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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Thursday, January ninth. Boy, it is a tough

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Speaker 2: time out here in Los Angeles. I know this audience

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Speaker 2: The fires raging decimated Pacific Palisades started to spread toward Brentwood,

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Speaker 2: several other neighborhoods, and as I'm recording this late on

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Speaker 2: their family members. It's brutal. I have friends who relocated

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Speaker 2: Oh man, it is it's brutal. And just hope everybody

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Speaker 2: And man, so many questions. How did it start? Why

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Speaker 2: and it's just a really rough time out here in

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Speaker 2: we got a college football playoff game tonight. We got

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Speaker 2: a great guest on today's podcast, Tim Brando, longtime college football,

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Speaker 2: college basketballnouncer. He's announced pretty much every sport under the

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Speaker 2: soun We got a great chat about college football, the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: They haven't been bad. I don't know why people are

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Speaker 2: And I say it in the in the interview, I'm

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a great game. I'm very

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Speaker 2: the Tim Brandow, I did think I should on the

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Speaker 2: heels of talking NBA yesterday at least touch on Cavs

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Speaker 2: one nine thunder one twenty two. This game was not

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Speaker 2: scheduled to be the ESPN game last night, and because

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Speaker 2: they are the number one teams in each conference, the

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Speaker 2: clip just aren't there yet. Zion's hurt for New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: He came back for one game. He sat out Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: You look around Philadelphia, Washington. That's not watchable. Nicks destroy

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Speaker 2: the hapless Raptors. You could have gone Webbin Yama versus Jannis.

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Speaker 2: They elected not to do that. The Bucks won fairly

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Speaker 2: did a good job picking Cleveland. Okay. See, and people

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Speaker 2: don't really want to believe this, but the Cleveland Cavs

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Speaker 2: They're thirty two and four, nineteen and one. At home,

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Speaker 2: they had seven guys in double figures. I mean this

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Speaker 2: this is a good team. I mean they've got bigs

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Speaker 2: It was a great game. I'm sure the rating was

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: listen live. You know, Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports. I know what sports

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Speaker 2: Let's just say, I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 2: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome back

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Speaker 2: You know him. He calls all the best games, college football,

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Speaker 2: college basketball. He's done it all in his illustrious career,

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Speaker 2: the great Tim Brando. Tim, how are you, my man?

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Speaker 3: Mister McIntyre. Good to be with you, and this is

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean it's you're all over college football

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Speaker 2: A lot of consternations so far about the playoff. Everybody's

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, the sample size is still only

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Speaker 3: I mean it's like, really, you're really upset that these

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Speaker 3: for straight games. Nobody says anything, but suddenly college football,

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Speaker 3: every game that's played in the postseason is like a

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Speaker 3: referendum on the entire sport. It's like, huh, Now, I

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Speaker 3: wanted the twelve team playoff, and I wanted to expand

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Speaker 3: I don't see any reason for buys. It would stop

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Speaker 3: all the moaning and groaning and gashing of teeth, and

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Speaker 3: it would stop putting some of my colleagues over at

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Speaker 3: more teams in. They'd all get in if we had sixteen.

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Speaker 3: So and I think it would be greater inventory, which

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Speaker 3: does what Jason, It makes more money. The more inventory

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Speaker 3: NCAA lost. Where's all that money coming from. It's coming

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Speaker 3: from television. So you need more money and it's up

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Speaker 3: It's the shortest season in sports period in this I mean,

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Speaker 3: for what players to be in school. Technically, they're still

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Speaker 2: It feels like you're lobbying to be the college football czar,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what targeting is, Tim, I don't

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Speaker 3: But the playoff, this move was historic. It's been I

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Speaker 2: Yeah or Tim, they get negative because they know that

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Speaker 3: he was going to stay with him no matter what. Uh.

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Speaker 3: And that's with the kid from California. It was a

431
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 3: five star recruit that's on the team. You know, Malachi's

432
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: really heavily thought of as a great talent and he's

433
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Speaker 3: going to be the future for them. But the bottom

434
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Speaker 3: line is, in my view, Notre Dame has an emotional

435
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: edge in this game because of the way they beat Georgia.

436
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 3: Georgia took Texas apart twice. As you know, Georgia had

437
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Speaker 3: one really bad game against Alabama, but when they had

438
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Speaker 3: to play big in the conference championship game, they did

439
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: it again. Inside the red zone, they stopped Texas. And

440
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 3: I think Texas is a lot better than Georgia, I

441
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Speaker 3: really do, but they beat him twice, so I think

442
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 3: Notre Dame's emotional edge coming into the game is probably better.

