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Speaker 1: year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five. I've learned some things.

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Speaker 1: I think I've learned some things about the college football playoff,

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Speaker 1: but I think I've learned some things. I will share

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Speaker 1: fairly heavily on this show, and I regret to inform

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Speaker 1: tonight's show, jam Pack Show. They're watching us in spring Hill, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: down because I didn't know we had this until today.

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Speaker 1: Jesse's just been hoarding and siphoning all of your correspondents

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Speaker 1: Studio engineer. Now here's what I didn't say. What I

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Speaker 1: The college football playoff rankings are done, the bracket set,

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Speaker 1: Very simple fix. Your conference tiebreakers should be number one

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Speaker 1: agrees with them or they're corrupted. I don't know how

429
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Speaker 1: many times today I got told that this show has

430
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Speaker 1: been bought and paid for by ESPN News. To me,

431
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 1: I thought we owned all of it, But apparently I'm

432
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Speaker 1: employed by ESPN now and they own this show. And

433
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: how do they know that? Well, because I didn't think

434
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame should make the playoff, and there's no way

435
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Speaker 1: a freethinking human could believe that other than they've been

436
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: bought and paid for. So like, the Notre Dame bubble's

437
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: been a little myopic about this, and the outside world

438
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: has largely looked at Notre Dame like a petulant child.

439
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: That's kind of how they've looked at him on that front.

440
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: I've looked at it and I've said, yeah, that argument's stupid.

441
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: But this other thing, Pete Bavaqua said, that's what he

442
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: should have spent all his time on, because he did

443
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: some really, really good explaining of As it turns out,

444
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: what the real problem is. The problem whether they look,

445
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: let me pause, they certainly believe they should have gotten

446
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Speaker 1: in the playoff. I don't necessarily agree with them, but

447
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: let's just establish that. He went on a number of

448
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: shows yesterday and he said, look, this is not us

449
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Speaker 1: versus any team. This is us complaining that the process

450
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: was horrifically bungled. Yes, Pete, keep talking on that. Keep talking,

451
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Speaker 1: because even if I don't think you should have gotten

452
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, I completely agree with you on this. Man,

453
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Speaker 1: keep talking. And he did, and he said, we were

454
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Speaker 1: led to believe we were in the playoff. We were

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Speaker 1: led to believe we had done what we had to

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Speaker 1: do to get in the playoff. And you know what,

457
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: He's right. And I would have thought the same thing

458
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Speaker 1: if I were a Notre Dame fan player coach ad

459
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: I would have thought to myself, was surely, if we're

460
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Speaker 1: sitting there in the top ten or the top nine

461
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Speaker 1: before the last weekend, and even in the last weekend

462
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: got dropped to number ten, surely, if we don't play

463
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Speaker 1: this Saturday and Miami doesn't play this Saturday, that committee's

464
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: known about the head to head result for weeks. It's

465
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Speaker 1: not like we're going to play again, so the Hayes

466
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Speaker 1: in the barn as far as the resumes go. And

467
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Speaker 1: then you're telling me, you guys went behind a curtain

468
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Speaker 1: during Conference Championship Saturday, when neither US nor Miami played,

469
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Speaker 1: and you were already armed with the information that we

470
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Speaker 1: had played in week one, and you knew that for weeks,

471
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Speaker 1: so seemingly it had already been baked into the cake.

472
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Speaker 1: Certainly that's not going to matter. And then all of

473
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Speaker 1: a sudden it mattered, and Selection Sunday comes and Miami

474
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Speaker 1: jumps Notre Dame and Bama doesn't fall behind them, and

475
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Speaker 1: Miami is in and Notre Dame's out, and they're like,

476
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Speaker 1: how do we even explain this to our players? How

477
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: do they explain it to us? Oh? They didn't. Well,

478
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: they tried and failed miserably. I stood right out here

479
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: and watched it on a monitor, and I watched Hunter

480
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: Yurichek look America in the eyes, and after what five

481
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: or six weeks of these reveal shows, he said, well,

482
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Speaker 1: you know, when it really came down to it, we

483
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Speaker 1: had to compare Notre Dame and Miami, and there was

484
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Speaker 1: a head to head result. We had to acknowledge, like

485
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Speaker 1: the game had just been played twenty four hours prior

486
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Speaker 1: and not two and a half months prior, and it's

487
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: just mind numbing ignorance. It's indefensible. And Pete Bavaka was

488
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: looking at that saying, that's the problem, buddy. If your

489
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Speaker 1: opinion is that you've got like ninety percent of America

490
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Speaker 1: behind you and the only ten that's not either hates

491
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: Notre Dame and wouldn't agree with you on principle, or

492
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: they're the kind of people who argue that the sky

493
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: is not really blue because everyone else agrees. The playoff

494
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: rankings process sucks, The Committee's process sucks. Their messaging's terrible.

495
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: They serve every purpose other than the one they're supposed

496
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Speaker 1: to serve. They have a lower approval rating than Congress,

497
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: and I don't even know that we've taken their approval rating.

498
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's something that we should internalize. But if you

499
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: just stuck to that, you would have made a lot

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Speaker 1: more headway. Instead, it's like so hard to isolate arguments

501
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Speaker 1: and to hone in. Like when you're on the debate

502
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Speaker 1: stage and you've got your opponent pen down. One of

503
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Speaker 1: the tactics in classical debate they'll use I call it

504
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: the ping pong style, which is where they'll just bounce

505
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: and they'll genuflect, and you don't allow them to do it.

506
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: You keep your mouth shut. You let them make a

507
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: point that's irrelevant, and then you drill right back down

508
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: on the same point you know, you had them pin

509
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Speaker 1: down on, and you don't relent, you don't let up.

510
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: That's what Pete Bovaqwall should have done. That's what a

511
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: lot of Notre Dame folks should have done. Instead, they're

512
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: ping pong and all around with these disingenuous side arguments

513
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: that don't even matter because the main argument's the main argument.

