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Speaker 1: start the part today. Just speaking about the Kanye West documentary.

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Speaker 1: This was a unique documentary. I think it holds a

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Speaker 1: in certain situations if you wanted them. It's value in

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Speaker 1: documenting that process. People pay to see you pushing pool.

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Speaker 1: Always tell y'all, it's the strategy, it ain't the strength.

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Speaker 1: But this documentary on Netflix was told by Coody. He

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Speaker 1: me say this about our differences in approach me other podcasters,

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Speaker 1: other creators, other business entrepreneurs. Right, they want to talk

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Speaker 1: to who own it? And it's nothing wrong. We want

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Speaker 1: regards to whatever. When you're looking for information, you got

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Speaker 1: to talk to who built it. Oftentimes creators are not

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Speaker 1: point that there's a big problem because at that point,

428
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Speaker 1: had he took a deal, a lump summer money was

429
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: coming to those guys and it would have shut him up.

430
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: But now we go into no, you're not stopped getting paid.

431
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: You're still gonna get paid. Yell. But we was looking

432
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: at some money from back then. Then we got our

433
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: eyes open that when the check comes in, we want

434
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: to see it. See last time the check come in

435
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: and you just told us what happened, and we just

436
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: took that and we're waiting on account. This is what

437
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: my understanding is from listening to Mall. When the first

438
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: check came in, they wasn't privi you to the information.

439
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: They kind of just took whatever he said happened and

440
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: took the money. Now they have a count on board.

441
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: Why another check is about to come through the door.

442
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: I wonder did that influence Joe not taking the deal,

443
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: knowing that there's gonna be somewhat of a fair split

444
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: according to those guys on this project. But Mall spoke

445
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: to a lot of things that I'm gonna speak to

446
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: them all about on this part. And again I always

447
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: told people from the beginning, Mall was the guy that

448
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: hurt Joe Button, the Rory thing. He's narcissistic. He could

449
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: have got over Rory. Right, He's a white guy, met

450
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: four years ago, ten years ago, whatever it might have been.

451
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: But Mall, a lot of our relationships overlap, intertwined. You

452
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: got a lot of information that only you got. And

453
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: he big Mall loup. Let's be clear, this is what

454
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: was funny about to break up. I want to be

455
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: clear with you guys, or how to massage your audience.

456
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: Either he felt that way about Mala. He was doing

457
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: a great job at building that character up so his

458
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: audience can't accept Mall because it was always mal It's

459
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: the cool kid, Mams. The guy looked too for this Mars,

460
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: this Mall dad. And I always thought he was building

461
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 1: that up. I always thought he was building him up

462
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: as a co host as a personality on the Joe

463
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: Button podcast, right, because people, for the most part, in

464
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: his mind, his audience doesn't know who Mall lives. So

465
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: I got a co sign him in for me. I'm

466
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: thinking that's the genius of Joe Buden. But when we

467
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: talk about this, I want to play this very specific

468
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: clip from the Joe Button podcast. Give me a second.

469
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: Let's let's just get out on the table. Man, tell

470
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: everyone what your issue is with me. Let's do it.

471
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think I don't have an issue

472
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: with Joe Budden, Like this is my thing. I listened

473
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: to this podcast all the time. I've heard y'all critique

474
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. I've heard y'all who's the a mike.

475
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: I've heard y'all say we usually critique it in your favor,

476
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: by the way, tro Indeed, I don't never think hear

477
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: that and be like, oh, they're trying to break the

478
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: breakfast club up, or they're trying to divide and conquer.

479
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: I like, every day you don't knock it off, But

480
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: this shit parallel I'm just doing. I'm just going based

481
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: off what I see on social media. They're like, I've

482
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: seen an hour long YouTube video your city the ship

483
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: was Charlomagne is trying to destroy every day struggle by

484
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: using the forty eight laws of power. I think what

485
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: I think you brought ac on there to separate akin

486
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: Joe against your competition, Royd, do you know how long

487
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: I've known academics all of you. Before I go any further,

488
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: let me let me just kind of lay some framework

489
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: down of what was going on when this took place.

490
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: We're about to play a clip when Charlomagne the God

491
00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: came over to the Joe Button podcast at the very

492
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: early stages while he was being somewhat attacked, you know,

493
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: just little jabs at him here and now, he still

494
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: came over and he said good things about Mall. After

495
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: the destruction of the original cast of the Joe Buddon podcast,

496
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: we see Mall reference every time Charlemagne said, hey, Mall

497
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: is what make this podcast going. We're gonna play that clip.

498
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: Interesting to see Mall us that his leverage when he's

499
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: rejected Charlemagne and dissed him the whole time. A lot

500
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: of times people shape opinions on you based on the

501
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: people that's providing them information about you. I want to

502
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: be clear about what Joe Budden stood right here, because

503
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: it's important you understand position is important. Right. If you

504
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: don't understand where you stand, you don't understand how to

505
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: get started. And so when Joe was in this position.

506
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: He was in a vulnerable state in regards to his podcast.

507
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: If you look and will and I'll show you here shortly.

508
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: If you look, he was doing a podcast in a

509
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: professional studio like a vocal booth. We all know that

510
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: that's not somewhere where you do a podcast set right

511
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: to be one of the biggest podcasts in the world,

512
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: So that not that doesn't speak to Joe Button's character. Again,

513
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: I only speak about the information that speaks to the

514
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: state of the business. This is right before he started

515
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: to give money, and I always tell y'all Charlemagne at

516
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: leouped him. Charlemagne gave him every inch of whatever star

517
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: power he had and congregated with him as many times

518
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: as he could to uplift his brand. And then Joe

519
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: for some reason started taking shots at him. They have

520
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: a weird relationship. I don't know. I think it's something

521
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: that content creators need to take a look at, because

522
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: unfortunately that kind of breeds what makes people stop helping

523
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: each other. I also want to be clear on this

524
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: conversation that Charlemagne and God is actively on the Breakfast

525
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: Club at this moment, coming off of The Birdman moment,

526
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: the top radio show in the market, millions of dollars

527
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: on the line for talking each Hill also is operating

528
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: with loudspeakers. Shout out to Chris Munroe at the time

529
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: in which he had tax Stone and a bunch of

530
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: different people integrated with the brand, Andrew shows he's doing

531
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: a high level business already at this moment when Joe

532
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: Budden is doing his podcast in a vocal bull and

533
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: the only reason I cite that is because I want

534
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: you to understand that the high level jiu jitsu is

535
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: for Joe Button to sitting next to Charlemagne and make

536
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 1: him his opponent in the eyes of the people that's watching.

537
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: That's why when he comes out, he's clearn you said this,

538
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: and I want to talk about my gripes with you

539
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: and him and Mam might go to talking him and

540
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: Rory might go to talking. No, I want to focus

541
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: on what you said about me and what I think

542
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: about you. He's creating the forty eight laws of power

543
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: says you must have an opponent and if you don't

544
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: have one, create one. So he's creating the illusion that, hey,

545
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: if I'm your opponent, then they at least think I

546
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: missed I'm on your level. It's high level jiu jitsu.

547
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: He's trying to plant the podcast in a place, so

548
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: I feel him. I see what he's doing now. Charlemagne

549
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: also has a book out, a bestseller. This is at

550
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: this moment when Joe Budden is doing a podcast in

551
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: a vocal booth, Charlemagne is there right. So again, when

552
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: they talk about their little scuffle that they have, I'm

553
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: always interested in how it happened, why it happened, because

554
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: from an outside looking in perspective, he's did everything to

555
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: launch whatever career that you currently have, and the place

556
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: you're sitting in comes from him being generous with those

557
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: at that time. If Charlemagne wasn't saying that about many people,

558
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: Oh you're great at this, and you're super harder, you're

559
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: good at this, that's important in this space, those kind

560
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: of coach size in public. I'm pretty sure Rogan tells

561
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people they're great off air. It's a

562
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: select amount of people on air here come on and

563
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,239
Speaker 1: say those things. So let's listen to a little bit

564
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: of it, and then we'll come back with some game.

565
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: I big on the counter in the morning. Pause pause,

566
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: But Joe I said you would not, and I don't

567
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: do that in the bathrooms. Early I said Joe would

568
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: walk I said, Joe, get Joe. Joe's got a d D.

569
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: He'll get tired of it, He'll get tired of dealing

570
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: with academics. He'll get tired of being in that building.

571
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: He'll walk away from the ship. That was a chess move.

572
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: That academics on your podcast, and you know it, you know.

573
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 1: So just to be clear, this time, Charlemagne is speaking

574
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: about Joe Button breaking up Everyday Struggle, which at the

575
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: time was a show we had with academics. Don't complex

576
00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: if I remember brought up some tweets, Yes, things I

577
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: said on the podcast. Apparently I am salty at DJ academic,

578
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: at hate towards academics. Why because I think you know

579
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: that he's gonna take your spot eventually. Joe's gotta do

580
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: aspect for his brand, So you think Jo's got to

581
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: do I'm just my assessment right to me, it seems

582
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: like Joe and may have been knowing each other for

583
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: a long time. I feel like Joe is loyal to

584
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: his friends, so God through the industry, y'all kind of disposable.

585
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just in awe, this guy's good? Am

586
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: I wrong? Yeah? He really believes that and I know

587
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: that too. Right. If you study and study these guys, right,

588
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: you have a good sense to what they may do

589
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: and how they feel based on what they've done, It's

590
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: called raid to travel. I look at what you have

591
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: done and consider what you will do. Do you understand me?

592
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: So when you when you look at some of those things,

593
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't disagree with that. Let's listen to a little

594
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: bit more like your friend friend? Where is my friend? Okay? Okay,

595
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: I hang out with him, Okay, outside of here, okay, okay,

596
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: Like I love, I love, I talk this fuck. I

597
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: talked to people that love him, care about him. That's

598
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: my guy. Even when that works, I'd rather him replace

599
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: me if I was whack on this podcast or people

600
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: didn't want me, well that's coming, you know. So where

601
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: am I gonna be replaced with? Ac? I'm curious you

602
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: think ak is gonna do this podcast? Now? Why wouldn't

603
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: he would everything him for thirty minutes every morning? They're

604
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: gonna come here and sit for three hours at a

605
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: real interesting take on why I think Joe always has

606
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: strato defense. And I'll speak going to here in the second,

607
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: I just said, do you think they're gonna want to

608
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: talk every single day for thirty minutes, scream at each

609
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: other and then come here for another hour to talk

610
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: about the bag? Y'all always talk about the bag? Right,

611
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: we work out the bad? He did lie thin worsh

612
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: and you worship Charlema? What about? What about about? I

613
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: wish Rory would stop dignifying this fuck shit. I'm telling

614
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: him if creating all of these fucking Joe Budden narratives,

615
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: I know you're it's Interact. Even with that, you had

616
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: said that I was on Twitter talking about ACT. If

617
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: you read a company, I said, to shut up flex,

618
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: So you wasn't talking about ACT. No, I said, what

619
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: I think while was trying to say to ACT was

620
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. What I said on Twitter? So

621
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: you was talking to academics through while you was translating.

622
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: Everyone on Twitter was talking about it, And I said, hey,

623
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: what I think while was trying to say the ACT

624
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 1: but didn't get across the right thoughts though you can't

625
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: run him through on my Twitter. Yes, Charlotte thought we

626
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: were talking about ac on your twilet. Why but you're

627
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: saying that I was saying that about academics. I said, no,

628
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: this is what I think Wiley was saying about him.

629
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: Do I agree with Yes, I do, but that's not

630
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: what I was saying. Sorry, I'm gonna be honest with

631
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: you fighting. No, No, I'm gonna be honest. That's some

632
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: sucking shit rory, because again, I just want to I

633
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: want to play this part only to let you guys

634
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: understand positioning. At that particular time, again, Charlemagne was the

635
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: big dog and he needed Charlemagne, and so he still

636
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: did this Joe Button kind of thing where he talks

637
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: and says this and accuses you and laughs about it

638
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: right to create narratives. He's a great communicator, but at

639
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: that time, Charlemagne didn't have to do that. And that's

640
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: why I always find it interesting when I see them

641
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: to go at it. And I got a surprise when

642
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: I get in position that I want to unfold right

643
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: in front of people through your filter. I want to talk.

644
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't care not this is not compelling for anybody

645
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: but the two of you. I want to get back

646
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: to academics, Leah, but we don't care about what you're into.

647
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: I want to get back to Charlemagne tricking naive academics

648
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: on his fucking well, this is part of what he's doing. Man,

649
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: I really don't know, but all is very important that

650
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: I let you know fight of academics naive tape. I

651
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: got him, so again, I just want to play that

652
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: just to kind of give some context on some of

653
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: the things that I think Maul is gonna reference. I

654
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: think they never saw that coming because while Joe was

655
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: falling out with everybody else, Mall was still there. While

656
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: Joe was getting into it with people and falling out

657
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: and being sued and going to jail or whatever, Mall

658
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: was there. We hit the stories all the time on

659
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: the PARD, so I know Maul hurt him right now

660
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: the pod when I listened back at those kind of episodes.

661
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: As good as it is, I've always said, in my perspective,

662
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: the weight that Ish pods and the weight that his

663
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: mind works, it's gonna be rare that Joe gets to

664
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: play oscillation, and that's where he's most effective. When I

665
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: look at Ice, he's now we even getting to the

666
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: point where he's telling people live on air, hold on hold, on, hold,

667
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: on hold on stopping their point, stopping the conversation and

668
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: taking that forefront. And for those of you that don't

669
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: pot or don't understand content creating, you may not understand

670
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: what that does to the flow. When you do something,

671
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: you got to work to people's strengths. When you see

672
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: eighty five Soft Show, when you see how they are

673
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: able to go in and not when you see big

674
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: facts go in and not with each other, when you

675
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: see Brother's Club in and now Wallow and Gilly in

676
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: and now be Marshall, I am athlete in and now

677
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: Ojo Sinko right when you see Norry in, and that

678
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: they know how the rhythm of this thing is working

679
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: as good as it's is podcasting, and it's much information

680
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: that he has. I think his brain probably won't allow

681
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: Joe to go on those isolation ranch where he can

682
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: kind of get it off, because when he sees something,

683
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna react. When it doesn't make sense, he's gonna react.

684
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Rory and Mara were professional pocket players over there, professional

685
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: role players, but they were high power because they knew

686
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: when I Joe was on his twenty minute thing, let's

687
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: sit back if we see him stumbling, add a sentence

688
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: and then sit back like that's a skill set right there.

689
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: Everybody think he's just sitting down talking. Now everybody can't

690
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: talk at the same time. Somebody got to forward the

691
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: conversation and you gotta have charitable donations. You can't just

692
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: be talking. And that's what's happening with a lot of

693
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: podcasts right and so the format of the show now,

694
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: I think it's suffering. You got is that can part

695
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: at a high level. You got Joe, which is a

696
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: he's a part of at an extreme high level. You

697
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: got Ice that's a great part of. But the formatt is,

698
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, when you look back, Joe used

699
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: to have twenty minute rents. You don't have those anymore.

700
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: Joe probably at maximum get to talk three minutes without

701
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: interruption with Rory and mall on him. Sometime he get

702
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: the goal with that Spotify thing happened, he was gone.

703
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: That's one of his classic thing. When he had to

704
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: dress Charlemagne forty minutes, thirty minutes, he was gone and

705
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: they was involved here and there. But that's what his

706
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: strength is and they got to play to that. Now.

707
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send an invoice to the JBP team and

708
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: hopefully they can cut the check for that consultant. So

709
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: with that being said, Mall went over to a podcast

710
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: Shout Out Smoked Dizzer, and he spoke about his relationship

711
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: with Joe Budden had started. He spoke about a couple

712
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: of things. We're gonna play a little bit of it

713
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and give some game. Uh nah,

714
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: Like you know anybody on me, I'm super laid back.

715
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't really I talked to my people in my circle.

716
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: I'm not. I've never been loud, you know what I mean.

717
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: So the fact that now I talked for a living

718
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: or lifestyle, it's funny. It's like it's let you know,

719
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: you could plan and you could say, yoh, this is

720
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: what I do that, but you just never know what

721
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: life is going to hand you, you know what I mean.

722
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: And you know, I still had a podcast years ago

723
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: that I was doing. Um it's funny. It was up

724
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: actually at Serious xm' serious. He was recording up there.

725
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: We just do it every Sunday, and it was it

726
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: was a group of us, nab me, like four or

727
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: five of us and twelve maybe it's it was hard

728
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: to get, you know, people to agree to do something

729
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: for free every Sunday. I was back home. I was

730
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: back in the city, and I asked when Rory and

731
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: Homie called me and was like, yo, you know, I

732
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: want you to be a guest on the show. And

733
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, cool, I'll come kick it with

734
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: y'all and all that. So when kicked did anybody loved

735
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: the episode? You know, it was one of the best ones.

736
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: They said, it was like the response was made. And

737
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: then the next week came and they called me again like, yo,

738
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: so you free to record themorrow. Like I was like, yeah,

739
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: I come kick it. And then that and then after that,

740
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: that's when the conversation started off. Yo, we could really

741
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: if we really lock in and build this ship, we

742
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: could really do something special here. Like so it was

743
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: just all about you know, was I willing to lock

744
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: in and really dedicate the time and and and build

745
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: that and you know, it was a simple conversation. So

746
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: again this is Mall just explaining his entry into the

747
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: Joe Buddon podcasting. Here, let's push it, and uh, ultimately

748
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: we did, and you know, we end up creating a

749
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: lane for a lot of other podcasts and just showing

750
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: people that, Yo, it's pacts, you know, if nothing else,

751
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: it's possible. Sometimes you got to be the first one

752
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: to go through the door to be like, yo, it's

753
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: litting here, nigga, come on, you know what I'm saying. Like,

754
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: So that's what we did, and it was special. We had.

755
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: We had some good times on there, man, but you know, unfortunately,

756
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, egos and things got in the way and

757
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: we're not egos and ego got in the way, and

758
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: you know it caused that whole demise. But you know this,

759
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: You know today I'm in a better space with that mentally,

760
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But a few months ago

761
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't you know what I'm saying. I was in

762
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: a different place. But you know, everything happens for a reason,

763
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: and I can't be you know now looking back at

764
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: where we are, Rory myself staying today and where we are,

765
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: what we built today and what we have, you know,

766
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: coming down the pipeline, it had to happen, you know

767
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And all reality, it's like, you know,

768
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: I always knew Homie was you know what type of

769
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: time he was on, you know what I'm saying, because

770
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: I saw things coming up with him and it was

771
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't move like that. That ain't even you

772
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like, yo, why would you

773
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: do that? Ain't that's unnecessary? So it's it was it

774
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: was destined to happen, It's what I'm saying, because it

775
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: was always there. It was always you know, hints of

776
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: things happening, and it was just like it. I was

777
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: just mad at the fact that it was like damn,

778
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: like we really got something though, But you know again,

779
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: everything happened for a reason. Life is beautiful, man. You

780
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm blessed, you know, and I can't.

781
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: I can't. There's no second guessing what happened to me.

782
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: That's why today I'm in a better space mentally. You

783
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying months ago though. Now if you man,

784
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: if you're listening to what's being said, right, he's basically

785
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: letting you know why things imploded. Money was taken for

786
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: just lack of a better term, however, all that dancing

787
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: is money was taken again. I explained that when the

788
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: first check came through with Spotify, they kind of just

789
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: took his word. I guess based on their communication. I

790
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: displices this, we owe this much this time. If that

791
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: thirty million come through, We'll get this kind of split,

792
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: which maybe why Joe Button was uncomfortable with the deal.

793
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: I won't get as much as I probably was looking

794
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: to get. And plus I got to run the business.

795
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: It'll cost this much, and and you know, and so

796
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: it got weird real quick because it took off fast

797
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: and Joe started to do other things, Which how do

798
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: you account for that in this business? Right? So let's

799
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 1: say I worked for Pepsi, and then me working for Pepsi.

800
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: Now I'm working for Revolte, and I'm working for Complex,

801
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: and I'm working for Black Black Effect, and I'm working

802
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: for Serious XM and I'm working for House of Athletes. Right,

803
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: how do I then say, all right, when we first

804
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: did our contract, I wasn't working with none of them,

805
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: But now I got all of these, so I need

806
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: to account for that. But when we look at that

807
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: number from Spotify, I get the same cut as you

808
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: guys are a little bit more like Nah, I think

809
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm bringing more of the audience. I think what was

810
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: what a confusion was is they were having audience conversation

811
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: who brought the audience? Who's bringing the audience? And I

812
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: think in the content world. You don't have those conversations.

813
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 1: Let me get y'all some game and the content world.

814
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: The conversations you need to have is who's sustaining the audience.

815
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: You can get them there, you can literally pay to

816
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: get the eyes your way, but who's keeping them watching?

817
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: Who's responsible for that? How do you quantify that? How

818
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: do you even find that out? Right? So that's some

819
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: of the things you have to think about when you

820
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: into this game. Let's look at a little more. It

821
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: was dark, see but I always knew me I was

822
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: gonna spin out on top of the situation. Everybody, all parties,

823
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: it was gonna work for because you know, you guys

824
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: got your own identities, so it was easy to just

825
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: go do your own thing. But see, but see smoke.

826
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: That was That's the thing though, And that was one

827
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: of the things that bothered me when the when the

828
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: separation happened, was certain things that was being said. You know,

829
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: it was like, no, they can't do that. You know,

830
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: they're gonna fall on the face, you know, And I'm

831
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: just like he said that. Listen, man, you know things

832
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: that was being said, it was alleged. I'm telling you

833
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: straight from the these are things that were set, you

834
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and you can run the tapes back,

835
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's what it was

836
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: for me. It was like, it's like that when you

837
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: know me though, like we ain't gotta, We don't gotta.

838
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: They don't gotta go that route, you know what I'm saying.

839
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: We don't gotta lie and fabricate to the people. Just

840
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: say what it is, because once you give it to

841
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: the people as what it is and let them dissect it,

842
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: they'll know. You know what I mean. And it's like

843
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: I said, you could just do that. It's all on audio.

844
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: Do the track. Do you feel like he was trying

845
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: to violate your character? He would eat, but he know

846
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: he can't, man, because if you know our relationship, right,

847
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: you know it's he can't violate my character, you know

848
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And it's just like that's why I

849
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: didn't understand things that was being said, because it's like

850
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: it's cool. Businesses over obviously, right, that's all right, that's fine,

851
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: it happens, but don't turn it into something else. Don't

852
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: turn it into some fake you know, soap opera ship.

853
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I never want to be

854
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: a part of that, Like I'm not mad at things

855
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: falling out and you know, falling apart, as long as

856
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: it's it's real, you know what I'm saying, And and

857
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: that's what I wanted it to be. And it's like, yo,

858
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: but just tell the people what really happened. But then

859
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: we didn't even have to tell the people because people

860
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: started compilating the videos and putting things together that was

861
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 1: being said, and none of the things we were saying

862
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: like oh and it's like anybody that knows me, No,

863
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm not falling out when no homies over no paper,

864
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: Like that's not even my I'm not from that, you

865
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's just like, look at

866
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: the look at the videotape, the footage is I mean

867
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: we I mean I've seen it's like I'm not so

868
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: it was over money. It was over ultimately it money

869
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: was the issue, but it wasn't the issue. When I

870
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: say that, meaning like money was was taking from Rory

871
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: and myself. It just is what it is. Like it's no,

872
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: we ain't gotta act like money was taking Rory and myself.

873
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: We knew that, but we homie, so we know I'm

874
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: not even tripping. I'm just like, bro, we're gonna, were

875
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: gonna get it right. We're gonna fix it. Dontorr about that.

876
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: Let's just keep doing what we're doing. But it gets

877
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: to a point where as a man, you're like, all right, though,

878
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm not stupid, and I can't sit here and keep

879
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: acting like I'm stupid, like because now I don't even

880
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: want to be in his room. So we started having

881
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: conversations like, yo, bro, let's just make it right. And

882
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: then again, when you approach people that's doing wrong, they

883
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 1: get defensive, and then when they have an ego attached

884
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: to that, it's like a combination for just a bad,

885
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, situation. So it's like, you can't be wrong

886
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: and loud. They're wrong, you're wrong. You gotta be humble,

887
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: you gotta be quiet, you gotta took your tail a

888
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: little bit, like you know what I'm saying. You can't

889
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: be wrong to start pouncing on your chest like, because

890
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: now we're looking at you like, yo, what's wrong with you?

891
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So it was just in

892
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: that sense, it was unfortunate that it had to happen

893
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: like that, but you know, it is what it is,

894
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: and we tried to Rory myself dealt with it for

895
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Bro, Like, this wasn't just an

896
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: overnight thing. This was like two years. But I have

897
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: the ax question, do you agree that it's his business? No,

898
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: because we signed a contract before there was any any

899
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: business at all. You hear them mom speak, and the

900
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: only thing that comes to my mind is he believes

901
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: he's dealing with an enemy. He believes that dude's approach.

902
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: And I'm fans of both the guys, but I examine

903
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: the information for a living. But he thinks his approach

904
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 1: is one of an enemy. And you know, there's a saying.

905
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: It says you don't lose friends, you just realize you

906
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: never had any. I always tell people, man, if if

907
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: they're talking to me about you, they'll talk to you

908
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: about me. Right at some point though, we hope people

909
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: change brand. But and I don't know Joe to have

910
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: done anything that these guys in that facet, but alleged

911
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: it from them money was taken. I think Joe is

912
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: a great speaker, he's a great podcast. I think his

913
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: draw is one of the biggest in the game. As

914
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: you see he's carrying that part over there with the homies.

915
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: I think it's unfortunate in the way that the crumbled,

916
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: and I think it blindsided him in a way that

917
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: sucked all the out of him. I think he's still gone,

918
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: but I think he's on auto pilot. I think I

919
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: think that that was a blow man. That was a man.

920
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: Y'all don't understand how deep I think that blow was.

921
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: That blow with Mall in particular, it was Mall. It

922
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: was never Rory, it was mam Man. I think he

923
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: would have even fixed it with Mall, but Mall came

924
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: with Rory. Mall was like, no, if this is us,

925
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: I think he would have reached out the Mall if

926
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: see this is what, in my opinion, happened when the

927
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: break up happened. Joe instant like Yo, Rory's rand with Mall.

928
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: That offended him, which is pride wouldn't allow him to

929
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: reach out to Mall and tell him, Yo, what are

930
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: we doing? Brother? His pride wouldn't allow him to do that.

931
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: I don't know who's right or wrong, but I know pride.

932
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, you right with the white boy man,

933
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm done, I'm nad done. Went too far?

934
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: Then you can't now a conversation isn't available. I think

935
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: they had some special man. I think they really understood

936
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: the structure of how the conversation needed to flow, and

937
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: maybe these guys be able to do the same. But

938
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: I think it is more like a Mike, you know.

939
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: I think he needs a small two three dribbles in

940
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: the alley out. You know, some people you really got

941
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: to create their take, right. You gotta drive him all

942
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: the way almost right to the point and then pass

943
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: it to him and let him get his little point off.

944
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: It is able to do what we able to do

945
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: where it's like you able to create h you all right,

946
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: I want to go there with us. So I'm gonna

947
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: come through here with go through that, say this, make

948
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: that point, come back through here. It's gonna be hard

949
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: for Joda, and he also knows Joe. I think that

950
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: relationship is a quite different than dynamic between it's and

951
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: Joe and Marl and Joe. I think Mal just kind

952
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: of knew how to part a little different than it's

953
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: and it's just more of an a Mike, and Mal

954
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: is more of a He's comfortable being a B Mike.

955
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: He can may probably be an a Mike too. But

956
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: I think he's more comfortable or he can thrive in

957
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: the B Mike spot as well. Um, let's listen to

958
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: a little more. It's deep. Look, we agreed on the percentage,

959
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: and it's actually looking back, Rory myself, we shouldn't have

960
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: Our lawyer said we shouldn't have took it that deal.

961
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: They was like, you shouldn't sign this contract our lawyers.

962
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: He was like, nah, I'm don't worry about it. We

963
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: signed for lawyers. Well, Rory myself had the same lawyer,

964
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So she was like, Yo,

965
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: this ain't like I wouldn't do it if I was

966
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: y'all like, he's this your friend, because this is not

967
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,959
Speaker 1: a contract that a friend would put on the table

968
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 1: for his friends, you know what I'm saying. But it

969
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: was like we're building something. Fuck, let's do it, you

970
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But in that, you know, it's

971
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: like I think I don't think that he expected us

972
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: to get the check that we got, you know what

973
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So then now you know, you gotta you know,

974
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: just let's just be real, you know what I mean.

975
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna give this to you because this is

976
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: your platform and you're my guy. Just look at it

977
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: like you had an artist that was, you know, chasing

978
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: a certain level of fame and success through music, wasn't

979
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: able to really get to where he felt like maybe

980
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, because you know how these niggas got eager

981
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: to feel like, I'm better than that nigga. I should

982
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: be more popping than that nigga. I rapped better than him,

983
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: but you was never really quite able to get there.

984
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: So you got there and you started getting invited into

985
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: these rooms with these people that you looked up to

986
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: through podcasting what you got your homies with you, So

987
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: it's not just you, you know what I'm saying, It's like, no,

988
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: this is us. We built this bro like we actually

989
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: service the buffer to the ship that a lot of

990
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: people don't even like, you know, really like talking to you,

991
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: But we make it kind of easy for them too

992
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: because we're in the room and it's you know, it's

993
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: just it was a great mix. Niggas ain't really fun

994
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: with you, and that's documented and we ain't got to

995
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: go through that. Niggasn't really fuck with you, but through

996
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: the podcast shit and with me and Rory, it kind

997
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: of made it easier conversation because you got two niggas

998
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: next to you. That's all right. His ego is crazy.

999
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: He he was always blogging though, not to cut you off. No, yeah, no,

1000
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: he was definitely doing that. I'm all right. So basically,

1001
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: if you paid attention to what Mall is saying, he's

1002
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: basically calling Joe Budden a rap game reject. And although

1003
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: that's a harsh thing to say, when he said it,

1004
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: it took me down a path and I said, oh

1005
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: my goodness. See, boy, when you when you live in

1006
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: the house, you know what a roof leaking. Boy. People

1007
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: ride out the house don't know what what the ruf leaking. Boy,

1008
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: When you live in the house, you know what the

1009
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: roof leak. And so when Mom said that, I instantly

1010
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: got the thinking, oh my god, not saying that's true,

1011
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: but think about that, think about the approach. If I

1012
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: don't want to talk to none of you dudes, I

1013
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: don't want you dudes on my ship, Like, think about

1014
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: it now, Oh y'all need me now? I even hear

1015
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: get it sometimes say oh y'all need me now? And

1016
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it because they write you

1017
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: off and then they expect you to write home you

1018
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: understand it's an unfortunate circumstance they place you in. But

1019
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: it's like when he said that, I said, oh my goodness,

1020
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: Imagine you just left this gem. Imagine you've been on

1021
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: the sideline in this gym. They let you in here

1022
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: and there, but they don't pass you the ball. They badly,

1023
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: you know. They all they want you to do is

1024
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: keep running screens for people, and they just keep calling

1025
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: the screen for you. You don't never get the You

1026
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: wide open in your opinion, they ain't gonna never throw

1027
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: you the ball. You're in a situation where you can't

1028
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: get it going. Then you get one in, you get

1029
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: in and you boom, you get the dunk, and then

1030
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: you and they still won't throw it back, and then

1031
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: dunk is. Let's say you got a record that went like,

1032
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: pump it up. Let's say you went to the top, boom,

1033
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: pump it up. You're going now yeah, and then they

1034
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: still stopped throwing you the ball. Ten fifteen years down

1035
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: the road, after struggling and getting twenty five hundred, the

1036
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: show needing to move out here, going out here, trying

1037
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: to get a deal, trying to get a feature, trying

1038
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 1: to clear record, trying to get in and explain to people.

1039
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm still got it. I know when I'm doing.

1040
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: I need a budget. Nobody opens the dough. Everybody closed

1041
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: the dough, nobody believes in it. All of a sudden,

1042
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: you podcast the podcast working, some of them saying people

1043
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: that's working X at those labels, Hey, Joey, how are

1044
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: you can my art artists come through? Moll Is saying

1045
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: that he hate these people. Moll Is saying that these

1046
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: people rejecting him treated him bad and now he won't

1047
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: help a soul. I think it's unfortunate, but it's something

1048
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: to think about. How would you feel in an industry

1049
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: that rejected you. You're proving yourself once maybe twice, did

1050
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: good here and there. You feel as though you wrap

1051
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: at a high level. You got a reputable name. They

1052
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: sent me over here to do reality TV. They got

1053
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: me some way in therapy, couples therapy on television. It

1054
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: got me fighting consequence at a love and Hip Hop

1055
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: reunion show and proposing in the middle of New York

1056
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: Times Square. Now I'm popping out and win multinad. I

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00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: don't want to talk to me. Would you talk to him?

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00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't feel a way. I always say, my hustle

1059
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: is my hustle. But I also understand that the teeth

1060
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: don't bite it unless they all work together. And so

1061
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: you gotta work together with the people. And so every

1062
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: time I think about why you don't take that, why

1063
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: you take that stance where you don't want to talk

1064
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: to people, I wonder, damn man, it comes from his body,

1065
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: and it's just something to think about. Let's listen to

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01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: a little more. Nothing away from him at all. I'm

1067
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: just saying what we did together. And then before any

1068
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: business came to the table, we had a contract in

1069
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: agreement on percentages with each other before any check came

1070
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: through the door. Understand you understand what I'm saying. This

1071
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: is before any money was involved. We had a conversation

1072
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: US three and was like, Yo, this is what we're doing.

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01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: Take this percentage. Like lawyer was like, yo, y'all getting

1074
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: robbed straight up. She told she was like a y'all

1075
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: getting rocked, Like there's no other co host that this

1076
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: ain't even a real co host percentage right here, you

1077
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But we was like, yo, don't

1078
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 1: worry about it because we homies, or so we thought

1079
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let business stop us from doing some

1080
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: groundbreaking shit. No, I'll take the l on that because

1081
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: I know whatever's for me, it's gonna be for me anyway.

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01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: Him clearly you know what I'm saying. So I wasn't

1083
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: even I was just like, don't worry about it, man, Like,

1084
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: let's just keep it going. Let's push you know what

1085
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that's what we did. We agreed to that.

1086
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: So once we locked in at this number, it's like,

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01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: it don't matter if it's a hundred million or one

1088
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, Like, we gotta get that percentage of that

1089
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: of that check. Right. So, like I said, when you

1090
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: was chasing something as a you know, in your other

1091
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: career for so many years, but you never really attained that.

1092
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: But now you're able to have these conversations with these

1093
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: artists that don't really like you, but they'll talk to

1094
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: you as a podcaster. They'll never give you a verse,

1095
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: but they'll talk to you as a podcaster. These executives

1096
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: that would never talk to you as an artist, but

1097
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: they'll talk to you as a podcaster because you have

1098
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: a show, when you have something here with your homies

1099
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: that people it's like, Okay, I like this, I like

1100
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: this energy. They gotta like this chemistry. They got these

1101
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: conversations cool. But again, the ego was like, and I

1102
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: can imagine if I'm at one point in my career

1103
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: and I noticed artists wouldn't talk to me, and now

1104
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: this artist wants to talk to me. The part like

1105
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: I would still look at them type away, like I

1106
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: asked a nigga for first ten years ago. He never

1107
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: gave it to me. But here he is hitting my

1108
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: phone because that's a poem right inte my platform and

1109
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: talk about it. So I understand you know what I'm

1110
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: saying as men, But part of being a man is

1111
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: being able to control your emotions. You see what I'm saying,

1112
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: and control your ego. We all got ego right now, Yeah,

1113
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: always dealing with it, nigga curb, I don't give a

1114
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: fuck about you of my ego. I'll I'll talk about

1115
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: my chick and something to think about. Man, we all

1116
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying. So it's like, I

1117
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: don't let that shit get in the way of our

1118
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: relationship with my homies. As corny, I'm not gonna put

1119
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: my ego on my homies. Like I'm not doing that,

1120
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So we had a situation where,

1121
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: like I said, we had an agreement and we stuck

1122
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 1: to that. We don't have nothing to talk about because

1123
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: we got we already gotta agreement with each other on percentages.

