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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to work in progress, high

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Speaker 1: Web smarties. I know we're all itching for some inspiration

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Speaker 1: and perhaps a reminder that no matter how hard things get,

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Speaker 1: there's always an opportunity for healing, for reinvention, and for creation,

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Speaker 1: and today's guest is a shining example of all of

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Speaker 1: those things. We are joined today by none other than

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Speaker 1: Amanda Clutes. You might know her as an incredible former

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Speaker 1: a television host from CBS's The Talk to being a

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Speaker 1: best selling author. Her memoir Live Your Life, My Story

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Speaker 1: of Loving and Losing Nick Cordero, is centered on her

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Speaker 1: storyory of her life as a new mom and a

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Speaker 1: wife in twenty twenty, losing her partner to COVID in

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Speaker 1: early days, and managing to be such an incredible advocate

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Speaker 1: who took so many of us along, learning how to

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Speaker 1: stay safe, learning how to protect our families and communities,

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Speaker 1: and learning how to protect ourselves. Her memoir about that

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Speaker 1: time is truly a lifeline for readers that are navigating

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Speaker 1: grief and now, as a single mom to her young son, Elvis,

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Speaker 1: Amanda has really continued to channel her loss into creativity.

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Speaker 1: She wrote a gorgeous children's book called tell Me Your

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Speaker 1: Dreams as a love letter to memory, connection and hope.

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Speaker 1: And now she is here in her incredible wellness element

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Speaker 1: with a new supplement line that is honestly solving problems

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Speaker 1: I know, myself and so many of you have been

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Speaker 1: begging to have solved. She always manages to see a

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Speaker 1: something that I really admire about her as a creative,

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Speaker 1: as a woman and a mom and a friend. So

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Speaker 1: let's dive in today and talk with Amanda about her

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Speaker 1: journey to realize that healing is not really about moving on.

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Speaker 1: It's about moving forward and loving every version of you

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Speaker 1: that you're carrying with you.

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Speaker 2: Let's dive in with Amanda Clutes. How are you like?

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Speaker 2: Before we, you know, get.

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Speaker 1: Dive in to interview things, I just like, I just

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Speaker 1: adore you and I never get to see you, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just so happy I'm seeing you now.

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Speaker 3: I know, it's so nice to see you too. I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I'm really good.

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Speaker 4: El of a sudden, I have the best summer ever.

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Speaker 4: We traveled for like over a month together, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: I can't complain. So feel life is really nice right now.

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Speaker 4: I'm like good, feeling good about a lot of stuff,

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Speaker 4: and it's just nice to be in that place, you know.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, when you're really in the thick of

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Speaker 1: it and in something that feels so dark like there

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Speaker 1: will never be light again, and then your life feels light.

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Speaker 1: It's not that I think people can't love their life

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Speaker 1: or be grateful or really be tapped into goodness if

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Speaker 1: they haven't gone through heavy grief. But there's some there's

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Speaker 1: a different degree of goodness I think after you've processed

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Speaker 1: heavy grief.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's been like I think, because it's been

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Speaker 4: five years now, five years was a weird mark and

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Speaker 4: we can talk about it if you want to. But

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Speaker 4: I was with Nick for five years, so now that

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Speaker 4: five years has passed like a weird I don't know,

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Speaker 4: it just it hit.

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Speaker 3: Me like that, it hit me that timeline.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, before we get into all the amazing things

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Speaker 1: happening now and what's what we're doing now and perhaps

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Speaker 1: our spiritual practices now. I always really like to go

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Speaker 1: backwards with people because your audience knows you your life,

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Speaker 1: your career, sometimes your personal life, as this adult doing

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Speaker 1: great things out in the world. But I'm always really

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Speaker 1: curious if you could go back in time and spend

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Speaker 1: time with your younger self, if you if you would

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Speaker 1: see yourself in her, like if you could rewind in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two. Can't Knowhio, what would you say to

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Speaker 3: You know, I think I do see myself in her.

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Speaker 4: I had a therapist a couple of years ago, and

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Speaker 4: But she said, put your ten year old self in

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Speaker 4: And at first I thought it was really dumb, and

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Speaker 4: I don't want to like I you know, it was

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Speaker 4: I do see the little girl that just loves to

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I really do connect with her.

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Speaker 4: I think the poor little girl has no idea what's

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Speaker 3: But I'm also, yeah, really proud of all the different

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've had like nineteen versions of myself.

