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Speaker 1: That's what I'm okay. What's been ready for a week
Speaker 1: seventeen kind of is talk about some injuries with we
Speaker 1: have today doctor right, doctor doctor a of inside injuries?
Speaker 1: Is that would be fun? Continue to kind of recap
Speaker 1: the fantasy football season, call out my rankings, call it
Speaker 1: your rankings. Sure have some fun. Absolutely, that's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do over the next hour or so, without questions,
Speaker 1: get right into it, right down, doctor right, comes up
Speaker 1: at the twenty minutes from now or so um, and
Speaker 1: then we go don't really go over rankings for weeks seventeen,
Speaker 1: we reveal them on the show. I assuming you're not
Speaker 1: doing rankings week seventeen. Yeah, I haven't even told Scott,
Speaker 1: so I hope he just knows, dude. Week seventeen rankings.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's really it's super hard to figure out,
Speaker 1: like which players are gonna play, how long they're gonna play.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are saying that they're going to play their starters,
Speaker 1: but if they're healthy. Last time that they were in
Speaker 1: this situation, I believe Ezekiel Elliott dressed but didn't play
Speaker 1: at all, and then Dak and des Bryant both played
Speaker 1: five series each, so they weren't in the game for long.
Speaker 1: It's just Week seventeen is just a mess. I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people like to play dfs on this
Speaker 1: slate because there's a lot of players that get opportunities
Speaker 1: to play that normally don't. So maybe that's where you
Speaker 1: want to go. I really really hope that your season
Speaker 1: long is not going this far, But if you do
Speaker 1: have any calls regarding that, keepers the season as a
Speaker 1: whole life. Yes, we said wrestling. Whatever you want to
Speaker 1: talk about A four, four, three, six, seven nine. Would
Speaker 1: absolutely love that. Um, Frank, I want to start today's program, Uh,
Speaker 1: graduating jimnet winning all of our games earlier this morning,
Speaker 1: all of them. He was fantastic. Yes, he put on
Speaker 1: a show. I'm happy. I'm happy you wanted to join
Speaker 1: my team. If you haven't checked that out, please do.
Speaker 1: It's on the man now. It's our Year and Review special.
Speaker 1: We really focus just on a football. We played a
Speaker 1: bunch of games regarding football. Um, it was fun. It
Speaker 1: was fun. Good job about you, Grady. You know I'm
Speaker 1: hosting putting together some interesting stuff. You went down an
Speaker 1: interesting path in terms of stats that used red zone stuff,
Speaker 1: third down stuff. Yeah, because I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't like third downs. Is like, all right, let
Speaker 1: me throw this against the wall and see if it sticks. Right.
Speaker 1: It's like like we all watch the game, but it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to remember third down. I was gonna
Speaker 1: do more basic stuff and I started it and I
Speaker 1: was like, I could eat it's more fun. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that, so I did. Um. I saw
Speaker 1: a Evan Silva tweet of it. Earlier or yesterday, I
Speaker 1: should say who you know? And he like may have
Speaker 1: been all against the Sequon Barkley draft pick, saying hey,
Speaker 1: like you're totally misunderstanding value in drafts. He basically reinforced
Speaker 1: it yesterday, I saying, listen, the se Quon Barkley drafting
Speaker 1: of the New York Giants. We'll just hurt them this
Speaker 1: year or next year over the years to come. This
Speaker 1: is a decades long mistake. And I'm just like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. But you know, went to the casual fan, right,
Speaker 1: the person who just watched the Giants weekend and week
Speaker 1: out and sees the generational talent at St. Bon Barkley has.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy actually seems like he was touched
Speaker 1: by God or whatever it might be. He's amazing. But
Speaker 1: as we've seen with teams like the Pittsburgh Steelers who
Speaker 1: just kind of like, alright, well, next man up mentality
Speaker 1: like Levian Bell doesn't play. James Conner steps in does
Speaker 1: just as fine. But you know who the Steelers always
Speaker 1: have that makes them go. Ben Roethlisberger, the quarterback you
Speaker 1: take away, you know, you take away James Conner from
Speaker 1: the team. J Alen Samuel steps right, in and and
Speaker 1: does great. Now sep Won Barkley is a player that
Speaker 1: can he can outperform the offensive line that's put in
Speaker 1: front of him. I think that we've realized that by now,
Speaker 1: Like the guy's averaging five yards per carry behind that
Speaker 1: offensive line. No doubt, he's awesome, He's amazing. What can
Speaker 1: you win with just the running back? And that's what
Speaker 1: it comes down to answer, Probably not? Probably not, that's
Speaker 1: the issue. Realistically, the quarterback that they would have been
Speaker 1: looking at was Sam Donald. And again, you know, we've
Speaker 1: we've spoke about this. This is something that's gonna be
Speaker 1: compared for years and years and years and years. And
Speaker 1: Donald goes on to become, you know, a great quarterback quarterback,
Speaker 1: you know, like if he's solid in The Jets have
Speaker 1: been looking for a quarterback forever to so since man
Speaker 1: Donald and sake Bonbarkle, we are gonna be compared for
Speaker 1: a long time. And the next man up, I mean
Speaker 1: you had Josh Allen was the next quarterback taken by
Speaker 1: the Bills. And while he showed some rushing ability, he's
Speaker 1: still pretty raw as a passer. And Josh Rosen is
Speaker 1: this kind of just like um flushed this season down
Speaker 1: the toilet for Josh Rosen because given what he went
Speaker 1: through with like changing offensive coordinators, the inept the ineptitude
Speaker 1: on offense, the fact that he you know, he hasn't
Speaker 1: had a lot of weapons, he doesn't have David Johnson
Speaker 1: and fits, but like just the way that he was
Speaker 1: used with the offensive coordinators just kind of just like
Speaker 1: all right, we'll sweep this here into the rug. For
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, Um, I think you have to. UM, I
Speaker 1: think you have to because it was the idiot offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator had no business Mike mcquoy being there at this point, Um,
Speaker 1: head coach has never done this before. It was overmatched.
Speaker 1: I think this year and I think you have to
Speaker 1: hope it's more of like a Jared Goff situation. There's
Speaker 1: always a lot of similarities given they went the same
Speaker 1: school or I went playing the same station. To say, um,
Speaker 1: and it looked overmatch and that was a big word
Speaker 1: we have coming back to you when it was about
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. He looked overmatched. The scheme wasn't good enough,
Speaker 1: it was all vanilla. And I think it's a lot
Speaker 1: of what you saw this here. I think you'd be
Speaker 1: bringing a brighter offensive mind with Josh Rosen and you
Speaker 1: figure out how to get the best out of him.
Speaker 1: There's a lot here, and I ultimately believe you that
Speaker 1: he should get a pass for this. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that Jared Goff is like a superstar quarterback by any
Speaker 1: means um but definitely, but Sean McVeigh gets the best
Speaker 1: out of him. And I think that a bright, young coach, right,
Speaker 1: not even young, a bright, offensive minded coach could get
Speaker 1: the best out of Josh Rosen. And that's why, and
Speaker 1: that's what everyone's trying to find obviously, and I think
Speaker 1: the same. I think the same could be said for
Speaker 1: Middle Drobisky too, right, like he looked over matched last year.
Speaker 1: You're bringing Mattneggie, and I think again, Mr Drobiski has
Speaker 1: worked Mats this year at times. So is Jerry very
Speaker 1: raw as a pastor and Jerry cob And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that Neggie is a coach of Sean Vives or
Speaker 1: Chicago's the offensive weapons that l A does, they don't,
Speaker 1: they don't. You know, Jordan Howard is not Sodd Gurley.
