You get a lot more crossover with fanship in division

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Speaker 6: You do get some.

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Speaker 8: And for the destination places, you get them for Arizona, Vegas,

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Speaker 8: I remember that being a really fun game when you

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Speaker 8: You have your sayings about the Jets, They're they're masters

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Speaker 8: Jet fans are happiest when they have a really good

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I don't know if happy is uh maybe

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Speaker 4: They live on their angs.

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Speaker 4: They live on their angs. It is self sustaining. I

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Speaker 6: I think there's something about it.

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Speaker 8: The Jet fans consume with relish, the righteous indignation of

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Speaker 8: they they dig on the opportunity to jump on it.

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Speaker 8: I'm I'm convinced.

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Speaker 4: Right, And I know we've touched on this to some extent,

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Speaker 4: when interim head coach Jeff Oulbrick took over, his first

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Speaker 4: if if the head guy just got asked. Everybody else

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Speaker 8: I think this is a really strange dynamic because we've

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Speaker 8: we've seen throughout our lifetime and every year or two

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Speaker 8: at least, there's always a head coach in the NFL

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Speaker 8: who gets let go mid season, right, and it's never

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Speaker 8: good because the team is stinking so bad that all

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Speaker 8: the pressure is off the players. And that's when you

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Speaker 8: it with an interim head coach. You know, it's not

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Speaker 8: gonna be you know, all the pressure now is on

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Speaker 6: The players.

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Speaker 8: You know, they're they're kind of off the hook in

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Speaker 8: a known it says, listen, le you know win now,

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Speaker 6: Let's go.

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Speaker 8: You've got Sauce Gardner coming out saying, hey, we're still

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Speaker 6: Tonight and that.

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Speaker 8: more and more snaps under him.

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Speaker 4: All right, So let me ask you this because we

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Speaker 4: to not have a lot of pre snap motion. As

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Speaker 4: a result, the Jets have not put much pre snap

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Speaker 4: motion in. Could you see a scenario tonight where Todd

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Speaker 4: Downing convinces Aaron Rodgers and says, look, we're too easy

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Speaker 4: to read, we're too predictable. We got to go more

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Speaker 4: pre snap motion. Do you think that's a possibility in

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Speaker 4: terms of some of the changes that Todd Downing might

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Speaker 8: There's a lot in that it's possible. Yeah, And if

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Speaker 8: you're taken over and you got free reign. I think

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Speaker 8: guess exactly what you do because everybody does it.

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Speaker 6: It's it works.

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Speaker 8: The problem is Aaron Rodgers got Mike McCarthy fired in

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Speaker 8: Green Bay, and when he left, everybody said, well, as

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Speaker 8: offense was elemental, he didn't change. He were running the

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Speaker 8: same plays over and over year after year. Maybe it

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Speaker 8: wasn't Mike McCarthy. Maybe it is Aaron Rodgers saying this

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Speaker 8: is what I like, this is what I trust, this

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Speaker 8: is what we're gonna do. So Todd Downing coming in there,

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Speaker 8: how much sway do you think he has over Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 8: You know, I mean that's a question. I don't think

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Speaker 8: he's got any so I don't know. I'm sure there

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Speaker 8: are people. There have probably been voices in the building

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Speaker 8: before this saying, hey, why do you know we should

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Speaker 8: move this guy and find out what this guy's gonna do,

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Speaker 8: And maybe Aaron has resisted it.

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Speaker 6: That's that was the I'm telling you.

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Speaker 8: Back when Mike McCarthy, the guy who won the Super

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Speaker 8: left because the offense didn't evolve, And now you're looking

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Speaker 8: at the exact same offense and it's getting criticized for

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Speaker 8: the same thing. And there ain't no Mike McCarthy to blame.

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Speaker 8: Now you're blaming Nate Hackett. Listen, that's not the common denominator.

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Speaker 8: Aaron is the common denominator. So you can say it

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Speaker 8: when you say it like the way I'm saying it

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Speaker 8: right now. It doesn't sound like.

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Speaker 6: No, it ain't changing.

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Speaker 8: He's been through two head coach, three head coaches now,

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Speaker 8: and three coordinators and they haven't changed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: This week's game at the Jets is presented by the

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Speaker 4: You know, we've talked about all this pressure Steve that's

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Speaker 4: on the Jets to perform tonight. What about what about

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Speaker 4: Joe Brady. I mean, this is a guy who called

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Speaker 4: a trick play maybe at the worst possible time in

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Speaker 4: Week four, swung the momentum back in favor of the

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Speaker 4: Ravens and they win the game going away, and then

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Speaker 4: last week end of the game decisions prevent the Bills

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Speaker 4: from getting to overtime in a Thai football game and

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Speaker 4: they ultimately lose it. What level of pressure is on

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Speaker 4: him tonight to craft a plan to help his quarterback

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Speaker 4: and the other ten guys on offense tonight.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, And so I don't know because of

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Speaker 8: the way Sean McDermott handled last week and said it

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Speaker 8: and all that, I don't I think he took some

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Speaker 8: of the pressure off Joe Brad, some of the attention

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Speaker 8: off Joe Brady. You know, two weeks ago he called

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Speaker 8: that trick play that you mentioned got blown up, and

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Speaker 8: he came in on Wednesday, remember he had and he

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Speaker 8: had to answer for He saydy, I wish I had

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Speaker 8: that one back and it was a bad call by me.

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Speaker 8: And then he comes out in two minutes left in

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Speaker 8: the game throws it three straight times. You know, Jo,

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Speaker 8: You know Sean mcdermot's not over there telling him to

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Speaker 8: do that, but he throws it three straight times, three

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Speaker 8: straight incompletions, you get the ball back. He'd give him

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Speaker 8: a chance to win the game in regulation with a

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Speaker 8: long kick, and they do. McDermott took the took all

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Speaker 8: the heat last week. And you know, for two weeks

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Speaker 8: and that one, the trick play, and then the decision

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Speaker 8: making of the play selection. And you and I know

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Speaker 8: that too, that the players are all involved in this too.

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Speaker 8: Those three passes inside of two minutes last week, there

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Speaker 8: was at least one or there was at least one

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Speaker 8: or two completions in that play call that Josh didn't

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Speaker 8: hit and it chose to yeah, chose not to take.

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Speaker 8: I mean, so you know Coleman on the sidelines. No,

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Speaker 8: it's an incompletion, and then he drops back his in

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Speaker 8: zone again, pump fake, and then he goes deep for

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Speaker 8: a very low percentage play to Hollands that's incomplete. And

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Speaker 8: then the third one, of course is also incompleteed. So

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Speaker 8: you know, the players are culpable in it too. You

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Speaker 8: got to you gotta you know. And he got hit

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Speaker 8: in the pocket by Dion Dawkins, you know, the left

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Speaker 8: tackles back and into him. Otherwise he might have completed

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Speaker 8: that to Samuel and then everything's different. But yeah, Joe

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Speaker 8: Brady's probably feeling a little bit of pressure inside his

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Speaker 8: own building to do a little bit better job this

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Speaker 8: week in play calling because of you know, two weeks

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Speaker 8: ago the trick playing then last week at the end

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Speaker 8: of the game. Yes, I think so, I'm here's the

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Speaker 8: thing though, too, this is they're still going to be

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Speaker 8: right in the thick of the division race because the

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Speaker 8: division has gone downhill so fast here in the first

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Speaker 8: five weeks of the season. If the Bills win this,

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Speaker 8: you can almost stick a fork in everybody else in

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Speaker 8: the division, right. That's why I think this is going

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Speaker 8: to be a really difficult game for the Bills to

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Speaker 8: win on the road in MetLife against a team that

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Speaker 8: is that has got a lot of talent, that has

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Speaker 8: loaded in a hostile environment which they have not played

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Speaker 8: well in yet this year. And I'm you know, and

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Speaker 8: the press and the pressure record wise, I mean, the

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Speaker 8: listen to the Bills. If they go three and three

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Speaker 8: are whatever, They're still going to be in a tie

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Speaker 8: for the division league losing a tie breaker. With twelve

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Speaker 8: games to play or eleven games to play, the Bills

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Speaker 8: are going to have plenty of room to dig out

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Speaker 8: So the pressure is all on the Jets for me tonight,

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Speaker 8: and I just and Joe Brady is probably the guy

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Speaker 8: in the building who feels the most pressure for the Bills.

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Speaker 4: It's a good question on the table for you are yeah.

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Speaker 9: Welcome to what is already an emotionally charged men Live

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Speaker 9: stadium here in East Brotherford, New Jersey, for what many

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Speaker 9: have labeled the game of the week as the Buffalo

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Speaker 9: Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 4: All Right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 4: Steve Jasker with you. And that was kind of the

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Speaker 4: scene last year. Week walked pretty crazy where there were

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Speaker 4: huge expectations for both teams and those expectations changed dramatically

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Speaker 4: for the Jets last year in Week one after four plays.

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Speaker 4: But Rogers is in the lineup tonight and in a

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Speaker 4: little hobbled has an ankle injury. Limit had been in

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Speaker 4: practice earlier this week and got the tar knocked out

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Speaker 4: of him last week against the Vikings, who were very

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Speaker 4: blitz heavy in their approach and were successful as Rogers

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Speaker 4: had his worst performance of the season, three interceptions, including

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Speaker 4: a pick six and a fifty four point nine passer rating. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that and some of the throws he made. The

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Speaker 8: first two interceptions were bad. I mean they looked bad,

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Speaker 8: bad decision, bad throw. They were they were putting him

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Speaker 8: under duress. He has to get rid of the ball

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Speaker 8: a little faster. That's the answer that the defensive coordinators

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Speaker 8: have come up with, and and that's in the Jets

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Speaker 8: haven't had enough answers. Yeah, the the van Ginkel picked

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Speaker 8: six was nothing but film study by the Vikings. Uh,

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Speaker 8: they forced the hot throw. They know where the hot

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Speaker 8: throws going. Van Ginkel drops back into the into the

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Speaker 8: lane and.

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Speaker 6: Just picks it off. That's knowing.

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Speaker 8: That's knowing what your offense, the offense is gonna do,

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Speaker 8: or having a good idea of it. Anyway, Rogers has

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Speaker 8: got to get rid of it because of the pressure

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Speaker 8: when he tries to you know where he's gonna go

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Speaker 8: with the football, or if you don't, you know he's

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Speaker 8: only got one or two options and you jump them.

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Speaker 8: That's what the Vikings did. It turned into a touchdown

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Speaker 8: the other way, and uh yeah that was And and

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Speaker 8: I'll say this too, Brian, We've talked about this and

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Speaker 8: we haven't gotten into it this too much. It brings

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Speaker 8: me to the point that, you know, this the passing

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Speaker 8: game for both these clubs. The Bills receivers have been

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Speaker 8: criticizing and people starting to look sideways at him like

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Speaker 8: there's not enough options there. They're not getting open, not

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Speaker 8: getting separation. I think it's a little bit overblown. You

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Speaker 8: and I have watched them all twenty two and I'm

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Speaker 8: you know, we can see guys there if Joshua hit him.

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Speaker 8: But the Jet corners last week got flagged a ton

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Speaker 8: for being grabby uh Sauce Gardener. They just We've talked

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Speaker 8: about this all week, all last week, and we're talking

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Speaker 8: about it today before the game. The Jet corners grab

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Speaker 8: and hold virtually every play. They get called a lot,

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Speaker 8: but they just count on the officials getting tired of

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Speaker 8: throwing the flag. They make the officials feel bad for

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Speaker 8: doing their job because they just do it. They just

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Speaker 8: hold every play they can. They really push the envelope

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Speaker 8: and they have, you know, more often than not. You know,

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Speaker 8: the officials do that. They kind of get tired of it.

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Speaker 8: And certainly in big plays and all of that, you

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Speaker 8: can't afford. You can't you know, allow the you can't

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Speaker 8: count on the official to do that. You got to

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Speaker 8: pick your spots, You got to get open, you got

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Speaker 8: to fight fight free of these corners.

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Speaker 6: And I think that's going to be a big issue tonight.

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Speaker 6: How handsy are.

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Speaker 8: They gonna let Sauce Gardener uh and be back there

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Speaker 8: in the secondary? Not only Sauce but the backup corner

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Speaker 8: DJ Reid, Who's going to be there, So one of

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Speaker 8: their corners is out and as we talked about earlier,

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Speaker 8: So what I think it's a real issue tonight.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, their nickel corners out, so Brandon Eckels will

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Speaker 4: be the nickel, but the true outside guys are healthy,

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Speaker 4: d J Reid, Sauce Gardner.

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Speaker 6: Michael Carter's out as a corner as well, So.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, he's their nickel.

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Speaker 8: So I'm I think that's another aspect of this, you know,

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Speaker 8: outside of the stars of the game, you know, and

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Speaker 8: Josh and and Aaron, you know, what happens in that

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Speaker 8: secondary and how they let those guys play is going

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Speaker 8: to be a huge key.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just to run it down, the Jets had eight

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Speaker 4: penalties called against them last week and the Vikings game.

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Speaker 4: Six were on defense. DJ Reid two pass interference calls,

656
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Speaker 4: Sauce Gardner, a defensive holding, an illegal contact, and a DPI.

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Speaker 4: And Jets defenders this season have been called for the

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Speaker 4: second most penalties and the third most passing penalties in

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Speaker 4: the league, and they are third most in defensive passing

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Speaker 4: penalty yards with one hundred and thirty four in five games.

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Speaker 4: Now here's the good news. Steve Adrian Hill is your

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Speaker 4: head referee tonight, and Adrian Hill's crew has thrown the

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Speaker 4: third most flags in the league this season, so let's

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Speaker 4: hope that continues for the sake of Buffalo's passing game. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: let's get to the phones at eighth three five point

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Speaker 4: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two, five fifty

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Speaker 4: the number to get on board to fill in the

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Speaker 4: blank for you today. For the Bills to get a

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Speaker 4: win on Monday Night football against the Jets, blank needs

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Speaker 4: to happen. We'll get to the phones here as we

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Speaker 4: got people waiting until Frank in Lackawana. What do you

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Speaker 4: got for us, Frank.

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Speaker 10: Yes, good afternoon, Steve, Good after noon, Brownie. Listen. I'm

674
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Speaker 10: a little concerned when Steve was talking about it's gonna

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Speaker 10: be a tough game. Enough with the negativity. These are

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Speaker 10: the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 10: I don't hear you saying anything about the when the

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Speaker 10: coaches make blunders. But we gotta make some plays tonight,

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Speaker 10: and I'm concerned, Brownie. Don't sit too close to him

681
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Speaker 10: because he's negative. He says all it's gonna be tough game.

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Speaker 10: It seems like he's setting up like we're gonna lose.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll just tell you this, Frank the Jets are

684
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Speaker 4: a good defense, number two in the league. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you think Baltimore has got a good defense where

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Speaker 4: Houston has a good defense, the Jets defense is even

687
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Speaker 4: better statistically speaking anyway. So we've seen the history in

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Speaker 4: this matchup. Steve's not just blowing smoke. There's legitimacy to

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Speaker 4: what he's saying. The first matchup against the Jets almost

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Speaker 4: every single year is a tough road to hoe. The

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Speaker 4: Jets have held each of their five opponents this season

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Speaker 4: below their average total yardage on offense, and they've held

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Speaker 4: four of them under their average point total. It's a

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Speaker 4: good defense. Look, there's a lot wrong with the Jets organization,

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Speaker 4: but they're the number two defense in football and they

696
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Speaker 4: make it hard on the Bills in the first meeting

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Speaker 4: every year. Why the second meeting doesn't go the same way,

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Speaker 4: I can't explain that. But the first meeting head to

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Speaker 4: head Jets Bills is usually difficult for Buffalo's offense, even

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Speaker 4: when Josh Allen has been at his best.

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Speaker 8: In previous years, they've lost the last two opening games

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Speaker 8: of this series. The last two years, they've lost the

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Speaker 8: opening game the first game of the two game series.

