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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. It's Tuesday here on

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Speaker 2: The Herd.

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Speaker 3: Jason McIntyre back in for Colin Cowherd, who's on a vacation,

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Speaker 3: and boy is.

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Speaker 2: He missing a lot. Lakers win again. Kevin Durant is horrific.

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Speaker 3: We got the World Baseball Classic title game tonight, and

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Speaker 3: oh my.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, an NFL trade.

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Speaker 3: Just went down, shaking up the AFC even more. Rachel Nichols,

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Speaker 3: we got a great show today. Oh don't you love

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Speaker 3: it when a trade happens like great before the show.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is just a great week on the calendar,

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Speaker 4: right on the sports calendar. Everything's happening, and even the

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Speaker 4: NFL not in season chimes in.

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Speaker 2: Yes, with this deal.

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Speaker 3: We we got mock drafts dropping that. I don't like

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Speaker 3: it all, but it's not about the mock draft er.

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Speaker 3: It's about the players. We'll get to that later in

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Speaker 3: the show, but we got to start with the NFL trade.

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Speaker 3: They're calling this a blockbuster. I don't know that I

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Speaker 3: would go there. The Broncos and Dolphins make a seismic trade.

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Speaker 2: You got Jalen Waddle going from Miami to.

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Speaker 3: Denver, Waddle and a fourth in exchange, in exchange for

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Speaker 3: a first, third, and fourth. There it is on the screen,

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Speaker 3: So the Miami Dolphins will now have the thirtieth pick

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Speaker 3: in the first round, thirtieth overall, and a third and

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Speaker 2: Miami pretty clearly signaling what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: So a long time ago, somebody smart told me, Jay,

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Speaker 3: don't believe people when they say something.

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Speaker 2: Believe people when they do something.

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Speaker 3: Somebody comes out and says, oh, I want to start

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Speaker 3: a business, and they're playing video games around the clock. Right.

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Speaker 3: Somebody says I want to write a screenplay and they're

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Speaker 3: out boozing it up three nights a week at bars.

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Speaker 2: Okay, believe their actions. For the last month in chains,

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Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins have been said, we're not tanking. No,

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Speaker 2: we're not tanking. That's not a thing we do.

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Speaker 3: We just got rid of Tyreek Hill and Bradley Chubb

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Speaker 3: so we could clean up our cap. And then the

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Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins went out and said, we're gonna go get

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Speaker 3: Malik Willis. See, that's not what tanking teams do. We've

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Speaker 3: got maybe our franchise quarterback. And then now five minutes later,

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Speaker 3: here come the Dolphins trading one of their three good players. Guys,

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Speaker 3: I'm not even exaggerating. The Miami Dolphins roster is horrible.

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Speaker 2: Did I say horrible? Horrific?

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Speaker 3: It's terrible. It's right down there with the Jets. And

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Speaker 3: it's very clear. The signal is out. Miami is tanking.

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Speaker 3: I know you don't want to hear it tanking for

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Speaker 3: the NBA. No, the Miami Dolphins have a clear vision.

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Speaker 3: We need to clear up our cap, clean it all out.

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Speaker 3: Let's get rid of the old players from the old regime,

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Speaker 3: and let's target the twenty twenty seven draft.

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Speaker 2: They are loading up.

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Speaker 3: I saw they have four third round picks, picks for

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Speaker 3: next year's draft. Everybody knows next year's draft is the

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Speaker 3: one with quarterbacks. Okay, Arch Banning would be the big prize.

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Speaker 3: Everybody would love him. My Jets would love him.

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Speaker 2: They are also in full on tank vote. I mean

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Speaker 3: Seriously, And if you don't want to Arch Banning, find

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Speaker 2: You can just get the guy who comes out of.

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Speaker 3: Nowhere and becomes the number one pick, like Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 2: Or cam Ward or Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 3: None of those guys a year out were considered the

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Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins are tanking and looking to the future. Milike Willis,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he has some buyer's remorse on accepting that contract. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: the millions of dollars will be great, but it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a rough season ahead for Miami. Now, the other

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Speaker 3: gotta love this trade if you're a Broncos fan.

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Speaker 2: They're doing cart in altitude right now. I mean, Sean

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Speaker 3: A great weapon in Jalen Waddle, who fits in that

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Speaker 2: I know he hasn't been an all pro.

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Speaker 3: fits seamlessly alongside Courtland Sutton, who's the big body, contested guy.

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Speaker 2: Wattle you see, is great over the middle, got the speed.

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Speaker 3: Pat Bryant, who looks like a player. They drafted him

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Speaker 3: maybe move off of Marvin Mims, see what you can

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Speaker 3: Ingram Denver. The arrow is clearly pointing up. You've got

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Speaker 3: the quarterback on the rookie deal, and the move is

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Speaker 3: fortify the roster. Broncos fans were a little upset that

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Speaker 3: they didn't do more yet in the offseason, kind of

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Speaker 3: resigning their guys no big splashes.