514
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: So that's that. And for the record, very very much

515
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: a side note here, the eyeball test thing, the eyeball test.

516
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame folks that have made that argument to me,

517
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: not all of them have, but a lot of Notre

518
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: Dame folks have made the eyeball test argument. We think

519
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: we should be in because we're the best team. Now

520
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Speaker 1: you don't know that, well, Josh, I know would be favored.

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00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: I do too. I got the numbers right here. On

522
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: a neutral field, according to FanDuel, on a neutral field,

523
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: Notre Dame would be a two and a half point

524
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: favorite against Oregon, two and a half point favorite against

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech, four point favorite against Bama. You'd be a

526
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Speaker 1: five and a half point favorite against Miami. There you go, Matt,

527
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: my own sportsbook partner is definitively telling you you'd be

528
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: favored on a neutral field against Miami. I don't care.

529
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't care because I don't think you earned your spot.

530
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: I think you're better than Miami. I'd pick you to

531
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Speaker 1: beat Miami. I don't care because I've been wrong picking

532
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: games before. So my eyeball test is irrelevant. And like

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Speaker 1: I said the other night, and I'll continue to maintain

534
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: this if I don't even value my eyeball test, you

535
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: really think I value the eyeball test of people who

536
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: are probably hitting the sack by eight thirty tonight on

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Speaker 1: that committee. Absolutely not. And then lastly, as for the

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Speaker 1: Bowl opt out, No, I hated it. I hated the

539
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: Bowl opt out because I feel like I'm ninety years

540
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: old when it comes to the spirit of competition in sports.

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Speaker 1: I think a football game's worth playing because it's a

542
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: football game, because you only get to play so many

543
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: of them, and especially if I'm a senior on Notre

544
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: Dame's team. I ended my season sure that I was

545
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: going to have at least one more game, if not several,

546
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: and then the playoff rug got yanked out from under me.

547
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: But still I'm going to play a Bowl game, right, Nope.

548
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: On my career's over, I'll never play football game again.

549
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: That doesn't sit well with me at all. And also

550
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: from a competitive standpoint, I've got a lot of young

551
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: guys who I'd love to get through bull practices. I'd

552
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: love to get in some live reps in a game.

553
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: I'd love to give my fans that want to go

554
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: the experience. But I just it's a football game, man.

555
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: So on the surface, I feel that way about that,

556
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: But they're not the only one who opted out of

557
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: a game. I'd be lying if I said I didn't

558
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: understand the sentiment, because if I was in their shoes

559
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: and I felt like I got jilted by the playoff committee,

560
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: the last thing I'd want to go do is participate

561
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: in Sadly, what many think is just some exhibition. Now

562
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: Bowl games used to be great. They're not viewed that

563
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: way anymore. So it wasn't the biggest you know, it

564
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: wasn't the biggest crisis of the week to me that

565
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: Notre Dame opted out of their bowl game. I understand it.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to like it, but I understand it.

567
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: On the level of one to ten, it was like

568
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: a four and a half for me. They're watching us

569
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Speaker 1: in Durango, Colorado, Fort Bragg, North Carolina, Roanoke, Virginia. Thank

570
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: you guys so much. Two cities in Virginia. I've never

571
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: been to Roanoak in Norfolk. I've known them my whole

572
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: life because I was a child of the Weather Channel.

573
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: My first grade teacher reached out to me the other day.

574
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: She saw us doing the outcast and she posted, I

575
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: think on Facebook, which I checked about once a month,

576
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: and she was talking about how she remembered that I

577
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: knew all fifty of my state shapes in first grade

578
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: because of the Weather Channel. And then I had to

579
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: remind her I knew my capitals in kindergarten and the

580
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: shapes by first grade because I watched the Weather Channel religiously.

581
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Speaker 1: And not only did I know my state capitals, I

582
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: knew a minimum of three cities in every state and

583
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Speaker 1: Roanoak and Norfolk, and ironically, Newport News was the third

584
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Speaker 1: city that I always remember memorizing in Virginia, Ashbourn, nice

585
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: little rail town too. So it's a completely irrelevant to

586
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: my next point. I just we got a lighter show tonight,

587
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: so I thought I could fit that kind of stuff

588
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: in there. Bradley, go to the inbox, Go to the

589
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: Pate State mail bag. There, give me this question from Davenport, Iowa.

590
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: Chris p And Davenport, Iowa said, is it safe to

591
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: say if the Big Ten wins a national title, the

592
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: Big ten has surpassed the sec? Chris, Chris, Chris? Is

593
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: it really that simple? Is it really that basic? Maybe

594
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: it is. I've got thoughts on this that I've shared before.

595
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't think i've shared him in the last few weeks, though.

596
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: So it's a really good time for the Big Ten,

597
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: but not all the Big ten, but it's a really

598
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: good time for the logo of the Big Ten. If

599
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: you define success and best and superiority by which league

600
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: wins the national title, then it's a great time to

601
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: be the Big Ten. It's never a bad time to

602
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: be the Big Ten. Because they've been either number one

603
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: or number two in the Power Conference pecking order for

604
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: a long time. Now, they could be number one right

605
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: now or number two, depending on your criteria. So let's

606
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: walk it through. Let's say Ohio State or Indiana wins

607
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: the national title this year. Well, my answer then wouldn't

608
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: be any different than it is now. It all depends

609
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: on how you define superiority number one, number two, and

610
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Speaker 1: I think that I value both a little bit, so

611
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to be said about both.

612
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: I tend to judge the overall conference by the competitive

613
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: depth of the conference, so like, I still think the

614
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: SEC has the edge there. But if you're the kind

615
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: of guy who thinks, well, hey, man, if I got

616
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Speaker 1: the best two teams in the country, I don't care

617
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: if you have number three and five and six and

618
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: seven and eight. Cool to each his and her own.