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Speaker 1: Oh me too, Yeah, yeah, I think it was, if

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, I think it was Chryl Strad who

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Speaker 1: wrote about how in our lives as women, we almost

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Speaker 1: become nesting dolls. You carry every version of the woman

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Speaker 1: you were inside yourself, and I just I love that

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Speaker 1: because sometimes you'll talk about, you know, the versions of

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Speaker 1: life you've lived, and I think I've watched that bump.

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Speaker 1: For some people, people be like, no, I don't like that.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like then what are you saying you didn't

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Speaker 1: did this, or I was somehow a different person. And

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Speaker 1: I actually think it's not that you've been trying on

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Speaker 1: versions of yourself that weren't authentic. It's the journey of

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Speaker 1: can you love yourself? Enough can you learn to love

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Speaker 1: yourself enough to listen to whether your inner self says

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Speaker 1: around it. Yeah, And I don't know, I think that's

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Speaker 1: really special that you can sit and say, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: about the younger versions of myself that are in me.

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Speaker 3: I like that too.

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Speaker 4: And I think what I love to do is like

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Speaker 4: look back, like retrospect, you know, like I love looking

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Speaker 4: that was interesting or how that affected me. I think

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Speaker 4: of it as lately, like my life is chapters. Like

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Speaker 4: the precipice of a new chapter. Like if you ever

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Speaker 4: felt within yourself where you're like, yes, they're changing and

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Speaker 4: I know it's there. I just like I just have

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Speaker 4: jump into that next chapter. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, It's like it's like when you're driving somewhere you've

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Speaker 1: never been and you can tell that you're only five

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Speaker 1: can feel it getting close to the destination, but you

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Speaker 1: it's so surreal to be in that place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I have a question and it may seem unrelated, but

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Speaker 1: and the change coming, I'm so curious about this because

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Speaker 1: and I know you're really close to your family. Do

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Speaker 4: I you know what's funny though, is just to like

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Speaker 3: And I just said.

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Speaker 4: I said, because we're at a point with our family

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Speaker 4: You don't know what my life is every day, and

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Speaker 4: so I have to like it's just different than when

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Speaker 3: She can't travel. So it's like it's it's I think

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Speaker 4: I think life is changing and for me especially, and

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Speaker 4: I actually am asking for my family just to support

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Speaker 3: It's hard for a family to do that when you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, but I think you're right. The intrinsic

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Speaker 1: you observe so much, it's impossible to get that same

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Speaker 1: It's like, it's actually one of the things that as

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Speaker 1: I'm always somewhere else to my most important people and

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Speaker 1: my family. I'm always the absent person. And yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: do whatever I can. Yeah, but man, it does like

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Speaker 3: For sure, You're right, the everyday things just change.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's hard, you know, you try to relate

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Speaker 1: But it's amazing, and I think the I think that's

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Speaker 1: do it eight times a week.

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00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 3: What do you do it for that day? And then

442
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: you've done?

443
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 4: Yeah.

444
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: I was like, I love film.

445
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 4: It's just so funny how you get used to one

446
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 4: thing and then you transfer over and then yeah, started

447
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 4: off with film and.

448
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 3: Then went to Broadway. It would be a whole different,

449
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I have to do this all the time, like, yeah,

450
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 3: it's so funny.

451
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: Oh it's crazy. And and when you talk about.

452
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: You know, I mean even just the what a cool

453
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: thing that you got to start vocal training in college

454
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: and then really open up as a singer because you

455
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: were working on Broadway.

456
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 2: Was you know, when I.

457
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: Think about obviously the last couple of years, it seemed

458
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: like an outsider, like music was such an important part

459
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: of your life and career, of Nick's life and career,

460
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: and then became something so important to the two of

461
00:24:53,960 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: you together. Was was this sort of early overlap in

462
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 1: your working worlds when you guys were like getting to

463
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: know each other. Were you just like, oh my god,

464
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: this man and his music.

465
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: Yes, but it was it was it was like a twofold.

466
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: So when we started dating, I was ending my first marriage,

467
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 4: so we had to like we were very like secret

468
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 4: about our relationships. So after the show we were doing

469
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 4: bullets over Broadway, we would each go home and then

470
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 4: we would skype.

471
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 2: For my gosh.

472
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: Five in the morning.

473
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 4: And Nick would just play me music over Skype. But

474
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 4: it was a twofold because there were some things like

475
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 4: he would play me some of his original stuff. You know,

476
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 4: that moment of being a girl where you're like, you've

477
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 4: seen the Barbie movie, right, like the guy is playing

478
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 4: music and you're like and then you're just say.

