WEBVTT - Conversations with Aurora Culpo

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<v Speaker 1>This is Conversationous with Olivia Jade in My Heart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, it's Olivia Jade. Welcome back to another episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Conversations Today. I have a special guest and it

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<v Speaker 1>is the lovely miss Aurora Cupo. And you guys might

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<v Speaker 1>be familiar with her through Instagram. I know that I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen her Instagram a bunch. She's a mom of two

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<v Speaker 1>and I just want to hear her story. You might

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<v Speaker 1>be familiar with some of her family members, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want you guys to get to know her specifically. So

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<v Speaker 1>with that all being said, please welcome Alora. Hello, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for coming on the podcast. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>excited to have you. Thank you for having me. Course,

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<v Speaker 1>So do you want to like just kind of intro

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<v Speaker 1>yourself a little bit. I know you're from Rhode Island.

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<v Speaker 1>I did my research a little bit, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>two babies, right have two babies. One of them is

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<v Speaker 1>currently screaming in her crib, and I like have like

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<v Speaker 1>that like mom guilt in my heart right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's good for her to like learn how to put

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<v Speaker 1>herself to sleep. She should know how to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just eighteen months now. But anyway. Yeah, so this

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<v Speaker 1>question is so funny because it's like I was I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I practiced this question of like who are

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<v Speaker 1>you and it's like, oh my god, how much time

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<v Speaker 1>do you have? Like so like so originally I am

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<v Speaker 1>from Rhode Island. I was in UM the education industry

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. I have master's degree in early

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<v Speaker 1>childhood education. I was a teacher that I worked with

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<v Speaker 1>kids with autism. UM. I was a behavior analyst, so

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<v Speaker 1>I learned a lot about how to like shape behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>which is funny because now I'm a mom of two

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<v Speaker 1>kids and like, I use none of that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever apply anything that I've learned, and I know to

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<v Speaker 1>be true UM with my own kids. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>they scream and I give them a lollipop, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that. But sometimes it's just like survival. But um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I moved to UM. I moved to l A

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<v Speaker 1>because I met my husband and now we have two kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of like fell into this UM this

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<v Speaker 1>like influencer role that I don't know. I'm like still

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<v Speaker 1>kind of embarrassed you, like I'm an influencer. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's gotten a bad rap even though I do

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there's something I really enjoy connecting with people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I tend to be a little like t M

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<v Speaker 1>I about mom life and mental health and I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>wellness guru, but I'm also like a complete yo yo

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<v Speaker 1>where I'll just like party hard and then be like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm only drinking green juice, you know that last three days.

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<v Speaker 1>But but so yeah, there's a lot of there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of characters I've played. I was a yoga instructor,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm into meditation. I read that online. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you never know what you're reading if

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<v Speaker 1>it's true or not. And I saw that said something

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<v Speaker 1>about fitness and how you're really into yoga, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like writing it down, I was like, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if this is even true. If I'm gonna ask this

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<v Speaker 1>question just because like is it true now? Now? I

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<v Speaker 1>do you. I still do yoga all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I find it to be one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>really grounds me in my life, um you know, crazy times,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially you know, like just making yourself vulnerable to

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<v Speaker 1>all the opinions of other people on the internet, like

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<v Speaker 1>that you need to really have not even have thick skin,

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<v Speaker 1>but just like have a heightened sense of like awareness

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<v Speaker 1>of like your own worth. And so for me, like

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<v Speaker 1>my grounding is is really like physical, like I I

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<v Speaker 1>go to yoga, I do my workouts. Um, but I

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<v Speaker 1>also have two sisters and I'm super close with and

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<v Speaker 1>we do a lot of um work together. Like we

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of exciting things coming up that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been I'm not allowed to talk about right now, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like my management is like always nervous getting me

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<v Speaker 1>on podcasts because well, I'm just like I am, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like t M I but but yeah, so so we're creating.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a lot of things going on together as sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>But then individually, I'm I'm starting a website. Um, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a writer, so I'm writing a lot about just like

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<v Speaker 1>basically mom acts, personal struggles with like postpartum anxiety and

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<v Speaker 1>depression and things. Just I don't like to call myself

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<v Speaker 1>an expert in anything, but I'm I'm an expert in

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<v Speaker 1>being honest and sharing personal experiences, which I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>helps so much more than you even realize. Because for

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<v Speaker 1>me too, it's like all like be on this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and have certain guests and then I walk away, or

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<v Speaker 1>if a YouTube video goes up and I'm like, is

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<v Speaker 1>that boring to people? Even like that? And then the

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<v Speaker 1>response of you just being like open and honest can help,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's just a few young girls or moms

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<v Speaker 1>going through something similar or something like that. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy how much of an impact it can actually

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<v Speaker 1>have and you don't even realize it. I know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I think I'm a little like hard on myself

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<v Speaker 1>and like just like that question like who are you

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<v Speaker 1>and what do you do? I'm like, what do I say?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what do you am? I what do I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of people, it's easy for them because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm like, I'm a talent manager. I mean this,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that. But it's like when you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>wear a lot of different hats and you and your

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<v Speaker 1>thing is just being open and being like like a

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<v Speaker 1>source for other people to kind of like to learn

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<v Speaker 1>from your mistakes and things you've done. Like doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>have a title, like not traditional, especially now with social media,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like so normal, Like to me, I think of

