1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Here we go on a Thursday. We got a great 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: show today. There is so much going on. We're live. 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Well, 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: we've said this about show. Heyo Tani before. He makes 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: other great Dodgers look one dimensional. You can take all 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: stars like Aaron Judge. You're like, well that is a 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: helm a player, Yeah, but he doesn't pitch. He's not 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: an all star on the mountain. That's what not just greatness. 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: That's where you have like disruptors and Michael Jordan was great, 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: Lebron is great, Larry Bird was great, Magic was great. 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Wemby last night did it again forty one points in 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: eighteen rebounds. But that's not the story. He did it 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: in twenty nine minutes. It's the third game this season 24 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: for Wemby forty plus points, ten plus rebounds in thirty 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: minutes or less. The Spurs are the only offense using 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: a microwave and a cooking contest. You're still preheating your oven. 27 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: The meals finished with eight minutes and thirty seconds left 28 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: in the second quarter. He was at twenty one and twelve. 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: That's an all Star night. I mean, it doesn'tbelieve even 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: early Lebron would play forty four minutes. Year three, Lebron, 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: who was the best we thought we'd ever seen, in 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: forty three minutes, he'd be at thirty one points, seven rebounds, 33 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: plays twenty nine minutes. This year twenty five points, eleven rebounds, 34 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: three assist, three blocks. 35 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: This is this is crazy. 36 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Jordan, if he played against Wemby, would 37 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: have his tongue out, but that's because his jaw would 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: be on the floor. Michael Jordan was amazing. Lebron's amazed. 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: They didn't change the calculus of the sport. That's what 40 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: Steph Curry did with three point shots. Forget the fact 41 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: that Wemby is twenty six and one in his last 42 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: twenty seven games or has four blocks, and that leads 43 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: to it's the plus four to thirty three when he's 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: on the floor. Those are all time historic numbers. The ability. 45 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Now in the playoffs, he's going to play far more numbers. 46 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: So if you don't vote him MVP, you're gonna look 47 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: kind of silly when he's scoring fifty in the playoffs 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: in twenty four rebounds because he's playing forty minutes. They 49 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: are measuring him now. I mean, this is Beethoven where 50 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: the mass is. We're just trying to conceptualize what in 51 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: the hell are we experiencing. And when people talk about Wemby, 52 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: they always say things like I've never seen him in person. 53 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: It's like he's a walking, talking UAP. Nobody knows what 54 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: to make of it. How where what I this is? 55 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly watching him. The best defensive player 56 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: in the league for years was Draymond Green. There are 57 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: points Draymond can do anything. The only other player in 58 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: the league that Draymond acknowledges I can't do much is Jokic. 59 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Here's a stat for you. Only fifteen other players in 60 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: league history have had at least two career games with 61 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: forty points, fifteen rebounds, and a couple three pointers. He's 62 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: done it twice in the last three games, and again 63 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: he's doing it in like twenty eight minutes. I can't 64 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: overstate what's happening. It's just unbelievable that you can be 65 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: this dominant this quickly. I mean, you can take great 66 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: players Kareem all time. Kareem was playing an entire game 67 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: to put up these numbers, and Kareem could never hit 68 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: a three pointer. 69 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: This guy's doing it in twenty eight minutes. 70 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: It takes Lebron for numbers like this to play forty 71 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: six in his prime. Steve Kerr on last night's forty one, 72 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty nine minute performance. 73 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 4: I just think he's, uh, he's got unbelievable confidence now, 74 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 4: you know, he just looks like he knows exactly what 75 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: to do at both ends all the time. Whereas I thought, 76 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 4: as you know, first couple of years, he looked young 77 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: head times. He doesn't look young anymore. He just looks 78 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: like he knows exactly what he's doing. Obviously dominated the glass, 79 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 4: you know, I thought Draymond did a really good job 80 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: on him defensive, and then there's plays where you can't 81 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 4: do anything about it. You know, there's several lobs where 82 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: it looked like a nerf who you know, just catching 83 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 4: it and dropping it right in. 84 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr said, hey, I thought Draymon did a really 85 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: good job. Dramon had four fouls in the first half. 86 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: You can't defend him. You cannot defend him. 87 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: You know. 88 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: I watched this documentary about two months ago by Dan Fara. 89 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: It was called Age of Disclosure, and it was about 90 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: UAPs and UFOs, and you know, they talk about at 91 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: one point, there's like a three minute section of it 92 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: that is just fascinating. They're like, well, how can they 93 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: go underwater? And they explain the force field around them 94 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: and it leans forward and that's why there's no jet propulsion. 