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Speaker 1: Ron Ananian. So you've got to be organized, and I

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Speaker 1: guess that's what I really like to be, is that

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Speaker 1: you organized and functional in the shop, the Car Doctor

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Speaker 1: create another fault code. Oh, I don't know, unplugged the

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Speaker 1: to be smart enough to see a problem in another area.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian the Car Doctor,

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Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to

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Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics

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Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and

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Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am

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Speaker 1: here to take your call at eight five and now

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Speaker 1: he running. You know, I'm a little cranky today, so

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Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know that. Don't poke the bear.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I think a few

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Speaker 1: things crawled on nder my skin this week and we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens. And uh so where we go. It

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Speaker 1: was a it was a great week at the shop. Well,

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Speaker 1: actually it wasn't a you know, you know what it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm probably tired. Danny's out with COVID. Danny got COVID

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Speaker 1: on Monday, so I was working alone. So you know,

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Speaker 1: here's here, here's the old guy stepping up to the

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Speaker 1: crazy week. But I'm glad to be here. I really am.

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Speaker 1: I missed you guys last week. You know, last week

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Speaker 1: again today. You know, it was funny. I was driving

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Speaker 1: We went out to Pittsburgh last week. We were a

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Speaker 1: Right there by the there's a there's an amusement park.

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Speaker 1: I forget the name of the amusement park, but they're

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Speaker 1: it was really great. I really enjoyed it. It kind

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Speaker 1: I said, well those are mechanical. We can fix those two,

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Speaker 1: Are we still doing what we're supposed to be doing? Uh,

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Speaker 1: I heard my I heard my dad in my head

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Speaker 1: It was just a turn the key. Sometimes the dash

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Speaker 1: the world. The insurance company considered that they had already

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Speaker 1: it a theft. You know, I felt like Rocky in

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Speaker 1: like what are we doing. I didn't think it was stolen.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think it was stolen and think it was

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Speaker 1: a theft attempt. So I went through it. How would

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's bad. I went through a wiring diagram.

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Speaker 1: underhood fuse block that Fiends made power in. It was good.

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Speaker 1: We had power to the fuse block. I had power

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Speaker 1: Tell me what's good. I looked at G one. G

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Speaker 1: G three goes from the trans down to the radiator,

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Speaker 1: kind of followed it. It goes down here, and it

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Speaker 1: loops around and it comes over this way. Where'd it go?

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Speaker 1: long time customer, but first time I'd seen this vehicle

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Speaker 1: the transmount, which is on the transmission side of the transmount.

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Speaker 1: Because it's mounted on rubber. You wanted on the transmission

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Speaker 1: the electrons, and it went to the lower radiator support

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Speaker 1: a spot, reattached it. Car started, Hey, look at him? Fixed?

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Speaker 1: But you're not warm in any position, right, They're all cold.

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Speaker 1: to Kevin Oh five Chrystler three, Kevin Ron And at

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Speaker 1: How you doing your show? Every week? Thank you? Sir,

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Speaker 1: I have a five question. Three I didn't like. I said,

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Speaker 1: you fourteen seventeen? Kevin, Yeah, that that's a communication fault

424
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: on the network. So that means but he's not communicating

425
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: with it with with each other, whereas if a module

426
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: is down, Yeah, an oil change, I'll have them throw

427
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: it on the scan and do a full scan on it, right, Yeah,

428
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: and you want to do a full scan, uh you

429
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: know where And that's becoming part of the oil change

430
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: now becoming part of the general service. You know, somebody

431
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: comes in and I said this years ago, and I

432
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 1: I'm it's coming to fruition where people are coming in

433
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: and they want an oil change. You know, it's an

434
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: oil change in the checklist. The car is going to

435
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: college or wherever it's doing. Right, Um, any if it's

436
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: not and we're doing a scan, you know, the scan

437
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: becomes part of that. It's interesting to see the information

438
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: and a good shop is gonna be able to hand you.

439
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: And I always insist on this that you get a

440
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: copy of whatever they scan. You're paying for it. It's

441
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 1: it's like going to a doctor. You're entitled to it.

