Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're in the holiday spirit
Speaker 1: so much that we're gonna drug our dogs and bring
Speaker 1: them to the mall.
Speaker 2: That's right, Basher, met Santa. What did you do last night?
Speaker 1: I mean the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio with my friends
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf and Jordan Rodrieg I recapped a Monday night
Speaker 1: football doubleheader.
Speaker 3: Good for you, Greg Shook, and you mentioned Drake May
Speaker 3: fourteen times.
Speaker 4: Oh, I knew you would get on me.
Speaker 1: And we only spent we only spent like four minutes
Speaker 1: on the Drake May conversation. I had a whole different
Speaker 1: intro planned. But the you showing me that picture of
Speaker 1: you and your dog but mostly your dog, and oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Santa Claus at the mall is amazing, And it was
Speaker 1: like such a beautiful image. And then you told me, well,
Speaker 1: but I drugged the hell out of him too.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I gave him a tras doone and he
Speaker 5: gets triggered easily by pretty much everything and anything. So
Speaker 5: bringing Dasher to a mall where there's people and then
Speaker 5: other dogs, yeah, you know, there's just things around every corner.
Speaker 2: You don't know what's gonna.
Speaker 3: Happen among us has never popped the gummy and walked
Speaker 3: the mall.
Speaker 1: Sure, it just felt like it was puncturing my idyllic
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: So Dash had a great knife and then he just
Speaker 5: melted into the couch afterwards.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Do you think the Santa was drugged up.
Speaker 5: Or I cannot confirm friendly? Because very friendly, because poor Eric.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you got a mic on you
Speaker 5: right now. Eric goes to the mall earlier this week,
Speaker 5: brings his you know, lovely baby for the very first
Speaker 5: time their panic and he doesn't have a MIC on
Speaker 5: him right now, and.
Speaker 1: The Santa wasn't friendly to them at all because his baby,
Speaker 1: you explained.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he me and my wife walked up to
Speaker 6: the Santa Claus and I think he kind of connected
Speaker 6: the dots that hey, this baby's a baby six months old.
Speaker 6: He didn't play the role at all connected. He's kind
Speaker 6: of just talked to me my wife like it was
Speaker 6: some regular dude. And he's talking as if my baby
Speaker 6: saw him. He's like, who the hell's that guy? No,
Speaker 6: it's like, yeah, he did give you a ho ho
Speaker 6: ho a jolly laugh.
Speaker 3: Right, you should the illusion immediately. Yeah, an impressionable young child.
Speaker 3: Sanda never broke character with Dasher.
Speaker 4: That's your dog got a better experience than my baby.
Speaker 1: That's a professional Santa there. Now I do get it
Speaker 1: on some level as a parent. There is that year
Speaker 1: where you'll say whatever the hell you want in front
Speaker 1: of your baby because it's a baby. It doesn't really
Speaker 1: understand anything. And then he realized after a certain way,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't say anything.
Speaker 3: The problem is, though, Eric, You're gonna have to be
Speaker 3: careful about how you tell that story, because that's gonna
Speaker 3: be a great story eventually that you and your wife
Speaker 3: tell over the holidays. But now you're gonna have to
Speaker 3: be careful about how you tell it and who it's
Speaker 3: in front of, because imagine saying, Santa broke the illusion.
Speaker 4: Yeah you can. You can't tell that story.
Speaker 6: You'll tell that a like, oh, you know, he puts you,
Speaker 6: you gave him me, you google got God, you wanted
Speaker 6: a rattle or whatever, and he laughed the day away
Speaker 6: or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm getting at a lot of hard questions from my son.
Speaker 1: Oh this year nine years old, that's about the time
Speaker 1: we got a big show today.
Speaker 4: I'm excited for this.
Speaker 2: It just keeps getting bigger and bigger too. It's beef
Speaker 2: a show.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're giving Christmas gifts. We're giving Christmas gifts to
Speaker 1: teams that that need it. It's a little bit of
Speaker 1: like a secret Sanda. Yeah, and that's going to be
Speaker 1: really exciting. We're going to preview Broncos and Chargers, but
Speaker 1: we're going to start with a very short segment that
Speaker 1: I added to the mix.
Speaker 4: And everyone with huh.
Speaker 1: Anxiety is and thrilled that we added a segment at
Speaker 1: the last second about the coaching carousel.
Speaker 4: I just feel like we haven't to.
Speaker 2: Bring something to the show like information.
Speaker 1: You do, you know a lot, You've been around the league,
Speaker 1: you have takes, and the thing is, this is going
Speaker 1: to be really quick. We talked about maybe this could
Speaker 1: be its own show, but I just feel like now
Speaker 1: is the time the coaching moves are going to happen.
Speaker 4: So what we're going to do.
Speaker 1: We're going to put a minute on the clock, Max,
Speaker 1: But I don't even think we need a minute. I
Speaker 1: just want to go through all the potential situations of
Speaker 1: what's out there for the coaches and who could and
Speaker 1: could not be losing their jobs over the next couple
Speaker 1: of weeks.
Speaker 7: Lovely to discuss right around the holidays.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so let's go, let's put let's put a
Speaker 1: clock on. So three teams, by the way, have already
Speaker 1: fire their coaches. We don't need to talk about them.
Speaker 1: That's the Jets, the Saints, and the Bears. I only
Speaker 1: I have four categories. One categories he gone, which Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson and the Jaguars.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's much to say here.
Speaker 1: I appreciate actually that they just decided we're just gonna
Speaker 1: keeping the rest of the year. He's the best coach
Speaker 1: in the building, and we'll handle everything. It is interesting.
Speaker 1: Our friend Oli Connelly reported that Bill Belichick had a
Speaker 1: conversation with the Jaguars. He said that on his podcast.
Speaker 1: So I feel like that's the public now, and it
Speaker 1: did not go well. So there we were already talking
Speaker 1: to people Peterson's well.
Speaker 3: Like I mentioned that early in September, the time of year,
Speaker 3: I kept bringing this up about the Jaguars, in particular,
Speaker 3: that the vultures were starting to circle around a couple
Speaker 3: of jobs, specifically that would undoubtedly be losing their head
Speaker 3: coaches either in season or at the end of the season.
Speaker 3: The Jaguars were one of those teams that kept coming
Speaker 3: up in those conversations as coaches who are currently free
Speaker 3: agents were identifying and putting together staffs.
Speaker 7: Bill Belichick included.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he obviously didn't get that job. They'll probably
Speaker 1: replace their I wonder.
Speaker 2: If will end up there, just back in the division.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't seem like the Browns are gonna hire him.
Speaker 1: He's in the building there. So the next category's three teams.
Speaker 1: I just solid chance, like there's a decent chance. So
Speaker 1: Doug would take it to four changes. There's usually about
Speaker 1: six to seven. We could have more this year. Start
Speaker 1: with a Giants. They've been publicly out there John Mara,
Speaker 1: their owner, that they're committed to Brian Dable.
Speaker 4: It was like a room, Yeah, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 4: worry kids. Uh, we're waving at them.
Speaker 7: We're recording right now.
Speaker 2: Hello, will the Giants be waving by?
Speaker 1: There you go, Brian Able, I think he's probably gone
Speaker 1: the way this is going. I don't believe John Mara
Speaker 1: in this case, like I believe he meant it when
Speaker 1: he said it.
Speaker 4: But you got the you got the airplane going overhead.
Speaker 3: But the only thing that trips me up on this
Speaker 3: is he so publicly said he was going to give
Speaker 3: them another year, both of them. I get that, but
Speaker 3: he also like, why not do it already then?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 7: That's that's the only thing. It keeps tripping me up.
Speaker 3: Like we kind of already have known that Doug Peterson
Speaker 3: is a foregone conclusion, and by the way, ownership hasn't
Speaker 3: come out and emphatically stated he's going to give him
Speaker 3: more time. That's what's tripping me up about this situation
Speaker 3: with John Mara and you hear kind of you know,
Speaker 3: people go back and forth up in that market, Well,
Speaker 3: could could they really get give them more time or not.
Speaker 3: It's just the fact that it hasn't already happened is
Speaker 3: what's tripping me up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I say solid chance that one
Speaker 1: I'm going to go like sixty forty.
Speaker 4: Okay, Antonio Pearce in Vegas gone.
Speaker 2: I know he just said that he's under contract for
Speaker 2: next year.
Speaker 1: But I think that Tom Brady factor is a real
Speaker 1: factor people around the league, you know, those in the know,
Speaker 1: they think Tom Brady's going to be a pretty active
Speaker 1: owner considering the relatively low percentage state.
Speaker 3: Mark Davis was on the record with my colleague DeShawn
Speaker 3: Reid last week at the league meetings, or at the
Speaker 3: one of the many league meetings that take place, saying
Speaker 3: he was going to be a significant factor in making
Speaker 3: decisions for this franchise. You know, he has Mark Davis'
Speaker 3: zer already and that's a factor here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I have to shine back on the show.
Speaker 1: We were talking about having him back on the show,
Speaker 1: and then the Raiders.
Speaker 7: Just they're just he was about talking to market.
Speaker 1: I was, they're so not relevant. I said, look, if
Speaker 1: they make a coaching change, we got to get I
Speaker 1: hope that's not the only time he can be on,
Speaker 1: but let's get him back on the show.
Speaker 4: Let's go to the.
Speaker 1: Cowboys Mike McCarthy. The longer this goes and they're more
Speaker 1: reporting around the Cowboys, is actually that Mike McCarthy has
Speaker 1: a decent chance to stay is Yeah? Do you think
Speaker 1: like Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones and their sources are
Speaker 1: just like gas lading us, Because it's a pretty surprising
Speaker 1: development that the season went as poorly as humanly possible
Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy would be back.
Speaker 4: That doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 5: Uh No, Well, especially with what Dak said when he
Speaker 5: was like, you know, if mcarthy, he comes back and
Speaker 5: is allowed or sort of like, you know, give it
Speaker 5: a little bit more. I don't know, responsibility to tax
Speaker 5: on the offense, yeah.