Speaker 1: Sree Cohen's not Todd Gurley. The wide receivers, you know,
Speaker 1: anyone that's like Robert Woods or Brandon Cooks or Cooper
Speaker 1: cop Right, like, so those are not just like apples
Speaker 1: to apples. But Matt Neeggie has been able to get
Speaker 1: the best out of that offense, I believe, and I
Speaker 1: think bringing offensive coach, whoever that may be, will hopefully
Speaker 1: do the same to Josh Rosen in Arizona. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you check out these like Dan Orlovsky tweet
Speaker 1: film breakdown things that he does. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's obviously modeled after um, it's modeled after what
Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger does, but it's fantastic. But yeah, he did
Speaker 1: one yesterday basically with Mattneggie and he was like, you
Speaker 1: know a lot of people break down like cornerbacks and
Speaker 1: certain like he basically showed two plays from Matt Naggie.
Speaker 1: One like they were both on third down, like he's
Speaker 1: in the same play, but like the safety bit up
Speaker 1: too harder like an out route, and the next time
Speaker 1: he did that same exact route, he had the wide
Speaker 1: receiver break up the field when the safety kind of
Speaker 1: like drove on it. And it was just like he's
Speaker 1: just like, this is what you're supposed this is what
Speaker 1: in game adjustments are all about like when you see
Speaker 1: a defensive player, And for for Matt Nagy to do
Speaker 1: that in game, it's just insane, right because it's not
Speaker 1: like it's not he has time to like break down
Speaker 1: every single play. It's not like he went to like
Speaker 1: a film room or whatever and like had the time
Speaker 1: to dissect it. Like it's literally in game, like he
Speaker 1: saw something a defensive player did and and basically change
Speaker 1: the route on that play. Like having an offensive mind
Speaker 1: like that, it's just awesome, and uh, hopefully the Jets
Speaker 1: and Cardinals can figure it out. There's more offense better
Speaker 1: for fantasy. The I want to get into Frankie, we
Speaker 1: got wrong that I was having a lot of fun
Speaker 1: with that yesterday. Of course you were everything I got right.
Speaker 1: You got wrong. It's we got wrong. So I wanted yesterday,
Speaker 1: so I wanted to hit um, we didn't need to
Speaker 1: do the wide receivers yesterday. I kind of skip that
Speaker 1: knowing that we get into that today. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to get into the wide receivers today. That we just
Speaker 1: really just crushed right and got right. No, that we
Speaker 1: were low on just just we're wrong. We that we
Speaker 1: just were decimated by the first seven receivers. And this
Speaker 1: is again like a yeah, like everyone has the first
Speaker 1: seven receivers and I'm the same. I told him understand
Speaker 1: that we were right, Like the fantas community was pretty
Speaker 1: right with Antonio Brown, DeAndre Hopkins obviously, oh don't work
Speaker 1: out great, But Julio, Michael Thomas, Dabant, Adams, Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: pretty good about that. They all are really good. AJ
Speaker 1: Green obviously got hurt this year, and I wasn't you
Speaker 1: know on AJ Green at all? Um. Actually, I want
Speaker 1: to pull up my rankings where I had a J. Green,
Speaker 1: but I didn't really. I wasn't really in on him
Speaker 1: and all of this year. How do you feel about
Speaker 1: him going forward? It's uh. I think he's in an
Speaker 1: interesting place right now because since Sinnati is a team
Speaker 1: that I could see kind of blowing everything up and
Speaker 1: starting over. That's why I've thrown a J. Green's name
Speaker 1: out there as like a candidate to be traded, whether
Speaker 1: it's the Jets are like another team that has a
Speaker 1: young quarterback that needs a legitimate wide receiver. So I
Speaker 1: could see the Bengals kind of parting ways with the
Speaker 1: head coach and Marvin Lewis Party, parting ways with like
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and really just starting over right and like
Speaker 1: putting putting this offense in the hands of like Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon and like, all right, we'll get a young quarterback
Speaker 1: in here, and these guys will kind of like grow together.
Speaker 1: H and A J. Green obviously going to be entering
Speaker 1: your contract year next year, and it's very injury prone,
Speaker 1: so like if you can get any value out of him,
Speaker 1: like you could probably still trade A. J. Green legitimately
Speaker 1: for like a second round pick in the NFL, So
Speaker 1: that's something that they'll probably look into doing. So I
Speaker 1: think a lot of it is going to be landing spot.
Speaker 1: But this is you know, this has been pretty consistent
Speaker 1: now with him not being able to finish out seasons
Speaker 1: because if you look at him, as great as he is,
Speaker 1: as long as he is, he's super fragile, Like he's
Speaker 1: a skinny dude. He doesn't have doesn't the same kind
Speaker 1: of like monstrous build that like other guys do, like
Speaker 1: Leo Jones that can like play through injuries and all
Speaker 1: these other guys like Davante Adams, who's just like who's
Speaker 1: built crazy. So A J. Green, I think on a
Speaker 1: pre game basis. He could still he could still be valuable,
Speaker 1: but he's just always hurt. I think he's gonna slide
Speaker 1: down draft boards a little bit next year. He wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me as a guy who goes in the third
Speaker 1: round looking at his year by year production. Right, So,
Speaker 1: like played nine games this year sixteen last year, but
Speaker 1: the actual production was down. He was awesome, but only
Speaker 1: played ten games. So it's like a year on year
Speaker 1: off thing. Sixteen only played thirteen games. So I think
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's uh Andy Dalton, any J. Green are candidates
Speaker 1: to be on other teams. I think A J. Green's
Speaker 1: days of being a first or second round draft pick
Speaker 1: for Fantasy r O I think so too. I think
Speaker 1: we we have finally reached that moment continually down your
Speaker 1: wide or our wide receivers here um admittedly, Greg, I
Speaker 1: just want to bring these up. The vikings. The vikings
Speaker 1: were really they were polarizing in drafts. They were very
Speaker 1: hard to figure out. Everyone wanted to not everyone, I
Speaker 1: don't want to speak for everyone. I liked Kyle Rough
Speaker 1: a lot. If you look at the track record of
Speaker 1: her cousins, typically always through to the tight end in
Speaker 1: the j Gruden offense in Washington used Jordan Read a lot.
Speaker 1: Whenever Jordan Read was hurt used Vernon Davis. So I
Speaker 1: thought the one lock to be consistent in this offense
Speaker 1: was gonna be Kyle Rudolph. Couldn't have been more wrong.
Speaker 1: The most consistent wide receiver was Adam Feeling, a guy
Speaker 1: who also throughout the year dealt with some injuries. Now
Speaker 1: two years in a row where he kind of deals
Speaker 1: with some injuries, and I think both guys are super talented.
Speaker 1: But this is just me, Greg, and tell me if
Speaker 1: you thought the same way. I kind of shied away
Speaker 1: whenever I saw Diggs and Feeling like that early third
Speaker 1: round range, I typically went in another direction because I
Speaker 1: didn't want to have to make that decision because I
Speaker 1: didn't know which guy it was gonna be. And now
Speaker 1: we're learning, you know, two legitimate wide receivers and be
Speaker 1: very fantasy viable. You know you have is probably gonna
Speaker 1: be a second round pick next year, second third round pick,
Speaker 1: and Adam Feeling is gonna be in early second round pick.
Speaker 1: Fun Digs at ten, you know Adams thirteen, and I
Speaker 1: had Stefon Diggs at thirteen, Feeland at twelve, I had.
