Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles. We're
Speaker 1: through to be joined in our third seat, but one
Speaker 1: of our favorite guests, a very commented writer, stand up
Speaker 1: the median co host of one of the great film podcasts,
Speaker 1: The Bechdel Cast. They also happen to have a master
Speaker 1: to Graham film. They also happen to have the most
Speaker 1: anagrammable name in the English language. What so, if you've
Speaker 1: been given their name in a jumble of scrabble tiles,
Speaker 1: you may know them as Lauren d Titan or nine
Speaker 1: hit Dracula or Latin dancer Uti. But to us they
Speaker 1: will always be Caitlin.
Speaker 2: Daronte did Yeah, and my dad is we were discussing previously,
Speaker 2: Jimmy Duranny.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Something going on with that snow or maybe it
Speaker 1: was the hat.
Speaker 3: Because wow, maybe it was the mass hallucinations of the
Speaker 3: children who thought he came to life. You know what,
Speaker 3: Joe will like the comedy stylings of Jimmy Durany for
Speaker 3: years to come.
Speaker 4: Oh man, that's oh yeah, that is the most I
Speaker 4: think that's the Frosty the Snowman song I would play
Speaker 4: the most on, like the kid friendly Christmas playlist I
Speaker 4: was playing in the house, was like.
Speaker 1: I can't really sing, but it's charming. Yeah. And speaking
Speaker 1: of charming, Caitlin, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I am doing period.
Speaker 1: I'm doing. You are doing, I'm doing.
Speaker 5: You're in the act of doing, aren't well yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly how are you doing?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm I'm actually still salty that Jack
Speaker 4: stole the hot sauce from me at the White Elephant party.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I actually stole Ian stole it from
Speaker 4: me and then Jack stole it from the hot one.
Speaker 4: And I've been meaning to ask you, Jack since that
Speaker 4: very contentious moment at our holiday white Elephant gift party.
Speaker 1: How's the hot sauce? Oh man, I just threw that
Speaker 1: ship out when I got way too spicy for me.
Speaker 3: Spicy ad, you know how I I think Mayo is
Speaker 3: too spicy on.
Speaker 2: It was like a three on this scovel scale, and
Speaker 2: Jacket is like, oh power move just looking at it.
Speaker 1: Catch up the spiciest thing I'll allow my body.
Speaker 5: Deranny, what did you walk away with at the White Elephant?
Speaker 2: I ended up with a bottle of Jamison, bottle of Jamo.
Speaker 1: Okay, some coffee arms, oh, little starter pack brought by
Speaker 1: yours truly Irish coffee starter pack. Yeah? Yeah, good? Well? Uh.
Speaker 1: There there was also a twenty five dollars Taco Bell
Speaker 1: It's actually thirty, wasn't it? Thirty dollars Taco Bell gift card. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I won five dollars over the limit because I'm kind
Speaker 1: of a big, big spend. But there was a studio
Speaker 1: the one percent. There was a gem between my presence,
Speaker 1: which was diarrhea things that will make you shit your
Speaker 1: pants inducing gifts. Yeah, to see it. We love it,
Speaker 1: don't we, folks? We do? What is something from your
Speaker 1: search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay?
Speaker 6: So here are the most the three most recent things
Speaker 6: that I've googled. One is our fifty mile per hour
Speaker 6: winds deadly. Second our one hundhundred mile per our winds deadly.
Speaker 6: The answer that for fifty is not really. The answer
Speaker 6: for one hundred is yes wow. And the third thing
Speaker 6: that I've searched is sad pictures of Garfield, because you know,
Speaker 6: I find a post about Garfield, and sometimes you just
Speaker 6: got to find a sad picture of Garfield that.
Speaker 7: Genuinely does tell me a lot about how your mind works.
Speaker 7: Because I'm going to let you know right now, my
Speaker 7: third search would have been to seventy five mile hour.
Speaker 5: No, I mean I got my answer.
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, one hundred mile hour winds are deadly?
Speaker 1: Are we seeing one hundred right now?
Speaker 6: I think it's I think it's supposed to be fifty
Speaker 6: to one hundred.
Speaker 1: Potentially it's a big range Los Angeles Weather Service.
Speaker 8: That's a Jesus, what is happening? I didn't even realize
Speaker 8: this was a thing.
Speaker 6: I mean, we are recording this while in a tornado
Speaker 6: right now?
Speaker 1: For sure? Yeah, just in the vortext going by our windows.
Speaker 1: This is the.
Speaker 7: Twister from Twisters sleeping off the Golden Glows, right right, folks?
Speaker 1: Am I right? I didn't watch all of the Golden Globes,
Speaker 1: so I don't think I got that reference. But I didn't.
Speaker 7: Oh, I didn't watch any of it, nor did I
Speaker 7: watch Twisters. I just assume Twister.
Speaker 6: Is just assume that one best actor. Yeah, right, I mean,
Speaker 6: maybe I didn't watch the Twister. Twister, the Twister, the Twister.
Speaker 1: It was not. It was nominated for the best uh
Speaker 1: Best Cinematic Theatrical Experience or whatever was that. I think
Speaker 1: Wicked ended up winning.
Speaker 6: Thats so there was more than one twister in this movie.
Speaker 6: So some of you the main Twisters, the main twister
Speaker 6: got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't watch it a
Speaker 6: weird twister.
Speaker 1: No, I need. I genuinely hear that. It's very fun.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of fun. People keep getting sucked off
Speaker 1: into the sky as much. Just like to point out
Speaker 1: out loud while he was watching it to her majesty,
Speaker 1: sad pictures of Garfield. Maybe, Garfield said, because also ineligible
Speaker 1: for the Oscars. According to this article, not enough diversity
Speaker 1: in the Garfield movie.
Speaker 6: He should look that. I mean, look, best animated, Best
Speaker 6: animated feature at least should have been like something that
Speaker 6: was dominated for it was great.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, are you a huge You're that's right, you're
Speaker 1: a huge.
Speaker 8: Always joways doctor Garfield.
Speaker 1: Gar Garfield, Yeah, exact Garfield.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm genuinely wearing like a Garfield cardigan right now.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Wow.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yo, listeners, you're getting fucked by not having this,
Speaker 7: not having a.
Speaker 1: Video that is a beautiful cardigan with a big old
Speaker 1: Garfield on one of the sides. Miles. We tell the
Speaker 1: people what he thinks underrated, what we think is overrated?
Speaker 1: What you got you got? Anything you canted underrated?
Speaker 4: A few things I think like you with many observations
Speaker 4: hit us and we we kept.
Speaker 5: Them for this moment.
Speaker 4: I will start off with the convenience of watching movies
Speaker 4: that are out in theaters on your couch.
Speaker 8: It's a slippery slope, y'all.
Speaker 5: I love going to move to the movies.
Speaker 4: I always will, but the ease at which you can
Speaker 4: summon a new movie and watch it on the couch
Speaker 4: almost had me thinking, why do I bother going to
Speaker 4: the theater? Yea, but then you want to go and
Speaker 4: rent that shit on your couch. And I still can't
Speaker 4: wrap my head around renting of a temporary stream from
Speaker 4: like an Apple TV or whatever for twenty dollars. It's like,
Speaker 4: somehow I can't even fathom that it's cheaper than actually
Speaker 4: going to the movies. I'm like, no, no, no, twenty
Speaker 4: dollars to rent. I go, Brian, is this on the server?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Plus you always get mad that I'm laughing at
Speaker 1: inappropriate moments when I'm taking the video of the movie exactly,
Speaker 1: I watch and then send to you.
