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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation, and welcome to the Drive on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. West Shouler and Matt Williamson with

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Speaker 2: you here for the next two hours on a Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: as we have plenty to get to. As always kind

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Speaker 2: of the day after a big day across the National

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Speaker 2: Football League.

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Speaker 3: It's a little quiet today.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it always is after day like that. Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: Like one of the old cliches is like the worst

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Speaker 2: day of sports talk radio is in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the summer, the day after the Major League Baseball Star Game.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's nothing going on.

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Speaker 2: There's no baseball, there's no nothing. It's like the middle

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Speaker 2: of July. I guess today is maybe kind of the

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Speaker 2: equivalent of that for the NFL NFL standards, NFL standards,

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Speaker 2: which is rarely quiet, and we still have plenty to

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Speaker 2: get to though. We will talk to our buddy Chris

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Speaker 2: Hallick here in just a few minutes get his thoughts

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Speaker 2: on all the moving and shaking around the league yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and of course any pertinent Steelers injury updates. It is

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday, so we will also go around campus. We

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Speaker 2: will also do a little Best of the West plenty

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Speaker 2: to get to here Matt as we roll along.

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Speaker 3: But I wanted to start, you know.

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Speaker 2: Typically Tuesday we do like a Tuesday rewind where it's

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Speaker 2: kind of maybe some final observations from the previous game.

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Speaker 2: You know, he had chance to go back and watch

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Speaker 2: do Tuesday rewind yesterday because it was such a.

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Speaker 3: Jam pack today.

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Speaker 2: With the NFL trade deadline. So I don't know Wednesday

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Speaker 2: rewind if you want to call it, or just a

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Speaker 2: couple minutes here. Of one thing that I did want

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Speaker 2: it very odd when I went back and watched the

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Speaker 2: game that if you look on paper, if you just

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Speaker 2: look at the stat sheet, the Steelers were not successful

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Speaker 2: at all running the football.

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Speaker 4: No like go back like one of the worst rushing

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Speaker 3: At all year and maybe their worst of the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but if you go back and watch the tape,

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Speaker 2: I really liked what I saw from the offensive line.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I thought it was a good line day.

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Speaker 2: So it's bizarre for me it's hard to kind of

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Speaker 2: evaluate in that regard. I thought it was a good o'

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Speaker 2: line day, particularly for that right side of the offensive

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Speaker 2: line from Fraser, McCormick and Faltanu. Those guys all look

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Speaker 2: like they're on the same page and playing really well.

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Speaker 2: They were good in pass protection. Didn't quite translate to

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Speaker 2: the run game. But that's just kind of what I

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Speaker 2: wanted to pick your brain about, because, like I said,

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Speaker 2: it was weird to me because if you just watched

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Speaker 2: the tape, those guys they're picking up stunts and pass

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Speaker 3: In the run game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it didn't translate to a successful rushing a

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Speaker 4: No, it didn't, and some of it was volume. They

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Speaker 4: didn't run the ball as much as I would have liked,

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Speaker 4: and that goes back to the second half of the

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Speaker 4: Packers game as well. I have no complaints with him,

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Speaker 4: but I think everyone shouldn't be immune to criticism. Warren

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Speaker 4: didn't break as many tackles as he usually does or

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Speaker 4: make as many guys miss as he usually does, so

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Speaker 4: be it, you know. I mean that doesn't concern me

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Speaker 4: a really good spot. Faltaw new to me the more

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Speaker 4: starting to settle in at right tackle and you know,

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Speaker 4: we know who Frasier is. You're right about McCormick. Jones

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Speaker 4: Like they still do it. So I know we're going

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Speaker 4: to talk about like O line ranks and things like that,

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Speaker 4: the Steelers have it easier than most teams pass protection

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Speaker 4: can't argue that one bit. And I will also say

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Speaker 4: But that's what every team does. Your weaknesses, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you absolutely you. You don't have your you know,

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Speaker 2: ninth best hitter hitting fourth in your lineup right.

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Speaker 4: There's a reason for this, the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: Or the Blue Jays or whatever. And yeah, so I

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Speaker 2: think it makes a lot of sense in that regard.

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Speaker 2: You did send me Brandon Thorn here mid season offensive

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Speaker 2: He's got the Steelers of the eleventh best offensive line

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Speaker 2: he gives. So there's like, there's like elite, there's very good,

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Speaker 4: Different tiers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like.

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Speaker 2: On below average and yeh, so he's got them eleventh overall.

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Speaker 3: I think that's Hey, you'll take it. You will take

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think if they're gonna go one way

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Speaker 4: I think so, assuming health knock on woods, I mean,

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Speaker 4: and they are fortunate that they, unlike the upcoming opponent,

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Speaker 4: they've started the same five every game and that's absolutely huge,

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Speaker 4: We haven't had it other than Anderson, but you know,

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Speaker 4: so be it. The other thing that happened today too

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Speaker 4: is I don't love Pro Football focuses O line stuff.

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Speaker 4: But when I when Brandon emailed me that his list,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I wonder where PFS because I know they

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Speaker 4: always keep up with it. Two, you said there are

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Speaker 4: eleventh on elevens on horns. They were ninth and Pro

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Speaker 4: Football Focus too far off. I mean, if you're in

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Speaker 4: experience of this group, and it's clearly trending the right direction. Now,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now you talk about injuries.

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Speaker 4: It's not their fault.

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Speaker 3: It's not their fault, right, but they are way scrolling,

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Speaker 3: keep scrolling.

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Speaker 2: Min goodness, they've got them all the way down in

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Speaker 2: Tier five, thirty seventy second out of thirty two teams

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League. The Chargers line has been

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Speaker 2: decimated by injuries and now Joe all is out for

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Speaker 2: the season due to an ankle injury. This in addition

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Speaker 2: to Makai Beck, then Trey Pipkins, and even Bobby Hart

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Speaker 2: dealing with injuries. Yeah, of course we all know where

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Speaker 2: Sean Slater went down before the season, before it even started.

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Speaker 4: And PFF added in like thirtieth or something.

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Speaker 3: Right, if they're healthy, they might be third.