Speaker 2: To do his thing.
Speaker 4: I don't buy it.
Speaker 1: I actually still think McCarthy is more than likely gone.
Speaker 1: I just think they're like raising the intrigue.
Speaker 3: I think this is another way of planting the seeds
Speaker 3: to get us to talk about the Cowboys for a
Speaker 3: lot longer into the off season. But the fact that
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott was lobbying for McCarthy, that is someone that
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones is going to listen to. And he won't
Speaker 3: necessarily listen to a lot of people, but Dak Prescott,
Speaker 3: who he just paid the most money to any player
Speaker 3: he's ever paid, Like he's going to listen to Dak.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is getting up there in life too, and
Speaker 1: it's like, do I really want to find another coach
Speaker 1: that might I might not work with. Well, Mike McCarthy's
Speaker 1: very comfortable. He knows his place in the Cowboys' ecosystem,
Speaker 1: or the reverse of that, he'd like each other personally,
Speaker 1: clearly having.
Speaker 2: Time is ticking and do you want to just like keep.
Speaker 4: Shooting your shot?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, if McCarthy can get another contract out of them, like,
Speaker 1: go get it. He is didn't any reasonable expectation for
Speaker 1: how much money he has made, and good on him.
Speaker 7: Ever since that PFF subscription.
Speaker 1: Let's know, let's go to the let's go to the
Speaker 1: less than likely. This is under fifty percent chance, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it in. Maybe I have two teams here.
Speaker 1: It's drowed Mayo and it's Todd Bowles in Tampa, which
Speaker 1: would sound crazy because the Bucks are playing well, We'll
Speaker 1: start with Mayo. He's part of my next segment. So
Speaker 1: I won't even go on here. Okay, I'm going to
Speaker 1: give him just a short gift, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Every week there's something here, but this is.
Speaker 5: Like the beginning of the beginning. So I feel like
Speaker 5: you need to give him at least another year.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you know, you know though, and it would
Speaker 1: be admitting defeat if you're Robert Kraft.
Speaker 4: But I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I feel like he should get a longer runway.
Speaker 3: I think some of the external there there have been
Speaker 3: some big snaffoos like I don't get me wrong, I'm
Speaker 3: not excusing those, but we've seen young head coaches who
Speaker 3: have gone on to be very successful have some of those,
Speaker 3: like public verbal f ups Dan Campbell. I wouldn't call
Speaker 3: that an f up, but everyone was making fun of
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell. Everyone was making fun of Nick Sirianni. Now
Speaker 3: I'm not saying Drodmeo is necessarily going to evolve into
Speaker 3: that caliber of a coach.
Speaker 7: I mean Nick Sirianni is still having.
Speaker 3: Verbal snaffoos left and right, even when nobody else What
Speaker 3: about the.
Speaker 4: Footballing is the look lost?
Speaker 3: Yeah? But I think if you are a young head
Speaker 3: coach and you are being given the reins by ownership
Speaker 3: like this, with the understanding that you're going to adapt
Speaker 3: and evolve in the job. Like there's ownership and timeline
Speaker 3: patients and ecosystemic patients, and then there is impatience from
Speaker 3: the outside in. And I think those two are not congrassed.
Speaker 1: I just think they're one of the most poorly coached
Speaker 1: teams in the league. And you have you have a gift, and.
Speaker 3: That can be true. That can be true. It doesn't
Speaker 3: mean that it has to stay that way. That's my
Speaker 3: that's my only point. Like people who are football, people
Speaker 3: who are committed to that type of leveluce.
Speaker 4: Okay, we're way over. Let's go to Todd Balls.
Speaker 7: You wanted to talk about the Patriots a lot.
Speaker 1: No, we were going on the actually good go into
Speaker 1: the minute every time Todd Bowles stays. The only reason
Speaker 1: I brought this out why, First of all, they would
Speaker 1: have to lose down the stretch and probably not win
Speaker 1: the division. But in that scenario, I just think they
Speaker 1: can't let Liam Cohen out of the building. And they
Speaker 1: have promoted from within a couple times before, for what
Speaker 1: it's worth, so there is some history with this ownership.
Speaker 1: I just think if it's gonna cost you Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: and Olli Connelly, who was on the show, he's made
Speaker 1: this point too, like, then you need to just find
Speaker 1: a way to keep Liam Cohen.
Speaker 4: It's just too important that pr hit.
Speaker 5: I mean, like, I just don't see the who I
Speaker 5: mean getting rid of Todd Bowles.
Speaker 7: He's had the success.
Speaker 5: If they end up winning the division and they're in
Speaker 5: the playoffs, like, how can you get rid of Todd
Speaker 5: Bowles and promote Liam Cohen?
Speaker 2: That would be such a slap in the face.
Speaker 1: If they win the division, You're right, and people make
Speaker 1: the this is why it's in a way less than likely.
Speaker 1: But if they lost one of these games and the
Speaker 1: Falcons somehow get it, it's unlikely. I just I just
Speaker 1: think it's so important to have that offensive clips letting
Speaker 1: Cohen leap.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll give him a lot of money.
Speaker 1: And then the final section, it's five guys in the AH,
Speaker 1: and these can be quick. I think most of them
Speaker 1: would would be quick. Zach Taylor, I don't believe that
Speaker 1: this would happen. But this league, this has been a
Speaker 1: fiasco this year kind.
Speaker 3: Of depends on what Burrow wants. Really it's going to
Speaker 3: we don't know what he wants or doesn't want.
Speaker 5: In this case, and so much has just been bad
Speaker 5: luck and bad timing.
Speaker 4: Why why is that?
Speaker 5: I just think like the way that Joe Burrow and
Speaker 5: Jamar Chase are playing, like the defense is bad. I
Speaker 5: feel like lou Anarumo potentially he's probably gone. But I
Speaker 5: don't think this is on Zach Taylor, Like he still
Speaker 5: has the players with it. They still want to play
Speaker 5: for him, they want to be involved. Like it's like
Speaker 5: you're not losing the locker room at this point.
Speaker 3: This would be probably more nuanced on like a longer segment,
Speaker 3: but a lot of what owners ask themselves this time
Speaker 3: of year is how many other teams would immediately go
Speaker 3: hire that guy if I were to fire him, yeah,
Speaker 3: or if I were to let him go? And then also,
Speaker 3: do I already have someone in mind who I can
Speaker 3: guarantee will be better than that guy?
Speaker 5: And then the Jags hire Zach Taylor after getting rid
Speaker 5: of Press Taylor.
Speaker 1: Right, I think the answer for Zach Taylor would be
Speaker 1: he wouldn't get hired.
Speaker 4: He's got great things.
Speaker 1: Jamar Chas and Joe Burrow examples to me is the
Speaker 1: proving the point against Stefanski, by all accounts, is going
Speaker 1: to be safe. So despite that record, it really does
Speaker 1: sound like they're they're going to go back for the
Speaker 1: two time coach of the Year and that he would
Speaker 1: be safe Stich and I just wanted to mention he's
Speaker 1: going to be on the hot seat most likely going
Speaker 1: into next year when you're going into year three, But
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be committed to him. Dave
Speaker 1: Canalis has helped to improve everything in Carolina. I will
Speaker 1: say I've seen it so many times that all the
Speaker 1: surprising moves happen when surprising things happen.
Speaker 4: The last couple of weeks, like if the floor.
Speaker 1: Just fell out and they lost three straight games like
Speaker 1: they lost to the Cowboys, than any who knows anything
Speaker 1: out table.
Speaker 3: I actually I politely disagree. I think that Canalis and
Speaker 3: his offensive staff will be safe. I think that they're
Speaker 3: going He's going to want to bring in his own
Speaker 3: choice for defensive coordinator and a Giro ever was going
Speaker 3: to go get a job somewhere else. But we have
Speaker 3: to remember what some of the reporting was before entering
Speaker 3: the year, where other teams thought that they could get
Speaker 3: a Giro out of the last year of his contract
Speaker 3: and recording that possibility, and Dave Tepper did not let
Speaker 3: him go. That's not Dave Canalis is higher, and now
Speaker 3: after this year, I think that that's what he might
Speaker 3: do is go and look for his own guy to
Speaker 3: bring in and do make that higher versus being paired
Speaker 3: with somebody and somebody a team is going to get
Speaker 3: a great DC in Ajiro.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, Yeah, he would get hired quickly.
Speaker 1: And then finally Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 5: I would say the Falcons too. By the way, if
Speaker 5: he ends up anywhere else, I don't know why. That's
Speaker 5: just like the.
Speaker 7: As a DC.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh hell yeah, yeah, that would make sense.
Speaker 4: He could. I mean, he he'll probably have options.
Speaker 3: Of where he gets hiring committees. Are you listening to Colleen?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: I have no reason to believe that John Lynch and
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are anything but truthful on their
Speaker 1: stance that Kyle Shannan is going to be there forever.
Speaker 1: But when Troy Aikman throws it out there on Monday
Speaker 1: Night Football, like he just starts talking about Caleb Caleb
Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahan and that they should try to trade
Speaker 1: for Kyle Shannan, I was like, Okay, I was like, Troy,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I feel like Troy wouldn't
Speaker 1: just throw that out there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like when you have reporters just say things like
Speaker 1: they're not just saying it, it's coming from something. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, well, if Troy threw that out there, at.
Speaker 2: Least he doesn't have an original thought like.
Speaker 4: That he would, But I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think he would throw I think he's careful
Speaker 1: enough he wouldn't throw it out there in that spot unless.
Speaker 3: Millions of people watching something my crazy crazy, my craziest
Speaker 3: take if the tiny table was here, I would stand
Speaker 3: on I do think because there's a gap between maybe
Speaker 3: the perception of coaches who are ready, who are offensive
Speaker 3: coaches who are to take the big job, and the
Speaker 3: actual existing hiring pool. It's like Ben Johnson, who may
Speaker 3: or may not even want to go to your franchise
Speaker 3: depending on the situation. And I think the Bears genuinely
Speaker 3: are looking into the possibility of trading for somebody. But
Speaker 3: my my hottest theory take it's not based on any reporting,
Speaker 3: but just based on what this team has to.