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Speaker 1: The reason I think it's a great time for the

620
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: Big ten's cause the overall landscape of the sport has

621
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: changed to the benefit of the Big Ten, which means

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. The first one's obvious. The first

623
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Speaker 1: one is with what's happened with Nil, many more Big

624
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: ten programs have leaned into paying players because everyone's doing

625
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: it now legally, and so that is also that's also

626
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: redistributed some of the talent, but I think that's happened

627
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: more in the SEC than the Big Ten. What I

628
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: mean by that is in the Big Ten, Ohio State

629
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Speaker 1: and Michigan, Penn State, Oregon USC, now those will always

630
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: be places that recruited a fairly high level. Ohio State

631
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: is a juggernaut recruiting program. USC just landed the number

632
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: one class, which is great, but Organ's done it. But

633
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: the point is, if you think about it in terms

634
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: of talent concentration, the talent is far more concentrated in

635
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: the Big Ten than it is in the SEC, which

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00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: means two things. That means Georgia may lose a few

637
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: elite players, Bama may lose a few elite players that

638
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 1: go to like randomly Ole miss or South Carolina or Arkansas,

639
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: because that does happen occasionally, but that still means the

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Speaker 1: talent's in the league. It's just more distributed, whereas in

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten, no one ever turns down Ohio State

642
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Speaker 1: to go to Wisconsin. In the SEC, it just makes

643
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Speaker 1: sense to people that Dylan Stewart is playing at South

644
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Speaker 1: Carolina over Georgia because that stuff just happens. In the SEC.

645
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Speaker 1: Freak athletes go to places where it's very unlikely they're

646
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Speaker 1: gonna win a national title. But still those places get

647
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: legit talent in the Big Ten. Who in the world

648
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: is voluntarily just going to Michigan State over Oregon. Unless

649
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: it's a big time geographical proximity sort of thing, it

650
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. And as a result, the top of the

651
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: Big Ten, the tallest trees in the Big Ten right

652
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: now look to be taller than the tallest trees in

653
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Speaker 1: the SEC. I think the SEC forest is way thicker

654
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: than the Big Ten's very vivid right there. And what

655
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Speaker 1: I'm I mean by that. You can pull up the

656
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Speaker 1: latest recruiting rankings, but you could really do this for

657
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: the last several classes, because this could be explained away

658
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: as anecdotal. I'm telling you I wouldn't give this example.

659
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: If extrapolated out over the last several years, it didn't

660
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: pretty much look the same. So USC these signing Day

661
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: was last Wednesday. By the way, for those who weren't

662
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: paying attention, the on three sports recruiting rankings are in

663
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Speaker 1: my hand right now. In the Big Ten, some of

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Speaker 1: these teams had really good signing classes. USC number one overall,

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Speaker 1: Oregon three, Ohio State six, and then it's Michigan at twelve,

666
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Speaker 1: Washington at sixteen. So you had a few of them,

667
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Speaker 1: You had three of them in the top six, and

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Speaker 1: then you got one at twelve, and then the rest

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Speaker 1: of them outside of the top fifteen. In the SEC,

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Speaker 1: Bama was four, Georgia was five, Tennessee seven, A and

671
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Speaker 1: M eight, Texas ten, LSU eleven, Florida thirteen, South Carolina fifteen,

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma seventeen. And if you want to start, you know,

673
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Speaker 1: doing the comparison cross conferences one, two, three, fourth, Washington

674
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: was fifth in the Big Ten at number sixteen. That's

675
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: about where Oklahoma was in the SEC. But the fifth

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00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: highest recruiting class in the Big Ten would have been two, four,

677
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: six eight ninth in the SEC. So just the overall

678
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: talent pool is deeper there, that's all. But you'll notice

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Speaker 1: what the example I just gave about the on field

680
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: product carries very similarly to the recruiting classes. Yeah, Bama's

681
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth, USC's first, Oregon's third, Ohio State sixth.

682
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: Then you know they're going to develop the you know

683
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Speaker 1: what out of anybody that they signed. So I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I guess it all comes down to how you judge conferences.

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Speaker 1: I will also say this, when you see how top

686
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: heavy the Big ten still is. It may not always

687
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: be that way, but it still is now, it makes

688
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: perfect sense why they're pushing for the AQ model. This,

689
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: this playoff field right now is an example. SEC got

690
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: five teams in, the Big Ten got three teams in. Well,

691
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: if the Big ten got their way where it would

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Speaker 1: have been four four, two, two one one, you know,

693
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Speaker 1: the whole AQ model, the Big ten would have gotten

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Speaker 1: one more in, the SEC would have gotten one fewer in.

695
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: And again that's very anecdotal. It's a one year sample size,

696
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: but it just goes to show you the SEC is

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Speaker 1: sort of banking on the fact that, hey, we're deeper

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Speaker 1: than you. Now. We may not have the best top

699
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: end teams, but we could litter the top twelve in

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00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: a manner that your conference really can't. It's a roll

701
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: of the dice, and any given year could produce an

702
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: anomaly of a result. But that's the way it stands

703
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Speaker 1: right now, at least in my mind. It does. Academy

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Speaker 1: sports and outdoors it's been a partner of ours for

705
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Speaker 1: a long time. Now it's getting serious out there, it's

706
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Speaker 1: getting cold or it just straight up already is depending

707
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Speaker 1: on where you live, and you could need anything from

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Speaker 1: winter clothing to winter sporting gear, to a new grill

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Speaker 1: to maybe a new canop for outdoors. You know, I

710
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Speaker 1: don't want to necessarily box you in, because there's a

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Speaker 1: lot that Academy Sports and Outdoors has, even in the

712
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Speaker 1: winter months, that you may not know you need until

713
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: you go in there, and then you look to your

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Speaker 1: left and right, and as far as the eye can see,

715
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Speaker 1: it's stuff you need. I speak from firsthand experience. So

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Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors is available in person, which I

717
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Speaker 1: highly suggest, But if you can't get there in person,

718
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Speaker 1: Academy dot Com has your hookup, and they are a

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Speaker 1: close personal friend of the program. Again, they've been with

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Speaker 1: us for a long time, and we appreciate Academy for

721
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Speaker 1: all ways. Kind of being like the mortar between the

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Speaker 1: bricks of our shows. That's actually how the stack of

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Speaker 1: papers looks, Jesse. Did someone ask about most disappointing teams?