443
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 3: You know, the bio rhythms for me are a little

444
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: better for Notre Dame in this game. But it's a

445
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: Pickham game. I mean, it could go either way. In

446
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: my mind, Aller's a better thrower. I think Warren, the

447
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 3: tight end for Penn Steak, could be a real factor

448
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: if he's to day. He's a great tight end. He's

449
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 3: the best in the country. He is a difference maker

450
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Speaker 3: in the game. If they hold him to say, under

451
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty yards in receiving, that's gonna help

452
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: Notre Dame because he's going to be the focal point

453
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Speaker 3: of Al Golden's defense. It is trying to curtail what

454
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Speaker 3: the tight end does. But I think Riley Leonard's legs

455
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: and Jeremiah Love's big play capability. You know that running

456
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Speaker 3: back for Notre Dame, Jeremiah Love. He he went ninety

457
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 3: eight yards big time against Indianna right at the start

458
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 3: of that game. And then he did it again. He

459
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: had big runs that spearheaded to win last last week.

460
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Speaker 3: So I like Notre Dame by it just a little

461
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Speaker 3: bit in that game.

462
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Speaker 2: But by the way, if you do become the czar

463
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: of college football, you got to do something about these

464
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: injury reports every There's just so much fake, fake stuff

465
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, so Jeremiah Love is apparently a practice

466
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: with a brace and he's not practicing and nobody knows

467
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: if he's going to go. Is that gamesman ship? I

468
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: don't know. The kid Abdul Carter, the pass rusher for

469
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Speaker 2: Penn State, he got hurt in their last game. I mean,

470
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Speaker 2: he's like a top fifteen pick for sure, and now

471
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: he is a practice. But we're in the dark here.

472
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Speaker 2: You know, in the NFL, you gotta tell them, I

473
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: am curious. You always talk to coaches when you go

474
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Speaker 2: to these games. Penn State has two extra days to

475
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Speaker 2: prepare because they played on New Year's Eve and the

476
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: Penn State game was pushed back to I'm sorry, the

477
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame games back due to the tragedy in New Orleans.

478
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Speaker 2: How much of an edge do you think is two days?

479
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Speaker 3: I think it's important. I think it's really important, particularly

480
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: from an injury standpoint. Okay, beginning with that, but the

481
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: other factor. But you know a lot of times guys

482
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Speaker 3: will tell you though, you know what, the sooner we play,

483
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: the better. And Notre Dame, as I mentioned emotionally, was

484
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Speaker 3: coming off a greater high in my view than Penn

485
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Speaker 3: State in their game with Boise State, because they were,

486
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Speaker 3: you know, a big time double digit favorite and most

487
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: people expected them to win. But but I love James

488
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Speaker 3: Franklin's candor this week in preparation for the game, He's

489
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Speaker 3: talking about the big picture of the game. He's talking

490
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: about we need to have uniform schedules. He's almost sounding

491
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Speaker 3: like a potential ZAR candidate himself, which tells me he's

492
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Speaker 3: feeling really confident about his guys. Your point about the

493
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Speaker 3: injury is the injury situation is accurate. You know, the

494
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: Big ten instituted within league play. You know, you got

495
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: to come forward with lineups. We got to know who's available,

496
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Speaker 3: who's not available prior to the game. It's not so

497
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: much during the week, but prior to the game. We

498
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 3: need to know. Not every league is doing that, and

499
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: coaches play games with us on it. They just do

500
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: and they hold it over their sports information people a

501
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: lot of times. You know, I went through, you know,

502
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 3: came rising situation with Utah. I was a complete joke

503
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 3: last year, complete joke, and they continued to put him

504
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 3: on their depth chart every week as a starting quarterback.

505
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Speaker 3: And the guy didn't play all year. He's waiting out

506
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: for his I believe, ninth season the quarterback at Utah.

507
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: Something's got to be done about that. But the coaches

508
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: played too many games with it, so I agree with

509
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Speaker 3: you there.

510
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Speaker 2: One last question before we get to the next game

511
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Speaker 2: is I'm looking at my notes here and I got

512
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Speaker 2: a number. This is staggering. You know, gambling is a

513
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 2: thing now, we do it a lot on this podcast.