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Speaker 2: This qualifies as a splash.

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Speaker 3: I do wonder, Listen, the trade just broke thirty minutes ago,

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Speaker 3: so we don't know the details. But is it possible

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Speaker 3: that the Broncos looked at the draft analyzed guys from

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Speaker 3: anybody plug and play that's at the Jalen Waddle level.

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Speaker 3: This is a season pro he comes in. Yet listen,

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton's gonna unlock some of his best stuff the.

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Speaker 2: Same way Mike McDaniel did.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a great trade for the Broncos,

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Speaker 3: and I will add, folks, you look around the AFC,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of uncertainty. I mean, hell, the Bills

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Speaker 2: They just dumped their coaches. What's that reboot gonna be?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahoons is coming off a major injury, and I

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Speaker 3: know they're saying all the right things. Oh, Mahomes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he'll be ready for the opener. Okay, well you can

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Speaker 3: say that, but again, what are your actions. They just

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Speaker 3: went and traded for Justin Fields, who I probably would

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Speaker 2: I know the league wouldn't love that.

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Speaker 3: They love Mahomes back in the saddle, but there's uncertainty

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Speaker 2: They don't have a secondary. I mean, they just.

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Speaker 3: Lost their top two quarterbacks. So we're looking at Chiefs down,

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Speaker 3: Uncertainty that rains there too, Jacksonville, are they gonna duplicate

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Speaker 3: So I think this is a home run for the

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Speaker 3: Denver Broncos. Just an outstanding move. Sean Payton and company

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Speaker 3: in Denver have done a phenomenal job pivoting from Russell

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Speaker 2: Number one seed in.

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Speaker 3: The AFC AFC Championship Game, and my guess I haven't

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Speaker 3: seen an update in the odds. I think Denver probably

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Speaker 3: is your favorite in the AFC heading into next season.

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Speaker 3: So great trade for the Broncos. Miami Dolphins fans, as

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Speaker 3: they like to say on social media, enjoy the projects.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a rough year for the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's pivot to last night's huge game in

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Speaker 3: the NBA, and yes I'm talking about the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: I had an option here, folks.

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Speaker 3: Do we start positive with the Lakers, or do I

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Speaker 3: go after my guy Kevin Durant for not a great

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Speaker 3: game and some bad troubling signs in Houston. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: elect to go positive with the Lakers because JJ Reddick

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Speaker 3: is really unlocking some incredible stuff with this Lakers team.

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Speaker 2: They're one of the hottest teams in the league.

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Speaker 3: Okay, nine wins in their last ten games, six in

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Speaker 3: last night. And guess who was doing it all? Lebron James, Hey, Lebron,

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Speaker 3: I need you to pull back a little bit on offense.

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Speaker 2: Pick your spots. What does Lebron do? Pulls back?

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Speaker 3: Picks his spots? Lebron a Nenedy more defense. Lebron was

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Speaker 3: great defensively last night, passing. Lebron's doing it all. JJ

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Speaker 3: Reddick has been magnificent. He's not gonna win Coach of

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Speaker 3: after the game, Reddick talked about Lebron's new role with

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Speaker 2: Listen to this Lebron in particular.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's one of the things we talked about

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Speaker 5: last week is did you just continue to be the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dynamic is the perfect word. So the offense struggled

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Speaker 3: And this is where Reddick comes in. And I know

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Speaker 3: He starts blitzing and doubling Kevin Durant as he comes

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Speaker 3: what's going on in Houston.

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Speaker 2: But Durant wilted, Folks.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen a superstar, top fifteen player in NBA

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Speaker 3: And back because he stepped on the line. Kevin Durant

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Speaker 3: to melt down when Austin Reeves in the third quarter

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Speaker 3: And there he is stepping a I mean, Durant was

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Speaker 3: totally rattled by everything, Reddick. It was a masterful performance.

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Speaker 3: And I know, Jay Mack, why are you glazing the

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Speaker 3: Lakers again? Come on, man, stop they're not contenders, folks. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you want me to do. You

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Speaker 3: games against good teams, they beat the Knicks, they beat

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Speaker 3: respective conferences. And I mean, listen the Marcus Smart move.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many of you guys were watching

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Speaker 3: Today, you could tell them fired up, NFL trade Lakers

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Speaker 4: But just the diversity it's going to bring to the

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Speaker 3: Year on The Herd, Kevin Durant melted down last night,

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Speaker 3: Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire

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Speaker 3: you get your podcasts. All right, our next guest is

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Speaker 2: Folks.