95 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: And I'm watching this and all these physicists talk about it, 96 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, that explains the stuff, because you know, 97 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: you see the tic tacks from the Pentagon New York 98 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: Times a few years ago, and you're like, well, there's 99 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: no propose and they're going zero to eight thousand miles 100 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: an hour. How And you watch the Age of Disclosure 101 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: and you get physicists saying, Okay, here's how it works. 102 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: I feel like with Wenby to some degree, if you've 103 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: never seen him play and you watch him have a 104 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: full game with eight thirty left in the second quarter, 105 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: and you'd never seen him play, you'd have to ask 106 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: a physicist, well, I mean, how is he getting the 107 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: best defensive play? I mean, like, what is he doing 108 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: that nobody else can do? Like? Well, I mean there 109 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: was great offensive players. I mean, Michael wasn't fouling everybody 110 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: out in the second quarter. I mean, I don't understand 111 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: why he's doing it in twenty seven minutes. 112 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: It's just it's insane. 113 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this is o tawny where you look at 114 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman and you're like, that's a Hall of Famer man. 115 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: Is he one dimensional compared to Otwi. 116 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: So. Fernando Mendoza had his pro day yesterday. It's gonna 117 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: be the number one pick Raiders and he was literally perfect, 118 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: but it's not completing passes. I saw Lewis Riddick and 119 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: a couple others on the internet to about this. He 120 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: literally announced the routes his receivers would be running before 121 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: because he wanted to make sure that all his receivers 122 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: were showing to the NFL scouts. They know how to 123 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: run the route tree and I'm gonna He literally told everybody, Kay, 124 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: this is what we're going to do on this play 125 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: because he was so self aware and wanted to ensure 126 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: that he didn't get all the love that people there saw. 127 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: How great as wide receivers were, folks, you were looking. 128 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: At Peyton Manning. 129 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was big, smart, self aware and understood the 130 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: NFL game. Leadership is not cool. It's not cool. Leadership 131 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: is hard. First in the building, first out. Probably shouldn't 132 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: drink alcohol during the season. Absolutely, no parties. I'm sorry. 133 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: That's leadership. That's leadership. Watching more tape than any in 134 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: the building. Cam Newton was a huge talent, but I 135 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: always felt Cam was kind of concerned about how cool 136 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: it looked, like in the Super Bowl when the ball 137 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: was on the ground and Cam wouldn't dive to get it. 138 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: Leadership is always about one thing, winning. 139 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: Cam Newton liked to win well, and that ball's on 140 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: the ground, It's like, bro, what are you doing? Don't 141 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: worry about what you look like. A lot of people 142 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: want to be quarterback. They love being quarterback, but do 143 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: you love being quarterback? Because it's about winning and doing 144 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: everything it takes to be a winner, which is giving 145 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: teammates credibility, which is telling scouts this is the routes 146 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: we're going to be I want you to watch this 147 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: guy in the route we're going to be running. 148 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: No, bro, they came for you. 149 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: And there's been a lot of quarterbacks Kyler, Murray, you know, 150 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: I could add the list. You know, Jay Cutler was 151 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: a guy like, dude, stop being cool. 152 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 3: Stop worrying about being cool. Are you about winning? 153 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: Not about what the image of quarterback is, but what 154 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: the reality of it is, and sometimes the reality of 155 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: it is cringey. 156 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: I love Sam Darnald. 157 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: Sam Darnald was twenty in New York City, small town 158 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: kid in California. He was not ready for New York. 159 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: Sam and I love Sam, and Sam's a mature guy. 160 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: But Sam would acknowledge to you I wasn't ready for it. 161 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: I was twenty years old. It was the big city, 162 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: it was New York, and there are significant sacrifices you 163 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: have to make as a quarterback. And there's just certain 164 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: guys that come into this league. I have said before, 165 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: the hat on backwards thing. I could care less if 166 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: you're a wide receiver, a safety, a mic linebacker, a guard, 167 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: a tight end. 168 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: I don't care. I do not care. 169 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: But if you're a quarterback on Wednesday and you're representing 170 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: a franchise and behind you is the bank sponsor, turn 171 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: that puppy around. You don't want to look like a 172 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: guy that's been paid to move my couch. Okay, look 173 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: like a franchise quarterback. You're gonna be the highest paid guy 174 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: on the team. And a lot of people are saying 175 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: this guy is a little cringey, and he's not cool, 176 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: and he's a little he's Peyton Manning. He's exactly what 177 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: I want. Here's land Zerline NFL dot com. 178 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 5: What you see is what you get with Fernando Mendoza. 