Speaker 4: I mean, thank you for sending me that nas Faratu
Speaker 4: screen cap, But did you did you just film that
Speaker 4: off your tvither or in the theater? But yeah, that's one.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna get through all these. The next one
Speaker 4: la weather and how I perceive winter. We all know
Speaker 4: I am obsessed with the cold and not and basically
Speaker 4: getting my whole shit frost bit okay reference to Jack
Speaker 4: getting his whole shit bit by yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah.
Speaker 4: All I could talk about this break with people who
Speaker 4: weren't from LA was what is your winter like in
Speaker 4: the land where you come from?
Speaker 5: And then I went to Colorado.
Speaker 4: The thing, basically, what I noticed was a lot of
Speaker 4: places that get snow weren't getting snow as like sort
Speaker 4: of around the typical time, thanks climate change. I was
Speaker 4: also reading about how snow days are like becoming less
Speaker 4: and less of a frequent occurrence.
Speaker 1: And now I never.
Speaker 5: Knew about that. I didn't even know that was a
Speaker 5: fucking thing.
Speaker 4: But when I know that from movies, which has shaped
Speaker 4: my entire idea of what winter is because I thought, basically,
Speaker 4: when December hits, everywhere is a winter wonderland.
Speaker 5: Turns out that's not true. Earth has different patterns.
Speaker 4: But anyway, I just I just have to say I
Speaker 4: was just I went to skate on a frozen lake
Speaker 4: and that shit was so whimsical I had to skate
Speaker 4: it in a minute.
Speaker 1: Wait, where were you?
Speaker 5: I went to Colorado for a couple of days.
Speaker 4: Shatayan, Shock, Kelly, you know, shout out the whole crew
Speaker 4: out there, and we skated on a frozen lake.
Speaker 5: That shit was so fun.
Speaker 4: But then I was also talking to someone else who's
Speaker 4: from the East Coast and like, I used to do
Speaker 4: this all the time, but the lakes don't freeze over
Speaker 4: with the same frequency they did as a kid, and
Speaker 4: like the kids in my town, like my town growing up,
Speaker 4: don't kind of know the same way we used to
Speaker 4: do winter. And then I had like this like weird
Speaker 4: blade runner moment where I'm like just like shedding a
Speaker 4: tear for like everything and everyone I'd been through. It
Speaker 4: got kind of kind of grim. As I stated, on
Speaker 4: this lake, I thought a lot about climate change.
Speaker 1: Lakes here gobbling people up. Yeah, yeah they are. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying like, maybe maybe it would help with the
Speaker 1: climate catastrophe if we had ways to dramatize it. No,
Speaker 1: snow days and lakes are gobbling people up who try
Speaker 1: and and I.
Speaker 4: Think I think it also makes it a little bit
Speaker 4: different me because like I'm so used to the one
Speaker 4: note climate that I'm not realizing how wacky the variations.
Speaker 4: I mean, I obviously know that intellectually that earth death
Speaker 4: is happening in real time, but there's something about living
Speaker 4: in la where you're just.
Speaker 5: Kind of like, oh, it's not as cold in December.
Speaker 4: And then you go a little bit further up, like
Speaker 4: where there's usually like Big Bear where their ski season
Speaker 4: is like getting destroyed like a year after year because
Speaker 4: of the lack of snowfall.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: All that to say my next underrated beef tallow get in, folks.
Speaker 4: I made a roasted a lot of holiday meat, rendered
Speaker 4: the fat, and I've used it to make frozen hash
Speaker 4: browns tastier okay, grilled cheese sandoz from Okay because they're
Speaker 4: so fucking beef fatty Okay, the way I grill them
Speaker 4: and the vibe of steak and eggs with just eggs
Speaker 4: and using the beef tallot to fry the eggs.
Speaker 1: Anyway, you're rendering the fat just by like cooking a
Speaker 1: steak on a grill on a you know.
Speaker 4: Like I made like a I made a prime rib
Speaker 4: roast like for Christmas, and so all the fat trimming
Speaker 4: and leftover fat from that meal, I just cut up
Speaker 4: into small pieces and just put that on low heat,
Speaker 4: all the fat, just to get all that fat out.
Speaker 4: Then you strain it and now you have just the
Speaker 4: essence of beef flavor that you can use to do
Speaker 4: anything with. So anyway, so I think.
Speaker 1: I'm raising a couple miles is in the in the
Speaker 1: sense of like really I took I drove, just me
Speaker 1: and my boys went up to Sequoia National Park. I
Speaker 1: was really excited about the big trees. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: look how big those trees are. Those trees are huge.
Speaker 1: And kids, guys, they were into that, but like really
Speaker 1: what they were They just like there was a a
Speaker 1: field with snow in it, and they just like went
Speaker 1: and lot wanted to play in the snow the whole
Speaker 1: time and just like pick up chunks of ice and
Speaker 1: hit hit piles of snow with sticks.
Speaker 4: The geist child every time we saw snow. He go Santa.
Speaker 4: Santa is Santa because like a couple of like the
Speaker 4: weird you know Santa things that we saw always have
Speaker 4: like these very winter depictions that he meet.
Speaker 1: Is like Santa.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, nah, Son, that's just snow.
Speaker 1: That's we don't know, we.
Speaker 5: Know, not of snow can come from.
Speaker 1: All right, my underrated leg day. So this is a
Speaker 1: weird run. But on the basketball podcast, I listened to
Speaker 1: The Flagrant Ones hosted by a friend of the show,
Speaker 1: Carl Tart, friend of the show, Hayes Davenport. The third
Speaker 1: host who we should have on at some point but
Speaker 1: have not, ye Shawn Clements. Uh So, Sean Clements was
Speaker 1: talking about this tennis movie he wrote and that just
Speaker 1: wrapped that he was shooting. And they had as like
Speaker 1: a tennis consultant, the number one tennis coach in America,
Speaker 1: like in pros there to consult and he was like,
Speaker 1: is really what he's like? Great guy, but he kept
Speaker 1: talking about men's legs and he was just obsessed with
Speaker 1: legs and like, and they like had a professional tennis
Speaker 1: player come in and they were like talking about how
Speaker 1: the coaches about all about legs and the professional tennis
Speaker 1: players like guys, let me stop you right there. I
Speaker 1: would love to join in and make fun of him,
Speaker 1: but like, I'm also obsessed with men's legs, and apparently
Speaker 1: like just having real some plumper rocks down there is
Speaker 1: what actually like makes you a great tennis player, which
Speaker 1: isn't what I would I would assume you just go
Speaker 1: out there looking like Popeye, big arms, tiny tiny legs
Speaker 1: and just whacking that thing around. But apparently it's all
Speaker 1: about leg So it got me checking checking some legs.
