1 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: Personally with Dan Fuelsman. 2 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: It was the same time last year where I decided 3 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: to do an episode that addressed a lot of holiday struggles, 4 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: and it was one that I didn't realize so many 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: of us needed. 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: Christmas is my favorite time of year. 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: I love the warm lights, I love the yummy treats 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: and spending time with family and friends and going to 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: holiday pop up bars where there's all kinds of pretty, 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: sparkly decorations. And I put up my Christmas decorations way 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: earlier than the world approves of because I can't wait 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: for the season to come. But what I realized in 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: doing that episode and gearing up to do that first 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: episode was how much this holiday also means grief and 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: sorrow and sadness and anger and comes with many more 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: emotions than just joy. And so I had done that 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: episode and hopes to bring people together even more in 18 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: a season that's meant to bring people together, but not 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: through the happiness and the lights and the presence, but 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: through things that are hard. And you guys all shared 21 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: so many things about your lives, and you've done it 22 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: this year again in audio form, so people can hear 23 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: your voices through the things that you've gone through, and 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to share these things that you've shared 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: with me and been vulnerable enough to open up so 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,639 Speaker 2: that other people can feel less alone through similar things 27 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: they may be facing. And I know that not only 28 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: with Christmas, New Year's follows soon after, and that means 29 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: people are going to be posting a lot of highlight reels, 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: a lot of things that you're going to see where. 31 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: They had this banger year, and you're gonna look at it. 32 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: And say, holy crap, that's not what my life looks 33 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: like at all. And I need you to know that 34 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: it's not what most of our lives look like. Now 35 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a vulnerable moment for me. 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: This has been a beautiful year for me along with 37 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: a really hard year. I've lost certain people close to 38 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: me in different friendships, and a lot of things have 39 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: happened in my family, and I have been heartbroken over 40 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: dealing with my dog and my cat both being diagnosed 41 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: with two lifelong diseases that were now having to face 42 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: and treat for the rest of their lives, and at 43 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: the same time meeting someone who I genuinely believe I'm 44 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 2: going to spend the rest of my life with and 45 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: also having my dog and cat make full recoveries at 46 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: this moment in time, and having people who do surround me, 47 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: that love me and so port me in so many ways. 48 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: So while this year thankfully hasn't come with much grief 49 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: in the passing, since I do identify with those as 50 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: I've lost both of my grandparents, and the holidays often 51 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: bring that grief back up because I miss going to 52 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: their house on Christmas Eve to play poker with all 53 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: my uncles when I was very much not good on it, 54 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: but I'd sit on my dad's lap and steal all 55 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: those coins to play it. And the holidays do bring 56 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: up hard things as much as it could be a 57 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: beautiful year, and it has been an awesome year. I 58 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: look at this life that I've gotten to live in 59 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: the past year, and I got to host my first 60 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: ever show that's gonna be on streaming platforms, and my 61 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: health is improving after years of me putting it through 62 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: the wringer, and and I did meet someone incredibly special. 63 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: So I know that a lot of us are feeling 64 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: mixed feelings with the holiday approaching and with the season 65 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: happening already. So it's why I do this episode, and 66 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: I can't wait to now dive into all of the 67 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: things that you guys have shared, and I hope all 68 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: of us throughout this episode can feel seen and connected 69 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: and maybe, just maybe it will make this holiday a 70 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: little bit easier. And if you're watching this on YouTube, 71 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: then I have my emotional support water bottle here because one, 72 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: I don't drink near enough water, but also I have 73 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: a feeling I'm just gonna need a few water breaks 74 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: throughout this episode. I almost already needed one. If we're 75 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 2: going to start here, I'm not going to share any names. 76 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: People were kind enough to share them, but I think 77 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: it's best just to share their voices and let you 78 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: hear their stories. So we're going to start here with 79 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: the first one. 80 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 4: Honestly, twenty twenty five was the hardest year that I've. 81 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: Walked through. 82 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 5: And as we just. 83 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 4: Went through Thanksgiving and now we're approaching Christmas and the 84 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: new year, it's hard. I don't feel excited or joyful, 85 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 4: and you see all these people around you and on 86 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: social media, and it feels like everybody else is so 87 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: happy and joyful and has wonderful friends and family. And yes, 88 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: I'm surrounded by people but I'm surrounded by people, yet 89 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 4: I feel so alone. And I know as the new 90 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 4: year approaches, everyone's going to be posting their highlight reels 91 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: and all the things that they've accomplished, and truly, I 92 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 4: feel like the only thing I've accomplished this year is 93 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 4: surviving it. 94 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: Well. I think a lot of us can relate to that, 95 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: because surviving, not thriving has been the phrase for many 96 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: for several years, and it is a very isolating feeling 97 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: to feel like you're just surviving all the time when 98 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: the health struggles I've dealt with this year, I've realized 99 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: a lot about myself and about my body and that 100 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: I was in fight or flight for a really long 101 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: time following a very traumatic episode in my life, and 102 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: it just continued to spiral with the way that I 103 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: was treating and allowing myself to feel. And I think 104 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: it can be so difficult to find our way out 105 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: when we feel alone, when we feel like we can't 106 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: come back from something. And I know that feeling all 107 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: too well. Where you sit in a room and you're 108 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: surrounded by people, it seems like it'd be beautiful, but 109 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: everything in you is numb or everything and you can't 110 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: feel what's happening in that moment, and you need away 111 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: from it. I hope you know that's normal. I don't 112 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: think anybody, for one hundred percent of their life ever 113 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: feels completely on And we've all had these moments, whether 114 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: it be because of hard things or just because mental 115 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: health has been pushed to the limits. It's okay to 116 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: feel that way, and you're definitely not alone in that struggle. 