Speaker 1: All thirteen of these guys were all super useful for fantasy,
Speaker 1: Like I had Mike Evans at nine, Digs ten, TiO
Speaker 1: Hilton eleven, Tyreek Hill twelve, Adam Feeland thirteen. All those
Speaker 1: guys were valuable this season. Do you try. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I trust Diggs as much as you do.
Speaker 1: For some reason, He's just he's not the same player
Speaker 1: when he gets banged up. I gotta look at his
Speaker 1: game log. I told you, I told you that's I'm
Speaker 1: gonna that's be my thing next year. I look stefon
Speaker 1: Diggs game log because they feel it's been a little inconsistent.
Speaker 1: It was more inconsistent people realized, like definitely so the
Speaker 1: number because the overall numbers are fantastic, right, ninety four
Speaker 1: not a fantastic good ninety four for nine, seventy four
Speaker 1: and eight those are really good. But there are too
Speaker 1: many games that we're three for thirty three. That's bad.
Speaker 1: Week three four for seventeen, Weeks six, three for thirty
Speaker 1: three against the Jets, even for thirty three five for
Speaker 1: forty nine. Were some dozen there, and I mean he
Speaker 1: had eight touchdowns, which I which is good. I don't
Speaker 1: know how well that is. But like even the games
Speaker 1: they touched I'm sorry, even the games he had touchdowns in,
Speaker 1: and I understand that like helps the value obviously three
Speaker 1: forty three with a touchdown he had, I mean it's
Speaker 1: called really good games, of course, but and a touchdown
Speaker 1: that those are I mean game savings. And even even
Speaker 1: that's not enough, right like that in a PPR is
Speaker 1: nine points, that's not enough. So it's like, I'm a
Speaker 1: little colder on Stefon Diggs. I think that I thought
Speaker 1: I would be at this point. And he is wide
Speaker 1: receiver fourteen on the year in terms of points per games,
Speaker 1: so so very good. But more of the high end
Speaker 1: wide receiver too. If you remember, towards the end of
Speaker 1: draft season, Greg, because of pre season, it seemed like
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins was leaning on Stefan Diggs a lot. I
Speaker 1: remember he scored a few touchdowns in the preseason. Stefon
Speaker 1: Diggs was the one who shot up started going in
Speaker 1: the middle of the second round pick. It was a
Speaker 1: very shrewd move by you know, high stakes fantasy players
Speaker 1: starting to really really pull Stefan Digs up to draft board.
Speaker 1: But it didn't work out. Everything that they wanted Stefon
Speaker 1: Diggs to be was what Adam feeling was this season,
Speaker 1: what I'm feeling in points per game? Will receive your
Speaker 1: six overall? Will it happen again? Like given, give me
Speaker 1: the numbers and that's great. Are you confident enough to
Speaker 1: draft Adam feeling where he should be going, which is
Speaker 1: the at the turn of the early part of the
Speaker 1: second round. Are you confident to do that next year?
Speaker 1: I'm very confident out of feeling plays plays a lot
Speaker 1: of his snaps in the slot. You know, we've kind
Speaker 1: of beat the dead horse or feed of fed horse.
Speaker 1: The only the only problem is once again, and I
Speaker 1: know for me, one of the we weren't sure who
Speaker 1: would play the slot in Minnesota and one of the
Speaker 1: question marks we had coming into the season was who
Speaker 1: what the new offense is going to look like with
Speaker 1: the Filippo and Kevin's the Fanski in charge. The Filippo's
Speaker 1: gone to Fansky right now, the offensive cording, there's no
Speaker 1: assurances he will be next year. We don't know who
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator will be in Minnesota next year and
Speaker 1: when they have the same exact questions we had going
Speaker 1: into this year, which you're very frustrating. So the way
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna go with this is, I thought,
Speaker 1: especially if the Vikings win this week and they go
Speaker 1: to the playoffs and that's on the back of like
Speaker 1: running the football a lot, and they brings the fans pack,
Speaker 1: maybe they trend towards more, you know, being a balanced approach,
Speaker 1: more so than passing as much as they did in
Speaker 1: a lot of games this year. So you know, obviously
Speaker 1: more running would lead to less volume than less targets
Speaker 1: for both guys, which could be frustrating. But I think
Speaker 1: Adam feeling just in terms of talent, is warranted early
Speaker 1: to mid second round pick next year. You look at
Speaker 1: here's the thing though, the first half of the season,
Speaker 1: right the first eight games. Remember he went over a
Speaker 1: hundred yards for the first eight games of the season.
Speaker 1: Each game. Now here the next seven twenty two yards
Speaker 1: in a touchdown, sixty six yards no touchdown, one great game,
Speaker 1: twenty eight and one, seventy nineteen yards and zero eight
Speaker 1: and zero. So I know he's kind of dealt with
Speaker 1: like these back injuries, but there's now two years in
Speaker 1: a row. But we're like he's kind of trailed off
Speaker 1: in the second half of season, awesome, awesome, awesome, like
Speaker 1: ridiculous first half of the season, Like first eight games
Speaker 1: he was the wide receiver one overall, everyone had him
Speaker 1: like a first round pick. Any it's the next year,
Speaker 1: but you gotta look at the season in totality and
Speaker 1: as consistent as he was in the first half, a
Speaker 1: little bit more in consistent. And second, let's take a
Speaker 1: break when we come back and we joined my inside
Speaker 1: injuries is dr a uh talk about all the latest
Speaker 1: injuries with us week and then a little bit later on,
Speaker 1: didn't win the wide receivers and what we're thinking for
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Speaker 1: And before we hit on all the nfl H news
Speaker 1: week seventeen and into the playoffs, I want to start
Speaker 1: with the biggest injury this week. And there was Lebron
Speaker 1: James on Christmas who said quote he felt he's growing
Speaker 1: pop now he had an m R I, said that
Speaker 1: it's day to day, might miss a couple of games.
Speaker 1: What's going on with Lebron's groin? Yeah, it's a Grade
Speaker 1: one growing injury. Um, even though the m R I
Speaker 1: is clean, it probably showed a little strain within the
Speaker 1: growing musculature. And you know that's that's fine. In basketball,
Speaker 1: it's completely different world than NFL. UM. You know they
Speaker 1: are fair. You know the way they treat injuries like this,
Speaker 1: especially with a superstar like this, and that the fact
Speaker 1: that there's only twelve members on a team, they will
Speaker 1: be very intented it with this, and you know it's
Speaker 1: going to be. Um, you know right now, he's at
Speaker 1: fifty percent right now, Um, you know it will take
Speaker 1: a game off, will be day to day, and you'll
Speaker 1: see that HPF start to escalate quickly into the seventies
Speaker 1: and then back up into the eighties. He looks like
Speaker 1: he'll be probably if my if our guests is we're
Speaker 1: looking at about two weeks, two weeks, two heeks isn't bad.
Speaker 1: They're gonna obviously be very very careful. As um dr
Speaker 1: A just said, with Lebron's growing the completion on the team,
Speaker 1: Lebron is that team, they have to make sure he's healthy.
Speaker 1: I don't think you've seem back on the court until
Speaker 1: he's fully ready to rock. Yeah, it's just so crazy, right.
Speaker 1: We don't normally ever deal with injuries with Lebron James.