Speaker 1: And then I went and saw No Sparatu, and I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed No Saratu. Bobby Eggs I think has officially
Speaker 1: Robert Eggers has officially entered the cannon of like directors
Speaker 1: who like just will open them like enough people will
Speaker 1: go see the movie like whatever whatever he does. It's
Speaker 1: like a weird vampire origin story, but it feels like
Speaker 1: you're Hermanoudic sealed in like a different time. Like it
Speaker 1: just feels so completely engrossing or hermetically hermetically hermenetically is
Speaker 1: from Herman inside Herman's head. Hermetically yes, but anyways, uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's real horny. This is real horny dark vampire
Speaker 1: origin story. A lot of people went and saw it
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not that into this ship, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go see it and really really enjoyed it. The
Speaker 1: dragula count Orlock is there's this one shot of him
Speaker 1: and I feel I feel like they were on the
Speaker 1: verge of launching a sex symbol with this count Orlock guy.
Speaker 1: And then they show him and he is walking around
Speaker 1: on some flats like after I get done with some
Speaker 1: chicken wing flats, Like they are just bare bones, just
Speaker 1: bare bones down there, just like split my bones.
Speaker 5: What this picture you put in for reference?
Speaker 4: It is fucking you're so is this dude walking around
Speaker 4: like this the whole movie?
Speaker 1: So all right here, here's the problem.
Speaker 5: Is it spoilers or no?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of spoilers, So I can't tell you exactly,
Speaker 1: you know what, Okay, do a spoiler for you to
Speaker 1: say exactly what you're looking at. But he is revealed
Speaker 1: at the very end to you know, you get to
Speaker 1: see the whole body it he's he's not working with
Speaker 1: much down there. He's been he's been floating around too much,
Speaker 1: like just two inches off the ground. I guess that's
Speaker 1: what happened to you. If you you know, if you're
Speaker 1: just if you're just in a Spike Lee tracking shot,
Speaker 1: anytime you want to move around, you know, that's I
Speaker 1: feel like that. Uh that's that's where you end up.
Speaker 1: His legs are just so tiny. So anyways, that was,
Speaker 1: you know, I think ultimately knows Fratu is a good
Speaker 1: movie and a cautionary tale about like the vampiric nature
Speaker 1: of like capitalism and sex. And but the cautionary tale
Speaker 1: I took away is don't don't skip leg day. Yeah yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: that's uh those are my two big ones. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I started doing legs, started lifting legs, yeah, legs, started
Speaker 1: doing started using my legs. The first time.
Speaker 5: You go too hard, you're like, oh man, I tore
Speaker 5: my hamstring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh go easy.
Speaker 5: Go easy on those legs, Jack, take care of them.
Speaker 1: I do my best. What is something blake that you
Speaker 1: think is overrated?
Speaker 9: So I think overrated as a practice is street cleaning,
Speaker 9: like residential street cleaning in cities where I've never First
Speaker 9: of all, i've never seen street cleaning happen. And I
Speaker 9: go outside and look and like, wow, look how clean
Speaker 9: this fucking street is? Like they don't nothing gets cleaned.
Speaker 9: And if you don't know what it is. Like, Basically,
Speaker 9: it's alternate street cleaning. So if you're in a city
Speaker 9: they like, you're not allowed to park on a side
Speaker 9: of the street from X time deck time because allegedly
Speaker 9: a fucking sweeper truck comes by and cleans the street
Speaker 9: and you get ticketed if you leave your car there.
Speaker 9: So I don't have a like a garage or a
Speaker 9: parking spot, so like I move my car. And this
Speaker 9: also happened when I lived in La too, But it
Speaker 9: just seems to me like a shitty way for the
Speaker 9: city to get revenue with no benefit to people whatsoever
Speaker 9: street cleaning. So there is an interesting where I saw
Speaker 9: in Brooklyn, there's this weird community thing that like neighborhoods
Speaker 9: will do where they'll double stack their cars on one
Speaker 9: side of the street, so say, like the right side
Speaker 9: it's being cleaned street cleaning. Cars from the right side
Speaker 9: will just park next to the cars and trap them
Speaker 9: in on the left side of the street. But like
Speaker 9: I guess people know each other and have each other's
Speaker 9: numbers where if they have to leave. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 9: pretty elaborate system that I would imagine doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that just stressed me out so much too. My
Speaker 1: heart rate shot through the roof just hearing about that arrangement.
Speaker 7: I do kind of genuinely believe that it's a little
Speaker 7: bit like velociraptor rules for the non ticketable side of
Speaker 7: the street on on alternate side parking, like yeah, fucking
Speaker 7: double park the entire street. Like I feel like, and
Speaker 7: I know this can't be true, but I genuinely feel
Speaker 7: like the fucking like traffic cops, the whatever, the people
Speaker 7: giving tickets, it's like they can only see the side
Speaker 7: of the street where people were like, you're not supposed
Speaker 7: to be parked, and it's lawless on the other side
Speaker 7: on here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, this is this is crazy. Brian the
Speaker 1: editor has come through and described a situation that doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense to me. Brand the editor lives in
Speaker 1: Mexico City, where soon to be America City. Just you, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: But they employ people who need money, okay, weird, and
Speaker 1: give them a high viz vest and broom and then
Speaker 1: they just actually clean the streets every day. So like,
Speaker 1: where do you get the big machine that comes through
Speaker 1: and blows shit in your face if you have to
Speaker 1: be Yeah, because I have seen the streets. Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1: It just turns it out of the way into a
Speaker 1: different direction.
Speaker 7: Because it makes it makes It's like what if you
Speaker 7: only had a broom and no dust pan.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's exactly what's.
Speaker 1: Great if we created a three hundred thousand dollars machine
Speaker 1: that was like a broom with no dust pan and
Speaker 1: uh there's some water I think mixed in a little
Speaker 1: bit where likes it down.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a change. The leaves are moved, but they
Speaker 7: are there.
Speaker 1: So many things could be fixed with just like we're
Speaker 1: gonna and four hundred jobs based on like talking to
Speaker 1: people in the city, like jobs that they think should exist,
Speaker 1: and yeah, the task we're going to pay them.
Speaker 7: Well yeah, yeah, one utility for those street cleaning things.
Speaker 8: I don't know if this is actually as.
Speaker 7: True anymore in the era of three D printing, but
Speaker 7: if you're looking to create DIY lock picks, the bristles
Speaker 7: from a street cleaning thing are some of the best
Speaker 7: in the bids as far as lock picking tools.
Speaker 1: How the fuck do you know that mustache as well?
Speaker 9: I want to add that.
Speaker 1: But only at certain times of the month. You have
Speaker 1: to get it at a certain times.
Speaker 8: After they molt.
Speaker 1: Yes, right before they molt, so you can't get it
Speaker 1: unless you can make friends with the walrus right before
Speaker 1: they molt off.
Speaker 7: The lock pick thing, editor Brian has in Chats started
Speaker 7: on a path of proclamations that I'm worried are going
Speaker 7: to become legally actionable.
Speaker 8: So I'll just say he agrees it works.
Speaker 1: So well, you know that. That's amazing, all right, you
Speaker 1: guys are much cooler than me. Also, the street cleaning thing,
Speaker 1: I wasn't talking about you, Blake. The street cleaning thing
Speaker 1: does tie in with I think what we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about with regards to the police, because it's like,
Speaker 1: how do we have just every what if the only
Speaker 1: tool you had was a hammer and you had to
Speaker 1: make it do every job with the blunt end of
Speaker 1: a hammer.