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Speaker 3: You don't realize how big of a deal this is.

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Speaker 3: My wife was out to dinner with some ladies and

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Speaker 3: It's Matt Liinert. And I was like, oh, I know him.

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Speaker 3: We're friends. My husband plays basketball with him.

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Speaker 3: So let's bring on Matt Liinert, the USC football legend,

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Speaker 7: Buddy, Well, first of all, thanks for the intro. I

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Speaker 7: Today, both basketball champions, the Gray Foxes. Two out of

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Speaker 7: once again in the Bay Club here in the South Bay.

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Speaker 7: I do apologize for not making it last night. I

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the real story, and that's obviously,

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Speaker 2: On your podcast. So you've got a podcast with Jerry

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Speaker 3: It's called Throwbacks, and you talked about Jersey retirements.

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Speaker 3: So and you're not on with the current nil era.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he'd want to change his number,

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Speaker 7: But it's an important number and it represents what we

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Speaker 7: I'm proud of those teams that I was a part

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Speaker 7: of six four six five two twenty. He can run,

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Speaker 7: he's got a really good arm, he can make all

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Speaker 7: the throws. I think there's one one trait in the NFL,

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Speaker 7: like you have to be accurate. You have to be

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Speaker 7: insane accurate. I don't care if you have an absolute

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Speaker 7: cannon or you have.

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Speaker 2: An average arm. You have to be able to fit

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Speaker 2: the ball wherever you need it. He can do that.

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Speaker 7: Also from a mental standpoint, I just think he understands

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Speaker 7: and can see the game mentally, which is another big part.

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Speaker 7: I think if you can understand defenses, and you can

446
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Speaker 7: digest and you can learn an offense in system and

447
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Speaker 7: then learn how to what a defense is going to

448
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Speaker 7: do to you and all of these things and play

449
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Speaker 7: at that level, I think that's what stands out to him.

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Speaker 7: You know, he's probably going to go to the Raiders.

451
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Speaker 7: Obviously they don't have a great rothster. I think they

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Speaker 7: definitely improved over free agency. I love Clint Kubiak. A

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Speaker 7: quick story here. You know, I played for Gary Kubiak

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Speaker 7: in Houston, and I've always said this, like that offense

455
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Speaker 7: is is the Shanahan offense. It's that kind of tree,

456
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Speaker 7: the McVeigh, all of those where you can kind of

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Speaker 7: plug and play quarterbacks. So I'm actually really excited to

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Speaker 7: see Fernando if he does right to go to play

459
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Speaker 7: in that system where they just revive Sam Darnold right

460
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Speaker 7: up in Seattle. Go in that system and try and

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Speaker 7: get the best out of Fernando. It's just such a

462
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Speaker 7: quarterback friendly offense and Clint. Clint was gosh, twenty years

463
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Speaker 7: old running around at the Texans facility when I was there,

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Speaker 7: you know, So I'm excited that for that marriage.

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Speaker 2: I think Fernanda is going to be a really good pro.

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Speaker 3: Simpson everybody's divided on mel Kiper had him first round.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah did not. I don't know, have you seen

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Speaker 2: enough of him, the Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback who really struggled the last time we saw him

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Speaker 3: against Indiana.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think there's a couple of games

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Speaker 7: down the stretch there where I would just say this,

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Speaker 7: the receivers underperformed this year.

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Speaker 2: For them. They had virtually no running game.

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Speaker 7: I mean they couldn't run the football, and you're playing

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Speaker 7: in the SEC. There's a lot of pressure. And we

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Speaker 7: said it on Big New every week, like whenever we

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Speaker 7: talked about them. It's like, this dude's got so much

479
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Speaker 7: pressure on him to single handily will this team to wins.

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Speaker 2: And that's what he was able to do.

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Speaker 7: In the SEC when you're playing against great defenses and

482
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Speaker 7: really good football team.

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Speaker 2: So you know, he's not the biggest guy.

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Speaker 7: I remember meeting him out of the lead eleven when

485
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Speaker 7: he was there in our neck of the Woods back

486
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Speaker 7: in the day. I love his demeanor, I love his leadership.

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Speaker 7: He's a ballplayer, he loves football. He's not the biggest guy,

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Speaker 7: but I'll tell you what, Like he can make some

489
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Speaker 7: throws that are like NFL throws and windows that are

490
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Speaker 7: NFL throws. So he's an interesting one because he's not

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Speaker 7: gonna jump out with all the intangibles and the physical

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Speaker 7: and all that kind of stuff. But you turn on

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Speaker 7: the tape, there's a lot of good stuff there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the great Matt Liner.

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Speaker 3: Check out his Throwbacks podcast. Thanks a lot, Matt, Enjoy

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Speaker 3: Enjoy the summer.