Speaker 7: Be and is looking for right now.
Speaker 3: You know, Kevin O'Connell has not gotten his extension yet
Speaker 3: for some God only knows why reason, and he's gotten
Speaker 3: till twenty twenty five. How what if you what if
Speaker 3: you try to what if you're the Bears and you say,
Speaker 3: how much?
Speaker 7: Would I know they would never do it? Greg.
Speaker 3: I know you're giving me Greg face. I know that,
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying the hot like the crazy face.
Speaker 7: The crazy always said.
Speaker 3: Like that's like image. Just imagine you're like the Vikings
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, yeah, you know what, we could
Speaker 3: find another one of these.
Speaker 7: They haven't extended him yet. Extend the man.
Speaker 2: They should extend it.
Speaker 4: He could, he could leverage this maybe.
Speaker 3: Into I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if you
Speaker 3: heard like some weird, crazy like Shenanigan rumors about this
Speaker 3: based on trying to get that extension done.
Speaker 4: He is the new favorite for Coach of the Year.
Speaker 4: We did it, we did it quickly.
Speaker 1: I think it was good, just just a little like
Speaker 1: where we're at, temperature check, temperature check.
Speaker 4: We're at four head coaching openings.
Speaker 1: If Doug is gone as we expect, I'm putting the
Speaker 1: over under at seven this year. I feel like there's
Speaker 1: going to be a handful more would be interesting watch
Speaker 1: this space, all right, let's get to I mean that
Speaker 1: is kind of like Grinch stuff. That's why it's even
Speaker 1: better not to do it on our next show, which
Speaker 1: we're taping on Christmas Eve, Mourning, so that would be
Speaker 1: rude for that. Colleen, We're going to try to check
Speaker 1: in with your family. Maybe I'll see how you're doing
Speaker 1: back in Philadelphia. The holiday. We're keeping it warm here.
Speaker 1: Let's do something nicer. Let's give out gifts to teams.
Speaker 1: Let's let's be the secret Santa that these teams need,
Speaker 1: I think, and you're all read get up today?
Speaker 4: You should go whattshirt and a hat?
Speaker 2: But yes, okay, yeah, go for it?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 7: So here we go.
Speaker 4: Oh wow.
Speaker 5: I was thinking about giving Jerry Jones window treatments like
Speaker 5: some curtains, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's such a tough person to shop for it. I
Speaker 2: like this one better.
Speaker 3: What do you get for the man who has has
Speaker 3: everything except for playoff wins?
Speaker 5: Okay, watches are a really popular gift this time of year.
Speaker 5: I prefer a men's wear watch that looks expensive but
Speaker 5: isn't if anybody wants to be my secret Santa. But specifically,
Speaker 5: I would like to give a pocket watch to Caleb Williams.
Speaker 5: And to be honest, I feel like I'm doing.
Speaker 2: More of a service than giving a gift with this.
Speaker 5: We need him to learn when to get rid of
Speaker 5: the ball, and like, I'm here to wish him a
Speaker 5: happy and healthy New Year, but considering he's been sacked
Speaker 5: a league leading fifty eight times, he needs a lot
Speaker 5: more than my well wishes at this point. Fifty eight sacks,
Speaker 5: it's the third most bio rookie quarterback since nineteen seventy
Speaker 5: and thirteen more than any other NFL quarterback this season.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 7: It's not all on Kleb.
Speaker 5: The offensive line has allowed a ton of unblocked pressures.
Speaker 5: So I'll throw in some of Phil Swift's flex seal
Speaker 5: just as like, oh.
Speaker 7: Wow, gives here nice.
Speaker 5: But Caleb is top ten in longest average time to
Speaker 5: sack this season. So a pocket watch or a stopwatch,
Speaker 5: you know, whichever has faster shipping on my Amazon account
Speaker 5: is what I will be doing.
Speaker 7: Nice. I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that offensive line every time I watch them, I'm
Speaker 3: just dumbfounded by that group when I'm like I So
Speaker 3: let me also be clear, Like I appreciated the aggressive
Speaker 3: calls in the first half on fourth and short, fourth
Speaker 3: and one, there are some of the side angles of
Speaker 3: the lack of push and effect, the inversion and implosion
Speaker 3: of that that offensive line was just getting moved backward
Speaker 3: off the spot. If you can't gain a yard on
Speaker 3: a must have it season already lost, but reputation on
Speaker 3: the line kind of situation when it has been stated
Speaker 3: and mandated that you're going to be aggressive, trying to
Speaker 3: do anything you can to actually just win one or
Speaker 3: get points on the board, and you're getting pushed backward
Speaker 3: like that. I mean, that's embarrassing.
Speaker 1: But to your point, I agree that the offensive line
Speaker 1: has been an embarrassment. But I think Troy Aikman again,
Speaker 1: he was pretty poignant, not hold back at all, and
Speaker 1: he's just like, yeah, there's a million wide open guys
Speaker 1: that Caleb's staring at and he's not throwing it and
Speaker 1: missing it. It's okay to points like multiple things can
Speaker 1: be true, that he's maybe got coached too hard to
Speaker 1: not make a mistake and he's just a little frozen there.
Speaker 1: And then he said Troy is Troy. That is said
Speaker 1: Caleb is his harshest critic, Like he was saying, there's
Speaker 1: all these throws that I just keep missing that I
Speaker 1: wouldn't miss in college, and you saw it like he
Speaker 1: just missed open receivers on throws that were there.
Speaker 4: It's just a little bears.
Speaker 7: So I do love this gift, Colleen, because you're also
Speaker 7: it's a symbol in a way.
Speaker 2: Pocket it's also a play on words, just exactly. I
Speaker 2: love a play on word.
Speaker 3: I love it the concept of time being so crucial
Speaker 3: for Caleb.
Speaker 4: Love that.
Speaker 3: Just give it a couple more cycles around this here.
Speaker 3: Pocket Watch and things will get better, buddy.
Speaker 4: Very important for the entire end. I'm going to say
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 2: I overthink everything and sometimes it works out.
Speaker 4: That was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yes, Bears please, we know you're going to be in
Speaker 1: primetime five to six times every year, especially with Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1: So this is important for this show. It's important for
Speaker 1: the entire NFL. Get this higher, right, I mean the
Speaker 1: Bears most important. They could show. Yeah, they could miss it.
Speaker 1: They could miss it. I'm going to give a present.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud. I don't know if we can do that all times.
Speaker 1: I like, I like the I like the sounds, but
Speaker 1: the Santa he almost sounds like the A Christmas Story.
Speaker 4: Guy like ho ho.
Speaker 1: You got a real problem with.
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're with the guy who I was messing with.
Speaker 4: Eric's lovely boy.
Speaker 2: This is where it all started.
Speaker 4: I'm giving Strata a weighted blanket. Okay.
Speaker 1: The weighted blankets can help put your nervous system into
Speaker 1: rest mode. Actually, it helps with anxiety, helps reduce some
Speaker 1: symptoms of that and often gives you know, people that
Speaker 1: have the weighted blanket and overall sense of calm. And
Speaker 1: I just think CJ. Is gonna need it. It's also
Speaker 1: good practice for how it feels to have a defensive
Speaker 1: lineman on top of you during a game. So just
Speaker 1: like you'll get you'll get used to that.
Speaker 4: He during the game, he's.
Speaker 7: Being important clarification, Thank you, Greg.
Speaker 1: He's being asked a lot, like he just looks stressed.
Speaker 1: They come out of their bye week and you think, Okay,
Speaker 1: our coaches are going to come up with a plan
Speaker 1: for it. You know, we're gonna call plays, maybe a
Speaker 1: little more under center, stuff that helped me out last year.
Speaker 1: The protection is gonna be better. And for one drive
Speaker 1: they looked like the twenty twenty three Texans and then
Speaker 1: the rest of the game happened and it was a
Speaker 1: total disaster up front and all these unblocked pressures. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: he's kicking back watching my guy Troy and Joe Buck
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football, and he's hearing them talk about
Speaker 1: He's hearing them talk about potential head coaching candidates for
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, and he mentions Bobby Slowick, the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: It's like, well, he will be available.
Speaker 1: Because like, this guy is putting so much stress on CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud's life because they are not helping this kid out.
Speaker 1: And this is sort of what it looks like when
Speaker 1: what's happening to Caleb Williams is happening, but the players
Speaker 1: just more ready for the moment and is better and
Speaker 1: is making everyone else around him look better because he's
Speaker 1: holding it up to at least a good enough level.
Speaker 1: But man, he's gonna need this weighted blanket. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna soothe him and realize, like I'm in a
Speaker 1: good place in my career and like we're gonna make
Speaker 1: the playoffs and it's probably not gonna go that well,
Speaker 1: but overall, like I'm doing well, They'll they'll help me out.
Speaker 2: He's taken so many sacks this year, he must feel
Speaker 2: like he's already under.
Speaker 4: A there you go, there you go, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, like just watching the difference from last year
Speaker 5: to this year. He was able to extend so many
Speaker 5: more plays last year and just make these throws on
Speaker 5: the run, and he it just isn't on the same
Speaker 5: page with his receivers.
Speaker 4: You know what.
Speaker 1: He did it pretty well Sunday again the Dolphins. It
Speaker 1: was kind of it was kind of back to okay,
Speaker 1: let's just have CJ fix everything, and he did for
Speaker 1: a game, but they had under two hundred yards and
Speaker 1: they had dominant defensive effort.
Speaker 3: Certainly not sustainable for a seventeen plus game season. To that,
Speaker 3: like as if you're trapped in a chimney.
Speaker 4: Right, Also, I'd like a weighted blanket. Doesn't that sound nice?
Speaker 3: You did when you were opining about it and you
Speaker 3: kind of had your hands clasped in front of your heart.