Speaker 7: A bunch of hammers that actually shoot really little hammers
Speaker 7: via concussive force, and that's all you can do with them.
Speaker 7: They're not really designed for hammering anything.
Speaker 1: The way we don't have people who go out in
Speaker 1: the street clean the street. We have one really fast,
Speaker 1: heavy machine that goes around and if you get in
Speaker 1: it the fucking way, you have to deal with the cops. Asshole.
Speaker 1: A weird way to streets, clean, clean up the streets.
Speaker 1: We're taking out the trash. Were No, we just like
Speaker 1: literally mean we want the streets to.
Speaker 8: Be not literally trash.
Speaker 1: Yes, asshole. As Biden said, we count on police to
Speaker 1: be our teachers, are psychiatrists, our librarians, our custodians, our wives.
Speaker 1: We don't need to defund the police. We need to
Speaker 1: fund more. That was his argument, giving them more fun. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break, we'll come back, we'll talk
Speaker 1: about the wildfires. And we're back. And as mentioned up top,
Speaker 1: Miles is not here because of the wildfires. I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, give him space to to you know, talk
Speaker 1: about it when he gets back. But you know, sending
Speaker 1: a lot of love and good energy to him and
Speaker 1: his family. But you know, we're ore. Producer Justin is
Speaker 1: out because you know, his area has been without power
Speaker 1: for forty eight hours. Just a lot of people dealing
Speaker 1: with a lot of shit. I've got somebody who's a
Speaker 1: good friend of mine who was evacuated, who's staying with
Speaker 1: us right now. Andrew, it sounds like you've got some
Speaker 1: of that, yeah in your way, yea, And yeah, it
Speaker 1: just it's it's not one of those like I know
Speaker 1: a guy who has a friend who like this impacted.
Speaker 1: It's like every everybody's like one degree of separation away
Speaker 1: from people who are losing.
Speaker 7: And you know, to the extent that there is any
Speaker 7: kind of silver lining to this, well, I don't know.
Speaker 7: And I'm also going to say something that I'm not
Speaker 7: even totally sure is true, but I think this is
Speaker 7: the first like climate major climate disaster that has affected
Speaker 7: large numbers of middle and upper middle class white people.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's true.
Speaker 7: I mean maybe assumption in the UK that is, but
Speaker 7: you know, in the Far Australia and dry you know,
Speaker 7: this is certainly like I don't know what sort of
Speaker 7: like change in political will this could possibly bring, but
Speaker 7: it is sort of that where it's like, you know,
Speaker 7: you can't hide from this, like you know, as much
Speaker 7: as it's a result of us, like you know, exploiting
Speaker 7: the global South and people of color and poor people everywhere,
Speaker 7: it's like, yeah, but it's it's we're changing shit, and
Speaker 7: it's it's there's no protection from this really.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think that's right.
Speaker 8: It's not that that feels good, but that's the truth.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: It feels like we're in a you know, the scale
Speaker 1: seems biblical, Like I feel like it needs to be
Speaker 1: biblical for like people to get their heads around what
Speaker 1: is happening and like the amount of change that needs
Speaker 1: to happen. But yeah, hopefully this is cutting across enough
Speaker 1: borders that there's political will to do something beyond the
Speaker 1: guy being like, hey, is anybody know any private firefighters
Speaker 1: that could come through and save my house? Uh?
Speaker 9: Andrew rained on that parade for me because I thought
Speaker 9: there were cool, like you know, yeah fighters.
Speaker 7: During that And look, I'm not saying I know for
Speaker 7: sure that there are not, But it's just a thing
Speaker 7: where it's like it's not from what I read about
Speaker 7: like the private fire services that exist. It's not like
Speaker 7: a uber for firefighters. It's more like a service that
Speaker 7: you have worked with for years or.
Speaker 1: It's not a last second you can't cram it as
Speaker 1: the fire is closing in on your home.
Speaker 8: You can't yo fire fighters. Oh yeah, I guess there's right.
Speaker 7: There are planes that you can hire, but the general
Speaker 7: firefighting I think is like part of like, you know,
Speaker 7: a service that you've had. I've I heard it described
Speaker 7: as like a lot of it was honestly landscaping advice.
Speaker 7: Like it's just like you know, you're you're you're maintaining
Speaker 7: a house that can be saved in the event of
Speaker 7: a fire rather than just like Blackwater but for firefighters.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that is a movie starring Mark Wahlberg that
Speaker 1: is going to be made because of this tragedy. That
Speaker 1: that is one outcome that I can foresee is like
Speaker 1: a person facing down wildfire season and they're like, we
Speaker 1: got to call in the fizz or whatever, just.
Speaker 9: Shit face drunk in like Quincy, Massachusetts, turns on the
Speaker 9: news cease fire and then yeah that Logan Airport on
Speaker 9: a Jet Blue flight to La Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know where Mark Wahlberg was this week,
Speaker 1: but Victor suproducer Victor points out that if he was here,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have gone down the way it was. Fucking
Speaker 1: sure it.
Speaker 8: Would have punched that fire right out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: But yeah, which is not to say that there's not
Speaker 7: like resources to be marshaled, but like the best way
Speaker 7: to spend you know, this money is on things like
Speaker 7: taxes and an appropriate city budget that funds the Los
Speaker 7: Angeles Fire Department or whatever fire department you're in.
Speaker 8: Yes, like it or not, we're all on some level
Speaker 8: in this together.
Speaker 1: Yes, I do just want to like firefighters. I think
Speaker 1: they come into the national spotlight every once in a while,
Speaker 1: and when they do, it's not like the cup where
Speaker 1: we're just like, wait, why the fuck do we have
Speaker 1: these guys anything, like these guys are fucking terrible, Like
Speaker 1: it's uh, you kind of get reminded why everybody wants
Speaker 1: to fuck them and uh and why Like if you
Speaker 1: have to give a movie character a heroic job, you
Speaker 1: go with firefight, Like to give this guy a calendar. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't care what he looks like, turn him into
Speaker 1: Jack Off material. But there was I don't know, like
Speaker 1: I'm probably in the midst of you know, of just
Speaker 1: this story, but like there was the equivalent of an
Speaker 1: NBA like highlight a fire. Helicopter just dropped a swimming
Speaker 1: pool of water on a fire that was like spreading
Speaker 1: out of the Hollywood Hills. It was literally like everybody,
Speaker 1: it's you know, fairly close to where we live, and
Speaker 1: like all our neighbors were like, holy shit, like here
Speaker 1: comes the one that's gonna and this. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think this single handedly stopped it, but like a helicopter
Speaker 1: dropped a swimming pool of water on a fire and
Speaker 1: it just fucking went out like the It was like
Speaker 1: swish from way downtown. I was like, holy shit.
Speaker 7: Without getting too dark, I saw I don't know, blue sky.
Speaker 7: I guess the comment threat underneath it was like like
Speaker 7: you know various things that you could yell when you
Speaker 7: when you make a great shot in basketball. And someone
Speaker 7: was like, you know that pilot was yelling Kobe.