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<v Speaker 1>it like influencers, like a category. Obviously, I agree, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that word has been I think not even just

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't think it's bad. I just think it's

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<v Speaker 1>overused to the point where it's like what are you influencing?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, and like what's your purpose? And then it

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<v Speaker 1>is it just to like I was talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody recently, I'm like, I love I love what

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<v Speaker 1>I do and I started my YouTube when I was

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<v Speaker 1>so young and I enjoy it so much. But also

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<v Speaker 1>it's like there's a level of embarrassment now where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>am I just do people just think I'm doing this

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<v Speaker 1>because I want like followers in an easy job? Or

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<v Speaker 1>do people see that this is something I'm passionate about, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But like like, oh you it sounds it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing this for attention, Like that's something like I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard before two or like you know I've gotten in

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<v Speaker 1>my d M s And it's like, yeah, you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like as a human being, like we seek connection with

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<v Speaker 1>other people who seek to be seen and to be

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<v Speaker 1>like heard and validated, and especially if like you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like earlier in your life and your childhood, maybe weren't

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<v Speaker 1>always seen for who you were. Like to have a platform,

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to to be to see yourself, to

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<v Speaker 1>have other people see themselves in you, and to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you've made a positive impact on people. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's like it's been hugely like healing for me

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways. And also it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>huge growth experience. Like what I've learned is like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to be an expert in order to like

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<v Speaker 1>speak on a topic. You know, so and do you

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<v Speaker 1>think like because you're both your sisters. I know Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>just from like years of just like going out and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing her around and she's lovelier. And then you have

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<v Speaker 1>another sister too, So yeah, is that correct? Do they?

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<v Speaker 1>I know Olivia influences or whatever we're want to call it,

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<v Speaker 1>but not like you to call her that. Wait, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I take it back, Olivia. I'm so sorry. But does

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<v Speaker 1>Sophia also do Instagram and that whole vibe? She's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we we make fun of her all the time

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<v Speaker 1>because she kind of like she went to she has

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<v Speaker 1>a degree for Boston University in nutrition and public health,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she kind of was like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't know what your experience was like

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<v Speaker 1>after you after college or whatever, but when for me

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<v Speaker 1>it was like you you think you're going to graduate

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<v Speaker 1>and get like a great jobs, like no, you're living

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<v Speaker 1>in Squalor. For a lot of that was my experience.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just like trying to figure out what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and you're just like still heavily relying on

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<v Speaker 1>my parents. At least I was. But for Sophie, we

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<v Speaker 1>make fun of her because she like she literally walked

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<v Speaker 1>out of college and then was like, oh, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go live with Olivia. Actually, like she's got a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing going on over there. She's just like completely writing

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<v Speaker 1>out her coattails. But it's like work smart, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do you do you You take advantage of the

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<v Speaker 1>cards that you have that you're dealt and if you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're stupid, you know. And it's not like it's

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<v Speaker 1>been easy for her. It's like just as hard to

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<v Speaker 1>try to make something for yourself when you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you have something already set in stone, like for for

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<v Speaker 1>for me and Sophie, it's been a little bit like

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<v Speaker 1>of a an interesting situation because Olivia has been established

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<v Speaker 1>and she's done a lot, you know, like cover Sports,

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<v Speaker 1>Illustrated all that, and it's like I hate when people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, oh, you're Olivia's sister, right, It's like, no, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>she's my sister. I'm older and she is the way

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<v Speaker 1>she is. That's how my sister feels to like exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody ever says to my sister if we're out

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<v Speaker 1>of like an event or a party, like oh you're

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia's ironically same name, but like, oh you're Olivia's sister,

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, my name is Bella and it's really nice

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you. But I relate to that too, just

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<v Speaker 1>having like a mom that's an actress, like growing up

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<v Speaker 1>and every every thing that's ever written about me or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Lorie Laughlin's daughter, which I get, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a fact, sure, but also it's like you do want

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<v Speaker 1>to be recognized for your own, your own thing and

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<v Speaker 1>like being your own person. I thought it was so

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<v Speaker 1>interesting too. I was justin, this is so random. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was just in Paris for fashion week and I

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<v Speaker 1>was at a party and somebody introduced their friend and

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<v Speaker 1>the person they were introducing me to has a very

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<v Speaker 1>famous dad, and they were like, this is so and

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<v Speaker 1>so son, and I literally looked at them and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what's his name? Like why do you like that?

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody did that to me, I know, And the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is it's like, yes, we've all gotten. Everybody who's

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<v Speaker 1>created any success for themselves has had certain strikes of

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<v Speaker 1>luck or like a leg up in one way, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you either hop on that opportunity and create

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<v Speaker 1>something for yourself out of it, or you can be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's you can shy away from it and

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<v Speaker 1>like either you there is fine. But I just I

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem with people being like, oh, she's only

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<v Speaker 1>she's only she only has followers because of her sister,

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<v Speaker 1>or she on her parents are famous, that's why she

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<v Speaker 1>like blah blah blah, because it's like, if you haven't noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>not all famous people have like famous siblings or not

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<v Speaker 1>everybody whose parents are famous like they've made something out

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<v Speaker 1>of that. A lot of people actually have. It's, if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been like a hindrance to them because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really even know like how to create something for themselves

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<v Speaker 1>because they feel like they only can think of the

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<v Speaker 1>mold that was already set for them. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>really see what you're saying. It's interesting too, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a touchy subject because you don't want to, like,