442
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: It's your information. Um, you know, at least to see

443
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: what's there. And uh, the interesting thing is it'll scary

444
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: sometimes because you'd be surprised that sometimes the scan tools

445
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: come up with wrong information to and uh, you know

446
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: you've got a week it happy listen, you know it's

447
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: not It's not cut and dry. Everybody says, you know, hey, Ron,

448
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: you know you've got the tool. You plug it in

449
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: and you'll tell me what's wrong. And I'll tell you

450
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: what the car thinks is wrong. That doesn't necessarily mean

451
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: that's what's wrong is wrong. Uh you know, it's yeah,

452
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: put you in. It puts you in the ballpark exactly. Uh,

453
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: you know. And then sometimes you get a car where

454
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: it'll tell you it's x y Z and it's really ABC.

455
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: You just have to eliminate the x y Z to

456
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: find out it's Everything is a little bit unique onto itself. So, um, yes, sir,

457
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: but that's where you're at. One of the questions go

458
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: ahead one of the question. When I got on the line, sure, yeah, ahead.

459
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: When I fill my gas tank up, if I let

460
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: it fill up to the point where it shuts off

461
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: by itself, when I go back on the highway, the

462
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 1: car box and it runs scrappy for a little while

463
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: and then it trains out runs fine, okay? Um? Any well, no, no,

464
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: check engine light on? Correct? No? All right? So um

465
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: and the check engine light works right you turn the

466
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: key to on without starting the car, you see a

467
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: check engine like, yeah, okay, so it works in bulb check. Um,

468
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: So you know what's going on. Is it's possible that?

469
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: And are you the original owner on the car? Kevin? Uh?

470
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: Second owner? Second owner? Has it? Has it? Okay? Has

471
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: it done it since newer? It's something that just developed lately.

472
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: M m, Well, it's done it since I've had it,

473
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: and I've had it for like seven years now. So

474
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, let's talk about that. If we want to

475
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: make the assumption dangerous word family Radio, that it's stumbling

476
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: related to the fill up. That means that fuel is

477
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 1: coming out the re circ line, going down to the

478
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: canister and coming up the purge line to get to

479
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: the engine all right, um in in English. All right,

480
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: So there's a gas tank, there's an engine. They run

481
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: fuel through the engine, but they can't let the fumes

482
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: from the gas tank vent out to the atmosphere, all right,

483
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: So they put a vent line from the tank to

484
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 1: the to a charcoal filter or charcoal canister, just like

485
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: the fish tank we had as a kid, And that's

486
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: what you know, will will contain and trap the fumes

487
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: and prevent it from going out the atmosphere, et cetera.

488
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: And then on the other side of the canister they

489
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: have a purge line, so it goes from tank to canister,

490
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: purge to the engine. All right, if we overfill the

491
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: tank enough, or if we have a bad canister or

492
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: a saturated canister, okay, then it's going to overload the canister.

493
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: And listen, I've I've seen cars stumble on a saturated

494
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: canister with bad charcoal just from vent, just from vented fumes.

495
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be liquid fuel, all right, um,

496
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: I've seen that. It's not impossible. It just becomes it's

497
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: just it's just an overdose of fuel. Trimp um uh

498
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: that it's coming up. But somehow something's coming up. The

499
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: purge line, and it's probably I already guess it's probably

500
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: three to five minutes after you fill up. Maybe yep, yeah,

501
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: So when that yeah, one time, go ahead. One time,

502
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: I I pulled into gas stage and I was talking

503
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: to a guy and I left my engine running, and

504
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: the guy actually took the gas cap off before I

505
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: took the engine off. And boy, what I messed that was?

506
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: It took a It took a good fifteen or twenty

507
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: miles before I ran right again. It wouldn't be right,

508
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: It wouldn't do anything right. So you've either got a

509
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: from the sounds of it, you've either got a contaminated

510
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: charcoal canister or an overloaded canister, a bad purge valve,

511
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: or a combination of the two. All right, Um, that's

512
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: something they could detect on a full skin. Also, well,

513
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: they'll at least tell you are there any fault, coach.

514
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: Here's what I'd really love to see, all right, I'd

515
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: really love to see the most important thing for you

516
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: here would be have all your monitors or self tests

517
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: run to completion. Hear me out, all right, If you're

518
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: the kind of person that always fills the tank and

519
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: always keeps the tank topped up, and I'm just making

520
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, explaining it this way. UM An

521
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: EVAP monitor, the evaporative emission self test on any car,

522
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: just about any car won't run if there's more than

523
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: three quarters of a tank of fuel or less than

524
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: a quarter tank of fuel. It likes to run in

525
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: the middle between quarter and three quarters. That's the sweet spot.

