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Speaker 1: I talked about my virtual cooking class last night with
Speaker 1: my wife and daughter. Took one for the team last night.
Speaker 1: That two and a half hours in, I said to
Speaker 1: my wife, what are we gonna eat? All we're doing
Speaker 1: is making tacos, guacamola and some margharita's. But I survived.
Speaker 1: I made it through, all right. Paul Finbaum's gonna join
Speaker 1: us coming up a little bit. College Football News talked
Speaker 1: to him about Metaworld Peace or NBA player will stop by.
Speaker 1: Jets signed Frank Or at the age of thirty seven.
Speaker 1: He could end up second on the all time list
Speaker 1: in yardage he's got. He's got eleven miles from scrimmage
Speaker 1: in his career. I'm going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: But at age thirty even are they bringing him in
Speaker 1: to help Leveon Bell become Leveon Bell again? I was
Speaker 1: talking about at the very end of last hour, we
Speaker 1: had a caller from Cincinnati bringing up Kenny Anderson and
Speaker 1: Ken Riley who played for the Bengals. Kenny Anderson was
Speaker 1: the first quarterback to complete seventy percent of his passes
Speaker 1: in a season. That was nineteen eighty two. That record
Speaker 1: stood untill two thousand and nine. What he did in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two lasted until Drew Brees broken in two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine. Kenny Anderson lost his Super Bowl. He
Speaker 1: lost the Super Bowl in Detroit to the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers and Joe Montana. He played in Cincinnati. He was
Speaker 1: a very good quarterback. In borderline Hall of Famer. But
Speaker 1: we were got on that topic. I don't know how
Speaker 1: we got on the tip. Well, we were talking about
Speaker 1: running backs and Hall of Fame. Would you rather have
Speaker 1: Frank Gore's career or Trelle Davis? And I said Trelle
Speaker 1: Davis was the best running back during a three year
Speaker 1: period in the history of the sport. He gained more
Speaker 1: yards in the three year period, back to back to
Speaker 1: back than any running back has ever done in his career.
Speaker 1: Career cut short, a couple of Super Bowls, won an MVP,
Speaker 1: but Frank Gore is going to the Hall of Fame. McLevin,
Speaker 1: what poll question are we gonna stay with the poll
Speaker 1: question from last hour? Well? Yeah, we put up whose
Speaker 1: career would you want? Terrell Davis or Frank or went
Speaker 1: with Terrell Davis, So I guess yeah. I think it's
Speaker 1: the Super Bowls. To be honest, I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: you took them out it would be the same result
Speaker 1: a couple other NFL polls if you want to hear him. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: which division champ is most likely to fall off their perch?
Speaker 1: And I'll give you the top five most likely the Packers, Eagles, Texans, Patriots,
Speaker 1: or Saints. And I put the Saints in just because
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's in their division. I am going to say
Speaker 1: the Texans. I think the Colds of the class of
Speaker 1: that division. Well, what about the Titans too, aren't they
Speaker 1: right there? I think the Colts are better than the Titans,
Speaker 1: but you know, the Titans might be better than the Texans.
Speaker 1: We saw that at the end of the year. Will
Speaker 1: they be able to be that same team with that
Speaker 1: same style this year. That's what I'm curious about with
Speaker 1: the Titans. They sort of surprised everybody second half of
Speaker 1: the season, where it was basically, you know what's coming,
Speaker 1: can you stop it? And teams couldn't stop Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: But I would say the Texans. I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: has taken that. You know, Buffalo might be close to
Speaker 1: being on the same level with New England, but I'd
Speaker 1: still take New England. I'd still I love my Bills,
Speaker 1: but I would still take New England. Here's a couple
Speaker 1: of items here. Notre Dame Athletic director Jack Swarbrick said
Speaker 1: that quote. There's a significant chance the college football season
Speaker 1: could begin without all the conferences starting at the same
Speaker 1: time due to the pandemic. I told you yesterday. The
Speaker 1: information I got is the PAC twelves in trouble. That's
Speaker 1: how it was labeled to me because of the travel restrictions.
Speaker 1: What's going on in California. And I think David Shaw,
Speaker 1: Stanford's head coach, is set to join us on the
Speaker 1: program tomorrow and I can ask him about this that
Speaker 1: you were going to play ten games. This is what
Speaker 1: I was told. Now, whether this happens or not, this
Speaker 1: is what is on the table with these commissioners. You
Speaker 1: play ten games, nine will be conference games, and then
Speaker 1: you're going to be playing somebody a regional opponent. So
Speaker 1: maybe you take a bus and you're not If they
Speaker 1: want to restrict traveling, that's the big issue, and the
Speaker 1: PAC twelve you got to travel and that's going to
Speaker 1: be a big problem for some of these schools. Yeah. Point,
Speaker 1: I'm most curious to see what happens. For instance, just
Speaker 1: an example, if usc decides to have classes in person
Speaker 1: with students in the fall and Stanford does not, and
Speaker 1: somehow there's a rule that if you're not students aren't
Speaker 1: in classes, the kids can't participate in sports, Which wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me if that's like a university rule of Stanford,
Speaker 1: which rule would supersede the PAC twelves rule of playing
Speaker 1: football or Stanford's rule. Again, Stanford hasn't said this. I'm
Speaker 1: just using them as an example. If two teams in
Speaker 1: the conference have two different plans for the school year,
Speaker 1: how does that work out for sports? Well? Also, could
Speaker 1: the SEC go rogue and just say we're playing football.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you guys do what you want to do?