724
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: Or did we just yeah, someone asked Dorian from Yazoo City, Mississippi,

725
00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: a tornado hotbed Yazoo City, Mississippi. There is an age

726
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: old adage in the storm chasing community in Dixie. Alley

727
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: went in doubt head towards Yazoo City, Mississippi, and you

728
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Speaker 1: would not say that in any other walk of life.

729
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: All due respect to Yazoo City, but I'm just telling you,

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Speaker 1: when it's spring, the storm chasing season, catch me in

731
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Speaker 1: Yazoo City. Anyway, Dorian said, you said on the show

732
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: a while back that a bunch of preseason top twenty

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Speaker 1: five teams finished unranked. Out of those teams, who were

734
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: your most disappointing teams this season? It's a depressing question.

735
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: I'd be happy to answer it. Clemson was terrible. Clemson

736
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: was the number four team in the country in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: They finished seven and five. You remember, or if you don't,

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Speaker 1: let me, let me jog your memory. Let me refreshify

739
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: your memory. Go back in time, go back in time

740
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Speaker 1: to the summer. What are we saying. We're saying, Hey,

741
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: Clemson's got the best shot they've had in a long time. Remember,

742
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: they've replenished the wide receiver room. I'm guilty of this

743
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: in many ways. I'm just repeating myself. They've replenished the

744
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver room. I got as good an athletic profile

745
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: in that receiver room as they've had in a long time.

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Speaker 1: What else did they have? Cade Klubnik, third year returning starter,

747
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: Garrett Riley, third year returning play caller. They've got NFL

748
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: capability on all three levels of the defense. Run game

749
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: probably won't be electric, but it'll be good enough. It'll

750
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: be serviceable enough. Offensive line looks better than it's been

751
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: in a few years. And not everyone agreed with this,

752
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: but I had the opinion that this was sort of

753
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: a maybe a last dance situation because I viewed twenty

754
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: twenty six and beyond as the edge of a cliff

755
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: from a roster certainty standpoint, I didn't have a lot

756
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: of confidence. So I looked at this year, this twenty

757
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: twenty five year, as the year they had to get

758
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: it done. And not only did they not get it done,

759
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: they imploded. They lost to LSU, and they squeaked by Troy,

760
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: then lost to Georgia Tech, then lost to Syracuse. When

761
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: they lost to Syracuse, that one was done. I mean

762
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Speaker 1: that was Steve Angeli Syracuse. That was before the quarterback

763
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: got injured and ended the season. Syracuse housed them at home,

764
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Speaker 1: and so they started the season one in three and

765
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 1: it was just a bad, bad time. So that had

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Speaker 1: to be my most disappointing team, but not my only

767
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: disappointing team, because the Florida Gators do exist after all. Now,

768
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: credit the AP, they only had them number fifteen. I

769
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Speaker 1: regret to inform you I had them a little bit

770
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Speaker 1: higher than that, to my credit. Well, no, there's no

771
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: credit to be had here. I'm not gonna do that

772
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Speaker 1: to my defense. No, there's no defending. I don't know,

773
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Speaker 1: in my honor, in my very very feeble attempt to

774
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Speaker 1: explain this away, there we go. Whatever the acronyms, I

775
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: think that if they were just being judged on their team,

776
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: independent of their schedule, I think the AP would have

777
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: voted him higher. I had him higher because I don't

778
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: think you should predict with your preseason ranking, because that

779
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: just means the teams with the easier schedules are gonna

780
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: be ranked higher than teams with the toughest schedules are

781
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: gonna be ranked lower. Anyway, it didn't matter because they

782
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Speaker 1: finished four and eight. This one hurts. This one hurts

783
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: me bad. The worst part is if you look at

784
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Speaker 1: the schedule on your screen right now, notice there's the

785
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: loss to USF and that started the downfall. Then they

786
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: went to LSU and they were I think five interceptions

787
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: that night minus four turnovers. Then they got smashed by Miami,

788
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: and then what happened everyone, They just randomly mixed in

789
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Speaker 1: a win against Texas, which reminded you, or reminded me,

790
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: everything I thought Florida was capable of in the preseason.

791
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: They were always capable of it, just so happens they

792
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: were only gonna give it to you in small sample sizes.

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Speaker 1: It was like my mom taking me to Sam's Club

794
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: on a Saturday morning. They're not gonna feed you breakfast,

795
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: but they will give you the little sample platters. Now

796
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: I used to think that that was breakfast. Unbeknownst to me,

797
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: they were trying to convince you to buy stuff. Florida

798
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: convinced me to buy them. I got a little taste

799
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Speaker 1: of Florida at the end of last year, and they

800
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: convinced me to buy them. And the I didn't check

801
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: the expiration date. I don't know what else to say.

802
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: Very very poor shopping on my part, and they end

803
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: up four and eight. And the worst part is DJ

804
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: Lagway just never even remotely came close to what I

805
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: thought he was one of the things that will live

806
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: in infamy was me doing my sec quarterback preseason power ratings,

807
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: which we may never do again because I had Lagway

808
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Speaker 1: number one and he finished. I can't believe that's real.

809
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: He finished with a sixteen to fourteen touchdown to it ratio.