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Speaker 8: The Bills have the Jets seem to I don't know,

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Speaker 8: do that to them. Whatever, I'm not listen. I'm negative

706
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Speaker 8: is one thing, Wherry is one thing. I'm not negative,

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Speaker 8: but I do have some concerns about this. I think

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Speaker 8: the Bills can overcome. And so you've seen him and

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Speaker 8: I know people for you know, people are all over

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Speaker 8: the coaching staff for the way they hand the last

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Speaker 8: two minutes of last week. I never obviously people can't

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Speaker 8: understand why I never go down that road of bad

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Speaker 8: coaching decisions and you know, all the way back, I

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Speaker 8: don't go down that road ever, because I know it's

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Speaker 8: the guys on the field that have the ultimate say

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Speaker 8: in how that game, how any game ends. And like

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Speaker 8: you and I said, these last two minute, the two

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Speaker 8: minute play selection last week, in the last two minutes,

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Speaker 8: if you just execute the play that's called, you got it.

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Speaker 8: They got guys separated and Josh decides not to throw

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Speaker 8: them because he didn't see it was in the progre

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Speaker 8: whatever that that game was there to be won last

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Speaker 8: weekend and the players didn't do it. And you can

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Speaker 8: say what you want about Sean McDermott and not running

725
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Speaker 8: the ball three straight times to punt it away anyway,

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Speaker 8: I'm I'm not here for that. I put it on

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Speaker 8: the players. And if I sound concerned, it's because I

728
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Speaker 8: see really good players on the other side of the field,

729
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Speaker 8: and they're really well coached, and they're gonna play good,

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Speaker 8: just like those guys. Let me just tell you those

731
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Speaker 8: guys in New Jersey over in meant life tonight, the Jets,

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Speaker 8: they look across the field, they see a lot of

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Speaker 8: really good players who really well coached. Don't kid yourself.

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Speaker 8: They're looking at the team that won the division for

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Speaker 8: the last four years in a row, and they win

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Speaker 8: a playoff game, a playoff game every single year, So

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Speaker 8: not too many. There's no no other head coach other

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Speaker 8: than Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes can say that. Nobody

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Speaker 8: can say that. Only this team. Yeah, they're they're well coached,

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Speaker 8: and they got a lot of dudes over there that

741
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Speaker 8: can really play. So yeah, if I'm not saying Bills

742
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Speaker 8: by a billion today, it's because we're not playing Jacksonville.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, simple as that. Back to the phones and to

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Speaker 4: Sandy in Grand Island. What do you got for a Sandy?

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Speaker 11: How you got he's doing good?

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Speaker 4: Day?

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Speaker 10: I got you said?

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Speaker 11: Still on the blank. I'm gonna still on the blank.

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Speaker 11: We need and I've watched the games of all my buddies,

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Speaker 11: and why are we not running a five man defensive line?

751
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Speaker 11: And I talked about this last year and the answer

752
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Speaker 11: was that, well, then you're leaving too many guys open

753
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Speaker 11: there when you got Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, all these

754
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Speaker 11: great quarterbacks. Don't you agree with me on this that

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Speaker 11: when you put more pressure on him, they have to

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Speaker 11: alter the way that they're throwing. They gave Lamar Jacksons

757
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Speaker 11: so much time in that last game. I think we

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Speaker 11: should have won that game. We don't have five man

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Speaker 11: front ever, it's either four man sometimes in season three man,

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Speaker 11: but we need a five man front. You want to

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Speaker 11: win this game tonight, we put five guys on the

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Speaker 11: front line. You just said that it was blitz thirty

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Speaker 11: two percent of the time Aaron Rodgers, and he can't

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Speaker 11: play the way he perform the way he performs. Put

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Speaker 11: a five man front on there, and I promise that

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Speaker 11: Bills will win this game tonight. And that ain't going

767
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Speaker 11: to be by a little be by a lot. They're

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Speaker 11: going to do that to Josh Allen. I guarantee it,

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Speaker 11: they'll put five guys on the front line because they

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Speaker 11: know how good he is. I think they need to

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Speaker 11: switch that instead of worried about what's going on in

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Speaker 11: the out there in the field, worry about getting to

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Speaker 11: the good quarterbacks first. Make them adjust, make them change

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Speaker 11: their plan, and I think that we'll do a lot

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Speaker 11: better this game.

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Speaker 4: All right, all right, thanks for the call, Sandy, appreciate it. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, I think we'd all like to see

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Speaker 4: the Bills dictate play to the opponent, right, Steve, I

779
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Speaker 4: mean we haven't seen that the last two weeks. They've

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Speaker 4: played a little bit more reactionary than we're used to seeing.

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Speaker 4: But just in our defense after the loss to Baltimore,

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Speaker 4: Steve and I talked the Monday after that game specifically

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Speaker 4: about how the Bills defensively against a team like that,

784
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Speaker 4: which is an outlier, needs to do something unconventional themselves

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Speaker 4: on defense to counter that, and we actually brought up

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Speaker 4: the subject of a fifty front.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, because I think so.

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Speaker 8: I think you really have to exaggerate your defensive calls

789
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Speaker 8: when you play at an offense that's exaggeratedly run run team.

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Speaker 8: And I'll say this too, that the four man front,

791
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Speaker 8: five man front, don't don't think and I know this too.

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Speaker 8: You think of five man front, you put five defensive

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Speaker 8: linemen in or whatever, h five bigger bodies up front.

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Speaker 8: One of the reasons you don't do that is because

795
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Speaker 8: wherever those whichever those if you're gonna rush those five,

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Speaker 8: you know where they are. Here they come when the

797
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Speaker 8: ball snapped, you get those five. If you have four

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Speaker 8: and you're sending a fifth one with your three linebackers,

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Speaker 8: you don't know which one of those three linebackers is coming.

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Speaker 8: It gives you an extra extra level of deception for

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Speaker 8: the offensive line to soar through. They don't know which

802
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Speaker 8: of those three guys behind the line of scrimmage is

803
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Speaker 8: gonna come on the pass pro So you get a

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Speaker 8: chance there to get a guy running free with less

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Speaker 8: effort unless spending one less guy. So I think, well, yeah, Brown,

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Speaker 8: and I did well. I don't have a problem going

807
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Speaker 8: with a five man front and doing anything it takes

808
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 8: to stop a team like that. But I think you

809
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Speaker 8: don't have to change your spots either to get five

810
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Speaker 8: man pressure. I don't have a problem sending five man

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Speaker 8: pressure a lot tonight to get pressure on Aaron Rodgers.

812
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Speaker 8: But you don't have to change who you are. Just

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Speaker 8: use your five man pressure packages out of a four

814
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Speaker 8: man front, and yeah, and do it that way. And

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Speaker 8: this is this team is not the Ravens, so I

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Speaker 8: don't you don't need the same.

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Speaker 4: Believe it or not, they're the worst rushing team in football. Yeah,

818
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Speaker 4: So I don't know that the urgency to play a

819
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Speaker 4: five man front all night is the way to go. Sandy.

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Speaker 4: I respect what you're saying, but I think it's gonna

821
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Speaker 4: have to be of a mix and match variety. And

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Speaker 4: to Steve's point, use your five man pressure package through

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Speaker 4: the course of the evening and pick your spots. That's

824
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Speaker 4: probably the best way to go. We got to take

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Speaker 4: a break here. We're up against the clock, but we'll

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Speaker 4: continue to take your phone calls when we return. Here

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Speaker 4: on a Buffalo Football preview Monday. Here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 4: presented by Collide Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. This week's

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Speaker 4: Get back in the game, and it's pretty obvious tonight

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Speaker 4: it's the Bills receivers against the Jets secondary. Steve and

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Speaker 4: I already kind of laid out how clutching and grabbing

834
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Speaker 4: has become the new technique of the Jets' secondary. They've

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Speaker 4: kind of taken a page out of the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 4: book where they will dare officials to throw flags on

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Speaker 4: just about every play, knowing more often than not they won't.

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Speaker 4: So that is probably going to be employed again tonight

839
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Speaker 4: and Buffalo's receivers, along with Joe Brady, Steve, He's got

840
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Speaker 4: to kind of scheme some things to help facilitate separation,

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Speaker 4: whether it's stacks at the line of scrimmage or burst motion,

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00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: orbit motion, putting the receiver in the backfield to already

843
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 4: have built in separation, something to help these guys present

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Speaker 4: themselves early in the downs so Josh can get rid

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Speaker 4: of the football.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 8: I think the shifts and motions could be a bigger

848
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 8: part of the game plan. Although on the road we've

849
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Speaker 8: talked about it, it's hard to do that because of

850
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Speaker 8: the crowd noise. They just can't hear the communication you

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00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 8: need to hear to get in motion and shift and set,

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00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 8: and you get a lot of illegal procedures, illegal shift penalties.

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Speaker 8: You're right, though, the Jets secondary is going to try

854
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 8: and manhandle the Bills receivers. And I think I think

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Speaker 8: Shakir is the key component in this whole thing. I

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00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 8: think things changed drastically. If he can't play tonight, he's questionable,

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00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 8: they'll work him out before the game, but his ability

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Speaker 8: to get separation and run after the catch is huge

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Speaker 8: because when Shakir is out there doing his thing, kin

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Speaker 8: Kaid has a better has a better night as well.

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Speaker 8: People have been complaining about Kinkaid not getting involved enough.

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00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 8: One of the reasons is when this season started, and

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00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 8: let's remember we're only five games in. When this season started,

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Speaker 8: Kinkaid out of the gate, was the guy that teams

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Speaker 8: were doubling and tripling right out of the gate. Arizona

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Speaker 8: did it, Miami did it. Kinkaid was the focus of

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00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 8: the defensive secondary. Shakiir changed that, changes that a little bit.

868
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 8: And if Shakier's not there, you can bet Kinkaid's going

869
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 8: to be under wraps again. But if if Shakiir is there,

870
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 8: king Kaid's gonna have a chance to get a better

871
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 8: night going, particularly with Cook being questionable. So I think

872
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 8: Shakira is the key components of the component to this

873
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 8: matchup between the Jets secondary and the Bills wide receivers.

874
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 8: If Shakir cannot go, it's going to fall to you know,

875
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 8: Samuel and Coleman to really really step up and be

876
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 8: the engine drives this offense.

877
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: When Khalil Shakir is on the field, Josh Allen's completion

878
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 4: percentage is seventy point five percent. When he is not

879
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 4: on the field, Josh Allen's completion percentage is forty five

880
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: point three percent. That's all you need to say. That's

881
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: all you need to say to underline what Steve was

882
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 4: talking about there. It is a dramatic difference. And granted

883
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 4: it's a small sample because Shakir has missed one game

884
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 4: and some other snaps through the course of the season,

885
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 4: but that is a stark contrast and kind of illustrates

886
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 4: how essential he is to the functionality of Buffalo's passing

887
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 4: game going forward. Let's get back to the phones because

888
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 4: that is Collision course brought to you by Gabe's Collision,

889
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 4: and we go to Jerry on a sale. What do

890
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 4: you got for us?

891
00:48:53,480 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 12: Jerry, Hi, guys, thanks for the time. Just as far

892
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 12: as the offense goes, we need kincaid and knocks underneath

893
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 12: a lot more, and we'll leave the offense there. What

894
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 12: I really want to concentrate on is the defense. Remember

895
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 12: how the K gun was so innovative and it was

896
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 12: a new thing. Well, how about making the defense. Have

897
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 12: the defense create a system where you blitz maybe two

898
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 12: three times on every series that you have the ball.

899
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 12: They had the ball, Just keep blitzing, keep blitzing, and

900
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 12: this will be a brand new way of playing defense.

901
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 12: You'd have guys, you'd still have four guys in the

902
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 12: back covering if anybody breaks free for a pass, but

903
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 12: you got to keep blitzing, blitzing, blitzing. Now you might

904
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 12: say they might run out of a steam. You know,

905
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 12: I might get tired. Back in the seventies, there was

906
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 12: a girls' basketball team at Redwood City, Colorado, and they

907
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 12: came up with a new system. They were average players,

908
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 12: they weren't very good at all, but their coach told

909
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 12: them to do the full court press every time they

910
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:30,479
Speaker 12: were every minute of the game, they had to full

911
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 12: court press, and they ended up winning games with average talent.

912
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 12: And then bring that.

913
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: I respect what you're saying Jerry, and unfortunately I got

914
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 4: to cut you loose because we're up against the break here.

915
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 4: First and foremost basketball is not football. You have twice

916
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 4: as many players on the field. That's number one. Number two.

917
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: Blitzing all the time was invented back in nineteen eighty

918
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: five by Buddy Ryan in the forty six defense, and

919
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 4: Offen has eventually found out a solution for that. And

920
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 4: that's why nobody runs the forty six defense anymore. Because

921
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 4: there are answers now that have been schemed up by

922
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 4: offensive coordinators around the league. It's easy to say it's

923
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 4: not easy to execute this day and age in the NFL.

924
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 4: Like you can't just say we're gonna play a fifty

925
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 4: front the whole game, we're gonna win. The NFL is

926
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 4: too complex, and offensive coordinators are too smart in this

927
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 4: day and age in the NFL to do one thing

928
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 4: new and expect it to work for a sixty minute

929
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 4: football game. It just doesn't happen. Steve, that's right.

930
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 8: If there was one thing that worked against everything, you'd

931
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 8: never run anything else. That's why you do all this

932
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 8: other stuff. There is no magic elixir in the NFL.

933
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 8: There's answers to every defense, and there's answers to every offense.

934
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 8: If you keep doing it over and over, you're gonna

935
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 8: get beat. Predictability is the is the death knell for

936
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 8: any offense or defense.

937
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 4: We've got to take a break here. We're up against

938
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 4: the clock. But when we begin our number two, we're

939
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 4: gonna do it with my broadcast partner, Eric Wood, as

940
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: he chimes in on his outlook for tonight's Monday night

941
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 4: match up between the Bills and Jets. Eric Wood joining

942
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 4: us next here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

943
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 4: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

944
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,959
Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

945
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 4: All right, welcome to our number two here on a

946
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 4: Buffalo Football Monday preview edition as we get ready for

947
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 4: Bills and Jets. And joining us on the line right

948
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 4: now is my broadcast partner on the Bills Radio Network.

949
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 4: Will be on the call with me tonight. It is

950
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: Eric Wood joining us, and Eric, I do have to

951
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 4: say right out of the shoot here, we're gonna talk

952
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 4: about this tonight on the pregame run up to kickoff.

953
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 4: You've been through your share of coaching changes in your

954
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 4: playing career, and we already laid out the stats since

955
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 4: twenty ten, teams that play in their first game after

956
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 4: a mid season coaching change are sixteen and thirteen. So

957
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 4: it's not nothing the interim head coach bump. But can

958
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 4: you just speak to I guess how on notice everyone

959
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 4: in the building is in the day's immediately after a

960
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 4: decision like this.

961
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a big deal and it doesn't happen a

962
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 5: ton in the NFL, But it happened to me twice

963
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 5: while I was in the NFL, including my rookie year,

964
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 5: And in both of those instances, Dick Dron and Rex

965
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 5: Ryan were both fired midyear. We had it was likely

966
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 5: a coaching candidate that they wanted to be able to

967
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 5: see if they could run the organization. Perry Fuel and

968
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 5: Anthony Lynn. Okay, if there's a change in leadership, does

969
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 5: our energy increase, does our output on the field increase?

970
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 5: Is there going to be a touch of a different

971
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 5: schematic approach to this that's going to give us more

972
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 5: of an advantage. But in both those instances, we were

973
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 5: virtually eliminated from the playoffs. It wasn't a hey, let's

974
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 5: make it a run at a super Bowl with these changes.

975
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 5: It's a let's see if we can experiment with something

976
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 5: that we could possibly use next year to try and

977
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 5: blake this playoff drought. We are playing within Okay, well,

978
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 5: different situation here in New York. They're trying to make

979
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 5: a change after five games to not waste one of

980
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers' remaining seasons. So the question was how alert

981
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 5: is that everybody? Everyone's very alert, And you know, when

982
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 5: there's a coaching change. For every guy like Aaron Rodger

983
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 5: that's a lock Hall of Famer. There are so many

984
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 5: guys on the roster that are just fighting for their

985
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 5: job week in and week out. When the head coaches acts,

986
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 5: a lot of times it's hey, I had a relationship

987
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 5: with him prior at a different spot or someone on

988
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 5: his staff. Okay, I need to put out some really

989
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 5: good film if I'm looking to keep my job in

990
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 5: this league. And you know, it's human nature that Okay,

991
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 5: the head coach is fired, it's got to be someone's fault.