Speaker 1: And we have no commissioner like you have, nobody who's
Speaker 1: overseeing this. Mark Emritt is not overseeing this. You know,
Speaker 1: the SEC is more powerful than the NCIA. I mean that,
Speaker 1: just being honest with you. The SEC could just say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're playing football, and when we had their commissioner on
Speaker 1: a week ago, you know they're they're planning on playing
Speaker 1: Labor Day and I don't know if you have the
Speaker 1: Big Ten it will do the same. It really depends
Speaker 1: on the proximity of your schools and being you know,
Speaker 1: because it's stayed by state of what is allowable, what's
Speaker 1: going to be permissible, and we're not going to have fans.
Speaker 1: Will it be pushed back a little bit? I think
Speaker 1: it's going to be delayed. Therefore you're gonna only have
Speaker 1: ten games. You know, I have nine conference games, and
Speaker 1: then you would have, you know, a game outside of
Speaker 1: the Big Ten or the SEC or the AEC. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm being told. But Kirk Ferren's the IOWA head coach,
Speaker 1: will join us tomorrow. David Shaw from Stanford will join
Speaker 1: us on Friday, but we'll talk to fine Boum, he'll
Speaker 1: join us coming up. I'm being informed that the chat
Speaker 1: row it's our locker room here where the listeners are sequestered.
Speaker 1: There's a big debate, a heated debate about how great
Speaker 1: the Beatles were. McLevin. Are you involved in this? Because
Speaker 1: I'm scared too, because people are really passionate. Somebody had
Speaker 1: an interesting note in there saying that you can't trust
Speaker 1: anyone who does not like the Beatles or does not
Speaker 1: love the Beatles, can't trust them. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I go that far. I can't trust your music judgment.
Speaker 1: And like, I'm not gonna assess you as a person
Speaker 1: if you don't like the Beatles, but I will assess
Speaker 1: your musical taste if you don't appreciate the Beatles. Is
Speaker 1: that what they're talking about or is this no, no, no,
Speaker 1: They're going way beyond Like this is a this is
Speaker 1: a gloves off debate on the Beatles. How can you
Speaker 1: debate the greatness of the Beatles? Well, I think the
Speaker 1: problem with people and the Beatles is they don't like
Speaker 1: being told that they're great and being being forced out
Speaker 1: to them that the Beatles are the greatest band of
Speaker 1: all time. And you have to shut up now. I
Speaker 1: think people who are hardcore Beatles fans are not there's
Speaker 1: no wiggle room with the Beatles, and people who are
Speaker 1: not hardcore fans of them are like, hey, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be told that they're the greatest. Let me
Speaker 1: decide from l Well, you don't have to say they're
Speaker 1: the greatest to agree with that, but you, I think,
Speaker 1: have to have an understanding of what they did and
Speaker 1: how they did it and how big they were that
Speaker 1: they went from being one direction a pop band to
Speaker 1: becoming this, you know, brilliant band with you know, the
Speaker 1: technolog everything that was involved in it. You know that
Speaker 1: I am baffled when people say, like mclovind, does the
Speaker 1: Beatles are overrated? Yes, yes, mcclemm. I think it's that
Speaker 1: one direction period that confuses a lot of people because
Speaker 1: we hear the songs you hear or I want to
Speaker 1: hold your Hand and the poppy songs which do not
Speaker 1: fit that white album mirror. So it's it's confusing because
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, but so I hear I want to
Speaker 1: hold your hand, I'm like, ah, that's just a you know,
Speaker 1: it's Debbie Gibson for all you know, that's just a
Speaker 1: pop song. But but you're not stop one direction, stopped there.
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm bring up one direction with the Beatles,
Speaker 1: but you're stopping in in the poppy period. Now look
Speaker 1: at what they did and then you do the White
Speaker 1: Album and Sergeant Pepper. I mean, come on, nobody Nobody
Speaker 1: comes close to that. No one, no one, no one,
Speaker 1: no one. How about like the Zeppelin, Rolling Stones nose
Speaker 1: not close, that's no. The Stones would be because you
Speaker 1: got unbelievable songs, great music. They stayed together, you know,
Speaker 1: the Beatles were Sandy Kofax. You know, it was like
Speaker 1: an eight year period where you went, they're the best.
Speaker 1: It's not even close that they're the best. And everybody
Speaker 1: who followed tried to follow suit with them and tried
Speaker 1: to do what they did, and it's just not close. No,
Speaker 1: And look, I have great respect for music and bands
Speaker 1: and those that stay together and those that happened upon
Speaker 1: the scene for a few years what the Beatles did,
Speaker 1: and that music still plays, It does still plays. Yeami Club.
Speaker 1: Mick Jagger and McCartney had been giving a lot of
Speaker 1: interviews on this topically. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: have seen it. There was a big GQ article. Jaggar
Speaker 1: pointed out that the Beatles never got to do the
Speaker 1: stadium tours and he wasn't sure what would have happened.
Speaker 1: He said, the rolling Stones may not have been greater,
Speaker 1: but we lasted through that period and he didn't know
Speaker 1: if the Beatles could do the stadium tours. What does
Speaker 1: that mean that they they couldn't do stadium tours? Well,
Speaker 1: he said the Stones they didn't want to it away. Yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 1: Jagger was not to denigrating. He amidst the Beatles are amazing,
Speaker 1: but he's saying, like, give the Stones credit for sort
Speaker 1: of ushering in this huge stadium tour thing. Well, I
Speaker 1: can't see the Beatles really doing with the Stones, did
Speaker 1: could they? You know? Those? Well, they look at what
Speaker 1: they did at Shasee Stadium. Shasee Stadium was so loud
Speaker 1: the Beatles couldn't hear themselves. They created such a frenzy.