117 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: We got another one here. 118 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 6: In January, I bought the family business. In April, I 119 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 6: left my abusive ex husband and became a single mom. Yesterday, 120 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 6: a judge granted me said divorce despite him fighting against 121 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 6: it every step of the way. 122 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 7: And this month I turned thirty. 123 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 6: Even though good things that happened to me this year, 124 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 6: it still feels bittersweet. 125 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 8: Because I'm grieving the. 126 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 6: Life I thought I would have by the time I 127 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 6: turned thirty. 128 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: First, I want to say, if you again are watching 129 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: on YouTube, you saw me fist bump, Because anybody leaving 130 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: an abusive relationship should have all the praise in the world. 131 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: It's one of the hardest things to get out of, 132 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: and especially with kids. I cannot imagine the extra toll 133 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: it took on your body to go through that divorce, 134 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: to fight like hell to get out of it and 135 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: put yourself first for once and what was probably years. 136 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: And I know that it's going to be a long 137 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: road ahead, a long road for healing for you and 138 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: a long road of recovery for your whole family. 139 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: But I'm proud of you. I'm so proud that you 140 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: did take that step and put yourself first and fought 141 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: to do it. 142 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: And while the road is going to be long, it's 143 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: going to be and it will be beautiful, and you're 144 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: gonna think yourself a whole lot. I'm sure you already 145 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: are as you sent that voice note, because I would 146 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: imagine a weight has been lifted off of your shoulders 147 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: in a whole bunch of different ways, and taking over 148 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: a family business while also doing all of that is 149 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: absolutely wild. 150 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: Then you're a superhuman and I think it's so cool 151 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: that you believed in yourself to do all of it. 152 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: And we should praise us getting to do the things 153 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: that we've always wanted to do and finally doing them. 154 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: That's an accomplishment all in itself. But I can also 155 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: imagine the grief that's coming. When I had left my 156 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: abusive relationship. It was incredibly difficult to remember all the 157 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: bad things that happened, not only just because I blocked 158 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: them out, but because he had me really believing in 159 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: a life that supposed to happen, and I had to 160 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: rewrite the entire life that I wanted for my future 161 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: and rewrite a lot of my story that didn't have 162 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: another narrative in it. So that grief that comes with 163 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: that will be hard. But I'm just so proud of you, 164 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: and I think this is going to be your next 165 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: best season yet. And I hope that your community rallies 166 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: around you and your village to help you raise your 167 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: kiddos in a way that's beautiful and protected. And I 168 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: hope that just all the good things come your way. 169 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: This is kind of up the same realm, so I 170 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: put these two together. 171 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 7: This season is rough for me because it's a constant 172 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 7: reminder that I had to give up the life I 173 00:10:54,960 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 7: was living to pursue the life I was dreaming of. 174 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 7: I've been divorced from my husband for ten years now. 175 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: We have both moved on. 176 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 7: I've been with my fiance for hello. 177 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 9: Over three years now, but me and my ex shared 178 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 9: three kids, so the holiday season is a constant reminder of. 179 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 10: Missed tradition, memories and moments that I didn't get to 180 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 10: have with my kids and he didn't get to have 181 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 10: with them either. It's just rough. 182 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 7: It's hard to put your mental well being over everything else. 183 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 5: So this is just a reminder. 184 00:11:53,520 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 7: That it's hard, but at the end, it's worth it. 185 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: It is absolutely worth it. 186 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: And two things can be true, right that it's the 187 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: best thing you did to get a divorce, while also 188 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: it was hard and you wish that it did work out, 189 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: and it's beautiful that you have both moved on and 190 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: found different lives. But I don't know that the grief 191 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: ever goes away. I don't have kids, so I cannot 192 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: speak from that perspective, But I don't know that you'll 193 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: ever not grieve that life. I think it will always 194 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: be part of you. I think anything we lose is 195 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 2: always part of us. But over time it develops into 196 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: different shape, form and memory, if you will. And I 197 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: believe that this new life that you're creating is going 198 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: to bring new memories that will start to make the 199 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: old ones easier. But I just don't believe it'll ever 200 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 2: go away, unfortunately, And there's a beautifulness to that that 201 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: you can always have those memories and remember a life 202 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: that you did have and a life that you created, 203 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: and you should be proud of because just because something 204 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: ended doesn't mean you shouldn't be proud of it. 205 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: You still did it, you still had. 206 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: That marriage, you still created beautiful children, and you're still 207 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: living a beautiful life after that. We often have this 208 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: finite reality when it comes to things ending, and there 209 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: are some situations that it should absolutely be the case, 210 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: as in the one just before this talking about an 211 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: abusive relationship that should be over and ended and no 212 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: repeating and going back to it. But just because something 213 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: ends doesn't mean it ends in our hearts and in 214 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: our lives. 215 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: And it doesn't have to. 216 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: Just because you decided to close the chapter doesn't mean 217 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: the whole story's over. And anybody could tell you a 218 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: million different ways of how you should handle that, and 219 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: I'm never going to tell anybody how to handle anything, 220 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: but I think believing and replaying those memories has actually 221 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: been official to you to continue to be proud of 222 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: yourself that not only did you create a beautiful life first, 223 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: but you also chose another path for you because you 224 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: thought it was going to be better. And I think 225 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: that's a great choice in so many ways. So there's 226 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: the two things can be true in that scenario. And 227 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: I often know that that saying is easier said than done. 228 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: So here's another one. 229 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 11: So in twenty nineteen, my husband got a spinal word injury, 230 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 11: three months after we had just got married and right 231 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 11: before COVID and seeing him through his rehab, I fell 232 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 11: him up with occupational therapy and how it changed his 233 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 11: life and gave him his inde pendance back, and seeing 234 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 11: how it affected everybody else around him and were patients 235 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 11: with him, And so I decided to make a complete 236 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 11: career change. And I was had a degree in marketing, 237 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 11: and I decided I'm going to switch and go to 238 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 11: the medical field and get into occupational therapy. And so 239 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 11: this year was the first year where it was I 240 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 11: had a spring, summer, fall semester, and I'm thirty and 241 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 11: going back to school full time, Like this has just 242 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 11: been wild to me. 243 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 5: I never thought that I would be able to do this. 244 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 7: When I finished my marketing degree, I was like, hell, yeah, I. 245 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 5: Get me out of school kind of thing. 