992
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 5: Let's let's make sure everyone knows it's his fault, because

993
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 5: if we go out and play really well this week,

994
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 5: it's it's going to go back on him.

995
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 8: One of the things about it as well, you see

996
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 8: sixteen and thirteen. Over the last stretch of seasons, it

997
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 8: almost it's almost it's close to five hundred so and

998
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 8: and if the sixteen to thirteen you could almost chalk

999
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 8: it up there. There was probably only two or three

1000
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 8: times for a team when the team really did say, Wow,

1001
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 8: I'm glad that guy's gone. It doesn't happen that much.

1002
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 8: The guy brings these guys in, they work closely together.

1003
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 8: Usually there's a level of respect and almost an affection

1004
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 8: for the head coach and their players. They understand how

1005
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 8: much the head coaches pour into it. So when you

1006
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 8: look at it in that light, it's kind of a

1007
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 8: fifty to fifty thing. These teams are going to kind

1008
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 8: of stay who they are going forward, and you know whether,

1009
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 8: and I don't know what to say about these how

1010
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 8: it's going to go in New York because the expectations

1011
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 8: are not let's just get a good draft pick and

1012
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,959
Speaker 8: see if somebody can run the organization. It is get

1013
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 8: to the playoffs, win now, as per the owner. So

1014
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 8: this is a little bit and I said it earlier

1015
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 8: in the show, it's a little bit of a funky

1016
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 8: dynamic in New York with this head coaching change.

1017
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 5: It is and and to your point, I mean, generally,

1018
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 5: these are organizations that are coming in with a really

1019
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 5: poor record, so to have a just over fifty percent

1020
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 5: win percentage, you are seeing that one game bump, and

1021
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 5: you know, I just think back to a couple of

1022
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 5: years ago when the Indianapolis Colts and absolutely stunk. Sorry

1023
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 5: that you're taking the tip of that die. Doctor Pepper

1024
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 5: distracted me, Steve. I thought you were grabbing a blue light.

1025
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 5: And I don't know if it was the hockey jersey

1026
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,959
Speaker 5: that got me. That just completely threw me off.

1027
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 6: But yeah, you know it's blue light in a doctor

1028
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 6: Pepper can that I don't know.

1029
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was the hockey jersey that got me.

1030
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 5: But anyways, so I think back to Jeff Saturday. Those

1031
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 5: guys were having fun out there for the first time.

1032
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 5: You know, then it looked like all seasons. So you know,

1033
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 5: it's that's not going to be the situation here tonight

1034
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 5: when you have a two and three football team that's

1035
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 5: coming in to met Life Stadium to night saying, look,

1036
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 5: if we can win this game, we're sitting at three

1037
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 5: and three, first place in the AFC East, owning the

1038
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 5: tirebreaker right now, against the Bills. We have a lot

1039
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 5: of hope for this season. Now you promote Jeff Ulbrick

1040
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 5: to head coach. Okay, now he becomes defensive play caller

1041
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 5: and head coach. That's a lot of responsibility. You strip

1042
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 5: Nate Hackett away from his play calling duties and you

1043
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 5: have Todd Downing stepping in to take over play calling duties,

1044
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 5: or maybe it's just Aaron Rodgers. We don't know that

1045
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 5: at this point. All that being said is this is

1046
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 5: a different situation where it's not a hopeless end of

1047
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 5: the season move, and it also comes with both coordinators

1048
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 5: taking on either less responsibility in Nate Hackett and someone

1049
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 5: else being promoted, so Todd Downey taking on more responsibility,

1050
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 5: and then on the other side of the ball, Jump

1051
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 5: Bolberg's gonna have a lot on his play here tonight

1052
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 5: for the first time. He's never worn that head coaching

1053
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 5: headset before.

1054
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 4: All Right, So let's take that a step further, Eric,

1055
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 4: because you obviously know Todd Downing. He was on the

1056
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: Bill's staff when you were playing. He was quarterbacks coach

1057
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 4: in Buffalo. I guess my question is this because I

1058
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 4: don't know how intimately you know how he functions with

1059
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 4: his players. But I think it's safe to say that

1060
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, since he's arrived in New York, has been

1061
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 4: coddled and catered to to the umpteenth degree. Is Todd

1062
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 4: Downing capable of sizing change within the scope of the

1063
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 4: Jets offense to make it function better and not need

1064
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 4: the approval of the quarterback who has gotten everything he

1065
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 4: has wished for. And I guess what I'm getting at here, specifically,

1066
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 4: is more pre snap motion in the Jets offense, which

1067
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 4: is sorely absent because Aaron Rodgers doesn't want it.

1068
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm not sure I would assume that, Okay,

1069
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 5: we're making a switch with the offensive play calling. We're

1070
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 5: gonna do some things differently. Jay Glazer reported yesterday that

1071
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 5: Ulbrook wants a more physical, heavy run game approach, which,

1072
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 5: you know, we'll see how that shakes out. You know,

1073
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 5: if that's gonna make the offense successful, that's gonna make

1074
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers look good. I'm sure he'd be along for it.

1075
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 5: They have two really talented backs. The problem is pre

1076
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 5: saw in the last few games his average yarde per

1077
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 5: contact is negative. He's getting hit behind the land of

1078
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 5: scrimmage on average, So you could say, Okay, we want

1079
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 5: to go this heavy run game, that's gonna be the

1080
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 5: strength of our offense. Well, that hasn't worked out very

1081
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 5: well for them. Braylen Allen their younger back, he's he's

1082
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 5: probably produced better than Breis Hall this year, and whether

1083
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 5: that's just his size and the amount of contact they're

1084
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 5: having at the line of scrimmage. If they don't get

1085
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 5: their offensive line fixed, just in the run game and

1086
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 5: the pass game, it's gonna be an issue no matter

1087
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 5: what philosophy you're choosing to go with offensively. But you know,

1088
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 5: you make a switch at play caller on offense, I

1089
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 5: expect to see some different things, whether that's pre stat motion,

1090
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 5: whether that's you know, different personnel groupings, formations. Something's gonna change.

1091
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 5: But we talked about this last year when Ken Dorsey

1092
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 5: was fired and they promoted Joe Brady. It's got to

1093
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 5: be the same terminology. It's a lot of the same

1094
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 5: plays that were time tested through training camp. It's you know,

1095
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 5: when you call him and maybe some certain tweaks game

1096
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 5: plan specific each week.

1097
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 8: And you tell me Eric, your former center you played

1098
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 8: for a decade, what how big a change can they

1099
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 8: make up front? I mean certainly, you know they get

1100
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 8: Morgan Moses back in the lineup and right tackle. Okay,

1101
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 8: you got one guy that switched in and out.

1102
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Speaker 6: But you know.

1103
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 8: What, how much of a change can they make when

1104
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 8: guys are getting whacked in the backfield on a run game.

1105
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,479
Speaker 8: I mean it's going to be mostly the same five

1106
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 8: guys that started the season.

1107
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 6: They have struggled.

1108
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 8: What schematically can they change to make that big a

1109
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 8: difference for a team that can't run the ball at all.

1110
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're not playing with a fullback much. Maybe

1111
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 5: that could help with some of the penetration because I

1112
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 5: see you know, different film breakdowns on them where they're

1113
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 5: just not getting off a double teams and a Terrell

1114
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 5: Bernard type weinbacker just shoots the gap and he makes

1115
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 5: a play for a three yard loss. That happened multiple

1116
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 5: times in their last game against Minnesota, And so could

1117
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 5: a fullback out there, sure, But if that's not you know,

1118
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 5: tried and true plays that you've worked on since training camp.

1119
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 5: We talked about this so many times on the show

1120
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 5: over the years. Yeah, when you've practiced something since training camp,

1121
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 5: you know those are gonna be your bread and butter

1122
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 5: plays throughout the season. You can add, you know, little

1123
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 5: nuances here and there, but just to throw stuff out

1124
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 5: the wall in a week to week basic It's just

1125
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 5: it's hard to say that's gonna work out real well

1126
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 5: for you in the NFL. You know, it could be

1127
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 5: some heavier personnel groupings to go along with the Jay

1128
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 5: Glazer quote from yesterday. Maybe more twelve personnel. Maybe they

1129
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 5: try and ground and pound on this Bills defense that

1130
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 5: really loves to stay in their nickel personnel defense. But

1131
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 5: we'll see tonight, and it's gonna be interesting to see

1132
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 5: how this plays out, especially offensively for them. We know

1133
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 5: what their defense is gonna look like in New York obviously,

1134
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 5: because they keep the same defensive coordinator.

1135
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 4: Right, and I don't know that they can employ a fullback.

1136
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 4: They don't have one on the roster, and all their

1137
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 4: tight ends, all their tight ends are too tall, they're

1138
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 4: like six five and up. So I think your your

1139
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 4: call on more twelve personnel is probably spot on in

1140
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 4: terms of bringing more power to their run game and

1141
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 4: more help up front. Let's flip it to that Jets

1142
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 4: defense because a name that Bills fans may not be

1143
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,919
Speaker 4: wholly familiar with, has been a terror off the edge

1144
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 4: for them. Jermaine Johnson's on ir their former first round pick,

1145
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 4: and we know that at least right now, Hassan Redick

1146
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 4: does not have a new contract with the Jets, although

1147
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 4: he has new agent representation, you know in Drew Rosenhaus,

1148
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 4: who's supposedly going to be at the game tonight talking

1149
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 4: turkey with Joe Douglas. But that being said, Will McDonald

1150
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 4: quietly leads the AFC in sacks and has been an

1151
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 4: absolute terror off the edge for them. What should Bills

1152
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 4: fans expect to see from him tonight?

1153
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 5: So I went back, he's had some extra time at

1154
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 5: the hotel this morning, not anticipating this question. Ne'ss oither

1155
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 5: for you, maybe just more roundtable discussion. But I went

1156
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 5: back and looked at all of his sacks from this year,

1157
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 5: and when I looked at all of his sacks, it

1158
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 5: wasn't many times where he's physically dominating a tackle. What

1159
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 5: he does bring to the table is a high amount

1160
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 5: of energy, and he has speed and quickness. So he

1161
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 5: had a sack against the Patriots on a play action rollout. So, okay,

1162
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 5: if I'm running play action and I'm gonna roll Josh

1163
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 5: out of the pocket. We better have a hand on

1164
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 5: him because he's not gonna fly down the line of

1165
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 5: scrimmage and try and play the run. He's likely going

1166
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 5: to be lined towards the quarterback. To try and boost

1167
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 5: those sack numbers, I will say this, you have six

1168
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 5: sacks through five games. You're doing something right out there

1169
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 5: on the edge. He's just not a physically intimidating presence

1170
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 5: out there as far as size and stature and strength

1171
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 5: ability to go through you. What he does really well

1172
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 5: is he hustles and he's flying around at all times.

1173
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 5: So when they do get some interior pressure, he's there

1174
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 5: to pick up a sack.

1175
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's long and wiry, and he got a sack

1176
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 4: on Sam Darnald the same exact way. They have Donald

1177
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 4: booting out to the right and he runs him down

1178
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 4: out in the flat, and he's long, kind of like Rousseau.

1179
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 4: Maybe not as long as Greg, but he's long that way.

1180
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 4: And this pressure rate of twenty one point six percent

1181
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 4: leads the league. And he has twenty two quarterback pressures

1182
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 4: to go along with those six sacks in five games.

1183
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 4: It's impressive numbers so far. Go ahead, Steve.

1184
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 8: One of the things about we heard now lately that

1185
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 8: this is going to be a beautiful night in met life,

1186
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 8: I mean weatherwise, But now we're getting notifications that people

1187
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 8: who are tailgating there have to batten down the hatches

1188
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 8: because they're getting incredibly strong wind gus. They're blowing you know,

1189
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 8: pop ups all over the place, you know, so people

1190
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 8: have to batten down the hatches. But it's supposed to

1191
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 8: be a beautiful night in New Jersey for this game.

1192
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 6: Is that still the call?

1193
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think so. I took a walk a little

1194
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 5: bit earlier passing some time, and it was it was

1195
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 5: beautiful out here today. I don't assume it'd be that

1196
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 5: much worse tonight. And then kind of similar to the

1197
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 5: New Bill Stadium, more of a bowl structure with steeper

1198
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 5: wall are steeper exterior on it to where it's not

1199
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 5: the win generally doesn't play as much of a factor

1200
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 5: there because all ends of the stadium are fairly walled off.

1201
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 5: You obviously have the opening at the top, so that's

1202
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 5: where maybe the kicking game can be more effected than

1203
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 5: the passing game. Just my experience playing there, we've never

1204
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 5: had big wind issues there. So hopefully that doesn't play

1205
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 5: a factor tonight, because when you look at you know,

1206
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 5: the way these two offenses are playing, you would you

1207
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 5: would you would think the Bills would have the advantage

1208
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 5: if you're able to air it out. But that being

1209
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 5: the case, and we may get to this, the Bills

1210
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 5: offense has some issues of their own to get to

1211
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 5: and to overcome. And I would expect to see a

1212
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 5: similar game plan as the last two game plans with

1213
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 5: the Ravens and the Texans both saying, look, we're gonna

1214
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 5: line up in Mando man defense against you, whether Josh

1215
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 5: is nicked up or whatever the case, they're hemming him

1216
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 5: in the pocket. Better. He's not taking off and running

1217
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 5: and just stealing those big chunk plays against Manda Man

1218
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 5: defense like we've seen from him in the past. We

1219
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 5: haven't shown the ability to separate. And it definitely not

1220
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 5: you know, take the top off the defense or creates

1221
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 5: the big plays minus the one played a Keon Coleman

1222
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 5: on fourth down last week. And so yeah, you'd love

1223
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 5: to have the weather not effect of Bill's pass the game.

1224
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 5: That's trying to get back on track, all.

1225
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 4: Right, And so with that in mind, let's talk about

1226
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 4: who's responsible here, because we know that the Jets have

1227
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 4: taken a page out of the Ravens playbook in terms

1228
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 4: of how to play defense, clutching and grabbing on almost

1229
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 4: every play. Jets defenders have been called for the second

1230
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 4: most defensive penalties this season so far, and they got

1231
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 4: flagged for six last week on defense alone in the

1232
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 4: game against the Vikings. Knowing that they may play man

1233
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 4: defense and take that clutch and grab approach, is it

1234
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 4: on the receivers to embellish and go European soccer? Oh

1235
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 4: my god, I've been shot to draw flags? Or does

1236
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 4: Joe Brady have to take the approach of I got

1237
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 4: to find a way to scheme these guys open, whether

1238
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 4: it's stack at the line or something else.

1239
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you'd love to say sell the penalty, but

1240
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 5: you still might not get it. And so that being

1241
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 5: the case, Okay, it's having guys in motions. It might

1242
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 5: be stacks, it's different types of rubs. It's all those

1243
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 5: man beaters we talk about each and every week. And

1244
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 5: then hopefully Josh you know, at times, can just punish

1245
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 5: it with his legs, which you know that just really

1246
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 5: takes the life out of it. But It's amazed me

1247
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 5: that the Bills have faced, especially after I thought they

1248
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 5: put Manda man defense back to bed against the Jaguars

1249
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 5: in Week three. They've now faced the highest percentage of

1250
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 5: Manda man defense in the NFL, which it used to

1251
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 5: be almost opposite because everyone said, we can't play Manda

1252
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 5: man defense against Josh Allen because if he breaks the pocket,

1253
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 5: he takes forty yards. We always used to say, if

1254
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 5: you can get over four hundred yards on offense in

1255
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 5: a game, that's a good offensive output, a great offensive

1256
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 5: output when you look at league averages, Well, Josh can

1257
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 5: take ten percent of that just on one play by

1258
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 5: breaking the pocket. And also you can get those deep

1259
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 5: crossers and all the things we saw the Bills do

1260
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 5: against the Jags. And so you know these guys, you know,

1261
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 5: not having Khalil Shakir last week and then him also

1262
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 5: being dinged up with the ankle fairly early in that

1263
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 5: Ravens game. I think those things, you know, hurt this

1264
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 5: passing game is he just appears to be our number

1265
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 5: one receiving threat. Hopefully we get him back tonight. And

1266
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 5: then when I look at this offense and you sit

1267
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 5: here and say, look, they have a top five scoring

1268
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 5: offense in the NFL, one of the top percentage in

1269
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 5: the league of drives that ended a touchdown. But then

1270
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 5: you look at their third down efficiency and you're like, man,

1271
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 5: if they could just solve that, this can get back

1272
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 5: to a prolific offense. And so when you look at that,

1273
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 5: it's okay. Obviously we have to separate, you know, against

1274
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 5: man coverage and obvious pass situations, but got to be

1275
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 5: better on first and second down as well, and Josh

1276
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 5: has got to steal a few first downs with his

1277
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 5: legs if teams are going to continue to play man

1278
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 5: to man defense against them. One of the reasons the

1279
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 5: Bills still are sitting there top five and scoring despite

1280
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 5: being you know, bottom fourth in the league and third

1281
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 5: down con version is the fact that they've gone seven

1282
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 5: for seven on fourth down this year. The defense has

1283
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 5: forced ten turnover on downs and non takeaways on the season,

1284
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 5: and we've only given it up twice.