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Speaker 4: Oh, ye might be fir. They build it right. It's

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Speaker 4: just I always feel for GMS from that way because

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Speaker 4: the perfectly laid plans and it's like that should be

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Speaker 3: It's like a glaring weakness right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're down there with the Raiders and the Texans

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Speaker 4: You do not want to keep No, Like, the Herbert

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Speaker 4: under pressure numbers are crazy this year. I dug up

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Speaker 4: some things about Herbert's numbers with and without Joe Alt

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Speaker 4: on the field this year. Dramatically better when he's out there. Sure,

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Speaker 4: I mean dramatically, I'm sure, yeah, I mean yards for

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Speaker 4: can start talking about the opponent a little bit here,

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Speaker 4: I mean, to me, I would be very worried from

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Speaker 4: especially coming off the game that Steelers just had. But

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Speaker 4: I think the real story, like you opened the show with, is, guys,

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Speaker 4: it seems always happening throw line two and Dale and

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Speaker 4: I used to joke because the average Steeler fan, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna give you guys a hard time, but can't comments.

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Speaker 3: The average NFL fan in general, right right right, They're

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Speaker 3: not going to talk about thirty one other lines all

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Speaker 4: And I've always said that's something I like to bring

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Speaker 4: to the table, like, boy, you think your low line's bad,

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Speaker 4: let me show you these ten. Go watch the rain,

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Speaker 4: right exactly. So, I think there's a lot of people

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's superstars, but it's good. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's an above average line. It's gotten better and it's improving.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it was better in October than it was

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Speaker 4: in September. Hopefully it's gonna be better in November. It

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Speaker 3: This line at the end says it all for the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers are going to simply have to gut it

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Speaker 2: out for the rest of the season without with multiple

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Speaker 2: backups and no clear avenue for stability.

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Speaker 4: Right, that's it.

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Speaker 2: This is what you got, Max Stars, Barbecue, barbecue chicken,

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Speaker 2: those boys on Sunday Night Football. We'll talk about all

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Speaker 2: that and more with our buddy Chris Halleck when we return.

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Speaker 3: On the other side. Just getting started, Wes Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here on a Wednesday and joining

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Speaker 2: us now. It's our regular Wednesday guest to the program.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Chris Halleck covers the Steelers for dk Pittsburgh Sports.

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Speaker 2: Chris partner a lot that we want to discuss with

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Speaker 2: you with the Steeler with the trade deadline, let's jump

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Speaker 2: right into it. Thank you for taking the time. As always,

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Speaker 2: Matt and I were kind of talking some offensive line

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Speaker 2: units to start the show today, and you know, talking

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Speaker 2: about the Steelers and how much they've improved since the

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Speaker 2: start of the season and Matt had a list of

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Speaker 2: best offensive lines in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: They were ranked eleventh on that.

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus has them ranked ninth in terms of

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Speaker 2: the NFL offensive lines right now. Is that something that

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Speaker 2: you feel is tangible that you've seen. Does it really

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Speaker 2: feel like this group was better in October than they

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Speaker 2: were in September?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're definitely on an upward trajectory. To kind of

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Speaker 6: use a Mike Tomlin ism right there, or at least

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Speaker 6: a turn of phrase. Yeah, I think they're definitely a

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Speaker 6: unit that's improving. There's definitely room to grow. Like when

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Speaker 6: you look at you know, the totality of what they're doing,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a real shame because you're right, Chris,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it's you know, you go back to

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Speaker 3: Chris, maybe I bury the lead.

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Speaker 2: I should have probably just asked you off the top,

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Speaker 6: I'm not completely surprised. I did think that Omar was

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Speaker 4: a real seller's market. I was shocked how much people

438
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Speaker 4: got back for everyone. I mean, especially Sauce, but I

439
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Speaker 4: mean in general, the teams that sold players got a

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Speaker 4: better return than they usually do.

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Speaker 6: Well, Well, what fans are going to focus on is

442
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Speaker 6: it took a fourth and a sixth to get Jacoby

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Speaker 6: Myers and a fourth and a fifth to get Rashid Jahid,

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Speaker 6: and you're and then fans are gonna wonder well dealing

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Speaker 6: an exactly, and especially when you know that the Steelers

446
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Speaker 6: could have as many as twelve draft picks in next

447
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Speaker 6: year's draft, and so of course the question at that

448
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Speaker 6: point is, well, why wasn't he willing to part with that?

449
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Speaker 6: And the answer to that question is nothing right now

450
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Speaker 6: is more important. Nothing is more important than getting a

451
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Speaker 6: future quarterback. Aaron Rodgers has been great. The Steelers absolutely

452
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Speaker 6: love everything that he has done for this team so far.

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Speaker 6: But he's not the long term solution. He's forty one

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Speaker 6: years old, he's turning forty two in less than a

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Speaker 6: month or in about a month. He's not the long

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Speaker 6: term solution a quarterback. And that has absolutely been on

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Speaker 6: all my I wrote about this on our app on

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Speaker 6: dk Fitzperth Sports. The quarterback has been and remains the

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Speaker 6: most important, like a long term solution. Omar is tired

460
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Speaker 6: of the one year fixes. He's tired of doing having

461
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Speaker 6: to address this every single offseason, and he might have

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Speaker 6: to do it again in the spring. I mean he

463
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Speaker 6: will have to do it again because Aaron Rodgers is

464
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Speaker 6: on a one year contract. He's going to have to

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Speaker 6: deal with it at some point, whether that's in the

466
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Speaker 6: draft or whatever. But long term solution. Quarterback is the answer.

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Speaker 6: And no, you're not going to be able to take

468
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Speaker 6: all those compensatory picks and just package them all together

469
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Speaker 6: and get some team to take it so that you

470
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Speaker 6: can move up to go get the quarterback. But even

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Speaker 6: if you, let's say they don't even get a quarterback,

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Speaker 6: they don't get an opportunity because there's so many other

473
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Speaker 6: teams that have multiple firsts and they don't get an opportunity.

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Speaker 6: You might have to wait until twenty twenty seven. Why

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Speaker 6: not use the draft picks that you have in next

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Speaker 6: year's draft and get yourself a really great draft class,

477
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Speaker 6: a really strong draft class, and further bolster and solidify

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Speaker 6: that roster so that when that quarterback does come, you're

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Speaker 6: putting him into a great situation like Ben Roethlisberger had

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Speaker 6: when he arrived in Pittsburgh, and not like a situation

481
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Speaker 6: that Bryce Young had or has in Carolina where he

482
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Speaker 6: has literally nothing around him. So that is the I mean,

483
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Speaker 6: it's not just getting to quarterback that is paramount, but

484
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Speaker 6: it's also making sure that he's in the best situation

485
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Speaker 6: possible when that player arrives in Pittsburgh. So no, it

486
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Speaker 6: does not surprise me at all that, he's not willing

487
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Speaker 6: to just throw away a fourth and a sixth to

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Speaker 6: go get Jacobe Myers who might not be here past

489
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty five if he were to be acquired, or

490
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Speaker 6: Shaheed a fourth and a fifth if you give away

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Speaker 6: those draft picks. And by the way, omar CON's done

492
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Speaker 6: pretty darn good with fourth round picks.