Speaker 1: So for just for your NBA fans out there were
Speaker 1: fantasy basketball players who own Lebron James. We also had
Speaker 1: an injury to reach on Rondo last night, so perhaps
Speaker 1: we've seen an uptaking production from guys like Kyle Kuzma,
Speaker 1: brandon ingram Alonzo, Ball, etcetera. Doc let's get into the
Speaker 1: football news. James Conner practicing in full this week. I
Speaker 1: know that we've been waiting a while now. A lot
Speaker 1: of people might be playing in DFS. This Steelers still
Speaker 1: have a lot to play for this week against the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, and it's a good matchup. So whether you're
Speaker 1: still playing season long in Week seventeen or DFS, I
Speaker 1: think James Conner is going to be a good play,
Speaker 1: assuming your algorithm says that he's good to go this week.
Speaker 1: He is. This is great. UM. I mean he's seventy
Speaker 1: right now, which is very close to peak. Our peak
Speaker 1: starts at eighty, so by game time, you know, he'll
Speaker 1: be very close to peak, maybe seventy. So they've done
Speaker 1: everything right here in terms of this specific injury. So
Speaker 1: look for him to have, um, you know, at least
Speaker 1: not the injury impacting his play. You know, the other
Speaker 1: teams defense could have an impact on that, but you know, um,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who they're playing this week and what
Speaker 1: the status of that defense is. But from his perspective,
Speaker 1: he has. He's nearly completely healed from this high ankle
Speaker 1: sprain and should be good to go, right, so it's
Speaker 1: about time he gets back behind ankles. Well, well, doctor,
Speaker 1: the Steelers are facing the Bengals and they don't have
Speaker 1: a defense, so it looks like it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: pretty good uh, pretty good for James Conner. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be good for James Connor. He's been or by one
Speaker 1: all season long. But what about the RB one off
Speaker 1: season long that's been Todd Gurley. He was a late
Speaker 1: scratch on Sunday, He worked out in pregame warmups at
Speaker 1: four o'clock. So you know what, I want to take
Speaker 1: a game off? How serious is the injury to Todd Gurley?
Speaker 1: And should they rest him another week? Because they do
Speaker 1: and they wind up winning, being the four niners. You
Speaker 1: think it's another week off next week before they have
Speaker 1: to play again in two weeks. And I've assumed he'd
Speaker 1: be fully healed. Then what's up? What's Todd Gurley? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Girley, we projected him back at week seventeen, so
Speaker 1: you know he is right now at seventy six percent
Speaker 1: and you know, about four percentage points from peak health.
Speaker 1: So you know, this is more of a gut check
Speaker 1: for him, I believe, but from the statistics and from
Speaker 1: a medical perspective of game time, he should be He
Speaker 1: should have healed completely from this particular injury. Now he's
Speaker 1: he is at sixteen percent elevated injury risks, so you
Speaker 1: know that's not going to change. So he obviously he
Speaker 1: is a a little bit. He's not a low injury
Speaker 1: risk player, but you know, from this particular injury you
Speaker 1: will be back up to which is peak health in
Speaker 1: in our books. So he should be ready to go.
Speaker 1: So this is more of like a game time decision
Speaker 1: kind of you know, you know, sort of a gut
Speaker 1: feel by him, but medically speaking, he should be good
Speaker 1: to go, all right, So pretty good news for Tal Girley.
Speaker 1: Medically speaking, he should be ready to rock the Rams.
Speaker 1: Doing the right thing giving him out last week, getting
Speaker 1: him a hundred percent or as close to hundred percent
Speaker 1: healthy as you can get this time of the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but make sure again if you are playing in week
Speaker 1: sevent seen or plan on playing DFS c J. Anderson
Speaker 1: played the Snaps last week. He was amazing rushes for
Speaker 1: a hundred sixty seven yards and a touchdown. So if
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley can't go or they just want to be
Speaker 1: you know, super safe with him. C J. Anderson obviously
Speaker 1: the next man up, who performed very very well in
Speaker 1: Week sixteen. I want to ask you about Eric Ebron
Speaker 1: the also important play in game for the Indianapolis called
Speaker 1: playing Sunday Night Football against the Tennessee Titans. Eric Ebron
Speaker 1: has been awesome for fantasy owners all season long because
Speaker 1: of his ability to score touchdowns and do work in
Speaker 1: the red zone. But can we depend on Eric you
Speaker 1: brought to be out there as he's dealing with a
Speaker 1: concussion issue. Yeah, so, you know, the good news for
Speaker 1: him is that he has not had a concussion or
Speaker 1: documented concussion that we could find in the NFL. He's
Speaker 1: had multiple other injuries, but he's not had a documented concussion,
Speaker 1: which is amazing if you think about it. But um,
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, right now, he has a Grade
Speaker 1: one concussion which does require a two week optimal recovery time.
Speaker 1: Wild Card round is where we feel like he'll be
Speaker 1: optimally recovered. Which is a conundrum now for the cult
Speaker 1: because you know the guy, he you know, they're taking
Speaker 1: a chance and a risk for to get him if
Speaker 1: he does play this week, because he's not going to
Speaker 1: be fully recovered from this concussion. He may pass, you know,
Speaker 1: concussion protocol. I don't think he's as he I don't
Speaker 1: think he's cleared concussion protocol yet. I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: he has or not. Um, but he was limited Wednesday
Speaker 1: in practice and so um, what we're looking at is
Speaker 1: week eighteen, not this week, which, unfortun and only for
Speaker 1: the cults is sort of a very difficult decision for
Speaker 1: them to make. But he will not be at a
Speaker 1: percent if he does play this week. Obviously, the Colts
Speaker 1: needs to win this week in Tennessee on Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 1: They could be without Eric Ebron due to that concussion.
Speaker 1: We'll see how quickly that he could get back. Um,
Speaker 1: that is the question. They can't play him unless he
Speaker 1: passes the protocol. We'll see what happens. But speaking of
Speaker 1: that game on Sunday Night Football, we're talking to dr
Speaker 1: from inside injuries. We know Andrew Luck will be out there.
Speaker 1: He's had a fantastic season, probably the comeback player of
Speaker 1: the year. Qutter back on the other side of banged
Speaker 1: up all season long. That's Marcus Mariota. He's had major
Speaker 1: nerve issues throughout this season. We've heard it's been about
Speaker 1: his elbow. He's had a couple of stingers. He had
Speaker 1: his latest one on Sunday. He said he couldn't feel, Um,
Speaker 1: he's thumb. And this is when a recurring issue. Now
Speaker 1: from Marcus Mariota. What's going on and is he gonna
Speaker 1: be out there on Sunday night? Yeah, you know, his
Speaker 1: his condition needs a lot more work up. That's probably
Speaker 1: off season directed. Um, you know, there shouldn't be a
Speaker 1: reason why he continuously has these stingers and what that
Speaker 1: results and is probably something more from a spinal standpoint
Speaker 1: that's kind of underdiagnosed. Maybe that's what that's what our
Speaker 1: thoughts are. And so because this is his third nerve
Speaker 1: injury this season, there has to be something going on
Speaker 1: with the spine that they're not releasing and that you
Speaker 1: you probably will hear about something like this in the
Speaker 1: off season and he requires some sort of spine surgery
Speaker 1: or some intervention, et cetera. So, I mean, he did
Speaker 1: not practice Wednesday. He should not play in this game,
Speaker 1: which again is bad is bad news for the Titans
Speaker 1: because I think they have to win this game to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and so um, you know, uh right now,
Speaker 1: for a stinger like this, it's a great two stinger
Speaker 1: with the other two previous ones, it's a four week
Speaker 1: recovery time. So this is a conundrum for the Titans
Speaker 1: is you know, we're slating him for January twenty to
Speaker 1: be back, and so um, he's at thirty eight percent.