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<v Speaker 1>at least for me, I get nervous talking about anything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with that, because I'm like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>people to think that I'm not recognizing that I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>was born in a life where I'm already like a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand steps in front. I can recognize that. But then

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<v Speaker 1>it's like when people go on to say kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about just or anything in that realm,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I almost feel like it d like devalues

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<v Speaker 1>what I've like tried to build by myself when I

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<v Speaker 1>was like a young kid fourteen starting a YouTube. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I get it, Like I definitely have immense

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<v Speaker 1>privilege that's like taking me very far. But also it's

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<v Speaker 1>not It's like it took work. It's not just because

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<v Speaker 1>I was born. And there's a difference between like recognizing

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<v Speaker 1>that and its value and and and using it as

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<v Speaker 1>a way to like further your own ambitions. And then

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, on the flip side, you could

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<v Speaker 1>be like ashamed of it or or you could like

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<v Speaker 1>feeling shame about anything is just not productive and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not helpful to anybody. So yeah, I'm I'm I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>your wavelength with that. Yeah, for sure, are you the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest of all siblings? Are just the girls I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest girl. But we have five in our family and

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<v Speaker 1>um and where it's an Italian family, it's so like

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<v Speaker 1>if you know any I think you're Italians. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the but you only have a sister, so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have brothers. You do have a brother. See

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<v Speaker 1>this is what happens. Like I only knew about you

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<v Speaker 1>and your sister and I also have like other siblings too,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like we're the only ones who have taken

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of this kind of life because this is like

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<v Speaker 1>what we wanted to do. Not everybody wants to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like my brothers are musicians. They're super talented, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>not really interested in like putting their life on the

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<v Speaker 1>internet for people to be like say anything they wanted about,

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<v Speaker 1>Like not everybody. He's super private. Yeah. Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you have the same dynamic in your family.

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<v Speaker 1>But in my family, the girl is like the is

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<v Speaker 1>in charge, Like she it's responsible for everybody, and like

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<v Speaker 1>we're the connectors, Like we're the ones being the Thanksgiving plans.

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<v Speaker 1>We're the ones like making sure everybody's doing what they

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<v Speaker 1>should be doing, getting mom a Valentine. My brothers are

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<v Speaker 1>just like so basically, long story short, I do feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm the oldest brother and you're really you're working

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<v Speaker 1>on stuff with your sisters. Obviously you just said you

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<v Speaker 1>can't go into that, but I grew up with a

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<v Speaker 1>sister that's really close in age, and I'm super super

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<v Speaker 1>close with What was that like growing up for you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>And then who was like the first to get into

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<v Speaker 1>what category? Like give me a little give me a

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<v Speaker 1>little tea on the family. It's a funny. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>really funny story. Um we So Olivia started modeling in

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<v Speaker 1>college and then she like randomly, um uh, tried out

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<v Speaker 1>for MS Rhode Island. And my family is like, they're

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<v Speaker 1>classical musicians, like they're kind of like, I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be Madmie for sing this, but like elitists, like

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<v Speaker 1>they just you know, they're like, oh no, just pageants

0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.760
<v Speaker 1>were cheesy to them, Like like my parents. My mom

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<v Speaker 1>was mortified. So she tried out. She ended up winning it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she ended up winning Miss USA, and then

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<v Speaker 1>she ended up um winning um Miss Universe, and we

0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:21.480
<v Speaker 1>were all kind of like, uh, what like just happened here?

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a world win for my family, but

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<v Speaker 1>for me personally. It was like, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>still I was like getting my master's degree, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was not making any money. I was living at home

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<v Speaker 1>with my parents. I just gotten out of a bad relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>and here's my sister like crushing it at life, like

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<v Speaker 1>three years younger than me. And and you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>took like a few years of our relationship just like

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<v Speaker 1>going through trials where like I was having to really learn,

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<v Speaker 1>like not to compare where I am in life to

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<v Speaker 1>where she is in life, and not to compare like

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<v Speaker 1>each of our vale use based on like like there

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<v Speaker 1>was a time I'd be like, well, that's stupid. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even like she's she's oh she's promoting like lipstick

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram. I don't care, like I'm saving, I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>God's work over here, you know. And then and then

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<v Speaker 1>and and then, like our dynamic changed a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>I started to realize that I don't know if our

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic change or that if I just realized that, like

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't feel good to feel like someone else's gain

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<v Speaker 1>is like you're lost, you know. And when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to shove, like there's nobody in the world that I

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<v Speaker 1>would rather have something amazing, like that happened to and

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<v Speaker 1>then my sister like, what would I prefer somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>to have one? No? And yes, she did win those

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<v Speaker 1>three competitions, and that definitely gave her a leg up,

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<v Speaker 1>which you could say is lucky. You could be like, oh,

0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:46.960
<v Speaker 1>well she was born with a pretty face, or she

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<v Speaker 1>heard her question well or something. But what it really

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to is that she manifested it for herself.