Speaker 8: And then people pointing out.
Speaker 9: Scream yeah, I'm zooming in on the photo of the helicopter.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, that's Mark Wahlberg flying that bird.
Speaker 1: Hey you know he wouldn't tell anybody if he did.
Speaker 1: He's just like a humble.
Speaker 3: By.
Speaker 9: The helicopter is just a fancy drone. So I just
Speaker 9: want to say that as a Jersey person, I saw
Speaker 9: a copter and I wanted to shoot it down.
Speaker 1: Then is that thing doing up there? I started spinning it.
Speaker 1: I was spinning at the sky. New Jersey people would
Speaker 1: be freaked out by l a man lord aliens. So
Speaker 1: I've been kind of like glued to this coverage. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, our kids are out of school. Uh so
Speaker 1: we're just you know.
Speaker 7: I had a friend who had school yesterday, which is
Speaker 7: also insane.
Speaker 1: Really God, but you know, glued to the fire. I
Speaker 1: see fire maps when I close my eyes now, like
Speaker 1: the varying colors which Andrew you were pointing out before.
Speaker 7: I do have a note for the listen. I understand
Speaker 7: fire watch app wonderful service. People have been really enjoying it.
Speaker 8: Watch duty.
Speaker 7: We'll say there, U I bright red fire makes sense,
Speaker 7: dark magentaish or dark pink. Let's say fire warning, yellow
Speaker 7: fire whatever, the equivalent of tornado watches.
Speaker 8: It's like, you'll be ready to be evacuated, but.
Speaker 7: Then they just have a you're in a dry fire
Speaker 7: prone area and that's like a different shade of pink,
Speaker 7: which is very alarming. And get the map, yeah, because
Speaker 7: you're like, yeah, I guess the other one's orange. The
Speaker 7: point is the gradations of danger go from red dark pink, yellow,
Speaker 7: and then least dangerous is light pink, which I think
Speaker 7: is bad UI.
Speaker 8: On a personal level, we.
Speaker 1: All agree that it should be like yellow, orange, red,
Speaker 1: and some like grading it in there right like that
Speaker 1: that's my pitch. That's what they're doing inherent. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: are doing a great job. Also, like my eight year
Speaker 1: old is like addicted to that app now, like he
Speaker 1: just we were like he's like scrolling it and like obsessed.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, one of the It's different where in La,
Speaker 9: we had like an earthquake kit in our place because
Speaker 9: I love for the listeners. I live in LA for
Speaker 9: ten years and it's one of the only it's the
Speaker 9: only place I've ever lived where I had an emergency
Speaker 9: kit basicly go bag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I could.
Speaker 9: Go bag, which isn't necessarily you know, like there are
Speaker 9: obviously situations in other places where you could need that.
Speaker 9: But I remember having like earthquake water, Like we would
Speaker 9: always have like a case of water somewhere and then
Speaker 9: we would get thirsty on our way out and grab
Speaker 9: the water, so we just wouldn't have any water. Yeah,
Speaker 9: is this something that you like, Do you guys have
Speaker 9: earthquake kits? Like I know, like some of you have
Speaker 9: packed up I was talking to yeah before.
Speaker 7: Yeah, mine's not freshened up since the last time. I
Speaker 7: probably put in the big work to do it in
Speaker 7: twenty twenty, Like I think my cube of water cannot
Speaker 7: possibly be good. I will say before that I did
Speaker 7: have an earthquake kit that was based on gallons of
Speaker 7: water and being hungover in my late twenties early thirties.
Speaker 8: The fact that I like.
Speaker 7: Drank my earthquake water really says something about America. I
Speaker 7: think because I was too hot. But yeah, I got
Speaker 7: the cube that's allegedly non toxic.
Speaker 8: But there's just no way. The Cube's been there for
Speaker 8: like four years. It can't be good.
Speaker 1: It's earthquake diet coke. Yeah, I've got a twelve pack
Speaker 1: of ye coke for what lukewarm diet coke from the
Speaker 1: early dies What the cube is like a separate It's
Speaker 1: not just like a two gallon thing of arrow.
Speaker 7: Oh, I mean it's it's it's like a water container
Speaker 7: that someone recommended.
Speaker 1: That's like, okay, the square. You can see a square.
Speaker 8: Everyone can see a square.
Speaker 1: Can't can't Now you've lost tell.
Speaker 9: You about spears afterwards, and you're gonna flip that.
Speaker 1: Wait, so you're talking about like a third dimension. That's
Speaker 1: I'm not you.
Speaker 8: Know what doesn't make sense to people would say that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was watching this press conference yesterday and
Speaker 1: it just really drove home the thing we were talking
Speaker 1: about about the police, Like the police are coming into
Speaker 1: this in a couple of ways. One because people noticed
Speaker 1: that the firefighting budget was cut a small amount last year.
Speaker 1: You know, like people who are defensive or you know,
Speaker 1: hate the Republicans are like the Republican are making this
Speaker 1: seem like they slashed the entire budget. It was, you know,
Speaker 1: a two percent budget cut. Fine, they also like massively
Speaker 1: increased the police budget as crime is going down and
Speaker 1: the fire the danger of fire is going up. And
Speaker 1: it's not specific politicians fault. It's the entire American apparatus
Speaker 1: that does this. But I was actually this press conference yesterday.
Speaker 1: It was like the Pasadena fire chief and then police chief,
Speaker 1: and just the rhythm of this press conference was so wild,
Speaker 1: Like they first half it's the fire chief. He's just
Speaker 1: this weird little guy, just answering difficult questions, like here's
Speaker 1: why it's spread. Here are the challenges we faced. Here
Speaker 1: are where like we could have done better. Here, here's
Speaker 1: what's still going on, like ending his answers with like,
Speaker 1: did that answer your question? And like it seemed genuinely
Speaker 1: curious about whether it had like not a genius, nothing
Speaker 1: particularly noteworthy, just a person doing doing the job that
Speaker 1: they have at a difficult time when people like not
Speaker 1: a job speaker, not a public speaker in any way.
Speaker 1: Then they give the next part of the press conference
Speaker 1: to the police chief and he like opens up like
Speaker 1: bragging about individual people that they had evacuated from their homes,
Speaker 1: like just having to like just flex on everybody, and
Speaker 1: then started talking about and he's like, and now we're
Speaker 1: moving into the problem solving situation where we're gonna deal
Speaker 1: with anybody who's looting, and like starts seating this like
Speaker 1: looting story. By the way, could a better funded fire
Speaker 1: department have done the evacuations?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who's to say.
Speaker 7: There's the thing with like we're watching the argument for
Speaker 7: defund the police, Like literally, even if you're the most
Speaker 7: like conservative, non maniac possible who thinks we need some
Speaker 7: kind of police, like, most of the money that goes
Speaker 7: to the police is the least efficient way to do
Speaker 7: those job descriptions like the non fucking law enforcement allegedly
Speaker 7: side of things.
Speaker 8: You're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 7: You you got in like the cops having five times
Speaker 7: more budget or more than the than the fire department.
Speaker 7: But talking on a retail level about helping individuals versus
Speaker 7: people try to help communities. Several orders of magnitude in
Speaker 7: both the wrong direction. Yes, so this is just a
Speaker 7: bad investment, you fucking business dickheads, Like, yeah, explain that exactly.
