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Speaker 1: Here's the show. Hello Texans, and welcome into the Hunday

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio studio. We are right across the hall from

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Speaker 1: the locker room here at NRG Stadium, and I'm Mark vandermer.

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Speaker 1: Tonight it's Thursday, that means the general pays a visit.

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Speaker 1: And it's our first time in what three weeks job

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Speaker 1: to have you visiting you. Yeah, well, I've missed you.

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Speaker 1: I mean we haven't had a chance to talk football

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Speaker 1: in the year. Merry Christmas tis the season. My six

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Speaker 1: here we are in the season, and it's an exciting

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Speaker 1: in the regular season. But it all starts Sunday with

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos and a follow up to the performance

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Speaker 1: against the Patriots. Of course, all the players, coaches, everybody

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Speaker 1: asked about the letdown effect here. I don't really see

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Speaker 1: it happening, but you never know. John Denver is a

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Speaker 1: better team than you think. Like Bill O'Brien said, you

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Speaker 1: put on the tape, it's a pretty good defense. They

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Speaker 1: should be ready, but who knows. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I got a rookie quarterback making his seconds start. Romeo

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Speaker 1: then only lost with Jacobe Brisette in that primetime game

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Speaker 1: of the last eight games the Patriots have played that

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Speaker 1: eight opponents to beat the Patriots, they're one in seven

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Speaker 1: combined the week after and the only win during that

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Speaker 1: the game. And I really thought John and we haven't

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Speaker 1: I think they're all quarterback games down the stretch here,

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Speaker 1: But yes, Brady looked off target, but he had Dorset,

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Speaker 1: Jacob Martin, where do you think this goes from here?

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Speaker 1: In those other six games he started, they're averaging twenty

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Speaker 1: nine and six. Derry Henry's averaging one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: yard game a rushing over the last three games. I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna steamroll the Raiders to tune up for

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Speaker 1: the Texans. Steamroll the Raiders, flatten them like a roller

433
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Speaker 1: out there on the Augustat's fault on my team, all right,

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Speaker 1: So you're really impressed with what they've been able to

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Speaker 1: do lately. His rating has been one hundred and twenty five.

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Speaker 1: This would before I think he'd be the second quarterback

437
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Speaker 1: in history to have one hundred and twenty five four

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Speaker 1: games in a row. I think Gil Brandt tweeted that,

439
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: and he's playing for new contract. They're going to sign

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Speaker 1: him to a long term deal. I fully below. Well,

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Speaker 1: no matter what happens this weekend, next weekend is absolutely

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Speaker 1: huge as you go back in the division and take

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Speaker 1: on the Titans. And this is what Texans Titan games

444
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Speaker 1: should be. They should have a lot on the line.

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Speaker 1: And the schedule makers are looking like geniuses all of

446
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Speaker 1: a sudden that these two teams are vying for the

447
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Speaker 1: title down the stretch. I think it's gonna come down

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Speaker 1: to the last game here. The winner is gonna win

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Speaker 1: the title and the loser is going to be a wildcard,

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Speaker 1: and the loser is gonna play again. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: three games in four weeks. Can you ever remember that happening? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Did Miami and the Jets ever pull something like that?

453
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Speaker 1: I'm sure, Okay, I don't know. If it happens, we'll know,

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Speaker 1: But it would just be so weird to see NFL

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Speaker 1: teams played three times in four weeks, or a Dallas

456
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Speaker 1: Washington or something like that. Yeah, I look, I don't

457
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: even think it's right to schedule an opponent two weeks apart,

458
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Speaker 1: like the Texans and the Titans have to get to go,

459
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Speaker 1: and they don't like it. Rabel didn't like it, John Robinson,

460
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: the Texans didn't like it. Now the fans and media

461
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Speaker 1: love it all right. So the cults are at the

462
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Speaker 1: Buccaneers trying to hang as Colts get back Marlon mack Uh.