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<v Speaker 1>She believed in it for herself, and she works really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to this day. She's like one of those people

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<v Speaker 1>who like does the work. She actually just recommends a

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<v Speaker 1>book to me called do the Work. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like an audible book. Um, but she's the person who's

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<v Speaker 1>journaling every day, and it's like and looking at at

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<v Speaker 1>old journals from years ago seeing that like what she

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<v Speaker 1>wrote then has like come true for her, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>big and manifesting. I think that's huge, honestly, Like I

0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.440
<v Speaker 1>know that. I know for some people they think that's

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<v Speaker 1>absolute craziness. And I've been trying to journal like a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more, just write down like goals. A friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine gave me this notebook recently that like is

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<v Speaker 1>all lined out for you and then you write and

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<v Speaker 1>like this is what I want to do this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you go back at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>year and I probably haven't. I'm just trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>all of it, but I'm just like I lack motivation

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<v Speaker 1>in it because I'm like does this even work? Like

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on? And you're like fighting with yourself to

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<v Speaker 1>try and get it done. But once you do it,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually just feels really good to like sometimes just

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<v Speaker 1>like vent on a piece of paper and just like

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<v Speaker 1>let everything out. And then also I do think that like,

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<v Speaker 1>like I remember when I was really really young, like

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<v Speaker 1>probably seventeen or eighteen, there was a big chalkboard in

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<v Speaker 1>my house and I had written like the letters s

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<v Speaker 1>C on it and it was for Sephora Collection, and

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<v Speaker 1>I like really wanted to like I had been working

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<v Speaker 1>with them like a little bit when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I remember like a year later, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like somebody had erase the chalkboard, but it was like

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<v Speaker 1>very faded out, and I was walking down the stairs

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<v Speaker 1>to go to school one day and I had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a call from my agent like Sephora p how it

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do or Sapphora Collection wants to a pallette

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<v Speaker 1>with you and I was walking down the stairs, I

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<v Speaker 1>got this call like looking at the faded like sc mark,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, that's so weird. So I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe it in a sense, yeah totally. And like while

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<v Speaker 1>you and I might not be like the journaling type,

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<v Speaker 1>even though like I don't know, I do feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I need to try that out. I'm just like, for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, I can't get myself to do that. But

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<v Speaker 1>even like doing something like this, like a podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>just like speaking about things and like just like it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like your any different you know, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about different subjects. You're talking about what you hope,

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<v Speaker 1>your hopes and your dreams and all that, and just

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<v Speaker 1>like the words we speak and putting them out into

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<v Speaker 1>the universe, I also feel or just they have a

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<v Speaker 1>very very powerful myself being like, oh I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>I am. It's like no, I know, yeah, everything you're

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<v Speaker 1>just speaking into like the way you talk about yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>it does go really far. But I'm the same because

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<v Speaker 1>even when people ask like what do you do, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I do? And then if I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what I do, it's going to sound really lame because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel myself in my bedroom by myself talking and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like super super lame. Um. But anyway, you're in

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<v Speaker 1>like full mom mode on Instagram too, Like is that

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<v Speaker 1>what the main content is that, like your main type

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<v Speaker 1>of content you produce or yeah, I mean it definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of how I accidentally fell into the influencer

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<v Speaker 1>world because I had I had my son and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like holy, like nobody talks about this, Like

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<v Speaker 1>is anybody else like not able to sit down after

0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you give birth? Like what are hemorrhoids? What are like

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<v Speaker 1>all these things that people are like, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>like embarrassed to talk about. And like I've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>marketed myself as that person that's like approachable and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell the truth. And and that has been like a

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<v Speaker 1>double edged sword for me because I'm the person who

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<v Speaker 1>is like in my d M s responding to everybody

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<v Speaker 1>getting myself into trouble. Like I'm like, I'm surprised to

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<v Speaker 1>let me do a podcast without my sisters because they'll

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<v Speaker 1>usually be like kicking me under the table to be

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<v Speaker 1>like shut up say that word, like you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get canceled. I'm always like on the verge

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<v Speaker 1>of getting cans. I would never let you get canceled

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<v Speaker 1>from me. It sucks. I won't let anybody next to

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<v Speaker 1>me or around me get canceled. I've had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of experience being kind of unfiltered on Instagram and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's gotten me in trouble um just because uh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little impulsive with the way I talk. I respond

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<v Speaker 1>to basically all I'm like, you know, I'm in a

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<v Speaker 1>fight with Tim from Ohio that I've never like, why

0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.679
<v Speaker 1>do you read? You're like just don't answer them, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like I've got to get talk to like

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<v Speaker 1>I need to talk to this person. And because you're human, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I need to be better about that. But

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<v Speaker 1>what when when my manager was like, do you wanna

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to go on Olivia Jade's podcast, And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I would love too, because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like what i've from what I've seen from you is

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<v Speaker 1>like such a resilient person, like not everybody like I've

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<v Speaker 1>I was like doing my research and like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see I'll see like just trolls like saying just

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<v Speaker 1>stupid things, and it's like it takes everything in me

0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.800
<v Speaker 1>not to respond to them, but it's like the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you're able to rebuild after like people have just

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<v Speaker 1>said such horrible, stupid things. It's like not everybody has that,

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<v Speaker 1>like and that is something that has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with like coming from famous parents. That's like something that

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<v Speaker 1>that's like grit, that's like an internal strength that not

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has. Thank you so much for saying that. I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate it. I feel like it's so much like

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<v Speaker 1>for me too. It's I like try and put on

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a brave front, you know, or like

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<v Speaker 1>a strong not even brave, but just like a strong

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<v Speaker 1>friend of like oh yeah, I'm unbothered by this or whatever.