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 6: and Noone Eastern not a em Pacific on Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: All right, let's welcome in Albert Breer Monday Morning Quarterback,

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Speaker 3: go back to curtain.

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Speaker 2: So I've known Breer for a long time.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and every August, you know, training camps happen and

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Speaker 3: everybody has theirs in California.

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Speaker 2: So Breer comes out and I'll get this random text, Hey, Jmac,

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Speaker 2: are you around?

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Speaker 3: You want to you wanna go out and start boozing

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Speaker 3: it up because the South Bay is a party zone

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Speaker 3: in August, so I get to see a breer hang

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Speaker 3: out with him.

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Speaker 2: He knows everybody and everything.

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Speaker 3: Albert, listen, I'm sure you didn't know about this Max

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Speaker 3: Crosby podcast. Some of the details he revealed about the

514
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Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens, like, it doesn't seem like they were.

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Speaker 2: Buttoned up, a little out of character.

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Speaker 3: I don't know your thoughts on what Crosby revealed about

517
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Speaker 3: the trade that was recanted.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I'm a huge fan of Manhattan Beach.

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Speaker 5: No matter how old I get, I'll always love going there,

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Speaker 5: So I'm always going to be in your neighborhood at

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Speaker 5: some point during the year. Yeah, I mean I think

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Speaker 5: that there's there's definitely some moving parts here in the

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Speaker 5: way that this all went down.

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Speaker 2: The timeline's interesting.

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Speaker 5: You know, I've detailed this a couple of different places.

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Speaker 2: I'll detail it for you.

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Speaker 5: You know, the deal goes down on Friday, and my

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Speaker 5: first big question was why wasn't he.

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Speaker 2: On a plane to go get his physical that night.

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Speaker 5: Well, the reality is he had his party, an anniversary

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Speaker 5: party for his sobriety, which was Saturday night. The Ravens said,

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Speaker 5: go take care of that will fly you up Friday

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Speaker 5: or Monday morning, and so they fly Monday morning. Obviously

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Speaker 5: there's the time difference, so he gets in there early

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Speaker 5: evening on Monday, goes in first thing on Tuesday, you know.

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Speaker 2: And then I think that's.

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Speaker 5: Where like the dispute over how all this happened, where

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Speaker 5: all this happened, how all this came together comes And

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Speaker 5: you know, I think on one side, the Ravens would

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Speaker 5: tell you.

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Speaker 2: That there there was an issue with the knee.

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Speaker 5: That brought into question is longevity, and like, if you

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Speaker 5: only think that he's got a couple more years left,

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Speaker 5: you'd be really hesitant to give up two first round picks.

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Speaker 5: The thing is, at the same time, the market was

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Speaker 5: falling out on Trey Hendrickson, and I think Hendrickson went

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Speaker 5: into free agency hoping for a deal in the range

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Speaker 5: of thirty five million, and at that point the bidding

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Speaker 5: on Hendrickson was between twenty five and twenty seven. That's

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Speaker 5: a significant draw from maybe where people had expected it

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Speaker 5: to be, or at least where Hendrickson had hoped it

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Speaker 5: would be. And so, you know, then the question becomes

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Speaker 5: were the Ravens looking at it, looking at the medicals

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Speaker 5: and saying to themselves, would we rather have Crosby knowing

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Speaker 5: what his physical state is, now, give up the two

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Speaker 5: first round picks, pay him.

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Speaker 2: Thirty million dollars a year, or go.

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Speaker 5: Get Trey Hendrickson, give up no picks, and then you know,

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Speaker 5: pay him twenty eight million a year. And I think

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Speaker 5: the fact that the timelines for the two things match

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Speaker 5: up that way, I think has led to a lot

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Speaker 5: of people raising eyebrows on the whole process and how

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Speaker 5: it all went down across the NFL.

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Speaker 3: The fact that Crosby didn't meet with DaCosta initially and

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Speaker 3: Jesse Minter, who's barely been a head coach in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: it's like less than two months, and his first order

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Speaker 3: of business is to say, Eh, the MRI didn't look great.

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Speaker 3: Bro Like, it just feels like that's not very typical Ravens.