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Speaker 3: They really their last few fourth round picks have been

494
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Speaker 3: pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you probably give more than that because you

496
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Speaker 4: had to beat the offer that was on the table, right,

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Speaker 4: So what.

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Speaker 6: Like the point is, like, why give away those picks

499
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Speaker 6: that you've done really well within previous drafts that had

500
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Speaker 6: no return past twenty twenty five. Now, of course you

501
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Speaker 6: could say, well, what if you just signed Jacobe Myers

502
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Speaker 6: to an extension, What if you signed Rashie Jaheed to

503
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Speaker 6: an extension? Well, what if they don't want to what

504
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Speaker 6: if they want to test to the market. Why take

505
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Speaker 6: that chance to literally throw those draft picks away and

506
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Speaker 6: if it doesn't produce a Super Bowl degree, then they

507
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Speaker 6: literally are wasted draft picks. It's not like trading a

508
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Speaker 6: second round pick for DK Metcalf because he turned around

509
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Speaker 6: inside a five year contract. He's gonna be here for

510
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Speaker 6: a while.

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Speaker 3: He's not the Sauce move.

512
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Speaker 4: Or the Quinn Williams move. We're They're not going anywhere

513
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Speaker 4: right These are Reynolds.

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Speaker 6: Exactly, and Omar the Steelers are not in a position

515
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Speaker 6: right right now where they're going to be making those

516
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Speaker 6: all in moves like we saw the Rams do when

517
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Speaker 6: they were trying to build up and try to win

518
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 6: before Aaron Donald right out of time, they made the

519
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Speaker 6: moves to go all in, and they went and they

520
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Speaker 6: and it worked. They won the Super Bowl back in

521
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty one. But that's not what the Steelers are

522
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Speaker 6: doing right now because the primary goal for what Omar

523
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Speaker 6: is doing in terms of long term stability is doing

524
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Speaker 6: whatever he can to figure out the long term solution

525
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Speaker 6: to quarterback because he knows, as many people should, that

526
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Speaker 6: the best chance you ever have of winning Super Bowls

527
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Speaker 6: is to have a franchise quarterback. It's just been proven

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Speaker 6: over the course of the of the game, and it

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Speaker 6: is the It's just it's the most important and it

530
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Speaker 6: should be. So I commend a more for staying true

531
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Speaker 6: to that and not trying to just steal headlines on

532
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Speaker 6: trade deadline day so that fans can have a dopamine rush.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I said it before the deals happened.

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Speaker 4: You know what I would give up for Myers and Shaheed,

535
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Speaker 4: both of whom I'd have a lot of interest in.

536
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Speaker 4: But it wasn't the price that those two teams got.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have get that. There was too much for me.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and I think the Steelers inevitably agreed. I

539
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Speaker 4: can't help myself, Chris. But you've mentioned a couple of times,

540
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Speaker 4: you know, the future quarterback. And I'm not implying that

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Speaker 4: Will Howard's the future starter here, but I know a

542
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Speaker 4: lot of our listeners. What do you think happens with

543
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Speaker 4: his window? I mean, we're churning along through through these

544
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Speaker 4: twenty one days pretty quick.

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Speaker 6: I mean I would think that he got that. I mean, listen,

546
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Speaker 6: they've been only they only have two active quarterbacks. They've

547
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Speaker 6: only had two active quarterbacks now for weeks. I mean

548
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Speaker 6: you would like to think at some point they're going

549
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Speaker 6: to have to put a third on there, just in

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Speaker 6: case something happens, like what if Aaron Rodgers does get injured,

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Speaker 6: what if something happens to Mason Rudolph in practice or whatever?

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Speaker 6: You know, like you have to have like, there's those

553
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Speaker 6: quarterbacks have three Yeah, exactly. So the fact that he's

554
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Speaker 6: even gone this long without having a real third on

555
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Speaker 6: the roster is kind of surprising. So in terms of

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Speaker 6: this year with Will Howard, I would assume at some

557
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 6: point he's gonna he's gonna, you know, be activated and

558
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 6: become the QB three. He'll continue to run scout team

559
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Speaker 6: in practice, and then he'll be there as an emergency

560
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Speaker 6: guy just in case something does happen with Rogers and Rudolph.

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Speaker 6: But I think that was kind of the vision from

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Speaker 6: the beginning as well. Obviously, the injury, you know, threw

563
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Speaker 6: a monkey wrench into that he had to recover from that.

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Speaker 6: But I think just for this year, I think QB

565
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Speaker 6: three is absolutely where he's gonna be in terms of

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Speaker 6: the future and him possibly being the guy. Uh, that's

567
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Speaker 6: very very much TVD. Yeah, he was a six round

568
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 6: pick for a reason.

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Speaker 2: It's funny every time we talk about Will Spark, we

570
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Speaker 2: always get some tweets. We got one last night. I

571
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Speaker 2: don't know if you saw that, Matt. Why do you

572
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: guys hate Will Howard? We do not hate Will Howard.

573
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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're looking for clicks or just want your

574
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 4: podcast to sell or whatever. Say something bad about Will Howard,

575
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: I can or something not glowing about Will Howard, and

576
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 4: you can get a lot of attention.

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Speaker 2: One guy that I will never say something not glowing

578
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Speaker 2: about it's our buddy, Chris Hallick, DK, Pittsburgh Sports, Chris Partner.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for us for taking the time

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Speaker 2: for us here on a Wednesday. Great stuff as always,

581
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Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 6: All right, thanks for having me, guys. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: There he goes Chris Hallick. Yes, Fenn tweeted us last

585
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: night and said, why do you hate Will Howard? All

586
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: you and Matt talk about is drafting a quarterback? But

587
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: why do you already know he isn't it? Because I

588
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: think he can absolutely be it. You said this so well.

589
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: I think it was back during training camp when you

590
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: did a podcast about Will Howard and everybody just came.

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Speaker 4: After you and it wasn't even negative. It's not like

592
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 4: I hate Will Howard. I mean the hate word's crazy,

593
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 4: do there?

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Speaker 2: But anyway you said this, I forget exactly how you

595
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: said it, but I think it's it makes a lot

596
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: of sense. Is that, like quarterback is a luxury item.

597
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to go shopping in the

598
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Speaker 2: later rounds for a quarterback.

599
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 4: No, and hope you hit. It happens.

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Speaker 2: Does it happen, absolutely, But you can also you could

601
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: also like list the guys of Tom Brady obviously sixth

602
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: round pick, Brockerty Brock Party seventh round pick. Russell Wilson

603
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: was a third rounder, Dak Prescott was a fourth rounder.