Speaker 7: That sounds Is this what Greg wants for Christmas?
Speaker 4: It does sound great? I mean I'm not.
Speaker 1: My wife has a heated you know pad that she
Speaker 1: always lies on on the cut you know those?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 1: You know those are nice. You're just all waited too,
Speaker 1: those aren't Wait, that's not way. They're separate. So that's nice.
Speaker 1: And sometimes I'll go over to her little couch area
Speaker 1: and steal that little warmth in the morning. When weighted
Speaker 1: that around, right, But then the next level would be
Speaker 1: the weighted blanks Wait, oh you do have?
Speaker 4: It's great?
Speaker 5: Well, it's only like a it's like a neck one,
Speaker 5: so it's not that big. But sometimes I'll just like
Speaker 5: like put it like a blanket instead of wearing it
Speaker 5: around my neck, and it's awesome.
Speaker 1: Highly recommend sneaky cold, you know, in the mornings and
Speaker 1: at night, and those beach towns.
Speaker 4: I mean, everyone feel bad for us.
Speaker 3: I'll always lose the heat from my space heater right
Speaker 3: in the morning. And I couldn't figure out for the
Speaker 3: longest time. I'm like where it was going? And then
Speaker 3: I realized, my dog Tucker is getting up from his
Speaker 3: bed and standing with his butt to it and facing
Speaker 3: into the room. And so he stands there so he
Speaker 3: has his he can feel the space heater on his
Speaker 3: butt floofs like he's got really fluffy hind quarters legs, so.
Speaker 7: He likes to the heat. And I'm like, where was
Speaker 7: my heat going? And then I realized, very good.
Speaker 1: Surprise, Eric Roberts, that was your Christmas present to me.
Speaker 1: I don't expect anything else.
Speaker 4: That was it. Thank you very much. All right, Jordan,
Speaker 4: you're up.
Speaker 3: Uh well, my gift is not going to someone in need. Okay,
Speaker 3: to the Green Bay Packers. My gift to you is
Speaker 3: a command C command V button to copy and paste
Speaker 3: what worked for you in the first half on Sunday
Speaker 3: night for usage into the postseason sustainable way if you
Speaker 3: can do it. They got Josh Jacobs going early got
Speaker 3: moved and immediately on the line of scrimmage against that
Speaker 3: ascending young front Seattle that's been playing very well lately.
Speaker 3: This Packers offensive line all drafted and developed, most of
Speaker 3: them middle round players. They've all played the majority of
Speaker 3: snaps together this season and at their own position, which
Speaker 3: any coach will tell you it's not just continuity of health,
Speaker 3: but continuity of staying in one spot for most of
Speaker 3: the season that really makes a difference this time of year.
Speaker 3: These are a group of big, badass dudes moving in
Speaker 3: gorgeous synchronicity and moving the ball like that on the
Speaker 3: ground the way that they did. Josh Jacobs touched the ball,
Speaker 3: had nine touches out of first ten. It really settled
Speaker 3: Jordan love In. I've been trying to figure out, trying
Speaker 3: to like get a read on, like how what makes
Speaker 3: him most comfortable entering a game and gets him to,
Speaker 3: you know, really settle in quickly, and it's that it's
Speaker 3: physically running the ball and that they that they they
Speaker 3: have been doing and he may blanket that's maybe maybe
Speaker 3: this offensive line is his weighted blanket that I love
Speaker 3: that for him, but it's clear that when he is
Speaker 3: settled as early as possible with what which is what
Speaker 3: they did, which is what their script was essentially, and
Speaker 3: the openers like he is absolutely an astonishingly efficient thrower,
Speaker 3: but also making like some really gorgeous throws down the
Speaker 3: field that are just electric. And I think like like
Speaker 3: a way to blanket would be, or like a heated
Speaker 3: way to blink it would be.
Speaker 7: This is I'm going off the rails.
Speaker 3: I just think so that they were also getting pushed
Speaker 3: on the other side of the ball early in the half.
Speaker 3: You know, the Packers defensive line was brought to life
Speaker 3: in this way. That was Yes, the Seattle offensive line
Speaker 3: is a complete Nutter disaster, has been all year. But
Speaker 3: just asserting themselves and dominating up front the way that
Speaker 3: they did so early. That is December football. That is
Speaker 3: January football. If they can command see command V copy
Speaker 3: paste via this gift that totally exists that I'm getting right.
Speaker 1: It's going to be difficult. I guess if you open
Speaker 1: it up, it's just last week's game plan. It's like
Speaker 1: copied and paste.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess if I was going to follow the
Speaker 3: game correctly, that's what I should have said.
Speaker 7: Okay, you know, I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: More just making this up as we go a paking.
Speaker 2: I love a copy and paste. I yeah all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just think that that particular, if I
Speaker 3: were going to create a gift, create a gift in
Speaker 3: this very real game that we're playing, I'm going to
Speaker 3: create a gift for the Green Bay Packers. I think, no,
Speaker 3: no team is going to hang with them easily. No
Speaker 3: team is going to hang with them easily, especially into
Speaker 3: the postseason, if they are able to come out of
Speaker 3: the gate in that particular style and with that ethos.
Speaker 5: They came out so fast, and that was the emphasis
Speaker 5: because Jordan Love talked about it afterwards, saying, hell, they
Speaker 5: didn't do it before and that's been sort of an
Speaker 5: issue for them, so coming out strong and then having
Speaker 5: Josh Jacob so being they've ran on those two touchdown drives.
Speaker 5: They ran eighteen plays and Jacob's had the ball on
Speaker 5: eleven of them.
Speaker 7: Love love that balance.
Speaker 3: One thing that I'll think to put on my list
Speaker 3: next year is a better understanding of the game from.
Speaker 4: Me too much.
Speaker 1: It works a game we're just given, we're just given gifts.
Speaker 3: Some colleen, to your point, sometimes overthink things and it
Speaker 3: doesn't work.
Speaker 1: I love it and Look, this Packers team is on
Speaker 1: the list of teams that if they won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl this year, I wouldn't be that surprised.
Speaker 7: I agree.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a maybe that's our segment next week, Like
Speaker 1: what is that list? It's probably about six or seven
Speaker 1: teams for me, five six seven teams, and the Packers
Speaker 1: are one of those teams. It's gonna be tough for them.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to win three road games.
Speaker 2: Well, I think about last year playing but again it
Speaker 2: was possible.
Speaker 3: That's what I factored in when you know, inventing this
Speaker 3: gift for them out of technology that we definitely definitely
Speaker 3: have at this point in our lives. This if you
Speaker 3: are gonna be on the road, if their playoff seating
Speaker 3: is such to where they are gonna be on the
Speaker 3: road to start out, this is exactly the style of
Speaker 3: football that gets you wins on the road in this
Speaker 3: type of environment, like with the stakes so high, and
Speaker 3: again like I've I've sort of been suspicious of this
Speaker 3: in a positive way with Jordan Love for a while.
Speaker 3: Now that he is he is absolutely like there is
Speaker 3: no ceiling for him at a certain point as long
Speaker 3: as he gets settled and really gets is comfortable early on,
Speaker 3: gets settled, feels the rhythm of the game, importantly, feels
Speaker 3: that space that his line is creating for him. He
Speaker 3: can really understand very very quickly, and among the best
Speaker 3: in the league right now at understanding how to manipulate
Speaker 3: that to his advantage once he does get settled. If
Speaker 3: he's not settled early, he can be a bit erratic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the gift of like space and time too.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I know.
Speaker 1: Thank you for saving me over nine yards adjusted yards
Speaker 1: per attempt over the last month in aggregate, and like
Speaker 1: that is MVP level numbers, at least from Jordan lef.
Speaker 4: All right, let's take a quick break. We've got a
Speaker 4: lot of gifts to hand out, some real, some not real.
Speaker 1: Jordan's gonna try to refigure out what the segment is
Speaker 1: all about after this, it's like the magic of Christmas,
Speaker 1: all right. Outside of our weighted blankets that we all
Speaker 1: were under during the break, we've all taken some muscle relaxers,
Speaker 1: get loose for this next round of secret sandas. If
Speaker 1: we go fast enough, they we'll do a couple of
Speaker 1: rounds here and then we'll talk some t NF.
Speaker 4: Colleen, Okay, I bet you're a great gift gift.
Speaker 5: Well, it's always last minute, so that's kind of an issue.
Speaker 5: I'm someone who says, you know what I was going
Speaker 5: to get you, and it's something really really thoughtful, but
Speaker 5: I never executed on time.
Speaker 1: So you know the thought I was just thinking about
Speaker 1: that yesterday that it's not the thought that counts.
Speaker 4: If the thought counted, i'd be awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I never you know, I rarely am going
Speaker 1: through with the nice things that you think about. So
Speaker 1: it's not the thought that counts. They're lying to you kids, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's the action, like it, that's it.
Speaker 4: The action that.
Speaker 5: Counts, follow through, Yes, that's I saw Steve Weitsch in
Speaker 5: the newsroom last night and I was like, I.
Speaker 2: Haven't bought one gift yet for anyone, and.
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, Wolfy, I got my Christmas shopping done.
Speaker 2: Yeah before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7: Oh Thanksgiving. That does not surprise me one bit.
Speaker 5: Give a gift out then, okay, fine, this is my
Speaker 5: second gift I guess that I got and I'm giving okay.
Speaker 5: You know, it kind of feels like you need twenty
Speaker 5: seven different streaming services to watch the shows this year,
Speaker 5: so I would like to give Giants fans the gift
Speaker 5: of access to joy once again. Now this is actually
Speaker 5: quite personal for me because I just recently signed up
Speaker 5: for another streaming service to watch a show that debuted
Speaker 5: twenty two years ago. That show is The Wire and
Speaker 5: that service is HBO Max, And you know, I thought.
Speaker 2: Of Giants fans, right, Okay, Max?
Speaker 5: So whatever, Max and I thought of Giants fans because
Speaker 5: we're both watching a lot of the Homicide Unit at
Speaker 5: this point, mine of fictional drama.