514
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: Penn State in their last seventeen games as an underdog

515
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: are one in sixteen. Yeah, so James Franklin not only

516
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: can he not beat the top five teams, but just

517
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Speaker 2: as an underdog when he he has to overcome something

518
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Speaker 2: or he's not expected to win that he doesn't deliver.

519
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: And I am just kidd there, a small underdog here

520
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: looks like one one and a half two to two

521
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: and a half hour in that neighborhood. Do you think

522
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: he can he can get the win here?

523
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Speaker 3: I mean, well, he's got more to prove for that

524
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: very stat that you just said right there. It's all

525
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: right in front of him. And there's been a history

526
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Speaker 3: of Penn State within the conference, you know, beating the

527
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: teams they're supposed to beat, yep, but not getting past Michigan,

528
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: not getting past Ohio State in the in the games.

529
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Speaker 3: It really mattered. Now you know, they were able to

530
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Speaker 3: rid themselves of some of that this past year, but

531
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Speaker 3: Michigan struggled until the very end of the year. And

532
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: by the way, speaking of twilight zones and what other

533
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: sport could Ohio State play that way right at home

534
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: in the in the rivalry game and then come out

535
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Speaker 3: and look the way they looked well as a big

536
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: behemoth that could win the whole thing this year. And

537
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: that's the way they look. But the bottom line is Freeman,

538
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: to my way of thinking, has far less pressure by

539
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Speaker 3: Notre Dame standards. That's saying a lot because as all

540
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 3: Notre Dame coaches that pressure. Brian Kelly got there a

541
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: couple of times and when he did, it was awful.

542
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Speaker 3: It didn't look good. And now Freeman, who's really a

543
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: player's guy. You know, you can see how much those

544
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: guys love playing for him. And when you get the

545
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Speaker 3: buy in from a transfer quarterback like Riley Leonard, this

546
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: is the thing that really intrigues me about him. He's

547
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: not as talented as Aler. I don't know that he'll

548
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: play it down at the next level. Out of Frankly,

549
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: don't give a damn whether he plays at the next level.

550
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 3: You know, the only time I get upset with you

551
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: and Colin is when I hear you talking about pro

552
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: prospects at the quarterback position in college. As a college guy,

553
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: I could give a damn whether the guy goes in

554
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Speaker 3: the top fifteen or if he does, it go to

555
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: on the fourth round. You know, I look at a

556
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: guy like dirt. The dirt that was thrown on so

557
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: many quarterbacks that, frankly were just they were only gifted

558
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: enough to be really good college quarterbacks, and they won

559
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 3: the national championships. Te Martin won a national title, Peyton

560
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: Manning didn't.

561
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Speaker 2: So it's college.

562
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Speaker 3: Those things happen. But to your point about that, the

563
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: sea on that chest, the sea on that shoulder bed

564
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: for Riley Leonard tells me that as a transfer he

565
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Speaker 3: not only engaged all the players at Notre Dame, but

566
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Speaker 3: they also bought into him. So this notion that these

567
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: guys are just coming in from the outside end and

568
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: really don't care about one another. No, the to the contrary,

569
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: transfer players that are getting some good nil money are

570
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Speaker 3: taking care of their offensive line. They're taking them out

571
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: to dinner, They're buying them some Rolex as if they

572
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 3: protect them. That's going on. I mean, these guys are

573
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Speaker 3: making a million, million and a half two million to

574
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Speaker 3: play quarterback at major schools. So I see a lot

575
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 3: of good that comes from that. It's not all bad.

576
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: And to me, the difference maker in this game could

577
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Speaker 3: likely be not because of his stats, not because of

578
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: his overall quarterback rating, but just the overall leadership of

579
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Speaker 3: Riley Leonard. I think that's why I'm gonna I'm gonna

580
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: pick Notre Dame to win that game by a field goal,

581
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Speaker 3: and I think the reason for it is because Leonard

582
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: is such a great leader and Freeman has his team

583
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball. Really buying in.

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587
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588
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Speaker 2: So let's get to Texas. Ohio state leadership a big

589
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: thing for you with Riley Leonard. I don't know if

590
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: many people are talking about this, but I think arch

591
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: Manning had zero snaps against Arizona State, which I was

592
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: stunned by that, especially when you're up twenty four to eight.

593
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: Like get arch Manning in the milk.