1124
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: So I'm like, nigga, I ain't tripping, Like, well, I

1125
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: know what we got in payment on in ink ink.

1126
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, signed like lawyer there everything

1127
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: it's legit. So it's like, I'm not even whatever if

1128
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: you tell me, yo, they just gave us a check

1129
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: for five honey grand I'm like, I bet I know

1130
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: what I'm I know percentage I'm getting from that, So

1131
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm not even I don't need to We don't need

1132
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: to see the exact numbers or accounting because it's like

1133
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: that's the homies. But I'm not ever gonna be like, yo,

1134
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: let me see the accounting or my man. You know

1135
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I understand businesses business, but you

1136
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: know it's also like yo, bro before business is like man,

1137
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: you're my men. I don't see what I'm saying, Like

1138
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about none of this ship

1139
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: like you my men hud this shit fall down the mall,

1140
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: We're still gonna go get something to eat and talk

1141
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: shit together. Like, so what are we really talking about?

1142
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But like I said, I

1143
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: understand where egos became inflated. And you know, like I said,

1144
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: you you're chasing something of your whole life and you

1145
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: finally get it. It's hard to kind of share it

1146
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: with motherfuckers that you feel like didn't suffer some of

1147
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: that depressing nights with you. And you know what I'm saying,

1148
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: I saw, I get it. I understand, But it's like, fans,

1149
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: we already have this agreement, no matter, and you the

1150
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: one that drew it up. To see, that's the crazy

1151
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: part about it. You're the one that drew it up,

1152
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: and you don't want to honor it speaking about it,

1153
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: fam Like what you want us to do at this point?

1154
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: It was a it was a bogus deal that we

1155
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't have signed. First of all, we got a bullshit percentage,

1156
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: and now you don't want to give us the fid

1157
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: end on the percentage that you drew up. Like enough

1158
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: is enough, bro, I'm a man at the end of

1159
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: the day, Like what you're doing, Like now you're just

1160
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: trying to spend me. You know what I'm saying. I

1161
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: can't let that happen, bro, Like I just it was

1162
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: too many people in my corner that was looking at

1163
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: me like, yo, you would have big cut home. I

1164
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: hear him all and I hear him speak about you know,

1165
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: rap gang read Jack and kind of being happy to

1166
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: be there. I don't get that feel from Joe to

1167
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: happy to be that field. I think that you gotta

1168
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: ask yourself a tough question when you deal with some

1169
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: of these things, Right, when you deal with a certain

1170
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: amount of building, all these people put sweedec with the end.

1171
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: I asked one time, who's more important the person that

1172
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: designs the house or the people you hire to build

1173
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: the house? Right, So that's always a question that it's

1174
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: always out there lingering like who's who's really worth what?

1175
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: In how culture, unfortunately, it's a misunderstanding between talent and

1176
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: executive because we're in such a new territory and sometimes

1177
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: those roles overlap with dealing with people that's calling themselves

1178
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: executive when they're merely talent. It's an uncomfortable conversation, right

1179
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: to tell people know, when you leave here talking I

1180
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: still have to work on this. And it may sound

1181
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: cliche and you may think that it's just me talking.

1182
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,479
Speaker 1: But every day, every hour, every minute, I'm thinking about

1183
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: the next smooth. If you see me on the beach,

1184
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: ask them people, I got some shit with me why

1185
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: I can't work. At any moment, I might just flash

1186
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: out I'm tired of being on the beach. What my computer?

1187
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: Get my Let me get out. Because I'm involved with

1188
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm involved with number one a new infrastructure. I need

1189
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: to really treat this like the gold rush. I need

1190
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: to really understand the position that I'm in, and that

1191
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: my children and their children and their children and their

1192
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: children and their children may not get the opportunity to

1193
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: hustle in the same capacity. Crypto may not be here,

1194
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: Crypto may not be birthed in that time. There may

1195
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: be ramifications for stepping outside of the boundaries, scribbling outside

1196
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: of the lines, right, and so while I have the

1197
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: ability to do so, I gotta put one foot in

1198
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: front the other. And when I hear about money, I

1199
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: tend to think about money is the root of all

1200
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: of us falling out. That's why when people call me

1201
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: like hey, yo, loan, I want to help you with

1202
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: your part. I don't even want nothing. It means so

1203
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: much because I know the money and make you tell

1204
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: me something. I know. We all good at talking, so

1205
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: the dude might can talk me into believe in a

1206
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: few things when this money involved. So I keep my

1207
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: head on the swivel. When you do things genuinely, you

1208
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: understand that. Now. I also say, hey, loon, talk about

1209
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: moms spaghetti. Here's the only chance you get to fix

1210
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:48,919
Speaker 1: your generational curse. Is the one chance. Matter of fact,

1211
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: you might think, here's the second chance I will never

1212
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: get another one. I gotta you. Ever seen a dog

1213
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: eating a bone. He don't care nothing about nobody else

1214
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: at that particular moment that dollar, even if his eyes

1215
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: is looking up at you, he eating that bone like

1216
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: you better stay from way because he eating like he

1217
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 1: may not never get another meal. And sometimes you're dealing

1218
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: with us special a rapper that come out to rapper game,

1219
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: a billion dollar industry and lead that industry. Brute you

1220
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: left for billion dollar industry with nothing and then spick.

1221
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: You're not to scramble like eggs when the money come in.

1222
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:39,480
Speaker 1: I think it's unfortunate, but I know the gravity associated

1223
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: with everybody in the family depending on me to make

1224
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: this work. Everybody around is depending on me to make

1225
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: this work. And they just gave us twenty media. I

1226
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: gotta get these too. What and why they just come

1227
01:08:55,080 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: and talk. Now, we don't talk, we executives, but for Joe,

1228
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: they had it written up that way. I'm telling you,

1229
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 1: in our culture, man, as we're building this podcast industry,

1230
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: this content industry, this subsection and media that's gonna be

1231
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: bigger than media, we got to identify the difference between

1232
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: talent and executive. And that's why we gotta brain that camerade.

1233
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: I would tell him be Marshall, film everything. Because they

1234
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: don't know what go into this. They think we just

1235
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: pull the camerade and go to talking. They think it

1236
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: looks so easy, anybody can do it. And that's why

1237
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm critical of my brother Wilow. I see any other

1238
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: day on Instagram he posted, Yo, here's a multimillion dollars

1239
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: situation he had folk Mike's the role caster, a camera,

1240
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: couple of things, right, a couple of thousand dollars you

1241
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: can make millions. Just believe. I'm like, yo, man, we

1242
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 1: can't do that to him. Oh though that's true, but

1243
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 1: we're bending in as much as I want all of

1244
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: us to get in this space and be effective, but

1245
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: effective is the operative word. So we gotta talk to

1246
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 1: him about knowing what to say. What is the niche?

1247
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 1: How to find a niche? See these specifics we gotta

1248
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: talk about. Okay, Greg, go by all this, BROD didn't

1249
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: do what? I just spend my rent money on this?

1250
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: Bro tagging them? Bro, you said just by this, I can, Bro,

1251
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: what can I do that? Why I say it? Need

1252
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: niggas like me to come in, reiterate and repeat, Yo,

1253
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 1: you can go get all this stuff. You better know

1254
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 1: how to approach the market. You better know what you're

1255
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: talking about. But even on top of that, you gotta

1256
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: know that people are make make ill advised decisions. They'll

1257
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: take their rent money and go by that equipment and

1258
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,839
Speaker 1: talk about what. So you gotta know how to approach

1259
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: thand you gotta know how to approach things. We gotta

1260
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: tell them how to approach things. Say what you like, bro,

1261
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: that's your niche? How you getting it there? What's SCO,

1262
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: what's CPN? What to put it? How to get it there? Right?

1263
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: You can't just say by this stuff, bro, that's I

1264
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: mean I get it. I see what you're doing, right,

1265
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: I get it. But I'm saying we gotta be a

1266
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: little more clear when we talk to each other. Not

1267
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: because we don't, not because not because we don't believe

1268
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: what we're saying is because we're in a new industry,

1269
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: don't nobody know how to approach it, or whatever a

1270
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: little bit we got, we gotta try to be Yeah,

1271
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 1: you know when they look at me and podcasts broad

1272
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 1: do this every week for hours, give a lot of

1273
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: game about a lot of different things. I'm persistent with this.

1274
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm persistent with this. I'm gonna go get it with this.

1275
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: I got to So for me, I get what he's saying.

1276
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me much. But we're dealing

1277
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: with people that's only looking at they phone, So we

1278
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: got to get them. Damn. They'll lead them under the

1279
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 1: water and still can't make them drink. We gotta lead

1280
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: them to the water and not be disappointed if they

1281
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: don't drink. That's the pressure on us because of the

1282
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: age we live in. The river cuts through a rock,

1283
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: not because of his strength, but because of his persistence

1284
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: higlive on through that. You ever seen that, but imagine

1285
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 1: Joe Buntinson with real rin mall. The only time you

1286
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: get to break generational curse, Mama might be looking at

1287
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: him like, yo, you blew the music bag. Family looking

1288
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: at That's a lot of pressure and I've worked hard.

1289
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: A lot of these people are coming to see me,

1290
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: but they are allowing me a runway loon, no loon,

1291
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: do a podcast by itself. I know how hard it is.

1292
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: They're allowed. They laying it up for you, getting out

1293
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: the way, letting you shine. Doing that. That's helpful, that's fruitful,

1294
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: and you were leveraging that for everything else. Take the

1295
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: ale on that, in my opinion, But who am I

1296
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: to say. I don't know how it broke down. I

1297
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: don't know what they were asking, what was happening. We'll

1298
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 1: get into that at some other point. But it's unfortunate

1299
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: to have that pressure on you were breaking. Everybody at

1300
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 1: Mama waiting, Mama waiting, she said, we just fine on Spotify.

1301
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: Mama waiting, baby, Mama waiting, kids waiting, family waiting, everybody waiting,

1302
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: and I'm waiting. I'm waiting to get the big house

1303
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 1: with the big beans, the fourteen thousand square foot motherfucker.

1304
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm waiting so everybody waiting. None of the chick come

1305
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: and these dudes that, Oh, but that's the percentage when

1306
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: you when you're rear, you got a rock with the percentage.

1307
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: Let's listen to a little more doing, you know what

1308
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I'm just like, all right, let me

1309
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: have a conversation. And that's when the conversation started happening.

1310
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: And you know, Roy myself, we just knew what it was.

1311
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,759
Speaker 1: And it was like, you know where this is headed?

1312
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm like, yeah, as a fan,

1313
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: I was watching it and I knew what it was

1314
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: because I didn't even want to see it happen. Nobody, nobody, right,

1315
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: We didn't want to see it happened. Like I said,

1316
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: we was dealing with that. We put it on the

1317
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: back burning for two years. Bro. We was asking to

1318
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 1: see you know, the logistics of the business and the

1319
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: accounting for almost two years, and we tried everything, man,

1320
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: because we didn't you know what I'm saying, Like I said,

1321
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: that was that was fam at one point, you know,

1322
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 1: he that was my like me and we lived together,

1323
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like me and this nigga

1324
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 1: lived together. Like so it's like bro, like I got

1325
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: you out of serious situations we did in since city.

1326
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: Niggas is ready to bomb on you, and I'm in frontline,

1327
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, like your whole chill

1328
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like I'm I'm jumping

1329
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: out there. I could have got my ship ripped and

1330
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: all kind of shit fucking with you, but you're my man,

1331
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna let it go down like that.

1332
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: So when we talk about business now and you start

1333
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: doing suckers shit, I'm looking at you like, Bro, you

1334
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: know this is me, Like what you're doing. I don't

1335
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: care about none of this shit enough to do no

1336
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: sucking shit to my friends, Like I'm not doing sucking

1337
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: shit to my friends, bro. And yeah, you know he

1338
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen him say, don't tell me to

1339
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: my friends. So maybe he don't feel like we was friends,

1340
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: but he can't never say I wasn't a friend to him.

1341
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: It's documented what I did for you, bro, Nigga. Anybody

1342
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: that was around you back they know like nigga nah,

1343
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm malay nah bro that that shit man. Like the

1344
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: niggas that called me when the whole shit happened, they

1345
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 1: was like bro, Like, I never thought that that would happen,

1346
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: And I'm just like nigga, you hey, I tried to

1347
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 1: avoid it. Yeah nah, because look, we all have awful conversations.

1348
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: You can have awkward friend conversations, right, You need to

1349
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 1: because you need to in order to get past it.

1350
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 1: Even see when the money is involved, Man, with this

1351
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: podcast thing, it being a new space, don't nobody really

1352
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: know what it's worth? Right? People say do it by yourself,

1353
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: like it's an easy thing. You didn't try to see

1354
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: what happened That co host is a crutch because we're

1355
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: all thinking it, you know what I'm saying, and we're

1356
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: all thinking it. It's just that somebody actually said it,

1357
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I think that's what

1358
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: happens a lot with friends. You know, we all kind

1359
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: of thinking the same shit. That's why we're friends. We

1360
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: kind of think of like we got similarities and shit

1361
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: in point of views. But I just think with us,

1362
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, when the money came into play, you know,

1363
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: it was more money than any of us ever seen,

1364
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I think you know

1365
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,839
Speaker 1: that kind of became a little That's what the relationship

1366
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: was tested you know what I'm saying. It's like they say,

1367
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, you want to know who your friends are,

1368
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 1: put a bunch of money on the table and just

1369
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: sit there. Everything's gonna be revealed, you know what I'm saying.

1370
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: And they're gonna show you how much you think you're worth,

1371
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: and they're gonna show you what you think about you.

1372
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. A lot of be revealed.

1373
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: And that's it's true. You know what I'm saying. And

1374
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: it's crazy because you know, with Rory and myself now

1375
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: we laugh at the way that we have some of

1376
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: these negotiations in these deals. It's like, bro, this is

1377
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: the easiest shit in the world when two niggas just

1378
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: totally get it in on the same type of shit

1379
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: and mentally and then as far as more rules and integrity,

1380
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: like me and Rory don't have no contract with each other.

1381
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: We got a hand shape and we got an LLC together,

1382
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: old school, that's it. You know what I'm saying. He

1383
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: called me, Yo, they want to do this, stut out

1384
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: what you think. I'm like, I'm like, Yo, if you

1385
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: want to do it, I'm rocking with you. Let's go.

1386
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: If you don't want to do it. Fuck him. It

1387
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 1: ain't no long you know what I'm saying. So when

1388
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: niggas try to put all that bullshit in the game,

1389
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 1: it takes time. Niggas just don't want to do it, Brom.

1390
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: Niggas be putting a lot of bullshit in the game,

1391
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: and oh yo, that nigga, he hain't called you. He

1392
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 1: called you back, Nigga cut it out, man, Like, what's

1393
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: going on because y'all playing these games? I don't play

1394
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 1: those games. All of that going. Oh man, it was nasty, bro.

1395
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: It was like I said, Man, there was so much

1396
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: shit going on that you know, it was unfortunate. But again, man,

1397
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: looking back to where we landed, Bro, I'm not you know,

1398
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: I know why it happened coincidence that after Joe put

1399
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: that out, because I think we had some dope. I

1400
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: thought we had some I grew up looking at video

1401
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: music box. I thought what we was doing was just

1402
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: a special to the coach. That's a fact, you know,

1403
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: a fact. So so yeah, that you know that bothers

1404
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: me because I think that ego got in the way

1405
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: of history. But I know what's on the way now,

1406
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: and I know what's happening now. So I mean after

1407
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: all of that, I mean, do you still I respect

1408
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: Joe for at least starting the platform and that's the

1409
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: end of the question. Yeah, I mean, I mean I

1410
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: don't respect him at all. You never shake his hand again,

1411
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 1: shake his hands. I'll shake the room before I shake

1412
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: his hand. Bro. That's just what it is, I mean,

1413
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, because like I said, it was, it's not

1414
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: even business or the money. It's a lot of money,

1415
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: a lot of money. So it's a lot of money, bro,

1416
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: that me and Rory walked away from. It's a lot

1417
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: of money that was taken out of our pockets, a

1418
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: lot of money that we still to this day. We

1419
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 1: don't have no lawyers going after it. Keep it. We

1420
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: got our own bag. But with that, with that money

1421
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 1: that we walked away from, and with that, you know

1422
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: what was old to us that we walked away from.

1423
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: That was also me walking away from a relationship in

1424
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: a chapter of my life that once I walk away,

1425
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, that door never opens again because it takes

1426
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 1: a lot to give me to that point. So once

1427
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm near, it's over, you know what I mean, It's over.

1428
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: It's just like I said, it ain't beef like it ain't.

1429
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: It ain't beef like it because that was really my

1430
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 1: friend at one point, So it's not beef. I don't

1431
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: have beef, bro Bro, listen, I don't have beef. I

1432
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: don't have beef for nobody. I'm not being out. I'm

1433
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: not beating nobody black. I always said, brom not doing it.

1434
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: But you know my number ain't changed. But niggas know

1435
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: they can't hit that line. You see what I'm saying, Like,

1436
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm not changing my number. I got the same numbers

1437
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: for fifteen years. Certain people just know they can't. They

1438
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: don't have access to me. Though you still got my number,

1439
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: and you don't have access to me. You know it's

1440
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: gonna be awkward if you called my fault. You know

1441
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be awkward if you tell. So people ain't

1442
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 1: gonna even do it. So it's like, you know, do

1443
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: I respect him? No? Do I think that he's intelligent? Yes?

1444
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: Do I think that he's a creative? Yes? Do I

1445
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: think that's he's done some some some good things with

1446
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: his life? Absolutely? Do I think as an MC as

1447
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: he is he dope? Yes? As a man, I can't.

1448
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm just cut different Rod. I don't mix with that.

1449
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I can't fuck with people

1450
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: that move like that. You gotta have integrity, bro, it's

1451
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:37,560
Speaker 1: unfortunate to see that. He said, Yo, I shake the

1452
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: room for I shake his hand. Them dudes were cool.

1453
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 1: A lot of money at stake. Business. It's business man,

1454
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 1: it's business. When I see people go through these public

1455
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: falling out, its like in this podcast space when I

1456
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 1: look at like Joe Button or maybe Be Marshall, because

1457
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 1: I even see a lot of clips of Be Marshall's

1458
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: counterparts or old co workers or whatever they are co

1459
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: host to am athlete shout out, be bashoot. They're they're

1460
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: speaking a lot mam speaking. You know, people speaking right,

1461
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: and it's like it's their story so they can speak.

1462
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: But I wonder what it feels like on the flip

1463
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: side to see your name and know like and then

1464
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: don't respond or keep it pushing. It's like that's player.

1465
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: But to me, that's hard to do. As they were

1466
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 1: building all up, Charlemagne again will reference that interview. What

1467
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: Charlemagne came into Joe Budden podcast and he spoke just

1468
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: a little bit about about mass position in the podcast

1469
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 1: space and when he added to the show let's listen

1470
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 1: to what he said. Don't have no I'm talking about

1471
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: that they hustle for everything, you know, they gotta nine

1472
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: to five and some other shit they're into, you know

1473
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And they you know, but they'll give

1474
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,600
Speaker 1: me the shirt off they back and ask them. And

1475
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: then I got niggas that's you know, wealthy that will

1476
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: do the same though. So it's like it's no in

1477
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 1: between with me, Like I don't care about like I said,

1478
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: it was about money, but it wasn't about money, you

1479
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was more so integrity and

1480
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: you know you're lying to your friends. Are you stealing

1481
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: from your friends? And then it's just you know, yeah,

1482
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, why how you throwing you I just

1483
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: don't understand throwing your ego on your homies like that

1484
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 1: shit is weird to me, bro, Like I just nah,

1485
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand that. I'm just not I mean,

1486
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 1: I tease these niggas all day, but yeah, that's that's

1487
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: what you ain't gonna you know, you ain't gonna get

1488
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 1: a nigga jacket. And then when the chicks come to

1489
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: the room, say, yo, don't spill nothing. On my jacket.

1490
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I don't even want no, No,

1491
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't come on. I'm all talking. Bro. We pot

1492
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: we potting, not nor sh you love now We're potting

1493
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,799
Speaker 1: because nah, bro, I watched these niggas bro every episode.

1494
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:04,759
Speaker 1: I know my nigga, nigga. I know views this nigga.

1495
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: All this shit to me, Nigga, I get. I was

1496
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 1: a part of that money that it was getting. Nigga.

1497
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: I was a reason nigga on the home on the couch.

1498
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: That was the reason I'm fine from the job. I'm

1499
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 1: like this nigga, Nigga. I was a reason nigga from

1500
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: my job. I was subscribe to everything nigga. Like, I

1501
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: was really watching this I'm saying so I couldn't even

1502
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: go back to an episode. I'm gonna keep it. Nah,

1503
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 1: he's talking, so you it was. Charlemagne was on the episode,

1504
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 1: you know that famous episode, Charlemagne, you and Rory and

1505
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah and Joe, Right, Charlemagne kind of said this was

1506
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: gonna happen better he did, he did. Charlemagne also said

1507
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 1: something else in that episode too. He said, this ship

1508
01:23:53,760 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: didn't start popping until Marl came on. And you know

1509
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: if looking at how everything happened. Now you can just see,

1510
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: you know, certain individual's body language when he said that,

1511
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: and how he cut right into a whole different conversation

1512
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 1: coming over that. It was kind of like, now I

1513
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: don't give him that, So you know what I mean,

1514
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: a lot of things start to, you know, make sense, man.

1515
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: And it's just unfortunate, bro, because like I said, I'm

1516
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: never in nothing with my homies for a check. You know,

1517
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 1: even with me and Rory, like we didn't know what

1518
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: the fuck we was gonna do, you know, and we

1519
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 1: Rory was, you know, so again he's talking about the

1520
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 1: infamous video was Charlemagne said that he's the reason that

1521
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: the podcast goes. I'm gonna bring y'all into that video,

1522
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 1: will come back with some commentary. Let's see what he said.

1523
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: It didn't work, It didn't translate in the room. He

1524
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: was okay, but he wasn't like he was. He's more,

1525
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: he's a lot more vocal now takes people time. But

1526
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: I mean the people we had on that show, ye

1527
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 1: had tax on that show. We had Jesus and Marrow.

1528
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: I like the Zorie Hall who's on the network now,

1529
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: Like that's why it bugs me out. And people like,

1530
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: oh you you hating on academics. Mul And, I didn't

1531
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 1: get a light, but that's fun. I just I just

1532
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: thought to hate about ball. By the way, Maul is

1533
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,520
Speaker 1: what mixed this podcast like he was the missing piece. Absolutely,

1534
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: he couldn't wait to fire. Thank you. I appreciate see

1535
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: you hear what he just said, and you wonder why

1536
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: I think he got rid of Marissa. So I thought,

1537
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: for those of you listening, this is what Maul was

1538
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,440
Speaker 1: referencing when he said he went right out the conversation

1539
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: and didn't coach saying so let's absolutely he couldn't wait

1540
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: to fire. Hating on academics. Mul And, I didn't get

1541
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 1: a light, but that's fun. I just, I just I

1542
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: just thought to hate about ball. By the way, Maul

1543
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: is what mixed this podcast like he was the missing piece. Absolutely,

1544
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 1: he couldn't wait to fire. Thank you. I appreciate see

1545
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 1: you hear what he just said, and you wonder why

1546
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: I think every day's problem he got rid of Marissa.

1547
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 1: So I thought very clear before before Academics did your podcast,

1548
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: I told him if I hear something I do not like,

1549
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm getting you fired. I don't I'm not. I'm not

1550
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: with the ship. I'm not with insubordination or people interrupting

1551
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: the fucking plan in the journey. You know, Marissa had

1552
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 1: to going do that. That's a whole different kind of

1553
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 1: Joe Budden back then. But I want to speak to

1554
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: the high level of jiu jitsu mental games that's happening.

1555
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: Right when you hear Mall reference Charlemagne that God said

1556
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: that let's be clear about something. Charlemagne that God is

1557
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 1: a wizard with this communication thing, and he had a

1558
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: certain amount of love for Joe Buden, and he was

1559
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,560
Speaker 1: co signing Joe. He was trying to get Joe established

1560
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: in Springboard and launched in the media space therefore by him. Now,

1561
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 1: do I believe Charlemagne believed Mall was the missing piece? Yeah,

1562
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yeah, Mall brought a certain amount of

1563
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: cool to the show. But I want to speak to

1564
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 1: the babies about the information involved in this encounter. Right,

1565
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: These dudes are so good at what they do. If

1566
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,719
Speaker 1: they had noted, if they know that you're co signing

1567
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,560
Speaker 1: your young co host and building them up, they'll go

1568
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: ahead and throw a co sign in there as well. Right, So,

1569
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: knowing you in the hell of a position where you

1570
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: you need my fans to look at you a certain way,

1571
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 1: you need people to look at you a certain way.

1572
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: You just find the girl. You guys are doing it

1573
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: in a vocal booth. I'm Charlemagne, So I see you

1574
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 1: building him up, Elio. So sometimes it's doing a solid

1575
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: for what you thought your homeboy was. But if you

1576
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: look at Joe Bro, Joe, you've had a lot of

1577
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: issues with people around you. I'm not sure what that's about.

1578
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: At that time. I would I would say that some

1579
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: of that even if Charlemagne believed that he could not

1580
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 1: say it. On error. Again, I want you guys to

1581
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: really understand that own error is a different thing. A

1582
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: lot of people call you and say things, and they

1583
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: say a lot behind the scenes on errors what get

1584
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: the ship rolling your way? So Charlemagne is on air

1585
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 1: co signing mall. In my opinion, some of that was

1586
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: knowing that Joe Button is building that brand or making

1587
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: that competition, whatever it may be. But I believe that

1588
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: that these dudes understand marketing and stuff from a high level,

1589
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: so they kind of understand that. All right, I see

1590
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: you building them up. Let me incorporate them some kind

1591
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: of way. That's my thought on that. We'll take a

1592
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: quick break and then we'll be back. Let's have a

1593
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: conversation about kim Porter. For those of you underwek kim

1594
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: Porter is the officer that killed Dante. Right, There was

1595
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: a situation where a stop was initiated, something about an

1596
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 1: air freshmen of hanging from the review mirror being some

1597
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: sort of infraction, right, and so they wanted to stop.

1598
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: One thing led to another. The young man is in

1599
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: the car, she hollowed taser, taser she shoots. This one

1600
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: is kind of rough on me because it feels like

1601
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: a mistake, unfortunate for beloved. Though the mistake isn't without impact.

1602
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 1: You know, an old mistake of me calling you the

1603
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: wrong name or something like that. You know, that's old

1604
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 1: mistake that we need to herr up and move passing.

1605
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 1: We don't necessarily need to plant our flags in the

1606
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 1: ground and go back and forth for a long time

1607
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: about that. But these kind of mistakes that impact not

1608
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 1: only us but the social environment. It rips the social

1609
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: fabric more and more. Every time a cop killed someone

1610
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: and it turns out to be a mistake of some sort,

1611
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: it rips the social fabric. It builds the wall that

1612
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,719
Speaker 1: Trump's talking about. While they were worried about the wall

1613
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 1: on the border, there was a wall being built between

1614
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: the people inside the United States, right, and so every

1615
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:23,719
Speaker 1: time that happens, the reaction from US is gonna always

1616
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: be hurt. Won't revenge thinking that it was intentional, because

1617
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 1: let's be clear, there are situations where we are intentionally

1618
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: being targeted for stops that turn in the killings. If

1619
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 1: you argue that black people are not being stopped at

1620
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 1: a high level in these neighborhoods than any other ethnicity,

1621
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 1: I think you have a real problem with understanding what

1622
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 1: the data looks like. And for me, when you argue

1623
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,839
Speaker 1: with a clown, you become a part of the circus.

1624
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 1: But kim Porter. As soon as she shot the guy,

1625
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: she dropped to the ground. I'm going to jail. Oh

1626
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: my god, it's a mistake. She couldn't even stand up,

1627
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: looked like she was devastated at what took place. And

1628
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 1: so within the walls of the court, you get in

1629
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: there and certain things happen. Right, It's a long drawn

1630
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: out process. In court, they deal with the specifics. The

1631
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 1: thing about the court though they can leave some things out.

1632
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: That's very, very, very influential in how the case should

1633
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 1: be viewed. But then that's when you get into lawyers

1634
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:37,640
Speaker 1: and how they fight for whatever it is that they do.

1635
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: I was amazed because I looked at it and I've

1636
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 1: seen JT from the City Girls tweet that kim Porter

1637
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: got the same amount of time as me for fraud.

1638
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: So now I zoom out even more and I say,

1639
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 1: damn man, what system are we into where these two

1640
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: things are viewed along the same lines? Right? How do

1641
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:03,600
Speaker 1: you go from being told to protect and serve to

1642
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 1: being paid to train people on how to use a

1643
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 1: taser instead of a gun and when to do so, when,

1644
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 1: when the implement, and when the d escalate. You're the

1645
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 1: training you've been training people for that. You got a

1646
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: rookie with you because you wanted them, you wanted the

1647
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: big dogs. Right? How do we view that in the

1648
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 1: same sector as someone taking advantage of a system that's

1649
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: in place. I feel as though, like I say, man,

1650
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 1: when you deal with the court system is broken. When

1651
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 1: it was all said and done and she got a time,

1652
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: she was able to talk, and she got up there

1653
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 1: and she weeped, I mean she weeped. All I'm telling me,

1654
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: she was crying, and a lot of people called camp

1655
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 1: on that. A lot of people said that were fake.

1656
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't believe that was fake crying. I always tell

1657
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 1: people that it ain't about what's happening, it's about why

1658
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: it's happening. You see a lot of people perspective be

1659
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: of all, you got the right. I ain't your talk.

1660
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: It's just wrong, right. I think she cryed for real.

1661
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 1: Do I think she crymed because of what she done

1662
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,560
Speaker 1: or because she got caught. I think the pressure. I

1663
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: think she can really feel that pressure in that moment,

1664
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 1: and that in itself will make you cry. I'm a

1665
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 1: police officer on trial in this time for kit shooting

1666
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,919
Speaker 1: a guy like yo. This is a lot of pressure

1667
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 1: that them that will make you crying, right, And you

1668
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: can mask that as I'm crying because of what happened

1669
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: to beloved, But this pressure is a lot. So again

1670
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't look at that and say she

1671
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: was fake crying. I looked at that and said, you

1672
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 1: wonder why she's crying. But the human is the hell

1673
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 1: of a design, right, the human brain those times, because

1674
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 1: the when when accountability to show up, all the bravado

1675
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: leave You see guys that you know when they was

1676
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: a cop, they had a certain bravado about him pulling

1677
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 1: you out the car and you better do it type

1678
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 1: vibration about him. Then accountability to show up, and then

1679
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 1: they do everything they can to get small to appear

1680
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:20,919
Speaker 1: little right, and I just think that unfortunate for everybody involved.

1681
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 1: But at this time we got to view these things

1682
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 1: with the future in Man, we're teaching people how to

1683
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,640
Speaker 1: treat us. We're teaching people what have happened when you

1684
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 1: pull one of eyes out the car and shoot him

1685
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 1: when you get it wrong that he had that it

1686
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: was a tail light, It was a tail light out

1687
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: and you got it wrong and you end up killing him. Right,

1688
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:49,639
Speaker 1: some of these things are interesting, you know, Like I say, Man,

1689
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: and I think it needs a strong looking that in

1690
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 1: my opinion. So again, she only got two years, so

1691
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 1: the police always said they killed Dante. Right, that got

1692
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 1: the same amount of time for JT for doing fraud.

1693
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: Is at court now about to I guess, give her

1694
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 1: closing arguments or her closing statement to the family and

1695
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 1: to other people. So let's take a look at the

1696
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:16,839
Speaker 1: officer who killed Dante Wright, who got the same amount

1697
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 1: of time as JT from the City Girls for fraud.

1698
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 1: And see what she said at court to the family

1699
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 1: of Dante. Right, I am so sorry thought I brought

1700
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: the death of your son, father, brother, uncle, grandson, nephew

1701
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 1: and the rest of your family to your home. Katie.

1702
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: I understand the mother's love, and I am sorry I

1703
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 1: broke your heart. So you see, that's that's the lady

1704
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 1: that that's the officer that killed Dante. Right. They got

1705
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 1: the same amount of time as JT from the City

1706
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 1: Girls for doing fraud. We're listening to her lives. Look

1707
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: at you during the trial. I don't believe I had

1708
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 1: a right too. I didn't even have a rage behind

1709
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 1: the scene. And I'm not speaking whether or not these

1710
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 1: things or sincere. Let me be clear on that. I'm

1711
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 1: not saying these things are not sincere. I'm questioning why

1712
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 1: because I understand the pressure that going along with that.

1713
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 1: And then you all alone. See you was out there

1714
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 1: three four, five cops when the killing go down, Then

1715
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 1: you end up all alone, like they do us all

1716
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 1: the time, held accountable for things. But the difference between

1717
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 1: us and them is we have a harsher sentence, a

1718
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 1: harsher outlook, a harshall outcome on these things. Then most

1719
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 1: of these individuals it is trained not to do some

1720
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 1: of the things. We will never talk. You can find

1721
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 1: forgiveness only because hatred is so destructive to all of us.

1722
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 1: And I pray he will always be with you and

1723
01:36:55,640 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 1: your family. Sorry to the community of the Brooklyn Center,

1724
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: I do all you apology too. I loved working for you.

1725
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: I believe she's stressed out. I believe she's crying. I

1726
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: don't know though, you know, but I believe that is

1727
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: a cry. Just want to understand where the cry is

1728
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 1: coming from. Thank you your so again. Man, What gets

1729
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 1: more and more clear as I gain more knowledge and

1730
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,799
Speaker 1: as I get older? Right, what gets more and more clears?

1731
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 1: These ain't even magic tricks no more. These people is

1732
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 1: blade lying your face, doing a lot of these things,

1733
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 1: treating these things different right in front of our faces.

1734
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 1: This ain't a thing. What they even are doing it

1735
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 1: behind closed doors. It's it's right in the front. It's

1736
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 1: right front center, and we front roll. Here's an officer.

1737
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 1: They killed Dante Wright. They got the same amount of

1738
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 1: time as JT from the City Girls for fraud and

1739
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:13,679
Speaker 1: as the judge ended. The judge read off and said

1740
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 1: some things that caught my attention to judge said that

1741
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 1: as she set up in the middle of the night,

1742
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 1: she got letter after letter after letter from this, you know,

1743
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:32,719
Speaker 1: from people that support this lady kim Porter, the officer

1744
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 1: that killed Dante writing got the same amount of time

1745
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,560
Speaker 1: as JT from the city girls. But it was it

1746
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 1: was interesting to hear her say I got a lot

1747
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:45,679
Speaker 1: of letters and I read them all. And I instantly said,

1748
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: hold on, don't stop right there, because does that only

1749
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 1: work when y'all let it work? Because we write letters

1750
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 1: for a lot of vibe entertainers, athletes, people that make mistakes,

1751
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: and they don't seem to get the job done. I

1752
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 1: remember a time Meek had jay Z and Michael Rubin

1753
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 1: and these people in court and it was ignored. So

1754
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 1: help me understand when the judge starts to consider those things, right,

1755
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 1: I know, you say some bring some some character witnesses.