604
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Speaker 4: But nobody talks about the hundreds that don't make it

605
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 4: from the third to seventh round.

606
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Speaker 3: And there's and there's plenty in the first round that

607
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: don't make it either right right right right, But it's

608
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: like a.

609
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: Poker hand or a blackjackhand or something. You just want

610
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: to give yourself the best odds.

611
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know we.

612
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Speaker 4: Need a theory that you should draft one every year

613
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 4: in some way, shape.

614
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Speaker 2: Or for It worked well for a lot of teams

615
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Speaker 2: that yeah, yeah, you have outlined before how the Packers

616
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: have always done that, even when they had Brett Farv

617
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Speaker 2: and you know they're turning Hassleback and all these other

618
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: guys and and and and Brunner and yeah, sorry not

619
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Speaker 2: Mark Bruner.

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Speaker 3: Mark, Now.

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Speaker 2: Don't cross up your Steelers and Jaguars signals there. Uh,

622
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Speaker 2: I want to see more of Will Howard. Oh yeah,

623
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Speaker 2: but I also.

624
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Speaker 4: I hate that we were robbed of his preseason reps.

625
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: Yes, I also want to Uh.

626
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 4: I'm putting all my ships in that bass.

627
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: I want to go.

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Speaker 2: I want to go shopping in the in the in

629
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Speaker 2: the luxury aisle as well too. At that position, that's

630
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Speaker 2: a that's a big thing for me, like offensive tackle

631
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: and and quarterback, I want to I want to swing

632
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: for the fences absolutely, you know, and listen that whatever

633
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: happens with Will Howard, he's going to have an opportunity

634
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: in some capacity. But I don't think I don't also

635
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: think that that should stop you from going out and

636
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: getting a guy this year or even next year. And

637
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: what both feel like are going to be pretty loaded,

638
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: pretty sizable quarterback classes out of college football.

639
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm glad they drafted him. I projected

640
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 4: him as a long term back, which would be a

641
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 4: very successful pick in the sixth round. Who knows, maybe

642
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 4: he is more if we saw the preseason, we'd have

643
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 4: a different opinion, good or but good bad whatever, you'd

644
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 4: have more information. Sure, and I think he's gonna, you know,

645
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: get a ton of work going forward in the preseason

646
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: things like that. But you can't just be like, oh,

647
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Speaker 4: we got a guy in the sixth round. The rest

648
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: of the league totally missed on this, dude, how would

649
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 4: you know?

650
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's like you said, too, we we wish

651
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: we got so you would have gotten so much more

652
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: of a sample size, so many more data points on

653
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Speaker 2: Will Howard.

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Speaker 4: And it might happen and a million people might come

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Speaker 4: back to me and be like, you don't know what

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Speaker 4: you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that'd be great.

658
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Speaker 4: I hope they do. I hope they do.

659
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Speaker 2: If Will Howard ends up being a top ten quarterback

660
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Speaker 2: in the NFL, I put my hand up and be

661
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Speaker 2: like I was wrong.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is great. And I've never said he can't

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Speaker 4: be I just said you can't count on that.

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Speaker 3: Which is a big difference.

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Speaker 4: That's a big difference, right, big difference. I'mout writing him

666
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Speaker 4: off that he has no chance, you know, it's just

667
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 4: but counting on that guy to be your next Ben

668
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Speaker 4: Roethlisberg or.

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Speaker 3: Nuts Amazar, both from Ohio.

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Speaker 2: A lot of a man, a lot of successful fourth

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Speaker 2: round picks for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Now that we kind of.

673
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 4: Kenny thrown away a fourth and not throwing away but

674
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Speaker 4: fourth and a fifth or sat or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Donson was a fourth round pick. I know didn't

676
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Speaker 2: necessarily pan out here, but look at him player, But

677
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Speaker 2: Dan Moore fourth round pick, Calvin Austin, fourth round pick,

678
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: Nick Herbig fourth round pick, Mason McCormick, fourth round pick.

679
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: And this year Jack Sawyer who you've needed and gotten.

680
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Speaker 4: And all of them don't cost any money in your

681
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 4: salary cap for four years. There's Yeah, there's a lot off.

682
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Speaker 4: Mid round picks are really important.

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Speaker 2: And when you consider Omar Cohn's background too, right of

684
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: cap and money and where to invest your resources into

685
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Speaker 2: money makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 4: And one thing I want to bring up to Chris

688
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: too is let's say they go into next draft with

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Speaker 4: twelve picks. Well, they very well might take one of

690
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Speaker 4: those forces and turn it into a future third, or

691
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Speaker 4: a third turns into a future second. That then maybe

692
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 4: does make you let you move up in the first

693
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 4: round a little bit more, you know what I mean? Yeah,

694
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Speaker 4: you're not gonna probably make twelve or thirteen picks.

695
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Speaker 2: You want all options on the table, Yes, you want

696
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: all options on the table when we come back on

697
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Speaker 2: the other side, you know, speaking to Will Howard speaking

698
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Speaker 2: of NFL Draft, you want to go around campus, Matt Williamson,

699
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Speaker 2: will you return, Let's do it. We'll talk a little

700
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Speaker 2: little quarterbacks, little draft when we return on the other side.

701
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Speaker 2: And I've got a little bit of an observation, a

702
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Speaker 2: bigger picture quarterback observation that I want to run past Matt.

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 2: We'll do all that in the bottom half of the hour,

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Speaker 2: West Juler, Matt Williamson, And is the Drive on Steelers

706
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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

707
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Speaker 1: About drive on your twenty four to seven home of

708
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we come down the

710
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Speaker 2: home stretch of the first hour of this Wednesday programming.

711
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Speaker 3: And with that it means it is time to go

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Speaker 3: around campus.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 2: I know you you look forward to this, don't you.

715
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: You could put your feet up and uh and just kind.

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Speaker 4: Of uet about it too.

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Speaker 3: I do love it, yeah, yeah, I just I love

718
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Speaker 3: I love college football. I love the draft.

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Speaker 2: I love especially that, like we know the Steelers are

720
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Speaker 2: this year, next year going to be in the quarterback market.

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Speaker 4: I can't stress enough though, and I even't did a

722
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Speaker 4: side podcast on this today. It's going to be harder

723
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Speaker 4: than ever than we thought to get your first round quarterback.

724
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 4: And the trade deadline didn't do the Steelers any favors. No,

725
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 4: it did not, and some extra picks to the wrong teams.

726
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 3: It absolutely did not.