810
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it anymore. Let's move

811
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Speaker 1: on Penn State. Shame on you, Jesse. Penn State was

812
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: a preseason number two. This one was well documented, but

813
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: let's revisit it once more, shall we. They went six

814
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: and six. Now it was a It was a tale

815
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Speaker 1: of like three seasons for Penn State because you had

816
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: the start, which was like miss leading. So they entered

817
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Speaker 1: the season number two. They played Nevada, FIU, and Villanova

818
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Speaker 1: to begin the year. Didn't look particularly great in any

819
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Speaker 1: of those games, but everyone sort of had in the

820
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: back of their mind we didn't have to show anything.

821
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Speaker 1: We were really vanilla. You know Andy Kolniki man, he's

822
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: been cooking up with Drew Aller and these transfer portal

823
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: receivers all spring and all summer. You think we're gonna

824
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Speaker 1: show our offensive hand against FIU? More like who ah

825
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: here comes Oregon. Ah Man, We're down seventeen to three. Ah, man,

826
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Speaker 1: we're having a fight back. Oh snap, we're taking him

827
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: to overtime. And we lost and we're dead. That was

828
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Speaker 1: season number one, and then season number two was let's

829
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Speaker 1: go and let's bounce back on the West Coast against UCLA.

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00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: Wait a second, we just lost this again. Oh it's

831
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Speaker 1: crisis time. We're going home boy. If Northwestern gets out

832
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: to a lead against US, it's gonna be really toxic.

833
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: Northwestern has the lead, Northwestern just won. James Franklin is fired.

834
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: That was season two, and then Terry Smith is named

835
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: the interim head coach and they fought Iowa valiantly on

836
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: the road and they lost. They hung with Ohio State

837
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: for a little while when they lost, and then they

838
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: come home and give Indiana the biggest fight Indiana's had

839
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: all a year. Including I would argue the game they

840
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: just played against Ohio State and they were in the

841
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: process of becoming one of the hottest teams in the country,

842
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: and we knew because we were dumping money on him.

843
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: The Model never dropped him out of the top twenty.

844
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: I had to manually override the Model and then the

845
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: Model won, And so that was season three. And it

846
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: was long. I don't know how many games it felt

847
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: like to you. Those were twelve games that felt like

848
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: three seasons worth of games. But yeah, that was disappointing

849
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: because Penn State was one of the safest commodities. Look

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00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: at the schedule, keep the schedule at Bradley. So remember,

851
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: in preseason terms, there was so little question about the team.

852
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: Think about what they were last year. They were in

853
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: the semi final, they were one play or so away

854
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: going the other way of being in the National championship game.

855
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: And most of those pieces returned and you got a

856
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: two headed thousand yard per tailback caliber backfield caliber quarterbacks

857
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: back again, we've got really good transfer portal talent infusion

858
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, which was one of the last remaining

859
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: hurdles for this team. And then defense, we just casually

860
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: went outed Jim Knowles. All the signs were there, to

861
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: the point where everyone said, I don't know how Penn

862
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: State doesn't make the playoff. Remember, once upon a time,

863
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: the worst case for Penn State was they lose the

864
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: Oregon game and the Ohio State game. They're ten and two.

865
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: That was worst case finished just a few games short

866
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: of worst case. So gimme Clemson and Florida and Penn State.

867
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: This is my most disappointing teams. And then let's turn

868
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: our rounds upside down, because I have to remind you

869
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: over at peytstatematerial dot com as we speak, there are

870
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: all sorts of different odds and ends that you can

871
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: purchase for what some call the holiday season. We just

872
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: call it Christmas around here. But it is my duty

873
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: to inform you that it's December ninth. People are ordering

874
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff from us right now, and I

875
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: have close personal sources in the FedEx and UPS communities

876
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: that are informing me that shipping is pretty hectic this

877
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: time of year. It turns out people are taking Christmas

878
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: seriously this time of year. I say all that to

879
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: say this. I know a lot of moms and dads

880
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: listen to the show who have little ones who hopefully

881
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: one day we'll grow up to listen to the show

882
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: as well. But in the meantime, you want to buy

883
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: some Pet State Little Freights gear, you better do it

884
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: now if you want to get it in time. You

885
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: want to buy that chuggy Christmas sweater, Merry Christmas, you

886
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: filthy casual Christmas sweater, both of which I saw in

887
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: abundance at our live show in Atlanta last week. Peytstatematerial

888
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: dot com. Or you know, it's not totally selfish if

889
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: you just go get a T shirt for yourself. It is.

890
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: It is the season of giving and that includes the

891
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: man or woman in the mirror. Next up, this was

892
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: an important question. I'm glad someone asked this earlier today,

893
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: Wesley from Harrisburg, PA. He said, you know you used

894
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: to get fun behind the scenes stories from your trips.

895
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: Can you do that again for the Penn State trip.

896
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked. I never would have thought to

897
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: include this in the show. Yes, I can. So. Yesterday

898
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: it was a very busy day and it is It

899
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: occurs to me sometimes that you guys are really fascinated

900
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: with the logistics of how we go on the road

901
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: as often as we do. So yesterday we well, I

902
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: had a lot of commitments in Nashville in the morning,

903
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: got done with those, swung over to Jesse's apartment and

904
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: picked him up, went over to BNA, which is the

905
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: airport in Nashville. Flew straight up to State College because

906
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell was being introduced and he's our boy, so

907
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: we want to go up there and see that. And

908
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: he was introduced at a press conference there at noon Eastern,

909
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: and then a couple of hours later we were set

910
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: up in his office. I was in his office before

911
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: he was in his office, and that'll always be a

912
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: fact that lives in Penn State program lore. And we

913
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: did a really good extended sit down with him, probably

914
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: spend another thirty minutes or so with him off camera,

915
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: just talking through the last month. Man. Matt is a

916
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: kind of guy who really really foxholes himself during the season,

917
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: and very few people are talking to him now. I

918
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: don't try, but even if you tried, you're probably not

919
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: talking to him during the season. And so when he