594
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: You know what that was? You know what that was?

595
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: That was Sark sending a message to the legions of

596
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: Texas fans that have been on his ass all year

597
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: about a package of plays for arch Manning. There's a

598
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Speaker 3: there's a hardheadedness to some college coaches, and Sark as

599
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: affable and as enjoyable as he is to talk to,

600
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: He's one of my favorites. You can you may dislike

601
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: some of you know his past, but I guarantee you

602
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: could not sit down for more than five minutes with

603
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: Steve Sarkisian and not automatically like the guy.

604
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: I wonder.

605
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: He's as good a guys you'll ever meet in coaching.

606
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you he was blistered with that all year.

607
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Ohio.

608
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: State fans are the hardest fans to please, no doubt

609
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 3: about it. But a close second is Texas? So close second?

610
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: Do you think? And again, you you deal with these coaches,

611
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: you know them, gamesmanship comes up a lot.

612
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

613
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: If I told you, hey, man, Texas is a double

614
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Speaker 2: digit favorite. I wonder if Sark thinks they're going to

615
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: waltz they're not going to use Arch because they're gonna

616
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: save the Arch package Ohio State when they're definitely gonna

617
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: need it in a much tougher game, and they didn't

618
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: want to, They didn't want to show arts because I

619
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: think Sark went in that that game confidence.

620
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Speaker 3: I believe that wholeheart. No, I believe that wholeheartedly. I

621
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: believe he knows against Ohio State that he better have

622
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: a package of plays for Arch manning because his round

623
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Speaker 3: game in and of itself, even though they had some

624
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Speaker 3: really good chunk yardage from time to time. Against Boise State,

625
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: they they were bigger, stronger, and faster just about every position.

626
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: That's not going to be the case here. You're talking

627
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: about the best roster and them and the highest paid

628
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: roster in the nil transfer portal era in Ohio State,

629
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Speaker 3: even greater than that of Texas. Who's their athletic director

630
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: Ross York. Where did he come from? Became from A

631
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Speaker 3: and M. They didn't have enough oil barons money at

632
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: A and M to keep him from spending the guys

633
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Speaker 3: with more money in Columbus, Ohio. So they've they've spent

634
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: more than even Texas has spent. Okay, and they've spent

635
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: two million on the backup at quarterback. So you can

636
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 3: bet that the package for arch Manning to run the

637
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 3: ball a time or two or three or four is

638
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: going to be there for the Ohio State game. No,

639
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: it's got to be. And I don't doubt for one

640
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: second that he thought in his mind. You know what,

641
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: I'm tired. I got to send a message to Quinn.

642
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: You ers, he's my guy. I know he's hearing this.

643
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: He needs to be reassured that he's my guy. And

644
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: I think that's what why he did that and why

645
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 3: he kept him in the game for as long as

646
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Speaker 3: he did.

647
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you. You mentioned the backup quarterbacks getting one

648
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: or two million whatever Jeremiah Smith's getting, He's probably underpaid.

649
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: And you know, Tim Mike, I can tell you right now.

650
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now what this college football storyline

651
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: is come August. Is Jeremiah Smith the greatest wide receiver

652
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: in college football history because what he's done as a

653
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: freshman and the way he looks, the body, the speed

654
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: like I mean, he's Calvin Johnson meets Randy Moss. I

655
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: don't know. This tis to maybe not be there all time,

656
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: but I don't know if I've ever seen someone so

657
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: dominant as a true Is he a true freshman or

658
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: red erp freshman?

659
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: I think he's a I think he's a true freshman. Yeah, yeah,

660
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure freshman. I didn't have him this year.

661
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: Gus and Joel got all the Ohio State game, that's

662
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: for smid. I did get Michigan, and I did get

663
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: a few other Big Ten teams, but I didn't get

664
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Speaker 3: ohow State. The thing about this, this particular team that

665
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: the Buckeyes have that I think is going to create

666
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: trouble for Texas is that linebacking corps and the way

667
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: Jim Knowles calls defenses. And he's really acquainted with Texas

668
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 3: having defended them when he was at Oklahoma State all

669
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: those years with Mike Gundy. If you're wondering why Oklahoma

670
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: State fell, you know, off the cliff this past year,

671
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 3: it's because now they're two years without Jim Knowles as

672
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 3: their defensive coordinator. You know, they were a one loss

673
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: team that won twelve games and should have been in