Speaker 1: He is not going to be anywhere above or close
Speaker 1: to it by game time. You know this is this
Speaker 1: is a definite not play for Mariota from a medical standpoint.
Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens. I think conundrum is the
Speaker 1: right word to use here, Greg when it comes to
Speaker 1: markets Mariota and the Titans, because they have to weigh
Speaker 1: obviously this is a win in their in game, they
Speaker 1: need to wait, if you know, Mariota at like fifty
Speaker 1: health actually gives them a better chance to win than
Speaker 1: like Blake gabber a right, And it's honestly a decision
Speaker 1: that they're going to have to make. So we saw
Speaker 1: a team like the Panthers who wasn't playing for anything,
Speaker 1: like Cam Newton was not making them better, he was
Speaker 1: actually making them worst while trying to play through an injury.
Speaker 1: And they obviously rested him. But and yeah, and honestly,
Speaker 1: guys started to interrupt. But I will tell you, knowing
Speaker 1: the coaches in the NFL and knowing how these guys think, Um,
Speaker 1: it's basically game of chicken. If Mariota doesn't play, a
Speaker 1: Brown doesn't. If Mariota plays, Ebrown plays. So uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's toll because even as in the protocol they don't,
Speaker 1: it's not really there is choice. I think, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to clear, He's gonna have to clear protocol.
Speaker 1: But I think the fact that dr Ry brought up
Speaker 1: Iron hasn't had a documented concussion in his NFL career. Um, again, concussions.
Speaker 1: Every concussion is different, like they can take longer than others.
Speaker 1: But I think that very fact me, I think it
Speaker 1: bodes well for Ebron being cleared here for Sunday Night football.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you something more so for next
Speaker 1: year for keeper and dynasty leagues. Philip Lindsay was a pleasant,
Speaker 1: pleasant surprise for fantasy owners this year, picking him up
Speaker 1: off the waiver wire undrafted rookie free agent for the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. He's the top twelve running back this year.
Speaker 1: He's been great. Now, I know I'm gonna butcher this
Speaker 1: name here, but honestly, I've never heard of it. So
Speaker 1: you can help me out. A scaphoid fracture or a
Speaker 1: scaphoid fracture or something like that. He has ligament damage
Speaker 1: in his risk, he's facing a lengthy recovery. Apparently he's
Speaker 1: gonna be rehabbing for from this for the next four
Speaker 1: to six months. Will he be good to go for
Speaker 1: next year? And how do you pronounce that word? Yes,
Speaker 1: it's not so Uh, it was close. It was pretty good,
Speaker 1: pretty good though. Um. No, that's so. That's one of
Speaker 1: the bones within the rist uh Um. It's one of
Speaker 1: the central bones. Um. And when they talk about ligament damage, um,
Speaker 1: there's a bone next to the skate foid called the
Speaker 1: lunate bone. And there's a ligament that attaches those two
Speaker 1: bones together. That is the ligament that is likely torn
Speaker 1: and uh and that's that usually happens with a skate
Speaker 1: foid fracture. Here's the problem, guys. This does take about
Speaker 1: six months to heal, but the skate foid is a
Speaker 1: massively difficult bone to heal um even after surgery, because
Speaker 1: the blood supplied to the portions of the skatefoid are
Speaker 1: very limited, so it can develop necrosis and if that happens,
Speaker 1: then his career is in jeopardy in terms of that,
Speaker 1: or he'll learn have to learn to carry the ball
Speaker 1: with his other hand, other risks. But um, you know
Speaker 1: that's why it's a very complicated type of injury. It's
Speaker 1: a freak injury. Like this is something that is unpredictable,
Speaker 1: you know, you know these types of injuries, this type
Speaker 1: of specific injury. It's like a very freak type of play.
Speaker 1: And you know, um, so yeah, six months six we're
Speaker 1: predicting about six to eight months, depending upon how his
Speaker 1: recovery and surgery are, will have will be more accurate
Speaker 1: in terms of when, what type of surgery and what
Speaker 1: kind of how successful as surgery is. But we're looking
Speaker 1: at at least um July, possibly August, maybe not even
Speaker 1: ready for training. You know, it's probably gonna be in September.
Speaker 1: He'll miss some time next year. It's crazy because when
Speaker 1: you hear about um a broken wrist, you think, all right, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, he's still trained, he can still run.
Speaker 1: At least it's not his knees. He's not his legs.
Speaker 1: But the broken ridge alright, carry the ball, and so
Speaker 1: we deal that is as bad as reporters. We've gotten
Speaker 1: a long time here from Dr Ready regards to Philip Lindsay.
Speaker 1: So tough news there to dry from. He's on injuries.
Speaker 1: Let's big, we're positive, right, Let's let's be cheerful. Now
Speaker 1: we can pick me up. Hunter Henry towards a c
Speaker 1: l back. Long before the season began, they acted activated
Speaker 1: him off the pup list with the idea that if
Speaker 1: they're playing in the first round next week, week eight,
Speaker 1: if you will, the first week of January, he would
Speaker 1: be eligible to play in it. He's been practicing now
Speaker 1: for two weeks. He's obviously not playing this weekend. Hen
Speaker 1: we're gonna play next week, doc, so medically speaking, he should,
Speaker 1: um you know, we had him slate it back to
Speaker 1: come in mid uh to end of November, and so
Speaker 1: now we're sitting here in mid December, late December, and
Speaker 1: he hasn't played. I think from a precautionary standpoint, uh
Speaker 1: not from a medically there's no medical, potential medical reason
Speaker 1: why he would not be playing since mid to late November.
Speaker 1: But he's at night HPF, which is the highest you
Speaker 1: can possibly have in our system. And so he's done
Speaker 1: his job. He's recovered, he's rested, he's rehabbed, he's taking
Speaker 1: it slow, and you know, he's at eleven percent injury
Speaker 1: risk and so it's low and so he's at low
Speaker 1: and peak. He's ready to go, guys, and the Chargers
Speaker 1: should definitely use them. Wow. So Honter Henry, after all
Speaker 1: this time, works his way back from the brutal a
Speaker 1: c L injury and he's, like we said, he return
Speaker 1: to practice on Monday, December seventeenth. It is now Thursday,
Speaker 1: December twenty one. Window twenty one day window is going
Speaker 1: to be up next week for the playoffs, and he
Speaker 1: should be healthy and ready to rock you again. Toward
Speaker 1: that a c l um. Let me see, turned that
Speaker 1: eight season back in May, I believe, right, so May.
Speaker 1: So it's pretty moculous recovery, right about seven eight months
Speaker 1: getting back. Yeah, Now, we have seen players do that,
Speaker 1: particularly baseball. Kyle Schwoberz certainly comes to mind. Played Dhows
Speaker 1: a little bit different, but the very very impressive. If
Speaker 1: Enery doesn get back in the field in January for
Speaker 1: the first week of the playoffs, Frank, yeah, keep that
Speaker 1: in mind for those playing in like playoff Fantasy football
Speaker 1: pools as well. Maybe he doesn't see the full compliment
Speaker 1: of snaps, but always been a red zone weapon, four
Speaker 1: filled rivers as long as he's been in the NFL.