920
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: comes up for air after the season, there's a lot

921
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: to catch up on, especially because he had just taken

922
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: a new job. So I got to tell you, Man,

923
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: I've been in that Penn State press conference room many

924
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: times in post game situations, and I've never seen it

925
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: that full, which is understandable. The Penn State president, who

926
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: I had never been around before, is one of the

927
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: most impressive women that you will ever be around, and

928
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: I think she took a very, very key role in

929
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: this coaching search, and I think because of that, it

930
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: yielded the best result possible. Now, the coaching search took

931
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: fifty four days, but they ended up getting the best

932
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: candidate for the job, which is very, very weird because

933
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: most of the time, if you take fifty four days,

934
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: it means you're taking option number nineteen. I don't care

935
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: what the list looked like because I didn't respect much

936
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: of the process. The process ended with the guy that

937
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: I would have put number one on the list. So,

938
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, Penn State landed their number

939
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: one candidate. They just pissed away a recruiting class in

940
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: the process, but that's in the past. Future is now

941
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: spoke to them a great deal about the recruiting class

942
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: evaporating about what they'll do. You know, you're in a

943
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: situation now where like you come from a program, do

944
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: some of those players follow you because they're free to

945
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: do you want that? Do they match what you need

946
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 1: on your rush? Like all that stuff's going on staffing situations.

947
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: But it was a really, really good time. It was

948
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: a really eye opening time. There's still just a lot

949
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: of sensitivity up there about the nature of the search.

950
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: I mean, this is if you're like a Texas tech fan,

951
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,439
Speaker 1: I know you just watched this from a distance. These

952
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 1: people lived it. This is a better part of two months.

953
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: Your job was one of the first to come open

954
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: and one of the last to get filled. And it

955
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: is a shot to the pride because you feel a

956
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: certain way about the status of your job, and when

957
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: that's not reflected in the marketplace, it hurts. And you

958
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,479
Speaker 1: don't know, is it just because our program secretly sucks

959
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: or it's not desirable? Is it because there's been a

960
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: little dereliction of duty in the way the job's been

961
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: presented in shopped You don't know. You have no recourse,

962
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: You have no way to know other than going and

963
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: checking what Sean Fitz is saying over on the Penn

964
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: State on three message boards. And we all know how

965
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 1: hit and missed that can be. That's a joke, friend

966
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: of the program, Sean Fitz, and Hey, the other bit

967
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: of good news was Gelby came with us. You know.

968
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: I called Gelby, who lives in Los Angeles, on Saturday.

969
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: I said, Gelby, can you be in State College by tomorrow?

970
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: And he loaded up his five hundred pounds a year

971
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: and he headed up there. And he was set up

972
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: there by the time we got there twenty three degrees.

973
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: I think when we landed felt a little colder. Savannah

974
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: State came along. Savannah State had a good amount of

975
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: FaceTime with Matt Campbell, maybe even more than we had Jesse,

976
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: so I was a little curious. I still don't know

977
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: what they talked about, but it was really good to

978
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: see him. It was really good to see his family

979
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: up there. And I think they will kill it, point blank.

980
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: Think they'll kill it. Oh, by the way, the one

981
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: on one we did with him has received huge traffic

982
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: on the channel, But if you're unaware, we did a

983
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: full thirty minute sitting down with him. Getting thirty minutes

984
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: on press conference day on the first day you're in

985
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: the building is a pretty big deal. So that's all

986
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: on the channel right now. You can go find it.

987
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: I didn't have Bradley make a thumbnail. It's just a

988
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: screenshot of me and him sitting there. So, yeah, that

989
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: was really fun. And then so let's see, woke up,

990
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: did Sports Center at six forty five, did get up

991
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: at seven fifteen and seven thirty, went and picked up Jesse,

992
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: took off at eight o'clock, got up there at ten,

993
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: which is eleven Eastern time, went over to the facility,

994
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: went over to the stadium where the press conference was

995
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: Press conferences at twelve. It last till after one. We

996
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: go back over to the LASH building, which is where

997
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: all the offices are. We set up, We do the

998
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: one on one. We get out of there about three

999
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: point thirty. We uploaded, We get it edited and processed

1000
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: and fonted and graphiccked and put on the channel. By

1001
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: four fifteen. We go back to the airport, get on

1002
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: the plane. Someone had put crumble cookies on the plane,

1003
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: and that's I think all I want to say about that.

1004
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: But they were good, but still unnecessary. And then we

1005
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: fly home and we eat on the plane, not cookies

1006
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: but real food, and then we eat. Time it up

1007
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: to where when you land you can take your pre

1008
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: workout and you can go straight to the gym and

1009
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: you can get there by seven fifteen because it closes

1010
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: at nine, and then you get done at the gym

1011
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: at nine and then you go home and that's a workday.

1012
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: So there's the logistics part that someone asked about. I'm

1013
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: not even phased by not like I used to get

1014
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: so worn out for some reason flying and now it's

1015
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: like a car ride. I couldn't care less, could not

1016
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: care less. We can just we don't really sleep during

1017
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: the season, don't really sleep because we actually have fun

1018
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: doing what we're doing while we're awake. We move on.

1019
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: Let's see, do we think that's Stephan Jesse? I would

1020
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: guess Stephan. Yeah, it's got to be okay. Stephan from Goodyear, Arizona,

1021
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: SMU Tennessee and Indiana got smoked in round one last year.

1022
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 1: Why are we hating on the G five when there's

1023
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: honestly only four teams that could truly win at all?

1024
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: I love the questions so much it is asked perfectly.

1025
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: All right, this is so stupid the way people make

1026
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: this argument. There are some people out there. There are

1027
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: many people out there who don't believe the G five

1028
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: should be included in the playoff. I happen to be

1029
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: one of them. But that's the complete wrong way to

1030
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: make the argument. There are many people. Let me pause

1031
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: this second time I've had to do this in the show.