1756
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 1: I said, consider them. Understand I do. This is what

1757
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 1: I do for a living. I ain't say. It's almost

1758
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 1: like the Rouned rule in the NFL, where they say, yo,

1759
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 1: you got to interview a couple of the people. Man

1760
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: they interviewing you, man, if they can have their phone

1761
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 1: out and you wouldn't take an offensive, they'll promise you

1762
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 1: they listening looking at their phone, you understand. So sometimes

1763
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 1: it is implemented, but it ain't respect it to the

1764
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 1: point where I've ever heard the judge take it in

1765
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:50,559
Speaker 1: consideration when the murder was that at the hands of someone. Right.

1766
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 1: But I always explained to my homies right that the

1767
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 1: court room operate with a certain language. You can thank you,

1768
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 1: you can thank you. There's attack out here operating with

1769
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: all that bitch and hole in your vocabulary. But then

1770
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: you get behind that, and everything is in a book,

1771
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:11,679
Speaker 1: and it's a bunch of pages, and it's a certain

1772
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 1: it's a code to get to a section T, section two,

1773
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 1: pay T one eighty of this like yo, it's a

1774
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: code to get in there and say explain. And everything

1775
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 1: is in there that you may need to beat your case,

1776
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 1: or the information you may need to not only beat

1777
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 1: your case, but present it in a way. Because business

1778
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 1: is no longer about it's about how things are presented,

1779
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 1: and in the courtroom it's just big business. So you

1780
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 1: got to present those things in a way. And dudes

1781
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 1: are going the courtroom with this hood type game they

1782
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 1: think they're putting down and it don't translate. You know,

1783
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 1: you be saying things like I have one of my

1784
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 1: homeboys telling me something like, you know, you might hear

1785
01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: a dude say, man, you can pass a drug test

1786
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 1: by Oh you gotta do. Take a little little you know,

1787
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 1: you gotta do. Take a little bit of bottle bleach.

1788
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 1: Didn't put it right on your hand, Piss on your

1789
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:09,640
Speaker 1: hand and let the piss go on your hand to

1790
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 1: the water and that right there, you're gonna beat the test.

1791
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 1: Dudes are running try that on ten years parole with

1792
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 1: a probation. Ain't done no kind of research on it.

1793
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 1: Just boom fade him. Did he say, hey, you you dirty? Now?

1794
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't it. It's just you're just taking what these

1795
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 1: guys are saying. So you know, I don't listen to nobody.

1796
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't believe nobody. I listen to everybody. I don't

1797
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 1: believe nobody. Right, you got to show me. I keep

1798
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 1: telling people, it's about legacy. It's about who's gonna say

1799
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 1: what about you when it said and done? Who life

1800
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 1: you change, who you helped get up down through there

1801
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 1: and really makes something that my question. But it's just

1802
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: sad to see that the officity killed Dante. Right. They

1803
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 1: got the same amount of time as JT from the

1804
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 1: City Girls for fraud. You know, she seems to be hurt.

1805
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 1: But then people can't brain they they saw him back

1806
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: their father back the idea that you craft, do you

1807
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 1: kill me? Man? You feel the idea that the people

1808
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 1: are craft do they kill you? Man? You gotta think

1809
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 1: about the psyche man, you know, and again, I understand accidents,

1810
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 1: I know things happening. I'm no longer even talking about

1811
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 1: the officer that killed Dante, right. They got the same

1812
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 1: amount of time as JT from the City Girls for fraud.

1813
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 1: I'm no longer even talking about who. I'm just talking

1814
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 1: about the idea that dudes that kill you and then

1815
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 1: cry to the people about it. The idea that like

1816
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 1: even when Honeycombe braids and shout out Honeycombe, they say,

1817
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:50,919
Speaker 1: whoever that is was just indicted for killing his grandma

1818
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: was in prison with him in the sey rapping and cool,

1819
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 1: I understand it being in prison with somebody that don't

1820
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: make him my homing, being a silly with somebody that

1821
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 1: don't make him a home. At a certain amount of time,

1822
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 1: you probably build a report. But if it's there, and

1823
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 1: if there's any outside influence on how our relationship can

1824
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 1: be dictated, like there's blood on one side or something

1825
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:18,599
Speaker 1: like that, we can only be a certain amount of cool.

1826
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 1: So I don't think the video speaks to without hearing it,

1827
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it speaks to the level of the relationship.

1828
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 1: But the two it just means they know each other,

1829
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:32,560
Speaker 1: which you know, you gotta know who I am to

1830
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 1: know what my granting them stays. So all those things together, man,

1831
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: shout out the brazen man. You know, it's a mean situation.

1832
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 1: I sent my prayers to him. But we're gonna get

1833
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 1: off of the office that it killed Dante Wright. They

1834
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,560
Speaker 1: got the same amount of time as JT from the

1835
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 1: City Girls for fraud, and we're gonna see what else

1836
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: we want to talk about today. Coming off Valentine, let

1837
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 1: me say this to the latest right, let me say

1838
01:43:56,400 --> 01:44:00,600
Speaker 1: this to whoever caused themselves engaging in the relationship but

1839
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 1: wanting someone to take it to the next level. Baby,

1840
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 1: make it obvious. See that's one of my sayings. That's

1841
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 1: something that I came up with. You know, make it

1842
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,599
Speaker 1: where I got to. You know, when you show up.

1843
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 1: You add value to whatever the situation is. Make it obvious.

1844
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 1: How I'm gonna live without how you do me when

1845
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 1: we're around each other. How you gonna live without how

1846
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 1: I do you when we are around each other. And yeah,

1847
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 1: the piece that we provide each other. Yeah, the platform

1848
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 1: to exhale and prevail, we provide each other, how we

1849
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 1: intertwine and integrate our lives to complement one another. Right.

1850
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 1: But in my opinion, it's a situation that too many

1851
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 1: people depend on the pass. They think the past can

1852
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 1: dictate the future. They think that they can tell you

1853
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 1: they look what I've done, so you can figure out

1854
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,599
Speaker 1: what I'll do in the future. One of the present moment,

1855
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm doing nothing you gonna see. Making it obvious, that's

1856
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 1: a that's a run on word that ain't it ain't

1857
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 1: a word that stops. Obvious speaks to the present moment.

1858
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 1: So every present moment you gotta deal with that word obvious.

1859
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 1: It don't speak to man. You used to make it obvious.

1860
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 1: You used to make me, non said baby, make it obvious, man.

1861
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 1: That means every present moment, every moment we spend around

1862
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:34,559
Speaker 1: each other. Do we think that problems gonna come problems

1863
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 1: gonna come. Disagreements is necessary for understanding, which is the

1864
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 1: best thing to have. How we not gonna disagree somebody faking,

1865
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:49,839
Speaker 1: We ain't come out the same somebody faking and anything

1866
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 1: faking is gonna fall. And we know that the foundation

1867
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,879
Speaker 1: got to be a certain kind of you know, structure,

1868
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 1: so we can't play those games. My thing always being

1869
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 1: and though in relationships, that's why you don't never really

1870
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 1: gotta tell a woman, right Yo, you know you just yeah,

1871
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 1: you just yeah, you know you see what I'm doing.

1872
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:14,559
Speaker 1: You know, eventually you're just gonna be like, nah, where

1873
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 1: you are, Why you ain't calling me, why you ain't

1874
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 1: been around? Right. I have made it obvious what it's

1875
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 1: like next to me again obviously speaks to the present moment.

1876
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 1: Don't try to lean on the past thing. I'm gonna

1877
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 1: be dumb for what you did in the past for me. Yeah,

1878
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 1: the past. I'm saying, like, Yo, I rolled with you,

1879
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 1: I was with you when you was Yeah, you was.

1880
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 1: You were critical of me too the whole time. But

1881
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 1: you're critical of me when it was when it was

1882
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 1: when the lights was damn because they ain't gonna never

1883
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 1: be off. If you're a hustler. The lights won't go off,

1884
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 1: they might get damn, But when the lights were damn

1885
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 1: for me, you were critical of me. And now that

1886
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 1: is bright everything out right. And you think I'm smart

1887
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 1: enough to turn ship in the sugar and I ain't

1888
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 1: smart enough to peep somebody doing something like that while

1889
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 1: they're next to me. It be offensive with all due respect,

1890
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 1: because it's like, you see the game we put down.

1891
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 1: You see the kind of things we figure out, we

1892
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 1: make it through on it. You see I was on

1893
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 1: TV with blood with mud on my hand from trying

1894
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 1: to figure out you see what I was doing with

1895
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 1: a dnchon and you thought that little game that you're running,

1896
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 1: what's gonna put a blindfold on my eyes? Like I

1897
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 1: don't see you using me. I know I'm useless to

1898
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 1: you people if I'm not resourceful. I'm clear on where

1899
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 1: we stand. I just want you to be clear that

1900
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm clear on it. It ain't no tricking dude, now, dude,

1901
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 1: them is too swift. Ain't no tricking them dude. But

1902
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:55,719
Speaker 1: in relationships, provide some spice it up, keep it spiced.

1903
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 1: If you didn't want to dude with a bag, you

1904
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:00,639
Speaker 1: got to figure out how to make You shouldn't keep

1905
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: him engaged because where he goes, they're trying to ask

1906
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 1: for his algorithm. Yeah, everywhere I go as women asking

1907
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 1: for my algorithm? How do I tap into that? You

1908
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: understand me and for me? Like I say, when you

1909
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 1: win these relationships for a long amount of time, Man,

1910
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 1: you gotta edit as you go up, the same way

1911
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 1: you do in business, the same way you do with everything.

1912
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 1: When you get older, you eat different, you gotta work

1913
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 1: out a little different. Right when you're younger, you can do.

1914
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's the same with anything that's aging. And

1915
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 1: so if our relationship is aging, how foolish of us

1916
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 1: to ignore the obvious. We gotta grow together, though, and

1917
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't really understand what that looks like.

1918
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 1: And we need more platforms like this to speak on

1919
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 1: things like that, because we're loving people. You no, our

1920
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:56,639
Speaker 1: women love first, I mean love lads. We both love hard.

1921
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 1: A lot of times. By the time do fall in love,

1922
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:03,600
Speaker 1: she's falling out of love, and then it's just a

1923
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 1: vicious thing. Right. Takes takes so long for us to

1924
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 1: accept not being hurt by someone. Right, take a long

1925
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 1: time for us to trying to peek over and make

1926
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 1: sure you ain't this am I being pumped? As my

1927
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 1: mother say, right, you're trying to look and make sure,

1928
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 1: because you're destined for disappointment based on trust. Right where

1929
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:37,120
Speaker 1: we come from, it ain't that much trust hanging around you, understand.

1930
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:39,600
Speaker 1: So when you bump into somebody with a relationship, you

1931
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 1: tend to be looking as a man, specially man with she.

1932
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 1: I don't have a mental room for no more that

1933
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 1: far as far as what love does to you, right

1934
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 1: when you got to disconnect, because he the problem be

1935
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 1: that at some point you may have to disconnect, and

1936
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 1: that disconnect I can do something to your mind, which

1937
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 1: does something to your work, which does something to your pay,

1938
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 1: which does something to your lifestyle, you see, And I

1939
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 1: can keep going and going and going. And so it

1940
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 1: takes a life for me to say, all right, come

1941
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 1: on in, because I know if I let you in

1942
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 1: here and I got to kick you out of here.

1943
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 1: And I'm speaking in metaphors in regards to my love,

1944
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 1: my personal love. Right I let you in here, and

1945
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,639
Speaker 1: for any reason, I gotta rip you off and rip

1946
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 1: you out of there. That's gonna hurt me, and it's

1947
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 1: gonna do something to you're not sure if you're to

1948
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 1: hurt you or how you feel about it, but it's

1949
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,720
Speaker 1: gonna do something to me, So I stay guarded. But

1950
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 1: by the time you find like, all right, I'm letting,

1951
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:42,599
Speaker 1: I'm I'm starting to let you in. She didn't had

1952
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 1: enough for trying to fight through that to figure out

1953
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 1: if fat You know, so it be a be a

1954
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 1: weird thing, and you gotta be patient because love is patient.

1955
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 1: Love is patient, you know. I tell people, you say

1956
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,759
Speaker 1: you love a person and you interfere with their dreams

1957
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 1: or you like how you helping them, How you add

1958
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 1: and add some add some, add some add some that

1959
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:13,760
Speaker 1: go for men, women add some every situation I'm a

1960
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 1: part of I'm adding something. If you see me, I'm

1961
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 1: adding something. I get with a girl, I'm adding some,

1962
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm upgrading something, I'm informing something. But we can't be

1963
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 1: broke trying to date. You know, they say romance without

1964
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 1: finance don't stand a chance. So we can't be broke

1965
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 1: trying to date. I'm trying to tell a shout it, yo,

1966
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:38,919
Speaker 1: I'm going multi MILLI and I'm here. I was already

1967
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:44,440
Speaker 1: you understand cool, street cool or cool, but we motie

1968
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 1: what we're doing. I'm up. I'm mad it what we're doing.

1969
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 1: Let's get it right. And I mean that. I don't

1970
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 1: play with that. I'm more committed than anybody. Anybody know,

1971
01:51:58,120 --> 01:52:01,560
Speaker 1: you can only be as committed as me. I stamped that.

1972
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:06,320
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody in the game more committed than me. You

1973
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 1: can only be as committed as me. And I stamped

1974
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 1: that with this podcast thing. It's man. I own it.

1975
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 1: I built it, built, not bought. I built it. It's

1976
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 1: my business. It's my business when they don't like it.

1977
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 1: It's my business. When they criticize it, it's man. When

1978
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:29,879
Speaker 1: they critical of him, it's still my business. It belongs

1979
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 1: to me. But it's also man when they embrace it.

1980
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 1: It's also man when it evolves. It's also man when

1981
01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:43,560
Speaker 1: it educates. It's mine. It's mine. I built it. I

1982
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 1: didn't bad. You're looking at a builder, not a buyer.

1983
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:54,760
Speaker 1: I love all my investors, but you're looking at a founder, right,

1984
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 1: And it's a different walk I got. I don't need

1985
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 1: no cane. I gotta deal sway with me because you're

1986
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 1: dealing with the buildes, right, And I think it's just

1987
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:10,600
Speaker 1: important we separated. It's important. Everybody's job is important to

1988
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 1: teeth only work when they all bite together. I get that,

1989
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:17,640
Speaker 1: but you're dealing with a builder when you're on this

1990
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 1: side of the street, when you get when you see

1991
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 1: me around anything, we building something that's a fact, that's

1992
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 1: a complete center. And I just want to get that

1993
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 1: out there to the world. Let's talk about Dana La

1994
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 1: brother Swing the baby. For those of you may be unaware,

1995
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 1: the baby was in a fight at a bowling alley

1996
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 1: when he was approached by Dana Lay, which is the

1997
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 1: mother of his child's brother. Sourts to say he was

1998
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:47,560
Speaker 1: asking for a fade for one on one with a

1999
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 1: multimillion dollar dude. Right, So at that time, as I

2000
01:53:56,200 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 1: would have expected, people intervene, he left that engine and

2001
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 1: then a lawsuit pops up. Lawsuit pops up stating that

2002
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 1: the baby was in the wrong for the encounter, being

2003
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:19,640
Speaker 1: at a place that he was invited to, he was

2004
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 1: on the bill to be and being approached by a

2005
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 1: guy who's made threats online, who's made threats on line

2006
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 1: about what he wants to do and what it is

2007
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 1: with me and him, and to cut through six thousand people,

2008
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 1: it were dunk in there. You know the pair, you

2009
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 1: know what type time you got to be on the

2010
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 1: cut through all them people to come to me and

2011
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 1: ask me for one on one fight? What did you

2012
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 1: even on? You understand? So the idea that people are

2013
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:58,800
Speaker 1: saying that he can't say that he was threatened because

2014
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:01,200
Speaker 1: we know that in court o everybody, Oh you want

2015
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 1: to play that little game that that right there? All right,

2016
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm coming in court like this. Well, I was afraid

2017
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 1: of my life, he has said on there, and so

2018
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. Let the judge figure it out.

2019
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:14,080
Speaker 1: We'll hang you up in this ship for three four

2020
01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:17,360
Speaker 1: years if you want to, let's do it. But it's

2021
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:22,080
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate because I knew. I told you last week dout,

2022
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 1: I'll let party, and they put you in the trick

2023
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 1: bag because again, it could have went different. You hit me,

2024
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:31,320
Speaker 1: talk right, you hit me. Say how you gonna threaten

2025
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 1: me and then sue me. You're gonna threaten that, you're

2026
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 1: gonna do something to me, and then you're gonna suit

2027
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 1: me as I do something to you for trying to

2028
01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 1: do something to me? How do you how does that

2029
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 1: even work? But that's what I mean when he say

2030
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 1: he couldn't have really wanted to fight because in my mind,

2031
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 1: I say this if I really want to thump and

2032
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 1: this dude heating six thousand people in here, have a

2033
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 1: many people in here, and I get this close, I'm

2034
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 1: fine on him. Bam here what here it is because

2035
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm feeling it's feeling go down, but I'm hitting him.

2036
01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 1: This is who I'm looking for. He here, This is

2037
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 1: my man. Fight y'all, let's get it. You feel me.

2038
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 1: But he went over to talk. It almost like he

2039
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 1: was trying to put him in a trick bag. I'm

2040
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 1: telling you, man, I'm telling you, man. But the baby

2041
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 1: can get in courting and say that he was threatened. Man,

2042
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 1: the baby didn't go to court and say dude said

2043
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 1: anything to him. That dude could have walked up and

2044
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 1: we don't know what he said. He could have walked

2045
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 1: up on him. I got a bomb strapped to me. Nigga,

2046
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 1: say wrong, nigga, I got a bomb on me. Like

2047
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 1: dude could have said anything to do so all he

2048
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 1: gonna all, he gonna go say it. Man, that man

2049
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 1: told me he fitna kill me, stabbed me. Man. I

2050
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 1: fired on that man. I'm trying to neutralize this dude.

2051
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 1: This dude just said, you know yeah, so in the

2052
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:50,040
Speaker 1: courtroom it's gonna play out like that. But I just

2053
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 1: don't I thought he was because pee a lot of people.

2054
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 1: I even said he'd probably sue before many he wasn't

2055
01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 1: none happening, So I was like, oh, he might be

2056
01:56:57,480 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: keeping in the street. And I really think a rap

2057
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 1: nigga gets scared if you don't sue. If you get

2058
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 1: the fighting with him and you don't sue, he kind

2059
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 1: of think you're going the other route with he better

2060
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 1: think that. He better think if you found me and

2061
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed, don't lying there was and I don't post

2062
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 1: nothing to say nothing. Man, they got they got somebody

2063
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:24,120
Speaker 1: to trying to come see somebody boy the dog man. Yeah,

2064
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:27,000
Speaker 1: they got somebody that's trying to come see somebody about

2065
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 1: a dog. If I ain't saying nothing about it, you

2066
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 1: feel me. So when you file lawsuit, it's like, oh, man,

2067
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:35,680
Speaker 1: them the games he was playing. But the whole industry

2068
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 1: kind of felt that to begin with. But again, I

2069
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:40,960
Speaker 1: tell y'all, don't never go on the trick bag. And

2070
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:43,440
Speaker 1: in security was in the wrong. He ain't post it

2071
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 1: got that close. But everybody chilling. I need the white

2072
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 1: boys with me with the little glasses. Yeah, I need

2073
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 1: them with me. Who ain't they don't chill or them

2074
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 1: dudes to be with Farrakhan. They're not chilling. They they

2075
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 1: like it right there. They don't put out. They watching

2076
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:04,920
Speaker 1: little shit to watch. Dude in the black right there,

2077
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 1: he keeps circling around. Don't know what this issue is.

2078
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:09,800
Speaker 1: They got a nig on his age, You feel me?

2079
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm I need them kind of dudes around me,

2080
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 1: because man, what if he was snuck in there with

2081
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 1: a knife, What if he could have got it? What

2082
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 1: if he could have knew baby was coming there this week?

2083
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:24,840
Speaker 1: Two days before winning there, put a knife in the

2084
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:28,600
Speaker 1: bathroom somewhere, headed somewhere, didn't come back in there when

2085
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 1: baby there get the knife, get that closer. Huh huh.

2086
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 1: And so like, I don't see how they're gonna say that.

2087
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 1: You know, self defense ain't a thing bro for me.

2088
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 1: I just had to let it play out. But right now,

2089
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 1: I always tell y'all, don't go on the trick bad.

2090
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep bowling while they're whooping you. I'm steady

2091
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 1: bowled and I ain't even turned around. Like fifty dune,

2092
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 1: some ship was happening on stage one time fifty didn't

2093
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:56,440
Speaker 1: even turn around. Ain't no sending me looking at and

2094
01:58:56,480 --> 01:59:00,200
Speaker 1: I ain't response before. Yeah, I ain't response before, or

2095
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 1: everybody their mama can say, I'm responded before. I ain't

2096
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 1: even see it. You're gonna make me see it, Okay,

2097
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 1: prove I saw it if I never looked that way,

2098
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 1: somebody brain whoever you want to win court, say prove

2099
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 1: I saw it because I didn't see it. And them

2100
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:19,320
Speaker 1: the kind of things. You gotta know how to navigate

2101
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 1: around something getting handled. When you were meetings and you

2102
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:26,280
Speaker 1: in there see how dudes, or even with Jay on

2103
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:29,000
Speaker 1: the elevator, you see how he can't rack a certain way.

2104
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 1: You know what this is. You know what's at stake.

2105
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 1: Fit They gotta keep like he don't even see what's

2106
01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:40,200
Speaker 1: happening right here, You understand. So you gotta pay attention, bro,

2107
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 1: But don't never security. Don't let nobody get close to

2108
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:45,720
Speaker 1: the artist. Man, keep them artists. Hey, don't walk over,

2109
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 1: no sir, I'll put you down. But guess who we

2110
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:52,200
Speaker 1: got with him? Now? He got the cane nigga back

2111
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 1: with him, and everybody know that cane nigga gonna put

2112
01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 1: some down. Yeah, that cane nigga, one of the biggest

2113
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:03,680
Speaker 1: you beans on this side of breathing. Boy man. That

2114
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 1: the old boy bodyguard, nigga security nigga, old big nigga. Boy.

2115
02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking by one of the biggest niggas. Yo, ain't

2116
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 1: gonna get it done and ain't started getting it done

2117
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 1: on whoever or whatever you claiming. He gonna get it done.

2118
02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:23,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna respect it or you're gonna get to care.

2119
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 1: I didn't see the two minute time with that big

2120
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 1: old dude. But if y'all don't know that nigga, that's

2121
02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:34,160
Speaker 1: a big nigga home, a big nigga home. And he

2122
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: went him now, so gonna run up again. He's gonna

2123
02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:39,960
Speaker 1: break your jaw this time and then boys is not going.

2124
02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 1: But speaking of the baby, he's had a last But

2125
02:00:44,680 --> 02:00:47,280
Speaker 1: speaking of the baby, he had a he has had

2126
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 1: a rough couple of months or year, last year and

2127
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 1: a half been rough on him. Um. I think the

2128
02:00:54,400 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 1: first thing he done was the Tory lays thing and

2129
02:00:58,480 --> 02:01:01,120
Speaker 1: shout of the relationship with Meg by doing that, and

2130
02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 1: I think him and Tory may be cool, but I

2131
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:07,960
Speaker 1: don't see that translating in the same way as him

2132
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:09,720
Speaker 1: and Meg. So I'm not sure how to view that,

2133
02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:12,920
Speaker 1: but from a business standpoint, I think that people that

2134
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:15,680
Speaker 1: view numbers in whatever they view and how they look

2135
02:01:15,720 --> 02:01:18,800
Speaker 1: at us and us as artists or pot us or

2136
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 1: just entertainers or earners, that'll be viewed as a mistake

2137
02:01:25,400 --> 02:01:28,360
Speaker 1: by them. Whether they say it or not, it's one thing,

2138
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:30,800
Speaker 1: but they'll say, you and Meg has some special she

2139
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:33,520
Speaker 1: has a machine behind him, We have a machine behind you.

2140
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:37,880
Speaker 1: That marriage was great for your career, and you you

2141
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:40,360
Speaker 1: align yourself with Tory names. And we're not sure what

2142
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:45,600
Speaker 1: the circumstance surrounding that was about, but I definitely think

2143
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:48,640
Speaker 1: that was just trying to help, do you know, kind

2144
02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:50,960
Speaker 1: of how Kanye is doing and things like that, kind

2145
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:53,280
Speaker 1: of how you see us trying to help each other.

2146
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:56,480
Speaker 1: But the baby was still new, was still a new

2147
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:58,840
Speaker 1: artist at that time. Or make a shit load of money,

2148
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:02,520
Speaker 1: made its shit load of money. But with that and

2149
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:05,200
Speaker 1: with the several lawsuits he's been a part of, or

2150
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:07,800
Speaker 1: or the several charges that he's been a part of

2151
02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:13,400
Speaker 1: in regards to publicly and from a label standpoint of

2152
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:17,400
Speaker 1: people to view numbers, people that sitting there looking at

2153
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:22,320
Speaker 1: olds and ones and exes and olds. You know, you've

2154
02:02:22,320 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 1: been in a couple of different lawsuits. He's been the

2155
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:28,640
Speaker 1: jail situation with down the Lake public said the thing

2156
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:31,600
Speaker 1: about the aids had them people on him, you know,

2157
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 1: just in various situations where it just it's been rocky

2158
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:39,560
Speaker 1: for him. For me, I've always said in my opinion,

2159
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:42,400
Speaker 1: and I could be wrong, but I think it's worth

2160
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:46,160
Speaker 1: having the conversation just because again I'm critical of information

2161
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:48,680
Speaker 1: and putting information out to my babies, the people that

2162
02:02:49,480 --> 02:02:51,440
Speaker 1: all of us, for all of us just to eat

2163
02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:57,240
Speaker 1: it up or just expound on it. But in my opinion,

2164
02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:00,480
Speaker 1: on the Taylor and that whole label had moved on

2165
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:07,000
Speaker 1: to Tutsie, and I didn't see Interscope behind the baby

2166
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:09,040
Speaker 1: anymore like I used to it if you knew him

2167
02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:13,320
Speaker 1: and him and money Bag was one A one B

2168
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 1: on Interscope for a little bit right there, right when

2169
02:03:16,280 --> 02:03:19,240
Speaker 1: they made that first transition, the Interscope got involved in

2170
02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:23,160
Speaker 1: both moves. But I haven't heard Interscope lately with the baby.

2171
02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure his business still to be cleared over there.

2172
02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:28,680
Speaker 1: But interesting that they've bagged up as you see the

2173
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:31,840
Speaker 1: oppositeble money Bag. There's more and more things happening in

2174
02:03:31,880 --> 02:03:34,760
Speaker 1: that shoots. That's Calvin Klein. This that he was on

2175
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:37,600
Speaker 1: that trajectory. If you remember, he had a clothing designer

2176
02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:42,520
Speaker 1: right after he said the things about the things he

2177
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:48,280
Speaker 1: said about AIDS that he apologized for, clothing designer Porler

2178
02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:53,080
Speaker 1: Festival left Paul Paul from a business perspective. In those

2179
02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:55,840
Speaker 1: of you who may not understand this, again, I just

2180
02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 1: think it's worth speaking about. At some point, it just

2181
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:02,920
Speaker 1: felt like label went on the TUTSI, which is another

2182
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 1: rapper from the same label under that honor Taylor Tree.

2183
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:09,240
Speaker 1: He's doing a great job as an exact, but it

2184
02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:12,480
Speaker 1: seemed like they was prepping him to be in that

2185
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 1: space because the Baby continues to get in whatever little situations.

2186
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:19,080
Speaker 1: And I always tell you how we gotta handle each

2187
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 1: other with cal we gotta handle each other understanding that

2188
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:25,440
Speaker 1: you did just turn a little nigger from together into

2189
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:30,440
Speaker 1: a multi million dollar dude now understanding some bumps and bruises,

2190
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 1: and I would hope they've done that. But for some reason,

2191
02:04:34,120 --> 02:04:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm getting the field from the Baby that there's a

2192
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:38,960
Speaker 1: problem with the label. I'm gonna play a clip from

2193
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:42,000
Speaker 1: his Instagram and come back with some game you know,

2194
02:04:42,160 --> 02:04:44,480
Speaker 1: sometimes life get like the NBA. No matter what game

2195
02:04:44,520 --> 02:04:47,800
Speaker 1: you are, I'm saying, you're on the streets, the rap game,

2196
02:04:49,680 --> 02:04:53,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Anything even like you know

2197
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:58,720
Speaker 1: other love game things that I don't want to mention.

2198
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:02,200
Speaker 1: Come on, baby to pop gamb like. You know, it

2199
02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:05,080
Speaker 1: gets like the streets. Sometimes you gotta we gotta blow

2200
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:07,560
Speaker 1: the whole team up, blow the whole organization up, and

2201
02:05:08,600 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 1: and rebuild and restructure. You know what I'm saying. Just

2202
02:05:11,200 --> 02:05:14,840
Speaker 1: keep the same system, but just put taking pieces in

2203
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:19,400
Speaker 1: their different players, assign different roles and responsibilities and then

2204
02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:21,680
Speaker 1: come back and when the marines back to back, so

2205
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, for whoever need to hear this ship, you know,

2206
02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:27,560
Speaker 1: when ship gets shaky and and it don't it don't

2207
02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:31,920
Speaker 1: get to looking as sweet as as always. And don't panic, nigga,

2208
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:35,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, making necessary adjustments and come back,

2209
02:05:37,600 --> 02:05:41,600
Speaker 1: come back like that, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

2210
02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:45,440
Speaker 1: And I'm not how a public said it with my actions,

2211
02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:46,920
Speaker 1: but y'all probably ain't never heard it come out of

2212
02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:53,120
Speaker 1: my mouth. But yeah, any anybody you know going against

2213
02:05:53,160 --> 02:05:55,480
Speaker 1: the ship who never went against the ship, nigga who

2214
02:05:55,680 --> 02:06:04,600
Speaker 1: never nigga doubt a nigga like me. Hold on, cut

2215
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:10,920
Speaker 1: up your ears, swam cup years anybody who never drew

2216
02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:16,680
Speaker 1: a line between any of the typees went went left

2217
02:06:16,720 --> 02:06:19,600
Speaker 1: on this your cover your ears, Twin, come here and

2218
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:23,520
Speaker 1: cover your ears. Whoever went left on this ship, fuck

2219
02:06:23,640 --> 02:06:28,240
Speaker 1: you too. You can cover them, baby, You're gonna cover them.

2220
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:31,800
Speaker 1: I just had to let them. No. You know what

2221
02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's Kurt Leader Kirky Club for the ones

2222
02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:39,400
Speaker 1: who know. You know what this ship came from, What

2223
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:41,280
Speaker 1: this ship came up out of. You know what it

2224
02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:43,480
Speaker 1: took for this ship to Yeah, who know all the

2225
02:06:43,600 --> 02:06:47,760
Speaker 1: different stages or whatever. Nigga, Yeah, nigga have been through

2226
02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:50,480
Speaker 1: all the ship the nigga conquered. You know what I'm saying.

2227
02:06:52,520 --> 02:06:56,160
Speaker 1: A lonely journey. Ain't none of these niggas me, you

2228
02:06:56,280 --> 02:06:59,480
Speaker 1: know the ones they know that y'all know something I appreciate, y'all.

2229
02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:01,840
Speaker 1: Love y'all like twins. She knows she's been from the jump,

2230
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 1: from the bump and WI my baby, and while we

2231
02:07:05,320 --> 02:07:09,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, come on, boom. You know

2232
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:12,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. She has seen every stage of her daddy.

2233
02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:15,600
Speaker 1: You know and stayed down all the way along the way.

2234
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:17,080
Speaker 1: She knows what time it is to me. She know

2235
02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:20,600
Speaker 1: her daddy O beast, she know it. This kirkshot out.

2236
02:07:22,480 --> 02:07:24,440
Speaker 1: So you know I'm saying, I'll have to say this.

2237
02:07:24,600 --> 02:07:29,520
Speaker 1: You know, choose to be motivated by by this ship.

2238
02:07:29,720 --> 02:07:33,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Even you saw our Apple

2239
02:07:33,160 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 1: niggas and and you saw our Apple bitches, she was

2240
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:39,800
Speaker 1: to be more convated by this ship. You know what

2241
02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying, say this shitty, this shit special world. What

2242
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:51,080
Speaker 1: you And that's what I'm about the genuinely as a person.

2243
02:07:51,120 --> 02:07:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm about you know, seeing other people today and today

2244
02:07:56,120 --> 02:07:59,400
Speaker 1: for potential. So as you see that, we're gonna kind

2245
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:01,400
Speaker 1: of focus on a first Paul where he was saying

2246
02:08:01,480 --> 02:08:04,480
Speaker 1: that in this business or whatever business you're in, it's

2247
02:08:04,520 --> 02:08:07,200
Speaker 1: kind of like the NBA sometimes you gotta destroy the

2248
02:08:07,240 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 1: whole organization. For me, that's speaking to some of the

2249
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:13,960
Speaker 1: people on this team. When I seen him switch video guys,

2250
02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 1: it was interesting to me because them goat real dudes

2251
02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:23,240
Speaker 1: are super dope, I mean super dope. Man. It said something.

2252
02:08:23,320 --> 02:08:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it said, but when when he

2253
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:29,240
Speaker 1: got away from them and said something to me, I said, man,

2254
02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:32,560
Speaker 1: because them dudes was helping his visuals. And you see

2255
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 1: the difference, right, You see the baby, with all due

2256
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 1: respect to his hustle, he's doing a good job. But

2257
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:42,040
Speaker 1: you see he go get the little dancer thing for

2258
02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:45,320
Speaker 1: his last video. It didn't hit the same that Broadway

2259
02:08:45,440 --> 02:08:48,400
Speaker 1: ship with the bop in it, with the real goats.

2260
02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:51,800
Speaker 1: Them dudes are just capturing this stuff in a certain way,

2261
02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:55,440
Speaker 1: and sometimes you came bypassed that and just try to replace,

2262
02:08:55,960 --> 02:08:58,880
Speaker 1: like what he's saying. Sometimes it worked, others it don't.

2263
02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta do it in position as a cerebral

2264
02:09:02,520 --> 02:09:07,040
Speaker 1: thinker that you can't just plug another visionary in that position,

2265
02:09:07,120 --> 02:09:09,840
Speaker 1: you can plug another body, but you can't have the

2266
02:09:09,960 --> 02:09:14,600
Speaker 1: same expectations. And sometimes you don't know that you diminish

2267
02:09:14,640 --> 02:09:18,760
Speaker 1: your quality when you think everybody is disposable in that way,

2268
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:24,320
Speaker 1: especially in this world, entertainment world, content making world, this

2269
02:09:24,480 --> 02:09:27,840
Speaker 1: world right here. Some people is delicate. Some people is

2270
02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:31,680
Speaker 1: that individual the way that they crafted him do it

2271
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:36,400
Speaker 1: and how they find a way to persevere. You can't

2272
02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:39,480
Speaker 1: buy that. You can only get that from that kind

2273
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:42,440
Speaker 1: of individual. So if you fire such as such as

2274
02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:46,200
Speaker 1: the CEO, when you plug another body there, it's gonna

2275
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:50,040
Speaker 1: be a different outlook, which means that's a different atmosphere,

2276
02:09:50,720 --> 02:09:53,840
Speaker 1: which means that's a different output, which means there's a

2277
02:09:53,920 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 1: different intake which can affect the bottom line at the

2278
02:09:58,000 --> 02:10:01,720
Speaker 1: end of the day. So you gotta be you gotta

2279
02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:03,760
Speaker 1: really kind of understand how to how to how to

2280
02:10:03,880 --> 02:10:09,240
Speaker 1: navigate these things and understand man, that relationships are very important.