674
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: the playoff and lost at the goal line, a big

675
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: twelve championship championship opportunity a couple of years back. Knowles

676
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: is really good, and it took him some time. We

677
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: did have the buck guys a couple of years ago,

678
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: and Knowles doesn't have those big, brawny linebackers. He takes

679
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: safeties a little bit like Saban's struggles at Alabama before

680
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: he understood you needed to have hybrid safeties playing outside linebacker. Well,

681
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: that's kind of what he inherited at Ohio State, and

682
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: he couldn't play the same defense as effectively in his

683
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: first year because he didn't have the right guys. Now

684
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: he's got the right guys. Now, Sawyer, the guy in

685
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: the middle, he's the meathead that's got He's a big

686
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: time big stick, you know, old school Randy grantishar kind

687
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: of Ohio State defensive linebacker. But the other guys that

688
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: have all got incredible speed. They're basically hybrid safeties. They

689
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: could play almost any position, so their sideline to sideline

690
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: speed is tremendous. And that's why I think Texas's run

691
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: game is going to have trouble with out arch manning.

692
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: I think if you're trying to run a you're trying

693
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: to run a stretch play and get your running back

694
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 3: to cut it back up, or if you're trying to

695
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: run a Jets suite, they've got no problem defending that.

696
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: You've got to attack Ohio State vertically. You can't go

697
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: horizontally against them. Now that said, yours is good enough,

698
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: those receivers are good enough at Texas to make big plays.

699
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: I think this is going to be an explosive game.

700
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: I think Texas has the best shot of any of

701
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: the teams left to beat Ohio State because of their

702
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: vertical passing ens. But they've got to get the protection

703
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: necessary for yours to do that, and Knowles is a

704
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 3: guy that will come with exotic blitz packages, zone blitz,

705
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 3: exotic blitz packages, somewhat like Saban when he came into

706
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: college football. That can really cause trouble for a quarterback.

707
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: So that's the thing to watch out for. Texas has

708
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: a chance, and I think they're the only team that

709
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: can beat Ohio State of the four that's left. Of

710
00:37:59,080 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 3: the three that are left.

711
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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting you mentioned that about the defensive

712
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 2: coordinator because I remember that Oregon game the first meeting,

713
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: and it looked like they played a lot of press

714
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: man coverage and their corners were just getting roasted. It

715
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: was just big play after big play, and some Ohio

716
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: State buddies I got are just like we gotta get

717
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: I mean, we're getting cooked on the on the big plays.

718
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: I went in there the very next week after that

719
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: Oregon game. It was two years ago. Spencer Tilder and

720
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: I went in to do the game, and that you

721
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: would have thought they were on death March in Columbus.

722
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: You were repressed.

723
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: But apparently Nol's pivoted to a cup more of a

724
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: cover two look where they don't give up it plays

725
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: anymore and then you think back to the last game

726
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: and you're like, shit, Oregon could I mean, they had

727
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: one explosive play I think over thirty yards to get

728
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: in the earlier meeting, they're like five or six. And

729
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: it looked like Gabriel, who was amazing all season, was

730
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: so confused him. I think he got sacked eight times. Yeah,

731
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: and he got sacked zero times in the early room.

732
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: It was just a totally different game plan and Oregon

733
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: looked overwhelmed.

734
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other thing that happened. And this is

735
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: what's going to be so bizarre about next year. I

736
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: can't wait for next year because as great as the

737
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: postseason has been with the twelve teams, and they, as

738
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 3: I said, I think they may morph to fourteen before

739
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: they morphed to sixteen. I hope they just go directly

740
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: to sixteen by twenty six. But what made this season

741
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: so much better was the really level of parody that

742
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 3: extended throughout college football, where you really didn't know who

743
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: might win in a certain game. The big Kahunas and

744
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: the blue bloods are still who they are, but they're

745
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: all more susceptible to losing because they've lost players in

746
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: nil to other teams who because they want to play,

747
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: they want to go someplace where they can get some

748
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: star power themselves, have some balls either thrown their way

749
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: or some handoffs that allow them to run the football

750
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: a little more. And that has leveled out the playing

751
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: field enough that we've got great games. Can you imagine

752
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: Michigan who was able to steal the number one recruit

753
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: out from underneath LSU at quarterback. Oh, because the kid

754
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 3: was from Michigan. Portanoy comes up with three million a

755
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: year to pay this kid to come right, and now

756
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: he's got to be quarterback in Michigan against Ohio State

757
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: next year. And oh, by the way, Michigan still won

758
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: for in a row against them. No, Ryan Days, great,

759
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: Ryan Day, in my opinion, will win the national title.