727
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Speaker 2: And with that, Matt, let's let's go ahead and start

728
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Speaker 2: it before we get into individuals and some of the

729
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: names that we've been talking about and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: That was my kind of observation that I teased. The

731
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Speaker 2: more and more we get into this college football season,

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Speaker 2: which is now at week eleven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, passed the half.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's there's there's just a few

735
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Speaker 2: weeks left here in the college football season. I mean

736
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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is kind of the end of the regular season,

737
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 2: and then we'll have conference championship games.

738
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Speaker 4: So when the playoffs start, playoffs will.

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Speaker 2: Start like New Year's ish, Okay, like late December, Yeah,

740
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: holiday holiday bowl season. Yes, I think that there's not

741
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: going to be as many quarterbacks coming out of the

742
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Speaker 2: out for the draft this year that we might have

743
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Speaker 2: assumed back in August and even September. Yeah, I certainly

744
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: think some of the names like Fernando Mendoza will yes

745
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: after that, though, Matt I, I really don't know, like

746
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: someone like Dante Moore.

747
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Speaker 4: I say more in Sellers to me are less than

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00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 4: fifty I think so, yeah, because they're gonna make so

749
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Speaker 4: much money.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna make so much money if they stay.

751
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Speaker 2: If you're Dante more, I think both of these guys

752
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: they're not Ty Simpson from Alabama where they're like single

753
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Speaker 2: digit starts in their career, but they don't have a

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Speaker 2: massive body.

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Speaker 3: Of work either.

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Speaker 4: Experience would be helpful.

757
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: Experience would be very helpful. If you're Dante Moore, you

758
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: could stay at Oregon. You can make a ton of money.

759
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: You can run it back for another year for an

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Speaker 2: Oregon team that's gonna be loaded next year.

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Speaker 3: They're really good. They're really good now and they're so young.

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Speaker 4: Like if he returns, they're a preseason top five team,

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Speaker 4: Number one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Leonora Sellers, this year hasn't gone the way he

765
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Speaker 2: wanted it to. That South Carolina has gone has wanted

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Speaker 2: it to gone to. They've been banged up on the

767
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Speaker 2: offensive line, they can't run the football. He's trying to

768
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: do too much. Do you you know, leave and go

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Speaker 2: play at a program like it's not gonna be Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you would want to stay in

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Speaker 2: the SEC, because then he'd have to go up against

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Speaker 2: old school maybe though, I mean, you know, do you

773
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Speaker 2: end up somewhere like an LSU or you know, somewhere

774
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Speaker 2: like that an old miss with Lane Kiffin, whatever the

775
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Speaker 2: case might be. I think there's a real chance that

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Speaker 2: that could be the case. You know, guys like Fernanda

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Speaker 2: Mendoza will come out. Some of these guys Hayes King,

778
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: Carson Beck will come out, but they all.

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Speaker 4: Will unless they get hurt between now and then.

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Speaker 2: They get hurt between now and then too. That's a

781
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: that's an absolute great point. Like, Yeah, Sam Levitt, who's

782
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Speaker 2: the Arizona State quarterback. I really like him. I think

783
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Speaker 2: he's maybe the most underrated guy in this conversation.

784
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Speaker 4: The preseason lists.

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00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: He was on all the.

786
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Speaker 2: Preseason lists, got banged up at the beginning of the year,

787
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: so kind of faded a little bit, came back and

788
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: played really well for a few weeks, and then just

789
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: got hurt again last week.

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Speaker 3: Why would he come out and if.

791
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Speaker 2: His head coach ends up taking a big boy job

792
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: there Kenny Daglish, which could absolutely.

793
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Speaker 3: He is an Arizona State guy.

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00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know he won the Big twelve them

795
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 2: last year, had them in the playoff. I think he

796
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: could get one of these Auburn type jobs really absolute,

797
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Speaker 2: absolutely Auburn Florida, you know, the big something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if that happens, does Sam Levitt transfer from Eric does

799
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Speaker 2: he do a you know a jayde and Daniels good

800
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Speaker 2: few years at Arizona State transferred to a big program

801
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: and end up being a you know, a top five,

802
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Speaker 2: top ten pick.

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Speaker 3: I certainly think that that could be the case.

804
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: So the more and more we get into this thing,

805
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Speaker 2: and I think I've a lot of people have said it.

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00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 2: I think I've been guilty of it too. I probably

807
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: said it times back in early September when we were

808
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Speaker 2: doing this, Matt, there could be six or seven quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: drafted in the first round.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, And that seemed very possible then. That

811
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Speaker 4: was that was not crazy talk.

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Speaker 2: Now I think it'll probably be more like two or

813
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: three or four.

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Speaker 4: And you haven't even mentioned all Er Club, Nick yep

815
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Speaker 4: nus Meyer like they were the ones that were in

816
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Speaker 4: that mix too.

817
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: That Arch Manning arch Manning.

818
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 4: I mean, there was at least with him, people weren't

819
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 4: sure if he's coming out or not. You know, right,

820
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 4: the three I mentioned they could they were definitely in

821
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Speaker 4: those six or seven potential ones.

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00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 4: I'd be shocked if any ofthing. I mean. And there's

824
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Speaker 4: the way all our club Nicks go in the first round.

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00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: Right club all are I don't think so, especially with

826
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Speaker 2: the injury of an injury, and so again that's a

827
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Speaker 2: you know, that's a different than just a underwhelming performance.

828
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Speaker 4: Conversation, all those guys stock has dropped.

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Speaker 2: I do wonder though, if some of like like the

830
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Speaker 2: Club Knicks for example, the nus Smyers, the names that

831
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: we discussed plenty coming into this more than Dante, more

832
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Speaker 2: more than Jade Mayava.

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00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: You know, more than even sim.

834
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if those guys have strong finishes of

835
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: the season, Like Ky Club Nick played probably his best

836
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: game of the year Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Oh good.

838
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: They lost to Duke in a shootout, but he played

839
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: his best game of They lost forty six to forty five.

840
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 2: Duke went for two at the end and won the game.

841
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: UH seventy five percent completion percentage three hundred and eighty

842
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: five yards, two touchdowns, no turnover.

843
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Speaker 4: You know, some of these guys will gain steam again

844
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 4: at the Senior Bowl, at the Combat.

845
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Speaker 7: So if they declare, maybe we're in a weird middle

846
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 7: area right here where it is a lot of the

847
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 7: preseason darlings haven't lived up to the expectations, the Allurs,

848
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 7: the Mannings, the club Nicks, the nus.

849
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Speaker 4: Myers, even like Matier needs to get healthier again.