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Speaker 5: You're right, and I think like, if you've ever been

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Speaker 5: to the Ravens facility, this is what was like eye

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Speaker 5: opening for me. If you've been to the Ravens facility,

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Speaker 5: they call that place the Castle, and it's called the

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Speaker 5: Castle for a reason. It's like high end and just

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Speaker 5: about every way it's not new standards anymore. It's been

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Speaker 5: there for over twenty years, but it's constantly updated. They're

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Speaker 5: always ahead of the curve on things like analytics and

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Speaker 5: sports science and player performance and all this different stuff,

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Speaker 5: and so they've always been seen as this first class

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Speaker 5: operation that's really forward thinking. And then you hear this

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Speaker 5: story from Max Crosby about how he had to fly

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Speaker 5: into DC and then he's in traffic for two hours

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Speaker 5: trying to get to Baltimore, and then he doesn't meet

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Speaker 5: with the new coach or the general manager until hours

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Speaker 5: into his visit. And I could certainly see where we'll

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Speaker 5: get the attention of other people. So, you know, the Ravens,

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Speaker 5: like have for a long long time, had a reputation

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Speaker 5: for being one of the first class organizations in the

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Speaker 5: entire sport, and a story like this, you know, obviously

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Speaker 5: does some damage to that. And so I think that

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Speaker 5: that's the damage the Ravens take on as a result,

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Speaker 5: sort of the fallout for them.

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Speaker 2: Coming out of this whole thing.

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Speaker 3: All right, I've finished The Ravens, a true story. My

594
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Speaker 3: brother lives in that all his friends are Ravens fans.

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Speaker 3: They don't like when I ask questions like this, but

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Speaker 3: this Lamar Jackson contract. We know the restructure, you know deal,

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Speaker 3: but what he wants a new deal and they lose Linderbaum,

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Speaker 3: did they get Crosby? And then they're like, oh, we

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Speaker 3: got Hendrickson on the cheap? How much issue is this

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson new contract causing them?

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Speaker 5: It's definitely, I think, definitely something to consider. And you know,

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Speaker 5: it's interesting JMC if you look at Lamar's history, the

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Speaker 5: years he's missed games due to injury have been the ones.

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Speaker 2: Where he was in a contract dispute. And you look

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Speaker 2: at it.

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Speaker 5: Eighteen nineteen twenty, great start to his career, twenty one,

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Speaker 5: he's first eligible for a contract, doesn't get one, MISSUS games,

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Speaker 5: twenty two contract issue, lingers MISSUS games, and then last

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Speaker 5: year they talked about extending him before last year.

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Speaker 2: Last year he winds up missing games.

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Speaker 5: So you so, I do think that there's that part

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Speaker 5: of it, And I think it's complicated. This is all

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Speaker 5: complicated by his play style. You know, is are the

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Speaker 5: Ravens all in with him? Are the ravensn gonna see

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Speaker 5: this through with him? Those sorts of questions can crop

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Speaker 5: up with a with a player who plays that position

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Speaker 5: the way that that Lamar plays it, and so, you know,

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Speaker 5: I think what we've seen in the past is that

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Speaker 5: he's maybe a little bit more conservative with with with

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Speaker 5: his injuries when he's in the middle of a contract dispute.

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Speaker 5: So I think that's something that the Ravens have to

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Speaker 5: factor in when they're looking at all this. And I

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Speaker 5: don't have any indication that they aren't committed to re

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Speaker 5: signing him, but this is one of those years when

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Speaker 5: you look at it. He's got two years left in

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Speaker 5: the contract that he did three years ago, and you know,

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Speaker 5: it certainly would look like if if they aren't able

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Speaker 5: to work something out and do an extension this offseason,

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Speaker 5: that it would become a talking point over the course

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Speaker 5: of the year. And again, like that hasn't played out

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Speaker 5: great for the Ravens in the three other seasons where

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Speaker 5: that's been the case.

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Speaker 2: This is why you're great, man.

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Speaker 3: You just connected a bunch of stuff that I haven't

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Speaker 3: seen anywhere else at that Lamar contract missing gate. That's

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Speaker 3: very interesting. All right, let's move to a little more

637
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: positive story. Denver Broncos trade for Jayal and Waddle. I

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Speaker 3: don't know that he's like a missing piece, but damn

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Speaker 3: that roster's sick.

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Speaker 2: I mean the receiving room is solid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Sutton the kid Pat Bryant flashed and now

642
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: you got Wattle underneath. I mean, Sean Payton and company

643
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Speaker 3: have done They've moved some miracles here in the last

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Speaker 3: couple of years. I almost think they opened the season

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Speaker 3: as favorites in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: I mean they just got home field advantage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I love where they're at, like, and I think that

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Speaker 5: this trade is indicative of that, you know, and the

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Speaker 5: fact that they've been able to build her up. And remember,

651
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Speaker 5: like they've done this with the handicap the last two years,

652
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Speaker 5: of all the dead money from the Russell Wilson contract,

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Speaker 5: and then without those first round picks. You know they

654
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Speaker 5: gave up for they gave up first round picks to

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Speaker 5: get Wilson, they gave up a first round pick to

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Speaker 5: get Sean Payton, and they've still been able to rebuild

657
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Speaker 5: a roster and make it, which is really remarkable if

658
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Speaker 5: you think about it. And right now, I'd say, like