Speaker 9: Well, the police, there are, there are teachers, there are doctors,
Speaker 9: and there are firemen.
Speaker 1: Police are our firemen. Yes, exactly, there are doctors, there
Speaker 1: are wives, there are firemen.
Speaker 7: It's just an expensive, least effective version of all those things.
Speaker 8: Yeah, why would you want that?
Speaker 1: And then the second half of the police part was
Speaker 1: just the most fired is going to incrutable. Essentially the
Speaker 1: verbal equivalent of firing is gun in the air with
Speaker 1: the like inscrutable police speak about the possibility of looters
Speaker 1: where they're just like, uh, and we just got one
Speaker 1: message for you, don't even try it. We're now shifting
Speaker 1: into the safety operation where we will be on the
Speaker 1: lookout for looters. Make no mistake, we will act decisively
Speaker 1: and with definitive kinetic means in the eventuality that we
Speaker 1: you know, just like throwing all those fucking bullshit police
Speaker 1: worth any individual perpetrating such criminal activity for the fullest
Speaker 1: extent of the law. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7: Shit not to invoke you know, previous week's biggest story,
Speaker 7: but the biggest theft that will be occurring in southern
Speaker 7: California will be on behalf.
Speaker 8: Of insurance companies.
Speaker 7: Oh, we have already stolen tons of money and will
Speaker 7: not be paying out on things that they owe.
Speaker 8: That is oh yeah, my prediction.
Speaker 1: My prediction is that that they are going to be
Speaker 1: going bankrupt and it's going to be up to the
Speaker 1: government to yeah that there as all people's yeah, which
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: People will simply not be made whole on the things
Speaker 7: that are absolutely owed, which I feel like is likely anyway.
Speaker 7: And if you're thinking about theft Californians and the globe,
Speaker 7: just remember the theft already happened, and it's a bunch
Speaker 7: of guys in board rooms.
Speaker 1: Two nights into many homes across the city being evacuated,
Speaker 1: and the police the reporting they've encountered three instances of looting,
Speaker 1: I think, and by the way, they give themselves a
Speaker 1: very wide latitude when determined something is looting.
Speaker 9: So someone picked a quarter up off the ground, and yeah,
Speaker 9: so they were looting the ground.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we saw they're looting our city. The very
Speaker 1: foundation of our city is our grounds. It's our ground. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that is true, and you can't you can't deny
Speaker 1: that and we're not taking questions and we will take
Speaker 1: no for the answers at this time. Let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back,
Speaker 1: and we are ten days out, nine days out from
Speaker 1: the Academy Awards being announced on January seventeenth. One movie
Speaker 1: that definitely won't get nominated for Best Picture is Madam Web.
Speaker 1: It's a fun movie. Yeah.
Speaker 7: It's also the best of those Spider Man movies that
Speaker 7: got put out this year.
Speaker 1: No, the the other ones, craveh Venom three.
Speaker 7: Okay, I guess my Craven is the quote unquote best,
Speaker 7: but Madam Web is the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think that Madam Web.
Speaker 6: It's just like what's so fun about Madam Web is
Speaker 6: it's basically watching people take the biggest possible swings on
Speaker 6: screen and just like whiffing it every single time. Like
Speaker 6: it's just like a like get get together with your
Speaker 6: friends and watch it on like a Saturday night.
Speaker 1: It's like a fun watch.
Speaker 8: I really liked it. I really liked watching it. I
Speaker 8: had a lot of fun.
Speaker 7: I there's some bizarre cg in it that is like
Speaker 7: truly delightful.
Speaker 1: You're just like the adr is insane.
Speaker 7: The thing that is so cre Having now worked in
Speaker 7: a little bit of television, I'm just like, how is
Speaker 7: this allowed? Like how did this get approved to be
Speaker 7: like put in theaters? Just in terms of pieces of
Speaker 7: the craft, I'm just like, this is wild to me.
Speaker 7: The star of Madame Web to me was the pepsi can.
Speaker 7: There's a floating PEPs in it. That's so amazing.
Speaker 6: Several scenes of a pepsi can that that Matt trying.
Speaker 1: To pepsi can? Was that like she had it but
Speaker 1: like never drank at it? What was the deal with
Speaker 1: the pepsi can? I just like saw that meme without
Speaker 1: volume on, so I don't know what it is.
Speaker 6: So she's at a baby shower for a car spider.
Speaker 6: It's a carry baby shower for Peter Parker, but for
Speaker 6: probably sony legal reasons, they can't say Peter Parker. There's
Speaker 6: literally a point in this sequence where they say like, oh,
Speaker 6: what's the baby's name, and then she goes to say Peter,
Speaker 6: and then a car honks. You can't hear Peter. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: this is all real. This really like Parker? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: one hundred percent.
Speaker 7: It's like Austin Powers didn't realize he didn't have the
Speaker 7: rights to Spider Man, but still has to produce a movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So so this pepsican it's at you know, car
Speaker 6: Honk Parker's baby shower, and the lead in the movie
Speaker 6: is carrying this pepsi can around. I'm definitely presenting it,
Speaker 6: like clearly they have some brand deal with pepsi, but
Speaker 6: at no point does she open it. And she like
Speaker 6: goes to try to open it several times, but then
Speaker 6: she'll get interrupted like inner conversation, and it's like son
Speaker 6: roll scenes of this. It's like she goes from the
Speaker 6: kitchen to the outside to like another area holding this
Speaker 6: pepsi can, displaying it like it's a commercial, going to
Speaker 6: like act like she's about to open it and then
Speaker 6: stopping because she like gets distracted by a bird or
Speaker 6: something like that, and going, well.
Speaker 1: They won't say of our modern cinemat Yeah.
Speaker 7: I feel like it's genuinely they just caught Dakota Johnson
Speaker 7: trying to figure out what a can of pepsi was,
Speaker 7: and that's what it was.
Speaker 6: So something I also really appreciate is that in the
Speaker 6: movie they established that Spider Man's outfit is inspired by
Speaker 6: this outfit from like an unnamed indigenous tribe and I
Speaker 6: believe like South America or something like that. So by
Speaker 6: saying that, you're basically saying that Spider Man is like
Speaker 6: a culturally appropriating this tribe.
Speaker 8: That's right.
Speaker 6: So you're like attractively making Spider Man racist, which is great.
Speaker 1: At least they didn't do the Back to the Future
Speaker 1: thing where the indigenous tribe was hoppying off of Spider Man,
Speaker 1: because that's how Back the Future worst, where Marty McFly
Speaker 1: white teenage Marty McFly goes back in time and gives
Speaker 1: Chuck Berry the idea for Rock and Roll.
Speaker 7: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, so probably what happened.
Speaker 1: So maybe, yeah, but that that is the the famous
Speaker 1: quote of like the guy who was there before my
Speaker 1: mom died and when she was studying spiders in.
Speaker 8: Oh god, so wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyways, none of these are the reasons that it
Speaker 1: won't be winning Best Picture because in order to be included,
Speaker 1: you need to meet Hollywood's inclusion and representation standards, which
Speaker 1: are they've been criticized for being like very loose and
Speaker 1: you know, things that you could just accidentally do while
Speaker 1: still like not having an inclusion and representation in your film.