850
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Speaker 2: And you know, right, but someone like Mendoza is rockinging

851
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: up a list, someone like ty Simpson at Alabama is

852
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 2: rockinging up a list. So maybe Water will find its

853
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: level there and a couple of those big names will

854
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: perform well down the stretch, and then a couple and

855
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 2: maybe we still do have four or five first round

856
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: quarterbacks drafted. I just I don't think it's gonna be

857
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 2: the six or seven like it was looking right maybe

858
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: a month two months ago.

859
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Speaker 4: So many people scoff at you, and you say, well,

860
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 4: next year's class is going to be better than this

861
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 4: year's class, you know, And it is funny because there's

862
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: so many instances of early picks that we didn't even

863
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 4: know were coming. Burrow I mean, Wentz, Baker, I mean

864
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 4: guys are top two picks.

865
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Speaker 3: In the draft. Cam Ward, I mean sam.

866
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 4: Ward when we weren't talking about him, you know, right.

867
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Speaker 4: But from a Steeler perspective, what if Rogers wants to

868
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: come back, What if you want to give Howard a

869
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: ton of preseason raps Rudolph's under contract? Might you wait a.

870
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Speaker 2: Year, especially if if it's Fernando Mendoza in a cast

871
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: of unproven right, right? And what if Dante Moore goes

872
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: back to school, Leonora Sellers goes back to school, Ty

873
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: Simpson goes back to school, and.

874
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Speaker 4: They all come out next year with Arch and Arch.

875
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: And Julian Say and from and then we all get

876
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 2: kind of duped that it ends up being a year

877
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: later than we thought.

878
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: That there's six first round quarterbacks.

879
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 4: Now, of course, the same thing could happen to them too.

880
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 4: They could all get hurt or play terrible or or whatever.

881
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 4: I mean again, you're waiting on the None of us

882
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: have a crystal.

883
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: Ball exactly right, exactly right.

884
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: But as we get more and more into this, I

885
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: think it's so every week I'm thinking it's more and

886
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: more likely that like Leonora Sellers isn't looking like himself.

887
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 2: Why would he why would he come out now?

888
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 4: You know, Dante he's on he's not building the best

889
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 4: resume he possibly can.

890
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: Dante more got banged up and is coming off his

891
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: bye week, So maybe he'll light it on fire these

892
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: last couple of games and we'll end up still getting drafted.

893
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: But someone like ty Simpson.

894
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 4: I mean they're getting vice. Theyre going go on the

895
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: top five overall, they'll come.

896
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: Out right top ten.

897
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, But I think a lot of these guys, and

898
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 2: you know even more so now in this nil era,

899
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: why would you not Like I know we talked about this, Matt,

900
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 2: I still can't believe that Quinn youers entered the draft

901
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 2: last year.

902
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't. I mean, like you can't tell me

903
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 4: Peter Rutgers or Wu or somebody who could have said,

904
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 4: come play be our quarterback for.

905
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: A year and you're gonna make five, six, seven times

906
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: as much as you would have as a.

907
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: Seventh round draft pick. Yeah right, I mean it's yeah,

908
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: speaking of Witch.

909
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 4: I mean I don't want to go through all the teams,

910
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: but like Kyler just got benched. I mean Kyler and

911
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 4: Tua or two that we kind of thought that team

912
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 4: could go either way. It's sure looking like they're gonna

913
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 4: be in the quarterback market more. And there's a lot

914
00:42:59,239 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 4: of them now.

915
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: A lot of them trending in that direction. Maybe the

916
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: Vikings are the only ones that we had them as

917
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: a maybe.

918
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 4: They're looking better, maybe they're.

919
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: Looking better for being for being set. But a lot

920
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: of those other kind of middle ground.

921
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 4: Middles look like they're in the market.

922
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: And now, granted, I feel like that's the case every year.

923
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 3: Everybody always needs.

924
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks, right, We've kind of said this for five years.

925
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 4: As the Steelers go get a Russell Wilson at Trubisky,

926
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 4: you know, like you can't just wait forever. I mean,

927
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 4: but it's gotta be somebody to get I mean, getting

928
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 4: from twenty three to eight isn't going to be easy.

929
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: No, it's not. And because the.

930
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: Rams were two first round picks, that was jump yeteah whatever.

931
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: Whatever, you know, that's where we loved the back in

932
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: September when it looked like there was going to be five, six,

933
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: seven first round quarterbacks. Great, you don't have to jump

934
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: up the six to get one, right, you know, you

935
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: can go to thirteen to get one.

936
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 4: Sure ballin and Mahomes and those guys were not top

937
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: five picks, you know.

938
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, I think it could be different,

939
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: Like there could be three first round quarterbacks and they're

940
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: all taken in the top ten.

941
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, or there's going to be But again, we're crystal

942
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: balling it here. But no one thought Knicks was going

943
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 4: to be a first round pick that year, you know,

944
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 4: And he goes right in the middle of the first

945
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 4: round and most people had a second round grade on him.

946
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 4: It's kind of worked out pretty well for Denver. But

947
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: if the Raiders are picking twelve and the top three

948
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: quarterbacks are off the board, they might just say, we're

949
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: taking quarterbacks, right, you know.

950
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 3: They very well could, They certainly very well.

951
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: Could It's brown, you know what I mean? Right?

952
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: Yes, So let's run through a couple of these names,

953
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: just to update you on where they're at, how they're doing. Uh.

954
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza just another blowout win for Indiana where.

955
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 4: It was just keeps checking the box.

956
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: He just keeps checking the boxes.

957
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: Completed sixty seven percent of his passes over two hundred

958
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: yards one touchdown, did throw an interception only his second

959
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: of the year. Also had twenty four yards rushing and

960
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 2: a rushing touchdown as well.

961
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 3: There. I want to see him in the playoff. You

962
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

963
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: Right now, it's just stay healthy, Big Ten Championship game,

964
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: playoff he's going to play depending on how far they go, two, three, four,

965
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: really big games at the end of the year. If

966
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: he continues to check the boxes, he could be the

967
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: first overall pick.

968
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 3: I should know this.

969
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 4: But well, they they have a chance to be in

970
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 4: the Big Ten Championship. Yes, okay, yes, it's not an

971
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 4: East West thing anymore.

972
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 3: It is not like so right now.

973
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: You know they beat They beat Oregon in that in

974
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: that big match up a couple of weeks ago. So

975
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: if Indiana and Ohio State went out, that would be

976
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: your Big Ten Championship game, okay, and then start the

977
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: Oregon would Oregon would still get into the playoff. It

978
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: is like the is the third Big Ten team. Okay,

979
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: but yes I do.

