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Speaker 2: Bett three six five. I am Chad Millman, chief Content

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Speaker 2: Officer of the Action Network. On earlier this week, we

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Speaker 2: broke down the NFC what we like about acquisition season

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Speaker 2: for NFC teams, what we don't like? Who moved ahead,

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Speaker 2: Today we're doing it for the AFC. Me and my bff,

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Speaker 1: Oh so I'm in Hello Chad. How you doing, brother?

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Speaker 2: price gear run ted Simon. The draft was two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers had the number one overall pick. Houston Texans

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Speaker 2: had picks number two and three. Houston Texans' win total

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Speaker 2: right now is about four and a half at bet

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Speaker 2: three six five frame. For me, is there a team

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Speaker 2: in the AFC that you would say has done themselves

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Speaker 1: I would say no, just because like AFC to me,

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Speaker 1: is gonna be the most fun this year, just because

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Speaker 1: they have all the star power, which the star power,

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, they have all the big names. I mean,

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Speaker 1: every weekend we're gonna have really good matchups. It's truly

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Speaker 1: Again people say this all the time, but it's really true.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we're in a golden ajor quarterback. It's just

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Speaker 1: we lost the old guard, right the Brady's, the Breeze,

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Speaker 1: the Payton Mannings they left. There was a worry there

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be another group to step in. And it feels

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Speaker 1: like seamlessly the AFC is just fully on, full on reloaded.

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Speaker 1: I mean just to the top, the Josh Allen, the

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, the Mahomes, like those three, knowing that they're

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Speaker 2: Now chat for the execle Listen, listen, you're totally right.

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Speaker 2: Look at this uh to win the AFC title at

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Speaker 2: bet three sixty five Chiefs plus three fifty. Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: plus five hundred, Joe Burrow, New York Jets plus six fifty.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers Ravens eleven to one, Lamar Jackson Chargers twelve

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Speaker 2: to one, Justin Herbert Jags sixteen to one, Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 2: who came back from a thousand points down to beat

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert in the playoffs last year, Bully for US

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Speaker 2: Dolphins and Tua Taga Viola by Loa Tua. Let's just

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Speaker 2: say Tua twenty to one. Then the Cleveland Browns with

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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, who who knows? Does he revert to form

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Speaker 2: at twenty to one? Like all of the players on

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Speaker 2: that list.

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Speaker 1: You missed one. I was gonna say, keep going, you're

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Speaker 1: about to get the team. I was gonna say it

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Speaker 1: was my biggest, biggest winner from.

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Speaker 2: This solver Broncos twenty to one. Rights they are so

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Speaker 2: by the way, look at this hold on. Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, Josh Allen on the path like MVP caliber,

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Speaker 2: obviously all pro pro bow caliber.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get more awards.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati, Joe Burrow certainly on the path to Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: New York Jets obviously, Lamar Jackson MVP. I think the

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Speaker 2: jury's out. How great for how long he can be?

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence same great second year. Not getting over excited

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Speaker 2: to questionable Deshaun Watson. He was a perennial MVP before

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Speaker 2: before the stuff that happened in Houston, and Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: super Bowl champ like perennial winner until last year. So

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Speaker 2: that conference is stacked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's absolutely wild. That's why we saw

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Speaker 1: you know, the Tennessee Titans, the Colts, Houston all trying

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Speaker 1: to move up to get a quarterback, because that's the

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Speaker 1: move now for you're the AFC. You don't want a

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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. You need one of these all star guys.

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Speaker 1: You need a true game changer. So the NFC, all

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Speaker 1: those team the NFC are just so lucky. They're just

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Speaker 1: so lucky that these really really high leveled, young talented

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the AFC. Just because what you just went

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Speaker 1: through there, Chad. It's like, you know, we saw Brady

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Speaker 1: just have a twenty two year career. If any of

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Speaker 1: these guys, Mahomes, the Josh Allens, the you know, all

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Speaker 1: these guys, even Lamar, these guys can put together a

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Speaker 1: good ten to fifteen years, you hit a Jackbot. So

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Speaker 1: it really is a wild timer living where. You know.

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Speaker 1: Chad just mentioned Denver to me they won the offseason

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Speaker 1: by getting Sean Payton. I think going from what they

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Speaker 1: have now, it's truly incredible because if you go back

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Speaker 1: all the players, all the talent, to really win games.