659
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Speaker 5: you look at them defensively, I don't know, is there

660
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Speaker 5: a hole on that defense? I don't think so. I

661
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Speaker 5: think most people would agree that it's a top five

662
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Speaker 5: unit in the league. They've got one of the best

663
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Speaker 5: offensive lines in football. And to me, if you like

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Speaker 5: look at their roster globally, the one question you would

665
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Speaker 5: have is, Okay, they've got all these complimentary pieces on offense,

666
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Speaker 5: but is there one weapon that carries coverage that dictates

667
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Speaker 5: what the defense is going to do to you? And

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Speaker 5: they hope that Wattle can be that for them because

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Speaker 5: if Wattle can be the number one, now all of

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Speaker 5: a sudden, you're slotting guys into rule roles that might

671
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Speaker 5: be more.

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Speaker 2: Suitable for him. Sutton becomes like the number two.

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Speaker 5: Then you've got Pat Bryant and Marvin Mims, who you

674
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Speaker 5: can play in different roles. You've got Evan Ingram, and

675
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Speaker 5: you've got RG Harvey, and you've got JK. Dobbins and so,

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Speaker 5: you know, you look at the totality of it and like,

677
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Speaker 5: what enables them to make a move like this is

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Speaker 5: that they have so few things to address on their

679
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Speaker 5: roster that the draft picks become more disposable. And they're

680
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Speaker 5: still in that window with a quarterback on a rookie contract.

681
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Speaker 5: And think about this to jmak, Right, so the three

682
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Speaker 5: years that are left on Jalen Waddles deal. They get

683
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Speaker 5: those three years for less than sixty seven million dollars,

684
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Speaker 5: and the average per year comes out between twenty two

685
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Speaker 5: and twenty three million dollars. That's less than they're paying

686
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Speaker 5: Courtland Sutton. So like you look at like the math

687
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Speaker 5: of it, you look at like where they are from

688
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Speaker 5: a roster standpoint, and yeah, they had to give up

689
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Speaker 5: some draft capital to get here, but they're in position

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Speaker 5: to do it because of what they've done and in

691
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Speaker 5: terms of building their team since Sean Payton got there.

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Speaker 2: Now I am spacing.

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Speaker 3: So Peyton was going to give up play calling and

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Speaker 3: give it to the young guy who was there spaking. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Davis Webb, thank you? So is there any do we

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Speaker 3: know anything about Davis Webb? And he really hasn't called

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Speaker 3: plays before.

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Speaker 5: Right, he hasn't, But he was really close on a

699
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Speaker 5: couple of these, you know, these head coach opening's, Like

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Speaker 5: I think he was right there with Clint Kubiak and

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Speaker 5: the race to get the Raider job.

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Speaker 2: So he's going to be a head coach soon.

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Speaker 5: And you know, part of the whole deal this offseason

704
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Speaker 5: was the teams were stuffing around on him as a

705
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Speaker 5: play caller Sean Payton wasn't going to let him go.

706
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Speaker 5: But I do think this is an acknowledgment of where

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Speaker 5: Davis Web is and how he sees the game. It's

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Speaker 5: a little surprising to me just in that, you know,

709
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Speaker 5: for almost you know, a quarter century now, regardless of

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Speaker 5: what role Sean Payton was in on a coaching staff,

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Speaker 5: whether it was the coordinator with the Giants or the Cowboys,

712
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Speaker 5: or the head coach of the Saints, of the Broncos,

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Speaker 5: he's always been the play caller, and so the fact

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Speaker 5: that he's willing to give it up did surprise me

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Speaker 5: a little bit because it's something that he's really really

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Speaker 5: good at, and he clearly knows how to manage. Some

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Speaker 5: guys have trouble with this. He knows how to manage

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Speaker 5: both being the head coach and the play caller. But

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Speaker 5: I think it's an acknowledgement that Davis Web had a

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Speaker 5: lot of opportunities that he either walked away from or

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Speaker 5: couldn't go get because the Broncos weren't going to let

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Speaker 5: him out to go get another coordinator job. Gives him

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Speaker 5: an opportunity to grow as a coach, and I can

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Speaker 5: say this Sean Payton thinks the world of how Davis

725
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Speaker 5: web sees the game, so it might be another set

726
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Speaker 5: of eyes on how to use.

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Speaker 2: All the talent they have on offense.

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Speaker 3: Now, all right, as much as I want to ask

729
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Speaker 3: you about the Jets and Gino Smith, we'll pass on

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Speaker 3: them for now.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the Dolphins. Aspect of the trade.

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Speaker 3: Malik Willis, he has to probably be asking, hey, is

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Speaker 3: the contract that I signed is that dry can get

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Speaker 3: out of it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, dude, they got.