980
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 4: I was hoping to see him against Ohio State. I

981
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: mean at a Matt Patricia defense.

982
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: Oh it's great, and uh, I don't think they play

983
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: in the regular season. Let me let me just double

984
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: check this, but I yeah, they do not. So Indiana

985
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: has Penn State this weekend, then Wisconsin, then Purdue.

986
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: They should be able to handle business against those three teams.

987
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: Is Penn State scary at all? Yes, I would say

988
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: they still have good players. They still have a good player,

989
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 4: you know, aasonably.

990
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: Tough they did.

991
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: I think they ended up losing by fourteen or seventeen,

992
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: but it was a close game at halftime. They Yeah,

993
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: they didn't. They didn't roll over and die, you know.

994
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: And they're at home against Penn State this Saturday at noon.

995
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: That'll be a decent name.

996
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it won't be one hundred some thousand crazy Penn

997
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: State fans going nuts. I'm sure there'll be plenty of

998
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: empty seats in the upper decks and everything, but that's

999
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: still a team with some pride and.

1000
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: A lot of talent.

1001
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: NFL player on the team, absolutely, absolutely, the highest paid

1002
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator in college football. But yes, I would like

1003
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: to see him against Ohio State as well too. I am,

1004
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: I am, I am, I am with you on that.

1005
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: Dante Moore coming off his bye week, coming off that

1006
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: injury against Wisconsin, it does look like he will return

1007
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: to action against Iowa. That bye week came at the

1008
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: right time. He took a high hit, like a close

1009
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: line type hit against Wisconsin early in the third quarter

1010
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: and did not return, but then gets the bye week

1011
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: to hopefully get healthy. And this is a you know,

1012
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: I think ore against ranked like seventh or eight right now.

1013
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: They have to go to Iowa on the road, Matt,

1014
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: the twentieth ranked team in the country. It's a good

1015
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: test for Dante more Yeah, okay, good. Iowa is another

1016
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: one of those like you know what you're getting, and

1017
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 2: it's usual. They' usually pretty good in the trenches. They've

1018
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: got some bunch of Steelers, They've got some good defensive backs.

1019
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: This will be a good test for Dante Moore off

1020
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 3: the byway.

1021
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 4: Teams aren't easy to play against anyone on their football team.

1022
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 4: But I'm sure it's not an easy game.

1023
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. Never is.

1024
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: And uh and so that one. Yeah, ninth ranked Oregon

1025
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: at number twenty Iowa. That's three point thirty on CBS.

1026
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: That's one of the ones to watch this weekend for sure.

1027
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: Leonora sellers rough Saturday for him, Matt. They got smoked

1028
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: by Old Miss. He completed just fifty three percent of

1029
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 2: his passes one hundred and eighty yards, one touchdown, two interceptions.

1030
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: He did run for a score. I mean, his athleticism

1031
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: is undeniable. Yeah, yeah, but he was sacked six times.

1032
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: Crazy and y I've told you he might have the

1033
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: worst offensive line in the SEC, one of the worst

1034
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: in power for football. They can't run the ball, they

1035
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: can't text him.

1036
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 4: I watched him two weeks ago. Every nice play he

1037
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 4: had maybe come back from a hold or.

1038
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: You know, right, exactly right. But he also, I mean

1039
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: six sacks. It's like he's just getting beat up back there.

1040
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: He is trying to, you know, make magic happen, but

1041
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: it's it's tough. He's turning the ball over because of that.

1042
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: Well that's the thing. Now you get to the point

1043
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: where I'm all, we got so now I have to

1044
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 4: take risks that I usually wouldn't And then you put

1045
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 4: that on tape and how do people interpret that as scouts?

1046
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: And you know, and you mentioned that that Bama game

1047
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: that you watched a couple of weeks ago, where it

1048
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: was like every time he made a play, something negative

1049
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: would happen.

1050
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they battled him to the very very end too.

1051
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 2: It was kind of similar with Old Miss, like they

1052
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: didn't battle Old Miss at the very very end. But man,

1053
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: he made a couple fantastic throws really and his receivers

1054
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: dropped though, right, you know, tripped over their own feet.

1055
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: Like illegal procedures. Everything, everything came back and didn't go

1056
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 4: the way he should.

1057
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: Have, exactly right.

1058
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: And as much as this has not been the year

1059
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: that Leonora's sellers wanted at all, same thing for South

1060
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 2: Carolina can be said.

1061
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 3: You still see it a couple of times a game

1062
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: where it's like.

1063
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: Oh, that's the thing. Quarterback coach would be like, I'll

1064
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 4: work with that.

1065
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: He can throw the deep ball, yeah, he can move yeah.

1066
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like a few times a game you're like,

1067
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: I would still take it.

1068
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: I'd still take that guy in the first round.

1069
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 4: So like part of me hopes like he looks bad

1070
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 4: or gets beat up. I mean, I'm not rooting bad

1071
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 4: for the kid. So he falls to twenty twos behind

1072
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: Rogers for a year, baby, you know like that, I.

1073
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: Would sign him blood. I would sign blood for that

1074
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: right now.

1075
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 4: If you could get him with your first round pick

1076
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 4: and not much else or whatever for the Steelers because

1077
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 4: it's a down year. Oh baby, oh baby. Yeah. If

1078
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 4: he sits behind Rudolph for a year, I mean, whatever

1079
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: it is, yeah.

1080
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: Completely agree, completely agree. A couple more names I want

1081
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 3: to discuss here with you.

1082
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: Matt Jada Miava, the USC quarterback who we've started to

1083
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 2: talk to about a little bit more. He played poorly

1084
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: against Nebraska. They had to go to Nebraska night game.

1085
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: It was a blackout there Memorial Stadium in Nebraska. He

1086
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: was nine of twenty three for one hundred and thirty

1087
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: five yards in an interception. I will give him this.

1088
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: Though he played very poor, he led them down the

1089
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: field in the fourth quarter to score a touchdown and

1090
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: take the lead.

1091
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 4: Okay, so, and he's got traits.

1092
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: He's got traits.

1093
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: Even in a game where he was frustrated, was probably

1094
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: his worst performance of the season, he found a way

1095
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: to lead his team to victory in the fourth quarter.

1096
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 4: I do like that, Okay. I It's not gonna be

1097
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 4: smooth sailing for all these guys all the time.

1098
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's not.

1099
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,479
Speaker 4: I'll be honest. As as an evaluator and been around

1100
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 4: a lot of really good evaluators, you want to see

1101
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 4: these guys struggle. You don't want it to be because

1102
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 4: it's gonna it's Yeah.