479
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: Like I get it, I adore you and I get it,

480
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: you know.

481
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 3: And so it was like part part part, you know.

482
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: But that is very much the dynamic of Nick and

483
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 4: I and Nick's music, and you know, he he was

484
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 4: constantly making music and a lot of it never had lyrics,

485
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 4: and then stop lyrics, and then some had jumbled lyrics,

486
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 4: and then and then all of a sudden, he would

487
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 4: you know, be doing a show and they'd all have lyrics.

488
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 4: And one song sounded like rock and roll, the next

489
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,479
Speaker 4: song sounded like a country song, the next song sounded

490
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 4: like Broadway like, and then the next one sounded like

491
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 4: Frank Sinatra, like he was.

492
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: All over the place. And so it just now it

493
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: makes me laugh.

494
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 4: It used to frustrate me, but now it just makes

495
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: me laugh because it's just very much him.

496
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 3: He just he did. He loved music.

497
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 4: I yet to meet anyone that knew more about music

498
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 4: than Nick Cordero.

499
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 3: He would wake.

500
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 4: Listening to BBC podcasts. He would read Rolling Stones cover

501
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 4: to cover. I remember.

502
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: One of my favorite stories he early early dating years.

503
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: I'm in his apartment in Washington Heights and he's like, Babe,

504
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 4: there's this girl and she's making music in her bedroom

505
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 4: with her brother and they are going to be huge.

506
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, okay, and he was like,

507
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 4: she's like sixteen years old or like fourteen years old,

508
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 4: and they I'm telling you now, they're gonna be huge.

509
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 4: And I was like okay, and he was like, her

510
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 4: name's Billie Eilish, and I was like okay.

511
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 3: And years later, what's so beautiful.

512
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: About this story is years later, during Nick's battle with COVID,

513
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 4: Phineas writes me a song, and after Nick passes away,

514
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 4: he DMS me and I don't see it, and my

515
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 4: realtor friend, who's his real litter friend, is like, I

516
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 4: think Phineas O'Connell sent you a DM and I was like, okay.

517
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 4: So I looked at my DMS. There it was I

518
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 4: wrote your song. I've been following your story and I

519
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 4: was like, what I listened to this song. It is

520
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 4: the most beautiful song I've ever heard, and it's like

521
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 4: very cold play. Ask which I love, and I write

522
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: him back. Immediately We become instant friends. He ends up

523
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 4: singing me this song live many times in his concept

524
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: It's like and I if I could.

525
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 3: I ended up telling him, I'm like, you don't understand.

526
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 4: Nick told me about you guys when we first started writing,

527
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 4: like he clocked you guys in your bedroom in Echo

528
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: Park or Highway. I was like, and the how the

529
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: world works? You've written a song now about He would

530
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: roll over in his grave, like if he knew that

531
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 4: you wrote me a song like it just that's life.

532
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: Though it's so beautiful, you know what I mean?

533
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful.

534
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: And now a word from our sponsors that I really

535
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: enjoy and I think you will too. What a wild

536
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: experience it must have been. I mean, both of you,

537
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, with your gorgeous careers in your own rights.

538
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: You know, you were both known people. But then his

539
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: COVID battle it I remember, you know, we have so

540
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: many friends in common. We hadn't met yet at the time,

541
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: but I remember hearing what you guys were going through,

542
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: and suddenly it seemed like every single person I knew

543
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: anywhere was like, do you know what's going on with

544
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: this Nick and Amanda couple in La And I mean,

545
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: you were so generous, with so much pain, you had

546
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: every right not to take time out of your day

547
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: to try to help other people. But while you guys

548
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: were going through this battle of his sickness, you you

549
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: tried to tell so many people you know, you you became,

550
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: at least for me as again someone who didn't know

551
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: you personally yet such a guidepost, like a beacon, because

552
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 1: you just told the truth and everyone was so scared

553
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: and people didn't know what was happening, and it was

554
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: so hard to know where we were going to get

555
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: any sort of information. And then you know, you had

556
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 1: all this disinformation happening, people claiming, you know, oh, don't worry,

557
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: it's like the flu. No it's not, and you were like,

558
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: let me tell you what's happening to my husband, Like,

559
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: let me explain what this does to someone's body. It

560
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: it struck me as being.

561
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna get emotional.

562
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: Sorry.

563
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: It struck me that you took something so.