0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:20.840
<v Speaker 1>But it is so true, like kind of what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>When you want to respond to all those trolls and

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<v Speaker 1>haters or people that just don't know you, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say something that's like intentionally gonna make you upset.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so hard sometimes to like really just ignore it

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<v Speaker 1>because also I'm like I don't know much about signs,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently this is what I've been told because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a libra that you want everyone to like you, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a really true thing about me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I always I'm like, like my sister is complete opposite,

0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Like she's so fine if nobody like with her, she

0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't care. She's like I'm my own person, Like she's

0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.240
<v Speaker 1>uniquely sarcastic, She's just her own vibe. And for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like always trying to people please and I want

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<v Speaker 1>people to like me, and if somebody doesn't like me,

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<v Speaker 1>then I want convince you to like me. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like such a test the last few years of obviously

0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:08.840
<v Speaker 1>feeling so hated by like literally everybody, that I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just not, this is not I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>this is meant for my brain, Like I I need

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<v Speaker 1>people to like me. And the fact that I feel

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<v Speaker 1>so misunderstood by so many people, and like the media

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and the way that they can like twist things and

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff is just so crazy. Like I'm glad

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:26.280
<v Speaker 1>that to the outside it seems like I'm resilient, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's like in my I'm a firm believer to that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're never given anything that you can't handle, and

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<v Speaker 1>like all the situations that have happened to all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>like like there their opportunities for us to like evolve

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<v Speaker 1>as people and to like become better versions of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can either take that opportunity to like go

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<v Speaker 1>in one direction and not make any progress, or you

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 1>can take it out the opportunity to to grow and evolve.

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<v Speaker 1>And it sounds like you were the perfect person for

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<v Speaker 1>that to happen to, because not everybody would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to recover, for um, like just any hate you know,

0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:05.840
<v Speaker 1>from it's really hard to to read things and and

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 1>that are just not true and not feel the need,

0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, and just be like I'm not going to

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 1>defend myself because it's just not it's not even worth it.

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 1>And people just people want to What I've learned is

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.640
<v Speaker 1>that like people just want to they want to think

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:20.560
<v Speaker 1>what they want to think. So like for me, my

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:22.439
<v Speaker 1>thing is like I don't need people to like me,

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>but I want to be right and I want you

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to know that I'm right. So that but like you

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.520
<v Speaker 1>don't you know, you're not gonna win. It's a losing battle.

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 1>So and it's also like the people that are saying

0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 1>all that, it's like, okay, but you personally don't even

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.200
<v Speaker 1>know me, so go off like say what you're gonna say,

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>but you've never met me, So until you meet me

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.400
<v Speaker 1>then make a fair judgment. That's like what I always say.

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, if you meet me and you don't like

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:45.679
<v Speaker 1>me genuinely, Like if we talk for a while and

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:47.919
<v Speaker 1>this girl is a bit, I'm like, Okay, then you

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.400
<v Speaker 1>can think I'm a bit, that's fine. But if you're

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 1>just seeing like little things online, like you can't you

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 1>can't judge me just for that, like you don't even know.

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:01.919
<v Speaker 1>But I also think is just another random topic. But

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I also feel like, and then we can get back

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.120
<v Speaker 1>to you and like details about your life, but you're

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 1>just very I feel like you're very understanding of all this,

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.439
<v Speaker 1>and it's interesting to hear another person's perspective. But I

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>also feel like what's interesting about like trolls or internet

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 1>hate or just being on social media in general. It's like, hey,

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.239
<v Speaker 1>it never feels good for anybody to have like a

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:25.440
<v Speaker 1>mean comment, Like everybody's human. You don't want to see

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.399
<v Speaker 1>that anyway. But I think that people forget that, like

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the people that they're talking to, these influencers or anybody

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that's in some world of like fame or public like attention,

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:37.679
<v Speaker 1>is like they're also human beings. And I feel like

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:41.640
<v Speaker 1>people genuinely forget that, like the mental toll it can

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>take on a person when you are that negative constantly

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 1>towards them, or it's like one thing like I saw

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>my friend who's like in the midst of like being

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.880
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote canceled right now, and he like came out

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and said his side of things, and then I see

0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>all the comments that are like why why, like why

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 1>is he making this about himself? Like how do we

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>make this about himself? And I'm sitting there and I'm

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 1>like I get what the comments are saying too, but

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 1>also like do you not realize like when you've canceled

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody that much and it's that public and you're constantly

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:16.640
<v Speaker 1>writing negative, negative things like of course it's about them now,

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Like that takes a mental toll. What you're crazy to

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>think they're sitting like that's not making it about themselves.

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 1>That's being a human with emotions and reacting to something

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>where hundreds of thousands of people are telling you who

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:31.160
<v Speaker 1>you are right now. That's like survival, that's like fight

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>or flight. Like we are wired for connection. We're wired

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>for like literally our biology wants to be accepted in

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the clan because otherwise, like we're not you don't survive

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 1>as a solitary person like in our you know, going

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>back to the caveman times. So it's, yeah, it is

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>all about us because it feels like life or death

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>when you're being like cut out, when you're being canceled.

