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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back.

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Speaker 2: Part two is underway, Mayweather.

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Speaker 3: I would say the same about Jordan, but that's the difference.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that you heard that. What I'm talking about,

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Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying, you know, because Jordan will make

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Speaker 3: you look like you're less than what you're all like

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Speaker 3: before Scott Lebron fos Scott and Lebron will beat you,

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Speaker 3: I know he but MJ would make you look.

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Speaker 1: Like less than what you all.

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Speaker 2: I know Scott Scotty, I know Scott is on the

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Speaker 2: don't call list and don't invite what's transpired and everything

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Speaker 2: you know, but that even.

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Speaker 1: Scott is fault.

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Speaker 3: Scotty was wrong. Scotty was wrong.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeats. But no, no, no, no, no no. Let me

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Speaker 2: tell you how it started. Okay, you know it started

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Speaker 2: in the Last Dance. Because the Last Dance was supposed

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Speaker 2: to be about Jordan's last dance. Why are you putting

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Speaker 2: Scotty Pippen in there for an event that you.

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Speaker 3: Weren't even on the team. Let the journalist in me

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Speaker 3: correct you.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: The Last Dance was about the last season for the

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Speaker 3: Chicago Okay, the last season. Yes, So what happened is

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Speaker 3: is that they all on their way out, so you're

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Speaker 3: telling different stories about them and their careers with the

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Speaker 3: Bulls while they're fading into the twilight. Yeah, so that

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Speaker 3: kind of stuff does make it relevant.

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Speaker 1: But you know you're gonna make Scotty look bad.

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Speaker 3: Well, Scotty deserved to look back.

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Speaker 2: But you don't have to tell it. There are a

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Speaker 2: lot of times.

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Speaker 3: Stephen a A wait a minute, now, it ain't like

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Speaker 3: he said, yo, man, this is the woman he was

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Speaker 3: messing with his something.

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Speaker 1: No, he said, yo, you passed up this contract. You

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Speaker 1: wanted more money.

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Speaker 3: Damn, that's public information. You Ryan Stork, don't sign this

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Speaker 3: deal because if you sign this deal, you can't come

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Speaker 3: back to me because I'm not gonna renegotiate your deal.

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Speaker 3: I mean, damn, Michael Jordan's gone. You want to be

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Speaker 3: that dude, and then you're gonna sit up there and

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Speaker 3: refuse to enter the game because of Tony Kokach. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that happened in front of millions of people watching it did.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, tell the story.

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Speaker 3: Why not? It's part of the story.

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Speaker 1: But let me ask you.

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Speaker 3: You tell walking around me, excuse me, excuse me. Jordan

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Speaker 3: was still around. He was coming to visit the team

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Speaker 3: Scottie people wearing the sneakers, kicking his feet up. Look

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Speaker 3: at the bottom of the soles of the shooter. Jordan,

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Speaker 3: come on back, come.

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Speaker 1: On back, all that other stuff.

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Speaker 3: Hell, yo, Jordan, wasn't there that You didn't say nothing

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Speaker 3: about that. By the way, where did you play? Did

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Speaker 3: you play different?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Did you play in Baltimore? Yes? So we shouldn't talk

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we should talk. We should talk. Well, So whatever

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Speaker 1: having to Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: We need to be we need to get that, we

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Speaker 3: need to be that.

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Speaker 1: Keep that quiet. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: It's a part of your story.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Just the way I look at it, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: tell an event that I wasn't a part of. So

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Speaker 2: anything that happened in Baltimore from two thousand and two

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Speaker 2: thousand and one, if I tell it in my story,

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Speaker 2: I can tell it in my story because I was

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Speaker 2: there when Ray went through what he went.

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Speaker 1: Through in Atlanta. I was there.

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Speaker 2: I was picking him up from the courthouse. He was

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Speaker 2: living with me in my basement. So if I want

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Speaker 2: to tell my story, that I should be able to include.

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Speaker 3: But that's a far that's a far different angle. The

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Speaker 3: man was accused of a crime. It was off the field.

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Speaker 3: Is very personal and even though you were involved, that's

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Speaker 3: his personal business. There's nothing about Scotty Pippen turning down

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Speaker 3: a contract for Scotty Pippen refusing to enter.

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Speaker 1: A playoff game, that's personal.

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Speaker 2: No, but he's saying the light But he said when

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Speaker 2: Scotty was talking about having the back surgery and he

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Speaker 2: wanted a contract, and Jordan said he's being selfish. Even

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Speaker 2: as they came, right, So I'm not gonna say that.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying. I'm not saying George. I just

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Speaker 2: that he took and said what he says.

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 3: But I will tell you this, Jordan wasn't only the

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Speaker 3: start to show he was also an executive.

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Speaker 1: We all know that that's number one.

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Speaker 3: He has an important component to bring up number two.

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Speaker 3: And more importantly, you gotta remember that was in the

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Speaker 3: aftermath of him turning down the contract and being bitter

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Speaker 3: about it. I'm sorry taking the money rather being a

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Speaker 3: bit about it, right, and so you took the money

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Speaker 3: that Jordan and Ryan Stoff essentially advised you not to take.

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Speaker 3: You ended up being bitter about it, and that was

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Speaker 3: willing to let the team suffer because you got to

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Speaker 3: remember where it's personal for Jordan. If you're a tight end,

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Speaker 3: which you were and your quarterback, you say it, yo, bro,

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Speaker 3: don't take this money because you're gonna be bitter about

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Speaker 3: the country. He doesn't listen to you. He takes the

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Speaker 3: money anyway, then he's bitter about it later on and

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Speaker 1: Leaves you out there hanging by yourself. You don't have

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Speaker 1: something to say. Whoa you mean to tell me? Jordan

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Speaker 1: and went all them jambs, you'll buy himself.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, I'm talking about this.

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Speaker 3: At the time, he complaint.

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Speaker 1: Oh I know.

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Speaker 3: Just at the time he complaint. At the time he

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Speaker 3: was complaining about Scotty being selfish. He was on the

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Speaker 2: But I think you will agree that hurts Scotty more

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Speaker 2: than anything to hear Jordan's say that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough. Are we sure that that's all that's

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Speaker 3: hurting guy?

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Speaker 1: No, there's some other things that's going on behind this.

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Speaker 1: There you go. There's never just I didn't say what,

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Speaker 3: I just asked you a relatively rhetorical question that I

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Speaker 3: to say that we all know this other thing, Scotty

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Speaker 3: is a little enough said about it?

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay? You? And what is it with you?

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Speaker 2: Like every time you say something, you say my sources

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, when your voice is potent and

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Speaker 3: it's gonna go viral, right, and it's gonna resonate, and

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Speaker 3: they think it's gonna compromise their brand, that's what they're

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Speaker 3: gonna do. I understand that. I remember I tell you

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Speaker 3: a story one time I had a coach go up

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Speaker 3: in front of reporters. Stephen A's wrong, he don't know

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Speaker 3: what the hell he's talking about. I can't believe they

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Speaker 3: even let him report on the team. Blah blah blah

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Speaker 3: he did it because he didn't want people to know

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Speaker 3: he was the one who gave me the story. I've

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Speaker 3: been a journalist for thirty years. I got sources all

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Speaker 3: single show, I get text messages. It's a player, it's

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Speaker 3: a coach, it's an executive, it's a player, person of the director.