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Speaker 1: They just have the coaching. So to me, that's the

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Speaker 1: team that won the biggest this offseat. I just think

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, whatever is left to Russell Wilson, he's going

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Speaker 1: to get the best out of them, and he's not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie the guy like he's not gonna let him

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Speaker 1: have his own office, their own parking space. Be the guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, high in this throne above everyone else in

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Speaker 1: Denver that's gone now right that felt like that I

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Speaker 1: winners right now is Denver in the division that they

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Speaker 1: just won't be talking about. Everyone's gonna be still talking

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Speaker 1: about homes, They're still gonna be talking about the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Those are the teams that people care about where Denver.

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Speaker 1: That team is the big winner this offseason. Of they

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Speaker 1: don't lose that much talent on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. They've approved slightly on offensive. And then they

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Speaker 1: got Chompayton, which I think is a top five, top

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Speaker 2: Six teams right now at BET three six five have

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Speaker 2: double digit season win totals. Four of them are in

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Speaker 2: the NFC. The two A I mean in the AFC,

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Speaker 2: the two NFC teams, Eagles and Niners. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: the Eagles are ten and a half and the Niners

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Speaker 2: are at eleven and a half. In the AFC, it

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Speaker 2: is do you want me to tell you or do

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Speaker 2: you think you can guess for what win totals? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the four teams with double digit win totals, Well.

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Speaker 1: I would say, I know since I know Jags, Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: guessing those are over ten and a half or ten.

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Speaker 2: Yep, those are the four. So of those four you've

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Speaker 2: already told me you're taking since the under ten and

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Speaker 2: a half. Completely agree, Jags over under ten and a half.

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Speaker 1: I need to see schedule because I got him at

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Speaker 1: ten wins, so I would say I leaned towards the

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Speaker 1: under for them, but I need to see the schedule

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Speaker 1: first before I make a pick on that. But lean under.

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Speaker 2: Bengals are at eleven and a half. By the way,

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Speaker 2: that's why you're going with the under the bill.

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Speaker 1: And what I think is the best division of football.

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Speaker 2: Yes, completely agree, And we'll get to the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 2: which would have been my team for the Seattle version

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Speaker 2: of the AFC of the AFC's version of Seattle, whatever

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Speaker 2: it is. Buffalo Bills at ten and a half.

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Speaker 1: Too much, man, it's just that division is good. New

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Speaker 1: England's the worst team that division. New England had a

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Speaker 1: down year last year. I really expect them to bounce

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Speaker 1: back from what they did last year. Miami. I can't

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Speaker 1: get over how good they are on paper. That's what

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Speaker 1: I hate is when a team is so good on paper,

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Speaker 1: because it's like, all right, well, they got to do

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Speaker 1: it on the field. You expect regressing them from their offense. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's another year to study that offense they ran last year.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how it's gonna come to. Is

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Speaker 1: a really good quarterback when he's healthy and protected, to

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Speaker 1: what can make the throws when we have a weapon

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Speaker 1: like wad on Tyreek Hill. We talk all the time, Chad.

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Speaker 1: They're the kind of guys that takes one catch and

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Speaker 1: they're gone. And then the Jets, we already know the deal.

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Speaker 1: They got Aaron Rodgers, so I could see. I could

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Speaker 1: I think they'll be a really tough test for the

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Speaker 1: Bills team. So Bills, I still think They're a really

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Speaker 1: good teams. Still see them at being, you know, one

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Speaker 1: they're ten and a half. I think last year they

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Speaker 1: closed at twelve and a lot of books. It's just

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Speaker 1: different this year. They have a way better division. So

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Speaker 1: still expect the Bills to win that division. I sti't

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be as easy it's been these last

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Speaker 1: what two three years for them?

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Speaker 2: Kansas City eleven and a half.

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Speaker 1: You know what I want to do here, but I

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Speaker 1: can't do it. Of course, I want to take the under.

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Speaker 2: All got to take the under.

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Speaker 1: Can't do it. I can't. Mahomes has been good to me.

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Speaker 1: I always take his over, and he dislocated his kneecap

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Speaker 1: and he came back and still got his over win

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Speaker 1: totals for me and then won a Super Bowl. So

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Speaker 1: I can't do it. Yet. There's just certain guys. It's

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Speaker 1: like Brady effect, where if Brady won a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: I would fade him. Usually I stopped doing that when

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Speaker 1: he kept winning his governor his win totals. After he

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Speaker 1: won the super Bowl. It's just didn't matter. He was

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Speaker 1: just a machine. I feel the same way about Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes is a machine. It's like his brother's about to

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Speaker 1: go to jail. He doesn't seem too worried about it.

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Speaker 1: He was at three different parties this past week. I

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Speaker 1: saw him an F one some at the net Gala,

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Speaker 1: Like he's all over the place. He's just a cool dude.