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Um but I but I think the best thing like

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>that that I feel like you're exemplifying for people, for

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 1>all the people that are continuing to be canceled, is

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that like the best way to just like win when

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>those people is just keep showing up. Like here you

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.199
<v Speaker 1>are with like a successful podcast. Here you are like

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 1>still showing up, doing your makeup, doing your camera in

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>front of you, and it's like it's like they didn't

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:38.919
<v Speaker 1>they didn't win. So that's like very inspiring. Yeah. I

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>read also that you were pregnant during COVID. True or false,

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:46.439
<v Speaker 1>Like in the midst of the pandemic, I was pregnant

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>during COVID. That was how was your mental health and

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:53.400
<v Speaker 1>like how did you keep yourself in check? Yeah? So

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I I had I had an experience after I had

0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>my son that I started having catastrophic anxiety and I

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:05.199
<v Speaker 1>didn't even really know what it was. Um, but I

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 1>realized I realized now that it was like it almost

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>felt more like a superpower, Like I could walk into

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>a room and identify like every exit, every potential threat,

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>every hot coffee, every like person that looks weird, every

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>because like I was just like hyper vigilant over my

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>son and I was really afraid that he was going

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>to like some like a smother in his sleep. And

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you hear these horrible stories things happened to kids, and

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like Netflix was always telling me to

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>watch like documentaries about horrible things happens to kids, and

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>I just felt like after a while, I was like,

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't feel this can't be right, Like this is debilitating,

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and like to my husband, it seemed like I was

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 1>just being like an overprotective mom or like nurturing and

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like it was almost like, oh, you're like

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.640
<v Speaker 1>you're like too good of a mom. But it's like

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:01.479
<v Speaker 1>that's actually like that's what they call it, but it's actually, uh,

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's it's postpartum. It's not really depression. It

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>leads to depression because it's anxiety. So I ended up

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>going actually um on Zoloft for a little while, and

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:16.679
<v Speaker 1>it like turned my world around and and made made

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>me realize that what I was feeling was not normal,

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>not helpful, and and I felt great. Um, so that

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>really worked for me. And like I come from a

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>family of like my dad's like has run fifteen marathons,

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Like if you're feeling down, like he's like, go run. Yeah,

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Like exercise does help, but like to a certain extent,

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, especially when you're dealing with like the hormones

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>of after birth and all that. So anyway, so that

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>was with my son, and then when when um, a

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>year later, I wanted to have another baby and I

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be on any medication for that, so

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I weaned off and it was fun, and I got pregnant,

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:06.719
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic hit and I'm just like like halfway through

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>my pregnancy, I started feeling like the same things, like

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I started the same kind of like just like intrusive

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>thoughts of like of just like bad things happening. They

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>were like I remember I watched something on the news

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and like the story was like sat on my chest

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>for like weeks, like I couldn't shake it, you know,

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like I just kept thinking about it was so

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>sad um and so I had to make a really

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 1>hard decision about whether to go back on zoloft during

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>my pregnancy. And that's like there's not a lot of

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>studies around um like taking medication while pregnant, because you know,

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>ethnically they can't really do that. They can't use pregnant

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>women on trial for like a trial um study. So

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and then there's like a there's like a some percent

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>chance that they could be born with autism, or then

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>there's but I knew I was having a girl. I

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>know the autism is much less common in girls. And

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>so I had to make the really hard decision to

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>go back on it because it was either like what's

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>going to be worse for this baby, like being depressed

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and anxious and possibly like going into early labor or

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>going on this medication. And so I went on it.

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I started feeling good again and I and it like

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>worked perfectly, and we're I know, we were talking about

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>science before um and the craziest thing like happened. She

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 1>was she was like it was like eight months. I

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>still had another month until she was born. And it

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 1>was the middle of the night and I just woke

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>up and I had this like I was like something

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>that's not right, Like I just had like a feeling

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>like in my gut. She she was like, I didn't

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>have any pain, there was no bleeding, nothing, But I

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm just gonna drive myself to the hospital

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>because like I didn't want to go during the day

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>because it was the height of COVID and I didn't

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>remember during COVID, like you never wanted to go to

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the doctor. He's never wanted to be around. Like I

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 1>barely get in ye right was the lines and everything.

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I'll just go now because I

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>couldn't sleep, and um to get in my car and

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I go and they hooked me up and they're like

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>we need to get this baby out of you right now.

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>She can't breathe. And they were like, how did you

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>know to come in. I was like I literally don't know.

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I just like drove myself here, Like I remember on

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the way they're being like you're such a weirdo, like

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you're driving by myself. Didn't even tell my husband I

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>was leaving. I just got in the car and went

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>and I was like they're gonna be like this lady's psychotic.

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>She needs to go home. Oh my gosh, that's like

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>mom intuition yeah, it was crazy, And so I labored

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>for her and and we labor and labor, and she

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of come out and they were like, we should

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>just do a c section before, like something bad can happen,

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and and we end up doing a c section and

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>she was completely wrapped in her cord, like from the

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 1>neck down, and they were like, she didn't come in today,

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>she would not have made it. Yeah, so that's like,

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>that's like my I like have chills now even telling

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>this story because I I on pent believe now, just

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 1>in like, do you have a gut feeling that, like

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>with no evidence about it, just something in the gut

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>feeling like you need you should act on it. I

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>feel like our bodies know almost before our brains do sometimes,

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.719
<v Speaker 1>like what's happening. Yeah, my mom always told me growing up,

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>when you have like a like your intuition or gut instinct,

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>that's like your angels talking. She's like pretty religious, so

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's like her her thing, but always

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about angels too, and I'm like, I don't, I

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't think of those in that in

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that like conceptual kind of term. But I also grew

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>up Catholic, so yeah, me too, But I do think

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that's that's really crazy. So you had her, you had

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>her with a C section. I had her c section

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a month early. UM. And then how did you feel

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>after that? I? Well, I was on the zoloft from

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>me pregnant, so I felt it was it was just

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>a much easier transition. It was much smoother UM and

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and I weaned off of it after that, and like,

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>my I don't know, like I haven't been having like

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>any anxiety, any symptoms, thank God, knock on wood. But

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 1>everybody's like, why would you go off? Like what's the

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>big deal? Like just maybe you're just someone who needs

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>to like be on that forever. And and there's just

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>something in me that's like I just don't want to

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>have to be on something forever. Just feels very like

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it just it. I would rather not,

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not opposed to it. Like if those feelings

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>start coming back, I know that that for me, like

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I have no qualms about like going back on it.