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Speaker 3: In my case, sometimes it's owners, cause I know quite

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Speaker 3: a few, right, Okay, And so I have sources all

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Speaker 3: over the place. Does that mean I'm always right? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: What happens though, is I never said I was. I

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Speaker 3: judgment call about I ain't making a call about your

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Speaker 3: personal life. I ain't making a call about something ultra

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Speaker 3: indacive or whatever. You know. The other day when I

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Speaker 3: stephen A. They said, sometimes it's like it's hard for

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Speaker 3: the chair. All right, I'd heard the same thing on

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Speaker 3: several occasions. Well, two years ago, you missed forty two games.

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Speaker 3: Do the injury. The next season, missed the entire season.

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Speaker 3: This season is coming up, the team announced, think about this.

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Speaker 3: The team announced the June that he would be available.

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Speaker 1: Before the new year. Think about that.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going like this, you gonna literally sit pool

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Speaker 3: a seating position when you done missed forty eight percent

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Speaker 3: of your games and just your fourth or fifth year

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Speaker 3: your career. Brother, you clearly are not healthy. Okay, you

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Speaker 3: want to get literal with it. Maybe I shouldn't have said,

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Speaker 3: seventy six ers, and I'm covering Alan and Iverson and beyond.

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Speaker 3: I've been a journalist for thirty years. I was a

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Speaker 3: for another seven and eight. I've been around and so

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Speaker 3: there's been plenty of times when people have refuted what

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Speaker 3: I was telling the truth all along. You go ahead

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Speaker 3: and you denied that. I remember one time I had

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Speaker 3: a player. I'm in Saint Thomas is where my family's from.

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Speaker 3: And if you go to Saint Thomas's a spot called

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Speaker 3: Red Hook, and Red Hook is where you're going. You

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Speaker 3: a call up one out and it's saying I'm lying.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what the hell are you?

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Speaker 1: Kid?

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Speaker 3: You already told them you leaving.

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Speaker 1: It's hurting my brand.

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Speaker 3: And you realize how a life of cats are thinking.

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Speaker 3: They're thinking about their social media following. They're thinking about

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Speaker 3: the connections that they have, They're thinking about how that's

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Speaker 3: gonna be parlayed in a monetary value for themselves down

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Speaker 3: the line, and how I could be compromised. And so

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Speaker 3: when you see these denials, let's say, you say, all right,

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Speaker 3: it makes sense, I got it. I leave it alone.

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Speaker 3: But my attitude is I'm not giving you a death sentence,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not talking about your personal business, right, I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about relatively obvious stuff. Calm the hell down and

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Speaker 3: stop making it bigger than what it is, right, and

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Speaker 3: you'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: The conversation that I saw, I saw a little bit

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Speaker 2: of it about were Steph Curry, I think gonna Gilbert

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Speaker 2: Arenas Agent Zeros podcast saying he's the greatest point guard.

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Speaker 1: You agreed or disagree.

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Speaker 3: I agreed, but I was mistaken. And the reason why

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Speaker 3: Byron Scott's Cooper. You know what I'm saying, this stuff

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Speaker 2: Because that's what I'm saying. I don't really look I

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Speaker 1: They just they're not the point guard.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at point guard like Magic John, Stockton, Jason Kidd,

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't. That's why I got him number two.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean by that when I say

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Speaker 1: And he raised money for the boys, and I mean

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Speaker 3: A businessman, extraordinary actor, he did a great job and everything.

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Speaker 3: great actor, great business man. So be there for you.

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Speaker 1: The greatness about him. Let's in the movie train Wreck.

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Speaker 3: Did you see what he did?

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Speaker 1: He was great?

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Speaker 3: He was great. He did a great job you know

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Speaker 3: with Amy Schuma believe. I mean, he was fantastic. You know,

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Speaker 3: You know, this brother takes care of his body. He's

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Speaker 3: reason that I got mad at Anthony Davis last year

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Speaker 3: because I'm looking at Anthony Davis. You know this brother

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Speaker 3: I know you got him the ring in the bubble,

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Speaker 3: but you understand that. Don't stop there?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: How is he in better shape than you? How is

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Speaker 3: use his trainer, use his nutritionness, do something, and you

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Speaker 3: unders saying saying, I'm like, it's like, come on now,

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Speaker 1: Bro, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna change my diet even more. I ain't gonna

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Speaker 3: let you down, bro, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bet there ain't.

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Speaker 3: Got shitning and Ron RC sitting across from me with

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Speaker 3: this other stuff, And I'm gonna roll around with a

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Speaker 3: ain't going down like that. It ain't going down like that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be in shape, bro. I've been getting the shape,

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Speaker 3: but I already lost some pounds.

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Speaker 1: I really doing my body fat and half.

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Speaker 3: I did all that. But what I'm I'll never be

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Speaker 3: the black Hawk, but you are. I ain't trying to

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Speaker 3: do that. But you ain't gonna look at me and

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Speaker 3: go like this. Damn he needed to get the jim.

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Speaker 1: He ain't in shape.

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Speaker 3: I ain't gonna do that. I ain't gonna do Hama

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Speaker 3: bringer that you got Molly sitting in the middle and

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Speaker 3: stuff like that. You sitting across from me. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: and I'm looking Chebvy now, I ain't going down like that.

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Speaker 3: And I'm looking at Anthony Davis like, ain't there's nothing

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Speaker 3: inside of you that said, you know, I need to

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Speaker 3: be in shape. You're gonna drop forty one game.

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Speaker 1: And eleven and next. Come on, bro, come on bro.

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Speaker 3: You know it's like you looking at Lebron and I

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Speaker 3: literally almost went on the air. It was like, you know, Lebron, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Sorry I felt that bad for you because.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, in his twentieth year in the league, he's

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Speaker 3: in better shape. He actually wishes you were the better player,

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Speaker 3: it's sporadic because of a lack of dedication. In my opinion,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that, but I'm like, would you think

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Speaker 2: Sun right, Bro, I'm almost ten years more in the

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, come on, man, and you in l A.

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Speaker 3: And you know this because you've been out here, live

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Speaker 3: to be disciplined to be out here. You can't you

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Speaker 3: you can't easily locate the distract I mean they are

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing with discipline. It requires you to

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: When I'm in l A, Bro, I don't come outside

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Speaker 1: That's right. We're gonna be We're gonna be in the

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Speaker 3: I'm not listen you want you want to meme that

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: That's like, that's like the rocks that the next to

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Speaker 3: Snoop Dog. We ain't doing that. We are the snoopids

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Speaker 3: You know I love you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I'm not getting in the gym with you.