2281
02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:13,000
Speaker 1: You know. I think the baby has something. He got it.

2282
02:10:13,280 --> 02:10:15,160
Speaker 1: So I'm just looking at it, like, if they cut

2283
02:10:15,280 --> 02:10:18,040
Speaker 1: the baby off right now, what is he laying in

2284
02:10:18,160 --> 02:10:21,040
Speaker 1: the grand scheme? He rich, right, But when we look

2285
02:10:21,120 --> 02:10:23,520
Speaker 1: back musically on history, if he would have maybe got

2286
02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:27,320
Speaker 1: another two year run without the Tory thing and the

2287
02:10:27,400 --> 02:10:29,320
Speaker 1: AID thing and this and that for you have got

2288
02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:32,520
Speaker 1: another two year run with a bunch of hits like that,

2289
02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:35,800
Speaker 1: it might beat them a little more. Some minute, I

2290
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:39,920
Speaker 1: was speaking to somebody about there's a unique thing happening

2291
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:42,960
Speaker 1: in this time, right and I see it with some

2292
02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:45,720
Speaker 1: of some of our biggest names. I see it with

2293
02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:50,120
Speaker 1: the Diddies. I see it with the jay Z shout

2294
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:52,360
Speaker 1: out to revote. I see it with the Diddies. I

2295
02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:54,560
Speaker 1: see it with the jay Z's. I see it with

2296
02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:58,280
Speaker 1: the Kanye's. I see it with the Charlotte Mains, I

2297
02:10:58,400 --> 02:11:01,880
Speaker 1: see it with the QCs, I see it with the

2298
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:06,000
Speaker 1: coach ks. I see it with some of these people. Now,

2299
02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:08,440
Speaker 1: now what I'm about to explain to you, I hope

2300
02:11:08,480 --> 02:11:15,200
Speaker 1: that you can stay the course and be not deceived. Right.

2301
02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 1: What's happening is is that let's say Kanye. Let's speak

2302
02:11:19,640 --> 02:11:22,720
Speaker 1: about the homie Kanye for a second. Let's say that

2303
02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:26,440
Speaker 1: some of these guys catch Kanye something well, or Kanye

2304
02:11:26,520 --> 02:11:30,360
Speaker 1: invites them into a studio session and you get your

2305
02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:35,080
Speaker 1: picture off with him, Like a picture with Kanye West

2306
02:11:35,160 --> 02:11:37,080
Speaker 1: has been came a thing. A picture with Jay z

2307
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:39,640
Speaker 1: we speaking for grown me and other hustlers, even for

2308
02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:42,760
Speaker 1: dudes like me with Jay Jay is one of them ones.

2309
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:46,000
Speaker 1: Just like, hey, yo, I know I know how you

2310
02:11:46,120 --> 02:11:48,000
Speaker 1: got there, because I'm a student of the game, so

2311
02:11:48,120 --> 02:11:49,920
Speaker 1: I know what you took from who and how you

2312
02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:54,080
Speaker 1: did it and your whole get down. But because you

2313
02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:56,200
Speaker 1: was able to do it, I got a certain level

2314
02:11:56,240 --> 02:11:58,520
Speaker 1: of respect for that. Because you had to scribble outside

2315
02:11:58,560 --> 02:12:01,480
Speaker 1: the lines, it wasn't done. It is the same had

2316
02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:05,880
Speaker 1: the scribble QC scribblings. So it's certain ones that I

2317
02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:08,480
Speaker 1: gotta be like, yo, let me get that picture. But

2318
02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:11,200
Speaker 1: other than that, I'd be real quiet about the picture thing.

2319
02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's me. A lot of people

2320
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:16,120
Speaker 1: say it will work for me because of the rooms.

2321
02:12:16,160 --> 02:12:19,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it'll just make people like what the how?

2322
02:12:19,480 --> 02:12:22,000
Speaker 1: What's so? You know? They tell me to use it,

2323
02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:23,720
Speaker 1: but let me let me step away from it and

2324
02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:26,680
Speaker 1: get back to the subject. When I see people run

2325
02:12:26,800 --> 02:12:28,240
Speaker 1: up and want to get a picture from some of

2326
02:12:28,320 --> 02:12:32,480
Speaker 1: our graces, like a Kanye West. And I'm only speaking

2327
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:34,600
Speaker 1: about that because I see the baby next to him

2328
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:36,760
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. A lot of people are getting next to

2329
02:12:36,840 --> 02:12:40,040
Speaker 1: him now. He's very accessible at this point, which is

2330
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I mean, I think it's

2331
02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:44,760
Speaker 1: good if I if I can get an interview, will

2332
02:12:44,880 --> 02:12:48,760
Speaker 1: definitely have a good conversation. But I'm just thinking like

2333
02:12:50,080 --> 02:12:52,320
Speaker 1: getting a picture with him in the studio, saying he

2334
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:54,960
Speaker 1: called you to work you with I mean, getting a

2335
02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:57,720
Speaker 1: picture with him in the studio saying that he called

2336
02:12:57,840 --> 02:12:59,880
Speaker 1: for you to work with him is a beautiful thing.

2337
02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:03,240
Speaker 1: When I see the picture online, my mind instantly says,

2338
02:13:03,400 --> 02:13:09,920
Speaker 1: this is the most meaningless, meaningful thing that can happen

2339
02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:13,600
Speaker 1: in some of these people's career at this point, right

2340
02:13:14,240 --> 02:13:17,760
Speaker 1: because as a weird it's a weird thing happening with

2341
02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:20,600
Speaker 1: a creator, right to where when you get next to

2342
02:13:20,720 --> 02:13:23,160
Speaker 1: your idols and then they tell you that you the truth,

2343
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:28,200
Speaker 1: that security, that that validation it gives you. It locks

2344
02:13:28,240 --> 02:13:30,680
Speaker 1: you into a place where your creative juices start the

2345
02:13:30,760 --> 02:13:34,960
Speaker 1: flowing and you cannot pay for that. I always tell people,

2346
02:13:35,000 --> 02:13:38,760
Speaker 1: if you're going to meet somebody that you admire, take

2347
02:13:38,840 --> 02:13:41,400
Speaker 1: the camera with you, not to the interview, but after

2348
02:13:41,560 --> 02:13:45,120
Speaker 1: you get out of that, immediately record yourself and just

2349
02:13:45,320 --> 02:13:50,280
Speaker 1: get out whatever happened, like because those moments are so precious.

2350
02:13:50,720 --> 02:13:53,240
Speaker 1: But I think we have a failure to understand how

2351
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:58,120
Speaker 1: the chips are still falling for a lot of these guys, right,

2352
02:13:58,400 --> 02:14:00,920
Speaker 1: they go up so fast, did it feel like they

2353
02:14:01,040 --> 02:14:04,480
Speaker 1: actually made it? And to make it in the music business,

2354
02:14:04,680 --> 02:14:07,520
Speaker 1: let's put it in quotations, not even talking about to

2355
02:14:07,640 --> 02:14:10,800
Speaker 1: get rich in the music business, to be solidified, you

2356
02:14:10,920 --> 02:14:14,920
Speaker 1: gotta have a run. You gotta have a run in

2357
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:18,480
Speaker 1: two three fold year run. Look at Ludicrous, he had

2358
02:14:18,520 --> 02:14:22,400
Speaker 1: a mean run. They don't mention him at all. You

2359
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:26,680
Speaker 1: dig so you gotta understand what game you win? And

2360
02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:29,000
Speaker 1: don't get caught in the moment because right now your

2361
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:33,760
Speaker 1: impact is high, but what your legacy look like. So

2362
02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:36,320
Speaker 1: when you see him go and take a picture with Kanye,

2363
02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:39,160
Speaker 1: I said, bro, I know that they pour from it.

2364
02:14:39,280 --> 02:14:41,520
Speaker 1: I know it means a lot there, Like, Yo, this Kanye,

2365
02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:44,960
Speaker 1: this dude made college drop out, he made easies like

2366
02:14:45,160 --> 02:14:48,920
Speaker 1: this is the guy right and he embracing me. So

2367
02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:51,120
Speaker 1: I know what they do because I'm being embraced by

2368
02:14:51,200 --> 02:14:52,960
Speaker 1: some people I look up to right now in this

2369
02:14:53,160 --> 02:14:55,640
Speaker 1: very moment, and like, Yo, what it's doing for my

2370
02:14:55,760 --> 02:14:59,160
Speaker 1: creativity I can't pay for. They ain't an agency out

2371
02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:02,040
Speaker 1: there that's gonna be able to get those juices going

2372
02:15:02,160 --> 02:15:06,720
Speaker 1: in that way. So what it does is solidify my contribution.

2373
02:15:08,080 --> 02:15:10,760
Speaker 1: And that's what happens with Kanye. But what can also

2374
02:15:10,880 --> 02:15:12,600
Speaker 1: happen on the other side. And this is why I

2375
02:15:12,680 --> 02:15:17,560
Speaker 1: say it's meaningful but also meaningless because that picture in itself,

2376
02:15:19,600 --> 02:15:24,160
Speaker 1: it's not you getting the work done. See on Instagram.

2377
02:15:24,280 --> 02:15:27,480
Speaker 1: You can fool them because they don't have the eyes

2378
02:15:27,560 --> 02:15:30,600
Speaker 1: to understand that. See, I watch things right when I

2379
02:15:30,640 --> 02:15:32,480
Speaker 1: see dudes have a picture with a guy and I

2380
02:15:32,600 --> 02:15:34,720
Speaker 1: look and he got his luggage in the background or

2381
02:15:34,800 --> 02:15:36,480
Speaker 1: his luggage in his hand. I say, man, you didn't

2382
02:15:36,520 --> 02:15:39,440
Speaker 1: stop the man in the airport and ask him for

2383
02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:42,720
Speaker 1: a picture and then post. You know, man, they got

2384
02:15:42,800 --> 02:15:45,720
Speaker 1: us give me fifty five thousand. No, we ain't doing nothing.

2385
02:15:46,120 --> 02:15:48,480
Speaker 1: And it's like, yo, bro, y'all ain't then no intimate

2386
02:15:48,600 --> 02:15:51,800
Speaker 1: setting like y'all ain't know where where its damage your people.

2387
02:15:51,840 --> 02:15:53,920
Speaker 1: If you were to some of these rich guys in

2388
02:15:54,040 --> 02:15:56,680
Speaker 1: these other settens, them your people. But you could tell

2389
02:15:56,760 --> 02:15:58,720
Speaker 1: when somebody to stop someone in the backstage of a

2390
02:15:58,800 --> 02:16:00,760
Speaker 1: show or this or that and try to sell it

2391
02:16:00,840 --> 02:16:03,400
Speaker 1: to the people like it's a connection there, and a

2392
02:16:03,480 --> 02:16:06,160
Speaker 1: lot of times the people bite intour. But it's about

2393
02:16:06,240 --> 02:16:09,200
Speaker 1: knowing what you're looking at. So with Kanye taking pictures

2394
02:16:09,240 --> 02:16:12,080
Speaker 1: with some of our people, they can sell it to

2395
02:16:12,200 --> 02:16:14,760
Speaker 1: the people like that. But you can't fool the biggest.

2396
02:16:15,720 --> 02:16:17,880
Speaker 1: You can't fool me. So I look at it and say,

2397
02:16:18,800 --> 02:16:21,040
Speaker 1: I hope that they know that that picture can also

2398
02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:26,240
Speaker 1: be the tipping point. That same picture that you posted

2399
02:16:26,280 --> 02:16:29,240
Speaker 1: it meant for it to ring bells and go far

2400
02:16:29,360 --> 02:16:32,200
Speaker 1: and solidify you as a big dog. Can be the

2401
02:16:32,280 --> 02:16:35,240
Speaker 1: point where they say, man, woo, the wool star falling

2402
02:16:35,320 --> 02:16:38,199
Speaker 1: off after that picture with Kanye, we thought he would

2403
02:16:38,240 --> 02:16:42,480
Speaker 1: do more. After he was on the jay Z album.

2404
02:16:42,560 --> 02:16:45,720
Speaker 1: We thought he would such an after Little Baby jumped

2405
02:16:45,760 --> 02:16:48,080
Speaker 1: on his verse, we thought he would go for after

2406
02:16:48,240 --> 02:16:50,440
Speaker 1: money bag Yo and Yo gott it did the video

2407
02:16:50,600 --> 02:16:53,280
Speaker 1: with him, We thought he would. So you gotta understand too,

2408
02:16:53,400 --> 02:16:57,480
Speaker 1: what come along with the cloud chasing If you're playing entrepreneur,

2409
02:16:58,480 --> 02:17:02,640
Speaker 1: if you're playing business man, the cloud chasing makers, it'll

2410
02:17:02,720 --> 02:17:05,959
Speaker 1: reveal what you niggas is. You ain't nothing but picture taking,

2411
02:17:06,400 --> 02:17:11,680
Speaker 1: portrait taking photographers, nigga. You niggas is picture taking people.

2412
02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:15,760
Speaker 1: You ain't doing bitiness. These people ain't calling you in

2413
02:17:15,879 --> 02:17:19,080
Speaker 1: to do no bitiness. But you can fool the naked

2414
02:17:19,160 --> 02:17:24,160
Speaker 1: I but never I. The rock nation bruns can be

2415
02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:27,520
Speaker 1: the picture that you fail from. Like with casting over

2416
02:17:27,680 --> 02:17:31,120
Speaker 1: right now, shout out free casting over. But a spade

2417
02:17:31,280 --> 02:17:33,240
Speaker 1: is a spade. They're saying that man he was around

2418
02:17:33,360 --> 02:17:35,800
Speaker 1: jay Z, man, what he'd he do? Man? He tripping?

2419
02:17:37,959 --> 02:17:42,920
Speaker 1: You understand, ain't no help coming. Ain't no help coming.

2420
02:17:42,959 --> 02:17:46,680
Speaker 1: You Better build a bomb safe house, better make sure

2421
02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:50,640
Speaker 1: your foundation and instructures is done right. Ain't no help coming.

2422
02:17:52,120 --> 02:17:54,720
Speaker 1: Everybody focused on their own plate. They might as well

2423
02:17:54,840 --> 02:17:59,360
Speaker 1: have blinders on. But you can look at some of

2424
02:17:59,400 --> 02:18:01,960
Speaker 1: them pictures. Man, I remember seeing Loan with Kanye Man

2425
02:18:02,040 --> 02:18:04,240
Speaker 1: after that, man, even he ain't did nothing, I don't

2426
02:18:04,280 --> 02:18:08,680
Speaker 1: know whatso man, you know it's that type of thing happening.

2427
02:18:09,440 --> 02:18:12,360
Speaker 1: So be careful what your picture taking and make sure

2428
02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:15,119
Speaker 1: you're hustling. So I'm smart enough to know YO well

2429
02:18:15,160 --> 02:18:18,680
Speaker 1: around each other. Let's hustle together. If you really like

2430
02:18:18,800 --> 02:18:21,280
Speaker 1: what I'm doing, Let's get some money together, baby, because

2431
02:18:21,280 --> 02:18:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get money with you niggas. If I

2432
02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:25,680
Speaker 1: like what you're doing, we can get some money together.

2433
02:18:26,320 --> 02:18:28,480
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. But you know, I gotta

2434
02:18:28,520 --> 02:18:30,680
Speaker 1: wait till I have the capital to be able to

2435
02:18:30,760 --> 02:18:33,080
Speaker 1: move around that way. And it's only a certain amount

2436
02:18:33,080 --> 02:18:35,880
Speaker 1: of time. But something tells me that the baby is

2437
02:18:35,959 --> 02:18:38,640
Speaker 1: not feeling the label no more. Maybe the label is

2438
02:18:39,200 --> 02:18:43,040
Speaker 1: starting to be a little loud or with their criticisms right, Like,

2439
02:18:43,440 --> 02:18:45,320
Speaker 1: you can't just be punching people and you'll be doing that. Man,

2440
02:18:45,400 --> 02:18:48,199
Speaker 1: you can't be doing that. Man, this causing your country says,

2441
02:18:48,400 --> 02:18:52,720
Speaker 1: but we hadn't enforced it, right. I think something's happening.

2442
02:18:54,520 --> 02:18:58,320
Speaker 1: But artists on that major level, like that, and I

2443
02:18:58,680 --> 02:19:01,000
Speaker 1: don't know the baby to be vision there. I think

2444
02:19:01,040 --> 02:19:06,280
Speaker 1: he's a he's a talented rapper, but the plug and

2445
02:19:06,400 --> 02:19:12,160
Speaker 1: play man, I don't think you can unplug everybody on

2446
02:19:12,280 --> 02:19:14,760
Speaker 1: your team and just plug other people right in. Because

2447
02:19:14,800 --> 02:19:19,480
Speaker 1: the NBA, it's a structured setting in the same way

2448
02:19:20,920 --> 02:19:23,760
Speaker 1: the entertainment is in regards to talent and who has

2449
02:19:23,840 --> 02:19:26,040
Speaker 1: a networking reach. Right, So when you deal with the

2450
02:19:26,200 --> 02:19:28,560
Speaker 1: NBA and the reference he made to the NBA of

2451
02:19:29,120 --> 02:19:32,960
Speaker 1: rebuilding the organization, you gotta understand it's less about what

2452
02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:35,560
Speaker 1: the team did and it's more about where they're going

2453
02:19:35,600 --> 02:19:39,600
Speaker 1: to pull from. And that's what your problem gonna be

2454
02:19:39,760 --> 02:19:42,120
Speaker 1: at if you're in the music business, because the pool

2455
02:19:42,280 --> 02:19:44,560
Speaker 1: is so muddy you don't know who is who in

2456
02:19:44,640 --> 02:19:47,440
Speaker 1: the pool. But right now you got some genuine people

2457
02:19:47,480 --> 02:19:50,240
Speaker 1: who you know can get the job done. Who has

2458
02:19:50,360 --> 02:19:53,080
Speaker 1: those relationships in real life with such and such and

2459
02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:55,240
Speaker 1: this and that and that and this. Right, So, what

2460
02:19:55,560 --> 02:19:59,360
Speaker 1: you're dealing with is the NBA going straight to free agency,

2461
02:20:00,040 --> 02:20:03,160
Speaker 1: right to college, straight to these places. You can't then

2462
02:20:03,280 --> 02:20:07,000
Speaker 1: just plug in a rapper as a video guy, because

2463
02:20:07,040 --> 02:20:09,520
Speaker 1: he may got an out certain things. You still need

2464
02:20:09,600 --> 02:20:12,840
Speaker 1: the video guy there. But let me just do Hey,

2465
02:20:12,920 --> 02:20:14,760
Speaker 1: let me tell you, now, a bro, what about such

2466
02:20:14,800 --> 02:20:18,920
Speaker 1: and such? And let you translating? Right? Just because I

2467
02:20:19,040 --> 02:20:21,640
Speaker 1: gotta illfort music, I still need to do that. It's

2468
02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:27,519
Speaker 1: a mixing professional. Or then I'm naive and I'm discredited

2469
02:20:27,560 --> 02:20:34,840
Speaker 1: in the process. I'm disrespecting the craft. I'm disrespecting the

2470
02:20:35,000 --> 02:20:38,119
Speaker 1: contribution if I just think I can look at things

2471
02:20:38,320 --> 02:20:40,600
Speaker 1: like yo, now, you need people around you. If you

2472
02:20:40,640 --> 02:20:43,680
Speaker 1: ain't learn nothing else from Kanye, learn that when you

2473
02:20:43,760 --> 02:20:46,280
Speaker 1: hear them drop names Jesus head of other companies he

2474
02:20:46,400 --> 02:20:49,840
Speaker 1: had around him. He didn't build that thing just because

2475
02:20:49,879 --> 02:20:52,200
Speaker 1: he was a visionary like his portrayed. And he is

2476
02:20:52,240 --> 02:20:56,080
Speaker 1: a visionary one hundred percent because being able to being

2477
02:20:56,160 --> 02:20:58,560
Speaker 1: able to pick those kind of people and put them

2478
02:20:58,600 --> 02:21:02,120
Speaker 1: all in formation is a coaching man set and that's

2479
02:21:02,160 --> 02:21:05,080
Speaker 1: a plus in our community when we're so disorgan none.

2480
02:21:07,320 --> 02:21:09,800
Speaker 1: So Kanye is one of them. But I think the

2481
02:21:09,879 --> 02:21:13,000
Speaker 1: baby's having issues with the label. Not sure how they're

2482
02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:16,040
Speaker 1: gonna approach it, not sure how they're gonna overcome it. Um,

2483
02:21:17,320 --> 02:21:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's under contract, but after that contract, we'll

2484
02:21:19,959 --> 02:21:22,160
Speaker 1: see how they how they approach it, and we'll see

2485
02:21:22,200 --> 02:21:24,640
Speaker 1: what they bring, well his brand does after the contract

2486
02:21:24,720 --> 02:21:27,840
Speaker 1: because I kind of I kind of feel like if

2487
02:21:28,200 --> 02:21:33,240
Speaker 1: nobody's around the baby, he might go always street rapper,

2488
02:21:34,160 --> 02:21:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, it might do a lot more wreckers like

2489
02:21:36,560 --> 02:21:39,720
Speaker 1: hit and shit talking about you know that kind of

2490
02:21:39,760 --> 02:21:42,760
Speaker 1: ship versus the packing, the mail i'm gones or the

2491
02:21:43,240 --> 02:21:47,119
Speaker 1: the you know, some of those main streaming rock star

2492
02:21:47,280 --> 02:21:50,840
Speaker 1: type brecerds. I don't know, like I'm saying, with no

2493
02:21:51,080 --> 02:21:53,360
Speaker 1: expectations of test to him. I think he liked this

2494
02:21:53,520 --> 02:21:55,800
Speaker 1: street talk more. I think he but I don't know

2495
02:21:55,879 --> 02:21:57,560
Speaker 1: because he come in with the bop in and and

2496
02:21:57,760 --> 02:22:00,480
Speaker 1: all that, so I don't I read it on. It's

2497
02:22:00,480 --> 02:22:03,360
Speaker 1: a hell of a conversation, but we're examined it more

2498
02:22:03,480 --> 02:22:07,040
Speaker 1: another time. I want to move on to meet Mill

2499
02:22:08,120 --> 02:22:13,800
Speaker 1: in his tweets after him and the Homies bought Mitchell

2500
02:22:13,879 --> 02:22:16,160
Speaker 1: and Nest. So let's take a look at that. Straight

2501
02:22:16,240 --> 02:22:19,880
Speaker 1: from Vibe magazine, jay z Meek Mill acquired Mitchell and

2502
02:22:19,959 --> 02:22:23,199
Speaker 1: Ness brand with a group of investors. So the iconic

2503
02:22:23,280 --> 02:22:25,560
Speaker 1: brand Mitchell and Ness has been acquired by a group

2504
02:22:25,640 --> 02:22:28,880
Speaker 1: of investors including jay z Meek Mill. According to a

2505
02:22:28,959 --> 02:22:32,200
Speaker 1: press release, the strategic investment group made up of some

2506
02:22:32,280 --> 02:22:35,240
Speaker 1: of the most recognized names in sports, entertainment and culture

2507
02:22:35,240 --> 02:22:39,760
Speaker 1: would own approximately twenty five percent of the company. Little Baby,

2508
02:22:40,160 --> 02:22:46,119
Speaker 1: Michael Rubin, Fanatics, Maverick Carter, did DiAngelo Family, alongside more

2509
02:22:46,160 --> 02:22:49,160
Speaker 1: of the biggest names in sports entertainment and culture all

2510
02:22:49,640 --> 02:22:53,360
Speaker 1: made the commitment. Mitchell and Ness is an iconic brand

2511
02:22:53,480 --> 02:22:57,480
Speaker 1: and pioneer within our industry, Express Rubin in a statement,

2512
02:22:57,520 --> 02:23:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm incredibly excited for Fanatics to part with this incredible

2513
02:23:01,160 --> 02:23:05,320
Speaker 1: group of innovative owners to build upon the company's already

2514
02:23:05,360 --> 02:23:08,960
Speaker 1: strong business that has kelpt the brand culturally relevant for

2515
02:23:09,040 --> 02:23:11,440
Speaker 1: more than a hundred years. Growing up as a kid

2516
02:23:11,480 --> 02:23:13,960
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, we looked at Mitchell and That's as a

2517
02:23:14,080 --> 02:23:17,720
Speaker 1: badge of pride, and I truly believe his legendary brand

2518
02:23:17,800 --> 02:23:20,440
Speaker 1: has no limits. So again, shout out a little baby man,

2519
02:23:20,440 --> 02:23:23,320
Speaker 1: I see getting your ass in. Shout out a love baby.

2520
02:23:23,640 --> 02:23:26,080
Speaker 1: They lead a little baby doers one. Two. We definitely

2521
02:23:26,120 --> 02:23:28,640
Speaker 1: got to shout out the South. You understand meet me

2522
02:23:28,760 --> 02:23:31,320
Speaker 1: or he locked in with them boys, Jay Z adding

2523
02:23:32,520 --> 02:23:35,120
Speaker 1: classics off forever Mitchell and This is a true classic.

2524
02:23:35,200 --> 02:23:37,800
Speaker 1: I was early adopter of his brand as well as

2525
02:23:37,840 --> 02:23:42,240
Speaker 1: a part of a departure from athletic wear. Yeah, you

2526
02:23:42,280 --> 02:23:44,520
Speaker 1: know Jay used to you know, rock that. And then

2527
02:23:44,600 --> 02:23:46,840
Speaker 1: he starts saying, don't nobody what jerseys. I'm proud to

2528
02:23:46,879 --> 02:23:48,680
Speaker 1: play a small role in bringing it back and in

2529
02:23:48,800 --> 02:23:51,800
Speaker 1: some cases introducing the authentic and quality of Mitchell and

2530
02:23:51,879 --> 02:23:55,560
Speaker 1: nes brand to a new generation. So again, shout out

2531
02:23:55,600 --> 02:23:59,880
Speaker 1: to them, shout out to them. Big business being done.

2532
02:24:00,040 --> 02:24:01,840
Speaker 1: Like I said, I love to see us come together,

2533
02:24:02,200 --> 02:24:04,560
Speaker 1: get a bag together. Let's not talk about it, Let's

2534
02:24:04,600 --> 02:24:07,360
Speaker 1: do it. You know, it's a lot of talking happening.

2535
02:24:07,480 --> 02:24:09,280
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people saying what they are doing

2536
02:24:09,320 --> 02:24:11,360
Speaker 1: when they got in position, they got in position, they

2537
02:24:11,360 --> 02:24:14,400
Speaker 1: ain't did nothing. So it's a lot of that. With

2538
02:24:14,600 --> 02:24:17,400
Speaker 1: that being said, right after that, Meek Meal comes out

2539
02:24:17,760 --> 02:24:20,720
Speaker 1: and he says this, Meek Mill says, ogis from the

2540
02:24:20,800 --> 02:24:24,400
Speaker 1: coach and never putting him onto any business deals. Tweet

2541
02:24:24,480 --> 02:24:27,440
Speaker 1: by Meek Meal before Michael Rubin. I never got put

2542
02:24:27,520 --> 02:24:30,360
Speaker 1: on any business deals by the ogs from my culture.

2543
02:24:30,920 --> 02:24:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm on my fifth big one. Why is it like

2544
02:24:33,440 --> 02:24:36,280
Speaker 1: that non sponsors ownership. I'm gonna change that if I

2545
02:24:36,360 --> 02:24:38,720
Speaker 1: really get the power to to help the younger generation.

2546
02:24:40,680 --> 02:24:44,480
Speaker 1: And you know, this is where I thrive at because

2547
02:24:44,520 --> 02:24:47,119
Speaker 1: I understand that we're dealing with a lot of different things.

2548
02:24:47,160 --> 02:24:50,480
Speaker 1: We're dealing with broken pieces in this game. We're dealing

2549
02:24:50,520 --> 02:24:52,720
Speaker 1: with a lot of people traveling with a lot of

2550
02:24:52,879 --> 02:24:56,080
Speaker 1: broken pieces. So these dudes are acting like it's all

2551
02:24:56,120 --> 02:25:00,360
Speaker 1: together when in all actuality, they're broken pieces. I said

2552
02:25:00,440 --> 02:25:03,600
Speaker 1: all the time, in our game and in our entertainment industry,

2553
02:25:03,640 --> 02:25:05,280
Speaker 1: it's a lot of fake kicking it, a lot of

2554
02:25:05,360 --> 02:25:08,680
Speaker 1: fake chain giving, a lot of tax right off love.

2555
02:25:09,400 --> 02:25:11,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of that going on. But

2556
02:25:11,560 --> 02:25:14,080
Speaker 1: what that does to the people that's unaware is it

2557
02:25:14,240 --> 02:25:19,199
Speaker 1: confusesm you know their name, their company, Live five Meal Liah.

2558
02:25:19,840 --> 02:25:23,280
Speaker 1: You know, they'll give you a chain that's worth thirty

2559
02:25:23,320 --> 02:25:25,680
Speaker 1: five thousand, but it's a tax right off because it's

2560
02:25:25,680 --> 02:25:27,720
Speaker 1: a utility. And they play in the game, and they

2561
02:25:27,800 --> 02:25:30,520
Speaker 1: CEPA and told them how they can give jury and

2562
02:25:30,720 --> 02:25:33,840
Speaker 1: categorize this as a right. So it's all kind of

2563
02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:36,880
Speaker 1: game being played. So when Meek Mill speak about man

2564
02:25:36,959 --> 02:25:39,240
Speaker 1: ain't no real OG's put them up on the game.

2565
02:25:40,480 --> 02:25:42,760
Speaker 1: I talk about it all the time. I talked to

2566
02:25:42,879 --> 02:25:45,480
Speaker 1: be Marshal about it out. I talk to my people

2567
02:25:45,520 --> 02:25:48,800
Speaker 1: about it all the time. This game Man's way deep.

2568
02:25:48,840 --> 02:25:50,560
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fake love, it's a lot of

2569
02:25:50,600 --> 02:25:56,160
Speaker 1: fake kicking it. Dudes have numbers, Dudes have situations where

2570
02:25:56,160 --> 02:25:58,400
Speaker 1: they can put people in position and they don't do it.

2571
02:25:59,280 --> 02:26:03,000
Speaker 1: They think it they enough for everybody. I always say

2572
02:26:03,080 --> 02:26:05,320
Speaker 1: we come from If you get downstairs too late, you

2573
02:26:05,720 --> 02:26:08,560
Speaker 1: may not eat, or if you're at the bare minimum,

2574
02:26:08,600 --> 02:26:11,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the littlest piece of chicken and it

2575
02:26:11,720 --> 02:26:13,880
Speaker 1: might be bit off of and a little side of

2576
02:26:13,959 --> 02:26:21,400
Speaker 1: macaroni left. So that trauma it stays alongside us. As

2577
02:26:21,480 --> 02:26:26,080
Speaker 1: we elevate, we have arrested development. When it comes to

2578
02:26:26,200 --> 02:26:29,840
Speaker 1: our emotions and how we view it. We feel lucky

2579
02:26:29,920 --> 02:26:32,560
Speaker 1: is if my ween did them? Did we really do this? Boy?

2580
02:26:32,560 --> 02:26:34,920
Speaker 1: We're hustling good or as we lucky, it's gonna run out.

2581
02:26:34,920 --> 02:26:36,800
Speaker 1: Don't let them in, It's gonna run out. I'll be

2582
02:26:36,920 --> 02:26:41,440
Speaker 1: telling dudes, like it said on the Joe Bunting podcad Yo,

2583
02:26:41,600 --> 02:26:43,920
Speaker 1: anybody be kicking that, yo, when I get on, putting

2584
02:26:43,920 --> 02:26:46,640
Speaker 1: my niggas on, putting niggas on, putting black people longe,

2585
02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:49,200
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing, yo. Yeah, we springboard and we're

2586
02:26:49,200 --> 02:26:52,760
Speaker 1: putting black dudes on ain't nobody putting nobody on. Let's

2587
02:26:52,800 --> 02:26:56,280
Speaker 1: talk about it. When the lad time, you little nigga

2588
02:26:56,320 --> 02:26:58,600
Speaker 1: spring board is something that you couldn't profit off for.

2589
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:02,280
Speaker 1: When the lad time you little niggas gave a number

2590
02:27:02,320 --> 02:27:06,080
Speaker 1: to somebody that could change their life. When the lad

2591
02:27:06,200 --> 02:27:09,960
Speaker 1: time you fool with anybody conversation in regards to something

2592
02:27:10,040 --> 02:27:14,440
Speaker 1: that you couldn't profit from. When the last time, black man,

2593
02:27:16,480 --> 02:27:19,039
Speaker 1: and it's uncomfortable to talk about it because the mirror

2594
02:27:19,200 --> 02:27:24,000
Speaker 1: is there. Can't escape the mirror. Everybody kicked this high level.

2595
02:27:24,160 --> 02:27:25,800
Speaker 1: Why he ain't put the homie on the phone with

2596
02:27:25,920 --> 02:27:30,920
Speaker 1: the homie can change his life. Why y'all faith kicking

2597
02:27:30,959 --> 02:27:33,200
Speaker 1: it in the DM about how cold somebody? Why he

2598
02:27:33,240 --> 02:27:35,840
Speaker 1: ain't told nobody the homie is really kicking it like that?

2599
02:27:37,800 --> 02:27:39,960
Speaker 1: Why you ain't comment under the picture, but you in

2600
02:27:40,080 --> 02:27:43,720
Speaker 1: my DM telling me I'm the next one. You think

2601
02:27:43,800 --> 02:27:45,880
Speaker 1: I turned ship into sugar And I can't peep that.

2602
02:27:46,200 --> 02:27:51,200
Speaker 1: You little niggas is disrespectful with your approach. You little

2603
02:27:51,280 --> 02:27:54,960
Speaker 1: niggas is disrespectful with your approach. You're dealing with Meek

2604
02:27:55,040 --> 02:27:59,920
Speaker 1: Mia with money, no information. White boy gotta hip him.

2605
02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:03,360
Speaker 1: I like them niggas. They get closed. They help niggas,

2606
02:28:03,400 --> 02:28:06,480
Speaker 1: they help us. I like them, Michael Rubin dudes and

2607
02:28:06,640 --> 02:28:08,879
Speaker 1: all them dudes that be in that circle. They hide

2608
02:28:08,959 --> 02:28:13,560
Speaker 1: with me. See they pass that point where they don't

2609
02:28:13,560 --> 02:28:16,480
Speaker 1: even think about what they're hipping. Though they were good man,

2610
02:28:16,560 --> 02:28:19,000
Speaker 1: we're good forever round here. Man, Let me get that.

2611
02:28:19,200 --> 02:28:22,039
Speaker 1: Let me get my percentage. Hey, yo, let loon get

2612
02:28:22,040 --> 02:28:24,880
Speaker 1: a little percentage of that too. Just give him my percentage.

2613
02:28:25,520 --> 02:28:30,960
Speaker 1: We're doing well. We're doing well, and we're giving ownership

2614
02:28:31,040 --> 02:28:34,280
Speaker 1: to these guys. And man cought with these black young

2615
02:28:34,440 --> 02:28:37,480
Speaker 1: black dudes like I don't know, dog, I know black

2616
02:28:37,560 --> 02:28:40,360
Speaker 1: dudes that ain't hipping nobody. Everybody talking it man, y'all

2617
02:28:40,360 --> 02:28:43,720
Speaker 1: ain't hipping each other. And why people want to get

2618
02:28:43,800 --> 02:28:45,880
Speaker 1: mad at me? Tell me, nah, you can't say that.