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Speaker 1: They signed Uh the kicker who was cut from Houston,

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Speaker 1: who was cut by the forty nine ers, McLaughlin Chase

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Speaker 1: as game, Chase McLaughlin because Vinitary's hurt. What a way

466
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Speaker 1: for Adam Vinitary to go out on his way to

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Speaker 1: Katon And I think Tampa, which is a prolific offense,

468
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Speaker 1: but Winston has more turnovers need any in the league,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be tough covering Mike kid Onsa and

470
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Speaker 1: is a Godwin or a good Goodwin the other receiver,

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Speaker 1: Chris Godwin. And I think Tampa's gonna win that game.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bucks are gonna finish strong and probably

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Speaker 1: keep Jameis Winston while Marcus Mariotta we're being looking for

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Speaker 1: a new address. Interesting Texans have a big one at

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay on a Saturday, right before Christmas. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: like this one. The Ravens at the Bills. What do

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Speaker 1: you think here are the Bills gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: get it done? In Western New York? The Bills have

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Speaker 1: beaten one team or the winning record and it's Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: and right now their mediocre. So I think Baltimore's defense

481
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Speaker 1: will do a great job against Josh Allen. I think

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's defense will do well against Lamar Jackson. He won't

483
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Speaker 1: put thirty or forty on, but I'm not picking against

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Speaker 1: the Ravens and Jackson again, he's gonna be the MVP,

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Speaker 1: all right, So you don't think there's any doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: What about Russell Wilson sneaking into the equation? By the way,

487
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Speaker 1: they're at the Rams on Sunday? Your thoughts on that one?

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Speaker 1: The Seattle and Russell Wilson, even though the Rams bounced

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Speaker 1: back in a big way. But keep this in mind,

490
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Speaker 1: what's more important than head to hit if it's close

491
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Speaker 1: head to hit. The Ravens went to Seattle and won,

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Speaker 1: And to me, Russell Wilson is great, but he and yes,

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Speaker 1: he uses his legs some, but Jackson's doing things with

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Speaker 1: his legs. No quarterbacks ever done. He leads the league

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Speaker 1: in touchdown passes. He's got a great rating. Lamar Jackson,

496
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Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes, going to be MVP the second year.

497
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Speaker 1: I can't believe this one wouldn't get flexed. But I

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Speaker 1: guess if you have the Giants and Eagles, actually no,

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Speaker 1: it's Seahawks and Rams, that's a pretty good game on

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night. But the forty nine Ers at the Saints,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a really nice one on the Marquis

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Speaker 1: poor l forty nine Ers. They've lost by three to

503
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks, by three to the Ravens, and now they

504
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Speaker 1: go to New York. Their schedule is just brutal, and

505
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Speaker 1: they end the season in Seattle, and so they can

506
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Speaker 1: end up with four or five losses. But I'm not

507
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Speaker 1: I never never pick against the Saints at home, and

508
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 1: they're too good all these decades, and I'm not picking now.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if the forty nine ers win,

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Speaker 1: But I'm going with the Saints. Very good, John, What

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Speaker 1: do you have going out of the Chronicle. Aaron Wilson

512
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Speaker 1: is writing Sunday about Bradley Roby going against his former

513
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Speaker 1: team and what a great game he had against the Patriots.

514
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Speaker 1: I'm writing about for Friday, romeocre nels record against rookie quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And I wrote today about Deshaun Watson is running less lately,

516
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: and he's throwing more and getting better results. And one

517
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: reason is he's getting better protections, comfortable in pocket. But

518
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Speaker 1: also he's got so many receivers to choose from. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a fun Sunday. And I got three words

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Speaker 1: to end this with Mark sick bears. Yes, go get

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Speaker 1: them Baylor. We talked to you about that on Monday

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Speaker 1: and looking forward to watching that one. John mcclaim from

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Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle joining us. All Right, if the Texans

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Speaker 1: score two or more touchdowns, and they did that in

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Speaker 1: the last couple of games, head to your closest Jack

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Speaker 1: in the box the next day for your free Texans

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Speaker 1: jumbo jack with a large drink purchase. Next up, John Harris,

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Speaker 1: let's do more Likely to Happen, MVP Talk, AFC Talk,

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Speaker 1: AFC South Talk. It's all happening here on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: We're just hanging out here on the Honday Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandamer joined now with my good buddy John Harris Johnny.