1285
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 6: So I'll give you a chance. Last one for me, Eric,

1286
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 6: last one.

1287
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 8: We put this out to our viewers and it said

1288
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 8: for the Bills to get a win on Monday Night

1289
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Speaker 8: Football versus the Jets, blank needs to happen.

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Speaker 6: How would you fill in the blank.

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Speaker 5: Beat man coverage because they're gonna see it again tonight.

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Speaker 5: I think this defense will do fine against this Jets offense.

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01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying this is beat man coverage. And

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01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 5: let's go after Sasgard or DJ Reid the whole night

1295
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 5: because those two are or maybe the best corner tandem,

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Speaker 5: one of the best corner tandems in the entire NFL.

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Speaker 5: It's can we get Kinkaid going, Knox going? Can we

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Speaker 5: see some manned beaters over the middle? Okay, now we

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Speaker 5: have size advantage somewhere else? Can we take advantage of

1300
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 5: a key on Coleman against a safety? However that looks

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Speaker 5: the Bills got approved tonight. They can beat man to

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Speaker 5: man defense or else. It's simply going to be. This

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01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 5: is the blueprint each and every week to affect the

1304
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 5: Bills offense.

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Speaker 4: Eric, thanks for the time. I'll catch up with you

1306
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Speaker 4: a little bit later tonight on the Bills Radio Network.

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01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 5: All right, sounds good, looking forward to it.

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Speaker 6: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: All right, that's Eric Wood joining us here on One

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Speaker 4: Bill's Live. We go from one Eric to another as

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01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 4: we take a break. Just had Eric Wood coming up

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Speaker 4: next to New York Jets Vice president of news Strategy,

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Speaker 4: Eric Allen, will join us to talk about the Jets

1314
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Speaker 4: side of the ledger when we return here on One

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Speaker 4: Bill's Live. Stay with us. All right, welcome back to

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Speaker 4: One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here

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Speaker 4: on a Buffalo Football Monday preview edition as we get

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Speaker 4: set for Monday night football Bills Jets here in week

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Speaker 4: six and please to be joined now by New York

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Speaker 4: Jets Vice president resident of News Strategy, Eric Allen, joining

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Speaker 4: us on the line here, and Eric, I guess we

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01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 4: got to begin here because you know you're tapped into

1323
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 4: this certainly more than we are. A tumultuous week for

1324
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 4: the Jets with a head coaching change, an offensive play

1325
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 4: caller change. How would you describe the vibe in the

1326
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 4: locker room because changes like this obviously put everyone on notice.

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01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 4: Are what was the feedback you were getting just being

1328
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 4: around this team in the locker room this week?

1329
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 13: Well, gentlemen, great being with you as always third in

1330
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 13: season head coaching change in franchise history, so this does

1331
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 13: not happen every day. You got to go back fifty

1332
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,480
Speaker 13: years the last time this has happened for this franchise.

1333
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 13: I think in one respect, the players felt like they

1334
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 13: let Robert Salad down. On the other side of the coin,

1335
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 13: Brownie and Steve, I think that the guys are very

1336
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 13: much excited about the opportunity in front of them with

1337
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 13: Jeff Albrick being the head coach. But the bottom line

1338
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 13: is Woody Johnson made this decision because he thought this

1339
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 13: team was one of the most talented rosters he's had

1340
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 13: in twenty five years as being owner here of the

1341
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 13: New York Jets, and Jeff Albricks said in his introductory

1342
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 13: news conference, this team has been underperforming, So I think

1343
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 13: there was a lot of shock in the locker room,

1344
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 13: and Robert Style had a lot of support in the

1345
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 13: locker room.

1346
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Speaker 14: But with that being said, so does Jeff Albrick.

1347
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 6: How much pressure is on the Jets tonight.

1348
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Speaker 14: Steve, I think there's a lot of pressure on the Jets.

1349
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 13: You're talking about a team that enters this game on

1350
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 13: a two game losing streak, much like the Buffalo Bills.

1351
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 13: But on the other end of the coin, you would

1352
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 13: say that a great opportunity as well, because the Jets,

1353
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 13: even though that they have lost the last two games,

1354
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 13: they have an opportunity to put themselves a top the

1355
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 13: fast with the Bills, So you could be three and

1356
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 13: three right there. With the two to zero record inside

1357
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 13: the division, you know, the Jets easily could be four

1358
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 13: and one, but that's life in the National Football League,

1359
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 13: right They're held to three field goals against the Denver Broncos,

1360
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 13: commit thirteen penalties in that game. Then they go over

1361
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 13: to London and Aaron Rodgers had a game where this

1362
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 13: is atypical. You're talking about three interceptions to pick six,

1363
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 13: you're down seventeen points, and then with all that being said,

1364
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 13: ball is at the end of the game. The Jets

1365
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 13: have the ball, have opportunity to win it. So you

1366
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 13: know there is pressure, but I do think that the

1367
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 13: Jets know that, hey, we're not far away here.

1368
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 4: Let's look at the offensive operation here. You've got a

1369
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 4: new play caller in Todd Downing, who the Bills know well.

1370
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 4: He was a quarterbacks coach for them back in the

1371
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 4: day before he went on to the Raiders in Tennessee,

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01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 4: where he called plays as an offensive coordinator, So this

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01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,560
Speaker 4: is not new for him in terms of job responsibility.

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Speaker 4: But how much change should we expect? Obviously there are

1375
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 4: things they want to change for the better on the

1376
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 4: offensive side of the ball. But how much can he change,

1377
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 4: either game plan wise or schematically in a week's time

1378
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:12,839
Speaker 4: to get better results.

1379
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Speaker 13: All right, So the biggest surprise for me as far

1380
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 13: as this Jets team through five games is the run game.

1381
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 13: Last year, thirteen different offensive line combinations, instability at quarterback,

1382
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 13: and the Jets were still in the top half of

1383
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 13: the league and rushing right now. And I know you

1384
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 13: guys been talking about this all week that you're looking

1385
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 13: at the Jets who are thirty second in the NFL

1386
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 13: and rushing, and then conversely, you look at the Bills

1387
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 13: defense and say, Okay, you know they've struggled at times,

1388
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 13: they've been gassed at times. Their thirty second in terms

1389
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 13: of yards per rush defensively. I think all bricks influence here,

1390
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 13: guys is that, Okay, we got a new play caller

1391
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 13: and downing, we have to find a way to rush

1392
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Speaker 13: the football. Last week against the Minnesota Vikings, drop back

1393
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 13: numbers versus the rush at Thomps we're just out of

1394
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 13: whack for the Jets. Now, some of that is because

1395
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 13: you fall behind by three scores there early in the game,

1396
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 13: but the Jets need more balance and then when you

1397
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 13: talk about the offensive backfield, you got Breise Hall back

1398
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 13: there in Braylen Allen who was an impressive.

1399
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Speaker 14: Rookie as well.

1400
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Speaker 13: So for the New York Jets, they need to find

1401
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 13: a way to rush the football. And that doesn't mean

1402
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 13: you can't come out throwing. You can come out throwing

1403
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 13: to set up the run. But they got too much talent.

1404
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 13: And again I talk about the thirteen offensive line combinations

1405
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 13: last year, the Jets have only had one change up

1406
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 13: front there along the offensive line through five games, and

1407
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 13: that was rookie oulu Fashnu starting at right tackle for

1408
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 13: Morgan Moses. But the Jets are encouraged about Morgan Moses

1409
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 13: being back in the lineup, and I think he's gonna

1410
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 13: add some grit.

1411
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 14: The Jets are going to try.

1412
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 13: To run the football to the bottom line, and I think

1413
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 13: both of these teams are going to try to run

1414
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 13: the football tonight.

1415
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, we saw that Morgan Moses will probably back in

1416
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 8: the line. Olufashano struggled in his first couple of starts.

1417
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 8: Can one guy come in and make that big a difference?

1418
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 8: And plus with a new play caller and I get

1419
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 8: an added commitment, how much of this has been scheme,

1420
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 8: play calling, timing, circumstances of the scoreboard. How much of

1421
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 8: that has has led to the jets inability or lack

1422
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 8: of commitment to the run game.

1423
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 14: Yes, it's all of it's Steve. I mean, when you

1424
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 14: look at it, you named it all right there.

1425
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 6: You know.

1426
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 13: Again, last week, I think it was more of a

1427
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 13: function of, Okay, we're behind early, we're behind seventeen points,

1428
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 13: and now we're going to.

1429
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 14: Start throwing football.

1430
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Speaker 5: You know.

1431
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Speaker 13: I do think that you might see some more pre

1432
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 13: snap motion. That's something that Aaron Rodgers was asked about

1433
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 13: here earlier this year and he said, early in my career,

1434
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 13: I was reluctant to do that, but the league has

1435
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 13: changed now. I think we could see some more pre

1436
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 13: snap motion from the Jets two tonight against the Buffalo Bills.

1437
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 13: But I do think the commitment is going to be there,

1438
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 13: and Morgan Moses is going to add something to the mix.

1439
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 13: Last week we saw a lot of the tight ends

1440
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 13: have to get better in the blocking game as well,

1441
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 13: and I think to a man, they would say that.

1442
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 13: So when you look at the entire operation, it's not

1443
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 13: just okay, the five offensivelignement, it's the tight ends and

1444
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 13: also the running backs. The thing that Breis Hall can

1445
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 13: do is that he can get out of the backfield,

1446
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 13: and you guys know this is that you can get

1447
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 13: him one on one outside on a linebacker. And we

1448
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 13: saw that here earlier this year against the Tennessee Titans

1449
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 13: and a key part of that game where Aaron Rodgers

1450
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 13: trusted him and he's just gonna throw it up to

1451
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 13: him in a one on one situation, much like you

1452
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 13: would see with a guy like Mike Williams on the outside.

1453
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 13: But for the Jets, the commitment's got to be there.

1454
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 13: And it's not just the five up front. It's just

1455
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 13: not Morgan Moses coming back in the lineup. It's everybody

1456
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:56,919
Speaker 13: being on the same page.

1457
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 4: Defensive side of the ball, Eric, it was a flag

1458
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 4: filled afternoon against Minnesota last week. Eight penalties total, six

1459
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 4: on defense and guys that got flagged a lot, DJ

1460
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 4: Reid and Sauce Gardner, little clutchy, little Grabby. What has

1461
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 4: been the feedback there in terms of a the way

1462
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 4: in which they're choosing to play defense or do you

1463
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 4: just see that as a one off? I mean, they've

1464
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 4: been called for the second most penalties on defense so

1465
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 4: far this season. Is this a weekly thing or would

1466
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 4: you call it a one off because they're playing one

1467
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 4: of the best receivers in football last week and Justin Jefferson.

1468
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 14: Well, it's a great question.

1469
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 13: So I go back to the Denver game and say, okay,

1470
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 13: with the jetson thirteen penalies, I mean fifteen penalies and

1471
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 13: all thirteen marked off against them, But against Justin Jefferson,

1472
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 13: who is a physical receiver himself, the Jets got after

1473
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 13: him bottom line defensively. He gave up sixteen points against

1474
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 13: a prolifical offense there in London because one of those

1475
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 13: touchdowns came on a pick six, and data a fine

1476
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 13: job against Jefferson. Yes, call for a couple of penalties.

1477
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 13: I think it's a couple of those flags were TICKI taki.

1478
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 13: These corners are going to get after you. DJ Reid,

1479
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 13: as you guys know, a very good cornerback in his

1480
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 13: own right. I know saus Gardner gets the headlines and

1481
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 13: rightfully sold because he's a good corner on the outside.

1482
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 14: But DJ Reid right now through five.

1483
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 13: Games, Pro Football Focus has him top cornerback in the NFL.

1484
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 13: I mean, these guys are sticking covers are going to

1485
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 13: get after you. Jefferson is a guy who initiates the

1486
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 13: contact oftentimes. I thought the Jets did a great job

1487
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:36,839
Speaker 13: against Justin Jefferson and top five across the board metric wise.

1488
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 13: This defense is still playing an elite level. They're number

1489
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 13: one in the league yards per play.

1490
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 8: Give us a little bit about their upfront, their front defensively.

1491
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 8: I know Hassan Reddick has switched agents and maybe there'll

1492
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 8: be some movement on that front whatever, But how are

1493
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 8: they doing without that guy in the lineup? What's what's

1494
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 8: the front and what can the Bills offensive line look to.

1495
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 13: Well, it's been so interesting so far because the Jets

1496
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 13: have the most amount of sacks they've had through five

1497
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 13: games back you know, do you have to trace back

1498
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,839
Speaker 13: to two thousand and eight. So last week against the Vikings,

1499
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,879
Speaker 13: they got to the quarterback, they got to Sam Donald.

1500
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 14: Jermaine Johnson went down with an achilles. So they're doing

1501
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 14: this not only without Hassan Reddick showing up, but Jermaine Johnson,

1502
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 14: who's a tremendous edge in his own right. He took

1503
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 14: that jump in year two. He's out for the year.

1504
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 13: So what you have on the inside, right, now is

1505
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 13: you got Quinnon Williams, who remains a foundational piece, and

1506
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 13: then Javon Kinlock came over from San Francisco forty nine ers,

1507
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 13: you got Michael Clemens. I know Dion Dawkins knows hims

1508
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 13: quite well, and we're gonna be watching those guys throughout

1509
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 13: the game tonight.

1510
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 14: He's on one edge.

1511
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 13: But the guy who you got to highlight, especially against

1512
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 13: Josh Allen, is Will McDonald because a lot of people

1513
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 13: are talking about in year one, where's Will McDonald, what

1514
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 13: kind of contributions did he make? Get Well, Bryce Off

1515
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 13: goes and signs with the Philadelphia Eagles and free agency,

1516
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 13: and we know that Will McDonald has six sex.

1517
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 14: He's second in the.

1518
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 13: National Football League in terms of getting to the quarterback

1519
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 13: and I think he's tied for third quarterback hits. He's

1520
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 13: a freaky athlete who's got tremendous ben explosive off the edge,

1521
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 13: and you have to watch him tonight against Allen because

1522
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 13: the Jets they want to keep Allen in the pocket.

1523
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 13: We all know that because I thought Sauce Gardner about

1524
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 13: this is that he's a guy who's not just gonna

1525
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 13: look to run when he gets outside He's going to

1526
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 13: look to make the big play down the field. We

1527
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 13: saw that early last game in London against the Vikings

1528
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 13: where they're running the boot with Sam Donald and Will

1529
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 13: McDonald's all over it, snuffing at out. So that is

1530
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 13: a big thing for the Jets right now, is that

1531
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 13: his development has really helped out.

1532
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,799
Speaker 4: And then what are we expecting, you know, with CJ. Mosley,

1533
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 4: He's missed the last three games with the tow I

1534
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 4: know he comes into the game questionable again and Jamie

1535
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 4: and Sherwood has largely been his replacement in the lineup

1536
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 4: for the most part. First of all, does the defense

1537
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 4: play differently with Sherwood in the lineup as opposed to Mosley?

1538
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,520
Speaker 4: To Sherwood a little bit more athletic player, better in coverage,

1539
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 4: So how much does the second level of that defense

1540
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 4: morphin change if it's Mosey as opposed to Sherwood.

1541
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 14: I'm looking more at bass because Brownie.