564
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: Tragic and chose to give to other people like it

565
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: was such a profound active service to watch in a

566
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: time when like everyone should have been serving you. You know,

567
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm like you you should have had someone like make

568
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: you a meal train and you were like trying to

569
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: tell people how to get vaccinated.

570
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that chains thanks to tell Geller. Actually she set

571
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: up that meal chain.

572
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

573
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: Anyway, sorry, I thank you, that's it.

574
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: Thank You're just a gem of a human. And I

575
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: I know you've.

576
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: You've talked about it and shared about it, and you

577
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: don't have to repeat anything you.

578
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 2: Don't want to.

579
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: But I just I guess I wonder, like, looking back

580
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: on five years, what, how do you kind of process

581
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: that journey?

582
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: You know the fact that.

583
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: We were all so isolated and yet you were having

584
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: this incredibly intimate moment with so many people. I don't know.

585
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: I just I guess I wonder, like how it I

586
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: don't want to say how it feels to you now

587
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: that's a stupid word, but you know how how it settles?

588
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: I guess, m h.

589
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: I It's like the oddest thing, to be honest, like

590
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 4: it I've processed it so many times, and yet I

591
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: as like I have never processed it. And what was

592
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: I I was watching something the other day I think

593
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 4: I was watching a movie and something will just trigger something,

594
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 4: and then like I can't even focus because I'm like

595
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 4: back in that world. And then when I think about it,

596
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 4: I'm like so completely like I can't believe that happened,

597
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: that I get kind of like pulled away, and then

598
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 4: I try to process it again in that respect, and

599
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 4: then sometimes I feel like I've processed it so much

600
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: that it's not near to me anymore, and then I

601
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: feel bad that you am moving away from it, and

602
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: then I feel guilty about that. And then the times

603
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: where I'm too close to it and I feel guilty

604
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 4: about being holding on to it, I think that's just trauma, though,

605
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, which is why I think it's so

606
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: important to understand that healing is such a journey and

607
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 4: it never stops because and you have to keep treating it,

608
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 4: because it's going to process so many times in so

609
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: many different ways, because keep growing and I keep living,

610
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: and I have done that keeps growing and keeps living, so.

611
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: Our lives are moving forward.

612
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 4: So it's impossible not to love and attach myself to

613
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: that time in my life. But also I have to

614
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: learn how to separate myself from that time in my life.

615
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 4: Both feel wrong. So it's very it's it's a very

616
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 4: hard it's a very hard thing to process. And and

617
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 4: I think that's when like any kind of anniversary, be

618
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 4: at our wedding anniversary or Knick's birthday, or Elvis's birthday

619
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 4: or his death anniversary or my birthday, are very very

620
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 4: hard because it's just a remembrance of time, and any

621
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: time you can clock that time is I think, just

622
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 4: also a trigger.

623
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I think it's.

624
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 4: It's it's I don't know if I'll ever not be

625
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: healing from that. And I also think that, hey, you know,

626
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 4: it's just it's just life. It's a part of my life.

627
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 4: It's a scar that is in me, that will always

628
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: be in me. And there's a lot of beautiful parts

629
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 4: about that scar, and there's a lot of really hard

630
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: parts about that scar. Yeah, I still can't believe it happened.

631
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: Like I mean, there's so many times where I cannot

632
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: believe that happened.

633
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 3: And it's like talk about that little girl.

634
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 4: I look back on that chunk of my life, that

635
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: COVID part of my life, and all even like I have,

636
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 4: you know, Instagram saves everything, so like there's times where

637
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 4: something will pop up and then I'll see something. It's like,

638
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 4: I don't even recognize that version of myself. Like it's

639
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: such a fight or flight moment in life. And I

640
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 4: think that you talked about my honesty and thank you

641
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: so much for everything you said. I think that in

642
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 4: our lives when you're going through like severe trauma or

643
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: life and death situations, it's just all the bullshit is removed.

644
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 4: You're just being honest. There's nothing else to talk about.

645
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 4: Is just it's just pure honesty and truth. That's it,

646
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 4: Like that nothing matters other than that when death is

647
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: on the table. So I think that was just a

648
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 4: version of myself that came out because nothing else mattered

649
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 4: right to the world. I mean, we were all worried

650
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: about death at that moment in our lives. You know,

651
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 4: you got COVID that means you could die possibly. Yeah,

652
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: it was just such a weird time in our world

653
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 4: and life.