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Speaker 1: Here we go game weekend. Everybody's fired up. I'm really

533
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Speaker 1: excited about this one. Look, everybody's talking about letdown, not

534
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: everybody outside the building. They are. These players are fully focused.

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Speaker 1: You know when I say everybody, I don't mean them,

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Speaker 1: I mean you guys listening. I don't think it's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. I think that they're fully pumped up for

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00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: this thing, like I am. Well, I think we all

539
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: are to see this team at home. What can they

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00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: do building off of that? You want more? Yeah, there's

541
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Speaker 1: there's no question. And I just wonder if kind of

542
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: having a breakthrough win like that against that sort of

543
00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: team is sort of a lesson to these guys, as

544
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Speaker 1: if to say, you are that good, now go take

545
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Speaker 1: care of your business against a team that isn't that good. Well,

546
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Speaker 1: because you know who does take care of business like

547
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: that traditionally. But the team you just beat the team

548
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: because they get everybody's best game every week, doubt and

549
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: they know it. I mean every week. It's like, you

550
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: know who else is used to that? The Cowboys, even

551
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: though they're not really rising to the occasion on a

552
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: regular basis. And I don't know the mid nineties, really

553
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: having that sort of thing happened, that dynamic happened in

554
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: opposing stadiums. But it is a fact. All right, let's

555
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Speaker 1: get to this now because we have a lot of

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Speaker 1: them to get to. More likely to happen, more likely

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00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: to happen, Yes, more likely to happen. MVP winner, Lamar

558
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: Jackson or the field more likely to happen. I have

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00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: a lot of field questions this week. So is it

560
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson? You can pick him or you can pick

561
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Speaker 1: anybody else in a group. I do think Baltimore scheduled

562
00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: down the stretch is not excessively easy. But it is Buffalo.

563
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: That game is this weekend. Then it's Jets, Brown, Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I really don't see a team that can slow him down.

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Speaker 1: So even if the Bills, say the Bills win, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's it is, You're right, it's Western York. It

567
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: can it can be trouble. But I just don't see

568
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Speaker 1: any of those final four teams slowing him down to

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Speaker 1: a point where it erases what he's done, especially in November.

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Speaker 1: So I think Lamar is the MVP. He's such a

571
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Speaker 1: heavy favorite right now, you all, it's almost his and

572
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Speaker 1: he's gonna have to cough it up and give it

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Speaker 1: back to somebody. I don't think that's gonna happen. I

574
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Speaker 1: think it is his and I think Shoe Watson will

575
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: definitely get some run for that. He's got a few

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Speaker 1: games down the stretch that people will be paying attention to,

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Speaker 1: the Titans game in particular. And um, I think that

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Speaker 1: Lamar though has this thing. I think he's got it

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Speaker 1: wrapped up. Okay, I think it's wrapped up. All right,

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Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. More likely to win this week.

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Speaker 1: And the Patriots are the Ravens. Ravens in Buffalo, Patriots

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00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: are home to the Chiefs. So you got the Patriots

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Speaker 1: coming off a loss, desperate for a victory to keep

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Speaker 1: pace with the Ravens, hoping they lose. And the Buffalo

585
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: defense is no joke. And I think Josh Allen is

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00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: playing a whole lot better in this game. As far

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00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: as quarterbacks who run a lot combine yardage heading in

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00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: it's the most ever in an NFL matchup of opposing

589
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in rushing yardage combined in the history of the league.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of clunky, but you get my drift. I'm

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00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm going with favorites in both them. I think I

592
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Speaker 1: think the Patriots will. I think the Patriots will bounce

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Speaker 1: back at home. I know it's the Chiefs, and I

594
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: know the Chiefs are are healthy offensively, but the Patriots

595
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: have seen that group before. Now the Chiefs defense has

596
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Speaker 1: gotten better now, trust me, I want the Patriots to lose.

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Speaker 1: You do se Patricots put it best, He's like, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of win win because if the Chiefs lose, then

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Speaker 1: they fall to five losses and it just widens the

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Speaker 1: gap between three and four seed. Yeah, but I want

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Speaker 1: to go for the big prop. But I'm with you.

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00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: I do too, So I want I want the Patriots

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Speaker 1: to get a knocked go Chiefs, because if you lose,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you go couple down the stretch and

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Speaker 1: then where are you're really going? You know, you really

606
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Speaker 1: want to play well, Like you said, you want to

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Speaker 1: prove that not that you're worthy necessarily of beating the Pats,

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Speaker 1: but that you you're able to build on it. And

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00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: you want the Patriots to get inflicted with some damage here,

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00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: no doubt, so you can somehow take over that spot

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00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: for a buy. But I just think the favorites winner.

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Speaker 1: I think the Patriots will bounce back at home. Jillett's

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Speaker 1: the best security blanket any team can have. They just

614
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Speaker 1: love playing up there. And the Chiefs one up there

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Speaker 1: in seventeen, but they played a close game in eighteen

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Speaker 1: with a forty three to forty kind of games. So

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs have played well up there. But I think

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Speaker 1: the Patriots and win. I just think the Ravens right now,

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Speaker 1: they're groove. If they get halfway decent weather at least

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Speaker 1: not raining or snow, I think Lamar will do what

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Speaker 1: he wants to. Here's the thing. The Patriots can't stop

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I don't think they can. I think it

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Speaker 1: slow him down. I think the Patriots are going to

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Speaker 1: have legit problem scoring. I just doo. But even at

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Speaker 1: hop there, I just I just don't they find a

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Speaker 1: way to put it together. I just would go with

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Speaker 1: I would go with chalking both of those. Okay, next

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Speaker 1: one to happen more likely to be the head coach

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Speaker 1: in Dallas in twenty twenty, Lincoln Riley or the field

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley or anybody else. Well, here's an interesting dynamic

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Speaker 1: in this. Uh Stephen Jones, the son of Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 1: who is kind of Jerry's right hand man kind of

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Speaker 1: does all the personnel stuff. I mean, Stevens, he is

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Speaker 1: the Jones most most involved. That's not Jerry, right. Stephen's son,

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Speaker 1: John Stephen Jones was the quarterback at Hivan Park. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Lincoln tried to recruit him to go to Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: And so Lincoln's got a relationship with the Jones family

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Speaker 1: already based on the recruiting he had to do. Now,

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Speaker 1: John Paul Jones end up going to Arkansas following footsteps

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Speaker 1: of Grandpa Jerry Jones who went to Arkansas and played

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Speaker 1: at Arkansas. So he ended up at Arkansas. And but

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Speaker 1: Lincoln had that relationship with the Jones family. So I

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Speaker 1: would think the Jones family will do whatever possible to

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Speaker 1: get Lincoln to Dallas. And I think here's the way

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Speaker 1: I look at Dallas is that the coach that's got

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Speaker 1: to take that job has got to be one of

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Speaker 1: those that just says, you know what, I just just

648
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Speaker 1: let me coach man, just let me, let me call

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Speaker 1: him the ball plays, let me do that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: I know Jerry's gonna pick the players he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: be good players. They're gonna be fine. Will McClay, who

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Speaker 1: works on a Jared. They're gonna give me good players,

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Speaker 1: and I'm worried about that. Just let me coach the

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Speaker 1: ball plays. And I don't know if Lincoln is that

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Speaker 1: guy yet or not. I think he's kind of too

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Speaker 1: too young in his evolution as a coach. But I

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Speaker 1: think when you're a college coach and you're running everything,

658
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Speaker 1: I think it's very difficult to step back and go, okay, coach.