2619
02:28:46,120 --> 02:28:49,080
Speaker 1: You can't say that because you had helped man. Don't

2620
02:28:49,120 --> 02:28:54,880
Speaker 1: talk to me about no bullshit ass rap recording contract. Nigga.

2621
02:28:54,920 --> 02:28:58,200
Speaker 1: We know who nigga. This is either mutually beneficial or

2622
02:28:58,280 --> 02:29:01,039
Speaker 1: you really weighed more beneficial then this didn't the rapper.

2623
02:29:01,520 --> 02:29:04,440
Speaker 1: So dude talk about some rap contract, tell my meek

2624
02:29:04,520 --> 02:29:08,480
Speaker 1: head help man, he folk got me in rap contracts. Well,

2625
02:29:08,520 --> 02:29:11,720
Speaker 1: everybody know how them drew up. Ain't no equity and

2626
02:29:11,840 --> 02:29:15,440
Speaker 1: no rap contract. We ain't talking about getting me no

2627
02:29:15,640 --> 02:29:18,160
Speaker 1: bulls too. Well, you got six to percent of the

2628
02:29:18,400 --> 02:29:20,800
Speaker 1: revenue that come in, so if I do pop, you

2629
02:29:20,920 --> 02:29:24,840
Speaker 1: get six dollars out of ten. Man, you man, come on, man,

2630
02:29:24,879 --> 02:29:27,160
Speaker 1: you stay in the game. Were talking about spring board,

2631
02:29:27,680 --> 02:29:32,640
Speaker 1: we talk about launching, we talk about yeah, not that

2632
02:29:32,800 --> 02:29:35,360
Speaker 1: with y'all. Y'all lose something because in my opinion, if

2633
02:29:35,680 --> 02:29:39,280
Speaker 1: you hit me making deals and band Mitchell and this

2634
02:29:39,560 --> 02:29:44,600
Speaker 1: and band car Lodson furniture stores and all ladding, I say, man,

2635
02:29:44,680 --> 02:29:46,480
Speaker 1: it took for the white dude to show me the

2636
02:29:46,560 --> 02:29:50,080
Speaker 1: game about de transitional housing. Man, nobody didn't showed me.

2637
02:29:50,160 --> 02:29:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm around all the rappers and the nigga Moore time

2638
02:29:52,920 --> 02:29:55,720
Speaker 1: me and that day, then show me. It says something

2639
02:29:55,760 --> 02:29:59,000
Speaker 1: about your character when you bring up a recording contracting me.

2640
02:30:00,400 --> 02:30:04,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they helped you, bro, They Now. The funny

2641
02:30:04,879 --> 02:30:07,480
Speaker 1: thing about that is, on the flip side, you could

2642
02:30:07,480 --> 02:30:10,040
Speaker 1: be in a recording contract and not get that level

2643
02:30:10,080 --> 02:30:12,320
Speaker 1: of help Ross gave me. Let me be cleaned that

2644
02:30:12,400 --> 02:30:14,800
Speaker 1: and give Raws some props too, because I know how

2645
02:30:14,879 --> 02:30:18,480
Speaker 1: people like to not understand what they should understand. So

2646
02:30:18,720 --> 02:30:20,800
Speaker 1: let me give me Let me give a Raws some

2647
02:30:20,920 --> 02:30:24,160
Speaker 1: props too, because Ross did go over and beyond, but

2648
02:30:24,280 --> 02:30:30,960
Speaker 1: he's standing the benefit, he's standing to benefit. That's how

2649
02:30:31,080 --> 02:30:33,640
Speaker 1: the point I'm making and the reason I say, I

2650
02:30:33,720 --> 02:30:35,480
Speaker 1: gotta give it out the Ross. So give it up

2651
02:30:35,520 --> 02:30:40,920
Speaker 1: the Ross because it was one hundred percent mutually beneficial,

2652
02:30:41,040 --> 02:30:43,920
Speaker 1: maybe more beneficial for Ross in the early stages, or

2653
02:30:44,440 --> 02:30:47,120
Speaker 1: maybe he put a large investment in and it was

2654
02:30:47,320 --> 02:30:52,320
Speaker 1: at some point mutually beneficial or more beneficial for Ross

2655
02:30:52,360 --> 02:30:53,960
Speaker 1: to do what it is. He done, and he done

2656
02:30:53,959 --> 02:30:56,760
Speaker 1: it the right way. And the reason I got to

2657
02:30:56,800 --> 02:30:59,360
Speaker 1: salute him on that is because it's niggas right now

2658
02:30:59,440 --> 02:31:02,840
Speaker 1: on the sideline. They can make million dollar plays, make

2659
02:31:02,959 --> 02:31:05,080
Speaker 1: money off the play, and they won't make them balls.

2660
02:31:06,520 --> 02:31:09,160
Speaker 1: It's dudes right now. They can make one phone call,

2661
02:31:09,360 --> 02:31:11,440
Speaker 1: make some money off the play and they will not

2662
02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:16,080
Speaker 1: pass the ball. So for you to even do it,

2663
02:31:16,160 --> 02:31:18,640
Speaker 1: because we see people put people in contracts and not

2664
02:31:18,800 --> 02:31:21,000
Speaker 1: really co sign them in a way where it's effective.

2665
02:31:21,080 --> 02:31:23,920
Speaker 1: Now we see that as well, But he ain't talking

2666
02:31:23,920 --> 02:31:27,880
Speaker 1: about recording contracts and the album Seal Nigga telling about business.

2667
02:31:29,280 --> 02:31:33,800
Speaker 1: Nigga talking about business nigga talk about big business, you know,

2668
02:31:33,879 --> 02:31:35,560
Speaker 1: while standing to make a cord of me, and this

2669
02:31:35,680 --> 02:31:38,560
Speaker 1: year for doing nothing, just my little investment three years ago,

2670
02:31:39,520 --> 02:31:42,000
Speaker 1: them type things, because everybody knows you got to have

2671
02:31:42,120 --> 02:31:44,400
Speaker 1: seven to eight sources. I keep telling dudes they got

2672
02:31:44,480 --> 02:31:47,280
Speaker 1: one hustle and think they're gonna be next to the legends.

2673
02:31:48,959 --> 02:31:53,000
Speaker 1: What they say, they say they think greatness gone, sail man,

2674
02:31:53,120 --> 02:31:55,920
Speaker 1: Greatness don't gonna said the dude don't done this. Ten times,

2675
02:31:56,000 --> 02:31:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to doing it. Twenty say they nothing

2676
02:32:00,040 --> 02:32:02,560
Speaker 1: on that. Three times, I'm looking forward to doing it. Ten.

2677
02:32:03,920 --> 02:32:06,040
Speaker 1: I know I got a pass to put on to

2678
02:32:06,160 --> 02:32:08,240
Speaker 1: the next people to go forward. And then I went

2679
02:32:09,200 --> 02:32:11,160
Speaker 1: and if my mind say it's only stuck on me,

2680
02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm in a dog place and I don't even know it.

2681
02:32:13,480 --> 02:32:15,360
Speaker 1: But again I give a big shout out to him

2682
02:32:15,360 --> 02:32:18,480
Speaker 1: because he did it when he when a lot of

2683
02:32:18,600 --> 02:32:20,920
Speaker 1: dudes won't do it, even when they stay to make money.

2684
02:32:20,959 --> 02:32:25,800
Speaker 1: I think sometimes we deal it with Stockholm syndrome. I

2685
02:32:25,959 --> 02:32:28,119
Speaker 1: swear to God, I think we think it ain't enough

2686
02:32:28,360 --> 02:32:30,760
Speaker 1: about it. I was telling the homie chair from eighty

2687
02:32:30,840 --> 02:32:34,040
Speaker 1: five South the other day, like they all the homies

2688
02:32:34,040 --> 02:32:37,560
Speaker 1: got to do a share their audience. It's simple if

2689
02:32:37,640 --> 02:32:41,240
Speaker 1: they think somebody ready shattered audience there to catapote them.

2690
02:32:42,360 --> 02:32:44,640
Speaker 1: But see what the brands don't understand. Then you can't

2691
02:32:44,720 --> 02:32:47,320
Speaker 1: do anybody like that. It won't work. It got to

2692
02:32:47,360 --> 02:32:51,000
Speaker 1: be a certain voice to go through them, go through

2693
02:32:51,080 --> 02:32:54,640
Speaker 1: those tunnels, with a certain structure, with a certain pivot,

2694
02:32:54,920 --> 02:32:58,320
Speaker 1: with a certain perspective, with a certain persistence to go

2695
02:32:58,480 --> 02:33:01,160
Speaker 1: through that those waves for it to be effective in

2696
02:33:01,240 --> 02:33:04,160
Speaker 1: our culture. Man, they think making a call it's generosity.

2697
02:33:04,200 --> 02:33:08,240
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it ain't. It's literally pro creating. I

2698
02:33:08,400 --> 02:33:12,000
Speaker 1: keep telling dudes, you're fighting for your legacy. Dog, it's

2699
02:33:12,040 --> 02:33:15,680
Speaker 1: pro creating. Say you know loan podcasts out at high level,

2700
02:33:15,800 --> 02:33:17,920
Speaker 1: make a call to make somebody, Hey, yo, this dude

2701
02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:22,920
Speaker 1: hill podcast, Get him in, Get him in, And what

2702
02:33:23,080 --> 02:33:25,760
Speaker 1: are you doing? You starting the cycle of you being,

2703
02:33:27,240 --> 02:33:30,039
Speaker 1: of you being an avenue to people dreams coming true.

2704
02:33:31,720 --> 02:33:34,800
Speaker 1: Don't nobody cared about how good you wrapped, how long

2705
02:33:35,000 --> 02:33:39,560
Speaker 1: you ran, how fast you were, how many albums you sold,

2706
02:33:40,080 --> 02:33:43,600
Speaker 1: how many balls you got, how many brings you got,

2707
02:33:44,040 --> 02:33:46,920
Speaker 1: how many Platinum plex you got. They care about your

2708
02:33:47,040 --> 02:33:52,000
Speaker 1: legacy and those things are good. But I know dudes

2709
02:33:52,040 --> 02:33:55,560
Speaker 1: with platinum plexes that are not mentioned, the people that

2710
02:33:55,680 --> 02:33:58,640
Speaker 1: are mentioned on the people who have changed other people

2711
02:33:58,760 --> 02:34:03,160
Speaker 1: lives man and constantly continue to do it. That's the

2712
02:34:03,280 --> 02:34:07,600
Speaker 1: only way. It's circular. It's circular. It's the only way.

2713
02:34:08,480 --> 02:34:12,080
Speaker 1: I hate to see a podcast list come out of

2714
02:34:12,920 --> 02:34:16,600
Speaker 1: some kind of big podcasts event come out and I

2715
02:34:16,680 --> 02:34:19,600
Speaker 1: ain't on them or the people like me, ain't on that.

2716
02:34:19,720 --> 02:34:22,960
Speaker 1: It's independent but effective because I look in the room

2717
02:34:23,000 --> 02:34:26,600
Speaker 1: and I see everybody is already signed, and all these

2718
02:34:26,720 --> 02:34:30,640
Speaker 1: people are already blessed, and everybody multimedianaires, and somewhere along

2719
02:34:30,680 --> 02:34:33,320
Speaker 1: the lines, we don't forget that those who are blessed

2720
02:34:33,720 --> 02:34:40,000
Speaker 1: need to communicate to those who need blessings. Ain't nothing

2721
02:34:40,040 --> 02:34:43,280
Speaker 1: the dry can do for a little baby. Ain't nothing

2722
02:34:43,360 --> 02:34:46,920
Speaker 1: Thucker can do for Gunner. Ain't nothing while low can

2723
02:34:47,000 --> 02:34:50,200
Speaker 1: do for Gilly. Ain't none these dudes can do for

2724
02:34:50,320 --> 02:34:53,600
Speaker 1: each other outside of the lord they got for each other.

2725
02:34:53,640 --> 02:34:58,759
Speaker 1: I'm talking about from a perspective of innovation, business and entrepreneurship.

2726
02:34:59,280 --> 02:35:01,800
Speaker 1: We gotta create avenues for those people to be able

2727
02:35:01,840 --> 02:35:06,359
Speaker 1: to communicate to the top. And that's one of my missions.

2728
02:35:06,480 --> 02:35:08,440
Speaker 1: That's one of my missions in this game is yo,

2729
02:35:09,080 --> 02:35:11,720
Speaker 1: we gotta create some kind of free agency. We gotta

2730
02:35:11,760 --> 02:35:14,480
Speaker 1: create something where we keep people like me from being

2731
02:35:14,560 --> 02:35:17,480
Speaker 1: on the other side for too long. Life is sure

2732
02:35:17,560 --> 02:35:22,760
Speaker 1: that circumstances are severe, you understand, And if we can't

2733
02:35:22,800 --> 02:35:25,880
Speaker 1: do that, we failed. Because I keep telling y'all, I

2734
02:35:25,959 --> 02:35:29,200
Speaker 1: look at Rogan handoff audience. It's nothing for Rogan to

2735
02:35:29,280 --> 02:35:32,720
Speaker 1: get a podcast on there that got twenty five hundred

2736
02:35:32,800 --> 02:35:36,039
Speaker 1: listens and handing him off accord to me, and listens

2737
02:35:36,080 --> 02:35:38,880
Speaker 1: a week just from being on his part and executing.

2738
02:35:40,400 --> 02:35:42,680
Speaker 1: We gotta do a better job with that. We gotta

2739
02:35:42,760 --> 02:35:45,240
Speaker 1: run people through the ringer that deserve to be ran

2740
02:35:45,400 --> 02:35:47,920
Speaker 1: through the wringer. Because, as I said, believe it or not,

2741
02:35:48,080 --> 02:35:50,360
Speaker 1: as I get further and further up in this game,

2742
02:35:50,879 --> 02:35:52,840
Speaker 1: it's more and more clear to me that it's literally

2743
02:35:52,920 --> 02:35:54,720
Speaker 1: a phone call for some of these things to just

2744
02:35:54,840 --> 02:35:58,040
Speaker 1: take places. Literally one phone call, bone, Hey, sudden and

2745
02:35:58,080 --> 02:36:01,840
Speaker 1: sudden man, here's such as he's the ship, all right,

2746
02:36:02,080 --> 02:36:04,840
Speaker 1: send him over, boom Hey, We'll get you in. And

2747
02:36:04,959 --> 02:36:08,119
Speaker 1: it's literally it can literally have been like that. Dudes

2748
02:36:08,200 --> 02:36:10,200
Speaker 1: can stand to make money and won't make the call.

2749
02:36:11,560 --> 02:36:16,359
Speaker 1: So I get it, But Meek mill is speaking about longevity.

2750
02:36:16,600 --> 02:36:19,800
Speaker 1: He's speaking to the legacy. He's speaking to things that

2751
02:36:19,879 --> 02:36:24,959
Speaker 1: if they shut this lights and these cameras off, our

2752
02:36:25,040 --> 02:36:29,040
Speaker 1: lifestyle don't change. Baby. We got eyes in the fire.

2753
02:36:29,320 --> 02:36:32,840
Speaker 1: The fire continues to burn, baby, And that's what and

2754
02:36:32,959 --> 02:36:36,120
Speaker 1: that's what we got to help each other, do, you know,

2755
02:36:36,680 --> 02:36:39,760
Speaker 1: and not be afraid of the competition. I invite competition.

2756
02:36:39,879 --> 02:36:43,880
Speaker 1: I don't not like no podcast. I'm just competitive and

2757
02:36:44,080 --> 02:36:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm critical or the information because I understand how history works.

2758
02:36:48,200 --> 02:36:50,120
Speaker 1: I understand what they were trying to do when they

2759
02:36:50,200 --> 02:36:53,760
Speaker 1: was writing in the pure mids. I understand how important

2760
02:36:53,760 --> 02:36:56,119
Speaker 1: it is for us to pass the information down. It's

2761
02:36:56,160 --> 02:36:59,560
Speaker 1: effective for the people that will never ever meet, will

2762
02:36:59,640 --> 02:37:02,280
Speaker 1: never have a chance to sit next to. All they

2763
02:37:02,480 --> 02:37:05,160
Speaker 1: have is these clips. All they have is loom breaking

2764
02:37:05,200 --> 02:37:08,000
Speaker 1: it down. But hopefully they are able to cut through

2765
02:37:08,040 --> 02:37:10,800
Speaker 1: the weeds and also adapt to whatever changes that take

2766
02:37:10,920 --> 02:37:16,320
Speaker 1: place prior. I'm sorry, whatever changes take place after said

2767
02:37:16,520 --> 02:37:21,160
Speaker 1: clip or whatever game was being put down, and I

2768
02:37:21,320 --> 02:37:25,400
Speaker 1: view it from that standpoint, But we gotta help each

2769
02:37:25,440 --> 02:37:28,240
Speaker 1: other to do business and not be afraid. It's only

2770
02:37:28,360 --> 02:37:32,240
Speaker 1: more money being made, you know, And I'm clear on that.

2771
02:37:32,320 --> 02:37:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm a street dude, So I know, get that pack in,

2772
02:37:36,959 --> 02:37:39,040
Speaker 1: Get as many people as you can that you can

2773
02:37:39,080 --> 02:37:42,320
Speaker 1: trust that there's a lot reliable with getting that money back.

2774
02:37:42,520 --> 02:37:45,200
Speaker 1: And get that shit out your house and not your spots,

2775
02:37:45,240 --> 02:37:48,720
Speaker 1: and get it out there. A lot of people. It's

2776
02:37:48,760 --> 02:37:50,360
Speaker 1: just like in the street. A lot of people go

2777
02:37:50,440 --> 02:37:52,879
Speaker 1: to jail with people owing them. A lot of people

2778
02:37:52,920 --> 02:37:55,080
Speaker 1: go to jail with shit out on the street. You

2779
02:37:55,160 --> 02:37:57,480
Speaker 1: gotta get that shit out. You gotta get that shit

2780
02:37:57,560 --> 02:38:00,000
Speaker 1: out for it to come in. A lot of people

2781
02:38:00,040 --> 02:38:02,000
Speaker 1: would just want to take from the game, take and

2782
02:38:02,120 --> 02:38:04,320
Speaker 1: take and take and take and take and take and

2783
02:38:04,440 --> 02:38:06,200
Speaker 1: take from the game, and they don't put nothing in

2784
02:38:06,280 --> 02:38:10,680
Speaker 1: the game. You keep ringing up. You think we're gonna

2785
02:38:10,760 --> 02:38:13,280
Speaker 1: keep listening to YouTube. You ain't help chain nobody life.

2786
02:38:13,400 --> 02:38:15,960
Speaker 1: All this power will talk, you talk, all this you

2787
02:38:16,080 --> 02:38:18,160
Speaker 1: can do it. You next up, You got it. You

2788
02:38:18,320 --> 02:38:21,400
Speaker 1: the ship, Black people, Let's work together, Let's not down

2789
02:38:21,520 --> 02:38:25,080
Speaker 1: each other. Let's support each other. All this talk you

2790
02:38:25,200 --> 02:38:28,840
Speaker 1: do about Dan and you ain't springboarded now podcast, You

2791
02:38:28,920 --> 02:38:35,040
Speaker 1: ain't springboarding now. Rapper now speaker, now preacher, now officer,

2792
02:38:35,320 --> 02:38:37,760
Speaker 1: whatever it is you do now, co worker, All this

2793
02:38:38,000 --> 02:38:41,240
Speaker 1: unity to talk y'all ain't springboarding nothing. Y'all ain't help

2794
02:38:41,360 --> 02:38:44,200
Speaker 1: launching nothing. That's why when I talk to Revote, they

2795
02:38:44,280 --> 02:38:47,520
Speaker 1: clear on what the concept is. We want to launch you.

2796
02:38:48,920 --> 02:38:52,760
Speaker 1: We want to make sure you get in position right,

2797
02:38:53,120 --> 02:38:57,280
Speaker 1: mutually beneficial, not one hand, get all the other colors

2798
02:38:57,320 --> 02:39:00,560
Speaker 1: and then this hand over here, get the yellow stop birds. Nah,

2799
02:39:00,680 --> 02:39:03,800
Speaker 1: we ain't doing that, you see. And some people are

2800
02:39:03,840 --> 02:39:06,360
Speaker 1: clearing the objective to really help us, and others are

2801
02:39:06,440 --> 02:39:11,120
Speaker 1: just using that as a marketing strategy like you can

2802
02:39:11,200 --> 02:39:13,520
Speaker 1: do it, just all you gotta do, like, nah, bro,

2803
02:39:13,680 --> 02:39:15,600
Speaker 1: this is this, take this take a lot to do,

2804
02:39:15,879 --> 02:39:18,920
Speaker 1: especially without the hilp or or nable or a way

2805
02:39:18,959 --> 02:39:21,120
Speaker 1: to contact some of these people that's in position and

2806
02:39:21,240 --> 02:39:23,960
Speaker 1: just be like yo, I'm a dope podcast or what

2807
02:39:24,120 --> 02:39:26,800
Speaker 1: do I do? You gotta do what Loan did and

2808
02:39:26,920 --> 02:39:29,840
Speaker 1: spend money and do this and do that and get

2809
02:39:29,920 --> 02:39:31,800
Speaker 1: with these people in that like it's a lot you

2810
02:39:31,920 --> 02:39:34,520
Speaker 1: gotta do. You understand me? And I want to be

2811
02:39:34,720 --> 02:39:37,360
Speaker 1: clear because I don't need people to go take the

2812
02:39:37,480 --> 02:39:39,440
Speaker 1: rent money and think all they gotta do is do

2813
02:39:39,640 --> 02:39:42,600
Speaker 1: this and they own because it don't work like that.

2814
02:39:42,840 --> 02:39:46,400
Speaker 1: Although it's obtainable. You just gotta be committed. You gotta

2815
02:39:46,640 --> 02:39:50,560
Speaker 1: gotta make a commitment. Ain't nothing different. Everybody you see

2816
02:39:50,600 --> 02:39:52,879
Speaker 1: this own that made some kind of commitment, and that's

2817
02:39:52,879 --> 02:39:55,680
Speaker 1: all you gotta do. Made the commitment, but not go

2818
02:39:55,879 --> 02:40:00,520
Speaker 1: just buy the equipment. You gotta make the commitment, and

2819
02:40:00,640 --> 02:40:03,120
Speaker 1: then that's gonna separate the men from the mice. You

2820
02:40:03,240 --> 02:40:07,080
Speaker 1: see me every week, I'm like clockwork. I'd have been

2821
02:40:07,120 --> 02:40:09,320
Speaker 1: in the hospital, I don'd have been in two cities

2822
02:40:09,360 --> 02:40:11,720
Speaker 1: in a day. I'd haven't been in ten cities in

2823
02:40:11,800 --> 02:40:17,520
Speaker 1: a week, And I'm every week like clockwork. I've made

2824
02:40:17,520 --> 02:40:22,000
Speaker 1: a commitment. And that's what separates the men from the mice.

2825
02:40:22,120 --> 02:40:26,600
Speaker 1: That's successful from the non successful, the duors from the sales,

2826
02:40:28,840 --> 02:40:33,440
Speaker 1: the leaders from the loss. You gotta put yourself in

2827
02:40:33,520 --> 02:40:35,560
Speaker 1: a position to be committed, and that's what it is.

2828
02:40:35,640 --> 02:40:40,600
Speaker 1: I am. Let me speak about Verses for those of

2829
02:40:40,640 --> 02:40:44,120
Speaker 1: you are nowhere. Versus just did another one music Soul

2830
02:40:44,280 --> 02:40:51,039
Speaker 1: Child Versus Anthony Hamilton. I enjoyed it. Prior to the event,

2831
02:40:51,400 --> 02:40:53,960
Speaker 1: there was an announcement saying that you will not be

2832
02:40:54,080 --> 02:40:57,600
Speaker 1: able to see it on Instagram, which would be changing

2833
02:40:57,640 --> 02:41:01,680
Speaker 1: their business model. Swiss Beast was unaware of it. Came

2834
02:41:01,720 --> 02:41:04,240
Speaker 1: back and said that's not true. It will be on Instagram.

2835
02:41:04,360 --> 02:41:08,480
Speaker 1: So clearly there's some conversation in the background about changing

2836
02:41:08,520 --> 02:41:11,240
Speaker 1: that business model and they want to go more exclusive

2837
02:41:11,320 --> 02:41:14,920
Speaker 1: with it. Maybe thriller than people on that side. I'm

2838
02:41:14,959 --> 02:41:17,920
Speaker 1: not sure. I think if you go more exclusive with it,

2839
02:41:18,000 --> 02:41:20,920
Speaker 1: you ignore the impact of it. Is sometimes the impact

2840
02:41:21,000 --> 02:41:23,039
Speaker 1: of it. You got to view it as a lost leader.

2841
02:41:24,200 --> 02:41:27,440
Speaker 1: You gotta view Versus as a vehicle to get other

2842
02:41:27,600 --> 02:41:30,680
Speaker 1: things in front of this amount of people instead of

2843
02:41:32,120 --> 02:41:35,400
Speaker 1: centralizing it in one place. Right, Sometimes you send an

2844
02:41:35,440 --> 02:41:37,680
Speaker 1: old dog out there to get some food and bring

2845
02:41:37,800 --> 02:41:41,199
Speaker 1: it back, you know, and sometimes you do that with Versus.

2846
02:41:41,240 --> 02:41:43,520
Speaker 1: What you do is you beef up your integration some

2847
02:41:43,720 --> 02:41:46,240
Speaker 1: kind of way, some kind of way. You beef the

2848
02:41:46,280 --> 02:41:49,000
Speaker 1: integration up with your new shows and Versus and not

2849
02:41:49,200 --> 02:41:51,400
Speaker 1: corny like because they tend to do things it's so

2850
02:41:51,600 --> 02:41:54,680
Speaker 1: obvious and corny and it's like they paid for that spot.

2851
02:41:55,520 --> 02:41:58,600
Speaker 1: Gotta be organic. They maybe got to spend some time

2852
02:41:58,720 --> 02:42:00,960
Speaker 1: at Versus with the people that creates it for the

2853
02:42:01,400 --> 02:42:06,200
Speaker 1: four weeks or four Versus battles prior to even going

2854
02:42:06,320 --> 02:42:09,920
Speaker 1: to the board to create what we think we should do, right,

2855
02:42:10,440 --> 02:42:14,280
Speaker 1: because again, what we have to do is we have

2856
02:42:14,440 --> 02:42:17,560
Speaker 1: to understand how we use one thing to catapult the other,

2857
02:42:18,120 --> 02:42:20,720
Speaker 1: similar to what you see fifty sitting nor with power.

2858
02:42:21,440 --> 02:42:24,840
Speaker 1: All right, use power to catapult ghosts. Use ghosts to

2859
02:42:24,920 --> 02:42:30,080
Speaker 1: catapult t Req, use Teriq to catapult Tommy, use Tommy

2860
02:42:30,160 --> 02:42:33,320
Speaker 1: to I mean use that, you know, caning somewhere falls

2861
02:42:33,360 --> 02:42:36,920
Speaker 1: in that, like all these things are using the momentum

2862
02:42:36,920 --> 02:42:39,080
Speaker 1: of these other things. And this is how you do it.

2863
02:42:39,840 --> 02:42:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm giving you supreme game right now. This is consultation fee.

2864
02:42:44,680 --> 02:42:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm giving you supreme game. And so when that announcement

2865
02:42:49,200 --> 02:42:52,560
Speaker 1: came out, I was it's like, yo, I don't know, man,

2866
02:42:52,600 --> 02:42:55,160
Speaker 1: it's changing the business. I didn't say nothing. But when

2867
02:42:55,240 --> 02:42:57,600
Speaker 1: Swiss came out and let me know, okay, so somebody

2868
02:42:57,720 --> 02:43:01,000
Speaker 1: behind the scenes may want to take whatever audience we

2869
02:43:01,120 --> 02:43:04,680
Speaker 1: have here and just go ahead and convert it. We

2870
02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:06,880
Speaker 1: want to go exclusive with it and go ahead and

2871
02:43:06,920 --> 02:43:10,920
Speaker 1: convert it. And Swiss Tim then probably is arguing impact

2872
02:43:11,000 --> 02:43:13,840
Speaker 1: and lost leader, which would be my argument on that.

2873
02:43:16,080 --> 02:43:21,920
Speaker 1: But Music Soul Child and Anthony Hamilton I get mixed

2874
02:43:21,959 --> 02:43:24,360
Speaker 1: reviews on it. I hear some people saying Music Soul

2875
02:43:24,440 --> 02:43:28,240
Speaker 1: Child did great out here, others saying, ah, he did outright.

2876
02:43:28,760 --> 02:43:30,640
Speaker 1: For me, he had one of the shortest hood is

2877
02:43:30,720 --> 02:43:33,360
Speaker 1: on I've ever seen. Let me see if I can

2878
02:43:33,440 --> 02:43:36,560
Speaker 1: find him. Okay, So here's the hoodie had on. It

2879
02:43:36,760 --> 02:43:40,760
Speaker 1: was some kind of you know, I was unfamiliar with

2880
02:43:40,920 --> 02:43:44,720
Speaker 1: that type of hood I had never seen nothing cut

2881
02:43:44,879 --> 02:43:48,160
Speaker 1: that way, you know, to stop there, would you know?

2882
02:43:48,640 --> 02:43:52,840
Speaker 1: So again, that was the first thing that kind of

2883
02:43:53,360 --> 02:43:57,120
Speaker 1: caught my eyes to see such a shorthoodie, you know.

2884
02:43:57,240 --> 02:44:00,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it was an interesting thing unless they had

2885
02:44:00,760 --> 02:44:03,960
Speaker 1: a great event. And I think Anthony Hamilton he was

2886
02:44:04,080 --> 02:44:07,959
Speaker 1: killing it. I think his music sounded better. Some people

2887
02:44:08,000 --> 02:44:10,560
Speaker 1: said they, oh music, soul child was freaking it up.

2888
02:44:10,600 --> 02:44:13,760
Speaker 1: There he was. He was. He was killing it for me.

2889
02:44:13,920 --> 02:44:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying you, yeah, but you don't experiment with that

2890
02:44:17,160 --> 02:44:20,160
Speaker 1: type of audience tapped and it's the casuals tapped in

2891
02:44:20,280 --> 02:44:24,560
Speaker 1: the night. Baby, you're dealing with the casuals. You don't

2892
02:44:24,600 --> 02:44:26,720
Speaker 1: do that with the casuals. You do that with the

2893
02:44:26,840 --> 02:44:30,040
Speaker 1: home team, they get it. You don't do that with

2894
02:44:30,120 --> 02:44:34,800
Speaker 1: the casuals. So, in my opinion, Anthony Hamilton's music sounded

2895
02:44:34,920 --> 02:44:37,120
Speaker 1: better just coming out because he sounded more like he

2896
02:44:37,240 --> 02:44:39,040
Speaker 1: did on the records right, and he brought out a

2897
02:44:39,080 --> 02:44:42,400
Speaker 1: lot of people. Did this thing music Soul Child kind

2898
02:44:42,440 --> 02:44:45,120
Speaker 1: of did it by itself for the most part. He

2899
02:44:45,280 --> 02:44:49,520
Speaker 1: had Jack Thriller hosting it, and some of the insults

2900
02:44:49,840 --> 02:44:51,720
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't know, it didn't come off

2901
02:44:51,800 --> 02:44:55,200
Speaker 1: as Jack Thriller and it didn't really give ad to it.

2902
02:44:55,280 --> 02:44:57,760
Speaker 1: I'll say that because I don't never want to diminish

2903
02:44:57,800 --> 02:44:59,920
Speaker 1: your man and not get a check as as if

2904
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,040
Speaker 1: I can't even stop that. But it just didn't add

2905
02:45:03,160 --> 02:45:06,520
Speaker 1: to what I felt like the show was, you know

2906
02:45:06,560 --> 02:45:08,720
Speaker 1: what I mean, just when you know, it was just

2907
02:45:09,360 --> 02:45:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just didn't do nothing, you know.

2908
02:45:12,400 --> 02:45:15,240
Speaker 1: And I didn't understand why you had Jack there, did

2909
02:45:15,280 --> 02:45:19,040
Speaker 1: you that likes you shy some or like I really didn't.

2910
02:45:19,320 --> 02:45:21,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just didn't hit like I thought

2911
02:45:21,280 --> 02:45:25,039
Speaker 1: it should hit. Um Anthony Hamilton had Jermaine dupri as

2912
02:45:25,120 --> 02:45:28,760
Speaker 1: his DJ, which was dope. You know. J D's a legend.

2913
02:45:29,200 --> 02:45:32,000
Speaker 1: The only opportunity that I see with versus or with

2914
02:45:32,120 --> 02:45:34,760
Speaker 1: those live shows, and again it's running guns, so it's

2915
02:45:35,560 --> 02:45:37,960
Speaker 1: it's hell how to do it, but maybe they should

2916
02:45:38,000 --> 02:45:40,360
Speaker 1: do a sound check with them. People had that Mike said,

2917
02:45:40,400 --> 02:45:43,360
Speaker 1: because sometimes people running out, like the lady ran out

2918
02:45:43,440 --> 02:45:46,480
Speaker 1: with UM in black, she ran out with UM Anthony

2919
02:45:46,560 --> 02:45:49,680
Speaker 1: Hamilton and Mike was so low. They fixed it a

2920
02:45:49,760 --> 02:45:52,680
Speaker 1: little bit halfway through, but it still was slow, like

2921
02:45:52,920 --> 02:45:55,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't she wasn't able to get it off, like

2922
02:45:55,520 --> 02:45:59,680
Speaker 1: she was trying to get it off. And you're seeing

2923
02:45:59,760 --> 02:46:02,000
Speaker 1: her switch back with Anthony Hamiltons because at first it

2924
02:46:02,120 --> 02:46:05,520
Speaker 1: wasn't even working and he gave her heels. Then she

2925
02:46:05,680 --> 02:46:07,840
Speaker 1: switched back because she's probably saying, now it's made for

2926
02:46:07,920 --> 02:46:10,160
Speaker 1: your voice. They got they didn't got your levels together,

2927
02:46:10,560 --> 02:46:13,520
Speaker 1: so keep your mic. But it stings like that that

2928
02:46:13,959 --> 02:46:17,880
Speaker 1: the actual fan. They may hit the noise change, but

2929
02:46:17,959 --> 02:46:20,480
Speaker 1: they don't really know what's happening. It's just hot. It's

2930
02:46:20,560 --> 02:46:23,560
Speaker 1: just hard to get a hot mic in the fly

2931
02:46:23,760 --> 02:46:26,280
Speaker 1: the moment, like going out right now, he just started

2932
02:46:26,320 --> 02:46:28,160
Speaker 1: this song, I right, go go, go, go and give

2933
02:46:28,240 --> 02:46:29,960
Speaker 1: him a mic and it's hot, it's ready to go

2934
02:46:30,040 --> 02:46:32,040
Speaker 1: and the levels are right. It's just hard to do

2935
02:46:32,160 --> 02:46:34,840
Speaker 1: that unless you just got Mike's laying around and so

2936
02:46:34,959 --> 02:46:36,960
Speaker 1: when they do they sound check, you get one and

2937
02:46:37,080 --> 02:46:39,840
Speaker 1: you mark it. This is juicy, j Mike. This is

2938
02:46:40,120 --> 02:46:42,480
Speaker 1: such a such mic. This is such a such mic.