246 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 11: So it's really funny that I am going back to 247 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 11: school full time and doing this. But I guess my 248 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 11: advice is that you can always change your mind, you 249 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 11: can always change your dream, and opportunities will come for 250 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 11: you and you just have to walk through that door. 251 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 11: And it's going to be hard and it's going to 252 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 11: be challenging, but you can get through it and. 253 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 12: You can survive this. 254 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: Can I just say, holy crap that you guys got 255 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: married and then this happened. I cannot imagine that experience 256 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: for both of you, and also incredible that you were 257 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: by his side through it all to work through those things, 258 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: and I bet he is incredibly appreciative of the support 259 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: that you provided him. But wow, what a crazy turn 260 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: of events to then see a profession and say, you 261 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: know what, I'm going to change what I'm doing and 262 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: walk through this door. Because much like she said, I 263 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: applaud anybody who can see a crack opening and say 264 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to go after that, because I know there's 265 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: times where I've seen cracks open and I haven't taken it, 266 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: or heck, even a window open and I won't jump 267 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: out of it to completely change the life. That to 268 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: go after something potentially even better is an accomplishment all 269 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: on its own, and it's so cool that you're doing it, 270 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: and it may feel crazy, and I think this world 271 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: is going to try and make you do anything to 272 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: stay comfortable, to stay in the position that you're always in, 273 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: because it's easier to be comfortable than it is to 274 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: be uncomfortable than it is to try something new. And 275 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: the fact that you're doing that all amits a whole 276 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: lot of things happening is wild and awesome, so dang inspirational, 277 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: and you probably didn't even expect that was gonna be 278 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 2: my response, but I think it's awesome. 279 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 13: The month of November was extremely hard. I got anxiety 280 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 13: and add symptoms that resurface that I haven't felt in 281 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 13: ten years since college, And after struggling for an entire month, 282 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 13: productivity decreasing, realize. 283 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 5: That I was doom scrolling and staring. 284 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 13: My staring at my computer screen at work without getting 285 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 13: any work done, finally decided to go get help for 286 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 13: the first time. I saw a psychiatrist for the first 287 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 13: time ever, started therapy, and started anxiety medicine for the 288 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 13: first time ever, and I'm honestly feeling much better and 289 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 13: shedded my shame in regards to getting that help, but 290 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 13: so happy that I did. 291 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 2: Okay, I want to give some snaps here because getting 292 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: help is awesome. I think if you ever feel the need, 293 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: there is a lot of shame associated with that from 294 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 2: a multitude of places, but there shouldn't be. Getting help 295 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: is you putting yourself first. And you put yourself first 296 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: to take care of you, and mental health is no joke, 297 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: and getting medication to support you to go through life 298 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 2: is incredibly important. 299 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: It's incredibly brave. 300 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: And I love that you shared this because I know 301 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people out there where getting help 302 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: could be shameful. 303 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 3: But I don't want you to feel shame. I want 304 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: you to be proud. 305 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: I want you to say I did that, wear that 306 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: badge of honor, because getting help means you're setting aside 307 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: your pride, your ego and saying I need to do 308 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: better for me, and you're showing up for yourself. There's 309 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: not a lot of people who can actually say they're 310 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: showing up for themselves. They actually put themselves on the 311 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: back burner. I'm one of them often and to say hey, no, 312 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: I need to set this aside and take this step 313 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: forward is incredible. 314 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 3: And I help more people do. 315 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: I hope in the new year we can have less 316 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: mental health issues, because it's clear that each year it 317 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: keeps getting worse and worse with financial issues, the economy, 318 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: the different things that people are experiencing, from job loss 319 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: to losing people. We are on a very difficult stage 320 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 2: with mental health and talking to someone unbiased, like a 321 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: therapist or a psychologist or whatever that may be, is 322 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: a brave and great thing to do and there should 323 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: be absolutely zero shame attached to that. 324 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 5: I'm Morgan, I'm Sherry. 325 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 14: Currently live in Tennessee, but moved just under three months 326 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 14: ago from Maryland. Diagnosed with stage four breast cancer about 327 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 14: fifteen months ago, and currently my struggle is because of 328 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 14: my treatment. I've gained a lot of weight and despite 329 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 14: a lot of effort, my treatment is preventing me from 330 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 14: losing weight. 331 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: So not feeling. 332 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 14: Myself, struggling with body image, really wanting to get back 333 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 14: into the dating world and New State. 334 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 5: Not knowing anybody. 335 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 14: Having cancer, meddling weight issues, it's been a lot. 336 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 5: Thanks for leaving me that for a second. Love your pod. 337 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: Cherry, I hope you know that you are beautiful and 338 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: I know that just in the way that you presented yourself. Gosh, 339 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: and it sounds like you need to give yourself some 340 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: grace because you've been through it and you can't fix 341 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 2: the world in one day, and you can't fix yourself 342 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: in one day. You are fighting an illness that shouldn't 343 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: exist in the fricking first place. Fuck cancer, But you're 344 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: taking care of yourself. You're doing treatments to help you 345 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: get better. 346 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: And I hate that it's. 347 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: Taking away your confidence and it's hurting you in ways 348 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: that you didn't imagine. Probably when this all happened, you 349 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: were just thinking about the diagnosis and how you're going 350 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: to survive, and now you're having to face the body 351 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: image struggles and the confidence and things that you just 352 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: probably were not anticipating. And I hope you know that 353 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: focusing on surviving and taking care of yourself and your 354 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: health right now is all that matters. 