760
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 3: I think Ohio State.

761
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: Is gonna wait, let me ask you on Ryan.

762
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: He still hasn't beaten Michigan.

763
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: Come on, it's silly. I don't think Franklin is a

764
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 2: potential NFL guy, but I wonder if Ryan Day does

765
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: win the championship, he could be Do you think he

766
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: considers man, I don't need this nonsense. I just won

767
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 2: a national championship and I got these idiots on message boards,

768
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: but we can't beat Michigan. And it's just like, would

769
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: Ryan Day do you think consider going to the NFL?

770
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Speaker 3: I think he would, and I think Chip would go

771
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 3: with it. Oh, I think Chip would go with him. Yeah,

772
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: those two guys are connected at the hip. Now. Yeah,

773
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: remember Ryan was his quarterback at New Hamph and so

774
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: they go way way back. And trust me when I

775
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 3: tell you, not only did Ryan feel it, but Chip

776
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 3: did too. You know, in the aftermath of the Michigan game,

777
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: that was a poorly called game. I mean Chip had

778
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: a bad game. Ryan had a really bad game, and

779
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 3: I think that the Grimlins what this notion. I think

780
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: they felt like, you know what, we're being told we're

781
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 3: not tough enough, so we're going to prove that we

782
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: are absolutely as tough as Michigan. And as a result,

783
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: they played right into the hands of Michigan, and Martindale

784
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 3: feasted on that. The defensive coordinator from Michigan had. The

785
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: strength of his team was his defensive front. He had

786
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: two first round picks right in the middle of that defense,

787
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: and the linebackers were pretty good too. They took the

788
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: one on ones and they really took Jeremiah Smith completely

789
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: out of their game plan and lost as a result,

790
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: but the blowback was so significant. Okay, Ohio State and

791
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: Columbus in general love going there, but the fan base

792
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: is really a pro base. You know, they're right there

793
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: between Cincinnati and Cleveland. And when you look at the crowd,

794
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 3: the size of the city is, of course larger than Cincinnati,

795
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: and the press there treat Ohio State like a pro franchise.

796
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: Oh heck, not like a college down it's not. And

797
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: when you go to one of their games, and I've

798
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: had three assignments there in the time that I've been

799
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: at Fox, and they've been prohibited favorites of the game,

800
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: and it's almost as if the crowd is waiting on

801
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: them to do anything that they might hear about. It

802
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: would remind me of a North Carolina basketball crowd. When

803
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: Dean Smith just got the Dean Dom going, it was like,

804
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 3: we expect you to win. Now. Show is something. Okay,

805
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 3: or Texas Stadium when the Cowboys first got into Irving,

806
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: and it was like it just we're accustomed to you

807
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: guys being an America's team. Now do something to me.

808
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: And I think that because of that, whether you're Ryan

809
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: Day or your Chip Kelly, you're thinking, why not get

810
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 3: ahead of the posse?

811
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: Uh?

812
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: Did you see what Harbon just did? That looks pretty

813
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: good to me. He just went out to La. He's

814
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: turned that baby around. They're a playoff team. Now we

815
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about the things we have to

816
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: worry about here in Columbus. Is the chance there that

817
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: he would go pro realistic? I think it is.

818
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: I mean, what about Uh? You know that there isn't

819
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: like Bears Bears job, Okay, Raiders job, but the Jags

820
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: have a quarterback. Uh, that's that's interesting. The idea of

821
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: Ryan Day and Chip Kelly is some package deal to

822
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: the NFL. I guess we could wrap up on this.

823
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: You know.

824
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 2: Overall, Tim, I would say I I largely think Ohio

825
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: State is probably the team to beat their favorite. Obviously,

826
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: but if two Big ten, if Penn State won and

827
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: they met Ohio State for the national championship, what do

828
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: you do you think there will be an outcry from

829
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: SEC country. Oh, we're not going to pay attention. This

830
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: is a Big ten nons I like cause that's in play,

831
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: and I do think that the SEC fans are upset

832
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: that teams got to bounce and By the way, if

833
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: that targeting call holds, there's no SEC team in the

834
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: final four.