2939
02:46:42,600 --> 02:46:44,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's really the only way you will be

2940
02:46:44,360 --> 02:46:47,040
Speaker 1: able to do that. But Anthony Hamilton didn't make it

2941
02:46:47,120 --> 02:46:49,920
Speaker 1: complicated that all. He took k business in my opinion

2942
02:46:50,240 --> 02:46:52,520
Speaker 1: again versus as a staple in the game. I see

2943
02:46:52,560 --> 02:46:56,280
Speaker 1: now they're doing the NBA highlights versus. I'm sure they'll

2944
02:46:56,320 --> 02:46:58,760
Speaker 1: tweak that. They'll find a way to integrate that. I

2945
02:46:58,840 --> 02:47:01,040
Speaker 1: got some great ideas that I maybe can add to that.

2946
02:47:01,120 --> 02:47:03,880
Speaker 1: I got to stop giving ideas out for free. As

2947
02:47:04,280 --> 02:47:07,320
Speaker 1: as you know, I am trying to monetize my perspective.

2948
02:47:07,400 --> 02:47:10,320
Speaker 1: That's what this is all about. But um offering this

2949
02:47:10,440 --> 02:47:14,800
Speaker 1: amount of game to the game all to get me

2950
02:47:14,920 --> 02:47:16,840
Speaker 1: the kind of equity where I can move around and

2951
02:47:17,160 --> 02:47:19,560
Speaker 1: get the kind of numbers I need to sustain. Right,

2952
02:47:19,640 --> 02:47:22,200
Speaker 1: So we'll make sure that takes place. Let's see if

2953
02:47:22,200 --> 02:47:25,959
Speaker 1: we got anything else. Let's hit on this really quick again.

2954
02:47:26,040 --> 02:47:30,080
Speaker 1: As I explain to you guys about Fresh and Fit,

2955
02:47:31,000 --> 02:47:35,320
Speaker 1: that the business model is the business model, the approach

2956
02:47:35,480 --> 02:47:40,880
Speaker 1: is the approach. Fortunately for them, they still find women

2957
02:47:41,000 --> 02:47:44,720
Speaker 1: black women going on their show for whatever reason to

2958
02:47:46,760 --> 02:47:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, do they want too? Now you know you

2959
02:47:49,080 --> 02:47:51,440
Speaker 1: do it with it? What you may, it's your business,

2960
02:47:51,520 --> 02:47:54,240
Speaker 1: you know. Like I say, as far as what they

2961
02:47:54,360 --> 02:47:57,400
Speaker 1: bring to the coach, I've been clear on what I

2962
02:47:57,520 --> 02:48:01,480
Speaker 1: think they do and and how I feel as though

2963
02:48:01,520 --> 02:48:04,880
Speaker 1: they navigate around him. Right we have another case of

2964
02:48:04,959 --> 02:48:08,119
Speaker 1: it now. Interesting the kind of people that they're picking.

2965
02:48:08,200 --> 02:48:11,360
Speaker 1: Tommy Soldomayor went on the Fresh and Fit for people

2966
02:48:11,400 --> 02:48:13,400
Speaker 1: that who don't who don't know who that is. He's

2967
02:48:13,440 --> 02:48:15,400
Speaker 1: one of these internet dudes. It's been out there for

2968
02:48:15,520 --> 02:48:19,960
Speaker 1: a long time, and if you're a student of the

2969
02:48:20,080 --> 02:48:24,760
Speaker 1: game or just content and internet talking and all of that,

2970
02:48:25,920 --> 02:48:28,920
Speaker 1: you don't ran across the clipper hills or something he's

2971
02:48:29,000 --> 02:48:31,240
Speaker 1: done at some point. He has a big thing going

2972
02:48:31,280 --> 02:48:33,720
Speaker 1: on with Kwammy Brown as well right now. So him

2973
02:48:33,760 --> 02:48:37,000
Speaker 1: and Kwami got some situations that they can't seem to

2974
02:48:37,920 --> 02:48:42,800
Speaker 1: get over. Tommy Soldomayor said some things about black women,

2975
02:48:42,840 --> 02:48:45,840
Speaker 1: about wigs, about how you know, he's one of those

2976
02:48:45,920 --> 02:48:48,400
Speaker 1: dudes that like to play with the scenario, right, So

2977
02:48:48,600 --> 02:48:50,720
Speaker 1: he are down you about your hair and all of this,

2978
02:48:50,920 --> 02:48:53,120
Speaker 1: and then try to uplift you somewhere in there. So

2979
02:48:53,240 --> 02:48:56,400
Speaker 1: when you reference that conversation, he can reference the fact

2980
02:48:56,480 --> 02:48:58,640
Speaker 1: that he didn't just tear you down, but he told

2981
02:48:58,720 --> 02:49:00,920
Speaker 1: you the truth in his opinion. In and the like,

2982
02:49:01,080 --> 02:49:04,200
Speaker 1: these are high level. Would you just to games that

2983
02:49:04,320 --> 02:49:07,760
Speaker 1: these guys like to play? Um, you gotta be well

2984
02:49:07,800 --> 02:49:10,760
Speaker 1: equipped to navigate around this ship. Here we are with

2985
02:49:10,840 --> 02:49:13,120
Speaker 1: another case of a fresh and fit having a situation

2986
02:49:13,240 --> 02:49:17,760
Speaker 1: where a girl gets the arguing with a guy and

2987
02:49:17,959 --> 02:49:20,560
Speaker 1: things explode. Let's take a look at what happened. If

2988
02:49:20,600 --> 02:49:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to heights around, care follows you because I

2989
02:49:24,800 --> 02:49:27,000
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't see nothing else but black, but

2990
02:49:27,400 --> 02:49:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't care. Hey, Jesus about care anybody? I will

2991
02:49:34,680 --> 02:49:37,520
Speaker 1: say that you can't follow my account. I'm still rich,

2992
02:49:37,640 --> 02:49:40,480
Speaker 1: so I don't care. Don't matter follow. Money don't make

2993
02:49:40,600 --> 02:49:43,440
Speaker 1: nobody apparently does if you do the shit you do

2994
02:49:43,600 --> 02:49:47,320
Speaker 1: for it. Money don't make nobody. You talk bad about

2995
02:49:47,360 --> 02:49:49,880
Speaker 1: the thing that you talked up, Jesus, Why wouldn't someone

2996
02:49:49,959 --> 02:49:52,520
Speaker 1: listen to you when you say, I understand you don't

2997
02:49:52,600 --> 02:49:55,920
Speaker 1: like watching it. Don't watch it. That's why don't I

2998
02:49:56,000 --> 02:50:00,440
Speaker 1: don't go follow. I'm gonna do we care? Okay, I

2999
02:50:00,560 --> 02:50:07,400
Speaker 1: don't care. Just don't give a fuck. Obviously you don't.

3000
02:50:07,480 --> 02:50:12,120
Speaker 1: You brought it up. Obviously you're getting mad because you

3001
02:50:12,240 --> 02:50:16,880
Speaker 1: keep talking about it. Obviously where else? You know, I

3002
02:50:16,959 --> 02:50:19,680
Speaker 1: don't give a fun to announce it, So of course

3003
02:50:19,760 --> 02:50:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna announce that the question. You sit insane? No,

3004
02:50:25,240 --> 02:50:29,959
Speaker 1: you sound insane. You're bothered by what I post because

3005
02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:32,560
Speaker 1: I didn't want to see it. Give Jesus Christ. She

3006
02:50:32,640 --> 02:50:36,480
Speaker 1: don't understand. I understand, all right, all right, let me

3007
02:50:36,600 --> 02:50:39,879
Speaker 1: let me just mediate real fast. I understand, trust stand,

3008
02:50:39,959 --> 02:50:43,760
Speaker 1: shy shy, simply understand. I will tell you this because

3009
02:50:43,760 --> 02:50:47,000
Speaker 1: I still follow him on Instagram. He makes fun of everybody. No,

3010
02:50:47,160 --> 02:50:51,560
Speaker 1: he don't, he does, you know? Yeah? Like so whether

3011
02:50:51,640 --> 02:50:54,400
Speaker 1: he you know, I mean, I guess you can try

3012
02:50:54,480 --> 02:50:57,720
Speaker 1: to make an argument that he disproportionately insults black women more,

3013
02:50:57,840 --> 02:50:59,800
Speaker 1: makes jokes on them more. But he makes fun of

3014
02:50:59,840 --> 02:51:02,320
Speaker 1: every everyone. Um, And you know, I kind of this

3015
02:51:02,440 --> 02:51:05,560
Speaker 1: is kind of turn the issue. Like if you don't

3016
02:51:05,600 --> 02:51:07,640
Speaker 1: like content, just don't watch it. And that's it, you

3017
02:51:07,680 --> 02:51:09,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I'm followed. That's why I

3018
02:51:09,400 --> 02:51:11,360
Speaker 1: don't watch it. But I just wanted to address him

3019
02:51:11,400 --> 02:51:13,039
Speaker 1: for it. I'mna be honest. I didn't know he would

3020
02:51:13,040 --> 02:51:15,240
Speaker 1: be here tonight. I always wanted to question him that

3021
02:51:15,560 --> 02:51:19,680
Speaker 1: he texts my phone just to make sure that I'm

3022
02:51:19,720 --> 02:51:22,480
Speaker 1: good and I respect that, but I don't reply because

3023
02:51:22,480 --> 02:51:25,520
Speaker 1: I simply don't respect him more because he's just the

3024
02:51:25,600 --> 02:51:27,400
Speaker 1: fact that what he posts on the ground and it's

3025
02:51:27,400 --> 02:51:29,400
Speaker 1: just like what you're texting me for. And you do

3026
02:51:29,520 --> 02:51:32,160
Speaker 1: all this to try to play black women like they

3027
02:51:32,280 --> 02:51:35,560
Speaker 1: just just always iggering it or don't fucking know shit

3028
02:51:35,720 --> 02:51:40,080
Speaker 1: like you can't do. If you care, you wouldn't downlay.

3029
02:51:40,800 --> 02:51:44,040
Speaker 1: If you care, you wouldn't down he's trying to benefiting

3030
02:51:44,080 --> 02:51:46,879
Speaker 1: your image. Why can't we just have this debate? Please

3031
02:51:47,040 --> 02:51:49,360
Speaker 1: nobody else? But you know I ain't to me when

3032
02:51:49,360 --> 02:51:51,440
Speaker 1: I speak, you're telling me what I should be doing

3033
02:51:51,480 --> 02:51:53,959
Speaker 1: instead of asking me why I do it. I ask

3034
02:51:54,040 --> 02:51:56,360
Speaker 1: you why. I accept it. When I asked you why.

3035
02:51:56,440 --> 02:51:59,040
Speaker 1: That was my first I say. When I say, I

3036
02:51:59,120 --> 02:52:01,240
Speaker 1: asked you why, and when I asked you why, and

3037
02:52:01,360 --> 02:52:02,879
Speaker 1: when I and I asked you why and I asked

3038
02:52:02,920 --> 02:52:06,280
Speaker 1: you why? Continue? All right, So she simply put, he

3039
02:52:06,360 --> 02:52:08,880
Speaker 1: makes this content. You might not like how he disproportionate

3040
02:52:09,360 --> 02:52:11,720
Speaker 1: black woman, but yeah, you have the right to do that.

3041
02:52:11,840 --> 02:52:15,320
Speaker 1: I mean the fact. So it's just a little like

3042
02:52:15,640 --> 02:52:17,640
Speaker 1: it's like you're you're it's like if you're if you

3043
02:52:17,680 --> 02:52:19,920
Speaker 1: don't like something, just don't watch it. I don't. That's

3044
02:52:19,959 --> 02:52:22,000
Speaker 1: why I don't follow two weeks ago. I don't want

3045
02:52:22,000 --> 02:52:23,360
Speaker 1: to see it. But I didn't know he would be

3046
02:52:23,480 --> 02:52:28,680
Speaker 1: here to ask him that question today. All right, I

3047
02:52:28,760 --> 02:52:30,920
Speaker 1: think that she wants to be a controller person because

3048
02:52:30,920 --> 02:52:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to concert it. I just want to know.

3049
02:52:33,120 --> 02:52:35,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to know why girl didn't want to date me.

3050
02:52:35,680 --> 02:52:39,480
Speaker 1: If she says it, that's the answer. Not to argue

3051
02:52:39,520 --> 02:52:45,040
Speaker 1: with this girl as she states it. You no, you

3052
02:52:45,160 --> 02:52:50,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't tell me funny as funny as fun because, like

3053
02:52:50,800 --> 02:52:54,360
Speaker 1: he you get answer to a question. You know what

3054
02:52:54,480 --> 02:52:58,040
Speaker 1: I would you ask? You got an answer to a

3055
02:52:58,240 --> 02:53:03,800
Speaker 1: question you ask? Why do I? Most this is the

3056
02:53:03,920 --> 02:53:06,880
Speaker 1: most likely sold many black people on his platform. But

3057
02:53:06,959 --> 02:53:09,240
Speaker 1: this nigga was trying to fuck a bad bitch like me,

3058
02:53:09,520 --> 02:53:12,280
Speaker 1: like stop playing like you sh He flew me to

3059
02:53:12,480 --> 02:53:16,160
Speaker 1: him and your friend and my friends? What your friend?

3060
02:53:16,280 --> 02:53:22,040
Speaker 1: Why the hell you that you're doing that things? Was

3061
02:53:22,160 --> 02:53:35,280
Speaker 1: s trying to ask you, trying to try this is why,

3062
02:53:35,560 --> 02:53:37,720
Speaker 1: this is why black bitches get kicked out of clubs

3063
02:53:37,720 --> 02:53:41,800
Speaker 1: and shit. I don't give so truth. You're a truth.

3064
02:53:42,040 --> 02:53:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm not acting stupid as you are. I'm trying to

3065
02:53:45,200 --> 02:53:47,600
Speaker 1: Why are you getting something to say it because you're

3066
02:53:47,640 --> 02:53:52,040
Speaker 1: being done. It's you being I'm not being igorant. It's

3067
02:53:52,080 --> 02:53:55,000
Speaker 1: the truth. You flew to my house. You said you

3068
02:53:55,120 --> 02:54:00,200
Speaker 1: want exactly I didn't. I don't is just where I said.

3069
02:54:00,200 --> 02:54:04,320
Speaker 1: I say, you literally did. No, I did not think me.

3070
02:54:04,520 --> 02:54:08,560
Speaker 1: Now we were going on the podcast for your holy fan.

3071
02:54:09,560 --> 02:54:14,160
Speaker 1: This is all the receptis like, oh no, some can't dad,

3072
02:54:15,640 --> 02:54:18,520
Speaker 1: and she's a porter body. No, I'm not a party party.

3073
02:54:18,560 --> 02:54:21,920
Speaker 1: Tell me what nigga shit on? Shut me much. No,

3074
02:54:22,080 --> 02:54:24,400
Speaker 1: because if you want people to know, you're going to

3075
02:54:24,560 --> 02:54:31,080
Speaker 1: let somebody know. I tried to. This is because fuck him,

3076
02:54:31,160 --> 02:54:37,440
Speaker 1: only fan. I didn't want to fun today. Man, money,

3077
02:54:37,480 --> 02:54:39,920
Speaker 1: it's the glue fucking with you. Just pay me, do

3078
02:54:40,080 --> 02:54:44,280
Speaker 1: you hear me? This bitch is stupid. I'm dad. That's

3079
02:54:44,320 --> 02:54:48,119
Speaker 1: not your dad's drunk stupid. I promised weed too. Take

3080
02:54:48,240 --> 02:54:50,680
Speaker 1: You need a different kind of glue. I'm not drunk, right,

3081
02:54:52,320 --> 02:54:55,200
Speaker 1: A bitch just up to just being for no reason. No, no, no,

3082
02:54:55,320 --> 02:54:58,119
Speaker 1: he not gonna try to play me. Who's you stupid bitch?

3083
02:54:58,360 --> 02:55:02,520
Speaker 1: No bitch, you want no. So shortly after that, the

3084
02:55:02,600 --> 02:55:05,080
Speaker 1: young lady then when it sat with Kwame Brown. I

3085
02:55:05,200 --> 02:55:07,840
Speaker 1: continue to tell you guys that Kwamie and Tommy had

3086
02:55:07,920 --> 02:55:11,279
Speaker 1: some sort of be for an issue on the internet,

3087
02:55:11,360 --> 02:55:15,480
Speaker 1: and so she wouldn't said with Kwame Brown, let's take

3088
02:55:15,480 --> 02:55:17,000
Speaker 1: a look at a little bit of it. It's on

3089
02:55:17,120 --> 02:55:20,800
Speaker 1: a podcast, and it's easy to fly out. And then

3090
02:55:20,920 --> 02:55:22,880
Speaker 1: then you're talking about you putting them on, getting them

3091
02:55:22,959 --> 02:55:26,280
Speaker 1: money and just to try to U make their only

3092
02:55:26,360 --> 02:55:29,920
Speaker 1: fans led tell about everybody getting paid. No, I'm not one. Yeah,

3093
02:55:29,959 --> 02:55:33,360
Speaker 1: I do only fans. Don't get me wrong. I get

3094
02:55:33,560 --> 02:55:36,280
Speaker 1: only fans, but I don't need my only fans to

3095
02:55:36,360 --> 02:55:39,440
Speaker 1: help me get money at all. So he told me

3096
02:55:39,800 --> 02:55:42,560
Speaker 1: the next day come. I was like, um, so are

3097
02:55:42,600 --> 02:55:44,600
Speaker 1: we gonna do the podcast? You know, because that's what

3098
02:55:44,680 --> 02:55:48,160
Speaker 1: I originally came out here for. He's like, it's like

3099
02:55:48,440 --> 02:55:52,560
Speaker 1: making like really was trying to contemplate, and so h

3100
02:55:52,800 --> 02:55:55,000
Speaker 1: we end up doing a podcast. So were in doing

3101
02:55:55,040 --> 02:55:57,840
Speaker 1: a podcast, and I'm like, you know, I really ready

3102
02:55:57,879 --> 02:56:00,560
Speaker 1: to go, Like hen just booked my flight back to Miami,

3103
02:56:01,000 --> 02:56:03,600
Speaker 1: and he booked my flight back to Miami and my

3104
02:56:03,879 --> 02:56:07,800
Speaker 1: friends she stayed. So whatever happened when after that? When

3105
02:56:07,800 --> 02:56:11,200
Speaker 1: I have that's what happened. He is a liar when

3106
02:56:11,520 --> 02:56:14,160
Speaker 1: and say I'm jealous of her because of her scan tone,

3107
02:56:14,480 --> 02:56:16,760
Speaker 1: he is lying talking about all the girls was on

3108
02:56:16,840 --> 02:56:20,280
Speaker 1: the show, I was jealous of last night and lies.

3109
02:56:20,440 --> 02:56:23,240
Speaker 1: As you can see on the whole entire show last night,

3110
02:56:23,400 --> 02:56:27,920
Speaker 1: everybody was vibbing until the end. He didn't have nothing

3111
02:56:27,959 --> 02:56:29,920
Speaker 1: else to think of. So of course she gonna say,

3112
02:56:30,120 --> 02:56:33,080
Speaker 1: oh she jealous of light Skins, Oh she jealous. I'm

3113
02:56:33,120 --> 02:56:37,480
Speaker 1: not jealous of no butt. Like what the to being

3114
02:56:37,560 --> 02:56:40,520
Speaker 1: jealous of somebody? For it? Bro What somebody got that

3115
02:56:40,600 --> 02:56:42,680
Speaker 1: I don't? So I didn't. I didn't really get why

3116
02:56:42,760 --> 02:56:45,760
Speaker 1: he kept saying I'm jealous of Cloudia. I'm jealous of Cloudia.

3117
02:56:45,920 --> 02:56:48,240
Speaker 1: How I'm jealous of Cloudia when I'm putting her own

3118
02:56:48,280 --> 02:56:50,120
Speaker 1: You would never even know who she was if it

3119
02:56:50,200 --> 02:56:52,680
Speaker 1: wan't for me. I was originally supposed to be on

3120
02:56:52,800 --> 02:56:56,160
Speaker 1: Fresh and Fit myself. I asked them can I bring

3121
02:56:56,240 --> 02:57:02,360
Speaker 1: a friend with me? And she came realized that I

3122
02:57:02,480 --> 02:57:05,280
Speaker 1: put everybody on around me. I don't gotta hate on nobody.

3123
02:57:05,360 --> 02:57:08,560
Speaker 1: I need my whole team to winning Broke. I look

3124
02:57:08,640 --> 02:57:14,320
Speaker 1: like winning them team may so again, man, that's the

3125
02:57:14,440 --> 02:57:17,320
Speaker 1: young lady and she just kind of spoke about it,

3126
02:57:17,840 --> 02:57:21,039
Speaker 1: said there was a sexual affect between the two. Again,

3127
02:57:21,160 --> 02:57:24,160
Speaker 1: his business model is kind of the same business model

3128
02:57:24,280 --> 02:57:29,640
Speaker 1: that Fresh and Fit has with a they tend to grab,

3129
02:57:30,120 --> 02:57:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, certain topics and monetized, monetized because they speak

3130
02:57:37,800 --> 02:57:40,480
Speaker 1: about black women and how maybe they approached something or

3131
02:57:40,520 --> 02:57:42,920
Speaker 1: some of the mistakes of black people and things like that.

3132
02:57:43,080 --> 02:57:45,880
Speaker 1: And so with him being on the show, I would

3133
02:57:45,920 --> 02:57:48,880
Speaker 1: have been surprised if nothing like that happened. And in

3134
02:57:49,040 --> 02:57:51,160
Speaker 1: doing research, I think he's been on there a couple

3135
02:57:51,240 --> 02:57:53,560
Speaker 1: of times and you haven't heard about it because nothing

3136
02:57:53,600 --> 02:57:57,920
Speaker 1: like that happened. But so recipe for disaster in that

3137
02:57:58,160 --> 02:58:02,200
Speaker 1: environment ten women, fifteen him and some over cocky guys

3138
02:58:02,360 --> 02:58:05,200
Speaker 1: that's trying to be like shut it down and shut

3139
02:58:05,240 --> 02:58:07,520
Speaker 1: it up and don't you say a word when you

3140
02:58:07,640 --> 02:58:10,959
Speaker 1: hear me talking. It's like, that's the recipe for a disaster.

3141
02:58:11,040 --> 02:58:13,120
Speaker 1: At some point, it's gonna they're gonna bite off more

3142
02:58:13,160 --> 02:58:15,560
Speaker 1: than they can chew. I don't know, it's not gonna

3143
02:58:15,600 --> 02:58:18,520
Speaker 1: always be just a blow up that way. It's not

3144
02:58:18,640 --> 02:58:21,600
Speaker 1: gonna always happen that way. Somebody's gonna do something that's

3145
02:58:22,640 --> 02:58:26,240
Speaker 1: a little bit more devastating, and I just think they

3146
02:58:26,280 --> 02:58:29,280
Speaker 1: should change the business model, especially like that being a

3147
02:58:29,400 --> 02:58:34,920
Speaker 1: meeting spot. People's mothers are being disrespected there, people's wives

3148
02:58:34,959 --> 02:58:36,760
Speaker 1: are being talked to any kind of way, and I

3149
02:58:36,879 --> 02:58:38,960
Speaker 1: know you people are gonna say what they don't have

3150
02:58:39,000 --> 02:58:41,440
Speaker 1: to come to the show. That's beside the point that

3151
02:58:41,640 --> 02:58:44,119
Speaker 1: milk's already spilled. They're at the show. Non we gotta

3152
02:58:44,160 --> 02:58:46,960
Speaker 1: deal with how you treated them, right, So people are

3153
02:58:47,000 --> 02:58:50,800
Speaker 1: being disrespected in that they're leaving with these encounters where

3154
02:58:50,800 --> 02:58:54,240
Speaker 1: they've had encounters with me and what things got slippery

3155
02:58:55,840 --> 02:58:59,360
Speaker 1: and so you don't know what enemies you're you're you're creating.

3156
02:58:59,560 --> 02:59:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure in some kind of building where they think

3157
02:59:01,800 --> 02:59:04,400
Speaker 1: security can stop people from getting up there and things

3158
02:59:04,480 --> 02:59:08,000
Speaker 1: like that. But I gotta be careful when you create

3159
02:59:08,080 --> 02:59:12,160
Speaker 1: those kind of toxic environments because only so long you

3160
02:59:12,280 --> 02:59:16,040
Speaker 1: can really really control them if you're not in control

3161
02:59:16,120 --> 02:59:17,960
Speaker 1: of them like you think you are. For those of

3162
02:59:18,000 --> 02:59:21,440
Speaker 1: you underwear, Kanye West is about to release Donta two

3163
02:59:21,640 --> 02:59:24,360
Speaker 1: very soon. He's made an announcement that it would not

3164
02:59:24,520 --> 02:59:29,040
Speaker 1: be available on streaming platforms. This is a very very

3165
02:59:29,160 --> 02:59:31,880
Speaker 1: big deal. I think the culture didn't stop in the

3166
02:59:31,959 --> 02:59:35,760
Speaker 1: way that I thought it should have to acknowledge ar

3167
02:59:35,760 --> 02:59:39,840
Speaker 1: wrench me and throne in the system. Right. First, I

3168
02:59:39,959 --> 02:59:42,560
Speaker 1: want to say something to the young creators and the

3169
02:59:42,640 --> 02:59:46,320
Speaker 1: little creators out there, right, because oftentimes we get caught

3170
02:59:46,360 --> 02:59:48,959
Speaker 1: in our ecosystem, right, we get caught in our little

3171
02:59:49,040 --> 02:59:53,680
Speaker 1: echo chambers, and we tend to think that we tend

3172
02:59:53,760 --> 02:59:58,320
Speaker 1: to get position confused. Right. So I don't big up

3173
02:59:58,400 --> 03:00:01,280
Speaker 1: Kanye in this moment to be little in the creator

3174
03:00:01,400 --> 03:00:05,480
Speaker 1: that did this out of necessity, and I hate to

3175
03:00:05,560 --> 03:00:08,040
Speaker 1: see us do this in fighting when a message come

3176
03:00:08,080 --> 03:00:12,640
Speaker 1: out with such velocity that means so much to the infrastructure, right,

3177
03:00:12,760 --> 03:00:16,680
Speaker 1: But young creators, little creators, the people that's not on

3178
03:00:16,840 --> 03:00:19,640
Speaker 1: that pedal store on that level tending to say, Yo, man,

3179
03:00:20,200 --> 03:00:22,600
Speaker 1: they big enough, Kanye. But I was selling mine like

3180
03:00:22,760 --> 03:00:26,120
Speaker 1: that forever I've been doing that. I've been going the route.

3181
03:00:26,160 --> 03:00:28,560
Speaker 1: Why I see it directly to my people without going

3182
03:00:28,640 --> 03:00:30,680
Speaker 1: to the stream in sights and I big them up.

3183
03:00:30,760 --> 03:00:34,400
Speaker 1: We definitely salute y'all. I think it's the same action

3184
03:00:34,560 --> 03:00:39,200
Speaker 1: being took, but it's definitely from a different standpoint. When

3185
03:00:39,240 --> 03:00:42,120
Speaker 1: one of the most decorated artists in the game were

3186
03:00:42,200 --> 03:00:45,320
Speaker 1: one of the most successful artists in the game with

3187
03:00:45,480 --> 03:00:48,920
Speaker 1: the poor the exposure to influence that Kanye Wes has

3188
03:00:49,480 --> 03:00:52,600
Speaker 1: with active deals on the table to walk away from

3189
03:00:52,640 --> 03:00:56,959
Speaker 1: those and Branger Hen in the Chicken House, I think

3190
03:00:57,000 --> 03:01:02,160
Speaker 1: it's said pressing it when you deal with the streaming companies,

3191
03:01:02,200 --> 03:01:04,640
Speaker 1: I always you hear me talk about it, you hear

3192
03:01:04,720 --> 03:01:07,880
Speaker 1: other podcasters talk about it, you hear other content houses

3193
03:01:07,920 --> 03:01:11,040
Speaker 1: and people talk about it. We don't know what a

3194
03:01:11,120 --> 03:01:15,240
Speaker 1: stream is worth, and unfortunate for us on this side,

3195
03:01:15,320 --> 03:01:17,280
Speaker 1: they won't let us know what a stream is worth.

3196
03:01:18,680 --> 03:01:20,800
Speaker 1: If we had the labels on our side, we would

3197
03:01:20,840 --> 03:01:23,520
Speaker 1: get a glimpse into that. But unfortunately for us, the

3198
03:01:23,680 --> 03:01:27,600
Speaker 1: labels have told Spotify, let us in or we'll fight

3199
03:01:27,680 --> 03:01:31,640
Speaker 1: on behalf for them. So the labels and I don't

3200
03:01:31,680 --> 03:01:36,040
Speaker 1: want to point out Spotify because again I'm an active

3201
03:01:36,120 --> 03:01:40,920
Speaker 1: guy in the in the space that's looking to brand bill.

3202
03:01:41,040 --> 03:01:43,480
Speaker 1: So we don't want to single anyone now, but we

3203
03:01:43,640 --> 03:01:46,520
Speaker 1: definitely want to examine the information and be critical of

3204
03:01:46,600 --> 03:01:51,120
Speaker 1: the ones that's pointing out things that's inconsistent with what

3205
03:01:51,240 --> 03:01:55,080
Speaker 1: it is that we view. Right, So all streaming platforms,

3206
03:01:55,160 --> 03:01:59,959
Speaker 1: let's talk from a general standpoint. The big streaming platform,

3207
03:02:00,240 --> 03:02:02,040
Speaker 1: the labels when it made a deal with them to

3208
03:02:02,160 --> 03:02:06,800
Speaker 1: where they not only got stock, they got equity in

3209
03:02:06,879 --> 03:02:11,960
Speaker 1: those companies for license to music that they don't make.

3210
03:02:12,840 --> 03:02:17,080
Speaker 1: I understand and respect business, and I respect it. I

3211
03:02:17,240 --> 03:02:20,240
Speaker 1: respect business from a standpoint that very few people do.

3212
03:02:21,000 --> 03:02:25,279
Speaker 1: But I also understand that if, if, if we're transparent

3213
03:02:25,400 --> 03:02:28,320
Speaker 1: with the information, we can then know what a fat

3214
03:02:28,400 --> 03:02:32,040
Speaker 1: deals because at this point, y'all just looking at some

3215
03:02:32,120 --> 03:02:35,400
Speaker 1: stuff and saying this is worth about twenty million, and

3216
03:02:35,480 --> 03:02:37,160
Speaker 1: we're like, all right, so what y'all doing with the

3217
03:02:37,240 --> 03:02:40,279
Speaker 1: information and no one sharing that information. So for Kanye

3218
03:02:40,879 --> 03:02:44,879
Speaker 1: to you gotta remember reported Lee, there's one hundred million

3219
03:02:44,959 --> 03:02:47,320
Speaker 1: dollar deal on the table from Apple that he walks

3220
03:02:47,360 --> 03:02:51,000
Speaker 1: away from. Not only do do we walk away from it,

3221
03:02:51,120 --> 03:02:57,200
Speaker 1: they stopped funding all of these concerts that you see

3222
03:02:57,200 --> 03:02:59,840
Speaker 1: at these stadiums. There's been a lot of concerts that

3223
03:03:00,040 --> 03:03:02,480
Speaker 1: stadiums with Kanye West where he's been able to sell

3224
03:03:02,560 --> 03:03:05,800
Speaker 1: stadiums out. But you gotta really understand what it takes

3225
03:03:05,840 --> 03:03:09,520
Speaker 1: to put that show on. You gotta understand what it takes,

3226
03:03:09,600 --> 03:03:13,080
Speaker 1: not only from an organization standpoint, meaning how many cars

3227
03:03:13,160 --> 03:03:15,120
Speaker 1: we need, how many seats, how do we need to

3228
03:03:15,400 --> 03:03:17,320
Speaker 1: we need to cut the back out where is everybody's

3229
03:03:17,320 --> 03:03:20,120
Speaker 1: sitting because he's not going conventional or traditional with his

3230
03:03:20,240 --> 03:03:25,320
Speaker 1: approach to a set, design, to his probably his entrance anything.

3231
03:03:25,480 --> 03:03:27,680
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of work that has to go

3232
03:03:27,840 --> 03:03:31,240
Speaker 1: into that, and Apple or whoever he pardners which usually

3233
03:03:31,360 --> 03:03:35,720
Speaker 1: fits the bill, when he throws a monkey wrench into

3234
03:03:35,840 --> 03:03:39,160
Speaker 1: their system, they have to pull out. It's not personal,

3235
03:03:39,240 --> 03:03:41,840
Speaker 1: it's business. Oh so now you're a competitor. We gotta

3236
03:03:41,920 --> 03:03:44,640
Speaker 1: view you like Spotify, we gotta view you like some

3237
03:03:44,760 --> 03:03:46,840
Speaker 1: of these other companies when you say, hey, yo, my

3238
03:03:47,320 --> 03:03:52,560
Speaker 1: music won't be available there, right, But the power attached

3239
03:03:52,600 --> 03:03:57,200
Speaker 1: tour because the relationship is just a relationship and it's

3240
03:03:57,240 --> 03:04:02,240
Speaker 1: not being spoken to. No one of any significant power

3241
03:04:03,640 --> 03:04:05,960
Speaker 1: has made the decision to say, hey, I want to

3242
03:04:06,040 --> 03:04:08,360
Speaker 1: know what a stream is worth. I really want to

3243
03:04:08,400 --> 03:04:10,200
Speaker 1: know what y'all getting from there. I want to know

3244
03:04:10,320 --> 03:04:13,320
Speaker 1: what that looks like from y'all perspective, not only from

3245
03:04:14,040 --> 03:04:18,200
Speaker 1: the artist's perspective. And that's the difference between Kanye doing

3246
03:04:18,280 --> 03:04:21,280
Speaker 1: it and the homeboard doing it. They're selling Even if

3247
03:04:21,320 --> 03:04:23,879
Speaker 1: he's selling five thousand in that way, that's cool. That's

3248
03:04:23,920 --> 03:04:26,280
Speaker 1: a good number. And I'm sure you're living pretty good

3249
03:04:26,360 --> 03:04:30,480
Speaker 1: all of that. But you gotta know every deal that's

3250
03:04:30,560 --> 03:04:35,560
Speaker 1: available for a musician, Kanye is privy to it for

3251
03:04:35,720 --> 03:04:38,640
Speaker 1: him to walk away from that security, walk away from

3252
03:04:38,720 --> 03:04:44,160
Speaker 1: all of that to help try to build an industry

3253
03:04:44,320 --> 03:04:48,120
Speaker 1: or more fair relationship for everybody that falls under that

3254
03:04:48,600 --> 03:04:50,200
Speaker 1: for me as a hell of a thing. On the

3255
03:04:50,280 --> 03:04:53,600
Speaker 1: other side, you see him give push at his masters

3256
03:04:53,640 --> 03:04:56,720
Speaker 1: and writes back to his stuff and his back catalog,

3257
03:04:58,600 --> 03:05:02,720
Speaker 1: his back catalog. Unfortunate for Kanye's being caught up and

3258
03:05:02,840 --> 03:05:04,880
Speaker 1: saying a lot of different things as well. At the

3259
03:05:04,959 --> 03:05:10,240
Speaker 1: same time, he's being viewed and being painted away based

3260
03:05:10,280 --> 03:05:13,480
Speaker 1: off what he's being said. Let's be clear now, they

3261
03:05:13,520 --> 03:05:16,120
Speaker 1: ain't making nothing of but putting the words in his mouth,

3262
03:05:16,959 --> 03:05:19,560
Speaker 1: but they ignoring some of the good things that he says.