355 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: The dating will come, the. 356 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 2: Confidence will come back, The ways that you want to 357 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: take care of yourself when you've fully healed will still 358 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: be there. And I also help you feel supported by 359 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 2: whoever is around you and is reminding you that you're 360 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 2: beautiful and going through any of this, especially heck, if 361 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: you are trying to date and all of this props 362 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: to you because I know that's incredibly difficult, but more 363 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: so than that, hopefully it will help you weed few 364 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 2: even more red flyings that are out there, because hopefully, 365 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 2: if you do meet someone, they show you how incredibly awesome, 366 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: strong and supportive they are, and if not, kick come 367 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: to the curb really fast. But more than anything, I 368 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: want you to give yourself some grace because you're going 369 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: through a really tough time and moving in all kinds 370 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: of things that are happening at one time for you, 371 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: and sometimes it's okay to just survive. There will come 372 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 2: a time in your life when you will thrive and 373 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: you will heal and you will feel amazing. And that's 374 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: not going to be every day, and that's okay. There 375 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: are a lot of days where I often don't feel 376 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: great and I feel like, holy crap, what has happened? 377 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: And that's just on a normal day. I can't imagine 378 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 2: dealing with a fight that you're fighting right now and 379 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: trying to feel great about yourself. So I hope you 380 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: give yourself grace. I hope you find your sparkle again, 381 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: and hopefully you can also take some time for yourself 382 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: over the holidays and treat yourself to something, whether it's 383 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 2: to a dinner date or a spa or hack your favorite. 384 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 3: Guilty pleasure treat. 385 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: I just want you to give yourself grace and treat 386 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: yourself because I think that's what you deserve this holiday. 387 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 15: Okay, when it's hard for us right now is my 388 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 15: sweet mother in law. 389 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 5: Have a bring in your cup shirt, and. 390 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 15: She's in the hospital undersation and she's alive that they're 391 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 15: trying to get her brain to stop swelling and everything 392 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 15: to go down and. 393 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 5: Look normal, and. 394 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 15: We're just waiting and not know when when she's gonna 395 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 15: get better and when she's gonna. 396 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 5: Wake up, and it's just hard, like right now, and 397 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 5: not having her here for the holidays. That's our hardest things. 398 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 5: So please keep us in your parish. 399 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 16: Thank you. 400 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: Well, we absolutely are. 401 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 2: And one of the hardest things is to be in 402 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: a situation where you're not getting quick answers and you 403 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen, and the silence of 404 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: that is really deafening. Anytime I've had loved ones in 405 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: the hospital, it feels like I'm just waiting by the 406 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: phone for that. 407 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 3: Call or any call for that matter. 408 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: To know what's next or what's coming, and to be 409 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 2: there and witness it is even more difficult, and right 410 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: around the holidays when you just want to all be together, 411 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: and it gives you a lot of perspective. The hospital 412 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: visits will always bring perspective of how you just wish 413 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: she had time back, or you just wish you had 414 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: one more moment of this. 415 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: My heart's with you, guys, and I. 416 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 2: Hope that she is able to recover so great and 417 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: be back with you guys, and hopefully you can celebrate 418 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: a really late holiday, but we're thinking about you. 419 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 16: I think the hardest part of the holidays is learning 420 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 16: to navigate. 421 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 5: Them without your parents. It's a whole new normal. 422 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 16: That you're absolutely not used to, especially when you don't 423 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 16: have a lot of family around, or when you possibly 424 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 16: do have a lot of family around, but you are 425 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 16: not close with them, and it's absolutely a struggle. That's 426 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 16: a very hard thing to navigate through the holidays, regardless 427 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 16: of what holiday it is, and it's especially hard when 428 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 16: those holidays were your parents' favorite. So for anyone that's 429 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 16: dealing with that, whether it be. 430 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 4: A new normal or an old normal. 431 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 16: My heart absolutely goes out to you and just know 432 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 16: that it's a struggles for all of us. 433 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: I can't imagine the idea of even losing my parents 434 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: makes me tear up, so I cannot imagine what that 435 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: day will be like when they're no longer here. 436 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: And the grief I. 437 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: Hear in your voice is heartbreaking. And to face holiday 438 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 2: that they loved, that you probably spent together and did 439 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: all kinds of. 440 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 3: Wonderful things, that's hard. 441 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: And I wish there were magic words that I could 442 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: say and to make it all better and give you 443 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: a band aid to help the pain, but there isn't. 444 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: I have a few of these that are about grief, 445 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: so I'm gonna I'm gonna let them share, and then 446 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: I will give you CRIDs my perspective on grief. 447 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 5: Just the first. 448 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 17: Christmas since my dad passed away, and I'm having a 449 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 17: hard time. It's hard just to keep going on with 450 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 17: life as usual when it feels like my world is 451 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 17: standing still. 452 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 5: Hey Morgan, I am my name slogan. I live in Maryland. 453 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 18: Me and my wife had our first baby in January, 454 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 18: and my mother passed away on November ninth of this 455 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 18: year from non small cell lung cancer. 456 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: So that's been. 457 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 18: Tough to navigate, but just gonna keep pushing through. Appreciate 458 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 18: you guys and the Bobby Bunch Show. I listen to 459 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 18: you every day and thank you for what you do. 460 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 6: Hi. 461 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 5: My name is Nicole. 462 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 19: I lost my husband to brain cancer two years ago. 463 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 19: The Christmas season has become a bit more difficult because 464 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 19: of that reason. We celebrate with our friends and our family, 465 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 19: but that only illuminates that my family's not all together 466 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 19: and seeing all of their families together and the new 467 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 19: year just signifies like another year that he won't see. 468 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: There's a lot of grief messages that I received in 469 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: lieu of this podcast. 470 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 12: The loss of a friend three weeks after she was 471 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 12: diagnosed with cancer. We all feel lost when we miss her. 472 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: There's a few more of that I'll get into here 473 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: in a second, but I just want to address grief because. 