179 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 5: There's no real heirs. I hear people talk about he's 180 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 5: kind of corny, he's this or that. I like guys 181 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 5: who throw touchdowns and don't throw interceptions, and who throw 182 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 5: it the accuracy and who are six foot five, two 183 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 5: hundred and thirty six plus pounds. 184 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: That's just me. 185 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 5: So you can keep your corny this at and you 186 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 5: can keep your cool quarterbacks. I'll keep guys who throw 187 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 5: touchdowns and don't give it away in the in the 188 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 5: red zone. 189 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 6: It was thirty nine touchdowns no. 190 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 5: Interceptions in the red zone over the last two years. 191 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 5: I mean, and that's in one of those years is 192 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 5: a cow that's pretty impressive. 193 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: You know what, I've never bought ever in my life 194 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: a jersey of a pro athlete, and you'll never once 195 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: in my life. I'm gonna buy a Mendoza jersey. In fact, 196 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy twenty of them and try to get 197 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: one autographed. I'm gonna have them all over my house. 198 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: And when my wife comes up and says that's not cool, 199 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, hey, so the leadership's about. I'm gonna 200 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: have one in the kitchen. I'm gonna have one in 201 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have one of my podcast room, in the 202 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: bathroom'ma have Mendozah jerseys all over my house. 203 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: I know it's not cool. I know it's cringey. I'm 204 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: telling you right now. 205 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: All these NFL scouts they keep telling me the things 206 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: they don't like this kid. I know it's the Raiders 207 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: and they have no culture. The second they draft him, 208 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: the Raiders have a culture. I don't care who the 209 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: coach is, I don't care who the GM is I 210 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: don't care who the owner is the second he enters 211 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: the building. You have a culture that is a franchise quarterback. 212 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: Between Wemby and Fernando Mendoza, I made buy two jersey. 213 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: I've never once in my life bought a jersey from 214 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: an athlete. I'm getting close, j MC. I know you 215 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: got about thirty of them, all Lakers. 216 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 7: The last thing I got was Austin Reeves. But yeah, 217 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 7: I do love a good jersey. I'm with you on Mendoza. 218 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 7: Do you remember how I don't remember who came on 219 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 7: the show and said it, but I never forget what 220 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 7: he said. You want your quarterback to be an alpha. 221 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 7: When a group of guys are hanging out together, who's driving? 222 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 7: I got the keys, I got this, that's your quarterback. 223 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 7: I forget who said that analogy, but that was funny 224 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 7: and I remembered it. And that's who you want to 225 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 7: be your quarterback, the alpha, get the leader of the crew. 226 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 7: I don't know that Mendoza is the guy who's going 227 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 7: to be driving, but he definitely has all the qualities 228 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 7: I want in a leader. As you articulated just now, 229 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 7: I'm a big Mendoza guy. 230 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he did look at the Pro day, you 231 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: can see that dude is he's shacked up. I mean, 232 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: he's a big human being. And the Greiders offensive line 233 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: last year was a mess. So I think they've upgraded 234 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: the interior all line of Colton Miller's healthy. You know, 235 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: they've got a ton of picks. They got four fourth 236 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: round picks and two fives and two six's. They need 237 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: to get that offensive line fixed. I've always said in 238 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: the NFL, the first two things you gotta do after 239 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: you get the coach, got to get the quarterback. And 240 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: then the insurance policy for your number one asset is 241 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: your offensive line. Don't worry about weapons, don't worry about 242 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: edge rushers, don't worry about corners, get the quarterback, protect 243 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: the quarterback. That's what the Colts with Andrew Luck never 244 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: figured out. It's what Sean Payton with bow Nicks went 245 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: and got a right tackle. Sean Payton got and weapons 246 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: a right tackle, started rolling the pocket out. That's what 247 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams first year in Detroit eber flus and the 248 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: guys didn't get it. Ben Johnson first thing in guard center, 249 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: guard elite, get you get the star. It's not about 250 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: getting no weapons, you have to buy an insurance policy 251 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: when you buy a house. When you draft a quarterback, 252 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: your insurance policy is that is that O line in front? 