835
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 3: No, yeah, absolutely. And by the way, as a a

836
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: guy born and raised in Louisiana that has daughters that

837
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: went to LSU and Ole Miss, I can tell you

838
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: that it is part of the culture to such a

839
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 3: point that you'll drive them absolutely out of their minds

840
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: if you say something as objective as this, which I

841
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: have recently. College basketball, the SEC is by far and

842
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: away the dominant league. College football they're not this year. Boy,

843
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 3: that pisses them off. Oh you talk about oh my god.

844
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: They can't see anything being positive about basketball being a

845
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: numeral uno. But you're telling me that football were not.

846
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: That's shameful. You know, Brando, you just lost your SEC card.

847
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: You're now officially a Fox guy and a Benedict Arnold

848
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 3: to our our league. Wait wait, they get on me quickly. Wait.

849
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 2: Tim, So you get this on social media. But I

850
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: am curious in SEC country, will people come up to

851
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: you and say stuff?

852
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: Sure in airports, in airports like really negative, I get

853
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: mostly good, mostly good. Mostly it's boy, we sure do

854
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: miss you in the SEC, Timmy, Mostly it's that, But

855
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: on occasion and especially in social media. Brando, you're just

856
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: trying to stay relevant.

857
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, social media, Yeah, warriors, Give me a break.

858
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: Those guys acted tough.

859
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: But I do think, I do think that certain programs.

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Speaker 3: You can't look at college football now through the prism

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Speaker 3: of conference versus conference. And I think that's been proven

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Speaker 3: by the way teams like Boise State have played teams

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Speaker 3: like Arizona State, who is new to I mean, think

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Speaker 3: about it. This is a program that was mired in

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Speaker 3: NCAA issues when Herman when he left for Herman Edwards

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Speaker 3: left and here's Dillingham who gets the job at age

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Speaker 3: thirty two. Last year, I got Caleb Williams going in

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Speaker 3: to play USC. He down to a fourth quarterback because

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Speaker 3: all of them were injured, and hell, James cam Skataboo

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Speaker 3: put on a show that night, and I think served

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Speaker 3: USC notice that they were in trouble because they only

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Speaker 3: lost that game by about eight points because of Statuvou.

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Speaker 3: And even though they had a losing season that year,

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Speaker 3: look at the jump they made this year. So you

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Speaker 3: can't look at college football now and it's power structure

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Speaker 3: any longer is conference versus conference in power It's a

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Speaker 3: matchup thing. It's about team versus team who matches up okay,

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Speaker 3: And that's what I love about these these two games

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Speaker 3: coming up this week. Notre Dame. It's a hell of

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Speaker 3: a matchup. You know, it's really strength on strength. Both

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Speaker 3: of them do the same things pretty well. You have

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Speaker 3: a slide edge in passing to Penn State, slide edge

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Speaker 3: and running and special teams and in tangibles to Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Ohio State Texas only team I think in this field

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Speaker 3: that can go mano amano for scoring offensively because of

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Speaker 3: their personnel with Ohio State is Texas and yours and yours,

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Speaker 3: even with the injuries, Yours is a big time talent.

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Speaker 3: He's still high on everyone's list, even though he's had

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Speaker 3: the injured knee. I think he's still going to have

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Speaker 3: a future. And you know, that's the only thing that

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Speaker 3: is a little bit of an issue for Sark is

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Speaker 3: that he's he needs to know that yours knows that

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Speaker 3: he's okay. And that's why this whole arch manning thing

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Speaker 3: has been sort of a political football for him off

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Speaker 3: the field. But make no doubt they've got the personnel

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Speaker 3: on offense to score with Ohio State. So I think

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Speaker 3: We're going to get a shootout in an old fashioned

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Speaker 3: you know, go get power football game, just power football

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Speaker 3: between Penn State and Notre Dame. First one to first,

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Speaker 3: one to twenty one wins that beast game and the

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Speaker 3: next game I think I think the next game is

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Speaker 3: going to be an over. It's an over, not an undergame.

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Speaker 3: And the first one to forty wins. I think it

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Speaker 3: may take forty points in that game.

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Speaker 2: I'll say first seventeen wins in the end. State, Tim Brando,

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Speaker 2: great stuff, Love you announcing just a great voice, college basketball,

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Speaker 2: college football, great career. Thanks again and enjoy the gamest him.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Jason. Good to be with you and give

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Speaker 3: my best to college