Speaker 2: There's a terrible reality show.
Speaker 5: But I want to bring back the good times, the
Speaker 5: smiles for Giants fans with the gift of Max. So
Speaker 5: you can rewatch the off season Hard Knocks since that's
Speaker 5: when their season.
Speaker 2: Oh Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1: This is I want to say beneath you, but you're
Speaker 1: so small as it is, it's hard to get there.
Speaker 4: I love it. I love it, and.
Speaker 7: Catch us on Fast Channel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, please do.
Speaker 1: Joe Shane, I didn't mention him in the whole coaching thing,
Speaker 1: but well I was going.
Speaker 2: To bring that up.
Speaker 5: If that's a package deal, or if you could see
Speaker 5: maybe Brian Dabele going and not or Joe Shane going
Speaker 5: and not dable.
Speaker 1: I think that is how they will split the baby,
Speaker 1: which is a weird phrase, but I think Joe Shane
Speaker 1: will stay. There's something about Joe Shane that I just
Speaker 1: think John Mara wants to work and he wants to
Speaker 1: have He desperately wants stability. He wants to be the roonies,
Speaker 1: and that'll be like the closest he can get is
Speaker 1: I think keeping Joe Shane at least. I think more
Speaker 1: teams are doing that in general, like keeping front offices,
Speaker 1: keeping the structures, but changing out the coaches and or
Speaker 1: sometimes the GM's gone, but a lot of the people underneath.
Speaker 4: Them to stay.
Speaker 3: Joe Shane has the caliber. I mean, it's hard to
Speaker 3: argue for any of this, right, but like he has
Speaker 3: the caliber of what this draft class's potential is of
Speaker 3: some of the non Saquon related moves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had a good draft.
Speaker 3: And so I think that's where because you can see
Speaker 3: process product and result looks terrible. But if you can
Speaker 3: see process if you're Mara, and then you can also
Speaker 3: see that on the coaching side and you're maybe not
Speaker 3: thrilled with any of it, that this could be potentially it.
Speaker 3: But again, this trips me up because of what he
Speaker 3: so emphatically said, and I just don't think he likes
Speaker 3: being embarrassed like that, Like there was some interesting stuff
Speaker 3: the market. They were like saying, Okay, well, you know
Speaker 3: it's he doesn't mind booing. He doesn't mind strife in
Speaker 3: a moment with some sort of a fix at the
Speaker 3: end of it. But it's like people not caring or
Speaker 3: people being embarrassed by by his decisions is what he
Speaker 3: can't handle. And I don't know, it's it's like they've
Speaker 3: got at least a young peace.
Speaker 1: He's done it before though I was living in New York.
Speaker 1: That's like he's said, we're not going to fire the coaches,
Speaker 1: and then he fired the coaches.
Speaker 7: So that's that's kind of what his reputation now.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm going off a little.
Speaker 1: I love too that Colleen just loves punching down on
Speaker 1: the Giants as a rival, which I get. There was
Speaker 1: something it brings out the worst in you, because which
Speaker 1: is actually the best, right, because like, no matter how
Speaker 1: good the Patriots were and how bad the Jets were,
Speaker 1: that was the one team you just you just wanted
Speaker 1: to be and it's like a stress bowl and saying
Speaker 1: that that was the peak of their season.
Speaker 4: They weren't happy even then. The expectations were very low
Speaker 4: and they were getting my funt of like even during
Speaker 4: that season with Saquan, but you're right, it really was
Speaker 4: the highlight.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give a book to the entire Ravens team,
Speaker 1: so everyone in the organization, all the players.
Speaker 4: It's going to be a book.
Speaker 1: It is called Never Rest Easy or Never Easy, Never Pretty.
Speaker 1: It's by a man called Dean Bartoli Smith. I'm also
Speaker 1: going to give out from our friends at NFL Films
Speaker 1: a copy of America's Game twenty twelve. This book is
Speaker 1: about the story of the twenty twelve Baltimore Ravens in
Speaker 1: America's Game, of course, our great documented documentary that we
Speaker 1: do after every Super Bowl win, and it's a story
Speaker 1: of a team that John harra coached that was worse
Speaker 1: than literally every other team that John Harbaugh ever coached,
Speaker 1: and it won the Super Bowl. And it's a reminder
Speaker 1: that sometimes it's not the season that was pretty throughout.
Speaker 1: You know what the twenty twelve Ravens were doing around
Speaker 1: this time of the season, losing three straight games. You
Speaker 1: know what their defense was doing all season? They looked
Speaker 1: like trash it was by far the worst defense Ed
Speaker 1: Reed and ray Lewis were ever associated with. They were
Speaker 1: a lot worse than this defense. You know what they
Speaker 1: did at the end, They won the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: that was after three straight years where if you look
Speaker 1: at the point differential and the DVOA and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: those Ravens teams were among the very very best in
Speaker 1: the league, and the numbers would say even this year
Speaker 1: they are. But I know they've lost a lot of games.
Speaker 1: There's a different feeling and it's a reminder to Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: like no one remembers everything Joe Flacco did before or
Speaker 1: really after. You just got to play your best for
Speaker 1: four games in the playoffs and that's all that matters.
Speaker 1: And to me, this is a much better team than
Speaker 1: the twenty twelve Ravens that ended up winning that Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You just got to play your best then, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a reminder for this team like maybe it's
Speaker 1: the year that you don't see coming.
Speaker 3: They sound like they also could use some sort of
Speaker 3: magical button that exists to reapply certain strategies to the
Speaker 3: current model that was used in the past, like a
Speaker 3: command see command, like some sort of some sort of
Speaker 3: metaphysical like butt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 7: I agree, I think that would be awesome.
Speaker 1: Great gift idea, Greg, And what a great book it
Speaker 1: is by Dean Bartoli Smith.
Speaker 4: I gotta admit I have that. I could. There aren't
Speaker 4: many books out there.
Speaker 1: There's no books about the twenty twelve Baltimore Ravens. But
Speaker 1: never rest easy, never pretty, never never easy, never pretty.
Speaker 1: I remember you Ravens, Like that was not a good team.
Speaker 1: Sometimes teams that aren't that good actually win the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: And I actually think this Ravens teemans quite good. What
Speaker 4: like the Giants they just.
Speaker 1: Have Yeah, like they weren't great during during the regular season.
Speaker 1: I just mean during during that regular season. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: Harbaugh had been around at that point, I think for
Speaker 1: four years, and all the other teams if you look
Speaker 1: at like there's a value that Pro Football Reference has,
Speaker 1: like they were all way better teams.
Speaker 4: They were eleven win teams, twelve win teams.
Speaker 1: All this this team had so many problems and like,
Speaker 1: does literally anyone remember that at this point, no one cares.
Speaker 4: All that matters is the playoffs? All right, give me
Speaker 4: a gift? What me.
Speaker 3: Subliminally placed that in my brain. Once again, I will
Speaker 3: show my absolute mastery of the theme here. So we
Speaker 3: don't know if Pat Mahomes is going to be playing
Speaker 3: the next couple of games. He said Tuesday morning that
Speaker 3: he's going to try with dealing with an ankle sprain
Speaker 3: that's not as serious as one that he had before.
Speaker 3: My gift also based it totally in reality. To Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3: If he does play for the next couple of weeks,
Speaker 3: is he is allowed to pick any two NFC tackles.
Speaker 3: They don't have to be on the same team to
Speaker 3: protect him in the game, in the games leading up
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl. The only rule is that he
Speaker 3: cannot use them in the super Bowl itself. Why because
Speaker 3: they could potentially be on a team that he's playing.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what their NFC tackles. I'm I am
Speaker 3: so obviously this little context here. I know people know
Speaker 3: the history of the situation that he's going through. But
Speaker 3: DJ Humphreys was signed to help alleviate as she is
Speaker 3: inclusive to injury and performance. Between the tackles the left
Speaker 3: tackles Wannie Morris and Kingsley Suamataia, d J Humpers was
Speaker 3: not active this week. He's dealing with the hamstring issue.
Speaker 3: They've moved Joe Tooney at times, which means that they're
Speaker 3: sort of destructing deconstructing a really still very solid interior
Speaker 3: offensive line in order to patch different holes, which, if
Speaker 3: what I said at the top, continuity of position is
Speaker 3: also incredibly important this time of year. And hat tip
Speaker 3: to Dan Pezuta for tracking this.
Speaker 7: Seven.
Speaker 3: Patrick mc mahomes has taken seven or more hits in
Speaker 3: a game for the seventh week in a row, which
Speaker 3: ties the record for most such games since two thousand.
Speaker 3: Oh that's not sustainable. So my gift to him. I
Speaker 3: think he is not only wants it, but very much
Speaker 3: in need of it if he does play. And I'm
Speaker 3: going to go in their NFC tackle So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go Penney Seol on the right side, okay, and Andy
Speaker 3: Reid can also use him as a receiving threat.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: And I'm going with Tristan Wurf's at left tackle.
Speaker 7: Okay, who are you guys picking?
Speaker 1: I think those are the two. Those are the two
Speaker 1: all Pro tackles.
Speaker 5: If Lane Johnson didn't get like banged up, maybe I'd
Speaker 5: Ohane in there.
Speaker 3: I would say Lane would be good because he knows
Speaker 3: he knows how to get there in the postseason, and
Speaker 3: he's sort of like that long haul truckers.
Speaker 1: I mean, if Lane Johnson's banged up, I'd hate to
Speaker 1: see what he looks like, you know, healthy, because he
Speaker 1: didn't give up a single pressure last week against j
Speaker 1: freaking Watt, so I don't know he is all right,
Speaker 1: I'll go Lane Johnson just for some just some spice
Speaker 1: and SPI.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tristan Worf's that is a great gift. He would
Speaker 4: love that, and.
Speaker 7: Thanks, guys, I needed that.
Speaker 4: It's okay.
Speaker 1: I think I think sometimes it's Christmas. You want to
Speaker 1: live in a fantasy world.