1103
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: It's a great point.

1104
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 4: That's a great I remember that day. You didn't have it,

1105
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: but you figured it out a way.

1106
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, the picture does his fastball absolutely?

1107
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 2: Uh. Ty Simpson had a bye week with Alabama. We'll

1108
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 2: see how he does down the stretch.

1109
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: Here. His stock is through the roof.

1110
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: One guy I told you this Matt the other day

1111
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: that I'm out on is Carson Beck.

1112
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 3: Now I get it.

1113
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is his fifth year in college football and

1114
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 2: he still somehow just lacks the leadership and lacks the maturity.

1115
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: He threw two really bad interceptions in Miami's loss at

1116
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: at SMU and then blamed his coaches afterwards like he's.

1117
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 4: Got second time in like this month, he's done that

1118
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: post game.

1119
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: He's got the talent, he's got the frame, he's got

1120
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 2: all that stuff, but he likes.

1121
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 4: Other worldly talent.

1122
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no.

1123
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 2: He lacks the leadership, he lacks the maturity, he lacks

1124
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: like the the IQ. I'm just I think I'm out

1125
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: on this guy. He's given him so many like grains

1126
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: of salt. And he's also not nineteen or twenty in

1127
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: his first year. He's in his fifth year of high

1128
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: level college football. He should know better. Talk to you

1129
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: a little bit about Kate Club Nick. I thought he

1130
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: played his best game of the season and be interested

1131
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: to see what he does down the stretch.

1132
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 4: Maybe him or not can redeem themselves a little bit here.

1133
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Absolutely.

1134
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: Taylor Green, the Arkansas quarterback that we've talked about a

1135
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 2: little bit.

1136
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

1137
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,479
Speaker 2: They lost a tough one to Mississippi State. He's another

1138
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 2: one of those guys who it's just like he They

1139
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: go as he goes, and if he's not playing out

1140
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 2: of his they're gonna lose. And Arkansas fired their coach

1141
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: like a month ago, Sam Pittman. They're kind of reeling.

1142
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: He still makes a lot of plays, you know, with

1143
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: his arm and with his legs, but he's just he's

1144
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: a tough eval for me at this point. He's one

1145
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: that I'm excited to see get to the Senior Bowl

1146
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. That Sawyer Robinson, the Baylor quarterback

1147
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: who I had kind of soured on for a couple

1148
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: of weeks. He performed really nicely this week seventy two, sorry,

1149
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: seventy three percent completion percentage, two hundred and sixty seven yards,

1150
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: three touchdowns, zero interceptions. On the year, mat He's got

1151
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: twenty seven hundred yards passing twenty six touchdowns to just

1152
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: seven interceptions. And one thing that really intrigues me about him,

1153
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: He's kind of the last specific guy that I want

1154
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 2: to talk about here is his offensive coordinator at Baylor

1155
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 2: is a guy named Jake Spavital. Okay, he has been

1156
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: a kind of college football long time quarterback and quarterback coach,

1157
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. He's been at Oklahoma, He's been in Oklahoma State,

1158
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 2: He's been at Texas A and M. He's been at WVU.

1159
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: If you look at the guys that he's coached in college,

1160
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 2: Geno Smith, Will Greer, Johnny Manziel, Kyle Allen, Davis Webb,

1161
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: Brandon Whedon, like he's got a And now I understand

1162
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: that none of those guys lighting the world on fire

1163
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 2: in the NFL.

1164
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 4: But see my thoughts when you read that list where

1165
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 4: none of those guys is JaMarcus Russell. Talent up here

1166
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 4: that is well too, though, but they got the most

1167
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 4: out of their talent. They must speed well coached, you

1168
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 4: know what I mean, absolutely, Josh Allen or mahomes ability,

1169
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 4: you know.

1170
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: Correct, correct, and so that it just intrigues me, like

1171
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: he knows how to have guys have success, get them

1172
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: to the league. You know, Kyle Allen played a long

1173
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: time in the NFL. Will Greer is still in the NFL.

1174
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: Gino Smith still in the NFL. Intriguing to me one Sawyer.

1175
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: Robinson's an intriguing one because he's been up and down

1176
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: this year. But I think he's got some traits. He's

1177
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: six foot four, he's got the frame. He's another one

1178
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: of those guys I want to see, you know, in

1179
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: the in the Senior Bowls and the combine and all

1180
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 2: that stuff. He's one that I think, could you know,

1181
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 2: come January February March, start to start to move up

1182
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 2: in some conversations, I've.

1183
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 4: Kind of thought with him, and again, please don't hold

1184
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 4: me to this because I have not broke him down

1185
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 4: or there's so much more to be written. But even

1186
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 4: like preseason, being exposed to him a little bit, I thought,

1187
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 4: and I know this area doesn't usually work out for

1188
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 4: starting quarterbacks, but he seems like a second round pick

1189
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 4: to me. Yes, you know what I mean, Yes, and

1190
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 4: you see and you see what happens, you.

1191
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: Know, like in the early thirties.

1192
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the bad team that didn't get one

1193
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 4: in the first round.

1194
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 3: Or whatever, you know, like a Tyler Shuck type.

1195
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean Derek Carr, was that guy Garoppolo

1196
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 4: or I mean like a lot of those type of dudes, right, Kaepernick,

1197
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 4: you know.

1198
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: A couple games for everybody to keep an eye on.

1199
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 2: How about LSU at Alabama. I know LSU is reeling

1200
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 2: and they got a lot going on with that program

1201
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: and they fired Brian Kelly, but I think their defense

1202
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: is very good. Okay, I want to see how Ty

1203
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: Simpson perform against them.

1204
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 4: Simpson has a chance to be a very high pick,

1205
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 4: very high.

1206
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been he's been unbelievable. I mean he's he's

1207
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 3: been very good.

1208
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 2: Uh, Indiana is at Penn State at noon, like we mentioned,

1209
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: certainly keep an eye on that one. And then what

1210
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: was the other one that I had highlighted here from

1211
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: a quarterback Oregon orgon Iowa which we mentioned, which we

1212
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: mentioned as well too. Nice test for Dante Moore on

1213
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 2: the road to see how he responds off of a

1214
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:26,479
Speaker 2: bye week.

1215
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 4: So it doesn't sound like there's any game where we're

1216
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 4: having head to head.

1217
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, none of those this week, unfortunately, Matt. That'll do

1218
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: it for our number one. Our number two on the

1219
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 2: other side will do a little Best of the West.

1220
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: We'll talk more about the chargers, and we'll get to

1221
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: some of your tweets. All of that and more in

1222
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: the second hour of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

1223
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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.