Speaker 1: But these Madam Web, and one hundred and sixteen other
Speaker 1: feature films were released this year did not meet the
Speaker 1: rules did not meet the standard, including Bad Boys, Ride
Speaker 1: or Die, The Mean Girls Musical, and Sadly the Garfield Movie.
Speaker 7: Is this list of rules for quote diversity inclusion like
Speaker 7: Hollywood diversity inclusion, as in, they're just saying this needs
Speaker 7: to have people of color or.
Speaker 1: It's so these are the four categories, and you have
Speaker 1: to meet two out of the four standards on screen representation,
Speaker 1: themes and narratives, creative leadership, and project team. So that's
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, presumably, industry access and opportunities, and audience
Speaker 1: development on this development.
Speaker 6: Mate, So could this podcast be nominated for Best Picture?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: It's a great well, yeah, obviously, yeah, the rules for
Speaker 7: anything that's as perfect as this. I mean not to
Speaker 7: be the Madame Web apologist that I clearly am, but
Speaker 7: I actually don't see how it does it. I mean,
Speaker 7: assuming that Hollywood, like most American industries, counts white women
Speaker 7: as you know, a group in the diversity requirement, I'm
Speaker 7: just like, is Madame Web not all of these things?
Speaker 6: I guess it's probably behind the scenes, is probably pretty
Speaker 6: straight white dude.
Speaker 1: But that's just kind of my guests.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I'm just saying the creative the I mean,
Speaker 8: the lead.
Speaker 7: I'm assuming Dakoda Dotson was an EP on this, Like
Speaker 7: am I am?
Speaker 8: I Am I wrong? Like it just feels like it's there.
Speaker 1: Seems like it probably passes the Bechdel test, right, so it.
Speaker 7: Depends on They're mostly talking about spiders, so they're talking Yeah,
Speaker 7: I think it's a spider Man.
Speaker 1: Shit. It does feel like maybe what's happening is they
Speaker 1: will go through the exercise of like making a movie
Speaker 1: eligible if they think it has any award chances, because
Speaker 1: like another one that didn't make it this year, Harold
Speaker 1: and the Purple Crown. So it's Boy Kills World? Is
Speaker 1: that a sequel to Boy Meets World?
Speaker 8: I don't know that Kills World does thee.
Speaker 7: Uh it's the The Count orlock first person one with
Speaker 7: John Benjamin as the voice in like a that's a
Speaker 7: shootery type of thing that I did not see.
Speaker 1: Okay. I think it's just like they like probably hire
Speaker 1: a spend spend like a million dollars to hire McKinsey
Speaker 1: to like if they think it has a chance, like
Speaker 1: making being nominated.
Speaker 7: Sony couldn't argue that Madame Webb does these things. And
Speaker 7: I'm also shocked that I'm gonna say, just off the
Speaker 7: top of my head, illumination could argue that Garth the
Speaker 7: Garfield movie didn't also do these things.
Speaker 6: Look, look, people of color. Orange is of color. I'm
Speaker 6: just saying, that's.
Speaker 7: Right, that's right, casts that's right, Odie, wherever the fuck
Speaker 7: Odie is.
Speaker 6: There's like that movie probably I feel like I don't
Speaker 6: know this for a fact, but I feel like there's
Speaker 6: probably seeing that movie where Garfield's girlfriend Arlene and a
Speaker 6: female security guard talk about lasagna for more than four lines.
Speaker 1: So, like, you know, I think this probably passes the
Speaker 1: Bechdel test. The Bechdel test is not one of the standards,
Speaker 1: by the way. That was just me.
Speaker 8: We're just throwing this out there, you know, we're just starting.
Speaker 1: We put us in charge, Hollywood. We'll let everybody in,
Speaker 1: all right. And finally, sex spots are going a little
Speaker 1: bit viral right now thanks to this article from the
Speaker 1: Sun back in twenty sixteen. Then somebody went back and
Speaker 1: screen capped it was tweeted out revealed women will be
Speaker 1: having more sex with robots than men by twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: came out June thirtieth, twenty sixteen, is accompanied by a
Speaker 1: picture of a like robot from Yeah well roby I robot.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, the I robot robot just like laying there
Speaker 1: looking off pensively as a naked woman like nuzzles his chest.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the robot is thinking about the price of microchips
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 8: What weird day at the photoshop minds?
Speaker 6: I know, Yeah, photoshop woman having sex with a robot
Speaker 6: and the robot does have emotions and is not into this,
Speaker 6: you know what.
Speaker 7: Probably the weirder part is the graphic designer having to
Speaker 7: pretend to mock something up rather than pulling from their
Speaker 7: vast files.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, it is kind of that's the picture.
Speaker 8: Yeah, let me let me get right to see take
Speaker 8: a couple of days.
Speaker 6: Yet like a flip into personal stash robots. I also
Speaker 6: loved it in this article the word of robots is
Speaker 6: an all caps that's like they're yelling at at you.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: More sex with robots than men by twenty twenty five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this person's got an ax to grind with robots.
Speaker 8: Not to be not to be that guy.
Speaker 7: But probably even before twenty twenty five, when you realize
Speaker 7: this is this article is implying inferring that women will
Speaker 7: be having sex with androids, you know, humanoid robots, sex bots.
Speaker 7: I think that probably the definition of robot probably goes
Speaker 7: down to including a decent number of existing commercial products
Speaker 7: that are out on the market now in terms of sex.
Speaker 1: Havn't that's why everyone look that hot and pensive. Well,
Speaker 1: you nuzzle its chest, because that's the that's I'm just saying.
Speaker 7: If you draw a frownie face on a vibrator, you
Speaker 7: kind of robot said face vibrator.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. So people start sharing this
Speaker 1: when January first hit, and you know, people crowned twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five the Year of robot. Fucking uh the headline,
Speaker 1: And this is going to surprise people because this article
Speaker 1: is from the Sun, which is, you know, one of
Speaker 1: the finest news.
Speaker 8: Outlets in one of the Murdoch ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Sun is one of the one one of
Speaker 1: the Murdoch ones that uh, I was shower of the
Speaker 1: Murdock ones. Yeah, really bad. Like also like nude pictures
Speaker 1: of women in it. Like there's just a page that's like,
Speaker 1: oh and this is the so you got your sports section,
Speaker 1: you got your World news section, you got your Playboy
Speaker 1: like magazine that we just became news. You know.
Speaker 8: It's basically just you know, a broadsheet Reddit.
Speaker 1: It is, That's right. So it cites one future ologist,
Speaker 1: doctor Ian Pearson, who said that there was probably going
Speaker 1: to be an era of robot fucking that starts in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and that humans won't be overtaken by
Speaker 1: sex robots until likely twenty fifty. But he and he's
Speaker 1: he's pissed that this is going viral. So I never
Speaker 1: said that. I said that. Like he specifically says in
Speaker 1: his abstract that like it'll probably seem weird at first,
Speaker 1: and like he's going to be doing it five until
Speaker 1: it becomes delightful.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, I does no one do.
Speaker 7: We're just not questioning anyone who calls themselves a fucking
Speaker 7: future ologist. Has any one of those fools ever been
Speaker 7: right about anything.