654
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I think what you just said

655
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: reminds me. I heard you say something recently that I

656
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: thought was so beautiful that you haven't had a fight

657
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: with anyone since Mack past, because what's the point in

658
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: fighting with anybody? And it almost feels like that's one

659
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: of those everything's whittled death to just what's necessary things

660
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: that you took from that journey. And again, just as

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Speaker 1: an observer, you know, I've watched you write a memoir

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Speaker 1: that has also been so incredibly honest, Find joy again,

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Speaker 1: like get back into your dance, which I imagine is

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Speaker 1: so healing for you. You know, doing Dancing with the Stars,

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Speaker 1: we were all like so geeked and excited. You know,

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Speaker 1: You've you've shared really beautiful stories with your audience on

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Speaker 1: the talk. It's really interesting to watch you share the

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Speaker 1: honest truth and also really courageously. I would say, find

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Speaker 1: your joy again. I just wonder about in this place

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Speaker 1: where you're so tender and you also have no bulsh left,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine it actually takes some like ferocious courage

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Speaker 1: to claim your joy in public out loud.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does. You're absolutely right, it really does. Because

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Speaker 4: I think in a beautiful way, the world got to

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Speaker 4: know me and my story, but also in a very

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Speaker 4: hard way. It's like they're still attached to that story.

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Speaker 3: And I'm very grateful for it.

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Speaker 4: And I have a beautiful community of people that support

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Speaker 4: me that I know and that I don't know. At

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Speaker 4: the same time, yeah, like, I'm also a forty three

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Speaker 4: year old woman that has a lot of life to live,

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Speaker 4: and it would want me to live that life as

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Speaker 4: beautiful and big and as full as possible. I know

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Speaker 4: that I would want the same thing for him if

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Speaker 4: the roles are reversed, And yeah, I do. I have

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Speaker 4: a gorgeous son, And like, I'm gonna still like I'm

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Speaker 4: not perfect. I'm gonna make mistakes, I'm gonna do silly things,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do smart things.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I think you're right. People do get attached

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Speaker 3: to who they think you should be or what they

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Speaker 3: think you should do.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's also like, well, no one actually

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Speaker 4: lives my life except for me and I and I'm

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Speaker 4: I am proud of how I'm living my life.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll be back in just a minute after

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Speaker 1: a few words from our favorite sponsors. You are a

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Speaker 1: generative person. You know, even when you think about every

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Speaker 1: every step of your career, you know, dance to Broadway

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Speaker 1: to moving up through that world to you know, film

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Speaker 1: and TV and the show and the and the writing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like you you continue to gather creative

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Speaker 1: inspiration forms of expression, and to me goes that says

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Speaker 1: to me like, oh, that my friend is like a

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Speaker 1: very entrepreneurial person like you are. You always want to

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Speaker 1: learn something and then learn another thing. And I feel

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Speaker 1: like when I saw the announcement that you were expanding

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Speaker 1: into wellness, you know again as a dancer, as a mom,

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Speaker 1: and creating supplements, I was like, I'm obsessed with that

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Speaker 1: for her, you know, like it just felt it felt

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Speaker 1: like the next right thing for you to get your

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Speaker 1: hands on something completely brand new and completely your own

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Speaker 1: and completely creative. Where do you think the idea came from?

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Speaker 1: I mean, does it go way back to early days

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Speaker 1: of career or does it also track to the fact

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Speaker 1: that a public health crisis was so incredibly personal for

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Speaker 1: you and your family, and health has become wealth essentially.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, definitely health is so wealth, you know. It's

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Speaker 4: I've always loved creating things. My first creation was my

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Speaker 4: jump rope with my fitness company, and then I created

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Speaker 4: a fitness Oh my god, I created this matt that

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Speaker 4: I sold for a while, and then I created a

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Speaker 4: CBD muscle relief pain cream.

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Speaker 3: I love creating products that I believe.

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Speaker 4: Will be beneficial and helpful to people, and so cut

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Speaker 4: to you know, this chapter.

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Speaker 3: In my life, I do many things.

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Speaker 4: One of them is I'm an influencer, so I, you know,

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Speaker 4: get paid to influence products or things or whatever. And

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Speaker 4: the amount of supplements I have influenced over the years

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Speaker 4: I can imagine.

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Speaker 3: And some of them I love, and some of them,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't like. And a lot of them.

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Speaker 4: Though, are you know, extremely expensive pills or powders that

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Speaker 4: I would try and then sit on my counter and

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Speaker 4: I would get over them, you know, because like how

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Speaker 4: many pills can we take? And I think that powder

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Speaker 4: tasted good, but now I think it tastes like grass.