Speaker 1: They didn't like it though, it seemed like they eat
Speaker 1: they chose not to tour like that, right. That's sort
Speaker 1: of a Jagger saying, well, I'm going to give him
Speaker 1: credit because they decided to do it, and the Beatles
Speaker 1: said no, we're not doing it. I mean, I give
Speaker 1: the Stones a lot of credit for a lot of things,
Speaker 1: but hey, you played you know, stadiums. We congratulations, So
Speaker 1: did Oasis. Yeah. The Beatles only toured for two and
Speaker 1: a half years in America after they broke in sixty
Speaker 1: three sixty four. Their last concert, their last live concerts
Speaker 1: Candlestick Park in sixty six. So basically they had a
Speaker 1: less than a three year run of live touring in
Speaker 1: America and they were together for three and a half
Speaker 1: years four years after that without playing live, but they
Speaker 1: were cranking out albums. It felt like they were doing
Speaker 1: an album, you know, maybe two albums, one and a
Speaker 1: half albums every year. It felt like, here's a tidbit,
Speaker 1: by the way, I just found the last concert the
Speaker 1: Beatles ever played was Candlestick Park. The capacity was forty
Speaker 1: two five hundred that night. They did not sell out.
Speaker 1: Only twenty five thousand tickets were sold, and the Beatles
Speaker 1: were frustrated by that because they're like they didn't like
Speaker 1: the whole atmosphere in general, that big concert atmosphere, and
Speaker 1: then when they found they didn't sell it out, they
Speaker 1: were I want to use the word embarrassed, but some
Speaker 1: in the story I'm reading that they were not pleased
Speaker 1: with how it went, whether as the promoter's fault or whatever.
Speaker 1: It was overrated. Do you think they're overrated? Seatonal Counter
Speaker 1: can't even sell out Candlestick. Really, do you think they're overrated?
Speaker 1: The Beatles? Yeah? No, no, of course not good. We
Speaker 1: don't always agree with music, Seaton and myself, but we
Speaker 1: agree on the Beatles not overrated. Todd, who knows nothing
Speaker 1: about music, Yeah, a little much. I among me and
Speaker 1: mclovin camp of I respect and admire what they accomplished,
Speaker 1: but some people could be great. Doesn't mean you have
Speaker 1: to love them just because they're great. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: to take time to listen and understand. I think the
Speaker 1: greatness I mean it's not Hall and Oates, it's not you.
Speaker 1: They are not. In fact, you know that's McCartney's biggest regret.
Speaker 1: He and Lennon were just not Hall of Oates. They
Speaker 1: wish they did. I can't go for that, no Candor,
Speaker 1: But you know, not everybody can know, because that's a
Speaker 1: really complex song that's very deep. Yes, Eton I do
Speaker 1: think well, I think the Beatles are great, and I
Speaker 1: don't think they're over at all. I do think some
Speaker 1: of their greatness is attributed to the fact that there's
Speaker 1: like a generation of people right now who are teenagers
Speaker 1: then who are sort of in control of like the
Speaker 1: media and everything else and are obsessed with making sure
Speaker 1: the Beatles remain the greatest band of all time. Wait,
Speaker 1: there's there's a movement of a foot here with younger kids. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think, no, there's no. There's a generation of
Speaker 1: people who were teenagers were oh I thought the teenagers
Speaker 1: were coming. No, no, no no, no, no. The people who
Speaker 1: were like teenagers when the Beatles came out and they
Speaker 1: made a huge, you know, such a huge impact on
Speaker 1: them culturally that those people are now you know, all
Speaker 1: adults and you know, are in charge of sort of
Speaker 1: the media and record companies and radio stations and all
Speaker 1: of those things, and they are obsessed with the idea
Speaker 1: of the Beatles remaining the greatest band of all time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The band that people don't like are The guy that
Speaker 1: people don't like getting pushed upon is Bruce Springsteen. Because
Speaker 1: a lot of people are told you have to love
Speaker 1: the Boss. I've seen that a lot with people rebound
Speaker 1: against that and sort of I think he gets underrated
Speaker 1: sometimes because people don't like to be pushed on Bruce Springsteen. Well,
Speaker 1: you what gets pushed upon you was Springsteen in concert,
Speaker 1: not necessarily as music, but in concert because oh you
Speaker 1: gotta go see three and a half hours. Oh man,
Speaker 1: he gives you everything. Okay, I get it. And I
Speaker 1: saw him on the Tunnel Love Tour and he would
Speaker 1: put on a great show. I saw him on Broadway
Speaker 1: put on a great show. He's wonderful. I mean truly,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the great a singer songwriter, which
Speaker 1: is rare, and the different genres that he's tapped into.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen to Nebraska, Good God, and then you
Speaker 1: do the Ghost of Tom Joad, and then you do
Speaker 1: this country album that he just put out and then
Speaker 1: did a movie too. I mean, his resume is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: It's it's true, it truly truly remarkable. It's like a
Speaker 1: better sounding Dylan, a more polished Bob Dylan, and sustainability
Speaker 1: still relevant powerful yeah. Point. For the past year or so,
Speaker 1: I've been listening to the Tom pat Petty channel. I
Speaker 1: think he's becoming and he always was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite artists, but he might be my favorite all time,
Speaker 1: because I just think his music is fantastic. It's bluesy,
Speaker 1: it's it's rockabilly, it's it's got strings, there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of different stuff. I don't think he was ever considered,
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest star in the world ever, or
Speaker 1: I don't know how he's gonna be treated by history.