Speaker 3: It's just like when people, even if.
Speaker 1: I can't make it happen, like just imagine it and
Speaker 1: and suddenly Joe Touney will be Tristan Worf's.
Speaker 3: This is the gift equivalent of when your significant other
Speaker 3: buys you a star. You know, like you don't actually
Speaker 3: own that star. Oh yeah, you have a piece of
Speaker 3: paper that says this is your star, and some like
Speaker 3: you know both romance trope. But it's not really your star.
Speaker 3: It is that you versus star, and it has died
Speaker 3: long before you can even see the light from it.
Speaker 4: It's kind of or when they do there's a dead star.
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1: They sell these, you know, they sell these trinkets, so
Speaker 1: it'll be like you can like adopt this dolphin for
Speaker 1: fifty bucks and you get a little certificate and they're
Speaker 1: probably like stealing out that much.
Speaker 7: So this is my gift, my not that we're the
Speaker 7: gift equivalent of that to Patrick.
Speaker 5: By the way, Lane Johnson only missed one play, but
Speaker 5: it was so scary that it just worried me that
Speaker 5: maybe there would be some type of lasting.
Speaker 1: Oh he was playing like hurt the rest of the
Speaker 1: game and he was still awesome. It's crazy, It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I did get my son a certificate of adoption of
Speaker 1: a Koala. I remember, you know, like five years ago
Speaker 1: or something, and it.
Speaker 4: Was where we're like a donation.
Speaker 1: It's like a donation to the Koala Society and Australia
Speaker 1: or whatever something like that, and.
Speaker 4: They give you a little certificate and you get a newsletter.
Speaker 7: All right, have you checked in with it recently?
Speaker 1: I really want to go to Australia to go to
Speaker 1: their little they have a little you know, koala party
Speaker 1: going on there?
Speaker 4: Whoa yeah, okay, preservation society.
Speaker 2: Now you have my attention.
Speaker 4: Let's go all right.
Speaker 1: Last gift for okay, this is like a quick or
Speaker 1: it could be very speed. You got any speedy ones.
Speaker 5: This is for Bills fans and it's a collection of
Speaker 5: Hailey Steinfeld's music and movies to thank her for unlocking
Speaker 5: Josh Allen's full potential because since they got engaged during
Speaker 5: the Bills bye week, oh my god, Josh Allen has
Speaker 5: fourteen total touchdowns, zero turnovers, zero sacks taken, and the
Speaker 5: Bills are averaging forty two points per game in those
Speaker 5: three weeks. So Haley on behalf of Bill's mafia, and
Speaker 5: my friend Buffalo Terry who lives in Buffalo obviously if
Speaker 5: that's her name, gave me permission to say this, so
Speaker 5: I can thank you from the bottom of our hearts.
Speaker 4: That is amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that as good as he has ever been,
Speaker 1: Like this is even better and he is on a
Speaker 1: heater it is. I mean, it kind of makes sense
Speaker 1: when you know a man that is that happy, happy
Speaker 1: in his life.
Speaker 3: Love.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you have the you know, the the
Speaker 1: room here Bill's face to do any blaming if it
Speaker 1: turns south at some point, there's I've seen too much outside.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the other the other side of it has not
Speaker 4: been great over the years.
Speaker 1: Sometimes in these situations, I am gonna give a gift
Speaker 1: to NFL Daily.
Speaker 4: Actually, so everyone behind.
Speaker 7: Just so to yourself, Okay, Well, the real gift is
Speaker 7: a stock.
Speaker 4: It's more front for the NFL.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and buy some ads on Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons podcast in the off season because this is gonna
Speaker 1: be the podcast of the off season. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw the Cowboys soft launching their new off
Speaker 1: season story over the weekend, Michael Parson's trade candidate. Uh,
Speaker 1: that is gonna make the Michael Parsons Podcast like one
Speaker 1: of the fastest growing podcasts in the game. I think
Speaker 1: there could be a lot of carryover with listeners like
Speaker 1: enjoying both. So I'm giving NFL Daily. I'm sure iHeart
Speaker 1: if you're listening out there, or the NFL will support.
Speaker 2: Of a budget.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had no complaints and they've been great. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to do some advertising on the Parsons podcast
Speaker 1: because this is going to be the story of the
Speaker 1: off season, which Ian Rappaport helped to introduce.
Speaker 4: So thank you Ian.
Speaker 1: It was like his gift to us. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: these quotes. It was these quotes from Stephen Jones where
Speaker 1: he was saying, well, it's a balancing act. You need
Speaker 1: to look at are we paying our top two, you know,
Speaker 1: our top players too much money? Maybe we need to
Speaker 1: spread it out because when those top guys get hurt
Speaker 1: like Trevon Diggs and whatever, like, you really see we're
Speaker 1: missing the depth. And it very much felt like a
Speaker 1: soft launch, either of a mostly fabricated story just to
Speaker 1: get attention or Michael Parsons, who's the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: I've never done that kind of known.
Speaker 1: As being a little bit of a high maintenance player.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they would be considering actually trading like
Speaker 1: the best pure path rusher I've ever seen come into
Speaker 1: the league.
Speaker 4: I think this podcast is going to go off.
Speaker 3: That's what they want you to think, so that you
Speaker 3: keep talking about it.
Speaker 7: Greg, that's been over this.
Speaker 1: Well that was what I said. It's one or the other.
Speaker 1: But I I actually think they're.
Speaker 3: Think Micah to do this. I think Micah understands it,
Speaker 3: understands it too. I think he and and Jerry Jones
Speaker 3: can sort of pull all of the levers and be
Speaker 3: the Woody Harrelson jiff of crying into their fistfuls of
Speaker 3: money at the end of this.
Speaker 4: It's called The Edge with Michaeh. Parsons.
Speaker 7: It's a great show, by the way, very candid.
Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, this if he is on the
Speaker 1: trade block, like I can just picture it's not that
Speaker 1: far away.
Speaker 4: We're at the combine.
Speaker 1: We're doing a show from there, and everyone is talking
Speaker 1: about the biggest story of the day is what Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons said on The Edge with Michael Parsons about the
Speaker 1: trade rumors going around, and that's that's only like I
Speaker 1: wonder two months await and then everyone's like, Wow, what
Speaker 1: was the ad for that really cool podcast with Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 5: You think that there's going to be a situation with
Speaker 5: Cam Jordan's Off the Edge podcast and Michael Parsons The
Speaker 5: Edge podcast.
Speaker 4: I don't know which one was first. I assume it
Speaker 4: was Off the Edge with Cam Jordan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been doing that for a minute.
Speaker 4: That's that's not fair. I don't like it, all right, Jordan.
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, Mike Evans has hit at least one thousand
Speaker 3: receiving yards per season in each of his ten NFL seasons.
Speaker 3: He's two hundred and fifty one yards away from exactly
Speaker 3: one thousand yards with three regular season games left two
Speaker 3: If you're a put seventeen games person, which in fairness
Speaker 3: that's that is a valid thing to be. My gift
Speaker 3: to Mike, You're gonna keep your streak intact. I don't
Speaker 3: care what happens over the next two weeks. You get
Speaker 3: your streak. You are joy on a football field. Your
Speaker 3: existence and excellence for so long makes me and so
Speaker 3: many others who appreciate the craft of your game happy.
Speaker 3: You are getting your streak, Mike Evans, My gift, the
Speaker 3: world's gift, the universes, Football's gift to you for giving
Speaker 3: so much to it over the last ten years.
Speaker 4: Only two hundred and fifty one yards away.
Speaker 7: M hm.
Speaker 2: He went off this weekend and really did.
Speaker 3: He would tie Jerry Rice's record of eleven consecutive seasons
Speaker 3: with at least one thousand receiving yards.
Speaker 1: He streak is a rare streak that everyone agrees on,
Speaker 1: like everyone's happy.
Speaker 7: That that's what Christmas is all about.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: Just a couple of quick ones too that just thrown out.
Speaker 1: These are more like stocking stuff or for Drod Mayo,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like give them a filter.
Speaker 7: I didn't get one like a Britta, like a Britta
Speaker 7: a Britta filter.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is more of a metaphysical one, kind of like
Speaker 1: you were given out, just like I didn't realize this
Speaker 1: until pretty recently in life.
Speaker 4: I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 1: You can have on expressed thoughts, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like if something moment, if something comes into your head,
Speaker 1: you don't have to just immediately say it. There can
Speaker 1: be a there can be something in between when you
Speaker 1: think it and when it comes out of your mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or it just doesn't come out of your mouth
Speaker 2: the thought.
Speaker 1: That's that's what the filter's for. I could hold it
Speaker 1: for later, you can hold it for never. But I
Speaker 1: think Girod could use it.
Speaker 3: I have a very timely story about this, actually, Greg,
Speaker 3: because you and I were texting earlier this week and
Speaker 3: you texted me a take about.
Speaker 4: Drake may and we don't need to go back to
Speaker 4: more Ja and.
Speaker 3: I said, well, I know this is the arc of
Speaker 3: the Greg universe always cycles back to Drake may So
Speaker 3: you texted me this take that you had and I said, oh,
Speaker 3: you said, I'm about to post it on Twitter just
Speaker 3: to feel alive. And I said, oh, ri ip and
Speaker 3: then you said no, you were the buffer between me
Speaker 3: actually saying it, except you said it anyway on the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't that. How to take the podcast is
Speaker 1: different than sending on Twitter. Just that if you're in
Speaker 1: a redraft. I think he's an absolutely reasonable QB one
Speaker 1: now he would be then.
Speaker 7: A second time. Yeah, all right, well that's good.
Speaker 4: That's it. It's different.
Speaker 1: Twitter is angry or they get they get all worked
Speaker 1: up podcasts. We're friendly here and then we're finally Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I just want to give them a night out without
Speaker 1: the kids, you know what I mean. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're enjoying the moment enough. They're like seven and seven.