474 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 3: Grief, to me is love. 475 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: And I think I saw a quote somewhere online. I 476 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: definitely know I didn't make this up, but grief is 477 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: love with nowhere to go. And I always thought that 478 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 2: was really pretty, because just because somebody's gone doesn't mean 479 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: you stop loving them, doesn't mean their story's over in 480 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: your life. Heck, it probably means that their story is 481 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: more so part of your life. Like I had mentioned earlier, 482 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: just because there's an ending doesn't mean the entire story 483 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: is closed. And how those people will carry on through 484 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: each of you that shared that, and how you're going 485 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: to share their stories as your life goes on, it's 486 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: really cool to think about because they get to live 487 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: on through you. 488 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 3: But man, I just. 489 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: My heart breaks for anyone who has to experience loss 490 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: on any level, because grief is hard and you'll get 491 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: hit with it at random parts of any day, and 492 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: so many of you are losing parents, and the idea 493 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: of that, even thinking about losing mine or thinking about 494 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: the loss of my grandparents, just. 495 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 3: It rattles in my brain. And for you guys to 496 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: have lost people so. 497 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: Near and dear to your heart while experiencing like the 498 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: guy who shared that they had just had a baby, 499 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: and it sounds based on that timeline she got to 500 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: meet your guys's first child, which is so beautiful. But 501 00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: I know hard do things can be true always, But 502 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: grief is just one of those prices we pay for 503 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 2: loving and showing up. And it's easy to look at 504 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: the other side of that and say, well, if I 505 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: didn't love and I didn't show up, then I don't 506 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: have to feel that pain one day. But I don't 507 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: know about you, guys. I think I'd feel the pain 508 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: a million times over to experience the love that I 509 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: get experience in my life even without those people still here. Dang, 510 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: I need a water break, my emotional sport water bottles 511 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: claim my name. So oh okay, I told you guys, 512 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: I'm an impath. So I feel the pain and I 513 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: feel the hurt and a lot of these and gosh, 514 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: there's a few more that address that, but also some 515 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: other things. 516 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 5: Morgan, thanks for asking. 517 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 20: It has been a rough season and not many people 518 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 20: want to hear about it or talk about it. I 519 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 20: lost my back friend that nearly thirty years in March. 520 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 5: She passed away from pancreatic cancer. 521 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 20: We raised our daughters together, who were also best friends. 522 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 20: So this holiday season has been difficult without her. We 523 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 20: walked through her cancer trial together the last two years. 524 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, there's that. Also, can I just say work, 525 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 5: I've been at. 526 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 20: Doing my job for over forty years now, and there's 527 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 20: just been a lot of changes with the computer and 528 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 20: a lot of changes basically, and I feel like everything 529 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 20: I've known for forty years I no longer know, so 530 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 20: that has been overwhelming as well, but we'll get through it. 531 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 5: Twenty twenty six will be another new. 532 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: Year, another loss that unspeakable I can't imagine. I know 533 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: that you guys are probably supporting her daughter, being that 534 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: your daughter is her best friend and she probably feels 535 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: like you're a second mom to her. So I hope 536 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 2: that friendship continues to be such an important part of 537 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 2: your guys's lives, because again, her memory is going to 538 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: live on through that. But I can't imagine that kind 539 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 2: of loss, and my heart goes out to you. The 540 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: work side of this is fair. You guys can share 541 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: audio message about anything that's bothering you, guys. I love 542 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: hearing from you guys, because this is real life. 543 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 3: Work is hard. 544 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you have the most perfect job 545 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 2: in the world or you people think you have the 546 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: best job in the world. 547 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: Work is hard. Work is work, and anybody who says 548 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 3: work isn't work is lying to you. 549 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: It takes time and effort, and it's draining, and we 550 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: don't get near enough breaks to feel things that are 551 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 2: going on through our lives often, which means We're balancing 552 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 2: eighty different plates. 553 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: All the time. 554 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 2: So work is very real, especially around the holidays. Everybody's 555 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 2: about to finally take a big break, and I feel 556 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: like it's the one time of year everybody resets. 557 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 3: We talk about New Year's. 558 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 2: Eve and New Year's and the new resolutions, but can 559 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: we talk about the break that we get at Christmas? 560 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 2: Everybody for the most part, and if anybody else doesn't 561 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: get one, I think we should just shut everything down. 562 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 3: The world should shut down for a week and we. 563 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 2: All just get a break from life and each other 564 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 2: and do whatever we want to do for that week, 565 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 2: and then we reopen. Everybody can breathe a big sigh 566 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 2: of relief because we got the break that we all deserved. 567 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 3: Let me just say that. So here's another one about work. 568 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 19: Hi Morgan. 569 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: Name's autumn on an emergency or nurse, and this is 570 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: the toughest season I would save for my life. 571 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 5: Especially during flu season. 572 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: Everybody's coming in sick, COVID's rising again, and there's a 573 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: new flu strand going around. Nobody's wanting to get vaccinated, 574 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: fair choice. We're short staffed, overworked, the usual. We're not 575 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: considered as professionals anymore to everyone's opinion. Yeah, it's just 576 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: very tiring, and yeah it makes my anxiety very high, 577 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: my depressions kicking in, and it's just very overwhelming. But 578 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: congratulations to you and a new boyfriend. I'm very happy 579 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: that you felt this body who can treasure you in 580 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: value your values. Thank you for everything that you do 581 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: your podcast. If it wasn't for your podcast, I would 582 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: not be able to get through the day. I enjoyed 583 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: listening to it. I hope you, your family, and your 584 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 1: boyfriend have a happy holiday and a good year. 585 00:36:59,520 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 5: Wife. 586 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 2: First of all, this felt like an actual voice momo 587 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 2: coming from one of my friends in a text message, 588 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: which was so sweet. 589 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 3: Thank you to the kind woman who. 590 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: Shared that, because there's a lot of effort that goes 591 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: into this podcast and hearing that it helps you and 592 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: it gets. 593 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 3: You through the day means a lot to me. So 594 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 3: thanks for listening. One. Two, I just want to. 595 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 2: Shout out all the people out there, the educators, those 596 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 2: that work in the medical field, nurses, teachers specifically. 