Speaker 1: But his music is fantastic, and even the stuff that
Speaker 1: the B sides I've never heard before, I really love it.
Speaker 1: I'm fortunate my wife got me tickets. It was a
Speaker 1: few months before Tom died, and I always wanted to
Speaker 1: go see Petty in concert. And uh, I was driving
Speaker 1: in today I'm learning to fly but I ain't cut
Speaker 1: Wings came on and I just said, it's it's just
Speaker 1: it's it's a brilliant song, great sounding band. But he
Speaker 1: got in with the Traveling Willberries, so he was in
Speaker 1: with George Harrison, Mike Lynn from Yellow and Bob Dylan,
Speaker 1: and so it felt like Petty was always overshadowed. There
Speaker 1: was always somebody else that was going to overshadow him.
Speaker 1: But you go back, he got hits. Man, That's that's
Speaker 1: quite a catalog that he's got there. Yeah, see have
Speaker 1: you um watch We've mentioned it a couple of times yet,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember if you've watched that the Yesterday
Speaker 1: movies about that. That's pretty good. Yeah it is. It's cute.
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah. Yeah, So people don't know, they
Speaker 1: have never heard of the Beatles, and then this guy
Speaker 1: starts singing the Beatles songs. He becomes this huge hit
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Ed Sheeran makes a cameo in there,
Speaker 1: and it's cute. I'd liked it, yeah, mcglove. I watched it,
Speaker 1: came away with a new appreciation for how powerful of
Speaker 1: the Beatles were. Yeah. I loved it. I thought it
Speaker 1: was cool. Yeah, just the fact that you know, they
Speaker 1: got ahold of McCartney and Paul was like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: could do it. There was the other movie about Springsteen
Speaker 1: that they got ahold of Springsteen to say, can we
Speaker 1: do you know? There was a I know a boy
Speaker 1: in England who was obsessed with Springsteen and the lyrics
Speaker 1: that Springsteen, you know, out on a cassette. Yeah, mclovin.
Speaker 1: It was called Blinded by the Light. Yeah, yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: Paul Feinbaum will join us. Coming up. Let me get
Speaker 1: to Chip in Maine High Chip. What do you have
Speaker 1: for me today, good sir, doing great? Want off of this.
Speaker 1: I think the Beatles. Part of the attractions of the
Speaker 1: Beatles for music fans is we always you know, music
Speaker 1: fans often argue, um, you know, who is the best
Speaker 1: band in the world versus who is the most popular
Speaker 1: fan of the world, and those who sell them to
Speaker 1: sell them both. But I think the Beatles are unique
Speaker 1: in that for a moment in time, whether it be
Speaker 1: three years or five years or whatever it is, I
Speaker 1: don't think any other fan can take the claim that
Speaker 1: they were both the undisputed as best band and most
Speaker 1: popular band of the world save time. All Right, that's
Speaker 1: good stuff, Chip, Thank you? Yeah? And what else? Thank you? Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you Chip, Dan in Chicago. Then we'll take a break.
Speaker 1: Hey Dan, Hey Dan. H just want to say, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think for me, I just turned thirty,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it depends on who your folks
Speaker 1: listening to. Growing up, my dad was a big Zeppelin fan,
Speaker 1: me and both of my brothers. The first phrase we
Speaker 1: ever spoke was zep Zeppelin rules and he made sure
Speaker 1: of it. What I think a lot of it has
Speaker 1: to do is you know, again, well your parents listening to.
Speaker 1: Now there is an artist that I did not grow
Speaker 1: up listening to that I'm absolutely in love with Billy Joel.
Speaker 1: I think it is, you know, right up there with
Speaker 1: Springsteen stands the test of time, great singer, songwriter, musician, showman.
Speaker 1: I've seen him in Rigley like three times. So I
Speaker 1: think a lot of it just kind of depends on
Speaker 1: who did you grow up with, and if you are
Speaker 1: of the younger generation and can appreciate someone that you
Speaker 1: didn't have forced upon you that really he says something too,
Speaker 1: I think there's something and thank you, Dan. I think
Speaker 1: it's just by proxy where you're listening. You know. I
Speaker 1: make sure my kids when I'm when I'm at home
Speaker 1: there at home, I controlled the music. I want them
Speaker 1: listening to good music. And I said, look, you can
Speaker 1: introduce me to people that you like Lizzo. Over Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: My daughter's like, Dad, it's time, man, it's time. Post Malone. Dad,
Speaker 1: It's time. And I'm going kicking and screaming, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I go, thank you. I enjoy Lizzo.
Speaker 1: I think post Malone. He did the Nirvana concert I did,
Speaker 1: did you watch that? It was so good? Really good, great,
Speaker 1: well he's got a Nirvana lyric on his face. I just,
Speaker 1: you know, I let them tell me some you know
Speaker 1: musical artists that I might miss, and you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: I go nope. But they have to know the core.
Speaker 1: They have to know what is great music, and that's
Speaker 1: Chuck Berry, Little Richard. I mean there's other, you know influences.
Speaker 1: I mean the Beatles were influenced by Little Richard and
Speaker 1: Chuck Berry greatly, the Stones and who influenced them? Listening
Speaker 1: to those songs as well, Led Zeppelin influenced by black artist.
Speaker 1: Just understanding that, you know, it makes you a little
Speaker 1: bit more well rounded when you get into a conversation
Speaker 1: with the chat row take a break here, more phone
Speaker 1: calls coming up. I don't know if Paul Finbaum loves music.