1032
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: When I say I don't believe the G five should

1033
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: be in the playoff, I mean I don't believe they

1034
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: should automatically be in the playoff. I got no problem

1035
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: with a great G five team being in the playoff

1036
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: like Boise last year. No problem with it. I don't

1037
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: think they should automatically be in. So a lot of

1038
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: people do agree with what I just said, but then

1039
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:53,479
Speaker 1: they'll follow it up with the dumbest logic and they'll say, Oh,

1040
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: James Madison's gonna get blown out by Oregon. They don't

1041
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: deserve to be in. It doesn't matter what the score

1042
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: is going to be. Oh Man, two lanes got no

1043
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: shot against ol Miss. They're gonna get blown out. You're

1044
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: just backing yourself voluntarily into a corner. If you were

1045
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: on a debate stage making this point. I've mentioned this

1046
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: two times tonight. You're on a debate stage, you take

1047
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: a point of view, and then it's like you voluntarily

1048
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: back yourself into a corner by using the following logic, Oh,

1049
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: these games are gonna be blowouts. That proves those teams

1050
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't be in the playoff. Well, bud By that logic.

1051
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: Tennessee shouldn't have been in the playoff last year because

1052
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: they got blown out. Sim you got blown out in

1053
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: the first round. Should they have been in the playoff? Yes,

1054
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: The answer is yes they should. So this sounds a

1055
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: little hypocritical, right because I just sat there and told

1056
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: you I don't think James Madison should be in the

1057
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: playoff this year if the structure was proper. Let me

1058
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: put it that way. Well, Josh, how can you say that? Well,

1059
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: because my ammunition for my argument has nothing to do

1060
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: with what the margin of defeat's gonna be if Slash

1061
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: Win go lose to Oregon. My fundamental belief is I've

1062
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: never cared what you're capable or incapable of. In a

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00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: one game scenario, James Madison could go beat organ for

1064
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: all I care, and I wouldn't think they deserve to

1065
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: be in. So they could go win forty nine to

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00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: forty six or lose forty nine nothing. And I have

1067
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: the same point of view because the reasoning, the logic

1068
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: behind my viewpoint is I don't care about what you're

1069
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: capable of. I care about what you earned. And to

1070
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: even warrant consideration for a playoff spot requires a minimum

1071
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 1: struggle requirement that a G five schedule does not give

1072
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: you the ability to clear. From a hurdle standpoint, like,

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00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: there is a minimum baseline pushback that I think you

1074
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: have to have gotten from your strength of schedule that

1075
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: the James Madisons of the world are incapable of getting.

1076
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: What I'm telling you, in other words, is there's no

1077
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: way that James Madison could earn a playoff spot in

1078
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: my mind, because there is no minimum baseline pushback that

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00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: this schedule could give them. And you could apply this

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00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: to anyone. It's not just G five, and you could

1081
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: randomly have wake Forest one year that just so happens

1082
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: to play a cookie dough soft schedule. Virginia was very

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00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: close to this this year, and I could have largely

1084
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: made the same points. But I just want to illustrate

1085
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: this because people think you hate the G five when

1086
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: you say this, or you're like anti Cinderella when you

1087
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: say this. It's none of that, just pro common sense.

1088
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: Jmu's twenty twenty five schedule. We just looked at our

1089
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: power ratings. You can look at whatever you want to.

1090
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: They're loosely going to be the same. I just happen

1091
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: to have my own internal set of power ratings. They're

1092
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: pretty good, so let's go buy those. JMU played no

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00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: Top thirty opposition this year. They played only one Top

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00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: fifty team, and that was Louisville and they lost by

1095
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: fourteen points. Okay, they have no wins versus top fifty teams.

1096
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: Their best win is against Old Dominion, who we have

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00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: power rated number fifty two in the country. No top

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00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: fifty wins. Oklahoma faced eight teams tougher than James Madison's

1099
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: toughest opponent. Eight of the twelve teams Oklahoma played this

1100
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: year were infinitely tougher than the toughest opponent that JMU played.

1101
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: And if you want to talk about the toughest opponent

1102
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: JM you beat, it would be worse than that. They're

1103
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 1: not playing the same sport. They're not playing the same

1104
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: caliber of football. So I saw this argument being made

1105
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: earlier today and someone said, oh, man, you hate the

1106
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: G five if you make that argument, because the bottom

1107
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: line is they are all playing the same sport. Because

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00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: the NCAA says that one hundred and thirty six teams

1109
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: playing the FBS, that's because it's it's structured incorrectly. That's

1110
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: why that is. That's like when Michael Scott. You remember

1111
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: when when he went over to Prince Family Paper and

1112
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: the little girl was over there doing her homework and

1113
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: he just completely bastardized some math equation, and the mom

1114
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: came in behind us it, Oh, don't write that. It

1115
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: wasn't right just because he wrote it. It's not right.

1116
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense just because we say there's one

1117
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six teams competing for the same championship,

1118
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: even though there's this bubble at the top that have

1119
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: vast disparities in resource and therefore vast disparities and talent

1120
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: relative to these other guys over here. And any sane

1121
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 1: society would look and say, why don't we have those

1122
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: guys compete against each other and chase their own championship,

1123
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: and then these guys over here can chase the championship

1124
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: that already exists. But the minute you talk about that,

1125
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: people just fly into hysterics and nonsensical counterpoints that have

1126
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: nothing to do with really like the spirit of pure competition.

1127
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: It has to do with money, which I understand, and

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01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm not being critical of the fact that James Madison

1129
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: and Tulane and any of the G five programs need money.