3263
03:05:20,120 --> 03:05:22,760
Speaker 1: That's the problem. When you say a lot of different things,

3264
03:05:22,879 --> 03:05:25,800
Speaker 1: when you talk a lot, it gives people the ability

3265
03:05:25,879 --> 03:05:28,119
Speaker 1: to pick through what it is you say and pick

3266
03:05:28,200 --> 03:05:31,360
Speaker 1: and choose what it is they want to hold you

3267
03:05:31,440 --> 03:05:34,440
Speaker 1: accountable for. Right, So we didn't hear none of the

3268
03:05:34,520 --> 03:05:36,480
Speaker 1: good stuff or none of that good shit you're doing,

3269
03:05:36,560 --> 03:05:38,360
Speaker 1: But all that bad shit we want to talk to

3270
03:05:38,480 --> 03:05:41,760
Speaker 1: you about it. You know, and so I see that happening.

3271
03:05:42,840 --> 03:05:47,480
Speaker 1: I think it's very I think it's a very powerful

3272
03:05:47,560 --> 03:05:50,119
Speaker 1: move if he sticks to it. I don't see him

3273
03:05:50,120 --> 03:05:53,400
Speaker 1: sticking to it, though. What I see him doing is

3274
03:05:53,480 --> 03:05:58,040
Speaker 1: maybe an exclusivity thing, maybe six weeks, eight weeks on

3275
03:05:58,200 --> 03:06:00,480
Speaker 1: the plan, and then he'll roll it out with some

3276
03:06:00,640 --> 03:06:03,480
Speaker 1: kind of deluxe with some more music to dry the traffic.

3277
03:06:03,560 --> 03:06:06,960
Speaker 1: I just don't see him with him because I take

3278
03:06:07,080 --> 03:06:09,280
Speaker 1: Kanye's being the kind of dude that want to hear

3279
03:06:09,640 --> 03:06:12,720
Speaker 1: people say, yoh, this is doping. I like this music,

3280
03:06:12,760 --> 03:06:15,120
Speaker 1: and this is the ship and that beat? How you

3281
03:06:15,280 --> 03:06:17,560
Speaker 1: did that? I think he makes his music to be

3282
03:06:17,760 --> 03:06:21,200
Speaker 1: consumed by the masses. You know, at some point he

3283
03:06:21,360 --> 03:06:24,240
Speaker 1: changed to start making stadium type music because he wanted

3284
03:06:24,280 --> 03:06:26,800
Speaker 1: to cater to coming out to twenty thousand people and

3285
03:06:26,959 --> 03:06:30,520
Speaker 1: things like that. So with an ego like musicians and

3286
03:06:30,760 --> 03:06:34,280
Speaker 1: artists and creators usually have specially ones that create things

3287
03:06:34,360 --> 03:06:38,160
Speaker 1: like music and clothes and things for other masses to consume.

3288
03:06:41,560 --> 03:06:44,720
Speaker 1: I just think he takes part of what makes you know,

3289
03:06:44,879 --> 03:06:47,280
Speaker 1: part of what keeps him ticking. He takes that away

3290
03:06:47,360 --> 03:06:52,080
Speaker 1: from him as well, because the masses consume music. Unfortunately,

3291
03:06:52,280 --> 03:06:57,040
Speaker 1: from these platforms. He's gonna convert some people, but I

3292
03:06:57,160 --> 03:06:59,560
Speaker 1: think I just don't see him sticking with a long term.

3293
03:06:59,680 --> 03:07:02,440
Speaker 1: I think he'll roll it out on those platforms after

3294
03:07:03,320 --> 03:07:05,920
Speaker 1: he gives those people that spent the two hundreds some

3295
03:07:06,040 --> 03:07:12,720
Speaker 1: sort of exclusivity for doing so. But again, we don't

3296
03:07:12,800 --> 03:07:17,360
Speaker 1: we don't beg Kanye up to take from any young creator.

3297
03:07:18,040 --> 03:07:19,840
Speaker 1: But it's a lot of people doing a lot of

3298
03:07:19,920 --> 03:07:24,520
Speaker 1: back flips off of houses and back flips on mattress

3299
03:07:24,600 --> 03:07:27,840
Speaker 1: and trampolines in the neighborhood, and they they, hey, they're

3300
03:07:27,840 --> 03:07:30,240
Speaker 1: doing a good job. But if it ain't in the Olympics,

3301
03:07:30,280 --> 03:07:34,120
Speaker 1: and if you don't get a gold medal for it,

3302
03:07:34,600 --> 03:07:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure to gravity attached to it right in

3303
03:07:37,320 --> 03:07:39,880
Speaker 1: regards to the structure setting that they have in place,

3304
03:07:40,000 --> 03:07:42,680
Speaker 1: unless you create your own structure setting. When we deal

3305
03:07:42,720 --> 03:07:45,760
Speaker 1: with someone like Kanye, you gotta understand again, I gotta

3306
03:07:46,240 --> 03:07:49,280
Speaker 1: stress this for the youngsters, right, you gotta understand what

3307
03:07:49,440 --> 03:07:54,440
Speaker 1: that does. Right, When Kanye does something like that, it

3308
03:07:54,600 --> 03:07:59,840
Speaker 1: adds to the algorithm. It adds to the algorithm. And

3309
03:08:00,480 --> 03:08:02,560
Speaker 1: the young nigga that is doing it in his basement

3310
03:08:02,680 --> 03:08:04,840
Speaker 1: or the young nigga that is selling five ten thousand.

3311
03:08:04,920 --> 03:08:07,480
Speaker 1: That is trunk. We salute your hustle and you gotta

3312
03:08:07,520 --> 03:08:09,840
Speaker 1: creative mind. You gotta find a way to tap into

3313
03:08:09,959 --> 03:08:14,040
Speaker 1: what the algorithm. But what Kanye is doing, he has

3314
03:08:14,120 --> 03:08:17,120
Speaker 1: the ability to change the algorithm. This is how you

3315
03:08:17,240 --> 03:08:20,560
Speaker 1: know what level you are. Some people what they reach,

3316
03:08:20,640 --> 03:08:23,680
Speaker 1: they got the ability to tap into the algorithm. Other

3317
03:08:23,760 --> 03:08:26,400
Speaker 1: people what they reach, they got the ability to change

3318
03:08:26,480 --> 03:08:30,000
Speaker 1: the algorithm. When Kanye do it, he's able to change

3319
03:08:30,080 --> 03:08:33,680
Speaker 1: the algorithm. He he's able to create the benchmarks in

3320
03:08:33,800 --> 03:08:38,960
Speaker 1: which the industry negotiates from. Right, So musicians after him

3321
03:08:39,120 --> 03:08:41,920
Speaker 1: is able to create contracts based on some of the

3322
03:08:42,040 --> 03:08:46,120
Speaker 1: things he's able to do or create more revenue. Right.

3323
03:08:46,240 --> 03:08:50,800
Speaker 1: So I just think we gotta understand position. And if

3324
03:08:50,879 --> 03:08:53,080
Speaker 1: you did do it, man, don't feel no way. Just

3325
03:08:53,280 --> 03:08:56,640
Speaker 1: understand like it's different. You didn't really walk away from

3326
03:08:56,640 --> 03:09:01,000
Speaker 1: a hunting men. You probably you didn't, because I know you.

3327
03:09:02,160 --> 03:09:04,199
Speaker 1: You feel men, you didn't walk away from a honey

3328
03:09:04,240 --> 03:09:06,440
Speaker 1: million to do it. And that ain't taking away from

3329
03:09:06,520 --> 03:09:09,240
Speaker 1: you what you've done. It's just putting it in perspective.

3330
03:09:10,280 --> 03:09:13,000
Speaker 1: Some people got the ability to tap into the algorithm.

3331
03:09:13,120 --> 03:09:16,160
Speaker 1: Others got the ability to change the algorithm. Knowing what

3332
03:09:16,360 --> 03:09:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm doing in podcasting is to change the algorithm. I

3333
03:09:20,240 --> 03:09:22,440
Speaker 1: want to salute it about it, this pardon to tap

3334
03:09:22,520 --> 03:09:26,440
Speaker 1: into the algorithm, this copying people format that's going to

3335
03:09:26,560 --> 03:09:29,680
Speaker 1: interview to duel right after he left the other podcasts,

3336
03:09:29,720 --> 03:09:32,360
Speaker 1: I salute y'all. I get y'all one of them, but

3337
03:09:32,560 --> 03:09:35,960
Speaker 1: long on the other side, that's creating the conversations. You

3338
03:09:36,040 --> 03:09:39,800
Speaker 1: don't got to salute me. You don't got to salute me. Right,

3339
03:09:40,800 --> 03:09:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm taking the private over here and I get off

3340
03:09:43,320 --> 03:09:46,560
Speaker 1: the plane with the little dog, you understand, So you

3341
03:09:46,640 --> 03:09:49,160
Speaker 1: don't got to salute me. We're doing well, and we

3342
03:09:49,320 --> 03:09:52,080
Speaker 1: know the game is worldwide. What we do, we're getting

3343
03:09:52,120 --> 03:09:54,880
Speaker 1: people tapping in from all around the world, So you

3344
03:09:54,959 --> 03:09:57,640
Speaker 1: don't got to salute me. It's unnecessary to co sign

3345
03:09:57,760 --> 03:10:01,960
Speaker 1: somebody with good credit, you feel me. But what they

3346
03:10:02,080 --> 03:10:06,680
Speaker 1: have to worry about is people starting the team up, right,

3347
03:10:07,080 --> 03:10:09,800
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm hoping to brain to the game

3348
03:10:10,000 --> 03:10:12,600
Speaker 1: is I see a world where we team up and

3349
03:10:12,680 --> 03:10:17,520
Speaker 1: were gone tour. You understand me, And we're really gone

3350
03:10:17,640 --> 03:10:20,240
Speaker 1: to a not that little bullshit that y'all calling to

3351
03:10:20,360 --> 03:10:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling about. We're really gone tour and we provide

3352
03:10:23,800 --> 03:10:27,360
Speaker 1: podcasting and music and comedy and all that on one tour,

3353
03:10:29,040 --> 03:10:34,960
Speaker 1: and it's eyes see, they scared the door. Number one.

3354
03:10:35,000 --> 03:10:39,480
Speaker 1: They don't want to share the audience. I keep telling people, man.

3355
03:10:39,600 --> 03:10:43,480
Speaker 1: I stressed this to people, man because and the reason

3356
03:10:43,600 --> 03:10:46,640
Speaker 1: I notice is because I'm dealing with I'm dealing with

3357
03:10:46,800 --> 03:10:50,600
Speaker 1: the results. These people don't like to share the audience.

3358
03:10:52,080 --> 03:10:56,320
Speaker 1: The audience is something that number one is hard to get.

3359
03:10:57,320 --> 03:10:59,520
Speaker 1: But again, the reason they don't want to share the

3360
03:10:59,560 --> 03:11:01,720
Speaker 1: audience is because they don't know why the audience is

3361
03:11:01,800 --> 03:11:05,520
Speaker 1: really even in tune with them. So if they don't

3362
03:11:05,959 --> 03:11:08,200
Speaker 1: really they don't know how to keep it. They got it,

3363
03:11:08,320 --> 03:11:10,200
Speaker 1: but they don't know how to keep it, and they

3364
03:11:10,240 --> 03:11:13,080
Speaker 1: don't know what makes it leave outside of castling somebody.

3365
03:11:13,160 --> 03:11:16,920
Speaker 1: They don't know what keeps my audience right. And what

3366
03:11:17,080 --> 03:11:18,920
Speaker 1: they tend to think is and I know it not

3367
03:11:19,040 --> 03:11:22,320
Speaker 1: to be true, but again I need to charge consultation feed.

3368
03:11:22,760 --> 03:11:25,320
Speaker 1: But what they think is that the interviewing of other

3369
03:11:25,440 --> 03:11:33,560
Speaker 1: celebrities keep keep their brand visibility in a good place.

3370
03:11:33,640 --> 03:11:37,360
Speaker 1: And it does. That's an old traditional approach to it,

3371
03:11:37,440 --> 03:11:39,200
Speaker 1: But there's another way to do a matter of fact,

3372
03:11:39,280 --> 03:11:43,160
Speaker 1: there's several other ways to do it. And as I

3373
03:11:43,480 --> 03:11:46,000
Speaker 1: get further up in this game, I'm starting to understand

3374
03:11:46,080 --> 03:11:48,480
Speaker 1: that the knowledge that I have and the information I have,

3375
03:11:49,280 --> 03:11:52,040
Speaker 1: they don't even know. Really, people don't know how to

3376
03:11:52,120 --> 03:11:54,960
Speaker 1: navigate this game. It's a new space. I have a

3377
03:11:55,080 --> 03:11:58,640
Speaker 1: million dollars in. Dudes talk about ten thousand. I got

3378
03:11:58,720 --> 03:12:04,480
Speaker 1: a million in, you see, and it just makes me

3379
03:12:04,640 --> 03:12:07,240
Speaker 1: view it different. The only critique I have, and this

3380
03:12:07,480 --> 03:12:12,440
Speaker 1: isn't about Kanye, This is about do we know when

3381
03:12:12,560 --> 03:12:16,800
Speaker 1: the pass in our game and our coature? Do we

3382
03:12:17,040 --> 03:12:20,200
Speaker 1: know when to make the call for the youngster? Do

3383
03:12:20,360 --> 03:12:22,240
Speaker 1: we know when to just make the call for the

3384
03:12:22,360 --> 03:12:25,560
Speaker 1: podcast of Yo to do fire? You call, We'll get

3385
03:12:25,640 --> 03:12:29,240
Speaker 1: him on the line like fast track that Do we

3386
03:12:29,400 --> 03:12:31,760
Speaker 1: know when the ayo I made enough off push of

3387
03:12:31,840 --> 03:12:34,760
Speaker 1: tease catalog? Give him his ship back his heels. And

3388
03:12:34,959 --> 03:12:37,080
Speaker 1: that's my guy? Why did I have it this long?

3389
03:12:38,200 --> 03:12:42,520
Speaker 1: The benchmark I hope is in nine billion dollars because

3390
03:12:43,879 --> 03:12:47,720
Speaker 1: if it's that, if it's a billion or more, only

3391
03:12:47,760 --> 03:12:49,720
Speaker 1: a certain amount of people gonna make it that far,

3392
03:12:49,800 --> 03:12:51,560
Speaker 1: and that means we still gonna have a lot of

3393
03:12:51,640 --> 03:12:55,640
Speaker 1: infighting and for us to be able to really, really

3394
03:12:55,840 --> 03:12:59,720
Speaker 1: speak ownership to each other in black excellency, because in

3395
03:13:00,080 --> 03:13:04,039
Speaker 1: out of Black culture man, and again, I can only

3396
03:13:04,120 --> 03:13:06,720
Speaker 1: speak of my of my experience. I was just speaking

3397
03:13:06,760 --> 03:13:11,160
Speaker 1: to my lawyer about this. I've been pleasantly surprised right

3398
03:13:11,760 --> 03:13:17,760
Speaker 1: on the way I've been embraced, but the reality too, though.

3399
03:13:17,800 --> 03:13:19,920
Speaker 1: We gotta make sure that we figure out a way

3400
03:13:20,120 --> 03:13:24,440
Speaker 1: how to support each other. But I actually came in

3401
03:13:24,560 --> 03:13:27,000
Speaker 1: this game thinking, Yo, they ain't gonna embrace you. So

3402
03:13:27,160 --> 03:13:30,680
Speaker 1: I come, I come with information on everything and everything,

3403
03:13:30,800 --> 03:13:33,119
Speaker 1: and I come to if they play let's go, I'm

3404
03:13:33,160 --> 03:13:36,400
Speaker 1: ready war and wartime. I gotta be loud about it.

3405
03:13:36,440 --> 03:13:38,680
Speaker 1: They ain't gonna let us in, so let's and as

3406
03:13:38,760 --> 03:13:43,440
Speaker 1: I've been coming in, they've been able to see something

3407
03:13:43,520 --> 03:13:47,240
Speaker 1: in what I'm doing and like co signing and fast

3408
03:13:47,320 --> 03:13:49,520
Speaker 1: tracking and get him over here, get him with this brand,

3409
03:13:49,600 --> 03:13:51,840
Speaker 1: get him next to these people, get him and it's

3410
03:13:51,920 --> 03:13:58,040
Speaker 1: like I'm so I mean, it's a pleasant surprise. But

3411
03:13:58,240 --> 03:14:02,960
Speaker 1: there is a sub sex in of this culture. Well

3412
03:14:03,000 --> 03:14:06,520
Speaker 1: that's a lot of pump faking. There's a lot of

3413
03:14:06,600 --> 03:14:09,280
Speaker 1: acting like we're gonna get the business done, act like

3414
03:14:09,400 --> 03:14:13,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna shoot and make it happen, right, when really

3415
03:14:13,240 --> 03:14:15,960
Speaker 1: they still they're really trying to create a shot for them,

3416
03:14:17,000 --> 03:14:21,879
Speaker 1: And ain't nothing wrong with that. I always find offensive,

3417
03:14:22,000 --> 03:14:24,680
Speaker 1: Like it's almost like a dude when he having six

3418
03:14:24,760 --> 03:14:27,640
Speaker 1: with a girl, he'll promise a woman anything, you know.

3419
03:14:27,800 --> 03:14:29,800
Speaker 1: Some of these guys are getting your face and they're

3420
03:14:29,879 --> 03:14:32,600
Speaker 1: promise you anything. Man. Man, what we're gonna do is

3421
03:14:32,879 --> 03:14:35,440
Speaker 1: That's why I salute the ones that really build with you,

3422
03:14:36,080 --> 03:14:38,400
Speaker 1: that really get that done, because some people are just

3423
03:14:38,760 --> 03:14:40,800
Speaker 1: in the heat of the moment, these industry dudes to

3424
03:14:40,879 --> 03:14:43,280
Speaker 1: say anything. Man, I'm gonna help you make sitting to

3425
03:14:43,320 --> 03:14:44,960
Speaker 1: five million dollars. May ain't no way in the world.

3426
03:14:44,959 --> 03:14:46,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go without making Sitting to five

3427
03:14:46,800 --> 03:14:49,080
Speaker 1: meeting at least next year you'd be looking like that

3428
03:14:49,280 --> 03:14:51,640
Speaker 1: this dude got a podcast and they ain't made nothing.

3429
03:14:54,920 --> 03:14:57,119
Speaker 1: All your money come from somewhere else, But you're gonna

3430
03:14:57,120 --> 03:15:00,880
Speaker 1: make my podcast sitting to me, I need to talk

3431
03:15:00,920 --> 03:15:03,240
Speaker 1: to the ones this cashing checks in this game, and

3432
03:15:03,400 --> 03:15:05,600
Speaker 1: I got their numbers and I know how they're doing it,

3433
03:15:06,160 --> 03:15:08,200
Speaker 1: and they're helping me out through it, and I got

3434
03:15:08,240 --> 03:15:10,720
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for them. But we got moments

3435
03:15:10,760 --> 03:15:14,360
Speaker 1: to create and we can't wait to create them. And

3436
03:15:14,480 --> 03:15:17,200
Speaker 1: that's what's more important is that y'all got to understand

3437
03:15:17,240 --> 03:15:20,920
Speaker 1: that loan is information. I'm in my huddle, I got

3438
03:15:21,000 --> 03:15:23,200
Speaker 1: my whole game playing together. I'm ready to sit down

3439
03:15:23,320 --> 03:15:26,800
Speaker 1: with the who's whos and get to what's what you

3440
03:15:26,920 --> 03:15:28,560
Speaker 1: know and the way we're gonna be able to do it.

3441
03:15:28,680 --> 03:15:33,240
Speaker 1: I think um sending shocked through the coach and we'll

3442
03:15:33,280 --> 03:15:36,120
Speaker 1: be able to sustain in the market at a high level.

3443
03:15:36,320 --> 03:15:39,880
Speaker 1: If not number one, we're coming for number one, you know.

3444
03:15:40,040 --> 03:15:43,480
Speaker 1: So we'll figure it out and hopefully the brothers in

3445
03:15:43,600 --> 03:15:45,600
Speaker 1: the game, we all get to sit down and chop

3446
03:15:45,680 --> 03:15:50,480
Speaker 1: it up one on one and talk about life, education,

3447
03:15:51,040 --> 03:15:56,120
Speaker 1: the environment. You understand some of our encounters, our mistakes.

3448
03:15:57,400 --> 03:16:01,680
Speaker 1: You know where we come from, business, hardcast and rappers,

3449
03:16:02,760 --> 03:16:07,360
Speaker 1: game coachure, our culture, you know, some of the many things,

3450
03:16:07,520 --> 03:16:11,320
Speaker 1: sports things. We got to talk about, contracts, contract disputes.

3451
03:16:11,320 --> 03:16:14,800
Speaker 1: It's a lot of things. And this colchure that's happened, man,

3452
03:16:14,840 --> 03:16:16,480
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You don't have to go sit

3453
03:16:16,640 --> 03:16:19,920
Speaker 1: with the same rappers that they everybody sitting with. Take

3454
03:16:20,040 --> 03:16:22,000
Speaker 1: that from me. The ones that's out there that's trying

3455
03:16:22,040 --> 03:16:26,520
Speaker 1: to create some learn how to interview people, learn how

3456
03:16:26,560 --> 03:16:32,320
Speaker 1: to sustain you will bi. Let's talk about this Godfrey

3457
03:16:33,200 --> 03:16:36,280
Speaker 1: and Ti. There's a situation with Godfrey and Ti. Ti

3458
03:16:36,400 --> 03:16:38,920
Speaker 1: has been running around doing comedy. For those of you

3459
03:16:39,080 --> 03:16:43,400
Speaker 1: that don't know. Again, this space, this creative machine that

3460
03:16:43,720 --> 03:16:47,720
Speaker 1: everybody else likes to call their brain. It can take

3461
03:16:47,800 --> 03:16:50,200
Speaker 1: you down different avenues. For Tip, he's done a lot

3462
03:16:50,240 --> 03:16:53,080
Speaker 1: of different things. Now he's trying out comedy. So with

3463
03:16:53,320 --> 03:16:55,720
Speaker 1: him having the level of fame he has, he's able

3464
03:16:55,760 --> 03:16:59,360
Speaker 1: to skip the line. He's having notoriety at the end

3465
03:16:59,440 --> 03:17:01,600
Speaker 1: of the day, and this is what they're saying, he's

3466
03:17:01,640 --> 03:17:04,320
Speaker 1: breaking in And when I listened, because again, I got

3467
03:17:04,400 --> 03:17:06,959
Speaker 1: a million dollars in in this industry, and this industry

3468
03:17:07,080 --> 03:17:09,400
Speaker 1: was built by comics, so by default I've had to

3469
03:17:09,440 --> 03:17:13,040
Speaker 1: study the comics that built the industry. So me doing that,

3470
03:17:13,240 --> 03:17:17,879
Speaker 1: I know that comics really, really, really can be million

3471
03:17:17,959 --> 03:17:20,080
Speaker 1: dollars dudes and go to the comedy store and get

3472
03:17:20,120 --> 03:17:23,560
Speaker 1: paid fifteen dollars for they set tonight. So they have

3473
03:17:23,720 --> 03:17:26,880
Speaker 1: a very grass roots approach right to the way that

3474
03:17:27,000 --> 03:17:31,640
Speaker 1: they do comedy. But with Tip, Tip is able to

3475
03:17:31,720 --> 03:17:34,480
Speaker 1: play the celebrity card, so he's able to get past that,

3476
03:17:34,520 --> 03:17:37,160
Speaker 1: and then we talk about people like Rogan, We talk

3477
03:17:37,200 --> 03:17:39,560
Speaker 1: about people like Dave Chappelle that to go to the

3478
03:17:39,680 --> 03:17:42,840
Speaker 1: comedy store and they're give him eight dollars at the end.

3479
03:17:43,040 --> 03:17:45,080
Speaker 1: He might not take it. He may just say keep it,

3480
03:17:45,200 --> 03:17:50,879
Speaker 1: but the same rules apply. What happens is is Tip

3481
03:17:51,000 --> 03:17:54,000
Speaker 1: is able to play the celebrity card in He's able

3482
03:17:54,040 --> 03:17:56,280
Speaker 1: to fast track some of that process and not go

3483
03:17:56,480 --> 03:17:59,720
Speaker 1: through that grass roots approach. And for some comics that

3484
03:18:00,040 --> 03:18:03,080
Speaker 1: comes disrespectful. It's a unique thing because I have a

3485
03:18:03,160 --> 03:18:05,480
Speaker 1: lot of respect for comedians and in the in the

3486
03:18:05,680 --> 03:18:10,920
Speaker 1: art form, it's a lot like podcasting, storytelling, preaching. All

3487
03:18:10,959 --> 03:18:14,240
Speaker 1: of these things are kind of in the same vein, right,

3488
03:18:14,560 --> 03:18:17,480
Speaker 1: and um, I have a certain amount of respect for them.

3489
03:18:17,959 --> 03:18:20,240
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what Godford said and we'll

3490
03:18:20,320 --> 03:18:24,880
Speaker 1: bring back some comments here after. I okay, Ti has

3491
03:18:24,920 --> 03:18:28,240
Speaker 1: been doing comedy, guys. Yes, he's been doing comedy for

3492
03:18:28,320 --> 03:18:31,200
Speaker 1: the past three weeks. He's been He's been getting on

3493
03:18:31,360 --> 03:18:36,879
Speaker 1: stage and not rapping on your show. First of all,

3494
03:18:37,160 --> 03:18:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm getting off stage. I did it was on a

3495
03:18:39,240 --> 03:18:42,640
Speaker 1: Thursday last Thursday. I'm on stage. I do like an

3496
03:18:42,680 --> 03:18:45,360
Speaker 1: hour forty because I'm Thursday was the first show did

3497
03:18:45,440 --> 03:18:48,520
Speaker 1: our forty and I get off and already goes Godfrey.

3498
03:18:49,959 --> 03:18:52,840
Speaker 1: TI is here and he wants go on, um like

3499
03:18:53,160 --> 03:18:55,440
Speaker 1: after you know, I said what, But I was like,

3500
03:18:55,480 --> 03:18:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm dude, I'm not gonna say no the Ti. Yeah,

3501
03:18:57,760 --> 03:18:59,600
Speaker 1: it could have been caressed one. I'd be like, yeah,

3502
03:19:00,000 --> 03:19:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm doing Yeah. It's one of those things where you

3503
03:19:02,360 --> 03:19:04,840
Speaker 1: go as of course, as a comedian, I'm like, why

3504
03:19:04,879 --> 03:19:09,120
Speaker 1: the fuck are you in our lace? But as a branding,

3505
03:19:09,520 --> 03:19:12,120
Speaker 1: as a oh this is a good look, as in

3506
03:19:12,360 --> 03:19:17,160
Speaker 1: everybody's about visual, everybody's about social media. I go, sure, yeah,

3507
03:19:17,400 --> 03:19:19,680
Speaker 1: let him up. Yeah he did about half hour. He's

3508
03:19:19,680 --> 03:19:24,040
Speaker 1: telling stories. You know. TI talks very slowly, Yeah, expeditiously,

3509
03:19:24,400 --> 03:19:29,080
Speaker 1: uses big words. That. So it's his town, Atlanta's his town. Yeah.

3510
03:19:29,200 --> 03:19:32,360
Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, I didn't go into watch. Yeah,

3511
03:19:32,680 --> 03:19:35,680
Speaker 1: I didn't go into watch TI because as a headliner,

3512
03:19:35,760 --> 03:19:38,280
Speaker 1: no one's supposed to go up after you. Yeah. But

3513
03:19:38,560 --> 03:19:41,440
Speaker 1: as there's a code in comedy that I follow, I'm

3514
03:19:41,520 --> 03:19:44,280
Speaker 1: not watching what you can't do better than me? Yeah,

3515
03:19:44,600 --> 03:19:47,959
Speaker 1: you're not a comedian to me, you you're working your way.

3516
03:19:47,959 --> 03:19:50,480
Speaker 1: I give him, he's taken it seriously. I don't know

3517
03:19:50,560 --> 03:19:53,040
Speaker 1: how long he's gonna do that. Yeah, but I'm not

3518
03:19:53,160 --> 03:19:56,720
Speaker 1: coming back after I finished my shit. Yeah, I tore

3519
03:19:56,840 --> 03:19:58,360
Speaker 1: that bitch down, and I'm gonna go back and go

3520
03:19:58,520 --> 03:20:02,080
Speaker 1: watch someone who's like, yeah, not who's not a comic,

3521
03:20:02,120 --> 03:20:05,720
Speaker 1: who's not a comedian for me morally, that's just fucking stupid. Yeah.

3522
03:20:05,720 --> 03:20:07,480
Speaker 1: But but but you just got through saying that. It's

3523
03:20:07,520 --> 03:20:09,200
Speaker 1: it's more than that. You talked about the branding, you

3524
03:20:09,280 --> 03:20:11,360
Speaker 1: talk about all these other avenues that you could touch

3525
03:20:11,400 --> 03:20:13,320
Speaker 1: by having him come. So why wouldn't you go watch

3526
03:20:13,400 --> 03:20:16,080
Speaker 1: him just because Okay, there's something I don't want to watch.

3527
03:20:16,320 --> 03:20:19,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't watch. I'm done. Yeah, I'm not gonna be

3528
03:20:19,120 --> 03:20:21,520
Speaker 1: in the room. I just finished. I'm just saying I

3529
03:20:21,640 --> 03:20:23,920
Speaker 1: just finished. But I waited for He hung out with

3530
03:20:24,040 --> 03:20:26,520
Speaker 1: us and we talked com no at all, I want it, okay,

3531
03:20:26,840 --> 03:20:29,360
Speaker 1: And then you got what you needed with Ti. I

3532
03:20:29,520 --> 03:20:32,879
Speaker 1: have his music. I listened to his music, like when

3533
03:20:33,000 --> 03:20:35,560
Speaker 1: Southern Ship was coming out, yeah and not this ship. Now.

3534
03:20:35,879 --> 03:20:38,480
Speaker 1: He was actually rhyming you know his song. You don't

3535
03:20:38,520 --> 03:20:42,520
Speaker 1: know me um um um, what you know about that?

3536
03:20:42,760 --> 03:20:44,640
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying him, what you know about

3537
03:20:44,879 --> 03:20:47,400
Speaker 1: But he went up and he was really gracious and shit,

3538
03:20:47,840 --> 03:20:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, let thanks for letting me up Bola boom.

3539
03:20:50,080 --> 03:20:53,640
Speaker 1: And we did a shit. I didn't fucking alive with him. Yeah,

3540
03:20:53,760 --> 03:20:58,560
Speaker 1: and I'm and people say this, god, yea, that I

3541
03:20:58,600 --> 03:21:01,800
Speaker 1: would have a businessman and Gary who owns it, he's

3542
03:21:02,040 --> 03:21:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, he he he's a bit ho ho ho

3543
03:21:07,400 --> 03:21:14,320
Speaker 1: ho ho ho ho whoa whoa whoa big guy? Are

3544
03:21:14,400 --> 03:21:18,240
Speaker 1: you saying you showed fake love? Is he saying he

3545
03:21:18,320 --> 03:21:21,959
Speaker 1: showed fake love? Are you saying that you embraced Tip

3546
03:21:22,160 --> 03:21:25,560
Speaker 1: on stage? Left stage, went to a podcast and complained

3547
03:21:25,600 --> 03:21:27,960
Speaker 1: about it. I know that ain't what I'm hearing. Listen,

3548
03:21:28,080 --> 03:21:32,320
Speaker 1: hold up running it back. That's his thing, basis, and shit,

3549
03:21:32,800 --> 03:21:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, let thanks for letting me up Bula boom.

3550
03:21:35,040 --> 03:21:37,720
Speaker 1: And we did a shit. I did a fucking alive

3551
03:21:37,800 --> 03:21:43,760
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, and I'm and people say this would

3552
03:21:44,000 --> 03:21:47,160
Speaker 1: and as a businessman, Gary who owns it, he's you know,

3553
03:21:47,280 --> 03:21:50,480
Speaker 1: he he had he's a bit close friend of Chappelle's

3554
03:21:50,520 --> 03:21:53,040
Speaker 1: and he that's his thing. It's in Atlanta. And then

3555
03:21:53,120 --> 03:21:56,680
Speaker 1: the landlords of that place that owned the comedy club,

3556
03:21:57,520 --> 03:22:01,400
Speaker 1: own the space. Are these Pakistani dudes? They were all excited. Yea,

3557
03:22:01,560 --> 03:22:04,360
Speaker 1: so it was just a whole It was a good look.

3558
03:22:04,440 --> 03:22:07,840
Speaker 1: Yet I would have loved for it to happen before

3559
03:22:07,920 --> 03:22:10,520
Speaker 1: you went up, though, Like if you could switch the idea.

3560
03:22:11,280 --> 03:22:15,440
Speaker 1: Let's let's imagine it's tis concert, he's doing a wrap

3561
03:22:15,520 --> 03:22:17,560
Speaker 1: thing and you want to go up and do some time.

3562
03:22:18,320 --> 03:22:21,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a no, we can open up, all right?

3563
03:22:21,560 --> 03:22:24,640
Speaker 1: Why would I go up after? Right? Right? Right right?

3564
03:22:24,800 --> 03:22:28,960
Speaker 1: And the same vein for comedy, it looks like he

3565
03:22:29,080 --> 03:22:30,760
Speaker 1: just started. I'm looking up, like how long he's been doing?

3566
03:22:31,879 --> 03:22:37,920
Speaker 1: My understanding again, I'm going off my understanding for comics,

3567
03:22:38,320 --> 03:22:41,320
Speaker 1: for for the for the genre. You know, I'm going

3568
03:22:41,760 --> 03:22:44,280
Speaker 1: off my understanding for the genre because again, by me

3569
03:22:44,400 --> 03:22:48,320
Speaker 1: studying podcasts as a new industry, I bump into comics

3570
03:22:48,360 --> 03:22:52,080
Speaker 1: who built the industry. And as I run into that,

3571
03:22:52,280 --> 03:22:56,160
Speaker 1: I studied comics. So it's just a by default, right,

3572
03:22:56,280 --> 03:22:58,800
Speaker 1: and by me understanding that, I'm thinking he more so

3573
03:22:58,959 --> 03:23:03,400
Speaker 1: speaking about the art form and it's just his place sitting.

3574
03:23:03,520 --> 03:23:06,360
Speaker 1: He's basically saying, because the dude's not better than me,

3575
03:23:06,520 --> 03:23:11,959
Speaker 1: he shouldn't be on stage after me. Now hold on, now,

3576
03:23:12,320 --> 03:23:16,160
Speaker 1: two black people, Now that's a that's a different conversation,

3577
03:23:16,280 --> 03:23:19,400
Speaker 1: because again I'm looking at it saying, all right, I

3578
03:23:19,600 --> 03:23:22,200
Speaker 1: get it right, because comedy has a grass Russ approach.

3579
03:23:22,280 --> 03:23:24,080
Speaker 1: I'll hear me, just break it down. That's how I'm

3580
03:23:24,120 --> 03:23:26,440
Speaker 1: looking at it now. As I listened to him, because

3581
03:23:26,959 --> 03:23:29,240
Speaker 1: again I don't operate with notes. I get on here,

3582
03:23:29,560 --> 03:23:32,080
Speaker 1: I listen to things, and I just I go off right.

3583
03:23:32,200 --> 03:23:37,480
Speaker 1: So as I'm listening to dude, that's saying I'm not

3584
03:23:37,600 --> 03:23:40,280
Speaker 1: gonna get on behind somebody that's not a comic, that

3585
03:23:40,400 --> 03:23:42,960
Speaker 1: doesn't do this, that's not better than me, that doesn't

3586
03:23:43,000 --> 03:23:45,400
Speaker 1: do this better than me. I haven't heard anything about

3587
03:23:45,440 --> 03:23:49,800
Speaker 1: the art form. I haven't heard anything about what I'm saying.