Speaker 1: A very brief career of a good new news, especially
Speaker 1: for those of you who own him Innkeeper and dynasty
Speaker 1: leagues as well. One more I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: about Doc was Tevin Coleman. Just for those still playing
Speaker 1: dfs this week Week seventeen, They're going up against of
Speaker 1: a base so it's a good matchup. And if Tevin
Speaker 1: Coleman can't go, Ryan Hill just ran eight times for
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifteen yards a week ago and would
Speaker 1: presumably see a full work would here. If Tevin Coleman
Speaker 1: can't go, he's dealing with a groin injury as well.
Speaker 1: Did not practice yesterday. What's the latest song, Tevin Coleman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a huge red flag. I mean, um, if
Speaker 1: I was you know, if if I was the coach
Speaker 1: of the Falcons, I would not even think about playing
Speaker 1: Kevin Tevin Coleman. I mean, this is one of those
Speaker 1: games you play the last game of the season and
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna go with a groin strain and boom,
Speaker 1: he makes it, make it worse, and it causes a
Speaker 1: much more significant injury. You know he's at fort right now. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's the last game of the season. There's no reason
Speaker 1: for him to be on the field. Doc. Last question
Speaker 1: comes from me, and it's about going into next season. Here,
Speaker 1: Marius times, it looks like ruptures achilles. How similar is
Speaker 1: this to his teammate X team Immanuel Standards hurting his
Speaker 1: achilles just a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, the injuries
Speaker 1: are the same, but it's really going to depend upon
Speaker 1: how much of that original tendon is torn and sort
Speaker 1: of demolished. If they have to use a graph cadaver
Speaker 1: graph or some sort, that recovery is so much longer
Speaker 1: than if they have if they can use a native
Speaker 1: graph or piece of tendon from his own body. So
Speaker 1: that's going to make the biggest difference of how much
Speaker 1: damage was caused and what's the extent of the achilles tear.
Speaker 1: There's still like a grade of full thickness and partial
Speaker 1: thickness and retracted versus non retracted, and how much blood
Speaker 1: there is, etcetera. So I mean that's it's all gonna
Speaker 1: depend on not so that even though the injury is
Speaker 1: the same, they can have very very different recovery periods.
Speaker 1: Interesting there, Greg, you feel for to Mary Thomas, and
Speaker 1: on the surface you would just assume to Mary Thomas
Speaker 1: is older than the man of fingers, right, welly the
Speaker 1: same angel, see me? Yeah, the way I have to
Speaker 1: say that. One more player, Spencer Ware, I want to
Speaker 1: say this. He is healthy right to go this weekend
Speaker 1: into the playoffs for Kansas City. Doc. We appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: of the year. Were relaxed, Yes, it was pretty relaxed,
Speaker 1: relaxed day. I got every thumb pretty early. It was nice. Oh, absolutely,
Speaker 1: it was great. I went about on the couch. The
Speaker 1: rhythm if you you have big rhythm on Monday, on
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve that continued into yesterday. Today will not be
Speaker 1: one of those names, but I think tomorrow could. Oh,
Speaker 1: Summer Friday, I think in the middle of winter. Listen,
Speaker 1: I think if we if we work on it again,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't it be we don't have anything crazy to do.
Speaker 1: We just probably have an NBA Fantasy Friday we have
Speaker 1: to do. But if we don't fill it in here,
Speaker 1: maybe would have just do in the morning. It would
Speaker 1: be cool. I would be like, awesome, pull that you happen.
Speaker 1: See what we can do. I think we can. I
Speaker 1: think we can make it happen. Actually, all right, so
Speaker 1: let's um, let's continue one. And you mentioned before teammates, right,
Speaker 1: Adam feeling it's the fon Diggs. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: about another set of teammates and next year and this
Speaker 1: year when we got wrong and what we got right,
Speaker 1: and where we're headed next year. Okay, okay, Robert Woods,
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, Cooper Cup come into this year. You had
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks ranked number twenty eight, was definitely out on
Speaker 1: him and definitely wrong. You had Cooper Cup at thirty three,
Speaker 1: and you had Robert Woods at thirty four, so you
Speaker 1: ranked it Cooks, Cup, Woods all inside your top thirty
Speaker 1: six all wide receiver threes, all from twenty to thirty four,
Speaker 1: so pretty close bunch together. Cooks a slight tear above
Speaker 1: Um Cup and Woods going into neck steer. How would
Speaker 1: you write those three? You know, you don't give me
Speaker 1: what number they are now, but like how would you
Speaker 1: rank just those three? So I'm actually I'm actually on
Speaker 1: the Inside Injuries website to see when they would have
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup as like a safe to return, Like when
Speaker 1: do you think Cooper Coup would return next year? Because
Speaker 1: I think that obviously changed a lot. So he tours
Speaker 1: a c L in November, early November. I think it's
Speaker 1: all right, yes, so early November, these guys are returnally.
Speaker 1: We just spoke about Henry right, so December, January, April, May,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be good to go. I think he'll be
Speaker 1: find a training camp. I think we find a training camp.
Speaker 1: Inside Injuries has his healthy to return one, okay, so
Speaker 1: that would be fine for training camp. Like he's good
Speaker 1: to go in July. Um just for the just just
Speaker 1: for transparency's sake, for the record, I had Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: actually the highest of both of those. I hadn't met
Speaker 1: twenty three Adams, a wide receiver two points per game
Speaker 1: right now, so it's pret there. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: had Al Robinson and Chris Hogan in front of him.
Speaker 1: So whatever. Um, I had Cooks twenty three. I had
Speaker 1: Robert Woods at eight. Hey, I guess that was the
Speaker 1: lowest Cooper Cup. So I was dead wrong there. Just
Speaker 1: to be clear, I think Cooper Cup is gonna be
Speaker 1: one healthy and I'm not gonna say that he's not
Speaker 1: like an uber athletic guy, but I think he is.
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that can come back from
Speaker 1: the a c L and be like good like. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna affect his game all that much
Speaker 1: because kind of like doing like he plays the slot
Speaker 1: wide receiver. There's definitely no other parallels between Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: and Julian Edelman white slot receivers, right, I mean, like
Speaker 1: I was making a joke, I'm thinking, well, but I
Speaker 1: think it's like a fair comparison, all right, So honestly,
Speaker 1: I would I would rank it Cup Woods Cooks really
Speaker 1: is gonna be number one for me. Interesting, Let's look
Speaker 1: at the way that he was performing right while all
Speaker 1: three were on the field together. Now, Robert Woods is
Speaker 1: wide receiver twelve this season in points per game. He
Speaker 1: has surpassed Cooper Cup because Cooper Cup hasn't been playing,
Speaker 1: so he's seen more targets uber consistent. Love that out
Speaker 1: of Robert Woods. Let's not forget Cooper Cup is healthy.
Speaker 1: He is Jared Goffs go to guy. I don't know
Speaker 1: he is. Greg. I don't know about that man. So
Speaker 1: I owned the only one I did. He led the
Speaker 1: team in red zone targets. He led the team in
Speaker 1: targets overall, was also very consistent. So what's really interesting
Speaker 1: about this? Well for fifty two and one, six sixty three,
Speaker 1: four for seventy one and one, nine sixty two and two,
Speaker 1: six ninety one. Then he got hurt against Denver, came
Speaker 1: back the next week, still played well five eight, nine
Speaker 1: and one, and then the last time we saw him
Speaker 1: was Seattle five for thirty nine and zero, but he
Speaker 1: was probably playing hurt. He was great, He was great,
Speaker 1: He was awesome. Paul and Paul for one second, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get back to my promise you. Brandon Cooks the
Speaker 1: fantasy seat. His fantasy season is over for all intensive purposes.