597 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 3: Everybody has a role to play in our lives. 598 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: Everybody has a role that matters and an education that matters, 599 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 2: and we need teachers, we need nurses. We need people 600 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: to support us through every phase of our life, and 601 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 2: what you do matters. 602 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 3: The work you're doing matters. 603 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 2: I have two educators in my family, I have nurses 604 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 2: in my extended family, and I recognize you as very 605 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 2: important and very valuable. And I think the work that 606 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 2: you're doing is hard and the things that you guys 607 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 2: deal with is unimaginable, and. 608 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 5: Just as I. 609 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: Feel that every job that we have out there is 610 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 2: necessary right now, and there's things that change and develop 611 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 2: over time, but we're always going to need teachers and 612 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 2: nurses in some form or fashion, and there's so much 613 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: crazy noise happening on social media around them. 614 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 3: But just know that I appreciate you. 615 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 2: I appreciate the work that you're doing and the work 616 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: that went into you guys being able to do that work. 617 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 2: So I know it's a really rough time and I 618 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 2: know that you guys are in a really hard space, 619 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 2: but please know I appreciate you. I know there's a 620 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 2: whole lot of people that appreciate you, and I don't 621 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: want you to stop doing what you're doing, But take 622 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 2: a deep breath, take some time for yourself over the holidays, 623 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 2: and hopefully you can come back and be stronger than 624 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 2: ever to keep some are we in the ways that 625 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 2: feel meaningful for you in another work. 626 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 3: Capacity, we have a few of these. 627 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 5: So I was let go. 628 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 8: At the end of May, a month before moving to 629 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 8: a brand new place, hours from friends and family, and 630 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 8: it's been really hard. I've been looking for a job. 631 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 8: I've been trying to settle in a new place. But 632 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 8: that's hard to do when you're working retail part time 633 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,720 Speaker 8: with a variable schedule to try to make some money, 634 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 8: money that does not make ends meet. And when you 635 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 8: need a little help or talk to about it, people 636 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 8: tell you that you're not working hard enough, or you're 637 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 8: not doing enough, or you just need a job. As 638 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 8: if I'm not applying and interviewing and being told things 639 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 8: like great, you made it to the top ten. We 640 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 8: got a thousand applications in three days. And then you 641 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 8: don't make it to the final round, or you make 642 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 8: it to the final round and they choose a different 643 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 8: candidate because they've got a thousand to choose from. It's 644 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 8: really frustrating and been a tough season, which I hope 645 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 8: is coming. 646 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 5: To a close. 647 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 2: I hope for you too, that's coming to a close 648 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 2: because I'm gonna say this and people probably disagree, but 649 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 2: looking for a job is a job in itself. To 650 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 2: apply for jobs these days takes a whole lot of 651 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 2: work and a whole lot of effort. So as long 652 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: as you're applying and trying things, you are doing a lot. 653 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 3: You're trying a lot of things. 654 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 2: Heck, even if you're not applying and you're taking a 655 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 2: break because things went to crap and you're trying to 656 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 2: regroup and reset, you're also doing a lot. So I 657 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 2: hope you quiet out the noise, put some earmuffs on, 658 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 2: and take everything out of this picture, and know that 659 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 2: your new season is coming. This is just a bump 660 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 2: in your road, and there will come a time when 661 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 2: you look back in your life and you will have 662 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 2: gotten over it, and you did it because of how 663 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: strong you are, because of how much you push yourself 664 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 2: and the willpower that you do have. So quiet the 665 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: noise around you, because sometimes the people around us can 666 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: also be really detrimental to us when we're going through 667 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 2: a certain season. They're really helpful and they're necessary and important, 668 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 2: but sometimes it's also necessary and important to focus on 669 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: you and go into your own shell cocoon and focus 670 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 2: on what's the most important thing for you right now 671 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 2: in this moment. And I hope that season does come 672 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: to an end so you can start your new one 673 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: and it's incredible, and you kick ass at a new 674 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 2: job because you will and you'll find. 675 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 3: It, even if it's a small job to get to 676 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 3: a big job. 677 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 2: There's always seasons of this where we never know what 678 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 2: is just around the corner. And I think there is 679 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 2: more around your corner, because this isn't the ending half 680 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 2: the time, it's only the beginning. 681 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 21: After my mom thought rist cancer and one my husband 682 00:41:54,520 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 21: and I struggled with fertility miscarriages, still struggling, probably can't 683 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 21: have kids, and then lost my dad this summer, so 684 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 21: really struggling season with being grateful that my mom survived and. 685 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 5: With the loss of someone you loves and the hardships 686 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 5: that go along with fertility issues. 687 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 2: Oh man, all of those things that I can't personally 688 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 2: imagine and I've never walked through. But gosh, to be 689 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 2: able to celebrate your mom beating something while also losing 690 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 2: another parent and to be really wanting something to happen 691 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 2: and hoping that this is going to happen for you, guys, 692 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 2: while experiencing those two things. 693 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 3: Holy crap, I. 694 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 2: Simply couldn't put myself in your shoes even if I 695 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 2: wanted to. And I'm sorry that this is all happening 696 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 2: at the same time. When it rains, it pours something 697 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 2: to that effect, and. 698 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 3: Man it does. 699 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 2: Sometimes you're dealt with a hurricane instead of a tornado, 700 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 2: or a light rain. 701 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 3: Instead of a tsunami. 702 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 2: But I'm sorry that yours seems to have been a 703 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 2: tsunami for the last several months. And I hope that 704 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 2: one you are able to find some love and light 705 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 2: in the memories of your dad and also hopefully receive 706 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 2: some good news soon or a new door opening in 707 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 2: some way. If it isn't the path that you guys 708 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 2: want to be on, but maybe it's an even better one. 709 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 2: So my heart goes out to you. I can't imagine 710 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 2: balancing all of those things at one time. 711 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 22: I H's Sap from Apple Belli, California. It's been a 712 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 22: rough year, some health issues, some financial issues. Being fifty 713 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 22: six and single, I'm not sure how to navigate this. 714 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 22: I do have two great kids and four amazing grandkids, 715 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 22: so that keeps me going, and some great friends, but 716 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 22: I would really like to figure out life and be 717 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 22: happy on my own. 718 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 5: With myself. So hopefully this helps. 