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Speaker 3: Nobody now and we're finding eight chan Is, They're fielding

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Speaker 3: calls about him.

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Speaker 2: This team is tanking.

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Speaker 3: We knew that a month ago, and Malik Willis still

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Speaker 3: went there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think it's to some degree you're threatening the needle here,

743
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Speaker 5: right because the reason they hired the two guys they hired,

744
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Speaker 5: which the GM john Eric Sullivan and the coach Jeff

745
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 5: Athley both come from Green Bay, is because ownership really

746
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Speaker 5: decided we need to be better at drafting and developing

747
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Speaker 5: our own Over the last four years, they've had fewer

748
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Speaker 5: draft picks than any team in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: A couple of those draft classes.

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Speaker 5: Were complete wastelands of talent, and I think if you

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Speaker 5: looked at it even going into last year.

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Speaker 2: I made this comment last year. Right going into.

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Speaker 5: Last year, I think there were two players in the

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Speaker 5: roster that you could look at and say, yeah, those

755
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Speaker 5: guys will be around three years from now. One was

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Speaker 5: actually Waddle and the other was Chop Robinson.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: Other than that, it's hard to find guys in that

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Speaker 5: roster that were real young, building blocks that you knew

760
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Speaker 5: were going to be there a few years down the line.

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Speaker 5: So they needed to fix that. And to do that,

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Speaker 5: you got to build up your war chest to picks,

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Speaker 5: and so that was always going to be part of

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Speaker 5: their focus this offseason, and they basically made it known

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Speaker 5: to the rest of the league, ask us on anybody

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Speaker 5: everyone might be available, make us an offer. It doesn't

767
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Speaker 5: mean they're putting everyone in the block, but they will

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Speaker 5: listen to any sort of idea.

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Speaker 2: But why sign Malik Willison. So that's the threading the

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Speaker 2: needle part of this, right.

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Speaker 5: So the threading the needle part of this is, if

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Speaker 5: you're Jeff Haffley, you still have to get buy in.

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Speaker 5: You still have to build a foundation, and you still

774
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 5: have to have something in the locker room for the

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Speaker 5: players to wrap their arms around and say, yeah, this

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Speaker 5: guy's going to give us a chance. Because remember, eighty

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Speaker 5: ninety percent of those players have no idea where they're

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Speaker 5: going to be playing the next year. And those guys

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00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 5: don't care about your three year plan or your five

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00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 5: year plan. So you have to give those guys something

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Speaker 5: where they say, yeah, the head coach, the general manager,

782
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Speaker 5: they're trying to win right now. They're trying to help

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Speaker 5: me perform individually right now. And so I think they

784
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Speaker 5: had to give the locker room a quarterback that they

785
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Speaker 5: could at least say, yes, this is going to give

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Speaker 5: us a chance. And I think that's what Malik Willis

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Speaker 5: is for the Dolphins new regime.

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Speaker 3: They better not beat us to archs banning. All right,

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Speaker 3: Albert Breer, Yes, I'm already thinking about tanking. Albert Albert Breer,

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Speaker 3: Monday Morning Quarterback. Great stuff as always, pal, see you soon,

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Speaker 3: all right, thanks she Matt, all right, Albert Breer, great stuff.

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Speaker 2: That guy's good. He's an oracle.

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 6: in newon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 6: FS one and the iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: App Our number two.

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Speaker 3: Here on the Herd, We's just flying by unbelievable Jason

798
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 3: mcattyre in for Colin Coward. He has checked in by

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Speaker 3: the way he stopped ghosting me. I didn't reply on purpose.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna act cool like, hey, I can't

801
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: reply instantly from waiting a day. Don't tell me it's

802
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: enjoyed by Rachel Nichols, who knows about texting.

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Speaker 2: You don't instantly text back to everybody? Well, you never

804
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: double text? Really? Is that a rule?

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Speaker 4: If you're if like you, you are in a relationship

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Speaker 4: with someone, which is apparently you and Colin, you don't

807
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 4: want to be like, hey, how's it going, and then

808
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: if they don't answer, you be like hey, how's it

809
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Speaker 4: going again?

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Speaker 2: Or be you know or whatever.

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Speaker 4: So my friends who are in dating situations, I always.

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Speaker 2: Say, you know, don't double text.

813
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Speaker 4: If the guy doesn't answer you, he doesn't answer, you,

814
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Speaker 4: don't then go back because that looks spare desperate.

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Speaker 2: So don't double text.

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Speaker 3: Jason, we should start a podcast about dating etiquette, even

817
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Speaker 3: though we're both married.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I mean, I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: know some singing. I know I know nothing about the

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Speaker 2: day's current dating, right. I hear dating in LA is

821
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Speaker 2: very difficult. I mean, I think dating in general these

822
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Speaker 2: days is difficult. What do I know anyway? What do

823
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Speaker 2: you know anything? Nothing about dating?