253 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: So I can't wait for the Raiders draft. We got 254 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff today. The other thing is there's 255 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: a story on Pooka Nakua, which we had talked about 256 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: last week. Stuff was going to come out. Also, some 257 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: people are dogging Wemby because he wants the MVP. 258 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: It's so refreshing. I love that he wants the MVP. Next, 259 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: it's the Hurt. 260 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 261 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: and noon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 262 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeart Radio app. 263 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 6: Hey it's me Rob Parker. 264 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 8: Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker, for 265 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 8: twenty two minutes of pipe in hop baseball talk, featuring 266 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 8: the biggest names and newsmakers in the sport. Whether you 267 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 8: believe in analytics or the I test, We've got all 268 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 8: the bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, So do 269 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 8: yourself a favor and listen to Inside the Parker with 270 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 8: Rob Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get 271 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 8: your podcast. 272 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: You're now and andrewing the no bull zone sponsored by 273 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: Credible Great Rage, none of the bull and Edwards said, 274 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in being face of the league. 275 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: Ja Moran not mature enough. 276 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, as I said years ago, doesn't have the aura. 277 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: Wemby wants to be the face of the league and 278 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: wants to be MVP, and I find his honesty completely 279 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: and utterly refreshing. Every actor in Hollywood during award system 280 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: wants to win and is deeply insecure if one of 281 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: their same age rivals wins instead. I don't think Timothy 282 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: Shallomey was rooting for Michael B. Jordan now Leonardo DiCaprio 283 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: may be because he's more accomplished, but when you're young 284 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: and ascending and building your brand and your resume yet 285 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: matters and should and I want my athletes to care. 286 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: Just be honest about it. You know, in Hollywood during 287 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: the Oscars and they put four or five faces on 288 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: the screen, and everybody tries to act happy when they 289 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: don't win. 290 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: Congratulations rival. 291 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: Actor Wendy's like, now, I want to win badly and 292 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: I love that. Now, after he wins his eighth, maybe 293 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: the ninth won't matter, but right now it does, and 294 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: here he is. 295 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 9: I do care deeply about it, and I think that 296 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 9: all the great you know that are in the Hall 297 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 9: of Fame or that are in our mind the best 298 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 9: of all time, they have fought and grabbed everything they 299 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 9: could grab early on in their career, you know. And 300 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 9: if I want to make my spot among the grades, 301 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 9: I gotta try to not need any occasion to have 302 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 9: to put my name up there. 303 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, one of the reasons Lebron gets knocked 304 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: that he's not mj He got swept in the finals 305 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: his first one. You really build your career much earlier 306 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: than you think. If Lebron would have carried them to 307 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: a win over the Spurs instead of being swept, wouldn't 308 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: it feel different today? 309 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: Just a little different. I mean, Jordan Jordan. 310 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: Six for six, Magic Johnson got to thirty percent more finals, 311 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: but Jordan won all of them. 312 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: Like it all matters. The MVPs matter. 313 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: When you're young and you're growing and you're building this 314 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: brand and resume. So I love that Fernando Mendoza is 315 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: willing to be a little odd and cringey. I love that, 316 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: and I love that Wemby deeply cares about winning the MVP. 317 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: That's that's the jersey I'm gonna buy. You buy the 318 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: cool guy. 319 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 320 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: and noon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 321 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 322 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: Well, Steph Curry's been the face. 323 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: Of the NBA, or at least shared, it feels like, 324 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: for fifteen years. And much like Wemby, it's ironic they 325 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: played last night. Much like Wemby is that when players 326 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: come into the game, when Magic Johnson was a six 327 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: to eight and a half point guard, it's like, well, 328 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: haven't seen that before, and it just changed the way pacing, 329 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: in the way you matched up. And when Steph Curry 330 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: came in, Michael Jordan was great, but we'd seen versions 331 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 1: of Michael Jordan. David Thompson was a version of Michael. 