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Speaker 1: You won't work out, huh, just won't work out.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna work out every listen, I work out. You

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do that just yet, okay, Dame, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: man and James Harden situation, Yes, hir, Dame is you

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Speaker 3: know he looks he saw James Harden get.

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Speaker 2: Fined one hundred thousand for calling Darryl Mourray a liar.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I ain't trying to, you know, lose any

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Speaker 3: Well, when I think about Dame, it's more sensitive to

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Speaker 1: And he was never gonna get anybody to come a.

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Speaker 3: It's never gonna get so now that he's been there

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Speaker 1: Get this done.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he shouldn't have done that, right, But the bottom

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Speaker 3: line is he's given Portland everything he's had, right, and

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Speaker 3: And so that's how I feel. I support Dame on that.

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Speaker 3: They gave you everything but a Pacify and a BIB

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Speaker 3: want me. They gave you everything, and Daryl Morey took

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00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,120
Speaker 3: care of you to the point where Mike d'antonia didn't

436
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 3: even show negative plays a James Harden when James Harden

437
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 3: was in the film room, showed about everybody else wouldn't

438
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 3: even show home in the film room. This is me

439
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 3: covering the NBA. I'm telling you what I know. Then

440
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 3: you force your way out. You want to go to

441
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 3: Philly because you want to go with Darryl Moore. You

442
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,159
Speaker 3: want to follow him there, but they say no, So

443
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 3: you want to go to Brooklyn. They tell you no. Initially,

444
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,119
Speaker 3: you show up the camp out of shape. You make

445
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 3: it very very clear that you ain't trying to do

446
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 3: anything because you're trying to get the hell out of town.

447
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 3: So they ultimately trade you to Brooklyn. You get in Brooklyn,

448
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 3: you force your way out of it because you want

449
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 3: to go with Darryl Morey and Philly, which is where

450
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 3: you wanted to go all along. Now, although we can't

451
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 3: absolve Daryl Morey, if you lied to the man you

452
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 3: lied to, that ain't nobody giving, ain't nobody blaming. That's right,

453
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 3: you know, if you told him that, you owe him

454
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 3: that correct fit period. But why is anybody gonna be

455
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 3: sympathetic to James Harden with what James Harden has done

456
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 3: on three separate ocasions and now you're doing it a

457
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 3: fourth And you gotta remember when he was in Houston.

458
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 3: I want Dwight Howard. I don't want Dwight Howard. I

459
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 3: want Carmelo Anthony. Don't want Carmelo Anthony. I want CP three.

460
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 3: I don't want CP three. I want Russ. I don't

461
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 3: want Russ. And now one single championship to show for it.

462
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 3: It ain't like you are champion making these demands. You

463
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 3: getting paid. You're a show stopper, we get it, but

464
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 3: you have no championships to show for any of your efforts.

465
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 3: At some point in time, somebody got to be willing

466
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 3: to say to you, yo, can you give me a

467
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 3: little bit more? Oh, by the way, don't get me started.

468
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 3: Will close out games in the playoffs. We just saw

469
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Speaker 3: what you did in the Game seven nine points three

470
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 3: for eleven shooting and a Game seven close out game

471
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Speaker 3: against Boston. You had him for Game six, you were

472
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 3: up three to two on your home turf in Philadelphia,

473
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 3: and look what happened. Those are the kind of things

474
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Speaker 3: that I'm talking about. And so when something like that happens, man,

475
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 3: I can't support that. Right. I can like him and

476
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: be cool with him, but I can't support those decisions

477
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 3: that he's can't do it.

478
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Speaker 1: What's Katy's legacy going to be?

479
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Speaker 3: What's Kevin Durant's legacy gonna.

480
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Speaker 2: Because I think Stephen a. He was up three to

481
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Speaker 2: one on the Golden State Warriors. He's up three to

482
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Speaker 2: one on a seventy three win team, lose Game five,

483
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: lose Game six, lose Game seven, and in games five

484
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: and six and seven of games five and six, he

485
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 2: shot the ball terrible.

486
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will tell you this. I think that Kevin

487
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 3: Durant is one of the greatest players that I've ever seen.

488
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:49,719
Speaker 3: But when I saw how things materialized in Brooklyn and

489
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: then he went to Phoenix and got bounced out in

490
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 3: the second round of Denver. What I said was, I

491
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 3: can't put him above Lebron. I used to look at

492
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 3: him and his offensive arsenal and think that, But what

493
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: I realize is that I'm not showing enough respect and

494
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 3: appreciation to the leadership that Lebron has exerted and exhibited.

495
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: Lebron has been the face of every franchise he's been on,

496
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Speaker 3: even though d Wade was that leader in Miami. And

497
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: when you look at Lebron, what he had to deal

498
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Speaker 3: with Kyrie, you know, what he had to deal with

499
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: when he arrived in LA what he had to deal

500
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 3: with with all evitriol aimed in his direction in Miami

501
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Mental toughness, ultimately leadership, accountability. You know,

502
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 3: of course his he is in Cleveland. Of course, when

503
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 3: you look at all of these things, he showed an

504
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 3: ability to deal with things Kevin Durant did not right.

505
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant is a phenomenal player, a good brother, really

506
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 3: authentic in a lot of ways. I got a lot

507
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: of love for him. He is a two time champion,

508
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: the two time NBA Finals MVP. We can't tell I

509
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: don't care that he's playing with the Golden State Warriors.

510
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 3: He averaged thirty five. He was the MVP. He balled out,

511
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 3: you know, he showed his greatness. But the problem that

512
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 3: I would tell you that was really put on display

513
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn. He needed to be a leader.

514
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: But he doesn't want that.

515
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 3: He's already told you that. And that's the difference. Lebron

516
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: wants it. Lebron wants to be the leader. Lebron accepts it.

517
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Speaker 3: You know. You know, Kyrie is Kyrie, and you know

518
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 3: I'm not here to I'm not gonna throw no shade.

519
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 3: Me and Kyrie have had our issues. That stuff has

520
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 3: been resolved. But the point is is that at the

521
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 3: end of the day, Kyrie that is somebody that Kevin Durant,

522
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Speaker 3: if he were that leader, had to reel in r

523
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Speaker 3: by simply saying, man.

524
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Speaker 1: Bump all this. We try to win the chip.

525
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 3: Kyrie doesn't hurt his ankle against Milwaukee in the playoffs,

526
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: Brooklyn might have won it all right, because I think

527
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: they win that series against Milwaukee, and I think they

528
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 3: could have beaten in Phoenix. I mean, it's just that

529
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: simple to me. And so when I'm looking at it

530
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 3: from that perspective, I'm just saying to myself, You, Kevin Durant,

531
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: it's about living and let living and I'll do my job. Naw.

532
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: It's about making sure that the ultimate job is to

533
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: try to win the chip and letting nothing stand in

534
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 3: the way of that. If you're on a football field,

535
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: Ray Lewis might have been the leader.