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Speaker 3: And I.

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Speaker 4: Just got to the point where as a mom, and

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Speaker 4: as a single mom and somebody that's just trying to

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Speaker 4: find things in the day to make me feel like

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Speaker 4: a whole human being and that I can keep moving

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Speaker 4: in life, I just felt like there was a need

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Speaker 4: for a supplement company that allowed a woman or a

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Speaker 4: man or anyone to be able to take five minutes

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Speaker 4: put a powder and water, have it taste great, have

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Speaker 4: it be affordable, have it be accessible, and have them

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Speaker 4: feel good about what they just did.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, so I created proper there it is.

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Speaker 1: It's so cutie.

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Speaker 2: I got my box. Oh god, I've brought it anywhere

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Speaker 2: from the kitchen.

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Speaker 4: But the point of it is is that I truly

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Speaker 4: believe I'm not the same person every day. I don't

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Speaker 4: need the same supplement every day. Some days I'm feeling

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Speaker 4: under the weather, so I want to boost my immunity.

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Speaker 4: Some days I'm not eating great, so I want to

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Speaker 4: have my greens. Some days I'm super anxious and I

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Speaker 4: need a power that'll call my anxiety. So I created

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Speaker 4: five powders, and then we just launched our Daily Glow,

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Speaker 4: which is the six powder, so that you can it's

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Speaker 4: like it's your fun, like.

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Speaker 3: What do I need today?

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Speaker 4: And mix some and you can use two or three

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Speaker 4: of them in a day whatever you need. But it's

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Speaker 4: all about They're twenty eight dollars, which is so affordable,

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Speaker 4: available at Target, Amazon and on our website. But like,

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Speaker 4: they not only are affordable, but they taste so good

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Speaker 4: that it's like you you don't even mind getting all

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Speaker 4: the greens in your day because it's like a bright

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Speaker 4: green apple and it's so refreshing. So it was more

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Speaker 4: so just that Sophia just being like at a point

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Speaker 4: in my life that where I've I've influenced a lot

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Speaker 4: of things. Mom, I'm just doing things in my day

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Speaker 4: to try to make me feel better. I do love health,

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Speaker 4: I do love wellness. I'm obsessed with longevity. So it's yeah,

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Speaker 4: just giving. I always think about, because I'm from Ohio,

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Speaker 4: I always think about, like Linda in Ohio, what does

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Speaker 4: Linda in Ohio need? Yes, you know, she doesn't live

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Speaker 4: in New York City or LA. She's not getting NAD injections,

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Speaker 4: she's not sitting under red lamps.

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Speaker 3: She's going to Target and.

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Speaker 4: She's trying to find one thing that will help her

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Speaker 4: feel better in her day.

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Speaker 3: And so that's why I created Brockberd.

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Speaker 1: I love it and what I think is so I

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Speaker 1: mean for me, as you know, your friend and a recipient.

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Speaker 2: Of the line. What I love.

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Speaker 1: About what you're talking about is the simplicity of it.

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Speaker 1: I will never forget After a show that I'd worked on,

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Speaker 1: my sweet writer had went on this like old Twitter thread.

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Speaker 1: We've we've created this series together that was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be about like foreign adversarial espionage in the NSSA, And

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Speaker 1: it turned out that when we made it, some things

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Speaker 1: had shifted in our landscape and suddenly that seemed like

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Speaker 1: American reality. And yeah, the network was like, we're not

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Speaker 1: going to become targets of the most powerful people in

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Speaker 1: the country.

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Speaker 2: So this show's not going to go on the air.

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Speaker 1: We laugh about it now, but we were very sad.

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Speaker 1: And the backstory matters because my sweet writer was like,

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Speaker 1: here's what I'm going to talk about, the amazing people

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Speaker 1: who put this show together.

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Speaker 2: And he went on this like.

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Speaker 1: Gorgeous thread rampage on Twitter and was talking about like

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Speaker 1: our collaboration and our writing, and he goes, and You've

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Speaker 1: never slept better or felt better than when you work

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Speaker 1: with this woman because she carries around a bag with

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Speaker 1: thirty five potions and things and bottles and whatever, and

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Speaker 1: she makes you take all your vitamins every day. And

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Speaker 1: it turned into like a little bit of a thing

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Speaker 1: for a while with people being like what's in the

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Speaker 1: pack and like what are the thirty five things you take?