3588
03:23:49,840 --> 03:23:52,440
Speaker 1: What I know that Joey Diaz go down to the

3589
03:23:52,520 --> 03:23:55,720
Speaker 1: comedy store and get ten dollars at the same time

3590
03:23:55,800 --> 03:23:59,360
Speaker 1: as being on water board next to Adam Sandler. I

3591
03:23:59,480 --> 03:24:02,680
Speaker 1: know that Old Rogan has the number one podcast in

3592
03:24:02,760 --> 03:24:05,440
Speaker 1: the world and he gets up at the seller and

3593
03:24:05,640 --> 03:24:09,680
Speaker 1: might get eighteen dollars. Right. I know Dave Chappell to

3594
03:24:09,760 --> 03:24:13,160
Speaker 1: walk into the comedy store in LA and have to

3595
03:24:13,240 --> 03:24:16,520
Speaker 1: wait and only get that a little eight minutes, fifteen

3596
03:24:16,640 --> 03:24:19,480
Speaker 1: minutes at most, Like you know, I know they still

3597
03:24:19,560 --> 03:24:22,760
Speaker 1: get treated a certain way of grass roots approach. But

3598
03:24:22,879 --> 03:24:25,680
Speaker 1: it seemed like, basically, this sounds a little haterish to me.

3599
03:24:26,000 --> 03:24:29,600
Speaker 1: This don't sound like, no yo, respect the crab. It's

3600
03:24:29,600 --> 03:24:32,240
Speaker 1: almost like if it were football, It's like, you know,

3601
03:24:32,280 --> 03:24:34,600
Speaker 1: how y'all gonna call dude the fastest man in the league,

3602
03:24:34,600 --> 03:24:37,720
Speaker 1: and y'all ain't got his forty time. It's almost like

3603
03:24:37,800 --> 03:24:40,520
Speaker 1: they skipped this forty time. He gave him fastest dude

3604
03:24:40,520 --> 03:24:43,120
Speaker 1: in the league, you know, And I will respect that

3605
03:24:43,200 --> 03:24:46,160
Speaker 1: because everybody come through that structure. But I wouldn't just

3606
03:24:46,280 --> 03:24:49,560
Speaker 1: say that y'a'm fasting to him. And you know, it's

3607
03:24:49,560 --> 03:24:51,760
Speaker 1: just like yo, you bo. For me, that just don't

3608
03:24:51,800 --> 03:24:54,240
Speaker 1: sound right. It just sounds like he he might be

3609
03:24:54,400 --> 03:24:56,280
Speaker 1: hating a little bit. Let me hear a little more.

3610
03:24:56,640 --> 03:25:02,840
Speaker 1: Ye comics Atlanta talk. I mean, it's like TI and

3611
03:25:03,040 --> 03:25:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean I heard some laughters, some in

3612
03:25:06,000 --> 03:25:08,720
Speaker 1: and out, but I like, are they laughing, because oh

3613
03:25:08,760 --> 03:25:11,440
Speaker 1: my god, it's fucking TI. Like, yeah, you know it's

3614
03:25:11,480 --> 03:25:15,440
Speaker 1: a big shiny object, right because that object stops getting

3615
03:25:15,480 --> 03:25:18,680
Speaker 1: shiny in comedy. Yeah, Because it's like it's a day in,

3616
03:25:18,800 --> 03:25:21,440
Speaker 1: day out grind. You're only famous for like five minutes

3617
03:25:21,480 --> 03:25:23,959
Speaker 1: and after that, what are you gonna What are you saying?

3618
03:25:24,040 --> 03:25:27,360
Speaker 1: It's like all the phenomenon is gonna go away if

3619
03:25:27,440 --> 03:25:30,600
Speaker 1: he if he becomes like I'm going to do comedy now, yeah,

3620
03:25:30,800 --> 03:25:34,880
Speaker 1: that phenomenon goes the fuck away because he's gonna there's

3621
03:25:34,879 --> 03:25:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna be times he's gonna have to go to open

3622
03:25:37,120 --> 03:25:40,080
Speaker 1: mics if he wants. Actually, yeah, that's what I'm gonna

3623
03:25:40,160 --> 03:25:44,760
Speaker 1: keep busting in MP. I think, yeah, he's because he

3624
03:25:44,879 --> 03:25:47,440
Speaker 1: did Donnell's after mine. He went to Califrond did Donnelle

3625
03:25:47,480 --> 03:25:49,360
Speaker 1: and I'm open you know, so I'm like, are you

3626
03:25:49,480 --> 03:25:51,880
Speaker 1: going to go to regular open mics and really work

3627
03:25:51,959 --> 03:25:55,320
Speaker 1: your craft? Yeah? You know because because I agree with

3628
03:25:55,520 --> 03:25:58,080
Speaker 1: Vin was saying though, because if it was reverse, they

3629
03:25:58,120 --> 03:26:01,280
Speaker 1: would have said no, Like if yeah, comes up to

3630
03:26:01,280 --> 03:26:06,840
Speaker 1: the rappers a girl, I'm trying to know. So it's like, like,

3631
03:26:09,200 --> 03:26:11,200
Speaker 1: what the reason why that they'll say no to a

3632
03:26:11,320 --> 03:26:15,560
Speaker 1: rapper Number one is because and I know that the

3633
03:26:15,680 --> 03:26:19,440
Speaker 1: crafts see there some people in are speaking craft language.

3634
03:26:19,480 --> 03:26:21,560
Speaker 1: And that's when I'm more so speaking about the crab

3635
03:26:21,760 --> 03:26:25,280
Speaker 1: respecting the John res a whole, but when you bring

3636
03:26:25,360 --> 03:26:30,080
Speaker 1: it into the rap world, a comedian doesn't have the

3637
03:26:30,160 --> 03:26:35,279
Speaker 1: effect that that doesn't translate the same Tias. Celebrity translates

3638
03:26:35,360 --> 03:26:38,280
Speaker 1: to any stage that he walks up on. So let's

3639
03:26:38,360 --> 03:26:41,680
Speaker 1: not just say that any old comedian can now, if

3640
03:26:41,760 --> 03:26:45,119
Speaker 1: Duvall's in the city and Duvall might want to come

3641
03:26:45,160 --> 03:26:47,840
Speaker 1: out with bullshit, that's a goal. Let's do that, and

3642
03:26:47,920 --> 03:26:50,280
Speaker 1: it might be plenty of rappers out there that thing. Man,

3643
03:26:50,360 --> 03:26:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm from here, everybody know me. I should get

3644
03:26:53,120 --> 03:26:55,520
Speaker 1: on stage and they can't make that move. So it's

3645
03:26:55,560 --> 03:26:59,880
Speaker 1: about what translate on stage. And for Tip, his celebrity

3646
03:27:00,080 --> 03:27:02,840
Speaker 1: translates wherever he goes. So if he stands on the

3647
03:27:02,920 --> 03:27:06,720
Speaker 1: comics comedian stage, you see how to building the owners happen.

3648
03:27:06,800 --> 03:27:10,960
Speaker 1: That speaks to his celebrity translating. That's that's that's that's

3649
03:27:11,000 --> 03:27:14,080
Speaker 1: what you gotta deal with. So Noah, comedian can't walk

3650
03:27:14,200 --> 03:27:16,520
Speaker 1: up and say, hey, Yo, I want to bust my

3651
03:27:16,800 --> 03:27:21,400
Speaker 1: my freestyle after your song, after you've done rapping, because

3652
03:27:21,480 --> 03:27:25,240
Speaker 1: that comedians in most cases, now, guess what after my

3653
03:27:25,360 --> 03:27:29,320
Speaker 1: show gets who can come on Dave Chapelle, let me

3654
03:27:29,440 --> 03:27:31,480
Speaker 1: let let one of the rap dudes be rapping and

3655
03:27:31,600 --> 03:27:33,760
Speaker 1: say yo after me Chapelle here. He want to talk

3656
03:27:33,800 --> 03:27:37,199
Speaker 1: to y'all for a minute. Everybody is locked in because

3657
03:27:37,280 --> 03:27:41,359
Speaker 1: his celebrity translates, the respect for what he does translates,

3658
03:27:41,400 --> 03:27:45,240
Speaker 1: and he speaking to the same people, right, So yeah,

3659
03:27:45,400 --> 03:27:48,279
Speaker 1: nah nah, a lot of your comics, a lot of comics,

3660
03:27:48,600 --> 03:27:55,160
Speaker 1: and they're rapping ability. Those two things just don't it doesn't.

3661
03:27:55,600 --> 03:27:58,840
Speaker 1: It's not giving. Yeah, it's not giving what what what

3662
03:27:58,959 --> 03:28:01,040
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be even so you can't. That's a

3663
03:28:01,160 --> 03:28:05,360
Speaker 1: bad in my opinion, that's a bad. Uh. False parallel

3664
03:28:06,560 --> 03:28:08,879
Speaker 1: comedy's like a public bathroom. Or he comes in, Yeah,

3665
03:28:09,040 --> 03:28:11,640
Speaker 1: that's that's facts. That's a great and everybody comes in

3666
03:28:11,760 --> 03:28:13,960
Speaker 1: and the door is just always open. Yeah you know

3667
03:28:14,000 --> 03:28:15,720
Speaker 1: what I mean. Maybe you're a man or woman, you

3668
03:28:15,800 --> 03:28:18,039
Speaker 1: go through your door, but it's always fucking open. Yeah

3669
03:28:18,280 --> 03:28:20,400
Speaker 1: you know so, And like I said, it's not like

3670
03:28:20,560 --> 03:28:23,200
Speaker 1: fucked it. No, I'm like, you're taking it seriously cool,

3671
03:28:23,840 --> 03:28:26,360
Speaker 1: you know, because I fuck with Ti just like you know,

3672
03:28:26,440 --> 03:28:28,560
Speaker 1: the ship that he's trying to build in Atlanta when

3673
03:28:28,600 --> 03:28:30,240
Speaker 1: he's like, we need to build our own fucking me

3674
03:28:30,280 --> 03:28:34,279
Speaker 1: all that shit. And yeah, he takes care of his children.

3675
03:28:34,680 --> 03:28:37,040
Speaker 1: He does, like six of them, right, six or seven. No,

3676
03:28:37,200 --> 03:28:39,240
Speaker 1: he's he's there first kid. I'm being serious. He know

3677
03:28:39,280 --> 03:28:42,040
Speaker 1: what I mean? She there first kids? Yeah, and um,

3678
03:28:42,560 --> 03:28:46,840
Speaker 1: but comedy, I'm like, all right, this is real. This

3679
03:28:46,959 --> 03:28:50,040
Speaker 1: ain't this ain't like getting lucky, ship, but just the

3680
03:28:50,120 --> 03:28:55,720
Speaker 1: one night where he came after is getting lucky. She's

3681
03:28:55,720 --> 03:28:58,240
Speaker 1: going to Danielle show old no man, come on, A

3682
03:28:58,280 --> 03:29:00,600
Speaker 1: loan is the dude that bridge to get between the

3683
03:29:00,720 --> 03:29:04,840
Speaker 1: comics and the rappers, bro, the comics and the athletes. Like,

3684
03:29:05,000 --> 03:29:08,760
Speaker 1: what we're not gonna do is this credit rap? Bro,

3685
03:29:09,600 --> 03:29:12,840
Speaker 1: This ain't no get lucky shit when we deal with rapping.

3686
03:29:12,920 --> 03:29:16,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that again, respectfully, because you

3687
03:29:16,120 --> 03:29:20,199
Speaker 1: don't want to start a like come on, bro, because

3688
03:29:20,240 --> 03:29:22,879
Speaker 1: if we talk about comedy, what do we really staying

3689
03:29:22,920 --> 03:29:26,120
Speaker 1: and what do these dudes staying. Let's talk about it.

3690
03:29:26,200 --> 03:29:29,520
Speaker 1: I've studied the space. Bro, let's chill, and let's never

3691
03:29:29,720 --> 03:29:33,800
Speaker 1: ever again say that rappers and get lucky shit like

3692
03:29:34,040 --> 03:29:37,120
Speaker 1: these dudes don't work hard. A lot of these rap

3693
03:29:37,240 --> 03:29:40,840
Speaker 1: dudes work extremely hard, day in and day out, and

3694
03:29:41,000 --> 03:29:44,160
Speaker 1: day in and day out. Bro, Let's not disrespect each

3695
03:29:44,240 --> 03:29:48,960
Speaker 1: other's genre in that way. Let's coexist. Let's try to

3696
03:29:49,080 --> 03:29:54,280
Speaker 1: procreate nigga. Yeah, let's not talk to each other like you. Yo. Bro.

3697
03:29:54,480 --> 03:29:58,360
Speaker 1: Let's come on, bro, let's going in to ghetto to

3698
03:29:58,440 --> 03:30:00,720
Speaker 1: pick them bags up. You look do it is funny?

3699
03:30:02,360 --> 03:30:06,160
Speaker 1: You're going to the city, funny, little dude. I'm going

3700
03:30:06,240 --> 03:30:08,600
Speaker 1: to the town as a rap dude with two million

3701
03:30:08,680 --> 03:30:11,680
Speaker 1: dollars worth shit around me and beef with a couple

3702
03:30:11,720 --> 03:30:14,520
Speaker 1: of people. Man, when you talk about gritty and grammy

3703
03:30:14,600 --> 03:30:18,039
Speaker 1: to get the money, man, don't disrespect the genre lanetting

3704
03:30:18,080 --> 03:30:21,560
Speaker 1: you black man. Let's not do that. Man that da

3705
03:30:21,720 --> 03:30:25,520
Speaker 1: da dad ain't I don't like sad. Let's not do that,

3706
03:30:25,760 --> 03:30:28,840
Speaker 1: my bro. And let's have a conversation about that. Reach

3707
03:30:28,920 --> 03:30:31,080
Speaker 1: out to me I was flying or wherever you at.

3708
03:30:31,400 --> 03:30:34,800
Speaker 1: Let's have a conversation about do you feel like wrapping

3709
03:30:34,879 --> 03:30:38,959
Speaker 1: some get lucky shit? You think these dudes not working hard.

3710
03:30:39,040 --> 03:30:42,199
Speaker 1: You don't think Jay worked hard. You don't think Drake

3711
03:30:42,280 --> 03:30:45,240
Speaker 1: worked hard. You don't think Kanye worked did It worked hard?

3712
03:30:45,320 --> 03:30:49,200
Speaker 1: You don't think come on, man, let's let's let's keep

3713
03:30:49,240 --> 03:30:52,160
Speaker 1: it real. You don't think Tipp worked hard, Ross worked hard.

3714
03:30:52,600 --> 03:30:57,760
Speaker 1: These niggas working hard, and they ain't funny. Ain't nobody

3715
03:30:57,840 --> 03:31:02,200
Speaker 1: giggling when when dudes is around, you feed me. So, nah, man,

3716
03:31:02,280 --> 03:31:07,039
Speaker 1: don't do that, and he flew out to California, Ontario.

3717
03:31:07,200 --> 03:31:10,640
Speaker 1: I think it's Ontario improv to do you know Donelle

3718
03:31:10,680 --> 03:31:14,119
Speaker 1: show Okay, you know, and so I was like, hey, whatever,

3719
03:31:14,160 --> 03:31:18,080
Speaker 1: it's clever. But a lot of people think comedy is

3720
03:31:18,320 --> 03:31:22,840
Speaker 1: just this thing you can kind of get lucky on. Yeah, Like, nah, dude,

3721
03:31:22,840 --> 03:31:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the art of comedy, not getting on

3722
03:31:25,280 --> 03:31:27,160
Speaker 1: a TV show because you could look like somebody and

3723
03:31:27,240 --> 03:31:30,600
Speaker 1: get on. Yeah, I'm talking about the art of comedies

3724
03:31:31,000 --> 03:31:36,000
Speaker 1: like joke to joke, bang bang bang transition, you know.

3725
03:31:37,280 --> 03:31:41,119
Speaker 1: And also what a privilege to be somebody that could go, oh, hey,

3726
03:31:41,280 --> 03:31:47,520
Speaker 1: God for your h being respectful. But it is still

3727
03:31:47,560 --> 03:31:49,200
Speaker 1: a privilege to be able to just go, oh, I'm

3728
03:31:49,240 --> 03:31:51,680
Speaker 1: t I I'm gonna get up on a show like yeah,

3729
03:31:51,760 --> 03:31:54,320
Speaker 1: he's going to do it. He's good at comedy. Is

3730
03:31:54,840 --> 03:31:59,600
Speaker 1: the rejection comedy. He's a rap superstar, yeah, said, he goes,

3731
03:31:59,760 --> 03:32:02,680
Speaker 1: No gonna tell him I'm a rap superstar. I mean,

3732
03:32:02,920 --> 03:32:07,480
Speaker 1: you know that's what I am. Yeah. Yeah, you're wealthy, Yeah,

3733
03:32:07,600 --> 03:32:10,280
Speaker 1: you have a lot of money, you're catalog, you're good

3734
03:32:10,480 --> 03:32:13,280
Speaker 1: for your kids are good. Yeah, so there's a comic

3735
03:32:14,560 --> 03:32:18,000
Speaker 1: that's just trying to pay his rent. Yeah yeah, you know,

3736
03:32:18,720 --> 03:32:21,160
Speaker 1: whoa Boa whoa. You can also look at it at

3737
03:32:21,400 --> 03:32:24,600
Speaker 1: a different way, mister black man Godfrey, you can look

3738
03:32:24,640 --> 03:32:27,120
Speaker 1: at that a different way. You can say that all right,

3739
03:32:27,200 --> 03:32:29,480
Speaker 1: his tip, he's well off, he's good. You don't need

3740
03:32:29,600 --> 03:32:32,120
Speaker 1: no money. It's catalog got him straight. All those things

3741
03:32:32,200 --> 03:32:35,600
Speaker 1: that you said, again, perspective is king in this world

3742
03:32:35,760 --> 03:32:38,200
Speaker 1: that day. All that you could have said could have

3743
03:32:38,280 --> 03:32:41,400
Speaker 1: also been used to make the other argument that man,

3744
03:32:41,520 --> 03:32:44,480
Speaker 1: he really gotta love this to be doing it. Ain't

3745
03:32:44,520 --> 03:32:48,680
Speaker 1: no money in this for him. Man, Wow, dude, got

3746
03:32:48,800 --> 03:32:50,600
Speaker 1: plenty of money. Man. He want to get up on

3747
03:32:50,640 --> 03:32:53,360
Speaker 1: the stage in which we know. Boy, that's a scary

3748
03:32:53,520 --> 03:32:57,879
Speaker 1: spot if you know comedy. If you know comedy, it's

3749
03:32:57,920 --> 03:33:01,119
Speaker 1: like being in everything's looking at you speak about all

3750
03:33:01,240 --> 03:33:04,280
Speaker 1: lies on me. That's when it's all lies on you,

3751
03:33:05,040 --> 03:33:08,760
Speaker 1: and it's some expectation attached to it. Right, So you

3752
03:33:08,840 --> 03:33:11,240
Speaker 1: don't know what the feeling is, and Godfrey does, and

3753
03:33:11,360 --> 03:33:13,600
Speaker 1: comics does, but you don't know what the feeling is.

3754
03:33:13,680 --> 03:33:16,800
Speaker 1: For someone to fall from his highest timp is coming

3755
03:33:18,440 --> 03:33:21,400
Speaker 1: because bombing is necessary to be great as a comic.

3756
03:33:21,760 --> 03:33:24,560
Speaker 1: So if he knows the game that, if he studied

3757
03:33:24,600 --> 03:33:27,120
Speaker 1: it at all before he went into it, he knows

3758
03:33:27,200 --> 03:33:30,199
Speaker 1: he got a bomb. So now he got a bomb

3759
03:33:30,400 --> 03:33:33,000
Speaker 1: as the famous celebrity dude with all the money. He

3760
03:33:33,120 --> 03:33:37,920
Speaker 1: know it's coming and it's probably gonna be on camera somewhere, right,

3761
03:33:38,040 --> 03:33:40,800
Speaker 1: So he gotta love this game to come embarrass itself.

3762
03:33:41,480 --> 03:33:44,119
Speaker 1: We know, we know, if you study comedy, you coming

3763
03:33:44,120 --> 03:33:47,520
Speaker 1: to embarrass yourself before you get to a point where

3764
03:33:47,520 --> 03:33:50,200
Speaker 1: you can do to Dave Chappelle, before you could do

3765
03:33:50,320 --> 03:33:53,440
Speaker 1: the Rogan, before you can do the Bill Burr, before

3766
03:33:53,480 --> 03:33:58,360
Speaker 1: you can do the Steve Harvey, You're gonna Yeah, so

3767
03:33:58,520 --> 03:34:01,120
Speaker 1: he coming to embarrasses said, with all that money that

3768
03:34:01,200 --> 03:34:03,160
Speaker 1: you talk about, but yeah, you look at that to

3769
03:34:03,280 --> 03:34:06,199
Speaker 1: say the other side, And again I think it's interesting

3770
03:34:06,320 --> 03:34:08,600
Speaker 1: coming from a black dude. I would expect the white

3771
03:34:08,680 --> 03:34:11,680
Speaker 1: comic to say it. No one said nothing, it's interesting,

3772
03:34:12,000 --> 03:34:14,520
Speaker 1: And Tip responded, I'm gonna play that. I just want

3773
03:34:14,560 --> 03:34:16,280
Speaker 1: to hear a little bit more this because again this

3774
03:34:16,440 --> 03:34:19,120
Speaker 1: is real time, but let's listen to a little bit more.

3775
03:34:19,600 --> 03:34:21,560
Speaker 1: Pick them and his teeth. What do you mean you

3776
03:34:21,640 --> 03:34:23,160
Speaker 1: want to go up shut up. But I know, I

3777
03:34:23,240 --> 03:34:26,120
Speaker 1: know somebody said to Ti. Somebody said to Ti, yo,

3778
03:34:26,480 --> 03:34:28,920
Speaker 1: you looked uncomfortable, and he looked at him, Go, now,

3779
03:34:29,000 --> 03:34:38,720
Speaker 1: what makes you think I was uncomfortable? A real fucking Yeah, Yeah,

3780
03:34:38,840 --> 03:34:42,520
Speaker 1: he's that motherfucker. Glad he's popular enough to to just

3781
03:34:42,720 --> 03:34:45,480
Speaker 1: draw his own crowd. Yeah, he's a real doing his

3782
03:34:45,560 --> 03:34:48,520
Speaker 1: own show. He's like a real like like he's one

3783
03:34:48,520 --> 03:34:52,200
Speaker 1: of those dudes. Really polite, but that's scary polite. Yeah

3784
03:34:52,440 --> 03:34:55,280
Speaker 1: that I could see if he's snap. Yeah, like he

3785
03:34:55,520 --> 03:34:59,400
Speaker 1: because I don't play that ship like Ti Ti is.

3786
03:34:59,520 --> 03:35:02,680
Speaker 1: Somebody remember when something broke off at some sort of

3787
03:35:02,760 --> 03:35:05,959
Speaker 1: club man and the cops showed up, and Ti came

3788
03:35:06,000 --> 03:35:08,840
Speaker 1: out with his whole entourage and basically stepped in the

3789
03:35:08,920 --> 03:35:11,840
Speaker 1: middle told the police, look, we don't want no problems.

3790
03:35:12,120 --> 03:35:14,000
Speaker 1: I got my crew here, you got yours, but let's

3791
03:35:14,040 --> 03:35:16,560
Speaker 1: just talk this out sidebody to be cool. Like I mean.

3792
03:35:18,600 --> 03:35:20,840
Speaker 1: Where he said that too, was like what you see.

3793
03:35:20,879 --> 03:35:23,840
Speaker 1: And that's what I say about this space in comics.

3794
03:35:23,920 --> 03:35:26,800
Speaker 1: And again I'm telling you if you want to know

3795
03:35:26,920 --> 03:35:29,480
Speaker 1: about podcasting, and this is a gem I shouldn't be

3796
03:35:29,560 --> 03:35:31,320
Speaker 1: giving out, but I'll do it for the sake of

3797
03:35:31,440 --> 03:35:35,160
Speaker 1: everybody is hustling and my demographic is us, so it

3798
03:35:35,280 --> 03:35:39,720
Speaker 1: may help somebody. Comics built this space. They know how

3799
03:35:39,760 --> 03:35:43,960
Speaker 1: to speak. That's why Schultz is able to When he

3800
03:35:44,080 --> 03:35:46,160
Speaker 1: got next to Charlemagne, it was the best thing that

3801
03:35:46,200 --> 03:35:48,520
Speaker 1: happened to him because he was already at comic but

3802
03:35:48,640 --> 03:35:51,400
Speaker 1: he didn't have a co sign, but he got next

3803
03:35:51,440 --> 03:35:54,240
Speaker 1: to Charlemagne. He got some of that game from Charlemagne

3804
03:35:54,240 --> 03:35:57,640
Speaker 1: because Charlemagne is in the structure setting. Charlemagne is a

3805
03:35:57,760 --> 03:36:05,400
Speaker 1: walking game. Giveful if you're in this content creator broadcasting

3806
03:36:05,520 --> 03:36:08,480
Speaker 1: space and you get to sit next to him every week, weekend,

3807
03:36:08,520 --> 03:36:10,040
Speaker 1: and week out, you get to hear some of the

3808
03:36:10,120 --> 03:36:13,120
Speaker 1: conversations that he's having with some of these brands and

3809
03:36:13,240 --> 03:36:15,280
Speaker 1: some of these people. And something you prive you to

3810
03:36:15,400 --> 03:36:18,480
Speaker 1: certain things. This fold, this molding you. That's molding the

3811
03:36:18,560 --> 03:36:21,320
Speaker 1: way you communicate. So Schotz was able to do that

3812
03:36:21,440 --> 03:36:24,280
Speaker 1: and being a comic on top of that knocks it

3813
03:36:24,400 --> 03:36:29,240
Speaker 1: out the water right. Comics built this space. So you

3814
03:36:29,320 --> 03:36:31,640
Speaker 1: see Godfred take all through all that and at the

3815
03:36:31,760 --> 03:36:33,240
Speaker 1: end of the clip, we want to clean it up

3816
03:36:33,280 --> 03:36:35,959
Speaker 1: all he's a gangster, he's that these are this how

3817
03:36:36,040 --> 03:36:38,880
Speaker 1: well they are communicating. This ain't by coincidence. He know,

3818
03:36:39,040 --> 03:36:40,880
Speaker 1: cleaning up at the end when I run in the till.

3819
03:36:40,920 --> 03:36:43,600
Speaker 1: But I'll just say, now, clean that up at the end, bro,

3820
03:36:44,400 --> 03:36:46,720
Speaker 1: But just stand by your real feelings. We real We

3821
03:36:46,840 --> 03:36:49,840
Speaker 1: respect your real feelings. It's cool. It's cool that you

3822
03:36:49,959 --> 03:36:53,360
Speaker 1: didn't like the fact that his celebrity to translated because

3823
03:36:53,400 --> 03:36:56,000
Speaker 1: it ain't about the craft. You never once said, yo,

3824
03:36:56,080 --> 03:36:59,400
Speaker 1: you gotta work your way up to that. And then

3825
03:36:59,480 --> 03:37:01,320
Speaker 1: they say, yo, he can go get the crowd, he

3826
03:37:01,400 --> 03:37:04,119
Speaker 1: can draw his own crowd. Just start doing your own thing. Naw,

3827
03:37:04,200 --> 03:37:07,400
Speaker 1: I won't embarrass myself. I want to come up and

3828
03:37:07,560 --> 03:37:11,000
Speaker 1: speak in front of the real comedian fans. I want

3829
03:37:11,040 --> 03:37:13,000
Speaker 1: to try my shit on the people that ain't coming

3830
03:37:13,040 --> 03:37:16,960
Speaker 1: because it's Tip talking right, and it's like, you know,

3831
03:37:17,080 --> 03:37:19,160
Speaker 1: I got to have some respect for this on form.

3832
03:37:19,240 --> 03:37:21,600
Speaker 1: But let's listen to what Tips said back to the dude.

3833
03:37:22,240 --> 03:37:25,800
Speaker 1: On the dude is recognize something, someone who could be

3834
03:37:25,920 --> 03:37:29,480
Speaker 1: an allied, someone who could be an asset, someone who

3835
03:37:29,600 --> 03:37:37,680
Speaker 1: could add value. And you misrepresenting that as opposition. Bro,

3836
03:37:37,800 --> 03:37:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm not your opponent. You're talking about. You know what

3837
03:37:41,080 --> 03:37:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You've been doing this and how long you've

3838
03:37:43,640 --> 03:37:46,760
Speaker 1: been doing it, and and and for somebody to come

3839
03:37:46,840 --> 03:37:49,240
Speaker 1: on after you after you were headline. Hey, bro, you

3840
03:37:49,320 --> 03:37:51,840
Speaker 1: know how many medians it is out there rapping right now?

3841
03:37:52,480 --> 03:37:53,960
Speaker 1: You know how many comedians it is that they're doing

3842
03:37:54,360 --> 03:37:56,480
Speaker 1: and doing. I've been rapping since I was eight years over.

3843
03:37:57,160 --> 03:38:01,080
Speaker 1: It took me sixteen seth probably years that goddamn get

3844
03:38:01,120 --> 03:38:07,200
Speaker 1: where I wanted to be. You think what I'm saying now,

3845
03:38:07,360 --> 03:38:11,279
Speaker 1: if a mother was to bring a comedian to an arena,

3846
03:38:11,760 --> 03:38:14,040
Speaker 1: the owner of the arena was to bring a comedian

3847
03:38:14,240 --> 03:38:17,160
Speaker 1: to that arena after I had then got through ripping

3848
03:38:17,240 --> 03:38:24,000
Speaker 1: my mother. My What you are failing to do is

3849
03:38:24,080 --> 03:38:27,880
Speaker 1: recognize something someone who could be an ally, someone who

3850
03:38:27,959 --> 03:38:30,640
Speaker 1: could be an You said in your little interviews, you

3851
03:38:30,720 --> 03:38:32,520
Speaker 1: said that he's not a comedian, And had you taken

3852
03:38:32,560 --> 03:38:34,120
Speaker 1: the time to come to the stage what you said

3853
03:38:34,160 --> 03:38:35,760
Speaker 1: that you would not do and you should not do.

3854
03:38:36,160 --> 03:38:38,760
Speaker 1: But I disagree. You would have heard in my set

3855
03:38:38,840 --> 03:38:41,640
Speaker 1: I say I am not a comedian, I'm a superstar.

3856
03:38:42,560 --> 03:38:47,840
Speaker 1: That's a difference. That's a difference. You would have heard that, bro,

3857
03:38:48,959 --> 03:38:52,280
Speaker 1: Like I really just man, Because to be honest with you,

3858
03:38:52,680 --> 03:38:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm still till I'm still the same till the same

3859
03:38:57,160 --> 03:38:59,600
Speaker 1: he said, couldn't be the king of the Sava back

3860
03:38:59,640 --> 03:39:02,959
Speaker 1: into thousand and two thousand and one. Eat it personal

3861
03:39:03,080 --> 03:39:05,360
Speaker 1: for me, and that why I'm the king of the

3862
03:39:05,400 --> 03:39:07,360
Speaker 1: South today because I took it that serious, because they

3863
03:39:07,400 --> 03:39:09,879
Speaker 1: said I couldn't do it, and that what y'all you're

3864
03:39:09,920 --> 03:39:12,760
Speaker 1: out of me? You hit me, and I mean for peace,

3865
03:39:14,200 --> 03:39:18,240
Speaker 1: for peace and tranquility. You're understanding what you're doing there.

3866
03:39:19,040 --> 03:39:23,920
Speaker 1: You're poking about. You're poking about. I'm still tip bron.

3867
03:39:25,120 --> 03:39:30,520
Speaker 1: He'll go up. But what you said in your little

3868
03:39:30,560 --> 03:39:32,560
Speaker 1: interview is you said that he's not a comedian and

3869
03:39:32,640 --> 03:39:34,440
Speaker 1: had you take it, you know what I mean, with

3870
03:39:34,560 --> 03:39:37,680
Speaker 1: a lot more discernment, a lot more thought, a lot

3871
03:39:37,800 --> 03:39:45,920
Speaker 1: more intention now. Okay, So look, man, let's everybody man

3872
03:39:46,160 --> 03:39:48,960
Speaker 1: coexist together. Everybody help each other if it's a way

3873
03:39:48,959 --> 03:39:51,480
Speaker 1: I can help you. Man. Just so again, you hear

3874
03:39:51,560 --> 03:39:53,400
Speaker 1: what happened, You hear how it happened. It was a

3875
03:39:53,520 --> 03:39:58,400
Speaker 1: situation again man, that Tipu was faced with, you know,

3876
03:39:58,520 --> 03:40:03,320
Speaker 1: dealing with comedian, dealing with that Godfrey guys. So so again,

3877
03:40:03,400 --> 03:40:06,640
Speaker 1: as long as it was about the crowd, I had

3878
03:40:06,720 --> 03:40:11,600
Speaker 1: respect for the argument when it became just a personal vendetta,

3879
03:40:11,720 --> 03:40:16,080
Speaker 1: like about like, yo, you're not my ego, I'm better

3880
03:40:16,160 --> 03:40:20,120
Speaker 1: than you, the last, the best comedian go last. See

3881
03:40:20,120 --> 03:40:23,800
Speaker 1: I I didn't come from that. I didn't. When I studied,

3882
03:40:23,840 --> 03:40:28,360
Speaker 1: I didn't find that dealing with the white boys. When

3883
03:40:28,400 --> 03:40:30,600
Speaker 1: I deal with the white boys, I found out that

3884
03:40:30,760 --> 03:40:36,160
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan bro brought out Joey Diaz, and oftentimes Joey

3885
03:40:36,240 --> 03:40:42,320
Speaker 1: Diaz killed the crowd like went hard, everybody laughing, everybody

3886
03:40:42,480 --> 03:40:46,320
Speaker 1: laughing uncontrollably, and Joe Rogan had to follow that. So

3887
03:40:46,440 --> 03:40:49,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't that right, So I didn't. I didn't come

3888
03:40:49,520 --> 03:40:52,480
Speaker 1: up with the last man, the funniest man, go last.

3889
03:40:52,879 --> 03:40:56,040
Speaker 1: The headline of speaks to what you being paid and

3890
03:40:56,160 --> 03:41:00,440
Speaker 1: how to contracts the structure. Right, Sometimes we're dealing with

3891
03:41:00,560 --> 03:41:04,440
Speaker 1: the funniest person that night was the headliner, right, and

3892
03:41:04,560 --> 03:41:06,400
Speaker 1: it's all for the love or the sport. But when

3893
03:41:06,400 --> 03:41:09,200
Speaker 1: you go to talking about yo, I'm better than you

3894
03:41:09,640 --> 03:41:12,440
Speaker 1: and so you should be behind me, that doesn't speak

3895
03:41:12,480 --> 03:41:15,600
Speaker 1: to the craft. And I respect the craft just by

3896
03:41:15,680 --> 03:41:19,000
Speaker 1: again studying, so um I have a different set of

3897
03:41:19,879 --> 03:41:22,840
Speaker 1: a different set of expectations for a comedian to say

3898
03:41:22,920 --> 03:41:26,240
Speaker 1: things like that. So that's my outlook on it, man,

3899
03:41:26,320 --> 03:41:31,400
Speaker 1: But another episode or the fastest growing podcasts in the world,

3900
03:41:32,360 --> 03:41:35,279
Speaker 1: it's up that podcast, biggest