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Speaker 3: But I do know a little bit about NBA MVP awards, Folks.

825
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Speaker 2: He's on such a heater. I figure we've got to

826
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Speaker 2: recalibrate the MVP.

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Speaker 3: Now. I don't have a vote, Rachel does. So I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna go five to one NBA MVP candidates. Now, I

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Speaker 3: know there's a straw poll out there that says Asgas

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Speaker 3: a lock boulder dash, things change, results of just matters.

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Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's start with number five, number five, SGA.

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Speaker 2: I know everybody thinks he's number one.

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Speaker 3: No he's not. How is he number one? Has he

834
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Speaker 3: gotten better than last year? Like he's a big favorite

835
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Speaker 3: minus one thousand, But you know that's ila. I'm an underdog.

836
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Speaker 3: Better listen. Yes, they have the best record in the NBA. Yes,

837
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Speaker 3: as immensely talented and grade. He's had a couple of

838
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Speaker 3: game winners. But but they also have like the best

839
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Speaker 3: roster in the league by a mile. And wait until

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Speaker 3: the very end, because I'm gonna say you some stats

841
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Speaker 3: that are gonna blow your mind. Comparing SGA to other

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Speaker 3: guys on this list.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go SGA five. Who's next? Number four?

844
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Speaker 3: Nicola jokis you know Denver's taking a bit of a

845
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: step back obviously, No, Aaron Gordon for a long stretch

846
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Speaker 3: has hurt NICOLEA Jokic four.

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Speaker 2: It's not a slight He's been amazing. But Denver's also

848
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Speaker 2: sixth in the West. If you were amazing, wouldn't they

849
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Speaker 2: be third? Maybe they will end.

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Speaker 3: Up third and you'll rise up the charts. But I

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Speaker 3: SGA five, and again I have Jokic four, and things

852
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 3: are changing, Things are revolving. In the last two weeks

853
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: a lot has changed. The odds, by the way, have

854
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Speaker 3: shifted significantly, and that's why I.

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Speaker 2: Have Jokic four.

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Speaker 3: Number three, I'm going Jalen Brown. Guys, Yeah, you like

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Speaker 3: that BRONC. I'm Jalen Brown has been playing like that

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Speaker 3: this year. I think we have some sound from him

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Speaker 3: on the Celtics coming up later in the show.

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Speaker 2: That's just extraordinary. I like Jalen Brown a lot.

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Speaker 3: I like the little flex that he was working out

862
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: of my gym leading up to the draft, and I

863
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: watched a lengthy line, shall we say, of NBA GM's

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Speaker 3: roll in.

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Speaker 2: I'm like for Jalen Brown. I didn't think he was

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Speaker 2: this guy. He's him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Jalen Brown is really carrying Boston without Tatum

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Speaker 3: all season.

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Speaker 2: They're the biggest surprise in the East. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: knew Detroit would be improved, nobody.

871
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: Thought Boston would be top two without Jason Tatum.

872
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: Congrat to Jalen Brown. Number two.

873
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: I'm going with Victor wembin Yama, Victor Big Vic, the man,

874
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: the myth, the legend, as Tron Armstead just told us,

875
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: as Rachel's told us he's gonna own this league for

876
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: a decade.

877
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: I think everybody would agree.

878
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: The guy's just extraordinary. I love watching him. He's become

879
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 3: a must watch for me in the league. For the

880
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: longest time, Steph Curry was that man, and then it

881
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: was kind of well, Lebron was right there, and Luca's

882
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 3: up there. You know, some of the guys in this

883
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 3: like Jokics for me's not, Oh my gosh, Yokis is playing.

884
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: I got a turar on the TV SGA is certainly

885
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: not Victor Wamanamo. Hell yeah, checking in at number two

886
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: on the MVP list, number one, let's hear it for Luca,

887
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: Luca Legend.

888
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: His stats this month are staggering. He is absolutely off

889
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: the charts.

890
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: He had forty on Wednesday, and less than twenty four

891
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 3: hours later he had sixty.

892
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: Guys. I mean, he's.

893
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 3: Averaging thirty nine points per game on the second leg

894
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: of back to backs this season.

895
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: Thirty nine.

896
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 3: But I was told he's an old twenty seven.

897
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: And he doesn't dunk anymore. Thin guy had nine threes

898
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: last night. He's unbelievable. There's just too many accolades for me.

899
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,959
Speaker 3: To get into here for Luca, but I have Luca

900
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 3: number one. He is my MVP vote as of right now.

901
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: The fictitious vote that I don't have.

902
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: But that's my list. I know you probably don't like it.