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Speaker 2: And I hit a point where I just was like I.

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Speaker 1: Can't do this, Like I yes, I feel better when

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Speaker 1: I make sure I'm getting everything I need and I'm

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Speaker 1: getting the vitamins and minerals I need, But I don't

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Speaker 1: have it in me to figure out what to take

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Speaker 1: with what food so it doesn't make me nauseous, and

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Speaker 1: to figure out how to carry all this shit around

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Speaker 1: with me all the time, Like at least when I

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Speaker 1: go to set, I have like a little read and

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Speaker 1: this is an hour after you yeah, and it's like

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Speaker 1: what And you know when I go to set, I

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Speaker 1: wheel around a little bag like a grandma like a trolley,

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Speaker 1: so I can do it. But in my life I

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Speaker 1: don't have time for this. And when I got your line,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I have time for this, And

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Speaker 1: I love that I can say this is most of

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Speaker 1: everything I need and if I want a combo, I

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Speaker 1: can double down on this. I can, you know, to

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Speaker 1: your point, energy and greens and whatever it is. And

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Speaker 1: it just feels like somebody solved a problem that I

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Speaker 1: know I have.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know how to solve.

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Speaker 1: So on behalf of myself and everyone nodding along to

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Speaker 1: this conversation, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Well. I think that it's important that in wellness we

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Speaker 4: don't make ourselves feel guilty. Like good fitness too, Like,

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Speaker 4: don't feel guilty if today you can only do five

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Speaker 4: or ten minutes, that's not tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: You know, don't feel guilty if you didn't. Don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't ever want anybody to look at my supplement

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Speaker 4: line Proper on your countertop and walk by and feel guilty.

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Speaker 4: I want you to feel inspired. So I hate when

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Speaker 4: pills just look at me. I call it my supplement graveyard, yes,

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Speaker 4: where I'm like, I know I should take them, but

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Speaker 4: it's four pills and it's like I already took three weeks,

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Speaker 4: like I.

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Speaker 1: Just can't do it, and so you.

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Speaker 4: Feel guilty about not doing something good for yourself. And

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Speaker 4: I just never want that to be the case. And

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00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 4: so Proper isn't about like you have to take your

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00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: daily greens on a daily baby. Sure you can, but

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Speaker 4: you can also just take it when you need it

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Speaker 4: so that you feel good about that choice at that

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Speaker 4: moment on that day.

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Speaker 2: I love that so much.

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Speaker 1: When you think about, you know, all of these projects

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Speaker 1: you've brought into the world, they're all things that it

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00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: strikes me that you mother, you know, you create something

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Speaker 1: and you get it ready to release out to people.

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Speaker 2: And I think.

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Speaker 1: Raising kids is kind of like that, you know. I

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Speaker 1: had a conversation on the show a few months ago,

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Speaker 1: what an insane thing I'm about to say. It was

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Speaker 1: Michelle Obama, and she talked about how her mom's best

868
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Speaker 1: advice was that she was raising adults, not raising babies. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you raise your babies, but you want them to be

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Speaker 1: adults when they go out into the world. And I

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Speaker 1: guess I wonder you know now, I'm at the stage

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Speaker 1: where everyone in my life has littles and it's so

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Speaker 1: much fun to be surrounded by kids all the time.

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Speaker 2: And yours is six, and like he's still a.

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Speaker 1: Baby, but he's on his way to adulthood, right, Like

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Speaker 1: what do you see in him? Are there things in

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Speaker 1: the same way that you can look back at your

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Speaker 1: ten year old self and see yourself in her. Are

879
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: there things you can see in him now by six

880
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: where you go, oh, that's how you're going to be

881
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: when you're fifteen, Or oh, I see something about you

882
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: that you'll take out into the world as an adult

883
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: man someday.

884
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, Like perfect example, is this happened I don't

885
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: know about a month ago, but he still sleeps with me,

886
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 4: and we climb into bed and.

887
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,959
Speaker 3: I had had I had just like had a night.

888
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: I was I was sad.

889
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 4: So we got into bed and I said to Elvis.

890
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, Elvis, I'm really sorry.

891
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 4: I was like, Mommy was on her phone a lot

892
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 4: tonight and I was like, I'm sorry about that, buddy.