536
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna be quiet.

537
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Speaker 3: If you see cats blowing your opportunity to win the

538
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: Super Bowl championship, You're gonna be like yo. And I

539
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: remember when Isaiah Thomas, the great Isaiah Thomas, two time

540
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 3: Champion Hall of Famale Isaiah Thomas was arguing with me

541
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 3: one time about Kyrie and I said to him it

542
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 3: was over the back seat thing, and I said, I'm

543
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 3: gonna end this conversation right now, Zeke by one simple question.

544
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: If a member of the Detroit Pistons that was such

545
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: an integral part of your championship hopes took that position,

546
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: what would you have done? Isaiah started laughing. He said,

547
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: as a team, we would have snatched his ass up.

548
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: We had sat him down, tied him up, and we

549
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: had ejected the shitting To myself, he said, now you

550
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 3: might have been mad at us.

551
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 1: You might have been mad at us right, but we

552
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: would have done it.

553
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: I said, I rest my case. All I'm saying is

554
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 3: that at the end of the day, were trying to

555
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: win and anything that gets in a way of that

556
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 3: is secondary right to that actually being the priority. It's

557
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: all I'm saying. And I think Kevin Durant should have

558
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 3: had that attitude, and I don't think he did.

559
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: You look at the West, the Nuggets won the championships.

560
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: I like nicolea Yokich. I think he's one of the

561
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 2: two best players in all of basketball. You got Phoenix

562
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: this is a year book and Katie together, Bradley Bill joined.

563
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: You got the Warriors CP three. What's gonna be his

564
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: role in that situation? The Lakers if Anthony Davis is healthy,

565
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: I like that. They they have depth. Austin Reeves I

566
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: like him.

567
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: I like him.

568
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: What's how's the West gonna shake it?

569
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Speaker 3: First of all, we always root for the Lakers because

570
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: they have something to color for. I mean, you know,

571
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: if you ask me, do I want to go to

572
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 3: San Francisco or La is l a all day every

573
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: day twice with Sundays, so so just for my own

574
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: personal preferences, it's always La La Miami is my dream scenario.

575
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: That's why I was so miserable doing COVID, because the

576
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: one time I wanted to get my dreams.

577
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: In the bub, I was so depressed.

578
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: I was so depressed.

579
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this, I.

580
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 3: Don't believe in Anthony Davis in terms of his availability.

581
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about his skill set. I'm not talking

582
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 3: about whether he cares or not. I'm talking about injury prone, sporadic.

583
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: There's something going on with him where instead of talking

584
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 3: about me getting in the gym, you need to be

585
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: jogging in him to get in the gym, because it's

586
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: just up and down. It's like it's like it's like

587
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: this brother sat up there, ate healthy meal one day,

588
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: and then the the bag of skittles the next, and

589
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: it's the plumbing.

590
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't understand it, and I.

591
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 3: Can't have faith in it. I think they'll make the playoffs.

592
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: I think they'll be formidable. I dismissed the Clippers because

593
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 3: I just don't believe that Kawhi Lennard will ever be healthy.

594
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 3: I just don't believe that. Well.

595
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: Paul George is miss damn.

596
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: There's much time I agree with you that's totally totally true, Troy.

597
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: I remember, I just show the numbers recently. I think

598
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: Paul George misses about thirty eight percent of his game

599
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: and Kahi is that forty eight percent. So I think

600
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: it's around that Paul George talking about he gonna play

601
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: bully ball and all that stuff. We'll see you, unserd.

602
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, especially even talking to him and Devin book

603
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 3: was going back and forth. I got to see that,

604
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: right because I know Devin book is coming that dude

605
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: de Book. Devin Booker is real and I'm talking about

606
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: his mentality. He ain't scared of nothing. He's coming for you.

607
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: So I definitely respect that. And we're gonna see what

608
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: Bill and kd do together as well. Phoenix, to me,

609
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: should be the favorites. You look at Denver, uh, They're

610
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: obviously formidable and you got that cohesive missile. I would

611
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: tell you a rematch between Denver and Phoenix and all

612
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: likelihood the conference finals as opposed to the divisional playoff

613
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: round semifinals. Rather, we'll see that, but that's what comes

614
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: to my mind. I don't expect much from Dallas, even

615
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 3: though Anthony Edward is on the rise. I don't expect

616
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: much from Minnesota. I don't expect much from Minnesota. I

617
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: think that was to me they don't have the person out.

618
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think Minnesota should not run

619
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: the team through Anthony itwars as opposed to Cat Yes, yeah.

620
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: Agree, I agree totally. I think that Anthony Edwards is

621
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: one of those dudes. He's one of those dudes. He's

622
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: coming and I feel that way. But I definitely think

623
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: that when you look at the two teams, I would

624
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 3: look at Phoenix and Denver, and then I would look

625
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: at the Lakers and Clippers on it outside on a

626
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: come up, right, That's how I view the West.

627
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: You didn't mention the Grizzlies, obviously the Josh situation. Hopefully,

628
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: I think they're ap Pepho mentioned they're they're appealing his

629
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: twenty five game suspension. So I'm under the assumption that

630
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: it's gonna stick. Let's just say, for for this argument,

631
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: it's going to say it's gonna stick. You've been outspoken

632
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: yet I've been very outspoken, and I don't know Jah,

633
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: but if I could sit down, I just think he

634
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: was I just thought he was moving in a direction

635
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: that wasn't conducing to accomplish what he really really wanted

636
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: to come. That's been an outstanding basketball player, be a

637
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: brand the job, brand being one of the faces.

638
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: Of the NBA.

639
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: I agree with you, What if there's some advice you

640
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: could give him. I don't know how well you know

641
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: it's dad.

642
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I've met him both at once.

643
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: John's a great player. Jo's phenomenal. And I think that

644
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: Jah is gonna come back with a vengeance. You know,

645
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: I really really believe he's gonna come back with a vengeance.

646
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: He's gonna recavoc. And I love the acquisition of Marcus Smart.

647
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: I got Boston, by the way, as my favorite overall.

648
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: Really, yes, I do wow.

649
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Speaker 3: I think porzingis at seven to three with the ability

650
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: to step away from the basket and shoot, combined with

651
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: Tatum and Brown still keeping Al Horford okay and Robert

652
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: Williams in the mix with a Derek with a Derek White,

653
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: with a Malcolm Brogdon the rain and sixth Man of

654
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: the Year. I think when you look at their depth,

655
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: the athleticism and perimeter shooting, their ability to defend the

656
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: fact that Missoula has a year under his belt coach

657
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: and the team. I think all of those things bowled

658
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: well for boys, and they've been knocking on the door

659
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: long enough. You Jalen Brown, you just signed three hundred

660
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: million dollars, you damn well better show up. And if

661
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: you and if you Jason Tatum, who's in line for

662
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: about three hundred and sixty million, you damn well better

663
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: show up. And so I'm gonna assume that they will.

664
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: But I think Mark is smart. Losing him it'll be

665
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: felt to some degree, but I definitely think it's gonna

666
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: help Memphis immensely, right, And I think that, you know.

667
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: And I think that, and you get Steven Adams back Clark, and.

668
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: People don't realize Adams and Clark being gone. Lakers don't

669
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: beat them like that. If Adams and Clark are healthy,

670
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: that just doesn't happen, because Adams and Clark are no joke.

671
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: And so I take that into consideration as well. Having

672
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: said all of that, I'm not sure. And they're shooting collectively, right, Okay,

673
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: So that concerns me. I think they're sporadic defensively, that

674
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: concerns me. I think they're coaching concerns me to some degree.

675
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: So I look at Memphis. But in terms of my

676
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: advice to Joe, it's this, man, some people you gotta

677
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: leave behind. And I don't mean cut 'em off like

678
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 3: you don't know 'em, right, I don't mean cut 'em

679
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: off like you can't be with them. But I'll give

680
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: you a perfect example. I got brothers that I grew

681
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: up with in Queens, New York. Half of them are

682
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: dead cause, you know, the drug game was real prevalent then,

683
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: and I was blessed that I was never a part

684
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: of it, but most of my friends were. And you know,

685
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: I got a couple of I got a couple of

686
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: brothers that you know, did some time, and I'll always

687
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: look out for them. I'll always have love for them. Shannon,

688
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: they can't hang with me. No, they can't hang with me.

689
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: You're not coming to work with me. You're not coming

690
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: to a game with me. That's not happening. And I

691
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: see you neighborhood. What stuff? How you doing? You need

692
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 3: me for anything? What's so? What you need? I can

693
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: help you. I'm more happy to do that. So I'm

694
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: not told by ostracizing you. But the NBA is your business.

695
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: What happened with John Court him about sixty million hours,

696
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: sixty million ounce You ain't getting that back. No matter

697
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: how much money you get, you ain't getting that back.

698
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: And so for me, you know, with his dad, Look,

699
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: I'm a father, you're a father. Here's the deal. I

700
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: know you can't tell your son literally tell him what

701
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: to do. He's a grown up, right, but certain things

702
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: he don't need to be doing it right in front

703
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: of you. Correct you the grown up, you dad, and

704
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: you are not supposed to be trying to live the

705
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: life he liveing. You know what I'm saying.

706
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: Y'all made it and you're gonna make it even more.

707
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: And so it's not to cast dispersions, assault them, denigrate

708
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: them in any way. Who wouldn't root for jama Ren?

709
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 3: Who ain't rooting for him to succeed? I don't know

710
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: anybody that they root.

711
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: I know I'm rooting for him.

712
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: I know you're rooting for them. But how are we

713
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: helping you? If we see you doing stuff that we

714
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: know could potentially lead to your downfall and we say nothing,

715
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: are we really trying to help you? If we say nothing, No,

716
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: we're not trying to help you. And that's why we

717
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 3: say something, because we want you to correct the errors

718
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: so you could rise and prosper and live your life.

719
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what you feel about this, but I

720
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: said this at the time the seventy fifth anniversary. I

721
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: said Anthony Davis shouldn't have made it over Dwhite Howard.

722
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: Stan Van Gundy said, you can't make a case to

723
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 2: say is Anthony Davis' career has been better than Dwhite Howard.

724
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: What's your take on that.

725
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 3: I kind of agree. Anthony Davis was a prolific scorer,

726
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, he wasn't relevant

727
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: until he arrived to the Lakers with Lebron correct Dwight

728
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 3: Howard was a three time Defensive Player of the Year,

729
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 3: extraordinary shot blocker and e racer. Was never the offensive

730
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 3: player that Anthony Davis no us, but certainly was just

731
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: as impactful, yes, and more successful because he was on

732
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: the squad that Anthony Davis won a championship with as

733
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 3: a reserve, which means he's got a ring too, right,

734
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: And so you offset that and now look at their careers.

735
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: Even though the talent that is Anthony Davis I consider

736
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 3: to be better than the White Howard, right, the impact

737
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 3: of your career is not greater than that of the

738
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: right Howard.

739
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: The White Howard took the team to the NBA Finals. Yes,

740
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: he did in his prime. He's one of the five

741
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 2: best players in the NBA.

742
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, So I can't disagree with that. I can't.

743
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: I can say Anthony Davis is a better talent, yes,

744
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 3: but it also highlights what you must not be doing

745
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: because a lesser talent, that is the White Howard, was

746
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: more impactful than you were.

747
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: Right players under twenty five, you got Luca JT, Trey Young, Zion,

748
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: Anthony edwardths You know what, Zion, because you've been very

749
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: I've been very outspoken Steven that you know, I'm a

750
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: nutritional guy. Guy, I'm in the body and I said,

751
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: he just do me. I said, y'all a chief, Oh Shaddy,

752
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: you don't know what's going on.

753
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: I say, bro, the man is three hundred plus.

754
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: I can tell he's not eating the way he should

755
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: in order to burgers. But you know you you know

756
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: in New Orleans eating gumbo and you say and jambalah everything.

757
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: So what joa. How do we get how do we

758
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: get Zion to understand? Because I think the greatest person

759
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: that he needs to sit down and have an hour

760
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: long conversation with is Charles Barkley.

761
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: He's a more athletic Charles Barkley.

762
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: I just gotta be honest. I don't think he cares enough. Wow,

763
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: I don't think he cares enough. I'm not saying he

764
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 3: doesn't care. I'm not talking about Karen. I'm talking about

765
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: that fire that it's the end all beyond, because I

766
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 3: believe he's in a market he don't want to be said.

767
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: I believe if he was in New York or someplace

768
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: where he really really wanted to be, we see a

769
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: more dedicated zion to his physicality. And the point is

770
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: is that I don't know that to be sure. But

771
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 3: you can't walk around as big as he is. No,

772
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: and tell me you dedicated, right, You can't. You can't

773
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: because even when you're when you're restricted in terms of

774
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: your mobility, you know what you'll do. You'll eat less

775
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 3: and you'll eat better because you'll fear bloating, you'll fear

776
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: blowing up and not being ready when called upon. Once

777
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: you here, that hasn't been the case.

778
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: Because if you eating bad while you're active in running

779
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 2: up and down.

780
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: The court, what the hell you think you're gonna eat

781
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: when you can't run up and down the court, that's right.

782
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 2: So now the thirty pound that you took off because

783
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: you was healthy and athletic and running up and down

784
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: the court, you better.

785
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: Put fifty back home, exactly. And that's exactly how I feel.

786
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: And because of that, again, I love Zion's game. I

787
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 3: believe he's a potential superstar in this league. He's something

788
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: to behold. But I think it's they had a question

789
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: his commitment to his conditioning, right, And if you're questioning

790
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: somebody's commissions, you know, commitment to conditioning, you're questioning whether

791
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: or not they care. And that's really what it comes

792
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: down to, right.

793
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: We've talked about players under twenty five, Luca, Jason Tatum,

794
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 2: Trey Young, Zion, Anthony Edwards, LaMelo Chake, Gil, just D Fox,

795
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: or Jordan Poole. I'm gona give you one guy of

796
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: all those guys I mentioned, who you taking.

797
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: A lot of people would say Luca, I'm gonna say

798
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum sixty nine, Jase s to shoot

799
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: the three. I saw Jason Tatum drop forty six in

800
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 3: a close out playoff Game six in Milwaukee. I saw

801
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum handle his business in the game seven. I've

802
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: seen a young Jason Tatum, who ain't even twenty seven

803
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 3: years of age yet be a primary option on a

804
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: team that's going to five conference championship games of championship

805
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: series in an NBA Finals. I just look at him

806
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: and I say, and not only that, we just talked

807
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: about conditioning. There have been times when we looked at

808
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 3: Luker and we've said he ain't in shape. He's getting

809
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: in shape right his season progresses. We look at Jason

810
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: Tatum from day one and say he's in shape right.

811
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: That matters to me. I would go with Jason Tatum.

812
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: Andre Igodald says, the player with the mentality is closest

813
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: to Kobe Bryant is Jimmy Butler.

814
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: You agree with that.

815
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: Closest to Kobe Bryant is Jimmy Butler. As far as mentality,

816
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: you could say that I would beg to differ who

817
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: you like. Devin Booker. Jimmy Butler works. But the difference

818
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 3: between Jimmy Butler and Devin Booker is Jimmy Butler doesn't

819
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: care that much about offense until the postseason. Arride right,

820
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: Kobe cared about it all the time, be honest, and

821
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: Devin Booker cares about it all the time. Right, They

822
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: coming out looking for their shot from opening tip off.

823
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler, sometimes you literally feel like you got to

824
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: throw something at him just.

825
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: To make him shoot the basketball. Right he does.

826
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: It's not a priority for him. And that is why

827
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: I would say no on that Kobe comparison.

828
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 2: Not much as known about Steven H's private life. Yep,

829
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: you like myself, are very very private.

830
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: Yep. How have you been able to maintain that level

831
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: of privacy?

832
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: Number one, I'm quick to sell somebody to mind that

833
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: damn business, you know. And that's a kind way of

834
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: putting it. And I will cancel a woman in a

835
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 3: heartbeat that talks about my business. She utters my name?

836
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: What publicly about us? She gone, I wouldn't have us.

837
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't care. You know why, because

838
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: I want you to know who my woman is when

839
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: she's missus Smith. I'm talking about publicly, right, I'm not

840
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: talking about you know, shann ain't gonna Shannon go meet

841
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: my girl. You know, Jamie's Matt. I'm not talking about that.

842
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 3: I'm talking about announcing that you see us and people

843
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: talk oh no, let them talk. You better not talk.

844
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: I will cancel you quick and.

845
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: She can't, so she can't post none on I g.

846
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: Never I would. She wouldn't. She wouldn't make it to

847
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: my crib. I'm telling you, I'm not joking. She wouldn't

848
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: make it to my crib. She can live five minutes away,

849
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: she'd be going by five five minutes. I don't play

850
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: that because here's the thing. I'm in the public eye.

851
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: Let me tell you what to test what I detest.

852
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 3: And I've never done this to another man. It makes

853
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: me cringe when this happens to a man. I can't

854
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 3: get over how these stars be messing with somebody and

855
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: then you with somebody else. But that's who you used

856
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 3: to mess with. Nah, yeah, no, nothing. I mean, who's

857
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 3: talking about? It could be an ex. I be like,

858
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: what you're talking about? That's a friend, Steve. You's messed

859
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 3: with who, ain't you? That's what I don't know what

860
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 3: you're talking ain't none of your business. I'm not doing that.

861
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: You know, when she missus Smith, you'll know who she is.

862
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: Until that time, I might have messed with her, I

863
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: might not have messed with her. You'll never know. I

864
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: don't do that. And I can't stand when we see

865
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: people out here like sharing their information and you know

866
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 3: it's on Instagram and Twitter. We've grown ass men and women.

867
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: When did everybody?

868
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: When did your business become everybody else's business?

869
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: I don't vibe with that.

870
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: I have no patience with that. And anybody who knows me,

871
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: and I mean anybody who knows me.

872
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: They'll tell you right now.

873
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 3: I live in LA, five minutes from where we are.

874
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: They wouldn't make it to my crib being my woman.

875
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: If I saw something on social media that was initiated

876
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 3: by them about me, they out. I wouldn't hesitate. I

877
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: have been that way my entire adult life and I

878
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 3: was never changed in that rega. I could be getting

879
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: ready to getting married, wedding called off.

880
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: So it was all the way game with me. So

881
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: it was all the way game with me. It was

882
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: always your It.

883
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: Was always says once you got into the public eye,

884
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: was to be private.

885
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's not everybody's business.

886
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: It's not Righty's business. Look, I know people business.

887
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: You see me.

888
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm on TV. I'm a professional journalist.

889
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: I challenge anybody to talk about stephen A talking about

890
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: their personal private business.

891
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: Now, if you're.

892
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: Walking on public and putting everything on display and all

893
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: of that, all.

894
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: Right, that's fine, you know what I'm saying. I just

895
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: talked about Megan good to find that stuff the other day. Okay,

896
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: I get it.

897
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: You're sings annilate that I mess.

898
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: She's been fine for you, you know what I mean.

899
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: I got it your stuff like that.

900
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: But you don't hear me talking about people's private business.

901
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 3: I don't do it. I don't and I never ever will.

902
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: I read where your daughters don't like when people come

903
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: up to you and ask for autographs when they're in

904
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 2: your presence.

905
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: Oh my lord, us man. Do they have a social

906
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: media presence a little bit, But I try to monitor it,

907
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: and you know, I leave that to their mom. But

908
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: I will tell you this for me, Oh my god,

909
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: being a dad for daughters, it's the greatest blessing and

910
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: the worst curse. Because the blessing is, you didn't know

911
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: what love is until they You thought you knew what

912
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 3: love was and then they came along. The curses, you

913
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 3: didn't know what love is until they came along. So

914
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: you're never at piece. You're always worried, worried about everything.

915
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: Worry about everything, and they did daddy's you know, daughters.

916
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: So they like me from the standpoint like, first of all,

917
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: I'm not that special, I'm just dad. What is so

918
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: big about you? I mean, please, why all you do

919
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 3: is talk on television?

920
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean you cares our lord?

921
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: O caay if we hurry up?

922
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: Please?

923
00:44:59,239 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 3: What do they want?

924
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: Yo? Want to grab four?

925
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: But then they get attitude cause it's like they're taking

926
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 3: our time, hurry up, like literally, and it's like and

927
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: I knew. I knew from the time my daughters was

928
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: like seven, eight years old. I came home and I

929
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: had to do I had to get to Dallas. I

930
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: was supposed to go from La straight to Dallas. I

931
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 3: literally flew home on the Red Eye just to take

932
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 3: them to school and to give them a hug and

933
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: a kiss. And I took them to school. They were

934
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: all happy and bouncing around and all that stuff. And

935
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 3: the child from school and I said, Okay, Daddy gotta go.

936
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: They're like what And I was like this, I probably

937
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: they gotta go to work right in Dallas. And the

938
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: teachers like just go, just go right, and I get

939
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: on get on the road. I'm going to the airport.

940
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: And I called all the schools speak to and they like,

941
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: could you call back later? They don't want to talk

942
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: to you. And I'm like, this is seventy eight years old,

943
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: and it's like and I knew then my life's over.

944
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: It belongs to them. They run my life. So I

945
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: squeeze in things for me, right, But they're the generals.

946
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: That's how it goes.

947
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: Do your kids watch your kids? Are?

948
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: They are at the age now they understand what you're fourteen? Yeah,

949
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: so they understand.

950
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: What you do. Yes, they know who they know who

951
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: dead is.

952
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. And they see me lied on

953
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: a lot because a lot of times I've been accused

954
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 3: of saying something or doing something and they know better.

955
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: Or I was accused of being someplace like that and

956
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 3: you was with us, you know. But it's like, it

957
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 3: is what it is. They understand it. And I tell

958
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 3: them it's about tough skin. You can't overreact to everything.

959
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: You out to understand. When you're in the public eye,

960
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 3: people gonna lie you all the time. They're gonna invade

961
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 3: your privacy, they're gonna instigate stuff. They're willing, they're looking

962
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: to provoke a reaction. And I can't give it to

963
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: them because if I do, then I take debate and

964
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 3: it can jeopardize what I'm trying to build. And so

965
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: you explain those things to them and you hope that

966
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: they understand.

967
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: What advice would you give a young journalist, because you know,

968
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: the newspaper business is not what it was when you

969
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: got into it. Everybody gets there, you know, because it's

970
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: so instantaneous now stephen A, you got social media. So

971
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 2: now ain't nobody just sitting there watching the six o'clock news,

972
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: and ain't nobody just just reading the newspaper.

973
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: So what advice would you give young journalists?

974
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 3: First of all, understand that everything feeds off of information.

975
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 3: You've got to be about the business of acquiring intel

976
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: and information because that means you have something to talk about,

977
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: you have something to write about, you have something to

978
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 3: express opinions about, whether it be via radio, television, podcast, newspaper, magazines,

979
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 3: dot com, whatever, whatever content is. King content will never

980
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: go anywhere.

981
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: How people are receiving.

982
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 3: That content is what has changed. Linear television was once here.

983
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: Now it's dissipating before our very eyes. There's some people

984
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 3: that are projecting within the next decade, YouTube will be

985
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: more popular than some of the networks, right, if not already,

986
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 3: and so you have to take that into consideration. That's

987
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: point number one. Point number two is that you're trying

988
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: to build something, build a brand. Know who you are,

989
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: know what you stand for, Recognize what gravitates folks towards

990
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 3: you and what doesn't. And that's how you go about

991
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: the business of building something. Number three, Master your business.

992
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: You gotta know what you're talking about. You gotta know

993
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: what you wanna do. A lot of people want to podcast, Well,

994
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: do you know what comes with the podcast? It ain't

995
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 3: just a microphone and a camera. There's a production team

996
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: that get that's behind the scenes. There's a sales and

997
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: marketing angle. There's a sales angle that comes with it,

998
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: a marketing angle that comes with it, a technological angle

999
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: that comes with it. There's people operating these cameras, you know,

1000
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 3: you know, these microphones, making sure the audio is right.

1001
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: Except how much is that gonna cost? Okay? What level

1002
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: of course comes with it?

1003
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: Okay.

1004
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 3: One of the things that I would give advice to

1005
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,959
Speaker 3: a lot of students want to come up no matter

1006
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: what major you take, minor in business, because everything comes

1007
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: down to business. Now you've got to be about the

1008
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 3: business of knowing what your business entails. That way, you

1009
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 3: know how to do business. You know what you're negotiating,

1010
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 3: you have an idea what it entails. You know when

1011
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: you've made mistakes and how to pick up on that.

1012
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: I started my own podcast months ago. I've made a

1013
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: lot of mistakes. Why because I never had a podcast before.

1014
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 3: I had to learn through osmosis. But I put myself

1015
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 3: through that fire initially on purpose. So when it grew,

1016
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: as it's been growing that I'm in a position to

1017
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: now make the proper decisions because I use that, you know,

1018
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: that infancy period to really learn and gain knowledge about

1019
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: the industry. How much is going to cost, what my

1020
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 3: losses and my profits look like, et cetera, et ce.

1021
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: All of those things the things that you have to

1022
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: know because the business itself that used to exist is

1023
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 3: no longer now they're looking for you to bring your.

1024
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: Business to them.

1025
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: Shannon shap you own your own podcast club, sh over

1026
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 3: a million followers doing your thing. Proud of you, my brother,

1027
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: Keep doing your thing, no doubt. You gotta keep doing that.

1028
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: You own and operate your business, and there's people around

1029
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: you that's working for you, So you're gonna be attracted

1030
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: because you're bringing a business to a potential network.

1031
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: To buy to least two et cetera, et cetera. They

1032
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: don't want to.

1033
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: Just employ people anymore. They don't want to deal with

1034
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: that overhead. They don't want to deal with the expenses

1035
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: that come with the overhead.

1036
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: They want you to deal with that now.

1037
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: J McAfee, the deal he just signed with he has.

1038
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: You got so many people hating on him. Shut up,

1039
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: all of y'all. Shut up.

1040
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: The man had his own business.

1041
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: He spent years developing his own business, betting on himself,

1042
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 3: just like you bet on yourself, Just like I'm betting

1043
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: on myself. I just started betting on myself because I

1044
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 3: was hindered contractually and I had a lot of obstacles

1045
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: to overcome in my career before I could get to

1046
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 3: this point. Although this was always the vision, I had

1047
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 3: to start late. This is what comes with it. When

1048
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: you know those things. You become a business. And as

1049
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 3: Jay's he would say, I'm not a business man. I'm

1050
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 3: a business man, and that's what people want to see.

1051
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you out of here on this one.

1052
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: Yet we both work with Skip. You work with him,

1053
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: I think a little longer than I have, and we

1054
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: both have given him credit for opening up his platform

1055
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: and allowing us to be who we are, and we

1056
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: could grow our own platforms, become as you mentioned earlier

1057
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: businesses of myself. What's for the people? I don't know

1058
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: how many people have heard, and I'm gonna follow up

1059
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: after you Skip, what's he really like? Because I think

1060
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: the thing is, if you've never met him, you just

1061
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 2: see him on television, you say, Okay, that's chemming.

1062
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: Who he is.