1130
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: That's why I wish two things. I wish number one,

1131
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: we had a G five playoff, and number two, it

1132
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: was fully subsidized and if it has to be subsidized

1133
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: by the big boys, then so be it, because I

1134
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: would then get the best version of that playoff, and

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01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: I would get an entire new, separate playoff where Tulane

1136
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: has a shot to win a national title. I do

1137
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: know what one of the replies here is going to be,

1138
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: because I've already gotten it several times. There are fans

1139
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: of G five programs who look you dead in the

1140
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: eye and they say, I'd rather lose by fifty against

1141
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: Ole Miss in an opening round playoff game than chase

1142
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: some secondary championship. And if you think that way, that's fine.

1143
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't understand it, but we can differ an opinion.

1144
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: That's fine. I will get group of five guys over here.

1145
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: They will explain it to me. I will disagree with them.

1146
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: We will exchange very very hurtful, witty banter back and forth,

1147
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Speaker 1: and then we'll all go church and get a nice

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Speaker 1: need to say it again. College Football playoff odds are

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Speaker 1: All right, last, but certainly not least. On the show tonight.

1187
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited about this. I've waited for months. Okay,

1188
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: throughout the spring and summer, we do a segment on

1189
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: the show called Bold Predictions. It's very basic concept, but

1190
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: it's not my predictions. I take hundreds of your predictions

1191
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: about the season, and the only rule we have to

1192
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: work on the honor system is you have to legitimately

1193
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: believe what you're saying is going to come true. You

1194
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: submit them, and I put a one to ten rating

1195
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: on the prediction. It's just like a boldness scale. The

1196
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: higher the number of the boulder I think the prediction is.

1197
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: And the rule around here is anyone who submits a

1198
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: prediction that rates nine and a half or higher on

1199
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Speaker 1: the Boldness scale and hits wins a chalice of supremacy.

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01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: The fun part is in December we get to just

1201
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: dump the garbage can out and look through this wasteland

1202
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: of bold predictions. And buddy, all are gonna make fun

1203
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: of me about rating DJ Lagway number one overall quarterback.

1204
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: If you're gonna make fun of me for having my

1205
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: playoff predictions go off the rails, then you better believe

1206
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm waving this in your face ten times out of ten.

1207
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: First up, Mike thought Jackson Arnold would lead the SEC

1208
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: in touchdown passes. Half of you have deleted your accounts,

1209
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: that's how ashamed you are of these predictions. Well, I

1210
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: have some news to break to you, Mike. Michael. I'm

1211
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: gonna call you, Michael. Jackson Arnold did not lead the

1212
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: SEC in touchdown passes Diego Pavia dim He had twenty seven.

1213
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: Jackson Arnold had four and a half times less than that.

1214
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: Jackson Arnold finished sixteenth in the SEC in touchdown passes,

1215
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: behind the likes of Cutter, Bowley, Blake Shapin. Auburn for

1216
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: the record, finished number one hundred and twenty in overall

1217
01:05:54,640 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 1: passing touchdowns. That was the lowest in the SEC. That

1218
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: is a terrible Bold prediction. Next up, we go to

1219
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: Austin in Salt Lake City. Austin thought that Deon Sanders

1220
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: and Colorado would have another nine plus win season, establishing

1221
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: Dion's credibility as a college football head coach, and Caden

1222
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: Salter has a bounce back season and is a Heisman finalist.

1223
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: I put a nine point seventy five on this one.

1224
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: If it had come true, a Chalicis supremacy would be

1225
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: shipped out. Colorado finished three and nine. Their wins were

1226
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: against Delaware, Wyoming, and Iowa State, and that Iowa State

1227
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: team was without like every starter. Still pretty inexplicable. Though

1228
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: Colorado did not win nine games, they finished with the

1229
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:50,919
Speaker 1: second worst record in the Big Twelve. Caden Salter did

1230
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: not become a Heisman finalist. He instead rotated with two

1231
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: other guys. He did not finish top one hundred in

1232
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: passing yards. He was fifteen total touchdowns, seven interceptions. So

1233
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: this one crashed and burned into the mountainside. No, no

1234
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: Chalice's supremacy. And lastly, had a little concern about this one.

1235
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Speaker 1: After week one. R. Wilmer from Clifton Forge, Virginia. He said,

1236
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: FSU goes ten and two, they make the ACC Championship game,

1237
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: and they also make the final four of the College

1238
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: Football Playoff and then what happened, Well, I put a

1239
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: nine point seventy five on this, so I'm on the

1240
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: hook for a Chalice's supremacy. And then they opened the

1241
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: season and they beat Alabama, and I'm like, uh oh,

1242
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the ACC they got to. If

1243
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: they can beat Alabama this soundly, they got a really

1244
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: good shot to make it. So they started hot, Yes

1245
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: they did. Then they lost to Virginia and they lost

1246
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: to Miami, and they lost to pitt and they lost

1247
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: to Stanford and clem in NNC State and Florida and

1248
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: it was a five and seven season. So they started

1249
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: three to zero, then they went zero to four. They

1250
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: lost seven of their final nine. The season that began

1251
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: with an upset win over Alabama ends with the athletic

1252
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: director having to make a statement that were not firing

1253
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: Mike Norvel. And what wasn't included in that statement but

1254
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: ended up being true is they tried to go hire

1255
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin and if he said yes, they were going

1256
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,839
Speaker 1: to fire Norvel, but they couldn't get Kiffin. In other words,

1257
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: and otherwise they didn't want to pay the kind of

1258
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 1: money that it was going to take to buy Mike out.

1259
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: So he's still there, but no one really believes that

1260
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: it's going to work, even though the statement said they

1261
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: fully stand behind him, but they really don't because they

1262
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: tried to get rid of him. They just couldn't get

1263
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 1: the guy they wanted to replace him. So it turns

1264
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: out this did not come true. Florida State not going

1265
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: to be in the playoff final four. That was fun

1266
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: and very cathartic for me, even if it wasn't for you.

1267
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: But I need that this time of year because if

1268
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Speaker 1: I'm going down, the one thing you need to know

1269
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: is I'm not going down. Thank you guys so much

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