1542
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 13: I think even if Mosley's up tonite, he probably wouldn't

1543
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 13: get the full compliment of snaps, but he would return

1544
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 13: to that mike linebacker role. But in base situations you

1545
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 13: would get even better because Mosley comes back and you

1546
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 13: still have Surewood pair it up with Quincy Williams and

1547
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 13: that's a lot of speed, a lot of athleticism. Those

1548
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 13: guys have been all over the field here early this season.

1549
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 13: I mentioned DJ Reid. I think DJ Reid doesn't get

1550
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 13: enough credit for what he's done so far this season.

1551
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 13: But Sherwood's development here has been on full display. Getting

1552
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 13: Mosely back would be good for thee for the Jets,

1553
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 13: and then you also can pace him so you don't

1554
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 13: have to throw him out their sixty snaps. Sure would

1555
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 13: not much of a drop off at all, But as

1556
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 13: far as that mind is concerned, you'd love to get

1557
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 13: mostly back in the lineup.

1558
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 14: That would be big for the Jets.

1559
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 8: All right, I get one last one from me, Eric,

1560
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 8: and it goes back to something we talked about a

1561
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 8: little earlier.

1562
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 6: In the segment.

1563
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 8: Todd Downing taken over his play caller a couple of questions,

1564
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 8: how how much sway is he going to have to

1565
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 8: get Aaron Rodgers to do something different than he has done?

1566
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 8: And Aaron Rodgers has said about the pre snap motion

1567
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 8: and the shifts that is so prevalent in the NFL

1568
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 8: now has not been present for the Jets of late

1569
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 8: and I was telling Brownie this earlier.

1570
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 6: Earlier in Rogers' career.

1571
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 8: When Mike McCarthy got fired from Green Bay, he was

1572
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 8: criticized for the exact same kind of offensive in that,

1573
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 8: you know, lack of innovation that the Jets are being

1574
01:24:56,160 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 8: criticized at about now. If you follow my how much

1575
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 8: of that is the coaches? How much is it Aaron

1576
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 8: saying Hey, I want to run the offense this way,

1577
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 8: And will Todd Downing have the juice to get Aaron

1578
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 8: to run it a different way?

1579
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, So those are all great questions. We're gonna have

1580
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 13: to see how it all plays out tonight. But again,

1581
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 13: I just go back to what Rogers said in the

1582
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 13: locker room throughout the year, because he's been asked about

1583
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 13: this multiple times, Steve is that he's more open.

1584
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 14: To it than he has been in the past.

1585
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 13: The last couple of weeks, obviously the Jets have gone

1586
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 13: away from it, but I anticipate not just because Downing's

1587
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,440
Speaker 13: coming on board as a play caller, I just anticipate

1588
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 13: the Jets doing some more that stuff pre snap, getting

1589
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 13: a little bit more creative, and the runs not just

1590
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 13: straight up the middle, maybe some more misdirection and again

1591
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 13: as far as I don't know if they're necessarily going

1592
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 13: to come out running, but they got to have more.

1593
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 14: Commitment to the run game. Doesn't mean we're gonna run

1594
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 14: on first down. Okay.

1595
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 13: So with Rogers and Downing, he has said, listen, he

1596
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,839
Speaker 13: is very close with Hackett.

1597
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 14: We all know that.

1598
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 13: I mean they have a long relationship, long standing relationship,

1599
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 13: and then that's not gonna go away, you know. Again,

1600
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 13: subdued from one on the spectrum in the locker room

1601
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 13: this week, because you know, I think players feel bad

1602
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 13: because even Rodgers has said, I have to play better.

1603
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 13: If I played better, sala is still a head coach,

1604
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 13: Hackett's still calm plays. But I do think that the

1605
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 13: Jets are gonna tinker with their approach. And you go

1606
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 13: back to Downing. I know everybody's looking at the stats

1607
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 13: in Tennessee, and I don't know how much we can

1608
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 13: tremendously focus on that. Because he had Henry in the backfield,

1609
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 13: this is a different backfield, and then Ryan Tannehill was quarterback.

1610
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 13: So I mean there's gonna be some give and take,

1611
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 13: and you have to take advantage of Aaron Rodgers. He

1612
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 13: has seen every he has seen every defensive front. He

1613
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 13: has seen every defensive coverage, so you can't take away

1614
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 13: what he brings to the table because it's like having

1615
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 13: an additional coach out there. But he knows, you know,

1616
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 13: I think there is some give and take and the Jets.

1617
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:13,839
Speaker 14: Are working progress.

1618
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 13: It's five games in, but Woody Johnson wanted to go

1619
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 13: in a new direction because he just saw enough where

1620
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 13: not just from this year, where he thought that a

1621
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 13: this team was not performing to his capabilities. So you know,

1622
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 13: I'm gonna be fascinating to see what this looks like

1623
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 13: in the first quarter.

1624
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 4: Tonight, Eric, Thanks for the time is always appreciated. Enjoy

1625
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:35,759
Speaker 4: the game tonight should be a doozy.

1626
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 14: Thanks follows. We'll see you over there.

1627
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 6: Thanks.

1628
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:39,919
Speaker 4: All right, that's New York Jets VP and news strategy

1629
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 4: Eric Allen joining us. We take a break here, back

1630
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 4: to your phone calls when we return here on One

1631
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 4: Bill's Live, presented body to a lot of health. It's

1632
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, Welcome back to One Bill's

1633
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,759
Speaker 4: Live Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here on this Buffalo Football

1634
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 4: Month Review edition with the Bills playing on Monday Night

1635
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,879
Speaker 4: football against the Jets at Medlife Stadium in East Rutherford,

1636
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 4: New Jersey. Question on the table for you is to

1637
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 4: fill in the blank for the Bills to get a

1638
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 4: win on Monday night football against the Jets. Blank needs

1639
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 4: to happen. Let's head back to the phones and we

1640
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 4: go to John in for Donia. What do you got

1641
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 4: for us?

1642
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 15: John, Hey, guys, good afternoon, Happy Monday to you. Blank

1643
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 15: needs to happen. Blank needs to happen. Smarter coaching, Man,

1644
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 15: smarter Two. The three wards is scare me the most

1645
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 15: right now in this season are for the Bills as

1646
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 15: third and one, don't go deep and hope for a flag,

1647
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 15: and for crying out low. We don't need a trick play.

1648
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,919
Speaker 15: Just do what you do. Give Josh Allen two yards,

1649
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 15: just the tiniest lane. He's going to pick up the

1650
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 15: first down. Smarter coaching. I'm tired of hearing people saying, oh,

1651
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,759
Speaker 15: Sean McDermott was just out coached.

1652
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 12: If he gets out coached.

1653
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 15: Tonight, there's gonna be some serious murmurings going on in

1654
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 15: the front office.

1655
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 8: Jamal Man, John, with all due respect, let me just

1656
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 8: tell you you're I think you're looking at this all wrong.

1657
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 8: Third and one. Nobody is calling Josh. Nobody's telling dropping

1658
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 8: back and throwing nine thousand yards deep. He's not going

1659
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 8: deep on a third and one, nobody's calling a deep pass.

1660
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 8: You send guys deep to spread the defense out, and

1661
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,799
Speaker 8: you expect Josh to hit the easy completion. Josh doesn't

1662
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 8: do that. We've had people calling this show way back

1663
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 8: in the day when you got a fullback running down

1664
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 8: the sideline, double covered by a corner in a safety

1665
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 8: and Josh throws it deep, and you're vilifying an offensive

1666
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 8: coordinator when that's what an offensive coordinator.

1667
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 6: Is supposed to do.

1668
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 8: Okay, you're supposed to send it, Let the defense double

1669
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 8: team a fat guy who's not gonna catch the ball,

1670
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 8: use up two of their best athletes, and then you

1671
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 8: got everything else is a mismatch up front. Well, you

1672
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 8: can't if your quarterback's gonna throw it to the fat

1673
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 8: guy who's double covered by elite athletes.

1674
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:05,759
Speaker 6: How do you call that stupid coaching.

1675
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had to cut him loose, Steve, because we're

1676
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 4: up against the clock here and we're trying to get

1677
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 4: to some other people who have been waiting patiently. But

1678
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 4: your point is well taken. Yes, I remember it well.

1679
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 4: Pat DeMarco Pat de Marstow.

1680
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 8: This is a lot of that. This is a lot

1681
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 8: of that. Yes, you're gonna send guys deep in the

1682
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 8: routes on a fourth and short, but they're not getting

1683
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 8: You don't want them to throw the ball to them

1684
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 8: unless they're by themselves and they get dropped coverage.

1685
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 6: You don't do that.

1686
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 8: You send these guys out to spread the defense out

1687
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 8: so they're weaker upfront and you can punch it through

1688
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 8: for a first down. I mean, as you can. And

1689
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 8: I know this too. People are and I listen. I

1690
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 8: don't want any other quarterback on our team, sept Josh.

1691
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 6: I don't.

1692
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 8: He's the dude, but he's not perfect and sometimes his

1693
01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:00,719
Speaker 8: Golden Retriever personality against the best of him.

1694
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 4: Let's go back to the phones and to Judy in Buffalo.

1695
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 4: What's up, Judy?

1696
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 16: Okay, I hate to keep being the same horse, but

1697
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 16: I'm just going to refer to the Green Bay Packers game.

1698
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 16: I saw a touchdown pass to Christian Watson, who should

1699
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 16: have been a bill three years ago. I saw Jordan

1700
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 16: Love throw two deficient passes to Doves who miraculously made

1701
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 16: them in the touchdowns. Okay, Jordan Love is not a

1702
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:40,719
Speaker 16: Josh Allen, you scoffed at me for saying we should

1703
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 16: offer a second round draft choice to get Doves. Here

1704
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 16: we are, if I'm not mistaken.

1705
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 17: We gave up.

1706
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 16: We traded a third and a fifth round draft choice

1707
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 16: to get Rasul Douglas from the Green Bay Packers, so

1708
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 16: we have a history with them.

1709
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 11: It was a good move.

1710
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 16: Maybe we could have done this, Maybe we could have

1711
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 16: picked up a receiver making a less than million dollars

1712
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,759
Speaker 16: a year who can catch the ball. My big third

1713
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 16: night is this is a fifty to fifty game, and

1714
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 16: I'm so I'm so afraid if the Bills loose night tomorrow,

1715
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,919
Speaker 16: they will be referring to the Bills as the AFC

1716
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 16: version of the Dallas Cowboys.

1717
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 8: All right, comment, Yeah, well, if if the Bills lose

1718
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 8: seven to nine, yeah, they may be.

1719
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 6: They may be.

1720
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the biggest difference there between the Bills

1721
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 4: and Dallas is Dallas is getting annihilated at home now.

1722
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 4: To be fair, the Bills and Dallas defensively have suffered

1723
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:54,679
Speaker 4: crippling injuries to start the season. Dallas is without DeMarcus

1724
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 4: Lawrence and Micah Parsons, their two best pass rushers and

1725
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 4: arguably two of their five best players on defense. You

1726
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 4: don't have a pass rush, teams are gonna score on you.

1727
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 4: And that's the biggest problem for Dallas. The Bills are

1728
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 4: with I mean, we can run down the list, Matt

1729
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 4: Milano at Oliver von Miller. I mean, we can keep going,

1730
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 4: Taron Johnson, you know, Terrell Bernard until last week, Taylor Rap.

1731
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 4: I mean, it's they were without five starters. It's just

1732
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,560
Speaker 4: you know, so if you want to draw comparisons, you

1733
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 4: can do that. And yet the Bills have only been

1734
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 4: wiped out in one game, not four, all of which

1735
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 4: were at home for the Cowboys, by the way, So

1736
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 4: I think that's a little bit extreme in terms of

1737
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 4: a comparison. But Steve's right, if they get wiped out

1738
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 4: tonight by a wide margin, all right, Ever, you want

1739
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 4: to make that comparison, fine.

1740
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 8: Everybody's gonna throw dirt on them if they get wiped

1741
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 8: out tonight like the Cowboys did last week, this last yesterday. Yeah,

1742
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 8: they'll be throwing dirt on them. Absolutely, And I'm sure

1743
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 8: all of us, all our callers are in our show,

1744
01:33:58,080 --> 01:33:59,679
Speaker 8: will be part of the holding shovels.

1745
01:33:59,760 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 6: Right.

1746
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 8: But and I'll say this too about Christian Watson. Let

1747
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 8: me say this, I love part and Parcel. I love

1748
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 8: everything that Brandon Bean does with the Bills roster. I've

1749
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 8: loved everything that he's done. Now it hasn't all worked out,

1750
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 8: but at the time when he made the moves that

1751
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 8: he has made, I've thought they were absolutely stellar. The

1752
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 8: Christian Watson thing in Green Bay, and I don't know

1753
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 8: what their philosophy is and why that play. A deal

1754
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 8: like that didn't happen if it's not Christian Watson, a

1755
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 8: different guy from another team who can catch the ball.

1756
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 8: What you're saying, I get it, a cheap, inexpensive receiver,

1757
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 8: trade some draft prospects or some draft capital, and then,

1758
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 8: you know, get your team better. I can't get on

1759
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 8: board with that because it's it's too easy. I mean,

1760
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 8: let's face it, you got people in here they're wanting

1761
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:59,799
Speaker 8: us to trade for, you know, for Jamar Chase.

1762
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just not gonna happen.

1763
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 8: You want us to get to with DeVante Adams is

1764
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 8: still on the table, but you know, and he's talking

1765
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 8: to him about that.

1766
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 6: You got it.

1767
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 8: It's too easy to play general manager when you don't

1768
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 8: have any consequences, don't have any budget, and everything is

1769
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 8: just plug and play. And that guy that's over there

1770
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 8: on that team will be exactly or better than he

1771
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 8: would on our team if we trade for him. It

1772
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 8: never works like that, So I'm it's hard to get

1773
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 8: into that conversation about anything with anybody. I don't know

1774
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 8: what the Green Bay Packers want for Christian Watson, I

1775
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 8: really don't.

1776
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 4: Well. Look, the first thing to say here, she was

1777
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 4: bringing up Romeo doubts as a trade option because he

1778
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 4: had gone a wall. It looked like he had fell

1779
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,759
Speaker 4: out of favor with the organization. And I was explaining

1780
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,639
Speaker 4: to Judy last week when she called that he had

1781
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 4: already had his arms wrapped around the Packers already wrapped

1782
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 4: their arms back around him and said, look, you made

1783
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:57,719
Speaker 4: a mistake, maya culpa, whatever, Let's just get back together

1784
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 4: and get back on the same page. And they did

1785
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 4: that to the tune of him scoring a touchdown last week.

1786
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 4: But the other thing I'll point out to Judy and

1787
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 4: everybody else is Christian Watson and Romeo Doubs are in

1788
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 4: their third season in this offense, and the Bill's timeline

1789
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 4: of refortifying their receiving Corps is a year or two

1790
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 4: behind them. You've got Keyon Coleman in his rookie season,

1791
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 4: Dalton Kincaid in his second season. You've got Dowbs and

1792
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 4: Watson now in their third season and they're producing. I mean, look,

1793
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 4: did they produce to some degree in the previous two years. Yes,

1794
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 4: because they didn't have anybody else in their offense, They

1795
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,480
Speaker 4: had no veterans. Those guys had to learn fast and immediately.

1796
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 4: That's what Kinkaid and Coleman are doing now. My only

1797
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 4: statement would be, try to let it materialize. We got

1798
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 4: to take a break when we come back. We've got

1799
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 4: ESPN's Laura Rutledge from ESPN NFL Live joining us for

1800
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 4: her take on Bill's Jets. Next.

1801
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 1: This the one Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Help.

1802
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's referred to as a game of inches, a

1803
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 2: couple of inches on a few different throws that could

1804
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 2: have drastically changed the game and would be talking a

1805
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 2: different tune this morning.

1806
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 3: That's where we're at and this is what we do.

1807
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 4: I don't believe in the Bill.

1808
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:02,719
Speaker 5: They all don't have home windows.

1809
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 4: Clothes on this.

1810
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 3: Seat, but told is cheap and the story changes every week.

1811
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 3: So it's our job to write.

1812
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 4: Quarterback draws first and gold Buffalo.

1813
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 6: Are we going to measure up to our expectations?

1814
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 8: He's a summer song.

1815
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 3: Show our resilience, the ball of strips picked up.

1816
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 7: And fight for every inch the line, and we'll find

1817
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 7: out on the biggest stage and prime done.