Speaker 6: That you're gonna say? Has any of those fools ever
Speaker 6: been to the future?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly where are they from?
Speaker 7: There?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 7: All these fuckers are doing is across a broad spectrum
Speaker 7: of people parroting sci fi tropes, and then they each
Speaker 7: put a different year, so that retroactively, one of them
Speaker 7: will get the right year and then they can the
Speaker 7: field of future ology.
Speaker 8: Is correct, right, it's like fortune teller grift.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean yeah, well that's that's like one hundred percent.
Speaker 6: It is like it's like the click baitization of the
Speaker 6: news is like it's not even focused on like is
Speaker 6: this person an expert or not? It's just is this
Speaker 6: a clickable headline? And it's like, yeah, does this person
Speaker 6: have any sort of real background in this or are
Speaker 6: they just like making up bullshit? And people are like,
Speaker 6: well that's spicy, you know, like it's annoying.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, fan sourcing the news now, yeah, it's all
Speaker 1: like fan fiction at this point. Like I can't get
Speaker 1: over the new Jersey drones thing going as viral as
Speaker 1: it did. But it just seemed like people are like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's like kind of boring right now. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So the company that is the closest to making the
Speaker 1: sex robot, so, first of all, you're going to be
Speaker 1: shocked to learn that the actual sex robot industry in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five is more of a by dudes for
Speaker 1: dudes type of thing, Like a lot of straight men
Speaker 1: with disposable income, and that it's like a very insular
Speaker 1: community where they all probably have like weird shorthand, Like
Speaker 1: you could probably go spend a fascinating afternoon like in
Speaker 1: a red subreddit about like you know, sex doll enthusiasts
Speaker 1: and just like learning all the lingo and shot right now,
Speaker 1: treat yourself subreddit and just take a day. The highest
Speaker 1: end or like the the closest to a you know,
Speaker 1: android level sex robot can't even stand up because the
Speaker 1: only robotic bit is her head. As it's a it's
Speaker 1: a woman. As our writer J M McNabb said, it
Speaker 1: kind of looks like a collaboration between Maxim magazine and
Speaker 1: Disney World's Hall of Presidence. Like that's kind of the
Speaker 1: energy that you're getting from. It's just all very yeah,
Speaker 1: not a lot of diversity. It's just a bunch of
Speaker 1: fifty to sixty year old white guys being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you could fuck a Barbie doll.
Speaker 7: I mean that's like the classic Silicon Valley thing, which
Speaker 7: is you're just seeing in the most extreme version, which
Speaker 7: is like creating a product and a fake market that
Speaker 7: doesn't exist.
Speaker 8: You're just like, yeah, there's no need for this. Yeah,
Speaker 8: there's I hate these people so much.
Speaker 6: But it's also like creating a product that's like actively
Speaker 6: making the world worse.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 8: Can I How can I make the world worse?
Speaker 7: Full the venture capitalists until they have they're pot committed,
Speaker 7: so they have to back my cockamamy idea. I mean
Speaker 7: it's you know, that's the uber lyft Yeah for sure,
Speaker 7: a waimo business model.
Speaker 8: And it's like, oh good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, just like ear you'ar in for several million dollars,
Speaker 6: let's go. You can't know backing out now.
Speaker 1: Brian the editor just shared the link to our sex dolls,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it looks like you can spend a lot
Speaker 1: of time in here just being weirded out.
Speaker 8: All right, I'm fucking clicking now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our sex dolls off. Here's good grade fun one favorite.
Speaker 1: Thank you Trian found my favorite one for me. I
Speaker 1: mean the rules. The very first rule is no dolls
Speaker 1: that represented child, which is fucking bleak as hell that
Speaker 1: that has to be the very first rule.
Speaker 7: I will just say my favorite question from this and
Speaker 7: I am realizing I guess I clicked this. I am
Speaker 7: absolutely signed in under my own Reddit account. Are these
Speaker 7: dolls sex dolls legal? Okay whatever. The second half of
Speaker 7: this question is will this doll pass customs, which tells.
Speaker 1: Me, h, this is also really good. How can you
Speaker 1: dispose of dolls discreetly? And the first sentence of the
Speaker 1: answer you should be able to cut it into smaller
Speaker 1: pieces if you have a wrench or other tools to
Speaker 1: symbol the skeleton underneath as well. It might just be
Speaker 1: easier to put it out for sale. Put it out
Speaker 1: for sale like in a fucking yard sale or giveaway
Speaker 1: on dollform dot com. Uh. Used sex doll is goddamn.
Speaker 1: What a weird interaction that must be to show up
Speaker 1: at somebody's house and buy their used sex doll, like
Speaker 1: hear them refer to it, but like it's a person.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh this is I'm loving being signed in on
Speaker 7: my account here.
Speaker 8: This is great. I would you?
Speaker 7: Should you dispose of the sex doll discreetly at all?
Speaker 1: I feel like crowd.
Speaker 7: You should absolutely sit it on the curb next to
Speaker 7: your trash can, a little.
Speaker 8: Sign around invariably hernack saying like.
Speaker 6: Just trade its thumbs so it looks like it's like, yeah,
Speaker 6: how do.
Speaker 1: You clean the orifice after use? Is one of the questions,
Speaker 1: these are all things that we can go check out, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, whenever we want.
Speaker 8: This is if there was any justice in the world.
Speaker 7: Were able to read about this in the Sun, right,
Speaker 7: we have to go to our slash sex dolls?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Sun got too too excited, were able to
Speaker 1: dolls soon? Yeah?
Speaker 7: But also this this idea, like like the scary headline
Speaker 7: of women will be having more sexual with robots, you know,
Speaker 7: obviously from a right wing mag is probably troubling. Yeah,
Speaker 7: scary thing, Like, yeah, all the actual facts are about
Speaker 7: no woman is remotely interested in this.
Speaker 8: There's no market for this.
Speaker 7: The only market is again, you know, probably the same
Speaker 7: two hundred white guys that you can identify.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly they So they spoke to
Speaker 1: a non future. By the way, the futurist. The futuist
Speaker 1: they talked to was like, I never said that. That's crazy,
Speaker 1: Like you just obviously took what I was saying out
Speaker 1: of context. But they asked somebody who has more of
Speaker 1: a expertise on this and said that it's a complex
Speaker 1: issue with a number of different considerations, but sex robots
Speaker 1: probably may never really be a thing, even if they're produced,
Speaker 1: they will remain a niche product and mostly used for companionship,
Speaker 1: with sex almost secondary to that which we're already seeing
Speaker 1: like AIS being used to help people's loneliness, and like
Speaker 1: the way we interact with actual people is not face
Speaker 1: to face and in person, so like, why spend all
Speaker 1: the money on you know these things cost an incredible
Speaker 1: amount of money? Ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got to say our sex dollars. There's a
Speaker 6: eighty seven thousand members of the subreddit thirteen online now,
Speaker 6: so shout out to those thirteen dudes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is more than I would have thought though,
Speaker 1: eighty seven thousand, and maybe it's people doing it for
Speaker 1: the ULLs.
Speaker 8: But yeah, closing that and back to regular sex dollstock.
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