Speaker 1: If we're trying to guess Paul Feinbaum's favorite band, he's
Speaker 1: sixty four, he's probably went on sixty four sixty probably
Speaker 1: I gotta go to break. Oh, I'll just give you
Speaker 1: a set up. No, we gotta wait and then we
Speaker 1: get fine, but you do your research during the commercial break.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, thank you. Twenty one after the hour.
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Speaker 1: got some information. Tyler, the moderator moderates the chat Row.
Speaker 1: He said there was no real debate about the Beatles
Speaker 1: and chat Row mcloven may have sensationalized this a little
Speaker 1: bit embracing debate apparently, so we'll check in with mcloven.
Speaker 1: Poor Tyler the moderator got roughed up by chat Row.
Speaker 1: They said, you leak this information. So Tyler's back there
Speaker 1: ducking for cover. Alrighty uh, let me see. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to metaworld Peace coming up in a little bit. Let's
Speaker 1: make way for Paul Feinbaum, the popular New York Times
Speaker 1: bestselling author, ESPN commentator, and you can listen to him
Speaker 1: on ESPN Radio every single day, Monday through Friday. All right,
Speaker 1: here was the guest of Paul. We were wondering your
Speaker 1: favorite artist or band growing up. Now save your answer.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. You're from Memphis, Tennessee. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: Elvis Presley. Was your favorite artist growing up? Paula, you
Speaker 1: got one? I was. That's a great guest, Dan, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go close to that. I'm gonna go Johnny Cash,
Speaker 1: Johnny Cash. All right, it's bringing Paul Feinbaum. Paul your
Speaker 1: favorite artist? Yeah, neither of the above. I might add
Speaker 1: growing up and into college, my favorite artist was Neil Young. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that's good. I mean he was so depressing
Speaker 1: and it just it's hit in my mood of all right,
Speaker 1: that's all we wanted to hear from you. Paul, have
Speaker 1: a great check. Yeah, you got it. I'm wondering if
Speaker 1: we're going to see conferences come back and play, you know,
Speaker 1: could the SEC go rogue in a situation like this
Speaker 1: with college football coming up, that they're going to play
Speaker 1: their schedule and they don't worry about the other conferences, Dan,
Speaker 1: I don't think they will. And I know I know
Speaker 1: what the reputation is. I live down here, but I
Speaker 1: think the SEC would certainly, like let you use a
Speaker 1: NASCAR phraser, like to have a drafting partner. They don't
Speaker 1: want to be alone. And I think I don't think
Speaker 1: you could see several conferences do it and some not.
Speaker 1: But I don't think you'll only see the SEC played
Speaker 1: college football this year. The state of college football right
Speaker 1: now feels like it's on hold. But what do you
Speaker 1: need to see before you think we're going to have
Speaker 1: first of all games? And will we have fans in
Speaker 1: the stands? Well, I think to start, I do not
Speaker 1: believe that college football would be played this fall unless
Speaker 1: there are stands, fans in the stands, and most important
Speaker 1: and students on campus. And were not to try to
Speaker 1: make college football sacro sank here we all know what
Speaker 1: it is. But I think the people that run these universities,
Speaker 1: the college presidents, are not going to take that type
Speaker 1: of tip. They'll do almost anything for money. That's been
Speaker 1: proven time and time again. But I think the look
Speaker 1: would be so bad. And I've spoken to countless commissioners
Speaker 1: and athletic directors and coaches, and while there may be
Speaker 1: a desire and a need to play to stay afloat,
Speaker 1: I don't believe the overwhelming majority of colleges will play
Speaker 1: unless they can get students back. And I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about online. And that is why now that the draft
Speaker 1: has passed, and ultimately the Michael Jordan's documentary will move
Speaker 1: on as well. I think the biggest sports question moving
Speaker 1: into the next four to six weeks is going to
Speaker 1: be college football because it is a mystery. It's not
Speaker 1: like the NFL where you can quarantine and get the
Speaker 1: players to sign waivers. It's it's real. And I've had
Speaker 1: uh parents and players call me on the air and say,
Speaker 1: I'm not letting my son play unless students are on campus.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is a really intriguing conversation. I was
Speaker 1: told the PAC twelves in a little bit of trouble
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of travel. And you know what's going
Speaker 1: on in California, the state of you know, California being quarantined.
Speaker 1: But is is the SEC probably in the best shape
Speaker 1: with geographically Uh you know this situation? Yes, um, and
Speaker 1: I think in the SEC. I live in North Carolina
Speaker 1: and my state, Uh, it's not my state, it's Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan's state. Um. Uh has not opened up yet. It's
Speaker 1: one of the few. Um. But you know, not to
Speaker 1: get too deep into ideology here, but most Southern governors
Speaker 1: have followed the lead from from the from the President
Speaker 1: and have opened up and I think that makes it
Speaker 1: a little bit easier. But uh, you know, at the
Speaker 1: end of this conversation, Uh, they will have company. The ACCU,
Speaker 1: as we all know, goes from Boston to Miami, so
Speaker 1: I think you'll see a majority of those those states
Speaker 1: go along. The Big Ten is more problematic. I talked
Speaker 1: to a region last night from the University of Minnesota
Speaker 1: who doesn't think we'll have college football, who doesn't think
Speaker 1: a lot of things. So I mean, it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a it's an amazing conversation. Um uh And and
Speaker 1: I bet I've asked this question since March twelfth, five
Speaker 1: thousand times and two commissioners and alike, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: remains the most common answer. Yeah, well, I think you
Speaker 1: we've been setting these arbitrary dates, and I say it's
Speaker 1: dangerous because it gives people this false sense of hope
Speaker 1: that that's there, or that it's like, hey, everything will
Speaker 1: be good by then, and we're walking back these dates
Speaker 1: and if if, if, if the NFL comes back, if
Speaker 1: the NFL plays, they'll Paul, I wonder what that does
Speaker 1: to college football and just putting pressure on Hey, the
Speaker 1: NFL's plan, Why aren't you guys, Well, I think tomorrow
Speaker 1: night is going to be interesting when the NFL schedule
Speaker 1: comes out. I think the reality is going to seep
Speaker 1: into everyone outside of the NFL that they're back and
Speaker 1: we're regardless, they'll figure out a way to get games in.