1063
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: Skip's a different beast. I don't. I don't know if

1064
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: you can just describe him in one simple way you can,

1065
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: you can't. This dude's definition of advice is ding mountain

1066
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: dwe This dude was in the sixties and in the seventies,

1067
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 3: running anywhere for five to eight miles a day, eating

1068
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 3: the same meals for breakfast, lunch, at dinner, introducing himself

1069
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 3: to his now wife and their first date. You will

1070
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: never be more important than my job. Get over that

1071
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 3: from now or don't bother. I mean, that's his definition

1072
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: of turning her on. I guess, so I'm I'm just like,

1073
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 3: that's he's a different animal, you know, and there are

1074
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: highs and lows that come with him. Correct, he knows

1075
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 3: that there's highs and lows that come with me. There's

1076
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: highs and lows that come with you and everybody am

1077
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: and that's the way it goes. But you know, I'm

1078
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: a man first, and it's about a core decency of appreciation.

1079
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: The reality is is that no matter how problematic, and

1080
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 3: he can be problematic at times, no matter how problematic

1081
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 3: he can be, the reality is is that I wouldn't

1082
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: be where I am today if he didn't give me

1083
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: that opportunity on first take. And so for me to

1084
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 3: be where I am and to know that it's spring

1085
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 3: it's springboards off of something that he was directly involved

1086
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: in making happen. For me to insult him in any

1087
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: ways just disrespectful, It's wrong and it's something that I

1088
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 3: would never do. Now. That don't mean I can't.

1089
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: Disagree with him absolutely.

1090
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that I can't feel that he's wrong.

1091
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: And anybody like a Jamie hard with yourself and others

1092
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 3: who know me have gotten to know me in your case,

1093
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 3: you know I would tell him he's wrong to his face.

1094
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: Right, he knows where I stand.

1095
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: But it doesn't take away my love and appreciation for

1096
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: him and the fact that he will always be a

1097
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 3: brother from another mother to me.

1098
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: Yes, So I've always made that clear with everybody. Yeah,

1099
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: it's not often that someone can give you that opportunity.

1100
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 2: And I've said this several times. For me, I cannot

1101
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: let six months ruin six and a half good years,

1102
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: because sometimes people are willing to throw everything away for

1103
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: one mistake, for one bad comment or one something like that.

1104
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 2: And even though that would that's all we were supposed

1105
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: to get. My sister tells me this all the time,

1106
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 2: says Shannon, this was all we're supposed to get. About

1107
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: five months four months ago, I had Tabitha Brown sitting right.

1108
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: I've interviewed her before. She's fantastic stephen A. She had

1109
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: no idea this was going on. So we wrapped the

1110
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: interview and I'm gonna end it on this one and

1111
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm taking.

1112
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: Off my microphone. She says, is the mix off?

1113
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: I said, well, I'm taking my mic off, you can

1114
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 2: take yours off. We took our mics off and she

1115
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: leans in close to me. She said, I had a

1116
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: dream last night. God told me it's gonna be okay,

1117
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: and for you to go ahead and do what you

1118
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: need to do, she says, it's gonna be different, but

1119
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: you need to go on your own now. God told

1120
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: me that, she said. Now you do what you want

1121
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: to do with it. But God just she says, And

1122
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: when I get dreams like this and I'm ever in

1123
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: the person's presence, it's my duty to tell them A

1124
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 2: month later. Yeah, yeah, And I'm like, and when she's

1125
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: telling me to steven A, you see how you looking

1126
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: at me, I'm looking at.

1127
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: Her now you know what's going on? She said, God

1128
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: told me this last night. And it's funny that I'm

1129
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: sitting here doing this interview. Did this interview with you?

1130
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: And I needed to tell you this.

1131
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: Once she told me that I was at peace because

1132
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 2: I'm racking my brain. I'm like, what did I do?

1133
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 2: Did I say something that I offend somebody? I mean,

1134
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: I just I think I'm doing a great job.

1135
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: She said, be at peace with it.

1136
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what I told you.

1137
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: You did.

1138
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: That's what I told you because the reality of the

1139
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: situation is is that you know, I'm not going to apologize. Listen,

1140
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: I got a lot of friends over there, all right.

1141
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 3: We all know that I know a lot of people,

1142
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: but that don't mean that what happened to you was fair,

1143
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 3: plain and simple. Okay, that ain't the end of the world, no,

1144
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 3: but it is what it is. Yeah, So you know,

1145
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 3: to me, it was just important for us in this

1146
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 3: industry to stand up and say, yo, he's one of us.

1147
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: You can't get him go out like this, And that

1148
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 3: was it for me. It was like it was just

1149
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 3: that simple. You go wherever you want. You wanna come

1150
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: first take, fine, you want to go somewhere else, fine,

1151
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 3: because I got my crew here first take, And I'm

1152
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 3: not trying to get rid of anybody saying because I'm

1153
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 3: not gonna do this forever. And when it's my time

1154
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 3: to cost, my time to go right and it's time

1155
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: for somebody else to step up. But as long as

1156
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm here, my attitude is gonna be. Listen, the people

1157
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 3: that have been a treasure and attribute to this industry

1158
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 3: are the people that I'm going to do all that

1159
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 3: I can to remind folks this is what they do.

1160
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to be one of those dudes that

1161
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 3: I got these platforms first take, and I got my

1162
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 3: podcasts and I'm doing the NBA countdown and I got

1163
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: more stuff coming down the line and everything like that,

1164
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 3: And all I'm talking about is what I'm doing. I

1165
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: asked my job to highlight where everybody else is doing.

1166
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: You you wanted to few stephen A because I know

1167
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: a lot of people that have could have opportunity.

1168
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: To help somebody, but they want to be the only

1169
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 1: ninja with money.

1170
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: Nah. I don't want that. And I told you this,

1171
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 3: and I tell the audience that I told you this.

1172
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 3: I said you might be a first take for one year,

1173
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 3: you might be a first take for years to come.

1174
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 3: It's my responsibility, and I'm dead serious, it's a heart attack.

1175
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 3: It's my responsibility to make sure that you are more

1176
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 3: successful with me than you were before you arrived.

1177
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: That's what you told me.

1178
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 3: That's my responsibility, and I'm gonna make sure it happens.

1179
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 3: Come hell of higher water. We ain't going down, brother,

1180
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 3: We only don't you know that the way it's gonna know,

1181
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 3: that's just the way.

1182
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna go. Man coming HBCUs the takeover.

1183
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 3: I ain't trying to lose. I'm never about that. Anybody

1184
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: knows me an't about that. I don't mean no disrespect

1185
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 3: to nobody.

1186
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: Y'all heard it, But I got here as good as

1187
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: it gets. Right here Steven A Smell, Monday, September four.

1188
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 4: No death, all my life, running, all my life, sacrifice, hustle,

1189
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 4: Want a slice?

1190
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: Got the brows? Why? All my life?

1191
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 4: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, been grinding.

1192
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 3: All my life, sacrifice that will pay the price.

1193
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 4: Want to slice? Got to brow the wa all my life.

1194
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 3: I've been grinding all my life. That Pam, Pam