332 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: Later Kobe was a version of Michael. There was no 333 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: Steph and there is no Wemby. Sometimes you forget the 334 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: dad could play a little. Dell Curry, who's now the analyst, 335 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: the TV analyst for the Hornets, is now joining us live. 336 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: Been a great year for that team. So first of all, congratulations, 337 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: we got video. Most games played second points, I think 338 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: people sometimes forget del Curry. 339 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: I remember it well. 340 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: You were one of the first guys whose number one 341 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: shot was a long range jumper. 342 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: But it's interesting, Dell. 343 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: Back when you were shooting them, sometimes you'd hear a 344 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: coach say, no, don't do that. Do you remember when 345 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,239 Speaker 1: you started kind of mastering the long range shot. It 346 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: wasn't as accepted in your prime as it is today. 347 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, no doubt. 348 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 10: It was much more of a specialty kind of item 349 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 10: or player. Back in the day, we had so many 350 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 10: dominant centers. The game was played inside out and got 351 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 10: the ball inside. 352 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 6: So if you had a couple of guys like myself. 353 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 10: That could stress the floor, you'd post the center up 354 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 10: on that side there in the go help. But I 355 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 10: was a specialty guy. That's why I've played in the 356 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 10: league sixteen years. I could put the ball in the 357 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 10: whole from range. 358 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 359 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 10: And I look back at the film's sessions of me playing, 360 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 10: and back in everything was played inside the three. Yeah, 361 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 10: you know, we take we take two, three, four, maybe 362 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 10: five a game. 363 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 7: Uh. 364 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 10: And if you better hit a couple of them or 365 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 10: your time is going to be limited the next night. 366 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: That is funny. 367 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 7: Uh. 368 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: Well, good for you. You got your jersey retired again. 369 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: Most minutes, second, most points. 370 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: When you know. 371 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: One of the things I've said a lot of times, 372 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: I can tell Fernando Mendoza, the quarterback in Indiana, I said, 373 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: I can tell you has good parents. I just he's 374 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: a he's shared leadership. One of the things I've always 375 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: said about Steph Curry is I don't need to know 376 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: his parents. I know, Dell, I know of you, but 377 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: I said, they're there. When you're part of a dynasty, 378 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: everybody thinks it's easy. But you got the Draymond factor, 379 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: and you got intense Steve Kerr and then here comes 380 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and people look at Steff and think, oh, just. 381 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: Been easy street. 382 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, when you're winning, there's a lot 383 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: of mouse to feed. You get the truth behind the dynasty. 384 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: Have there been moments, a weak stretches where you saw 385 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: the stress of being the face of a dominant franchise. 386 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 10: Without a doubt. I think that comes with the territory. 387 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 10: He understands that. And when you win one, you win two. 388 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 10: Now your fan base, your organization and you expect to repeat. 389 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 10: And that's so hard to do when you're the landscape. 390 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 10: You're the face of the league. 391 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 6: It's been a lot on it, no doubt, it's. 392 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 10: Been a stressful, you know, seventeen years at some points. 393 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 6: But he wouldn't trade one bit of it for the rings. 394 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 10: That he has, a couple of MVPs, the leadership, what 395 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 10: he's done for not only the NBA, but for the 396 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 10: Warriors franchise as a whole. 397 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 6: I mean, that's part of it. I think him being 398 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 6: around the. 399 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 10: Game and seeing it on some level as a young 400 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 10: age prepared him for what was to come. But being 401 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 10: a leader in a old championship locker room, there's no experience. 402 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 10: You cannot you don't know what that's going to be 403 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 10: like from year to year, from day to day, from 404 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 10: week to week. But he's handled it tremendously. I think 405 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 10: being around the game early has helped him play a 406 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 10: part in that. 407 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 3: It's interesting. 