Speaker 1: Seventy one eleven hundred and three Robert Woods four hundred
Speaker 1: and six. That's just receiving. I think it doesn't count
Speaker 1: the score touchdown. I didn't even know that he had
Speaker 1: that few. Wow, Cook so Woods had one rushing touchdown,
Speaker 1: Cooks had one rushing touchdowns. They're equal to me, Brandon
Speaker 1: Cooks and Robert Woods basically the same. Robert would scores
Speaker 1: more touchdowns, double the amount. But we talk a lot
Speaker 1: about touchdowns being kind of flukey. Do you not think
Speaker 1: this is one of those one of those they're all
Speaker 1: kind of intertwined rights. What we talked about what the
Speaker 1: Rams wide receivers all season long. It's like Sean McVey
Speaker 1: lines all three of these guys that went healthy allots
Speaker 1: and they all kind of do their thing, and it's
Speaker 1: like a game to game basis, like based on all right, well,
Speaker 1: if this game they're versing a team that has like
Speaker 1: we know that Brandon Cooks has struggled against fast cornerbacks
Speaker 1: in his career, Like if they have an elite cornerback,
Speaker 1: maybe that's the game where like they attack more of
Speaker 1: the slot with like a Cooper cop Robert Woods. So
Speaker 1: what I think is really interesting, And again I'm all
Speaker 1: about game logs, right, That's that's what I'm about. So
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks despite having less, despite having less yards about
Speaker 1: sixty less yards or fifty less yards then Robert Woods
Speaker 1: this year Brandy Cooks has five yard receiving games, Robert
Speaker 1: Woods as three. Okay, it's pretty interesting, but Robert Woods
Speaker 1: overall is more consistent. Getting to that, Brandon Cooks has
Speaker 1: games where he did not catch a pass. We had
Speaker 1: two for fifty three, three for seventy four, four sixty two,
Speaker 1: three two, three for thirty five. Brandon Cooks has not
Speaker 1: caught a touchdown. He ran. We rushed for one week
Speaker 1: in I don't know what week is because I don't
Speaker 1: using fantasy data, and week he rushed for one week eleven.
Speaker 1: He has not scored since then. He's fantasy playoffs are
Speaker 1: three for twenty two, six or fifty nine and three
Speaker 1: for thirty five. Not helping people win chips. But to
Speaker 1: be fair, the whole Ram's offense has not been definitely
Speaker 1: definitely outside of Robert Woods. He's actually he's played through everything.
Speaker 1: He's been. Know what people like about Robert Woods is
Speaker 1: that if you's a week one was awful, was three
Speaker 1: for thirty seven. Since week one, he has caught five.
Speaker 1: This is in every single game, and he's had at
Speaker 1: least sixty yards receiving in every single game. Now Robert
Speaker 1: Woods touchdowns have come in bunches, right, he had three
Speaker 1: in weeks three and four, and then he had back
Speaker 1: to back in week UM twelve and thirteen. Nothing in
Speaker 1: the middle of the year at all, and then obviously
Speaker 1: one last week or two last week, one rushing, one receiving,
Speaker 1: so again very similar. And then you bring in Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup and how that dynamic would have changed things. Now
Speaker 1: I want to bring up specifically the beginning of the
Speaker 1: year because that's when Cooper Cup was most healthy. If
Speaker 1: you look at the beginning of the year, um, it
Speaker 1: particularly September where he was totally healthy. He had the
Speaker 1: most touchdowns of these guys, right, he had four touchdowns
Speaker 1: in September, Cooks had one. Woods did have four. He
Speaker 1: built him up. So Cooks in the least amount of
Speaker 1: touchdowns in September. When you look at yards, it was
Speaker 1: Woods and Cup that was the most consistent. If I
Speaker 1: have to choose one, I think the one that I
Speaker 1: want the least is probably Brandon Cooks. I agree with you,
Speaker 1: and I think he's going to be the one that's
Speaker 1: drafted first just because of the name. His name is
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, and people are gonna think, all right, well,
Speaker 1: second year in mcveigh's offense like he's going to improve,
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the first one drafted of these guys.
Speaker 1: Now where they all drafted? That's the question, right because
Speaker 1: last this this year, we had trouble trying to figure
Speaker 1: out who the Vikings main wide receiver was gonna be,
Speaker 1: right and those both both of those guys were going
Speaker 1: in the third round and there was only two. Now
Speaker 1: there's three. You're gonna have to differentiate. But definitely me personally,
Speaker 1: I would think, and I could see all these guys,
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of water ship. I would
Speaker 1: think Brandon Cooks is like a third rounder and the
Speaker 1: other two are like four rounders. Oh as do you
Speaker 1: think they go? Not what their value is. I literally
Speaker 1: can see all three of these got to go back
Speaker 1: to back to back like it. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the water spiers, have no idea how it's going to
Speaker 1: have it rank in August, but I can see the
Speaker 1: thing is like, how do you differentiation to week basis?
Speaker 1: It's very hard. I don't think there's like rhyme a reason.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think it's gonna come down to
Speaker 1: if you want to go through the defensive matchups that
Speaker 1: they're gonna face and say, well, this is the game
Speaker 1: exactly what you want? As much as much exposure to
Speaker 1: offenses like the Rams and the Cheese and the Saints
Speaker 1: as you could, probably would you draft two of them?
Speaker 1: Like would you if you're at that three four turn,
Speaker 1: let's say around that, would you drift two of them?
Speaker 1: What you just told me? What as much exposure as
Speaker 1: you can get? I think? Isn't this a little bit
Speaker 1: different though? Because there's only there's almost like like you
Speaker 1: want at least one, like you want some exposure. But
Speaker 1: the thing is, if you are, they gonna be passed, Like,
Speaker 1: what's the passing volumes gonna be? Like, are they gonna
Speaker 1: pass all that much that like it could support for
Speaker 1: three of these guys on a weekly basis. I think
Speaker 1: maybe there might be like, like one of these guys
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be left out every single week? Are
Speaker 1: you gonna be able to figure that? And so if
Speaker 1: you have Robert Wood and Cooks are your team, you're
Speaker 1: taking a chance on having like because they're on the
Speaker 1: same team together, you're taking that chance that all right,
Speaker 1: I have It's it's less likely that both of these
Speaker 1: guys go off in the same game. It's fair than
Speaker 1: it is like having Mike Evans and one of them.
Speaker 1: And that's just because there's three. Because I think you'd
Speaker 1: happily take like Juju Antonio Brown on the same team obviously, Um,
Speaker 1: how about this through week five this year, Cooper cups
Speaker 1: wide receiver two over. So I did it this year.
Speaker 1: I owned Robert Woods and Cooper Cup together on a team,
Speaker 1: and it took me like three weeks before I started
Speaker 1: both of them consistently. And I would have leave you
Speaker 1: it again in a honesty, and my answer is yes,
Speaker 1: I would happily do it, because when you take these
Speaker 1: great offenses, you just get so much production and half PPR.
Speaker 1: All three of them are inside the top twenty two,
Speaker 1: so they're all at least wide receiver two's and I
Speaker 1: think that's where their value is gonna live. Like right like,
Speaker 1: Robert Woods is not a wide receiver one for fantasy.