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Speaker 1: Everything else is handled it but wait, I want my

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Speaker 1: no, no no, no, Everything else is handled like it sounds great,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think it is. So I'm gonna got

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Speaker 1: the field. Boy, you just get the feeling. Jerry knows

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Speaker 1: this very well how his model might not be popular

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Speaker 1: with a lot of prime candidates. So I think I

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00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: think that's the problem that they're running into, because my

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00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: guess is that people know that job is open, but

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Speaker 1: than it is now. I think, yeah, here's one for you.

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Speaker 1: Washington's gonna be open and Dallas is gonna be open.

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Speaker 1: Which job if you're a hot young coach, which job

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Speaker 1: would you want to have? Dallas or Washington? I mean,

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Speaker 1: unless they're gonna fire Bruce Allen and I get total

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Speaker 1: control over everything. In my contract, I get to pick everything.

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Speaker 1: You don't pick the owner. Yeah. But if I have

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Speaker 1: a contract that's ironclad that I have final say over

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Speaker 1: personnel and all of it, Yeah, then I'll go ahead

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Speaker 1: and take that Washington job as opposed to getting my

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00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: players picked for me, although the Dallas roster next year

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Speaker 1: should be pretty darn good as well. But you know

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Speaker 1: as well as anybody that Bruce aunis staying. So Bruce

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Speaker 1: Aunen stays. Weren't there some murmurs? They're murmurs, But I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen. I just think those are

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Speaker 1: two very interesting jobs from that standpoint, because you are

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Speaker 1: not going to have the personnel. Say that a lot

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Speaker 1: of head coaches end up having or wanting to have.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna got the field on that, I don't

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Speaker 1: think Lincoln Riley and I think that's a good pick

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Speaker 1: right there, all right. Next one more likely to happen,

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Speaker 1: all right, more likely to happen the quarterback for the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans in twenty twenty, Ryan Tannehill or the field. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Now this Tennessee scheduled down the stretch. If Ryan Tannehill

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Speaker 1: does what he's been doing, down the stretch. Yeah, Raiders, Texans,

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Speaker 1: Saints Texans. Let's just let's let's say Tannehill goes three

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Speaker 1: and one, right, three and one, A, that probably gets

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Speaker 1: him into playoffs, regardless of what we do, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Culture whatever. Three and one gets them in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: At ten and six, that would then have been I

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Speaker 1: think six out of seven down the stretch for Tannehill

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Speaker 1: if my math is correct. Maybe more than that. Oh yeah, yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I think it would be like eight out of ten

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Speaker 1: down the stretch if that's the case. So yeah, because

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Speaker 1: you have the one loss, that's that's pretty salty, and

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Speaker 1: I think that would be really really difficult for Mike

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Speaker 1: Rabel and that staff to go. Now, if I'm them,

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Speaker 1: I'm probably looking for I'm looking for my escape plan,

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Speaker 1: and that is, do I go get a seasoned veteran

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Speaker 1: to back him up, you know, kind of a I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Josh McCown type, or are you somebody at

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Speaker 1: that point? Or do I go get a young guy?

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Speaker 1: I draft a guy, draft a young guy, maybe not

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Speaker 1: in the first round, but a second round. I don't

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Speaker 1: even have taught to them. Here's my fear. Here's my fear.

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Speaker 1: My fear. What's your fear is that Tennessee's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we do want to draft a quarterback early,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna wait and we're gonna trade out of

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Speaker 1: our first round pick. We're gonna trade to the early

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Speaker 1: second round. And then all of a sudden, somehow Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love from Utah State is sitting there and a draft

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love, I will, I will break everything in this

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Speaker 1: studio if that happens. Oh, this is like Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: possibly falling to the Jags, and he did, but they

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Speaker 1: didn't take him. Now, Jordan Love is not as dynamic

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Speaker 1: as Lamar Jackson as a runner, but he's got a prospect.