Speaker 1: No one pays attention to them. It's like this story
Speaker 1: is great, they're over under before the year was like
Speaker 1: five and a half. Like it just feels like the
Speaker 1: vibes aren't as good as they should be, Like the
Speaker 1: way they're coaching up, this relative lack of talent. Be
Speaker 1: happy with what you are, and also just they do
Speaker 1: need a little love and attention. So just a night
Speaker 1: out maybe to get pampered without the kids. And we
Speaker 1: find out on Tuesday as we're taping this that they're
Speaker 1: getting put in prime time on NFL Network RG.
Speaker 7: That's some real host stuff right there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Nice.
Speaker 1: This gift was written down before I knew the NFL
Speaker 1: Network triple header, which, by the way, in a couple Saturdays,
Speaker 1: Colleen I read as part of the press release is
Speaker 1: hosting this whole day.
Speaker 4: Wait, you're giving me a look now you're going me brekface.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 2: I forgot that I was doing.
Speaker 5: You are aware of this, Okay, So remember that I'm
Speaker 5: doing the doubleheader this Saturday too, and I recently remembered.
Speaker 1: That it's pretty good on NFL Tripleheader Chargers Patriots. So
Speaker 1: you got Drake May Justin Herbert, which I think is
Speaker 1: probably his best comp in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's Justin Herbert. That's a fun quarterback magic.
Speaker 1: You have Bengals Broncos, which depended on the results of
Speaker 1: this week's TF, Bengals could be right in it and
Speaker 1: hope that the Chargers are collapsing.
Speaker 4: Either way, they should still well Denver.
Speaker 5: Also, if they beat the Chargers on TNF that they
Speaker 5: could clinch a playoff spot.
Speaker 1: So that's fun too. And then, yeah, the Cardinals haven't
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of pop this year. I feel like,
Speaker 1: despite all the fun, you want to prove it. Come
Speaker 1: to Hollywood. You got Jordan rod Rieg up in the
Speaker 1: press box. It's a Saturday night game. Everyone's watching. Their
Speaker 1: playoff lives will be on the line. That's fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think one of the previous games
Speaker 3: they played this year was the lowest watched game in
Speaker 3: recorded broadcast history, right the one on was that the
Speaker 3: Cardinals ESPN Plus.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well that's it.
Speaker 3: The INtime they'll be in primetime, they'll be able to hopefully,
Speaker 3: I mean you know what, they might even feel extra
Speaker 3: charitable this holiday season and get Trey McBride a touchdown.
Speaker 3: That would finally, that would be I mean, generally, as
Speaker 3: long as we're giving things, that would be.
Speaker 4: No, absolutely great.
Speaker 1: And I love I love that this division is coming
Speaker 1: down to these last couple of weeks. The Rams will
Speaker 1: have the Cardinals and Seahawks back to back, and those
Speaker 1: two games will help decide it.
Speaker 4: All Right, we are taking another break.
Speaker 1: We're gonna come back, We're gonna talk a little Broncos Chargers. Yes,
Speaker 1: that will game will inform your tripleheader. It's Colleen Wolf
Speaker 1: season on NFL Network.
Speaker 7: It's the Winter of Josh and Colleen. Yes.
Speaker 4: Hey, now where was this one?
Speaker 7: Trans Siberian Orchestra? Oh, this is my style of Christmas music.
Speaker 4: This is very like NFL game.
Speaker 1: It's holiday coverage type of music, which is probably why
Speaker 1: it's in our music library somewhere.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: It was like the TNF two thousand and seven team,
Speaker 1: like intro to cover.
Speaker 5: I was thinking the other day, like I can't believe
Speaker 5: the Fox is still doing football robot too, Like that
Speaker 5: has been a thing for so long, Football robot.
Speaker 7: It's like a mascot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh baby, are people are attached to it? Maybe
Speaker 1: now that if they took it away they'd be mad.
Speaker 1: They're still doing the drawings, you know, the drawing that
Speaker 1: make you look like a superhero or just weird or
Speaker 1: way hotter than.
Speaker 4: You actually are. It's like one of the one of
Speaker 4: the three.
Speaker 1: All right, it's time for our TNF preview presented by
Speaker 1: Prime Video. Justin Herbert not a guy who needs to
Speaker 1: be made any better looking, A fine looking young man
Speaker 1: who is going to be going up against Bo Nicks
Speaker 1: and this Broncos team. The Chargers won the first time around,
Speaker 1: so they could sweep them, they would have the better
Speaker 1: seed in the AFC. I think that could kind of
Speaker 1: matter because if you can get the best wild card
Speaker 1: seed here or even the second best, you might avoid
Speaker 1: the Bills. Who knows, though, it's a lot of guesswork
Speaker 1: how how it will work out, even.
Speaker 5: How you do all of these like different combinations and yeah,
Speaker 5: oh all of the you go into the lab this
Speaker 5: time of season.
Speaker 2: So I kind of rely on that that.
Speaker 1: That is true, and that's why this game is in
Speaker 1: a weird spot. Sometimes games like this happen where both
Speaker 1: teams are probably in but it's a bigger game for
Speaker 1: the Chargers because they're a game behind and if they
Speaker 1: lost it, they would fall to eight and seven, and
Speaker 1: suddenly they would be in a situation where they would
Speaker 1: not be able to stumble down the stretch with some
Speaker 1: easier games. Broncos coming off a good one, like they
Speaker 1: just seem like they're a better team now than the Chargers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, haven't they won four straight?
Speaker 1: Because I'm always kind of rooting for the Chargers, but
Speaker 1: I have to admit the Broncos are just like when
Speaker 1: you're better. And I think about this every game for
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Is their offensive line better than the other
Speaker 1: team's defensive line in this game, despite Joey Bosa and
Speaker 1: Khleil Mak, The answer is yes, like the Chargers just
Speaker 1: haven't been rushing the past row. And then on the
Speaker 1: flip side, is their pass rush better than the other
Speaker 1: team's offensive line? Again, the answer is yes. When the
Speaker 1: answer to that is yes, almost every week you win
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 3: Of One of the things I to that point is
Speaker 3: these are both units on either side of the ball
Speaker 3: that have gotten better and better and better and better
Speaker 3: as time has passed in Denver, and the Chargers have
Speaker 3: either stayed the same or have deteriorated in some ways,
Speaker 3: sometimes due to injury, other times just due to a
Speaker 3: lack of completeness or dimension that it exists within that
Speaker 3: team right now. You know, I've remained really impressed with
Speaker 3: what Jesse Minter has done with that defense considering what
Speaker 3: they entered the season with. But the Broncos are just
Speaker 3: playing more complete And that's how I kind of describe
Speaker 3: the Broncos right now.
Speaker 7: This is the time of year.
Speaker 3: Where you want to be as complete a team as
Speaker 3: possible in every phase.
Speaker 7: The defense isn't just solid. They are attacking.
Speaker 3: You know, the Broncos and the Chargers defense are two
Speaker 3: of the three teams that are leading the league right
Speaker 3: now in limiting points per game.
Speaker 7: What is the third team? Your favorite?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 7: What the third team?
Speaker 3: That's the third team that at the three way tie
Speaker 3: and teams that are a limiting.
Speaker 1: Score Christmas, I'd like to get Colleen like, pay attention college.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I was trying to see the Eagles for you, Colleen.
Speaker 5: Well, I go to see the Eagles, but I wasn't
Speaker 5: actually eat.
Speaker 3: But the difference, though, is that the Broncos are scoring.
Speaker 3: They lead the league in scoring defense right now. They've
Speaker 3: accounted for thirty four points between interception returns for touchdown,
Speaker 3: fumble recovers for touchdown, and safeties. And that's the difference.
Speaker 3: And the Chargers I think have scored once on defense
Speaker 3: this season. I'd have to fact check. I'm sure someone
Speaker 3: will tell me online at some point after this runs.
Speaker 3: But this is that's the difference is It's not just
Speaker 3: the completeness, but they also attack and they're asserting and
Speaker 3: on the other side of the ball. I don't feel
Speaker 3: the Chargers attacking teams very effectively. It's like a banged
Speaker 3: up Justin Herbert throwing to a banged up lad Mconkey,
Speaker 3: and that is really fun and exciting, but they're not
Speaker 3: running the ball effectively. Meanwhile, the Broncos just seem to
Speaker 3: keep getting better as to passes, or even if better's
Speaker 3: not exactly the right word, completeness. You feel this completeness
Speaker 3: with what they can do.
Speaker 5: And the Broncos they had this late buy, which is
Speaker 5: always helpful.
Speaker 2: They've won four straight.
Speaker 5: The Chargers have lost three of their last four, and
Speaker 5: like when you think about that game against the Chiefs,
Speaker 5: how it came down to the very end. Justin Herbert
Speaker 5: now he's dealing with this ankle injury on a short week.
Speaker 5: They need to fix things. They don't have time to
Speaker 5: fix things, they don't have time to heal. I expect
Speaker 5: the pass rush to absolutely get after Justin Herbert. He's
Speaker 5: not going to be as mobile, obviously, and we saw
Speaker 5: what they were able to do against Anthony Richardson, who
Speaker 5: is a lot more mobile. And I just think that
Speaker 5: the Broncos pass rush they'll have time to get to
Speaker 5: Herbert because I saw that Patrick Surtan. He was on
Speaker 5: the estimated practice report a full participant. So the secondary
Speaker 5: I expect them to hold up and give the pass
Speaker 5: rush even more time.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's really great for the charge.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't either. I'm trying to make the case
Speaker 1: for it now. The offensive line for the Chargers really
Speaker 1: struggled with the Bucks blitzes last week. The Chargers are
Speaker 1: actually second in the league in terms of giving up
Speaker 1: unblocked pressures, so just no one's blocked, there's total confusion
Speaker 1: where to block the guy. And yet they're right in
Speaker 1: the middle of the pack in total pressures, which to
Speaker 1: me is a justin Herbert stat which he gets rid
Speaker 1: of the ball. I do remember this first game they
Speaker 1: went on these long drives the Chargers did. They got
Speaker 1: out to a huge lead in Denver. It was probably
Speaker 1: their most impressive performance of the season. Two that point,
Speaker 1: Herbert was finally healthy and moving around. And I do think,
Speaker 1: even though this wasn't the case last week, he's such
Speaker 1: a smart player that I worry about blitzing him because
Speaker 1: I think sometimes that plays into his hands, that he
Speaker 1: knows where to go with the ball and it gives
Speaker 1: him easier answers, and his guys don't get that open
Speaker 1: in general, so if there's less guys in the secondary,
Speaker 1: they can be a little more open. And he's such
Speaker 1: a smart quarterback that it almost helps to find what
Speaker 1: he needs to do for an offense that's struggling to
Speaker 1: create open receivers.