526
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: If if you're that proverbial person that either runs it

527
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 1: down empty all the time and throws in three dollars

528
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: a trip, or or it gets to quarter and you

529
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: keep filling it up, your EVAP monitor is never gonna run.

530
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: If if you're the person that has a half a

531
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: tank of fuel in the car all the time, but

532
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: all you do is drive three miles to the seven

533
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: eleven and pick up milk and go home, that EVAP

534
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: monitor is never gonna run. So the first thing I

535
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: want to do is I want to know is besides

536
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: are there no codes, is have all the monitors run?

537
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: Have all the self tests run all right? If they've

538
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 1: run and they're completed, there's no codes they passed. If

539
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: they show incomplete, it doesn't mean there's a failure. It

540
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: just means they didn't run. What was your worst subject

541
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: in high school? Cap? What was your worst subject in

542
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: high school? Okay? Math? Right? Math? Alright? Science? Did you

543
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: did you? Did you take every test they gave you?

544
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: Did you finish every test they gave you? Probably not? Right?

545
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: So those those were you're incomplete and then the test

546
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: you took and you probably failed a few unfortunately. Right, well, yeah,

547
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: so those are those are the ones when you took

548
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: the test and you completed it, but you still failed

549
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: that test. Is where the check engine light came on

550
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: because you ran the test. You failed the test. The

551
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: light came on. Go get a code scan. Start from

552
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: their brother. All right, keep me posted. All right, sounds great.

553
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Be well, by bye. I'm running any

554
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: in the car doctor. We're back right after this. Don't

555
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: go away the knock. She was there. She woke up

556
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: and took me by the hand. And yet man and

557
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: that's all nine with me. Welcome back running in the

558
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: car doctor. Here at eight zero zero. Yeah, there's a

559
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: phone number. Look at that time. I've been out a week.

560
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: I forgot. Let's go to Charlie and Maine. Let's talk

561
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: about all wheel drive. Charlie, Welcome to the car doctor. Well,

562
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: you guys are using all wheel drive, especially this time

563
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: of year. Now, well it does. It's a good cold

564
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: up here, kind of icy last night and all that.

565
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: But what I'd like to talk about, I'd have no

566
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: trouble with mine the vehicle at all. It's a Toyota

567
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: to eighteen highlander, runs fine. But when I think about it,

568
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: the audio industry is giving us a lot of all

569
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: wheel drives. Now, yes, it does have wintertime value. Now

570
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: let's go to Los Angeles, Arizona, all the southern states. Uh,

571
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: My point is, what's the point of driving an all

572
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: wheel drive which you have to use a little bit

573
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: more gas to run, and so forth and so on?

574
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: Rung what what? What do they do on a dry highway? What?

575
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: What's the big deal on a dry highway? Nothing? Um

576
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: in theory, the way they're tuned in, computer programmed on

577
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: a wet road. That's a different conversation. But yeah, I

578
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: get your point. It's it's funny, right, Charlie. Were we

579
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: seemed to be making a fit salt to cover everything

580
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: and some of the categories, and then we're making some

581
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: vehicles that shouldn't be in every category. And that's what's

582
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: being fed to us, like you got to use it

583
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: all the time. It doesn't make a lot of sense.

584
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: You know, I had I blew a tire on one mine, Okay,

585
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: and I go down, uh before it was around Riley's

586
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: in one of those places, and get a tie us

587
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: the guys what you gotta buy two? Well, I said,

588
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: the will the all wheel drive won't run right? He says,

589
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: it will be on the balance, So you gotta buy

590
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: two tires. So I bought four the stead of the two.

591
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Well, and usually, yeah, depending

592
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: on how badly out of diameter, there's a spec I

593
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: believe it's a two thirty or three thirty second tread

594
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: depth variation between tires. They want you to purchase four.

595
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: They want four equal diameter or within three thirty seconds

596
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: of each other tires on the vehicle. So all wheel

597
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: drive operation is considered to be it'll be, it'll be

598
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: correct and won't damage the vehicle. Uh so yeah, he's

599
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: not he's not wrong in that. Oh listen, and then

600
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: I always question. You know, we're here in North Jersey,

601
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: in Bergen County, New Jersey, We've got people in four

602
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: wheel drive. Everything under the sun, formattic Benzes and four

603
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: wheel drive suburbans and everything else. Nobody, nobody comes out.