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Speaker 1: But as a thrower. Yeah, yeah, that's the kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: Do not want to see, Tennessee. Oh you have thirty

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Speaker 1: seconds for this one? That role place of employment in

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Speaker 1: twenty twelve, Baylor or any other college or the National

727
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Speaker 1: Football League, going to the NFL or staying at Baylor

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Speaker 1: or staying in college. See I mean it. I think

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00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up in the NFL. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: He's gonna end up in the NFL. Okay, I hate

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Speaker 1: to say it. John mcclein. But he's gonna end up

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, Dad at all. There's gonna be enough

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Speaker 1: jobs open, and he's dabbled in the NFL enough. I

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna get where he wants in the NFL

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Speaker 1: and take it. Johnny, thanks a lot, Mark, thank you.

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Speaker 1: this now. Houston Methodist Minutes and today's injury rotator cuff problems.

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Speaker 1: My step mom has won. She just had surgery. I

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Speaker 1: want to get doctor Mark Lebey in here, and good evening.

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Speaker 1: Doctor tell me what happens with an athlete when they

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Speaker 1: get the rotator cuff injured and an athlete often you

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00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: see it an overhead activity. So throwers, NFL, quarterbacks, pitcher

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Speaker 1: actually also see it in volleyball players and swimmers. A

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Speaker 1: lot of overhead activity puts a lot of strain on

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Speaker 1: those muscles and tendons, and because of some of the

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Speaker 1: poor blood flow that can occur there, you develop small

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Speaker 1: tears that can get bigger over time. All right, So

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Speaker 1: what is exactly happening technically in Layman's terms, if you could,

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Speaker 1: when a rotator cuff injury occurs. So, what the rotator

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Speaker 1: cuff is is really a group of four muscles. We

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Speaker 1: think of the shoulders a ball and socker joint, and

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00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: the socket of the shoulders really shallow, so in order

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Speaker 1: for the ball to track properly, the rotator cuff is

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Speaker 1: four muscles that reach around the socket and kind of

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Speaker 1: hold onto the ballpark. So the way a muscle attaches

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Speaker 1: to a bone is with a tendon. So when the

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Speaker 1: tendons start to tear because of stress and strain and

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Speaker 1: poor blood slow that's where a rotator cuff tear and

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Speaker 1: injury is. It's injury to those tendants tearing away of

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Speaker 1: the tenants from the bone. All right, So my stepmother

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Speaker 1: had rotator cuff surgery recently. How would she get an

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Speaker 1: injury like this because she's not exactly an Olympian swimmer

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Speaker 1: or anything like that. Yeah. Actually, the majority of the

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Speaker 1: rotator cuf tiers that we see are degeneratives. So in

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Speaker 1: areas where there's poor blood flow in the tendon, it

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00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: can start to wear and tear and just tear on

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Speaker 1: the done over time that you know, the majority of

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Speaker 1: tears that we see happen in tasents a lot like

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Speaker 1: your stepmother, where there's no known injury. They just start

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Speaker 1: to have pain with activity and then they come in

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Speaker 1: and you know, you find a rotator cuff tear on

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Speaker 1: your exam and on your m R. What's the best

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Speaker 1: way to prevent rotator cuff injuries? The best way to

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Speaker 1: do that to honestly exercise. You want to keep the

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Speaker 1: muscles strong, you want to keep blood flowing to them.

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Speaker 1: So it's specific series of exercise that's often done with

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Speaker 1: rubber band stuff you can do at home or in

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Speaker 1: the gym. Helps keep those muscles strong and the blood flowing,

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Speaker 1: and it helps prevent that, especially in throwing athletes. Doctor

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for the information we appreciated. Thank you, sir,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Mark la Bay of Houston Methodist, the official healthcare

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Speaker 1: we having fun yet? Yes? We are eight and four

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Speaker 1: the record coming off. They'll win against the Patriots with

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos coming up on Sunday, and then I

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Speaker 1: don't want to get into the final few games here.

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Speaker 1: I know there's been a lot of talk about that

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