1818
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 3: Monday Night Football.

1819
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 4: All right, welcome to hour number three here on One

1820
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 4: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you in a

1821
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 4: Monday preview edition of the show, and happy to be

1822
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 4: joined now by ESPN NFL Live host Laura Rutledge, who

1823
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 4: you can see on NFL Live weekdays at four pm

1824
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 4: Eastern on ESPN, with special two hour editions beginning at

1825
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 4: three pm Eastern time on Mondays. So a little bit

1826
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:01,600
Speaker 4: of crunch time here, So Laura, thanks for giving us

1827
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 4: some time. She was on the sidelines back in week

1828
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 4: three for the Monday night football game between the Bills

1829
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:09,600
Speaker 4: and Jacksonville. She will be on the sidelines tonight for

1830
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 4: Bills and Jets as well. So thanks for giving us

1831
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 4: a little time here, Laura, on a very busy afternoon

1832
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,759
Speaker 4: and evening for you. We appreciate it. I guess first

1833
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 4: out of the shoot here, how different a couple of

1834
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,760
Speaker 4: weeks makes because you saw the Bills maybe at their

1835
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 4: high water mark thus far on offense, and it has

1836
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 4: come crashing down to earth here the last couple of weeks.

1837
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 4: They're down a big problem, and separation by the receiver

1838
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 4: is a big problem. What does it look like from

1839
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 4: your view?

1840
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, geez, after we saw him against the

1841
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,680
Speaker 18: Jaguars and like, this team's winning the Super Bowl, and

1842
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 18: I still think they're very close to that. You know,

1843
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 18: even Josh Allen told us yesterday he just needs to

1844
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 18: play a clean game. They just need to focus on

1845
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 18: getting the ball down field as much as possible and

1846
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 18: doing that in different ways. It doesn't have to be

1847
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:01,520
Speaker 18: in these large chunk plays. Just move the ball. And

1848
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 18: Joe Brady echoing that sentiment too, just finding ways to

1849
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 18: get it into the hands of their playmakers, which I

1850
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 18: know sounds a little bit formulaic or what you would expect,

1851
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 18: but I think for this Bills offense, they're good enough

1852
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 18: to do that, and without you know, a number one

1853
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 18: receiver like a Stefan Diggs, they need to get back

1854
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 18: to doing what they were doing when we saw them

1855
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 18: and even prior to that, which was just spreading it

1856
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 18: out and getting everyone involved, and I think that'll look

1857
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 18: really good for them. I think we'll potentially see James

1858
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 18: Cook tonight. That could be big. Khalil Shaker coming back

1859
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 18: could be big if that happens. But I also think

1860
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 18: a heavy dose of Ray Davis could be something that

1861
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 18: makes a difference for the Bills offense tonight.

1862
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 8: Give us a little bit of maybe a thumb nail

1863
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 8: of what they thought the problems have been in the

1864
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:45,919
Speaker 8: last couple of weeks. Certainly one game was a blowout

1865
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 8: in Baltimore where the trick play blew up in their

1866
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 8: faces and their momentum that they were getting back in

1867
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 8: the game just evaporated right there. Then last week, you know,

1868
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:56,679
Speaker 8: they just ran out of steam at the end, didn't

1869
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 8: handle the last two minutes exactly the way they should have.

1870
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 8: Give us an idea of what they think now going

1871
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 8: to this one. What has been the issues going from

1872
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:05,679
Speaker 8: the last couple of games.

1873
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, it's it's kind of like what you

1874
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 18: heard Josh Allen say, they're in your Tea's just the

1875
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 18: game being a game of inches. He feels like they've

1876
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 18: been close and had he made a couple more throws

1877
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 18: which you know, I think we all know the throws

1878
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 18: we're talking about there, they could be in a much

1879
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 18: better situation. And to his point, we wouldn't be talking

1880
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 18: about this the way that we are. So it's details,

1881
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 18: it's attention to detail, you know. Joe Brady said they

1882
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 18: haven't had that at the level that they need to.

1883
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 18: Sean McDermott echoed that as well offensively, which you know,

1884
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 18: you wonder, how do you have a mental lapse like

1885
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 18: that after you've been so good? But that I think

1886
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 18: is going to be their big focus tonight, and they know,

1887
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 18: you know, that's just defense. Is not one that you

1888
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 18: can just sort of walk in on and you know,

1889
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 18: start throwing the ball all over the place and running

1890
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 18: the ball over the place. It's a really good defense.

1891
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 18: So I think their plan will be very focused on

1892
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 18: trying to make things happen early. First and second down

1893
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 18: certainly a big emphasis, and as you guys know, there's

1894
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 18: struggles on third down. If first and second down sets

1895
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:02,600
Speaker 18: up the way they wanted to, then third downs a

1896
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 18: non issue, or at least should set up a lot better.

1897
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 18: So I think they'll focus on first and second down

1898
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 18: in hopes that it affects the rest of the drive.

1899
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 4: Flipping it over to the Jets, Laura obviously a tumultuous

1900
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:16,639
Speaker 4: week with you know, Robert salind no longer there as

1901
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 4: head coach. An offensive coordinator demoted, how much change do

1902
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 4: you think is realistic for a Jets offense that has

1903
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:27,799
Speaker 4: its own share of problems.

1904
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think we won't see them look that different, right,

1905
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 18: It's just it was six days ago that they made

1906
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 18: all these changes, so it's just impossible to think that

1907
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 18: it would be that different. But you know, if you

1908
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 18: think about Todd Downing and some of his tendencies, the

1909
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:45,519
Speaker 18: way that he called plays when he was in Tennessee,

1910
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 18: and this was something that Jeff Olbrick pointed out. He

1911
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 18: liked the way that Downy would kind of finish a

1912
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 18: team off and really make them pay at the end

1913
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 18: of games. And if you think about some of those offenses,

1914
01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 18: you know, certainly Derrick Henry helped there, but just kind

1915
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 18: of that punishing factor. That's what I think they want.

1916
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 18: I think they want to see that in the way

1917
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 18: that he calls the plays. And one thing that they

1918
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 18: pointed out was that we won't necessarily see a different offense,

1919
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 18: but you may see a different sequence of plays than

1920
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,599
Speaker 18: what you would have seen with Hackett. So it's still

1921
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:20,599
Speaker 18: the same offense, but you know, there's a different twist

1922
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,759
Speaker 18: to it because it's a different person making the calls.

1923
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 6: What has Aaron said about the transition.

1924
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 18: He said that Hackett handled it a lot better than

1925
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 18: he would have, but overall, he's liked, you know, some

1926
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 18: of the things that Oldbrick has changed, outside of maybe

1927
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 18: the play caller situation. We'll kind of see that play

1928
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Speaker 18: out tonight, but he said accountability is the biggest thing.

1929
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Speaker 18: So he feels like, you know, coach Olbrick has brought

1930
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Speaker 18: in this need for accountability across the board, and Aaron

1931
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 18: said that starts with me. If I had played better,

1932
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Speaker 18: we wouldn't be in this situation. So I do think

1933
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 18: there they are looking for ways to capitalize on a

1934
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 18: new energy and what they feel like is a fresh

1935
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Speaker 18: start on the season.

1936
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Speaker 4: In the secondary for the Jets, Laura, obviously, you've got

1937
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 4: some really talented cover corners and DJ Reid and Sauce Gardner,

1938
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 4: but this is a secondary that's also been flagged an

1939
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 4: awful lot six penalties last week alone. On defense, they're

1940
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 4: the second most penalized defensive team in the league, and

1941
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:24,640
Speaker 4: you've got Adrian Hill's crew tonight, who has called the

1942
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 4: third most penalties thus far this season. The clutchy, grabby

1943
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 4: approach you could be costly. It was costly on one

1944
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 4: particular touchdown drive by the Vikings last week where I

1945
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 4: think they got called for three different pass defense penalties

1946
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 4: on the same drive and it gave them an extra

1947
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 4: set of downs to punch it in the end zone

1948
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Speaker 4: and go up by a couple of scores. Again. So

1949
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that their approach is going to change,

1950
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 4: but how much risk do they feel they take with

1951
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 4: that kind of physical approach to pass coverage.

1952
01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's certainly part of what their identity is. To

1953
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 18: your point, you know, it's something that could could hurt them.

1954
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 18: I don't think they'll change a whole lot. I mean,

1955
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 18: the other thing to think about here is this is

1956
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 18: a key divisional game that matters kind of no matter

1957
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 18: how you look at it. But certainly when it comes

1958
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 18: to competitive fire out there, which is a big piece

1959
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 18: of the reason why they play that way. I bet

1960
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 18: we'll see a little bit more of that name maybe

1961
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 18: the Bills can capitalize on it.

1962
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 8: Give us an idea, perhaps maybe on the other side

1963
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 8: of the ball. Morgan Moses gets back into the lineup

1964
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 8: at right tackle tonight. They're trying to run the ball.

1965
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 8: They want to be committed to it. Nobody in the

1966
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 8: league is running the ball worse than they have to

1967
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 8: this point of the season. It's got to be a

1968
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:38,759
Speaker 8: point of emphasis, do you think tonight?

1969
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:43,640
Speaker 18: Absolutely, and I wouldn't be surprised if they try to

1970
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 18: even set up some of the run with a little

1971
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 18: bit of tempo even maybe that they're going to do

1972
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 18: whatever they can to try to get that going because

1973
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 18: it has been so abysmal, and you know, that's part

1974
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 18: of the main reason why their offense hasn't functioned the

1975
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 18: way that they would like to see it function. So

1976
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 18: run game is certainly a priority. Treatments to Laura.

1977
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:03,640
Speaker 4: We appreciate the time, and we know you're jammed up

1978
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 4: with responsibilities there at Medlife Stadium, so thanks for giving

1979
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 4: us a little bit of your time here this afternoon.

1980
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Speaker 4: Enjoy the game tonight. We'll be watching you down on

1981
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 4: the sideline.

1982
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Speaker 18: I appreciate it. Thank you, guys.

1983
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Speaker 6: Thanks Laura.

1984
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 4: All right, that's Laura Rutledge joining us ESPN NFL Live

1985
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 4: host and also will be on the sidelines covering the

1986
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 4: team tonight for Monday Night Football. We got to take

1987
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 4: a break here, but we're back to your phone calls

1988
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 4: when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by

1989
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Speaker 4: to a Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Rady. Welcome

1990
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 4: back to One Bill's Live Buffalo Football Monday Preview edition.

1991
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 4: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and got to get

1992
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 4: right back to the phones at eight oh three five

1993
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Speaker 4: point fifty one, eight eight five fifty two, five point fifty.

1994
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 4: As we are asking you for the Bills to get

1995
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,879
Speaker 4: a win on Monday Night Football against the Jets. Blank

1996
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 4: needs to happen. Fill in the blank for us at

1997
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 4: eight o three, five fifty. Leading us off this segment

1998
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 4: is DJ out in Hamburg. What do you got for

1999
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 4: his DJ?

2000
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:11,759
Speaker 19: Yeah, Chris, and see how you doing, Tody Good. I'm

2001
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 19: pretty excited about tonight. I think it's pretty even matchup Defensively,

2002
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:19,559
Speaker 19: I am a little concerned about the officiating because we

2003
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 19: had gotten a lot of penalties and they first gave

2004
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 19: in no Aaron Rodgers went down. You got the Yankees

2005
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 19: and the Yankee stating you got the Bills and Jets

2006
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 19: in the middle Lands, So I'm concerned about that. The

2007
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 19: other thing I wanted to ask you guys what you thought.

2008
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 19: I'm not saying all the time, but put Josh in

2009
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:38,679
Speaker 19: a seven or nine step drop once in a while

2010
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 19: to give receivers more time to get separations, I could

2011
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 19: add up to some big plays. I don't know what

2012
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 19: you think about that.

2013
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, certainly, I think one of the things that Brownie

2014
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 8: and I see, at least I see when I watched

2015
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 8: the All twenty two some of the times the routes

2016
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,600
Speaker 8: that go down the field obviously take more time to

2017
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 8: develop beause it takes longer for those guys to run

2018
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 8: down the field. And that's why teams draft the fastest

2019
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 8: guys they can get their hands on, so that doesn't

2020
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 8: take that much time for them to get deeper and

2021
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 8: to run more developed rout combinations. And I see this too,

2022
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 8: where Josh has got an opening quick like if he

2023
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 8: wants to dump it off to a quick tight end

2024
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 8: or a running back or one of the receivers in

2025
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 8: a shallow route, he can get it real quick if

2026
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 8: he wants it, but he wants to wait for just

2027
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 8: an extra half second or three quarters of a second.

2028
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 8: See if the deeper routes are going to come open,

2029
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 8: and then by the time he comes back to this,

2030
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 8: you know, when the pressure gets there, he either doesn't

2031
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 8: have a chance to dump it off to the first

2032
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 8: open receiver that he saw in the beginning, or now

2033
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 8: they're covered up as the play developed and they're not

2034
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,680
Speaker 8: open anymore. That's part of the problem with some of

2035
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 8: the passing game concepts they use. Yeah, you got a

2036
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 8: guy open really quick, but if a guy like Josh,

2037
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 8: who can make all the throws, wants to get a

2038
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 8: bigger chunk, he's got to wait on those routes to develop.

2039
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 6: I agree with you.

2040
01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 8: Sometimes you've got to drop him back deeper and give

2041
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 8: yourself a chance to knock off a bigger chunk. And

2042
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 8: it forces the defense to play coverage and to rush

2043
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,679
Speaker 8: the passer to see if they can do both those

2044
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 8: things at once. But like always, you know, you gotta

2045
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 8: have a balance. Some of it, yes, and all the

2046
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 8: time no. But you're right, I'm all about having him

2047
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 8: drop deep and use his arm because he can threaten

2048
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 8: every corner of the field. Once in a while, it's awesome,

2049
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 8: and whenever it works, go back to it.

2050
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 4: Right. The problem is it has worked and Josh has

2051
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 4: missed the throw. That's what's happened. So again, Josh is

2052
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 4: not blameless in what is going on with the offense.

2053
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 4: The last couple of weeks. He's had deep shots. He

2054
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 4: just has not hit them so far this season, and

2055
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 4: when those are missing from your offense, it makes your

2056
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 4: offense a heavier lift, as we have witnessed each of

2057
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 4: the last two weeks. Back to the phone and to

2058
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 4: fred in Rochester, what's up Fred, Hi.

2059
01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:01,639
Speaker 20: Guys, thanks for taking a call. I'm sure I think

2060
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:07,360
Speaker 20: always we respect our opponents. That goes without question. I

2061
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 20: think the things that we need to do, I think

2062
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 20: one defensively and one offensively offensively. Obviously, jas is gonna

2063
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 20: play up to his capabilities. You know, I don't think

2064
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:21,240
Speaker 20: you're not gonna. I think you're gonna see that happen tonight,

2065
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 20: I really do. I don't think he's gonna. I hope

2066
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 20: that he's well okay. I hope that he's okay. That's

2067
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 20: the only kind of worry that I have. Defensively, it

2068
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 20: all comes down to putting pressure on Rogers. If you

2069
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:38,680
Speaker 20: put the pressure on him, and Steve said this earlier,

2070
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 20: if you put pressure on him he's he's a hurting cowboy.

2071
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:48,679
Speaker 20: That's what I think. And I think basically those are

2072
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 20: the two things that you know we've got to do

2073
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 20: to and I think we can win the game. Not

2074
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 20: easily because I always say, respect your opponent, but we

2075
01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 20: should be able to win this game. Thanks again, and

2076
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 20: I always near resished.

2077
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 8: Thanks, Fred, and I all agree with All agree with Fred.

2078
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 8: I mean, you think about what these two teams and

2079
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 8: how they're constructed. We've seen on multiple occasions throughout both

2080
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 8: of these quarterbacks careers their ability to win games by

2081
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 8: the rest by themselves, and if either one of them

2082
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 8: has one of those games, it's over right. If both

2083
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 8: of them have one of those games, let's go, man,

2084
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 8: we all sign up for that.

2085
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 6: Let's see one of those games. Right.

2086
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 8: Does Aaron Rodgers still have one of those games in

2087
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 8: him against the Buffalo Bills defense. Maybe, certainly the Jets

2088
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:41,640
Speaker 8: think that he does. We have seen Josh play that

2089
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 8: way early in this season and play that way and

2090
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:47,640
Speaker 8: play extremely well, so we know he's got that in

2091
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 8: his tank too. So yeah, when push comes to shove

2092
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 8: and you want the best players on either team to

2093
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 8: take over game, these two quarterbacks have shoot shown they

2094
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:00,800
Speaker 8: can do it. They can be that guy I'm and

2095
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 8: of course Bill's fans will sign up for that. Let's

2096
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 8: see Josh do it. But I'm I'm still back where

2097
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 8: we were at the very beginning of the show. We

2098
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 8: need more guys to show up and help Josh take

2099
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 8: the load off him. Give him some options so he

2100
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 8: can make throws rather than make runs, so he doesn't

2101
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 8: land on his own hand and have to wear a

2102
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 8: glove for a month and a half because he's pounding

2103
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:24,720
Speaker 8: it into the end zone on his you know, jumping in,

2104
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 8: diving in. You need more guys to help him, and

2105
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 8: this has been what they've been trying to do since

2106
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 8: Josh was a rookie. Give him more help offensively, give

2107
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 8: him more chances, give him more ways to beat the

2108
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:41,640
Speaker 8: defense rather than just running off with the ball or

2109
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 8: rolling out and jumping out of bounds and making an

2110
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 8: impossible throw. Give the guys some easier options. The one

2111
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 8: option we're seeing how with Hollands. He just missed that

2112
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 8: throw in Houston, and that would have changed everything. That's

2113
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 8: the frustrating thing I think for Josh when he stands

2114
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 8: there and is thinking about what's going on with this season.

2115
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 8: Is just the fact that he's missed a couple of

2116
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 8: plays that might have made a difference in these last

2117
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 8: two losses.

2118
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 4: And just so it's clear to everybody, because I know

2119
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 4: there was some questioning as to Josh's health. They even

2120
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 4: confirmed at the league level that Josh was properly examined

2121
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:23,639
Speaker 4: by the independent neurological consultant after he hit his head

2122
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 4: in Houston, went into the medical tent, was examined by

2123
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:30,600
Speaker 4: the NC as well as the Bill's owned medical staff,

2124
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 4: and was deemed fit to return to play. Did not

2125
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 4: suffer a concussion. There were no residual symptoms through the

2126
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 4: course of this week to indicate that one had occurred either.

2127
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 8: Also this too, this is a team that has sat

2128
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 8: Josh down before for an elbow. They set him down

2129
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 8: one other time. What other time did they set him down?

2130
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 8: I can't remember when they did.

2131
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 6: But he did not.

2132
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 4: Finish a game in twenty nineteen after he sustained a

2133
01:53:56,360 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 4: concussion against the Patriots, and he did pass through concussion

2134
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 4: protocol the following week and did not miss a game.

2135
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:08,920
Speaker 4: He missed the rest of that game against the Patriots,

2136
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 4: but not the game after it.

2137
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're not gonna when they're sitting there at three

2138
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:17,639
Speaker 8: and one and they gotta you know, they're sitting atop

2139
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 8: of the division. They're not gonna risk Josh's season for

2140
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:27,920
Speaker 8: finishing one game. And and it has been and Brownie,

2141
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 8: you can back me up on this.

2142
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 6: We've seen this.

2143
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 4: Point is they can't do that. That's just not how

2144
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 4: Sean McDermott, that's right anyway.

2145
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 8: That we've seen on multiple occasions, a guy when a

2146
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 8: guy that's right.

2147
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 6: We've seen it on multiple occasions when a guy that.

2148
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 4: To get on board there for a bit.

2149
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm sorry about that, Brownie. We've seen on multiple

2150
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 8: occasions this organization goes the extra mile making sure a

2151
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 8: guy's held. That's why I don't know that it's Shakir

2152
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 8: or Cook will be back in the lineup. Certainly Ed's

2153
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 8: not going to be back in the lineup. They are

2154
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 8: cautious with their players to a fault. That's why one

2155
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 8: of the things in the offseason when you hear guys

2156
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 8: go somewhere else and then come back. The word in

2157
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 8: the player's ranks around the National Football League is the

2158
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 8: Bills protect guys from themselves.

2159
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 6: You know this for a fact.

2160
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 8: They are not going to risk their meal ticket in

2161
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 8: Josh Allen by letting them play with a concussion. I

2162
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 8: got crucified on social media for saying what I said

2163
01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 8: about concussions and why guys come back from them and

2164
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 8: because they feel fine after it. There's none of that

2165
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 8: going on in this building. We've seen it time and

2166
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:44,800
Speaker 8: time forget concussions, everything, every injury. They treat these guys like.

2167
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 8: They don't treat them like rented mules. They treat them

2168
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 8: like prized cows. If you get the difference, you know

2169
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 8: what I mean.

2170
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 6: They are not beating these guys up.

2171
01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 8: They take care of these guys and as part of

2172
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 8: the reason their culture is as strong as it is.

2173
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:01,840
Speaker 6: So I get it.

2174
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 8: People think Josh pulled a to a Tongua by low

2175
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 8: and came back in the game when he was concussed,

2176
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 8: and he fought through it, and he didn't complete a

2177
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 8: pass the rest of the game. He'd barely completed one

2178
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 8: up to that point. There was no difference. So yeah,

2179
01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 8: I don't think. I don't think. I don't buy that

2180
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 8: for a minute.

2181
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:21,280
Speaker 6: I haven't. I don't have anything.

2182
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 4: As I said. As I said, it was confirmed not

2183
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 4: only at the team level, but at the league level,

2184
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 4: they reviewed it. Everything was buttoned up and to the letter. So,

2185
01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 4: end of story, right, as far as I'm concerned.

2186
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 8: Right, so and I and and it and it goes

2187
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 8: along in keeping with what we've seen them do in

2188
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 8: the past.

2189
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 4: Right.

2190
01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 6: They don't let guys do that, no matter who they are.

2191
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 4: Let's get back to the phones and to Jim in Florida. Next,

2192
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 4: what's up, Jim, oh boy?

2193
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 21: Where they can talk to you guys. I think the

2194
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 21: Bills will win if one Josh throws the ball within

2195
01:56:55,680 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 21: two seconds. Number two, we don't run the ball up

2196
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 21: the middle on every first down. And number three that

2197
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 21: Josh runs the ball more often. Now you say you're

2198
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 21: afraid of him getting hurt, but I think he gets

2199
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 21: hurt more trying to hold the ball for four or

2200
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 21: five seconds and get too long, and that's when he

2201
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:20,040
Speaker 21: gets hurt. So those are the three things I think

2202
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 21: will make the huge difference. He needs to get rid

2203
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 21: of the ball right away.

2204
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's two seconds is a little unrealistic.

2205
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:31,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's a quick case. Get what you mean,

2206
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 8: get rid of it, taking take a quick, easy completion

2207
01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 8: and move the chains. First down runs Brownie and Brownie's

2208
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 8: been pounding that drum all week. Twenty out of their

2209
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 8: last twenty six first downs, they've run the football. Some

2210
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:48,080
Speaker 8: of it's game related and game plan and situational, but nevertheless,

2211
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 8: you're right, I'm I'm with you. Do something other else,

2212
01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 8: do something else on first down in this game. And yeah,

2213
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 8: Josh's run game. I don't know if I want to

2214
01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 8: go back to the cold quarterback runs, but once in

2215
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 8: a while they make a defense buckle up. Yeah, So

2216
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 8: I'm all about it once in a while.

2217
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. And also, what we've seen against the Jets in

2218
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 4: particular is Josh out on the perimeter and he's got

2219
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 4: nothing but green grass in front of him, and instead

2220
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 4: he chucks it forty yards down the field against the Jets.

2221
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 4: Take the fifteen to twenty yards in front of you

2222
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 4: and move the sticks, because, as we know, the Jets

2223
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 4: make it supremely difficult for you to earn any yards

2224
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 4: on offense against their defense, which makes it a struggle.

2225
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 4: So if they're going to hand you ten for free,

2226
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 4: take those instead of maybe getting forty. Even if it

2227
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 4: take the shore ten and move the sticks.

2228
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:46,480
Speaker 8: It doesn't even have to be ten. Even if it's

2229
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:49,120
Speaker 8: five and it's a first down. You know, even if

2230
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 8: it's seven and it gets you to a second and

2231
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 8: a second and three, just take the positive yard, stay

2232
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:59,000
Speaker 8: on the field and put more pressure on the defense.

2233
01:58:59,080 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 6: That way, I.

2234
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:04,280
Speaker 8: Don't put the ball at risk in those situations. Just

2235
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 8: take it, slide in, take the first and move on.

2236
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 8: I'm totally with you, Brownie. We had caller and I

2237
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 8: can't remember who which caller was. We have a handful

2238
01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:15,840
Speaker 8: of regular callers, and he said, this is a maybe

2239
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:19,440
Speaker 8: it's Butcher from the east Side. It's a ten yard game.

2240
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 8: It's a ten yard game this season. Just move the

2241
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 8: sticks and get a touchdown at the end of it.

2242
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 8: Stay on the field somehow, some way, I think that's

2243
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 8: I think that's paramount in this game tonight.

2244
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, We've said it many times on our show. The

2245
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 4: NFL is about first downs, not touchdowns. College football, you

2246
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 4: have all these crazy plays and it's about highlight real

2247
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:45,160
Speaker 4: touchdowns and all that stuff. The NFL is a different game.

2248
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:47,840
Speaker 4: The NFL yards are hard to come by. It's about

2249
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:51,160
Speaker 4: first downs, not touchdowns. Back to the phones and to

2250
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 4: Patrick in Pennsylvania, what do you got for first Patrick?

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01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:57,720
Speaker 17: Hey, Chris, hey, Steve, thanks a lot for taking my call.

2252
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 17: I really appreciate that's been what you guys have to say. Uh, Basically,

2253
02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 17: what I wanted to bring up was a couple of

2254
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 17: personnel deficiencies on both sides of the ball that that

2255
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 17: I happen to see when I watched games and been

2256
02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:14,680
Speaker 17: that way for I don't know basically Alan's tenure. What

2257
02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 17: I have to say is that there's nobody on the

2258
02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:20,760
Speaker 17: offensive side of the ball to h to stretch the

2259
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 17: field and to press too high shelves, and they don't

2260
02:00:26,680 --> 02:00:29,680
Speaker 17: They don't seem to care about that either. They don't

2261
02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 17: target players such as that either I think a players

2262
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 17: like a Jamison Williams or a Rashid Shaheed or Xavier Worthy.

2263
02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:41,800
Speaker 17: You turn the TV on and every week they're hitting

2264
02:00:41,800 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 17: their head on the goalpost in the end zone and

2265
02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:48,960
Speaker 17: there's no easy button, quick quick stripes for us like that.

2266
02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 17: And the only person I can think too that Alan's

2267
02:00:52,280 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 17: ever really had like that is a is a John

2268
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:57,800
Speaker 17: Brown at the end of his career. And even then,

2269
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:00,000
Speaker 17: you know that was he was towards the tail end

2270
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:03,520
Speaker 17: of things. You know, it's uh, don't kincaid with a

2271
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 17: first round pass target that we that we targeted he's

2272
02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:10,680
Speaker 17: been an okay player for US. I'm not sure if

2273
02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 17: I totally see it all the time with him for

2274
02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 17: the eye test for a first round target, which you

2275
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:19,240
Speaker 17: expect from a first round playmaker. He's a good player,

2276
02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 17: but I think we've all expected a lot more from him.

2277
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:25,600
Speaker 17: He just doesn't offer those things. I would have loved

2278
02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 17: to see a trade up for a player like Brian

2279
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:30,880
Speaker 17: Thomas Junior or someone like that. You just you just

2280
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:33,360
Speaker 17: watch him on the TV, and they just stress defenses

2281
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:38,160
Speaker 17: so badly that it puts them in comfortable, uncomfortable positions,

2282
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:41,400
Speaker 17: whether it's laterally getting them in movement, even if they're

2283
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:45,280
Speaker 17: not getting the ball, it stresses the defense. And adversely

2284
02:01:45,320 --> 02:01:48,480
Speaker 17: on defense, I feel like we've always lacked a true

2285
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:51,840
Speaker 17: run stuff or up up the middle along the lines,

2286
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:56,040
Speaker 17: as like a Lean McNeil or Christian Barmore or Tovandre Sweat,

2287
02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:58,840
Speaker 17: even a real big body in the middle that can

2288
02:01:58,880 --> 02:02:03,600
Speaker 17: really take way runs on first and second down. And

2289
02:02:03,800 --> 02:02:06,400
Speaker 17: they seem to like that two hundred and ninety five

2290
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:10,080
Speaker 17: pound like three hundred and eighteen pound defensive tack well,

2291
02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:14,560
Speaker 17: which is okay, but it just seems to be something

2292
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:19,800
Speaker 17: that we've lacked basically since Allan's been our quarterback, and

2293
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:23,880
Speaker 17: it just seems like the staff doesn't care to target

2294
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:26,520
Speaker 17: these players, which you know, you went up. We win

2295
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:29,880
Speaker 17: a lot of games. We end up finishing decent, you know,

2296
02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:33,840
Speaker 17: in offensive metrics and what like that and whatnot. But

2297
02:02:34,680 --> 02:02:37,160
Speaker 17: Josh Allens, your quarterback, You're gonna have a few games

2298
02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:40,240
Speaker 17: to score thirty points every year. I'd like to make

2299
02:02:40,240 --> 02:02:42,600
Speaker 17: it a little easier on him sometimes. And I feel

2300
02:02:42,680 --> 02:02:45,360
Speaker 17: like we had that element to the offense. It would

2301
02:02:45,400 --> 02:02:47,760
Speaker 17: really open up a lot of stuff. But they just

2302
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:50,040
Speaker 17: really don't seem to care to target players like that.

2303
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 17: And I'm just curious to what you guys had to

2304
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:56,840
Speaker 17: say on both of those fronts, And if you could

2305
02:02:56,880 --> 02:02:58,680
Speaker 17: leave me on the phone to hear your response, I

2306
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:01,400
Speaker 17: would appreciate it. I don't always get to listen a lot. Yeah, sure,

2307
02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:05,160
Speaker 17: listening to what you guys have to say. I'll let

2308
02:03:05,160 --> 02:03:05,320
Speaker 17: you go.

2309
02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:06,160
Speaker 6: Thanks, Patrick.

2310
02:03:06,720 --> 02:03:09,880
Speaker 4: Yep, all right, which one do you want to take there, Steve,

2311
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:11,160
Speaker 4: one of those two.

2312
02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:12,640
Speaker 6: You start in and all take what's left over.

2313
02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:16,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I guess the first thing I'll say

2314
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:23,000
Speaker 4: is that they wanted to believe I think that Mark

2315
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:27,320
Speaker 4: Wes Valdez Scantling could give them that field stretching presence,

2316
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 4: but quite frankly, he doesn't play enough snaps in a

2317
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:37,640
Speaker 4: game to threaten a defense. In my estimation, that's number one.

2318
02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:40,280
Speaker 4: So I would tend to agree with you that a

2319
02:03:40,360 --> 02:03:43,000
Speaker 4: true field stretcher has not been on this roster, probably

2320
02:03:43,040 --> 02:03:49,160
Speaker 4: since John Brown. From a defensive perspective, the way this

2321
02:03:49,320 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 4: defense is schemed doesn't lend itself to having a three

2322
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty pound defensive tackle unless you can find

2323
02:03:57,080 --> 02:04:01,040
Speaker 4: a freakyzoid of an athlete at that size. They play

2324
02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:05,600
Speaker 4: an up the field penetrating style, so they don't want

2325
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:11,520
Speaker 4: three hundred and thirty plus pound stand and grind at

2326
02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:15,960
Speaker 4: the line defensive tackles. They don't believe it fits into

2327
02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:18,680
Speaker 4: the scheme that they play, which is a penetrating up

2328
02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 4: the field scheme. They would rather have a Daekwon Jones

2329
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:25,720
Speaker 4: at three twenty five who can have some measure of

2330
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:30,480
Speaker 4: impact in affecting the passer and pushing the pocket. So

2331
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:34,280
Speaker 4: it's a body type thing in terms of a fit

2332
02:04:34,680 --> 02:04:37,880
Speaker 4: for what they want their defensive linemen to do. I

2333
02:04:37,920 --> 02:04:41,080
Speaker 4: don't think they will ever have, you know, a three

2334
02:04:41,160 --> 02:04:44,280
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty plus pound guy because of how they

2335
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:48,800
Speaker 4: choose to have their defensive lineman play. On most snaps.

2336
02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:51,440
Speaker 8: You'll see too, they'll put a Remember they had Jordan

2337
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 8: Phillips who'd line up downsize, who's a massive body, Daikwan

2338
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:57,560
Speaker 8: Jones on the on the club. Now you'll have They'll

2339
02:04:57,600 --> 02:05:00,400
Speaker 8: pair a bigger body like that with an Ed Oliver

2340
02:05:01,040 --> 02:05:04,400
Speaker 8: or lighter guys so that the big body draws the

2341
02:05:04,440 --> 02:05:07,960
Speaker 8: double team and the light guy can pass rush. Basically,

2342
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:10,920
Speaker 8: even if it's a rundown that can penetrate, they want

2343
02:05:11,200 --> 02:05:13,200
Speaker 8: at least one of those defensive tackles to be on

2344
02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:15,200
Speaker 8: the other side of the line of scrimmage at the snap.

2345
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:17,120
Speaker 8: You know, they want them to explode through the gaps.

2346
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:20,640
Speaker 8: That's a philosophical thing, and you're right. When you get

2347
02:05:20,680 --> 02:05:24,880
Speaker 8: into a game like two weeks ago where the Baltimore

2348
02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:29,880
Speaker 8: Ravens you know, ran through them, it's pretty frustrating to watch.

2349
02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:32,960
Speaker 8: And that's one where you think, wow, you know, and

2350
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:34,600
Speaker 8: you're right. And we had we were talking about a

2351
02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:38,080
Speaker 8: five man front and I was talking about exaggerating their

2352
02:05:38,120 --> 02:05:39,280
Speaker 8: response to you.

2353
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:41,640
Speaker 6: Know, go goal line for crying out loud, what are you?

2354
02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:42,440
Speaker 6: What are you waiting?

2355
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Speaker 8: On do something to stop that interior off tackle run.

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Speaker 8: And they did not do that in the Baltimore game,

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Speaker 8: and I think they paid the price for it and

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02:05:52,280 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 8: made him look it made their personnel and their roster

2359
02:05:56,640 --> 02:06:00,960
Speaker 8: look vulnerable to that going forward, when in reality, there's

2360
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Speaker 8: not too many there's no other team that can do

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Speaker 8: that the way Baltimore can, so that they don't want

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Speaker 8: to change their roster to win that one game when

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Speaker 8: it will put them at risk of losing all the

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Speaker 8: others because their roster will be, you know, not able

2365
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Speaker 8: to play the way they want to play. I get

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Speaker 8: where you're saying. Yeah, and when you're on a two

2367
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Speaker 8: game losing streak, you don't feel like your players are

2368
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:29,600
Speaker 8: good enough all of a sudden, I'm not there yet. Certainly, yes, everybody,

2369
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Speaker 8: And I get it you. I get it from my

2370
02:06:31,320 --> 02:06:35,280
Speaker 8: buddies all the time. Xavier Worthy, Xavier Worthy, Xavier Worthy,

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Speaker 8: Xavier Worthy, all these guys that the Bills traded the

2372
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 8: pick for they got picked up, and everybody thinks that

2373
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Speaker 8: that guy he is he's a little to me, he's

2374
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:50,200
Speaker 8: a little bit of a one trick pony. And I

2375
02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:54,200
Speaker 8: think the Bills want guys who are more versatile than that,

2376
02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 8: I don't think the Bills. I think the Bills knew

2377
02:06:58,280 --> 02:07:01,960
Speaker 8: really all too good and well exactly who the Chiefs

2378
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:03,680
Speaker 8: were picking when they traded that pick, and they didn't

2379
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Speaker 8: want him. You can say, wow, Yes, he is a

2380
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:12,080
Speaker 8: good player. He's very fast and awesome, and he's playing

2381
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Speaker 8: with one of the greatest, the greatest quarterback in the

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Speaker 8: league today.

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Speaker 6: So give him a little bit of a bump on that.

2384
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Speaker 8: I don't think Xavier Worthy would be having quite that

2385
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:25,000
Speaker 8: kind of season if Jacksonville had drafted him, or if

2386
02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:30,000
Speaker 8: Philly had drafted him, or if the Giants had drafted him.

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Speaker 8: Give that a minute of thought and he might take

2388
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:35,680
Speaker 8: a deep breath on how important he would have been

2389
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Speaker 8: to our team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the only other thing I'll submit because he

2391
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:43,680
Speaker 4: mentioned Kincaid, who he thinks is a nice player. In

2392
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:48,440
Speaker 4: his rookie year, he broke the single season reception record

2393
02:07:48,840 --> 02:07:52,080
Speaker 4: for the team as a rookie with seventy three receptions.

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02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:57,200
Speaker 4: And here's the other thing. The Bills excel and player development,

2395
02:07:57,520 --> 02:08:00,480
Speaker 4: But a lot of times you don't see young players

2396
02:08:00,520 --> 02:08:04,560
Speaker 4: pop off on offense or defense in this scheme, usually

2397
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 4: until year three. Dawson Knox had a nine touchdown season

2398
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:14,080
Speaker 4: in his third year with the Bills. Spencer Brown played

2399
02:08:14,120 --> 02:08:17,200
Speaker 4: his best year in a Bill's uniform last year, his

2400
02:08:17,360 --> 02:08:22,000
Speaker 4: third season. Tarren Johnson became a household name in his

2401
02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:26,120
Speaker 4: third season. As about buf flow, Bill, I understand that

2402
02:08:26,360 --> 02:08:29,800
Speaker 4: people are like, where are the eleven catch one hundred

2403
02:08:29,800 --> 02:08:33,040
Speaker 4: and forty yard two touchdown performances from our first round

2404
02:08:33,040 --> 02:08:36,520
Speaker 4: tight end? Give it time, Give it time. That's all

2405
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:39,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, based on past history that we've seen

2406
02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:41,880
Speaker 4: with the development of players elsewhere. Let's go to Ryan

2407
02:08:41,920 --> 02:08:43,280
Speaker 4: in Toronto next. What's up?

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Speaker 11: Ryan Good?

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02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:49,360
Speaker 22: Steve Happy? On game day? Piece of the game. I

2410
02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:53,200
Speaker 22: think Tonto, those guys Josh cannot have a game how

2411
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:56,760
Speaker 22: he had last year on Money Football. I gave the

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02:08:56,840 --> 02:09:00,600
Speaker 22: Juts Colonel Old Battles and Josh god of at the ball.

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02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:03,840
Speaker 22: That's key. You know, how tough gets play against the

2414
02:09:03,880 --> 02:09:08,040
Speaker 22: Bills and gets defense a tough defense, and they got

2415
02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:09,960
Speaker 22: to protect the ball. That's the case the game.

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Speaker 21: I think.

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02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 6: I'll agree with that.

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02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:13,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, he certainly.

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02:09:14,080 --> 02:09:15,720
Speaker 6: I mean, let's think about it. Josh hasn't turned an

2420
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:16,800
Speaker 6: interception yet this year.

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Speaker 8: I mean that you're right, So that's I mean, I

2422
02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:23,240
Speaker 8: don't know that it's due, but that has been a

2423
02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:27,360
Speaker 8: huge difference in his game, and I don't know whether

2424
02:09:27,400 --> 02:09:29,400
Speaker 8: he's been maybe in the last couple of weeks, been

2425
02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:33,640
Speaker 8: too conservative with it, although he had a couple that were,

2426
02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:36,440
Speaker 8: you know, knockdowns that looked like they should have been intercepted.

2427
02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:40,920
Speaker 8: I'm with you if that's one thing we have been

2428
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:42,800
Speaker 8: able to hang our hats on this year that we

2429
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:44,560
Speaker 8: have not been able to hang our hats on in

2430
02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:48,280
Speaker 8: previous years, and that's Josh's ability not to turn the

2431
02:09:48,280 --> 02:09:50,440
Speaker 8: football over. Let's hope that stays right where it is

2432
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:54,040
Speaker 8: for now because the Jets have been have had a

2433
02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:56,680
Speaker 8: propensity to turn it over. If the Jets turn it

2434
02:09:56,720 --> 02:09:58,280
Speaker 8: over to the Bills and the Bills are plus two

2435
02:09:58,320 --> 02:10:00,960
Speaker 8: plus three in the turnover margin, the Bills will win

2436
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:01,480
Speaker 8: that game.

2437
02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty straightforward. We know how critical they are

2438
02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:09,880
Speaker 4: to the outcome of football games because Josh had four

2439
02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:13,200
Speaker 4: in Week one against the Jets on Monday Night Football

2440
02:10:13,320 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 4: last year, and the Jets were able to beat the

2441
02:10:17,080 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 4: Bills with Zach Wilson at quarterback and still needed a

2442
02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:24,520
Speaker 4: touchdown from special teams to do it in overtime. So

2443
02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:28,560
Speaker 4: let's just hope they can protect the football. Here tonight,

2444
02:10:28,960 --> 02:10:31,640
Speaker 4: gonna take a break. Here, got one segment to go.

2445
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Speaker 4: It's our Vision to Victory and it's coming your way.

2446
02:10:34,040 --> 02:10:36,280
Speaker 4: Next Here on one Bills Live presented by Colida Health,

2447
02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:53,280
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2448
02:10:53,360 --> 02:10:57,680
Speaker 4: the official ie care provider of the Buffalo Bills. Steve,

2449
02:10:57,720 --> 02:11:00,880
Speaker 4: We've mentioned probably several things that could qualify for the

2450
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 4: Vision to Victory. What's at the top of your list,

2451
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:03,720
Speaker 4: good sir.

2452
02:11:04,480 --> 02:11:07,440
Speaker 8: I think Josh Allen's completion percentage and if he doesn't

2453
02:11:07,480 --> 02:11:10,560
Speaker 8: turn it over and he completes, you know, his normal

2454
02:11:10,640 --> 02:11:14,160
Speaker 8: sixty five to seventy percent of his passes, Yeah, the

2455
02:11:14,200 --> 02:11:17,520
Speaker 8: Bills will win this game. That has not been happening

2456
02:11:17,640 --> 02:11:21,040
Speaker 8: over the last couple of weeks. I don't care by

2457
02:11:21,080 --> 02:11:23,800
Speaker 8: hook or crook. And he's got to extend plays. He's

2458
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:25,720
Speaker 8: got to stay open. I mean, he's got to stay

2459
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:29,280
Speaker 8: extend plays and keep it alive and keep the sticks moving.

2460
02:11:30,160 --> 02:11:31,440
Speaker 6: That's an absolute must.

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02:11:31,480 --> 02:11:34,520
Speaker 8: Certainly, turnovers are an important part of that, but I

2462
02:11:34,560 --> 02:11:37,240
Speaker 8: think it all comes down to Josh allen completion percentage

2463
02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:39,400
Speaker 8: and staying on the field, getting a lot of first downs.

2464
02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:44,000
Speaker 8: They've got to be successful of staying on the field.

2465
02:11:44,280 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 8: Otherwise there's just to give Aaron Rodgers and the and

2466
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:49,560
Speaker 8: the Jets offense too many chances to get on track.

2467
02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, make the smart play instead of the hero play,

2468
02:11:54,120 --> 02:11:57,040
Speaker 4: because more often than not, against the defense of this caliber,

2469
02:11:57,080 --> 02:11:58,440
Speaker 4: the hero play is not going to be there to

2470
02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:05,320
Speaker 4: be made anyway. Secondly, I think, to Eric woods Point,

2471
02:12:05,320 --> 02:12:07,440
Speaker 4: who we had on in the second hour of the show,

2472
02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:12,680
Speaker 4: receiving corp has got a beat man coverage and if

2473
02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:15,400
Speaker 4: you find out and that's not just on the receivers,

2474
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:17,920
Speaker 4: that's on Joe Brady to scheme some things up. We

2475
02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:21,280
Speaker 4: did not see hardly any rub routes last week to

2476
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:24,840
Speaker 4: try to facilitate beating man coverage. We didn't see. Well.

2477
02:12:24,880 --> 02:12:27,600
Speaker 4: We did see a couple of times players stacked at

2478
02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:31,600
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, but not often. There has to

2479
02:12:31,600 --> 02:12:32,920
Speaker 4: be more of that, and I think there has to

2480
02:12:32,960 --> 02:12:35,040
Speaker 4: be more pre snap motion. It is harder to achieve

2481
02:12:35,080 --> 02:12:38,360
Speaker 4: that on the road, but they got to do it.

2482
02:12:38,560 --> 02:12:40,720
Speaker 4: Find a way to do it so you can not

2483
02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:44,440
Speaker 4: only help your receiving corps but help your quarterback as

2484
02:12:44,440 --> 02:12:47,200
Speaker 4: to what is being thrown at you. By the Jets defense, because,

2485
02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:49,720
Speaker 4: as we know, pre stap motion helps provide a tell

2486
02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:52,919
Speaker 4: to the quarterback as to what's coming from the opposing defense,

2487
02:12:53,320 --> 02:12:55,120
Speaker 4: and you can set up a plan before the balls

2488
02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:55,800
Speaker 4: even snapped.

2489
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Speaker 8: And what's some of the stuff we saw early on

2490
02:12:57,600 --> 02:12:59,960
Speaker 8: when the running back was in motion or Curtis Samuel

2491
02:13:00,120 --> 02:13:02,600
Speaker 8: was in motion and they reverse their field, they get

2492
02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 8: the quick release, get the quick release on a swing pass.

2493
02:13:06,160 --> 02:13:08,120
Speaker 8: Josh hit them quick, and they're up the sideline for

2494
02:13:08,120 --> 02:13:10,120
Speaker 8: a nineteen yard gain. That kind of stuff at the

2495
02:13:10,200 --> 02:13:12,600
Speaker 8: early part of the game really put some pressure on

2496
02:13:13,080 --> 02:13:15,600
Speaker 8: the front seven of the defense. They're going to be garden,

2497
02:13:15,920 --> 02:13:18,480
Speaker 8: They'll have the running back, the tight ends and Manda

2498
02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:20,560
Speaker 8: Man coverage. The corners will be on the wide outs.

2499
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:23,840
Speaker 8: Get those bigger guy bodies on Manna Man mismatches and

2500
02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:27,040
Speaker 8: catch them trying to catch them in when they're flat

2501
02:13:27,040 --> 02:13:29,800
Speaker 8: footed and make them have to catch up to your receivers,

2502
02:13:29,800 --> 02:13:33,160
Speaker 8: your running backs, your tight ends. Certainly, I think that

2503
02:13:33,160 --> 02:13:35,160
Speaker 8: would really go a long way. Just get some easy

2504
02:13:35,200 --> 02:13:38,040
Speaker 8: completions and keep the chains moving early.

2505
02:13:37,880 --> 02:13:43,880
Speaker 4: On, obviously on the defensive side, slowing down what is

2506
02:13:43,960 --> 02:13:46,000
Speaker 4: going to be a renewed effort to run the football

2507
02:13:46,040 --> 02:13:48,440
Speaker 4: will help as well, because that will put the burden

2508
02:13:48,920 --> 02:13:51,720
Speaker 4: right back on Aaron Rodgers and then your pass rush

2509
02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:52,280
Speaker 4: can get home.

2510
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Aaron Rodgers is the key for my defense. Defensive

2511
02:13:57,000 --> 02:14:00,880
Speaker 8: game plan. You send extra guy almost everything. He's got

2512
02:14:00,920 --> 02:14:02,160
Speaker 8: to get rid of the ball or he's going to

2513
02:14:02,240 --> 02:14:04,560
Speaker 8: go down. He cannot extend the play with his legs

2514
02:14:04,760 --> 02:14:05,560
Speaker 8: like he once did.

2515
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Speaker 4: All right, I'll be on the Bills Radio network calling

2516
02:14:09,400 --> 02:14:11,680
Speaker 4: this game, so feel free to tune in there if

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Speaker 4: you don't have viewing capabilities. Steve and I will join

2518
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Speaker 4: you tomorrow for a one pm recap. We'll have dan

2519
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Speaker 4: Orlobski as well. We'll see you there. Enjoy the game.