408 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: He couldn't have a more divergent personality from Draymon, but 409 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: I always think they just work well together. I mean, 410 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: did you ever have a teammate that was feisty and 411 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: a tough guy? I mean it just his eat. He's 412 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: a smart kid. He's obviously got a high IQ, but 413 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: Steph's e Q is high. I mean, Draymond can rub 414 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: people the wrong way, and I always feel like I 415 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: almost feel like Draymond and Steph have been the soul 416 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: of the franchise, not Clay love Him, not Durant, not 417 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: even Kerr. Was it immediate for Stephan Draymond? Like it 418 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: just it worked. 419 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 10: I think you really had to find out the temperament 420 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 10: of both guys. They were young when they started, uh, 421 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 10: and then you saw their their attitude the relationship grow. 422 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: So it was. 423 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 10: Something that like any relationship, it's gotta it's got to grow, 424 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 10: it's gotta nurture. 425 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 6: You got to fill out each other. 426 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 10: And find out what what what's the makeup of each person. 427 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 6: But every I think every. 428 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 10: Championship team has those two type guys. A guy who 429 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 10: can handle things on the floor and the locker room 430 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 10: is very calm uh but but tremendously competitive on the floor. 431 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 6: Then you got to have a guy that's kind of out. 432 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 10: Of control that the coach has a hard time with, 433 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 10: that's going to do things his way. I had teammates 434 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 10: like that. I think of Charles Barkley, I think of 435 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 10: Anthony Mason. Yeah, those type guys with fire, fiery guys 436 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 10: on the floor, nicest guys off the floor. But you 437 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 10: wouldn't want anybody else as a teammate to go to. 438 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 6: War with you. 439 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's let's be honest. 440 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: Best team ever could be Jordan they had Rodman, first 441 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: or second, best team ever Steph Kadie Warriors they had Draymond. 442 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: I always say, a beautiful, aesthetically beautiful team has got 443 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: to have a bouncer, somebody at the door, Somebody make 444 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: sure everybody knows, don't mess around in here, don't touch 445 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: our star, don't grab our star. You see it in hockey, 446 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: you see it in basketball. 447 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 3: The game. 448 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: Now, what's so great about basketball is that in pro 449 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: football you know this, Dell, is that you go to 450 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: college for three or four years. There's hard coaching. It's 451 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: not about AU. It's a hard high school coach. It's 452 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: a hard college coach. You come into the NFL. You're 453 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: kind of ready to perform basketball. You go from AAU 454 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: maybe Europe. You get one year of college maybe then 455 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: you're a pro. You can't even get into the hotel bar. Okay, 456 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: so now you come in yet some of these guys 457 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: con Kinnipple for you guys, You're like, how's he this good? 458 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: This fast? Like it's crazy. Some guys come into this 459 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: league and you just can't believe how good they are. 460 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: You guys have one now with your team. What do 461 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: you make of his ascension? 462 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 10: He's such a mature He's one of the most mature 463 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 10: twenty year olds that I've ever been around. Steph coming 464 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 10: into his rookie year hit cor mcghetty's thanks Steven Jackson. 465 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 10: Monte Ellis Ken coming into the Hornets totally different locker room. 466 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 10: He sets the tone as a rookie. It's a lot 467 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 10: of pressure to put on a rookie to change the culture, 468 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 10: to set the tone. But he's such a mature guy. 469 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 10: He is so focused on his task. That's all he's 470 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 10: worried about. Eat, sleeps, preparing himself for that game, for 471 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 10: the next game. 472 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 6: Low maintenance. 473 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 10: He has a skill set that's beyond rookies. Not only 474 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 10: just shoot the basketball. He'll have nice where he doesn't 475 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 10: shoot it well, but he affects the game so many 476 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 10: other areas. He could rebound the basketball. He's very underrated defensively, playmaker, 477 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 10: he'll mix it up. 478 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 6: If he has two older five boys. 479 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 10: He's such a trendsetter in today's NBA. And we've got 480 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 10: three other rookies as well that that go along with him. 481 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 10: So Jeff Peters to the front office. 482 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 6: They got it right. 483 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 10: When you can, you can, you know, kind of tell 484 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 10: the guy has talent, but you really don't know what 485 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 10: he's going to be until you get him in your building. 486 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 6: Yep. 487 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 10: But this guy, this guy is beyond anything anybody could 488 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 10: have imagined. 