719 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: I do hope you're able to find the happiness within 720 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 2: yourself because it's a really fun season when you can 721 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 2: hit that. I heard the hurt in your voice of 722 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 2: fifty two in single. 723 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 3: I hope you know. 724 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 2: That love doesn't have an age limit. That's going to 725 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 2: come at any point in time in your life when 726 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 2: it's supposed to happen. Oh, I know, I can't believe 727 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 2: I'm saying that, but it will, and you're more than 728 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 2: capable of it. 729 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,240 Speaker 3: Because here's the thing. This is what I always told myself. 730 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 2: I exist, and I have love in my heart, and 731 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 2: I have so much love to give. And if I exist, 732 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 2: then someone else out there exists to give me that 733 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 2: same thing in return. And it's really hard often to 734 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 2: see that. It's hard to see through all the mud 735 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 2: and things that you've gone through to hope that there's 736 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 2: a light at the end of that tunnel. But there 737 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 2: always is, and unfortunately sometimes it takes a really long 738 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 2: time to get to that light, but you always will. 739 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 2: Maybe it's more of a lighthouse than a shining studio light, 740 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 2: but you will, and it will happen, and I think 741 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 2: it's gonna be beautiful when it does, and it's gonna 742 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 2: be a new season for you because you're gonna be 743 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,280 Speaker 2: like fifty two and married and it's gonna be awesome, 744 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 2: and you're deserving of that. You're deserving to find love 745 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 2: as many times as you want to. You're deserving to 746 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 2: never get married again if you don't want to, if 747 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 2: you want to be fifty two and single, maybe you're 748 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 2: single and you're like, heck, yeah, I really like this life. 749 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 3: Never again do I want to be married? 750 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 2: And whatever you choose, I hope you know that it's 751 00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 2: gonna be an awesome decision either way. But I want 752 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 2: to also recognize that I know how hard a single 753 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 2: season is, especially being a single mom and having beautiful kids, 754 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: and also knowing you have history in certain scenarios, and 755 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 2: all of those things are hard and they're difficult all 756 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 2: on their own. 757 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 3: So I hope you're another one. 758 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 2: Where gosh, I hope everybody here is giving themselves a 759 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 2: lot of grace and understanding because the new season will 760 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 2: come and I think it's going to be pretty awesome 761 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 2: for you. Michelle and Apple Valley. 762 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 23: I would say that one of the toughest parts about 763 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 23: the season is newly dating someone else, or you've been 764 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 23: with someone for a year and it's time to start 765 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 23: sharing holidays. 766 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 6: Which holidays do you spend with which family? 767 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 4: And you want to make sure you do it. 768 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 8: When you choose the family to spend say, Christmas with, 769 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 8: you want to do it in. 770 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 5: A way that doesn't hurt the other family. And I'm 771 00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 5: finding that this is. 772 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 23: Harder than I thought it would be to make sure 773 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 23: that no feelings are hurt. 774 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 3: I'm currently going through this. 775 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 2: It's so much fun to get to have new people 776 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 2: in your life and more people to spend holidays with. 777 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 3: It's almost a blessing. 778 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 2: At the same time, it's also difficult where you're trying 779 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 2: to balance everybody's feelings. You're trying to not hurt anybody's 780 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 2: You're trying to make sure you're nurturing relationships while also 781 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 2: keeping your family and those relationships that you've had for 782 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 2: decades happy. And oftentimes people do get hurt in the 783 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 2: mixture of changes because it's bound to happen. You can't 784 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 2: make everybody happy. You can only do all the things 785 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,959 Speaker 2: that you can do right, and there's only enough time 786 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,959 Speaker 2: in so many days, but I think there's also an. 787 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 3: Excitement to it where you get to add. 788 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 2: New people into your life and find new traditions and 789 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 2: find new things that you never knew existed. 790 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 3: But this is one of those scenarios where it can also. 791 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 2: Be equally as hard if you have family who has 792 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,919 Speaker 2: a lot of opinions and has a lot to say 793 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 2: and they want things done a certain way, and that 794 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 2: challenge can be really tough, especially on partnerships. So one 795 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 2: of the things that I know I keep doing with 796 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,760 Speaker 2: my boyfriend is checking in and saying, how are you feeling, 797 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 2: give me your actual feelings about this. 798 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 3: Tell me what you think I need to know where 799 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 3: you stand. 800 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 2: And it's checking in with each other because oftentimes our 801 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 2: two opinions could get lost in that mix of deciding 802 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 2: what's best and how we're going to go this way 803 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 2: or that way where we're going to spend each holiday. 804 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of conversations that him and I 805 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 2: have had of just trying to make sure him and 806 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 2: I are both happy and are both getting what we 807 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 2: want and how do we do that? 808 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 3: What does that look like? 809 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 2: So really open honest conversations, and that is on both 810 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 2: partners to share all their honest feelings and thoughts when 811 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 2: I know it's hard. But it's also on both partners 812 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,399 Speaker 2: to own situations too, right, It's on both of them 813 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 2: to not only be able to share their real feelings 814 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 2: but also help navigate their families. 815 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 3: They have to show up and say. 816 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 2: Hey, we're going to do this, and you're owning that 817 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 2: as a partnership, not just saying oh, well, my husband 818 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 2: wants to do this, or well him saying my wife 819 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 2: wants to do this. 820 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 3: It's owning that. 821 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 2: You're a team and working through that together. And we're 822 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 2: very much in the real thick of that right now 823 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,240 Speaker 2: as I'm doing this podcast episode. 824 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 3: So communication is such a big part of that, but 825 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 3: also just how cool that we. 826 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,399 Speaker 2: Get new traditions and new memories and things that never 827 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 2: in my wild the dreams did I see happening in 828 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 2: my life. 829 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,320 Speaker 3: And here is our last entry for the podcast. 830 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 5: Hi, this is Jennifer in Oklahoma City. 831 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 24: And for me, I am at the age where I 832 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 24: still have children. I have my youngest is a freshman 833 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 24: or actually she's a sophomore in college and she's out 834 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 24: of state, so I'm trying to help her along. But 835 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 24: then I also have of aging parents who have reached 836 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 24: the age where they need a little bit of help too, 837 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 24: So I'm caught between my kids and my parents. And 838 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 24: I will say this, aging parents are much harder to 839 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 24: raise than even teenagers. But I just am trying to 840 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 24: find other people that are in that phase of life 841 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 24: and build that support. I'm really throwing myself into the 842 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 24: holidays because it's my favorite time of year and I'm 843 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 24: lucky that I get to rely on my faith. 844 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 5: And I'm grateful. 845 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 24: Morgan that you asked us to share, because I think 846 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 24: that's really what it's about. It's connecting to others and 847 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 24: finding out that you are not alone can be incredibly powerful. 848 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 24: So as always, I'm grateful for you. I'm grateful for 849 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 24: your podcast, and I just wish you the merriest of 850 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,479 Speaker 24: Christmases and to all of your listeners as well. 851 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 2: This is a beautiful one to end on for a 852 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 2: lot of ways. One because this is someone who is 853 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,240 Speaker 2: navigating multiple different changes in their life, but who's trying 854 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 2: to do it with support in a community and find 855 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,479 Speaker 2: friends while there is a lot of things happening in life, 856 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 2: and I think that's one of the hardest things of life. 857 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 2: It's one of the lessons that I've learned this year 858 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 2: is that when you go through life changes, and when 859 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 2: people in your life go through life changes, oftentimes friendships 860 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 2: end and relationships change, and it's hard. 861 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 3: It's hard. It's really difficult to to. 862 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 2: You know, as I get older and I see my 863 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 2: parents getting older and encouraging them to take care of 864 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 2: themselves in certain ways and do this and do that, 865 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,240 Speaker 2: while also trying to just let them live their lives 866 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 2: how they want to, and wanting to talk to my 867 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 2: grandma about doing things so she's around forever. And I 868 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 2: think it's hard when you're in a season of life 869 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 2: where everything just feels up in the air and not 870 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 2: anything is settled, and that very much feels like this 871 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,359 Speaker 2: situation to me, and I could be completely wrong, but 872 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 2: in trying to find friends who can relate to that right, 873 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 2: because we like to have friendships that connect to where 874 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 2: we're at in our stage of life. 875 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 3: It's often why we see. 876 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,839 Speaker 2: People who are single and all single together and then 877 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 2: you get in a relationship and hopefully those friendships stay. 878 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,280 Speaker 2: That's always the goal, but oftentimes they don't because people 879 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 2: get into relationships and others don't, and sometimes people have kids, 880 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 2: or they get married, or they go through grief, or 881 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 2: they move away, and our situation changes, which makes our 882 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,879 Speaker 2: lives a lot harder in that experience because we don't 883 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,399 Speaker 2: have the same support system that. 884 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 3: We once had. 885 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 2: So finding community alone is really tough and finding people 886 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 2: who can relate. So I'm hoping that this person is 887 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 2: able to find that and maybe it connects with some 888 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 2: of you guys, and maybe I can connect you guys 889 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 2: on the internet, because internet friends are also awesome, especially 890 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 2: in a season of life that you're already pulled in 891 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 2: so many which ways, connecting in person is often difficult. 892 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 2: So that is the beauty of social media, the good 893 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 2: side of social media. And I just want to say 894 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 2: that I'm so eternally grateful to everyone who shared their story, 895 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 2: whether it was in messages or in these audio messages 896 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 2: that were left. 897 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 3: I think it's so cool that I've. 898 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 2: Created a community here where we can all share our 899 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 2: hardest things and hope that it connects with somebody else, 900 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 2: because we deserve to feel seen and heard. And again, 901 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 2: it was the entire point of doing this, of creating 902 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 2: this podcast was I often see so many things on 903 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 2: the Internet about trying to take away our attention or 904 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 2: trying to focus on things that aren't hard. 905 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 3: Or working on ourselves. 906 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,720 Speaker 2: But I love community, I love connecting, I love hearing 907 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 2: people's stories, and this alone shows us right when you 908 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 2: were out doing things for the holidays and shopping and 909 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 2: in the madness and chaos of the holidays, I hope 910 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 2: you see people from more. 911 00:53:59,360 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 3: Than faced back. 912 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 2: I hope you see them as someone who could be 913 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 2: going through X, Y and Z, as someone who could 914 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 2: be having the best year of their life while also 915 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,839 Speaker 2: somebody else having the worst year of their life. This 916 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 2: holiday is meant to remind us to give grace to 917 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 2: each other and have patience and be kind. And hearing 918 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 2: all of those messages reminds me that I do not 919 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 2: know a single thing that's happening in any one person's 920 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 2: life on any given day, and it's my job and 921 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 2: my responsibility to show up. 922 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,800 Speaker 3: And be kind and smile and. 923 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 2: Because I can, because I'm in the season of my 924 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 2: life where even though it's been hard and there's been 925 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,760 Speaker 2: hard moments while also good moments, it is my responsibility 926 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 2: as a person in this world to show up and 927 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 2: share love where and when I can. So hope we 928 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 2: can all own that and all show up in different ways, 929 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 2: and if this is not your season to show up, 930 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 2: that's perfectly fine. I hope you have people like me 931 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 2: that you'll run into where you get to experience the 932 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 2: love and the kindness of someone. 933 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 3: And thank you a million times over for sharing. 934 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 2: I hope everybody's holiday is everything that they need it 935 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 2: to be. And I hope that this next year brings 936 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 2: a lot of joy for a lot of you, and 937 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 2: hopefully new memories, new seasons, new chapters, and maybe for 938 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 2: some of you, the beginning of a story, and maybe 939 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 2: some of you the ending of a story, whatever it 940 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 2: may be. I'm really happy that you're here and you 941 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 2: share things with me, and I am eternally grateful for 942 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 2: all of you guys. Merry Christmas, happy Holidays, and happy 943 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 2: almost twenty twenty six.