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Speaker 1: He's just not worried about anything. So I can't go

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Speaker 1: It's just you can't teach what Mahomes does, which is

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Speaker 2: I think at some point, you talk about a team

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Speaker 2: you've just described. That is something to bet on, right,

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Speaker 1: I would say this last year was a very boring, straightforwardear,

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Speaker 1: People last year when I was telling you to bet

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Speaker 1: It's just neither of these teams got much weaker. The

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Speaker 1: on my homes. You've just been in this moment. He

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Speaker 2: So the question I have, which I think is more

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Speaker 2: more detail. I have some very specific thoughts that I

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Speaker 2: As soon as the Jets officially signed Aaron Rodgers, our

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Speaker 1: But to me, the Ravens Chad. That's why I usually

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Speaker 1: And we saw last year with Hurts. Hurts was a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting way to look at it. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was terrible, But again I put that on

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Speaker 1: lamark a break out of it. It's just I don't

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00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: want to be wasting my money waiting for him to

431
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: do it. Right. I'll catch up to when he gets there.

432
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: I can't keep chasing where me and you were all

433
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 1: over the Ravens actually we love them at twenty one

434
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: twenty two to one for the Super Bowl, and he

435
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: bit us in the ass with it. So I just

436
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: can't do it again this year.

437
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 2: The Ravens right now, by the way, are eleven to

438
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: one to win the AFC. At bet three six five,

439
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 2: they are twenty to one to win the Super Bowl.

440
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 2: I feel like the Ravens. It's almost like bookmakers tease.

441
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 2: I would say betters who live in the middle end

442
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: and the deep end of the pool. They know a

443
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: lot about betting, they know a lot about the NFL,

444
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: they know a lot about value, and so they always

445
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: put the Ravens in that twenty to one range, maybe

446
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 2: a little bit eighteen, maybe a little bit twenty two,

447
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 2: knowing that everyone who thinks they know about betting and

448
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: football will bet the Ravens in that way.

449
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: There.

450
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: It's right because think because you think there's value there,

451
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,959
Speaker 2: but they know what you know. Yeah, so there's no

452
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 2: value there. So it's like a little bit of a

453
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: just to save his account for the bookmakers.

454
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 1: True, you know what I mean.

455
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: I think I just figured it out. I finally figured

456
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 2: it out for the Ravens and we're getting played for fools.

457
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I didn't bet them this year

458
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: at twenty to one yet because and I feel better

459
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: about it. Yeah.

460
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: No, I hate it because I've been staring at it

461
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: ever since they started signing these guys. I'm just like, Okay,

462
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: they're good, Like we know they got the defense. I

463
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: think missed the last year is the offense. I pull

464
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: myself back. I'm like, this is what they want you

465
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: to think. As you said here in Ma Simon, don't

466
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: do it, and I'm like you, ty I. Luckily I

467
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: have not fired away on the Ravens yet.

468
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: Who do we think? Uh? Like the team that has

469
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: declined the most this offseason compared to the rest of

470
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 2: the conference.

471
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: And that's really tough with the AFC. I mean, like,

472
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: to me, a team that I just have zero faith

473
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: and I'm over there under is the Las Vegas Like

474
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: people are somebody for some reason liking them. They think

475
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 1: Jimmy g is gonna come in there, He's gonna be

476
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: better than Derek Carr was last year. I just don't

477
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: see it, you know, Grooden Maydock. They've ruined that team.

478
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: They wasted so many drafts and we've seen it time time,

479
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: and you have to build through a draft. You just

480
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: have to, because especially a team like them, as a

481
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: stupid owner like the owners on stupid things, it's not

482
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: gonna help that team where they they have so many holes.

483
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: So to me, Vegas seven and a half win total

484
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: eight at some books. I love that under I just

485
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: they're a team. I see a heavy rogressing, especially in

486
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: a division that I just told you I think Denver's

487
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: gonna be improved. Even Chargers stayed the same with the Chiefs.

488
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: I just think that's too much for them in that

489
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: division with Las Vegas. So I get it, you know,

490
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: Jimmy g that's funny, exciting. It's a different quarterback for them.

491
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: It just does nothing like him and Derek Carr. They're interchangeable, right,

492
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: I think Derek car slightly better. I just don't have

493
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: any faith in Jimmy G. So the fact that they're

494
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: such a high wind total, I think it's just because

495
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: they're in Las Vegas. They were in say Seattle or

496
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: somewhere random different. I think it'd be six and a half.

497
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: But we're getting a free extra game bumped up here

498
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: just because they're in Vegas. So I love that under

499
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: for them.