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, as good as he was to the first
Speaker 1: five weeks of this season, I don't think he's a
Speaker 1: wide receiver one for fantasy. Like, no one's drafting this
Speaker 1: guy in late second, early third round, at least I
Speaker 1: don't think so. As of right now. I think they're
Speaker 1: more of like fourth thronis. I think they're I think
Speaker 1: there's I think there are three four turn picks and
Speaker 1: I think their wide receiver twos and depending on your
Speaker 1: running now it's three four turn next year, Robert Woods
Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup give me both. It's possible, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's certainly better than Dreth, than Kenny and Jake and
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan. Yeah, I'm a little bit I'm not as
Speaker 1: optimistic as you in drafting both of them because we've
Speaker 1: kind of seen some cracks in the mcveigh's offense, like
Speaker 1: people are trying to start and figure it out a
Speaker 1: little bit. I think the fact they lost Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: actually contributes to the fact that people are starting to
Speaker 1: figure this offense out, because Cooper Cup is a huge
Speaker 1: piece definitely, so losing him, you know, that was pivotal
Speaker 1: for this team. But yeah, I just uh, I just
Speaker 1: think it kind of like limits the upside. Right, let's
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Speaker 1: it's funny because we're talking about the Rams, right, and
Speaker 1: all a bunch of together. We talked about the Vikings,
Speaker 1: and we talked about the Steelers. There was one more
Speaker 1: team that you get a couple of pieces on we
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily know how to rank. Then. If you remember,
Speaker 1: frank there was a Detroit Lions with Golden Tate, Marvin Jones,
Speaker 1: and Kenny Golladay. The exact question you asked me is
Speaker 1: how likely is it all three of these guys finished
Speaker 1: inside the top four. It's not very It was not
Speaker 1: very likely. It seems Golden Tate gets traded away, Marvin
Speaker 1: Jones gets hurt, and it's actually Kenny Golladay that emerges
Speaker 1: the number one wide receiver. I had Golden Tate rank
Speaker 1: is my seventeenth highest wide receiver on the board this year. Um, you,
Speaker 1: Frankie had let me find your rankings. You had Golden Tee,
Speaker 1: I am you're gold twenty three. You're Golden Tate twenty three,
Speaker 1: and you had Marvin at many very very close together.
Speaker 1: It's not very high on the Lions passing attack Kenny
Speaker 1: Gollady all the way down at fifty four. For me,
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay was always down at fifty one. So we're
Speaker 1: both very very similar in there. What is Kenny Gallady?
Speaker 1: Next year? Kenny Golladay should be a target monster again.
Speaker 1: I do think Marvin Jones will be back with the team.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that that hurts Kenny Golladay. I
Speaker 1: think the fact that he's on the field can actually
Speaker 1: help a little bit because as we're seeing now, you know,
Speaker 1: Kenny Gollady with their targets he's getting, he's been a
Speaker 1: little inefficient, he's kind of banged up. That also comes
Speaker 1: down to Stafford, who has not played well this year
Speaker 1: at all, So he needs to get healthy and he
Speaker 1: needs to rebound next season as well. But can they
Speaker 1: support to top twenty top thirty wide receivers. I think
Speaker 1: that's possible. I do think I think Kenny Gollady might
Speaker 1: be a little bit overhyped because people are going to
Speaker 1: forget about Marvin Jones and they're just kind of looking
Speaker 1: at the physical being that is in the Galady. They're
Speaker 1: going to kind of fall in love with that. I
Speaker 1: think he's I think he could go in the same
Speaker 1: range as like those rams wide receivers. I could see
Speaker 1: that happening in the fourth round. But I think Marvin
Speaker 1: Jones is actually if you're getting the two or three
Speaker 1: round count on him, you're getting him in like the
Speaker 1: six or seventh round next year. I think that's something
Speaker 1: I might be in a yeah, and that you're getting
Speaker 1: the value that. I think Henny Galladay is gonna be
Speaker 1: one of these guys. I think people remember the build
Speaker 1: and that people remember some of the awesome catches and
Speaker 1: that strength, and people look at like um Marius Thomas,
Speaker 1: how big he is. Right, I don't want to I
Speaker 1: don't want to like downplay that either, because Henny Allady
Speaker 1: is gonna be a great player. He definitely is, like
Speaker 1: he has Like the build is awesome, Like you should
Speaker 1: be excited about that. If you haven't been keeper dynasty,
Speaker 1: you should be. I just worried that people are gonna
Speaker 1: buy that a little bit too much, and I don't,
Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't know how much exposure I'm
Speaker 1: gonna want to. Like the Lions offense Arian Johnson, I
Speaker 1: think it's awesome, but has actually been injury prone. Now
Speaker 1: going back to his days at college. So as much
Speaker 1: as you like carry on, it's like, we need to
Speaker 1: see something from in the off season. Whether you know
Speaker 1: they changed the O c um, they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: have some some big preseason games or something for us
Speaker 1: to buy back in because Matthew Stafford just looked atrocious season.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford like, absolutely horrific. Kenny Golladay, Um, again, you're
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right right. I don't want to like put
Speaker 1: Holliday down in any way, but he's gonna be one
Speaker 1: of these names that I think it was a little
Speaker 1: bit higher than they should now. Again, I thought last
Speaker 1: year that guy was gonna be Juju Smith Schuster and
Speaker 1: Judy Smith Schuster, which just voted uh, the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: MVP on this season, which I think is a little
Speaker 1: crazy that I thought Ben as we had just talked
Speaker 1: about Um and the Peter Peter reporters are actually going
Speaker 1: nuts that it's not Ben Um. But I think Hendy
Speaker 1: Alladay could be next year's Juju Smith Schuster and Jazz,
Speaker 1: which is certainly not an indictment anyway. It's actually, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yes, that's one that was a similarity that
Speaker 1: kind of now that they play the same position. But
Speaker 1: that kind of came to mind, and I mean slot
Speaker 1: um wide receivers. Frank, we have two minutes now left
Speaker 1: Um in the program. What's next for his Golden Tape
Speaker 1: is gonna depend on where he ends up. And then
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones as, where do you think a good landing
Speaker 1: spot would be for golden tape? Just kind of like
Speaker 1: throwing you on the spot kind of thing. Yeah, where
Speaker 1: where's a good landing spot for golden tape? Team that
Speaker 1: can use? Maybe a team that has really a really
Speaker 1: good weapon on the outside but needs a reliable slot receiver,
Speaker 1: So the Jets here is not bad Jets come to mind,
Speaker 1: the Jets to need a number one wide. Like as
Speaker 1: much as we like Robbie, he's not a typical number
Speaker 1: one wide receiver for NFL purposes, but there's no wide
Speaker 1: receiver out there this year to go grab. That's that
Speaker 1: kind of yeah. But that's why I do think that
Speaker 1: the Jets will be in on the trade market, whether
Speaker 1: it's with like a j Green or Bona saying the
Speaker 1: Bears in my ear, I think they can develop the
Speaker 1: guy that they want to be that just scrolling through here, Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I mean, Baltimore also needs like a number one wide receiver,
Speaker 1: so I don't think that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: He's Mark Cooper free agent right now. Inianapolis have a
Speaker 1: lot of money to spend. T Y Hilton also like
Speaker 1: to the tight ends a lot, But I think that's
Speaker 1: something that can make a lot of sense. Sure, Look
Speaker 1: and then Marvin Jones, do you have me valion next year?
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones, I'm I'm telling you if you're getting two
Speaker 1: or three round discount on Marvin Jones next year, it's
Speaker 1: compared to Kenny Gallady. That's something that I'm going to
Speaker 1: be in office because I don't know how far off
Speaker 1: the numbers are gonna be. Okay, Tomorrow on the program,
Speaker 1: we're gonna preview all the week's seventeen games. Will take
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