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think it means that you're a weak person.

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it. Yeah, I think it means that you know,

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 1>like when something is chemically off, and that you can

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>identify it as like separate from yourself. And I feel

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>like there's also like so much you can do like

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>on your own and like homeopathically or whatever. Certain people

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 1>believe even that are kind of deterred from like standard medication.

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>But there's also like truly there's only so much you

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>can do if you have a chemical imbalance or something.

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>That's like with my somebody that I used to be

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>very close, but they were always super ashamed of being

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 1>on medication, and I would always tell them, I'm like,

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>this is nothing to be ashamed about. Like, if anything,

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>this is kind of a blessing. You found something that worked,

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>like otherwise you can just live in like speaking of

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>um wellness though, I know on your Instagram you have

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>a segment like wellness Wednesdays. Oh my god, yesterday's Wednesday,

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>And I like, what's the segment Caroline to yell at

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>me that I haven't done yet? Um, So I've been

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>getting these um these ad I v s. Have you

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>have you heard of them? An A D I like

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 1>don't even know it's this really long? Is an amino?

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Basically it's approachein that your body makes for you already,

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's supposed to be like anti aging, anti um inflammatory.

0:34:57.719 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>It's supposed to kind of help your body heal fast

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>her And it's this ivy that I've been getting through

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>this company called reset ivy um and and and I

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>think it's been helping me. I mean, like my sleep

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 1>has been feeling better. I don't know, have you Have

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 1>you gotten I vs as like a I have when

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm like hungover. Yeah I know, I know, and every

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 1>single time I get them if I'm hungover, which has

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>been like too many times. But I just feel like

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really work for I agree. Wait, I agree.

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm the only person that says that I'm like, this

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't do I still feel terrible right. And I had

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a nurse tell me once that she's like, well, like

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you could also just drink the water, like you don't

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.760
<v Speaker 1>have to get it right. It's like, yeah, it'll hydraate

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 1>you if they give you some zoo fran that's the

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>like anti no me, dan, you'll feel better, But like

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.720
<v Speaker 1>nothing's gonna make up for like the lack of sleep

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 1>that you got, you know. So and yeah, um yeah,

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I need to find a hangout. Like

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>somebody whoever may create a pill is going to be

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>so rich. I need to get on that. Like so rich,

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't a musk made like a hangover charging station

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>or something you should? I mean, honestly, if you're that

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 1>smart and you can make that many other things like

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>how hard is it to figure out how to cure

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 1>a hangover in a pill? I always think about that,

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>But then I'm like, well, clearly, if it was easy,

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>it would have been done. Yeah, or we could just

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>stop drinking. But that just doesn't seem realistic at all. No, No,

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I tried that. There was a while.

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:36.280
<v Speaker 1>There was a while where I was like, I actually

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>don't drink anymore. I like told everybody hard when you're pregnant,

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 1>like the nine months of sobriety, it it definitely. It

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>definitely highlights for you what your crutches are when you're

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>not allowed to use them anymore, and we eat like

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I Well, it was also a pandemic. Okay, people were drinking.

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Remember how much everybody drink. Everybody's making like banana bread

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and drinking, making bread and drinking. That's literally all the

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Remember everybody had like a sour dough starter. Yes, I

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>don't care, Like can somebody give me a bottle of wine.

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I know that it definitely was hard the whole.

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 1>It was like for me, pregnancy felt like being trapped

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>in your body, and then like I was also trapped

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>in a pandemic, and it was just like there was

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of feelings of being trapped. I was like,

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>my whole I can't even imagine that too, because I

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>know so many people can relate to just the pandemic

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 1>in general, just being like absolutely terrible, feeling super locked away,

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>like no social connection. On top of that, being pregnant,

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 1>which kind of as you're talking about, like I feel

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>like everybody glorifies pregnancy obviously. I'm I'm still in my

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>early twenties, like not a thought in my brain about

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>having children anytime soon. But I'm like when I do,

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about pregnancy except that like you

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>looked cute with a big belly, and you can wear

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 1>like really cute tight dresses and you don't have to

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>worry about being bloated because you're pregnant. Like that's people

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 1>treat you very well, Like people treat you like you're

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>like a walking miracle, like and do you have the

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>baby and then you're like not pregnant anymore. Like you

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 1>noticed a shift in like how people treat and you're like, like,

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 1>am I not a walking miracle anymore? Like how like

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:26.919
<v Speaker 1>the minute the baby comes out, as all like how's

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the baby? How's the baby, It's like, the baby's fine,

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not now, like I know I haven't slept

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 1>for months. Um, But yeah, it was. It's interesting because

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 1>like my pregnancies were different. With my son, I did

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>have that, like I always being a mom was like

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the only thing I was ever sure of in my

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>whole life. So like when I got pregnant and I

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 1>was so excited and I feel like I really like

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed that experience more. I also wasn't as sick like

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>when I had so lay, I was like it was

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a pandemic. I had girls make you more sick. I

0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>don't care what they say, they just do. Like my

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I was so sick for such a long time. Um,

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and then I end up having that like postpartum or

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the perinatal they call it when it's during pregnancy anxiety.