500
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 2: Unlike the NFC, which I think is obviously more wide open,

501
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: I think in the AFC, if you didn't markedly improve,

502
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: if you stayed the same, then you automatically declined because

503
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: the competition is so much better. Like the middle tier

504
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: teams that we're talking about, the Ravens, the Steelers, I

505
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 2: think the Brown Jets, the Broncos, the Jets, Miami like

506
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: either through moves they had previously made or recent moves,

507
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 2: or getting players back because they weren't at full capacity,

508
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: they they've automatically improved. And then teams like, to me,

509
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: when I look at this question, I automatically think about

510
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: the Titans, like, this is a team in pure limbo.

511
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: They've got an aging running back now who they talked

512
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: about the rumors that they might want to get rid

513
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: of this offseason. They've got an aging quarterback who they've

514
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: now tried to replace for two straight years that he's

515
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: calling deja vu, and their defense has been inconsistent. I

516
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: love Mike Rabel as a coach. I think he's so good,

517
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: But who are their receivers? Who are their weapons? Like,

518
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: you know, Chris Moore, that's what you're excited about Nick Westbrook, Aquina,

519
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: that's what you're excited about resigning him to a one

520
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: year deal. Like you didn't make the move in the

521
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: draft to go get a big name quarterback. You ended

522
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 2: up with Will Levis, who there's a lot of, you know,

523
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 2: questions about this team took a step back by not

524
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 2: taking a step forward.

525
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they could somehow get to their win

526
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: to little just because they're played in such a weak division.

527
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: But I think Chaddy nailed it there. It's just they've

528
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: gotten progressively worse at every position just because they've gotten

529
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: older and they haven't replaced a lot of guys they've

530
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: let go. Right. So to me, Rabral is the only

531
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: reason we even pause on this. It's like, this guy

532
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: is such a good coach. Even last year. I mean,

533
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: think about how they started the season. They got blown

534
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: out by the Bills, and I think they got destroyed

535
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: by the Rams. Whoever it was. Rabel got them back

536
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: to five hundred, and then all of a sudden they

537
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: were leaving that division. You thought they're going away with it.

538
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: I think completely fell apart at the end of the season.

539
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: I think last year was kind of their last gasp, right,

540
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: that was our last run with that group. I'm totally

541
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: on board with Chad's saying, and again people saying I'm

542
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: making shit up what came out this week. Dannehill was

543
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: getting shopped around all offseason and at the draft by

544
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: multiple reports. We know this, we know they're trying to

545
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: move on from the guys. So to me, who knows

546
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in training camp. But that's the first

547
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: person I think of where someone goes down with a

548
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: knee injury. Right, there's always those quarterbacks are all right

549
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: being ready to be shocked. The Sam Bradford, we call it, right,

550
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 1: You're waiting for a team to get hurt and then

551
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: you trade the Sam Bradford the last minute to bring

552
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: in the next guy. That's how I feel about Tannehill.

553
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: He's just waiting for someone to get hurt and someone

554
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: will trade for him. So I think he nailed a

555
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: chad where the middle class of the AFC has just

556
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: gone so much better, like the Miami, the Jets, all

557
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: of them pushing these teams up. It's just again, we're

558
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: in the golden age of We're in the golden age

559
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: of quarterback. I've just never seen a conference so stacked

560
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: as the AFC is. This upcoming season, which me and

561
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: Chi are gonna talk about, it makes me loves the

562
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: NFC even more, where it's like everyone's gonna talking about

563
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: the AFC all season. We'll get better odds on these

564
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: NFC teams. No one's really gonna be talking about the

565
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: Eagles of forty nine ers. All these different teams in

566
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: the middle of the season, it's just gonna be all

567
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: about the AFC. So to me, that's where the value

568
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: is gonna be this upcoming season.

569
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: We gotta talk about Cleveland. We gotta talk about Deshaun Watson. Yeah,

570
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: how do we judge what happens next? Are we oracles

571
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: and we see him playing brilliantly? Are we thinking that

572
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: he's lost it and he'll never get back to where

573
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: he was, Because that's where the value is, and there's

574
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: nothing to tell us right or wrong other than belief

575
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: or am I missing something?

576
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: Well, the funniest thing is talking to like a lot

577
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: of pros, especially old school pros, where they just think

578
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: of all the franchises through all the years. They think

579
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: the Browns have some of the worst karma and just

580
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: everything around them is just terrible. Right. They literally we

581
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: had what was it four years and then analytically tanking

582
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: passing on all these quarterbacks. They finally take Baker with

583
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: a number one pick. This kid has arguably one of

584
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: the best rookie season we've ever seen. Following year, takes

585
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: them to the playoffs, gets them a playoff win. Shit,

586
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 1: they were a Chad Henny pass away. Yeah, from make

587
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: it to an AFC championship game. So it's just they

588
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: were this close and then they fallen all the way

589
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: back down. They've gotten rid of Baker. They brought in

590
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: a new quarterback that has arguably the most baggage we've

591
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: ever seen for a quarterback. Whatever's going on his head

592
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: isn't right. We saw it last year. He just did

593
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: not seem like the old Deshaun Watson. He seems different.

594
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: And you know, I've read some really smart Browns beat

595
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: reporters who are they're the most locked in people for

596
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: that franchise. They say that everything at the end of

597
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: the season was then working on this upcoming season. They

598
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: have purposely apparently put Watson in uncontrapositions, right, they wanted

599
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: to put him in bad spots to learn the offense

600
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. That made no sense to me, Like,

601
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: I get what they're trying to say that it's a

602
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: spin zone. They're like, well, they're putting them in these

603
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: hard spots so the next year it's easier for him

604
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: to do this offense. Why wouln't you want to get

605
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: Sehn Watson's confidence back? The guy had done not played

606
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: a football game in over two years. The whole story

607
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: is just weird to meet, Chad. So coming to the season,

608
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to be all over this Browns team, but

609
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: you nailed it off the top. I just think this

610
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: division is so damn good, Like the Browns have gotten better,

611
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 1: the Ravens have gotten better, Pittsburgh has gotten better, and

612
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: to me, this is it for Cincy. This is the

613
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: since He's really last great year because they still got

614
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: t Higgins under that cheap deal. They still got Boyd

615
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: to receiver, and they still got Chase like that to

616
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: me is the best receiving corps with a top five quarterback.

617
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: We all expect Sincey to be the top there. But

618
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: me and Chad talked about it last year. The Ravens

619
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: should have won this division. We know that there is

620
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: opportunity to steal this division because they just beat up

621
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: on each other. So to me, I wanted to believe

622
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: the Browns, Chad, but this division, I rather believe in

623
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh or the Ravens like you talked about then, I

624
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: rather believe in the Browns. So I made one future

625
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: bet on the Browns. I won't be betting anymore. Like

626
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: I'll take them at whatever, I got it at forty

627
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: to one. That's it. Like usually, I'll keep doubling up

628
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: anymore in futures the Browns, I'm not doing it. I'm

629
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: gonna wait and see what Watson is because right now

630
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: he look broken to me. So we see big jumps

631
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: this year. I'll be back in on the brown team.

632
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: But as you said here today, Chad, no, I will

633
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: not put another penny on this Browns team.

634
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: The Ravens should have won the division. The Ravens should

635
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: have won the playoff game.

636
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still I have not them that ball at the.

637
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: One before we get out of here. Any long shot

638
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: for MVP in the AFC, let me give you hold on,

639
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: let me give you some Let me give you some

640
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: bet three six five odds for the UH we got

641
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes at six to one, Joe Burrow six and

642
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: a half to one, Josh Allen eight to one. By

643
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: the way, Justin Herbert ten to one. Pretty good indication

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Speaker 2: of where the quality is for players. Jalen Hurts twelfth

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Speaker 2: And I also don't.

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Speaker 1: Hate those odds. Were hurts just because in that division

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Speaker 1: to stand above. But I honestly like the Trevor Lawrence odds.

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Speaker 1: They've come down a little bit. I still think you're

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Speaker 1: getting good value there where I could see him put

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Speaker 1: I just think he has all the confidence in the world.

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Speaker 1: Everything I've seen, I just love the trajector of the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars team. So for me, if I had to pick

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Speaker 2: Peblue One's twenty to one. Jalen Hurts twelve to one.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say right now, I think it's worth putting

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Speaker 1: Don't hate it. Yeah, I mean, I know people are

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Speaker 1: be talking about the Bears a lot. They just I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see the schedule release because that's you know,

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Speaker 1: that's my favorite thing that happens. But to me, the Bears,

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Speaker 1: they're just in a prime position to have an incredible season.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be sick of it. Guy, I like, I'm already

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Speaker 2: getting comments on Twitter. We get it, you're a Bears fan.

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Speaker 2: Let's stop talking about the Bears. Look, I haven't talked

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Speaker 2: I started at ESPN in two thousand and eight. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I can't help it if all of a sudden, they're

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Speaker 2: If you listened to the podcast on Monday. Earlier in

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Speaker 1: If people want a true story, here Chad a true story.

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Speaker 1: To end it real quick. Yeah, this is how I

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