489 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna throw something matcha. I like three pointers, 490 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: but I do think it can get repetitive, and I 491 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: don't want wemby shooting that many. I like the mid 492 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: range game. You can shoot him, your son can shoot him. 493 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: Everybody's got three or four guys that can shoot him. 494 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: But I think the game, I think baseball has done 495 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: a lot of good tweaking. I mean good golf can tweak, 496 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: Tennis can tweak. I'm gonna throw this out. I've said before, 497 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: I think thirty threes a game is fine. Eighty eight 498 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,479 Speaker 1: is repetitive and homogeneous. My theory has always been I 499 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: like collisions at the rim. I like people attacking. I 500 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: would take the three point shot and I would move 501 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: it into the bench. Get rid of the corner three, 502 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: so biggs don't have to chase down corner threes because 503 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: it's impossible to stay in front of guards anyway, Delle, 504 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: because you can't hand check them. So it's just too 505 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: many guards getting past defenders going to the rim. I 506 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: want them to meet Redwoods at the Iron. I want 507 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: that when Lebron had to meet Remember when Lebron struggled 508 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: against who is the Georgetown guy for the Indiana Pacers, 509 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: Roy Hibbert struggled against Roy Hibbert, And it's like, you 510 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: got to have a league where Roy Hibbert can play 511 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: good guy. I want a league that Roy can play 512 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: get rid of the corner three. Okay, that wouldn't be 513 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: good for Steph. So you probably hate this, don't. 514 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 6: You absolutely hate it? I think you have to adapt 515 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 6: as a team. You have to have a guy that 516 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 6: a center position that can do his best. 517 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 10: Staying in front of those guards. We have one on 518 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 10: the horse right now. I'll tell you what in Musa 519 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 10: Debt does a great job for seeing Mobley right here. 520 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 6: You got to have big guys to do that. You 521 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 6: have to adapt. 522 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 10: That's part of front office, the GM. You got to 523 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 10: bring fine guys. This's to to help your team, treak 524 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 10: your team. You know you're not gonna get rid of 525 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 10: the corner three. I like your idea of collisions at 526 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 10: the rim that's been lost. But you have to have 527 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 10: big guys now that could shoot the three, but do 528 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 10: their best at staying in front of the guard at 529 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 10: least funneling them to where the help's going to be. 530 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 10: All that is is ingredients in winning, and the quarter 531 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 10: of three is gonna always be there. 532 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 3: You know, I'm in my sixties now. I don't want 533 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: to adapt. I like what I like, me too, Me too, Okay, Wemby, 534 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: I said this earlier. Is that I mean they call 535 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: him the alien in the league. 536 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: It's you. I hear people say this all the time. 537 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: I watch them, but I've never seen him in person. 538 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 3: You know. 539 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: It's like when you see him in person, you're like, 540 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: he towers over six eight and a half guys. What 541 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: last night he's playing the Warriors. He puts up All 542 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: Star games with eight minutes left in the second quarter. 543 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: Do you have any comp for him? Have you ever 544 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: seen anything like this? 545 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 10: No, the Coump used to be as physical on his 546 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 10: lower body as possible. I think the Spurs has done 547 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 10: a great job of getting him stronger so he can. 548 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 6: Go against that attack. 549 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 10: Obviously, you want to keep him away from the basket 550 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 10: on both ends as much as possible. 551 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 6: But the guys shooting threes, now he's not going to 552 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 6: block a shot. I don't know how you. 553 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 10: Defend him without sending multiple guys at him. And now 554 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 10: they have enough talent around him that he is an 555 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 10: underrated passer. I've done a couple of games of his 556 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 10: on Prime where you run a play for him as 557 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 10: a decoy and he's the passer. 558 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 6: This guy's a total package. Look at one dribble. He's 559 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 6: at the rim, covers. 560 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 10: So much space, and just like I talked about Cohn, 561 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 10: if women's not having great offensive night, which is very rare, 562 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,479 Speaker 10: he affects the game. 563 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 6: He can win you a game on the defensive end. 564 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 10: So great talent facing the league he's going to be 565 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 10: if he's not already first time starting the All Star Game, 566 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 10: and I think he's seriously just getting started to how 567 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 10: good and how dominant he can be on both ends. 568 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 6: He seems like a guy that is in love with 569 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 6: the game as well. 570 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 10: You got a young guy with that much talent, that 571 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 10: much hunger to be the best that he can be 572 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 10: and to help his teammate. His teammates be the best 573 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 10: that they can be in the franchise. Sky's a limit 574 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 10: for the Spurs as long as that guy stays healthy. 