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 1>So there was it was just a different experience. Every

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 1>baby is so different. And I don't want to scare you.

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people. A lot of people just love

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole they I mean, I follow girls on Instagram

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 1>who are like have nine children, like that's somewhere like

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:26.479
<v Speaker 1>in Costa Rica jungle and they're like breastfeeding all six

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 1>of them. I don't know. People are made for all

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:33.240
<v Speaker 1>sorts different. Yeah, do you have like one wellness practice

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>that like you could recommend to people listening or like

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>one thing that you think whether it's through like your

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy journey or post or before whatever it is that

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>you like stuck to throughout the years that it's really helped. Yeah.

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I for me, I really like to listen to Everybody

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:51.840
<v Speaker 1>learns in a different way, but I really like to

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>listen to audio books and like I have like a

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 1>whole like I guess you could call it self help repertoire,

0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>but um, on my website, I'm gonna I'm gonna have

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 1>like a little book club of all just all of

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>my favorite books that have like really helped me throughout

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the year. Will you please send me a list of

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 1>these because I just got into self help books, Like

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm really into the self improvement ones, but I don't know,

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I've only read like a few. Have you seen have

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you read dear self. No, I don't know that one.

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>It's almost some of my favorite are like, um uh,

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 1>what happy people know the untethered soul. You have to

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 1>be like really in like a I don't know. You

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 1>have to be in a place sometimes it's like when

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>you're in the worst places, like the time when you're

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>when you're like open to reading really taking them in.

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 1>But that was great. The power of now is like

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a great one that a lot of people know. Um uh,

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 1>there's there's so many if you're into more of like

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>a spiritual um like if you have a little bit

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>of a spiritual edge to you. There's a book called

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>The Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton, which is so good,

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's basically just talks all about how like from

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the ages of zero to eight, our brains are in

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>something called like braative beta way of brain state where

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like basically like you're in a meditative state and

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>everything that's like shown to you is you take in

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 1>as true. So basically you're being just downloaded during that

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 1>whole time, and like the work of the rest of

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.240
<v Speaker 1>our life is to kind of like undo the things

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that are well intentioned parents or you know, the society

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>told us that we were and that we aren't, And

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 1>so I'm really interested in all of that, like unpacking things.

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.399
<v Speaker 1>So I like to I like to read and listen

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:36.280
<v Speaker 1>to books. I can't really read because I can't focused.

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to audio. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 1>feel like that's like the one because I feel like,

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>right now I'm like in the darkest place I've ever

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 1>been in, like just like mentally, like yeah, just like

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 1>which you would never know, which is the crazy thing

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>about social media, Like you would never know what somebody

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>is like going through behind, but they're not posting basically,

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And I don't post about it or talk about it

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 1>really because I'm like, I don't want to like a

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>pistol are people off that, Like I'm yearning out of

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>all people, and like I don't know, I just I

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want to make anybody else like sad. But I

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 1>just like that's when I really started getting into like

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:13.880
<v Speaker 1>all these self improvement books, and I feel like it

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 1>does actually really help. So if anybody's going through something

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>like it helps you cut the way you talk about

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>like even just you being like I feel bad for myself,

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>like out of all people, like you're you have the

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 1>right to be to feel upset, and you have the

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>right to feel like a bit just because you have

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>came from like a family that was famous and whatever.

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like, that doesn't give anybody any less of a

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 1>right to have feelings about about it, just to feel bad,

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I know, I just think like nowadays

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.399
<v Speaker 1>with like current social media, like like some people you're

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>just not allowed to be upset, or at least that's

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 1>like you're pretty no, no, no, you don't get to

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>be upset. Yeah, Like there's just certain things that are

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>like which I see, I see all perspectives, but I

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:01.439
<v Speaker 1>can't help but just think like, no, that's of course,

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 1>it's our job to do the best we can for

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 1>all the things that are happening out there. But you

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 1>need to be like, if we're not first worrying about

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>like our own mental health, then we're not going to

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>be a service to anybody, you know, We're not gonna

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 1>be able to be capable of it. So I just, yeah,

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 1>I know that's the whole I'm gonna say the wrong

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:27.439
<v Speaker 1>thing and get canceled again. So you literally can't get

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 1>canceled when you're on the call. Next to me like

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I will make you look so much better every time.

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:35.879
<v Speaker 1>But we'll end on that note. Thank you so much

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>for coming on the podcast. I really enjoyed this conversation. Honestly,

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 1>you're super easy to talk to. Thank you. Um yeah,

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 1>thanks so much and this was so much fun. And

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I will totally send you that list of books please,

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and if you ever want to come back, once you

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and your sisters and you guys launch all that stuff,

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:56.320
<v Speaker 1>you guys always have a space, I'll talk about it stuff.

0:43:56.360 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 1>I want to be the first to note absolutely, thank

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you so much. Go get your crying baby, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you