Speaker 1: And I think the most dangerous sign to college football
Speaker 1: is the story that came out the other day that
Speaker 1: the NFL without college football, will play on Saturday and
Speaker 1: ultimately on Saturday Night. So that's college football has already
Speaker 1: been diminished because of the NFL. I bet you go
Speaker 1: back six seven years ago, not only the NFL, but
Speaker 1: the NBA. Six seven years ago, college football may have
Speaker 1: ranked number two behind the NFL. The explosion of the
Speaker 1: NBA has pushed college football back even more so they
Speaker 1: do not want to see that power. But but here's
Speaker 1: the real issue in college football. Dan, I know you're
Speaker 1: a fan, and you know what I'm about to say.
Speaker 1: Nobody is in charge. This isn't like Roger Goodell can
Speaker 1: can put out an edict or Manford or someone else.
Speaker 1: There is not one person who runs college football. You
Speaker 1: have these five commissioners, and I liken them to the
Speaker 1: good old days of the five families who ran the
Speaker 1: mob in New York and they zoom in every day
Speaker 1: like we are, and they have these conversations. And there's
Speaker 1: an Exoficio member who really does have a boat, and
Speaker 1: that's Jack's war Brick of Notre Dame and a few
Speaker 1: other occasional guests as long as they bring good food.
Speaker 1: And that's where we are right now. And these are
Speaker 1: all the very independent and autonomous thinking people. But I
Speaker 1: do believe when they say they want to find some
Speaker 1: common ground. You mentioned the Pact twelve that that has
Speaker 1: been the outlier in college football for a long time.
Speaker 1: They have been nowhere to be found at least other
Speaker 1: than I think twice in the college football playoff. So
Speaker 1: they will not be the most important component of this conversation.
Speaker 1: It's Paul Feinbond from the Mother's Ship. You can hear
Speaker 1: him on ESPN Radio serious XM channel eighty one every
Speaker 1: single day. A couple other things. This conversation is starting
Speaker 1: to emerge now about you know, Trevor Lawrence and who's
Speaker 1: going to tank for Trevor Lawrence, Like you know the
Speaker 1: Dolphins were tanking for two If Joe Burrow came out
Speaker 1: of nowhere and had this wonderful, wonderful season, maybe the
Speaker 1: greatest season of all time at that position. If you were,
Speaker 1: you know, investing in socks, and I said, I gave
Speaker 1: you twah, Trevor or Joe Burrow in the NFL, you
Speaker 1: invest in, I would invest in Trevor Lawrence and I, well,
Speaker 1: we've already had the conversations about the other two. But
Speaker 1: but I think he has the raw talent. When you
Speaker 1: look at Trevor Lawrence on a football field at ground level,
Speaker 1: it's astonishing to see. And he did not have a
Speaker 1: good year, uh in twenty nineteen. I say that with
Speaker 1: his team being undefeated and not only losing one game.
Speaker 1: I mean, but he was off, he got he pressed
Speaker 1: way too hard in the beginning. I think he was
Speaker 1: board Dan. I swear he looked at the defenses, especially
Speaker 1: in the ACC and said to himself, I've got to
Speaker 1: challenge myself. I'm gonna try to find the narrowest window
Speaker 1: I can to replicate what I'm going to do at
Speaker 1: the next level. And he struggled at the gate. He
Speaker 1: found his rhythm later on. But I think he's the
Speaker 1: best of those three. Burrell is in an enigma. Uh
Speaker 1: And and I still think he'll have a good career.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think Joe Burrow will will be
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. Tua is either going to be
Speaker 1: one of the greatest or I mean there's no way,
Speaker 1: there's no way of getting around now. And yeah, the
Speaker 1: whole Trevor Lawrence, you know, he's he can't miss. You
Speaker 1: keep hearing that can't miss. It's like Andrew Luck. We
Speaker 1: see this occasionally, like once every generation you have the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck was that John Elway was that. I don't
Speaker 1: know if we've had another one, and then it looks
Speaker 1: like it's going to be Trevor Lawrence. Would you say
Speaker 1: that he fits into that category? And the X dictations?
Speaker 1: I do, UM, and I think he don't forget he
Speaker 1: has a really good cast around him and has had
Speaker 1: that at Clemson. UM. But but there's just so much
Speaker 1: raw ability there. And I will add one more thing,
Speaker 1: uh don't I know you haven't, but Justin Fields, uh
Speaker 1: is somebody to keep your eyeing as well. I realized
Speaker 1: that that's not breaking news. I think he's the number
Speaker 1: two pick to win the Heisman. But two years ago
Speaker 1: he was in a backup position at the University of Georgia.
Speaker 1: So I mean I wonder though about you know, where
Speaker 1: we all are as evaluators when when you think about, uh,
Speaker 1: the last three Heisman winners had the leaves where they
Speaker 1: were and they were the number one draft choice as
Speaker 1: well because they couldn't get a starting job. Not to
Speaker 1: crack on urban Meyer, but I will, I mean, don't
Speaker 1: forget Cam Newton went to play for urban Meyer and
Speaker 1: never saw a starting position, and either did Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: and they both were the first place taken in the
Speaker 1: NFL draft. That's your parting shot. Good to talk to you, Paul.
Speaker 1: I hope you're well. Thank you, buddy. I knew you'd
Speaker 1: get a shot in there at somebody. And Neil Young
Speaker 1: is his favorite artist. Oh totally of on sugar l
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Speaker 1: gonna have a Kevin Durant sighting if the NBA season resumes.
Speaker 1: We also talk about Michael Jordan and how he is
Speaker 1: going to be viewed once this documentary is over. I
Speaker 1: think you'll be surprised at some of our opinions on that.
Speaker 1: Butcher Ohio an email, he says, DP, I think people's
Speaker 1: affinity for the Beatles stems from the fact that in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four they changed the culture and the music
Speaker 1: industry forever. It's important to note how they evolved as well.
Speaker 1: Their music in nineteen sixty nine is unrecognizable from nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty four they defined them by. To define them by
Speaker 1: I Want to Hold Your Hand is very unfair. In
Speaker 1: a five year, six year period, they changed their their style,
Speaker 1: their music, and you know it's, as he says, it's
Speaker 1: if you said that's the same band that gave you
Speaker 1: I Want to hold your Hand, you'd say no way.
Speaker 1: You know revolution. I mean all those different musics and
Speaker 1: the things they were trying when they were recording just
Speaker 1: back then you didn't have, you know, the technology you
Speaker 1: have nowadays, and maybe that made them better. I love
Speaker 1: the fact that George Harrison wrote some of the greatest
Speaker 1: songs of all time, and they looked at him like
Speaker 1: a little brother that maybe one day you get to
Speaker 1: write a song on an album while my guitar gently weaves.
Speaker 1: Good God, where does that come from? My sweet Lord God?
Speaker 1: And those are those standalone He couldn't get on the albums. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe Paul and John were bullies, but George wrote some
Speaker 1: beautiful songs. When in North Carolina joins us on the
Speaker 1: program high Win, Dan, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1: The email from a highly just reference is spot on.
Speaker 1: My comment is twofold, one about the Beatles, the other
Speaker 1: about the best rock and roll band ever. The first
Speaker 1: is about the Beatles. I am sixty nine years old.
Speaker 1: In sixty four I Want to Hold Your Hand came out.
Speaker 1: It was like a Thermo nuclear explosion over the culture
Speaker 1: of not only America and the world. So, with all
Speaker 1: due respect, I think mister Parlow is profoundly ignorant when
Speaker 1: he just assigns the early Beatles period to some pop phenomena. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not they changed the world forever, Dan, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just set simple. Secondly, the best rock and roll
Speaker 1: band in the world is the Rolling Stones. Example or
Speaker 1: exhibit a exile on main Street, the best album ever done,
Speaker 1: followed closely by Lenny Calling on the Clash, right, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you win Well you had me until you said
Speaker 1: the clash, and I went, no, I'm sorry. I like
Speaker 1: the clash, don't love the clash. Exile on Main Street.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the one they recorded in the South of France? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the greatest album of all time. Some of the
Speaker 1: Beatles aren't on those songs because they couldn't wake them up.
Speaker 1: Everybody was in a drug stooper back then, which maybe
Speaker 1: that helped them. I don't know, Yes, ignorant mclovin, how
Speaker 1: can you love led Zeppelin who rocked so hard and
Speaker 1: then sit by with I want to hold your hand
Speaker 1: like I feel like you're more of a you know,
Speaker 1: like I don't know why you're not back in some
Speaker 1: of the harder rocking bands and the Beatles, you know,
Speaker 1: I love them, but I have to the Beatles are
Speaker 1: separate from the Stones and the Who and Zeppelin. You know,
Speaker 1: if you throw in Arrowsmith or whoever you want to
Speaker 1: throw in there. I love rock and roll. The Stones
Speaker 1: are the greatest rock and roll band of all time.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. I saw them in concert
Speaker 1: back in the seventies. They lived up to everything I
Speaker 1: thought they were going to be. And then some saw
Speaker 1: the Who back in the seventies, they lived up to
Speaker 1: everything I thought. Zeppelin in the mid seventies they lived
Speaker 1: up to everything. Pink Floyd on the Animals Tour lived
Speaker 1: up to everything I thought. I didn't see the Beatles,
Speaker 1: but the Beatles weren't experience. These other bands weren't an experience.
Speaker 1: The Beatles were a thing, like this moving thing, and
Speaker 1: their music has withstood the test of time. And you
Speaker 1: can play I Want to hold your Hand to the
Speaker 1: Long and Winding Road or Let it Be or whatever
Speaker 1: those songs are. And I mean the Magical Mystery Tour,
Speaker 1: Sergeant Pepper. I mean it's just brilliant, like out of
Speaker 1: this world crazy greatness there. Yeah, yeah, I mean right,
Speaker 1: there's sort of it seems like there's more of a
Speaker 1: cultural revolution thing, like where they changed the way people dressed,
Speaker 1: in their haircuts and things like that, and it's wrapped
Speaker 1: up in more than just music. But at a certain
Speaker 1: point you do have to just you have to let
Speaker 1: go of just I want to hold your hand and
Speaker 1: recognize them as the whole yea like totality of the Beatles,
Speaker 1: not just the pop song. I think because they did
Speaker 1: I Want to Hold Your Hand, and then you listen
Speaker 1: to what they wrote at the end of their career.
Speaker 1: That's where you go, oh my god, from from that,
Speaker 1: from A to Z and it's the same band. Yeah, club,
Speaker 1: are we got to address the fact that let It
Speaker 1: Be in Yesterday are basically the same song? Or is
Speaker 1: anyone ever going to bring that up? You're an ignorant fool.
Speaker 1: It's a great song, but it's the same song. All right,
Speaker 1: Well so is every ac DC song. WHOA, yeah, it's done. Yes, Yes.
Speaker 1: The Beatles are kind of like in that Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: category where people will defend him to the death and
Speaker 1: won't hear anything else, which is fine, And but it's
Speaker 1: almost like the Beatles could use a ten part documentary
Speaker 1: now as a reminder. I don't know where it would go,
Speaker 1: but that that's a band where if you're seventeen, you
Speaker 1: have no reference for the Beatles, you know, It's like
Speaker 1: you don't know Michael Jordan if you're seventeen, eighteen ninety,
Speaker 1: But this, this docuseries is giving you everything you need
Speaker 1: to know. Yeah, but I think music is different than
Speaker 1: watching somebody play basketball, where you go, okay, that's not
Speaker 1: my style of mute. When you watch basketball, you're watching
Speaker 1: somebody do something you can't do. Now you're listening to
Speaker 1: somebody do something you can't do. But it's just different
Speaker 1: with music. You may not like it. I can listen
Speaker 1: to Ozzy Osbourne. I'm not an Ozzy Osbourne fan, but
Speaker 1: I marvel at what he's able to do. I'm not
Speaker 1: the big Rush fan that Paulie is, but I marvel
Speaker 1: at what Getty Lee does. I'm good with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but that doesn't with Jordan. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: no refuting that. You just say. I mean, that's amazing
Speaker 1: you compared Jordan to Rush. Love your boss, that employant
Speaker 1: man Reggie and Mississippi Reggie. What's on your mind? Hey Dan,
Speaker 1: good morning? Huh, what's Wronging's wrong? I'm actually laughing. I'm
Speaker 1: at work, okay. But chat Roe is on fire right now? Why?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the Beatles fine Bomb somebody somebody
Speaker 1: referred to the actual which banded the Crome Bomb like
Speaker 1: good Baby said, he's smifis he's got to be three
Speaker 1: six Mafia. So that's that's fine. Bomb's second favorite is
Speaker 1: three to six. Didn't they win an Academy Award? Didn't Oh?
Speaker 1: I love that. Thanks for the phone called Reggie Hustle
Speaker 1: and Flow. Who Yeah, that's that's a pretty that's good.
Speaker 1: That good stuff. That's good stuff. Man. Terrence Howard was
Speaker 1: so good there just by just hoping somebody would hear
Speaker 1: his music, thought he was going to be something. Jimmy
Speaker 1: and Chicago. Hi, Jimmy, what do you have for me today? Heyden?
Speaker 1: I just wanted to comment, Um, you know, I think
Speaker 1: it's amazing after all these years that the Beatles are
Speaker 1: still regarded as the best band. You know, when you
Speaker 1: bring when you ask that question, it's like they're always
Speaker 1: the first one you'll you'll bring up. Yeah. Um, but
Speaker 1: you got three of the best singers of all time
Speaker 1: in one band. Um, those Levin, McCarty and Harrison. Those
Speaker 1: are my top five, um, top five, top ten do
Speaker 1: And I think just the songwriting, like you said, and
Speaker 1: Lennon McCartney that too, and Harrison writing all those great hits,
Speaker 1: you know, they're up there. And that being said, I
Speaker 1: think the beaded music is everyone can have their own
Speaker 1: favorite bed, which is another cool thing. And I also
Speaker 1: would say that Led Zeppelin, I'm only thirty seven, but
Speaker 1: I can put any song like, I'll just throw them
Speaker 1: on and like nine out of ten songs, I'll just
Speaker 1: like just start rocking love led Zeppelin. They might be
Speaker 1: the greatest rock bed in my opinion. Well, I think
Speaker 1: if they were around longer. Thank you Jimmy, And look,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a big Zeppelin fan. That time that we were,
Speaker 1: were we in Memphis, Paulie Yes, at the Peabody Hotel. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think for like that auto zone football thing with Mannings.
Speaker 1: I think we're down there with Archie Manning. Archie Manning
Speaker 1: and I went to the lobby and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Robert Planned, the lead singer Zeppelin, was sitting with his guys.
Speaker 1: Her face was like like very serious. I didn't know
Speaker 1: what to do. Yes, I thought, oh my god, should
Speaker 1: do I Like, he didn't know who I am, but
Speaker 1: he's got his band, and I thought maybe I walked
Speaker 1: around the table, hoping that a member of his band
Speaker 1: would go hey, Dan Patrick, and then I would go, oh, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: how are you. I remember we were in the corner
Speaker 1: of beers. I'm like, just do walk by no, keep
Speaker 1: doing labs until someone notices you. I'm walking around the
Speaker 1: table and I'm keeping, you know, a safe distance, and
Speaker 1: here's Robert Plant. He's at the table and he's just
Speaker 1: you know, he's casually dressed, jeans, T shirt or something,
Speaker 1: and I'm going, what do I do. It's like when
Speaker 1: there's a girl in the bar and you go, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna go over and say anything, and your buddy goes, go,
Speaker 1: go say something too. Paulie was the guy going, go go.
Speaker 1: And then I never did it, And you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't. Yeah, it's the right move, yep,
Speaker 1: because I know I would have screwed it up. Mister Plant,
Speaker 1: I love you. On Stairway to Heaven, can I get
Speaker 1: a picture? Hello, mister Page, I mean, mister Plan.