Speaker 4: Said.
Speaker 1: The Bucks cooked him up pretty good last week, especially
Speaker 1: after there was a play where they fell on his ankle.
Speaker 1: His numbers before that injury eight for ten one zero
Speaker 1: for one hundred and one yards. After he was thirteen
Speaker 1: for twenty three for ninety four yards in an interception.
Speaker 2: So they were shut out in the second half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it got ugly and we'll see. Like I
Speaker 1: do think like you just need Justin Herbert to be
Speaker 1: the best player in this game by a decent amount,
Speaker 1: and that's just the Charger's best hope that they have him,
Speaker 1: and the Broncos don't.
Speaker 4: They have bo Nicks, who struggled the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: That's part of the reason I think they're going to
Speaker 3: try to throw stuff at him and get him not
Speaker 3: just in a vulnerable position physically for you know, taking
Speaker 3: hits or whatever, but in a vulnerable position where They're
Speaker 3: going to see how well he can move on that leg,
Speaker 3: which is going to be harder to do as the
Speaker 3: game goes on, because you can treat it up the
Speaker 3: way that you know you do before a game, but
Speaker 3: as time passes through that game, if a team keeps attacking, attacking, attacking,
Speaker 3: like I almost wonder if they really get after him early.
Speaker 3: The problem too with the Chargers right now is the
Speaker 3: lack of dimension in the ways that they can protect him.
Speaker 3: One of the ways that you can protect a quarterback
Speaker 3: who is banged up is with the run game, and
Speaker 3: they haven't been running the ball effectively, and again part
Speaker 3: of that is due to injury, but the other part
Speaker 3: is they just have not been executing very effectively. And
Speaker 3: then the most effective and efficient play becomes put the
Speaker 3: ball in justin Herbert's hand. Yeah, because he's the best
Speaker 3: player on the team, So put the ball in his hands.
Speaker 3: And on the one hand, you can understand the logic,
Speaker 3: but then on the other hand, it opens them up
Speaker 3: to get killed out there, So they're in a tough spot.
Speaker 3: The line to walk for an effective game plan when
Speaker 3: you do have a superstar quarterback but he is hurt
Speaker 3: in this way, and banged up in this way is
Speaker 3: so so thin in terms of what kind of a plan.
Speaker 3: And I just believe, because I've seen the Broncos, especially
Speaker 3: their defense and now their offense, win in a couple
Speaker 3: of different ways this season, that they'll be able to
Speaker 3: adjust to what the Chargers tren do.
Speaker 5: I think, because they can't establish the run, they're going
Speaker 5: to just be forced into obvious passing situations. And if
Speaker 5: Herbert's ankle is still a real issue, the Broncos are
Speaker 5: going to win this and they'll clinch their.
Speaker 2: First playoff spot since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: On the flip side, the Chargers defense got cooked by
Speaker 1: Tampa in the second half of that game. Look, they
Speaker 1: were head by four at halftime, it was seventeen thirteen.
Speaker 1: And there are some similarities I think between the Bucks
Speaker 1: and the Broncos in terms of their quarterbacks get the
Speaker 1: ball out really quickly, their coordinators can really scheme up
Speaker 1: open receivers. That both teams are really good blocking for
Speaker 1: their receivers on the perimeter and just kind of creating
Speaker 1: first thread football. And that's what bo Nicks needs. When
Speaker 1: when you take away his first lead, he is just
Speaker 1: not nearly as effective. That is the Chargers' best hope
Speaker 1: in this game is that bow Knicks's slump, if you
Speaker 1: want to call it, that continues now. Last week he
Speaker 1: was two for eight for thirty three yards and three picks.
Speaker 1: When throwing over ten yards, he struggled. He it was
Speaker 1: a first time since September. He looked like the bow
Speaker 1: Knicks from September. And they closed out the game okay,
Speaker 1: and people were like, yeah, he bounce back and had
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdown passes and it was like just
Speaker 1: a swing pass to you know, a wide receiver that
Speaker 1: got blocked up, and then two other guys that are
Speaker 1: wide open, and we know he can hit the first read.
Speaker 1: So if they can open up plays like that, but
Speaker 1: he he just seemed a little stuck in his head.
Speaker 4: He was at three or four yards per attempt.
Speaker 1: And remember the game before that thereby he threw three
Speaker 1: interceptions in that game as well. So that's that's five
Speaker 1: picks in the last couple of weeks. That would be
Speaker 1: the hope for the Chargers.
Speaker 3: I do wonder if the Broncos try to get his
Speaker 3: pocket moving a little bit, but also get him moving
Speaker 3: a little bit, picking up gimme yards, different things. You
Speaker 3: know this laid down the season. You obviously you don't
Speaker 3: want to put your quarterback in danger. But what you
Speaker 3: said about, you know, the Broncos and the Bucks reminding
Speaker 3: you of each other, like Baker and bow Nicks remind
Speaker 3: me of each other. Yeah, a lot in that regard.
Speaker 3: Were some of these games that Baker has won for
Speaker 3: the Bucks. And Sean Payton certainly has an eye on
Speaker 3: this tab is. You know, he's picking up some of
Speaker 3: the gotta havebit yards by himself that way, extending the
Speaker 3: run game out to the flats, extending the run game
Speaker 3: into what the quarterback can actually do, and that'll change
Speaker 3: the way a defense has to play.
Speaker 7: You might be able to.
Speaker 3: Open up some of that short stuff because you're sending
Speaker 3: one extra defender maybe out into the side or the
Speaker 3: flat area to try to counter the potential that the
Speaker 3: quarterback can pick it up with his legs.
Speaker 4: I'm amazed the Chargers are favored in this game by
Speaker 4: two and a half.
Speaker 7: It's a home it's a home game, right.
Speaker 1: You know it's at home. But it really just feels
Speaker 1: like the Broncos have been a better team lately. And
Speaker 1: even though I'll wear my biases like I want the
Speaker 1: Chargers to win this game. I'm picking the Broncos just
Speaker 1: because you got to pick the team that you think
Speaker 1: is the better team.
Speaker 4: I do think they're a better team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Broncos won.
Speaker 3: I am picking the Broncos. I actually do think it
Speaker 3: will be very low scoring between both teams because I
Speaker 3: think Jesse Minter's defense will rebound in a little bit
Speaker 3: of a.
Speaker 1: Love that and like the Broncos don't have much of
Speaker 1: a running game either, And if when you're making bonicks
Speaker 1: and they're passing game little one dimensional, you're right, that
Speaker 1: could be that could be a low scoring game.
Speaker 4: And shout out to Nick Benito.
Speaker 7: I love watching him play.
Speaker 4: Brongos.
Speaker 1: Fans are pushing like the defensive player of the year stuff,
Speaker 1: and it is.
Speaker 4: You know, it's got.
Speaker 1: It's a tough ass because the first five or six
Speaker 1: weeks of the season, like he had an extremely low
Speaker 1: pressure rate, Like he was by the numbers a below
Speaker 1: average pass rusher for five six weeks of the season.
Speaker 1: But awards are funny sometime. If you do something crazy
Speaker 1: in this game after having these back to back pick
Speaker 1: sixes and you have eleven sacks. If he ends up
Speaker 1: leading the league, in sacks, Like he gets to fifteen
Speaker 1: in sacks and he has one more like really crazy
Speaker 1: memorable play.
Speaker 4: He's got to have a chance.
Speaker 1: So go out there and be special, Nick Benido, because
Speaker 1: you're pretty fun to watch.
Speaker 3: I know, his ascension since week seven Next Gen has
Speaker 3: him the seventh highest pressure rate among you know, all
Speaker 3: edge rushers with at least one hundred and fifty rushes.
Speaker 3: So it's not exactly like if you start the season hot,
Speaker 3: it's ascending. He is kind of to me, embodies what
Speaker 3: a lot of this team has done over this year
Speaker 3: is they've started to ascent, figure things out and really
Speaker 3: go from reacting and responding to what teams treateing to
Speaker 3: them to asserting in different ways.
Speaker 7: And Nick Benito, I think embodies a lot of that.
Speaker 2: It's a microcosm of the team.
Speaker 1: And he's there's actually not an obvious defensive player of
Speaker 1: the Year right now, so maybe go a little crazy.
Speaker 1: That was this week's teenf preview presented by Prime Video.
Speaker 1: Be sure to watch the Denver Broncos take on the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers this Thursday on Prime Video.
Speaker 4: That was it. This was fun.
Speaker 1: This was the last Christmas themed episode until our next one,
Speaker 1: which will be on Christmas Eve morning. No, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that'll be Christmas Eve.
Speaker 7: I don't have any more themed No, I'm I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Come up with something.
Speaker 4: Okay, you're not even gonna be here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but maybe I'll just throw some ideas out.
Speaker 3: We just need We're just gonna do an isolated fan
Speaker 3: cam on Colleen as she celebrates her family Christmas.
Speaker 5: Hey, it'll be entertaining, I promise. Maybe Christmas Carols.
Speaker 4: Maybe we give plat your brother Tim on the show.
Speaker 1: Hey, finally give him some pop right, all right, Look,
Speaker 1: when we're breaking down, the NFL network's got a triple
Speaker 1: header with with Colleen in the mix.
Speaker 4: You know football is back Wednesday