604
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: And when it snows, and then when it snows, you know,

605
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: I think, you know, they put fifty tons of of

606
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: of chemical on the road to treat everything. The roads

607
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: turn white rought the cars and the snowplows come out,

608
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: and then and then we drive the car. So what's

609
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: the point why do we need all this? There is uh,

610
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's if you're looking for common sense, Charlie,

611
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't exist in a lot of places. Uh,

612
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, I listen, I go back to the day

613
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: when I remember there was a Chuck Norris movie. I

614
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: can't think of them, I can't. It was early Chuck Norris.

615
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: He he drove a blue Ford van and he went

616
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: to rescue his brother in some desert town. I just

617
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: remember that sort as a kid. That was the first

618
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: approach where I saw a real four wheel drive van

619
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, look at that four wheel drive

620
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: in a van? How great is that? And then nobody

621
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: ever uses them? Right, it's you know, it's the logic

622
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: of listen, I'll say this and then I'll let it go.

623
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: You know. The Ford transit, the van, the big van right,

624
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: remember for it had a van out. You might have

625
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: seen it. It It was called in a conto line. Kind

626
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: of looked the same, did the same thing. Full frame,

627
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: easier to work on, easier to lift, more, more affordable,

628
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: easier to take care of. I have a customer with

629
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: two for transit. He's a small plumber company. Every twenty

630
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: thousand miles breaks and tires no matter how he drives,

631
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: and they're not hard on the vehicles. So you know,

632
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: is it is it mass marketing or mass merch vizing?

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Speaker 1: Is there a difference, Charlie, I gotta go him up

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Speaker 1: against the clock. I appreciate the call. Thanks for tuning

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Speaker 1: in a period of man. You're very welcome, sir be well.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your thoughts. I'm RONDI in the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: We're back right after this welcome back round named the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Tom. I've been made. No, I don't mean

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Speaker 1: like that. I was. I have an email in front

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Speaker 1: of me from Fred. You know you're mad. No, I

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Speaker 1: was made. I have an email in front of me

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Speaker 1: from Fred in Altoona, Pennsylvania, and Fred writes in Ron,

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Speaker 1: was that you poking around my a t V and

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Speaker 1: my ram last weekend. I saw you and then you

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Speaker 1: got in the car and left. I swear to god,

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Speaker 1: I got an email from this guy to see what

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Speaker 1: happened was there was a group of them, they came in.

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Speaker 1: I stopped to get gas. A group of them came

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Speaker 1: in and they went inside the sheets, the sheets gas

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Speaker 1: station and al tuna is like to happen in social spot.

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Speaker 1: It really is. They were lined up for coffee and

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Speaker 1: doughnuts and eggs and it was great. And when I

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Speaker 1: walked outside and you know what, you're gonna get arrested

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Speaker 1: doing that. Well, but Tom, I was curious. It was

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Speaker 1: this really need a TV attached on a trailer? Um.

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Speaker 1: Fred says, he drives an eighteen m and me and

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Speaker 1: my whole group, Ray, Bob Jr. And Sarah wanted to

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Speaker 1: know if that was you were standing here listening in

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Speaker 1: the parking lot now and we're just very glad to

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Speaker 1: know that we almost sort of kind of met you. Well,

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Speaker 1: how do you like that? And Fred has a question. Wait,

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Speaker 1: there's the rest of the email here. When we get

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Speaker 1: down to the bottom. By the way, my a TV

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Speaker 1: is due for a battery. I hear talking about car

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Speaker 1: batteries all the time, you never mentioned a t V

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Speaker 1: s What can you tell me about an a TV battery?

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about an Optima because when you're out

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Speaker 1: on the trail, you're upside down sometimes, and I know

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Speaker 1: the dangers that that can pose for a vehicle battery

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Speaker 1: or an a TV battery. Fred writes, Um, yeah, Fred,

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Speaker 1: you know what You're right. Optima Batteries dot Com. As

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, for Fred, Ray, Bob's Junior and

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Speaker 1: Sarah Um Optima Batteries dot Com. Optima now has a

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Speaker 1: lithium battery. It's their orange top. It's new to the market. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's really kind of cool. It's getting great reviews, and

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Speaker 1: it's designed specifically for power sport vehicles like what you

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Speaker 1: guys were riving that day in the Sheets parking lot.

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Speaker 1: The next time i'm out that way, I want to ride.

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Speaker 1: Tom's not coming. I'm rotting any in the car, Doctor,

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Speaker 1: reminding you till the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you