575 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: Okay, got one final question. You know, step can golf. 576 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: You're a great golfer, so I'm not going to count 577 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: anything off the tee. He's the younger guy. It's probably 578 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: a little longer off the tea than you. But if 579 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: you're a but if you're one hundred and forty yards 580 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: out and you both grab an eight iron, who's a 581 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: better golfer. 582 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 6: He is? 583 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 10: But one hundred and forty yards out. I'm hitting the 584 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 10: pitching whereas he's gapping it. He's hitting the gap wedge. 585 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 6: I practice a lot more than he does. 586 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 10: But he's got such a great touch around the greens. 587 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 10: And a young guy thinks he can make everything that 588 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 10: he stands over. 589 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 6: But that's what handicaps are. 590 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: Four. 591 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 10: We have great. Our summers are great. We take a 592 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 10: couple of golf trips a year. Seth has it much improved. 593 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 10: Golfer got to sun in a lot of the plays. 594 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 10: We got a good group. We travel a year, so 595 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 10: we talked more about golf down than basketballs steps. You know, 596 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 10: seventeen years thirty eight sets, twelve years, thirty five years old. 597 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 10: Our golf communication and text thread is over the top. 598 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's show the they retired as Jersey. I 599 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: want to go show that video again, because I mean, 600 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: you're fired up here. A lot of guys pretend like 601 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: they don't care. 602 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: You're like, hell of that. 603 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: I loving this man, You're pumping your fist. They got 604 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: the fireworks go. That was a great night, wasn't that? 605 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 6: It was a great night. This is a good couple 606 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 6: of days. 607 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 10: We had a little intimate dinner on the Wednesday before 608 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 10: the Hornets organization. 609 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 6: When they told me this was happening. A lot of 610 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 6: emotions going on. 611 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 10: I couldn't believe it, but I was looking had so 612 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 10: much time to prepare for this night. The boys were 613 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 10: able to get in, they were on the East coast trip, 614 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 10: they able to fly in. 615 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 6: It was a great night. I didn't want to ruin 616 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 6: it anyway. 617 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 10: I wanted to slow down so I could soak up, 618 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 10: you know, everything that was happening. But it's still surreal 619 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 10: for me to walk in the Spectrum Center, look up 620 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 10: and see number thirty carry up in the stands. 621 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 6: You know, I played this game like my boys, because 622 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 6: of the fun of it, because we loved it, fortunate 623 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 6: enough to make a living out of it. And now 624 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 6: I'm still. 625 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 10: Here in the Hornet's organization, calling games, helping the guys 626 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 10: I love going to practice, still talking basketball, helping these 627 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 10: young guys. 628 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 6: Any way I can. 629 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 10: So for me to be with this organization for almost 630 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 10: three decades and now to get my jersey retired after 631 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 10: twenty four years of being retired as a player, all 632 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 10: I've done in the community and as an ambassador for 633 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 10: this team, I can't tell you how happy I am, 634 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 10: how proud I am, how grateful, but also how humble 635 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 10: I am. 636 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 6: To know this is a big deal not only for 637 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 6: the Hornets. 638 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 10: Organization, but the city of Charlotte, and I'm happy to 639 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 10: represent that. 640 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 6: You're great. 641 00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: Well, I just looked at this. 642 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: The Hornets of nineteen ninety three with one Dell Curry 643 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: shot eleven. 644 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 3: Three is a game. 645 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: This year they're averaging forty three. 646 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 6: Oh wow, it's. 647 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 10: The wild world we live in now average they're averaging 648 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 10: sixteen makes a game, you know, So yeah, it's a 649 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 10: wild world. 650 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 6: Man. I'm not one of these old guys. That's gonna say. 651 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 10: I wish I was playing back today, but I think 652 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 10: my game would fit in perfectly with how Yeah, today's 653 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 10: game is the NBA is played, but I love watching 654 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 10: the game. It's entertaining. The league is a lot of 655 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 10: good young players. 656 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 6: I think the league is in a healthy spot. 657 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Great, great seeing you again. Congrats, Thanks all, thanks 658 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: for having me.