893
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 4: I was like, I I feel like I didn't spend

894
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 4: any time with you tonight. And I was like, I

895
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 4: just I miss dad. And he goes he lifts up

896
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: his arm and he goes, come here, mom, and like

897
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 4: asked me to like come in and cuddle like I

898
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 4: do to him. Yeah, I entertained the thought, and I

899
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 4: like got under his little arm and like put my

900
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 4: head gently on his chest, his little chest and he's

901
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 4: so tall and skinny right now that he's like, you know,

902
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 4: just bones and so like I gently laid down.

903
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: He was like, mom, you're heavy. And I was like

904
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: adult and he's like, you're like a ten cop fleet

905
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: and I was like okay, right, and then I was

906
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 3: like and he like but he.

907
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 4: Was trying to like console like he knew that I

908
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 4: was sad, and he knew that I needed like a

909
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 4: hug and love. And so then I pulled his arm

910
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: away and I was like, get in here. I was like,

911
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 4: you'll be bigger than me one day, and you can

912
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 4: you can hug me then and then he's so sweet hot.

913
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 4: But like, I think it's those things where I just

914
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 4: I hopefully am seeing like who he will be at

915
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 4: fifteen kind of man he'll be, you know at twenty five.

916
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, a partner.

917
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: So I just, yeah, I treasure that little kid. He's

918
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 4: a good little boy.

919
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 2: Oh it's so so sweet. Well, when you think about.

920
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: All these things, you know, all the all the things

921
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: you hold, your family and your work and your company.

922
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: And you know, your.

923
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: Navigation of the sort of ends of the spectrum of

924
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: all of this experience as you look forward, because you've

925
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: done so much, what feels like it's ahead, what feels

926
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: like you're work in progress out on the horizon.

927
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, like you said before, I love creating.

928
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 4: So I have like I have, I'm very much it's

929
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: and I think it's from Broadway, never feeling like completely stable,

930
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 4: you know, it's an actor performing, you know, And so

931
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: I kind of cast a net of like ten different things,

932
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 4: and I kind of have them all like burning, so

933
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: that if one goes out, I still have nine, and

934
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 4: then if one like starts really getting hot, then like

935
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 4: I can kind of fine tune the others so you know,

936
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 4: I'm really excited about Proper and all the fun things

937
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 4: that we have in store for that, and there's a

938
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 4: lot coming down the pipeline. So that's like my entrepreneurial

939
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 4: business side. I get to travel a lot for fitness

940
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 4: and teach, and I love teaching fitness so much because

941
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 4: I love what fitness community is, and I love helping people,

942
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 4: and I love challenging people, and I love helping people

943
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 4: understand that fitness can be fun and filled with joy

944
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 4: and filled with gratitude instead of yes please yeah, instead

945
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 4: of you know, pushing hard and hurting your body and

946
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 4: all that stuff. So I love I love all of

947
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 4: the things on the horizon for just teaching and connecting

948
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 4: with people all over the world with that. And then yeah,

949
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 4: my you know, creative brain is always you know, trying

950
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 4: to do more movies and TV shows and hosting and

951
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: all that stuff. So there's fun things pipeline with that.

952
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just feel like we're in a

953
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 4: day and age where and I feel like you probably

954
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 4: related to this too, is like I feel very lucky

955
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 4: that I get to do a lot of things, and

956
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 4: there's times where I feel lost, and there's times where

957
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 4: I feel like I can't do this and I don't

958
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 4: know what I'm thinking, And then there's times where I'm like, I.

959
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: Can absolutely do this. I can Yeah, who's going to

960
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 3: tell me no?

961
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 4: You know? And if they tell me no, one day,

962
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 4: they'll tell me yes, So like we'll just keep pushing

963
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: and it's fun, so that like keeps me going. So

964
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just love all the different things.

965
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 4: And I am equally passionate about all of them. If

966
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 4: you see me teaching a fitness class or you see

967
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 4: me like acting in the show or hosting a red carpet, like,

968
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 4: I'm equally passionate about all.

969
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 3: Of those things. Yeah, I love them all equally. I

970
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: don't want to choose, like I just I want to

971
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 3: do them all.

972
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: I love that I will never forget, you know. Really

973
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: early in my career being told like you have to

974
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: pick a lane. Yeah, and I remember thinking, why am

975
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: I supposed to reduce the subjects that I'm interested in

976
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: the things I find fascinating? Why shrink that? And I

977
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: think we're really lucky that through our adulthood, the ability

978
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: for people to be multi hyphenets really feels like it's shifted. Yeah,

979
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm happy we're here.

980
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 3: I think so too. Yeah. I think still needs some shifting,

981
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 3: but we're getting there.

982
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're on our way.

983
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely