WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Paul Finebaum (05-06-20) 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.000 Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's our two on 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.360 this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan et Stan Patrick Show. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:12.440 Hope you had a great Cinco de Mayo. We're gonna 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:16.239 start celebrating the says Demayo the day after. I don't 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.400 know what we're celebrating, but maybe we should do that 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:21.959 because there's a lot of pressure on Cinco de Mayo. 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.959 And if you missed the first hour, you're lucky because 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.960 I talked about my virtual cooking class last night with 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:30.440 my wife and daughter. Took one for the team last night. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.080 That two and a half hours in, I said to 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.120 my wife, what are we gonna eat? All we're doing 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:41.000 is making tacos, guacamola and some margharita's. But I survived. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.440 I made it through, all right. Paul Finbaum's gonna join 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:45.680 us coming up a little bit. College Football News talked 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.800 to him about Metaworld Peace or NBA player will stop by. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.440 Jets signed Frank Or at the age of thirty seven. 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:53.800 He could end up second on the all time list 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.080 in yardage he's got. He's got eleven miles from scrimmage 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:58.920 in his career. I'm going to the Hall of Fame. 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.920 But at age thirty even are they bringing him in 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.720 to help Leveon Bell become Leveon Bell again? I was 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:10.040 talking about at the very end of last hour, we 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.880 had a caller from Cincinnati bringing up Kenny Anderson and 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:18.240 Ken Riley who played for the Bengals. Kenny Anderson was 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.280 the first quarterback to complete seventy percent of his passes 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.440 in a season. That was nineteen eighty two. That record 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:29.320 stood untill two thousand and nine. What he did in 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:34.119 nineteen eighty two lasted until Drew Brees broken in two 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:38.319 thousand and nine. Kenny Anderson lost his Super Bowl. He 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.759 lost the Super Bowl in Detroit to the forty nine 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.440 ers and Joe Montana. He played in Cincinnati. He was 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:48.440 a very good quarterback. In borderline Hall of Famer. But 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.680 we were got on that topic. I don't know how 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.040 we got on the tip. Well, we were talking about 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.440 running backs and Hall of Fame. Would you rather have 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.440 Frank Gore's career or Trelle Davis? And I said Trelle 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.680 Davis was the best running back during a three year 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.760 period in the history of the sport. He gained more 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.840 yards in the three year period, back to back to 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:12.040 back than any running back has ever done in his career. 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.840 Career cut short, a couple of Super Bowls, won an MVP, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.440 but Frank Gore is going to the Hall of Fame. McLevin, 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.160 what poll question are we gonna stay with the poll 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.600 question from last hour? Well? Yeah, we put up whose 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.360 career would you want? Terrell Davis or Frank or went 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.600 with Terrell Davis, So I guess yeah. I think it's 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.840 the Super Bowls. To be honest, I'm not sure if 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.240 you took them out it would be the same result 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.280 a couple other NFL polls if you want to hear him. Okay, okay, 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:41.720 which division champ is most likely to fall off their perch? 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:49.440 And I'll give you the top five most likely the Packers, Eagles, Texans, Patriots, 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:51.640 or Saints. And I put the Saints in just because 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.480 Tom Brady's in their division. I am going to say 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.840 the Texans. I think the Colds of the class of 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.600 that division. Well, what about the Titans too, aren't they 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.000 right there? I think the Colts are better than the Titans, 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:09.079 but you know, the Titans might be better than the Texans. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.160 We saw that at the end of the year. Will 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.560 they be able to be that same team with that 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.080 same style this year. That's what I'm curious about with 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.800 the Titans. They sort of surprised everybody second half of 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.720 the season, where it was basically, you know what's coming, 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.560 can you stop it? And teams couldn't stop Derrick Henry. 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.440 But I would say the Texans. I don't think anybody 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.440 has taken that. You know, Buffalo might be close to 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.360 being on the same level with New England, but I'd 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:42.520 still take New England. I'd still I love my Bills, 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.119 but I would still take New England. Here's a couple 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:49.200 of items here. Notre Dame Athletic director Jack Swarbrick said 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.920 that quote. There's a significant chance the college football season 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.840 could begin without all the conferences starting at the same 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:01.920 time due to the pandemic. I told you yesterday. The 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.640 information I got is the PAC twelves in trouble. That's 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:10.880 how it was labeled to me because of the travel restrictions. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.320 What's going on in California. And I think David Shaw, 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.440 Stanford's head coach, is set to join us on the 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.279 program tomorrow and I can ask him about this that 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.720 you were going to play ten games. This is what 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.080 I was told. Now, whether this happens or not, this 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.200 is what is on the table with these commissioners. You 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.960 play ten games, nine will be conference games, and then 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:36.400 you're going to be playing somebody a regional opponent. So 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.720 maybe you take a bus and you're not If they 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.400 want to restrict traveling, that's the big issue, and the 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.760 PAC twelve you got to travel and that's going to 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:47.960 be a big problem for some of these schools. Yeah. Point, 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.440 I'm most curious to see what happens. For instance, just 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.679 an example, if usc decides to have classes in person 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.840 with students in the fall and Stanford does not, and 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.080 somehow there's a rule that if you're not students aren't 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.200 in classes, the kids can't participate in sports, Which wouldn't 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.719 surprise me if that's like a university rule of Stanford, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.400 which rule would supersede the PAC twelves rule of playing 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.480 football or Stanford's rule. Again, Stanford hasn't said this. I'm 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.480 just using them as an example. If two teams in 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.800 the conference have two different plans for the school year, 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.360 how does that work out for sports? Well? Also, could 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.479 the SEC go rogue and just say we're playing football. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.120 I mean, do you guys do what you want to do? 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.200 And we have no commissioner like you have, nobody who's 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.760 overseeing this. Mark Emritt is not overseeing this. You know, 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:36.760 the SEC is more powerful than the NCIA. I mean that, 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.599 just being honest with you. The SEC could just say, hey, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:45.960 we're playing football, and when we had their commissioner on 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.480 a week ago, you know they're they're planning on playing 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:52.440 Labor Day and I don't know if you have the 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.960 Big Ten it will do the same. It really depends 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.880 on the proximity of your schools and being you know, 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.039 because it's stayed by state of what is allowable, what's 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.000 going to be permissible, and we're not going to have fans. 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.680 Will it be pushed back a little bit? I think 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.640 it's going to be delayed. Therefore you're gonna only have 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:12.240 ten games. You know, I have nine conference games, and 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.840 then you would have, you know, a game outside of 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.280 the Big Ten or the SEC or the AEC. That's 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.159 what I'm being told. But Kirk Ferren's the IOWA head coach, 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.480 will join us tomorrow. David Shaw from Stanford will join 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:25.240 us on Friday, but we'll talk to fine Boum, he'll 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.880 join us coming up. I'm being informed that the chat 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:33.400 row it's our locker room here where the listeners are sequestered. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.080 There's a big debate, a heated debate about how great 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.839 the Beatles were. McLevin. Are you involved in this? Because 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:46.160 I'm scared too, because people are really passionate. Somebody had 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.760 an interesting note in there saying that you can't trust 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.160 anyone who does not like the Beatles or does not 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.640 love the Beatles, can't trust them. I don't know if 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.080 I go that far. I can't trust your music judgment. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.240 And like, I'm not gonna assess you as a person 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.560 if you don't like the Beatles, but I will assess 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:07.440 your musical taste if you don't appreciate the Beatles. Is 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:09.920 that what they're talking about or is this no, no, no, 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.320 They're going way beyond Like this is a this is 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.400 a gloves off debate on the Beatles. How can you 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:20.680 debate the greatness of the Beatles? Well, I think the 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.800 problem with people and the Beatles is they don't like 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:27.480 being told that they're great and being being forced out 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.480 to them that the Beatles are the greatest band of 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.120 all time. And you have to shut up now. I 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.840 think people who are hardcore Beatles fans are not there's 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.240 no wiggle room with the Beatles, and people who are 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.640 not hardcore fans of them are like, hey, I don't 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.120 want to be told that they're the greatest. Let me 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.000 decide from l Well, you don't have to say they're 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.200 the greatest to agree with that, but you, I think, 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.800 have to have an understanding of what they did and 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.480 how they did it and how big they were that 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:54.320 they went from being one direction a pop band to 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:59.280 becoming this, you know, brilliant band with you know, the 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.840 technolog everything that was involved in it. You know that 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:07.280 I am baffled when people say, like mclovind, does the 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.960 Beatles are overrated? Yes, yes, mcclemm. I think it's that 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.080 one direction period that confuses a lot of people because 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.040 we hear the songs you hear or I want to 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.880 hold your Hand and the poppy songs which do not 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:22.280 fit that white album mirror. So it's it's confusing because 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:23.800 I wasn't there, but so I hear I want to 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.120 hold your hand, I'm like, ah, that's just a you know, 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.160 it's Debbie Gibson for all you know, that's just a 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.800 pop song. But but you're not stop one direction, stopped there. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.280 I can't believe I'm bring up one direction with the Beatles, 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.320 but you're stopping in in the poppy period. Now look 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.120 at what they did and then you do the White 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:45.640 Album and Sergeant Pepper. I mean, come on, nobody Nobody 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.720 comes close to that. No one, no one, no one, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.760 no one. How about like the Zeppelin, Rolling Stones nose 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.760 not close, that's no. The Stones would be because you 0:08:55.880 --> 0:09:01.560 got unbelievable songs, great music. They stayed together, you know, 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.720 the Beatles were Sandy Kofax. You know, it was like 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.120 an eight year period where you went, they're the best. 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.880 It's not even close that they're the best. And everybody 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.280 who followed tried to follow suit with them and tried 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.439 to do what they did, and it's just not close. No, 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.240 And look, I have great respect for music and bands 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.760 and those that stay together and those that happened upon 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.960 the scene for a few years what the Beatles did, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:32.520 and that music still plays, It does still plays. Yeami Club. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.280 Mick Jagger and McCartney had been giving a lot of 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.079 interviews on this topically. I don't know if you guys 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.320 have seen it. There was a big GQ article. Jaggar 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.400 pointed out that the Beatles never got to do the 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.160 stadium tours and he wasn't sure what would have happened. 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.079 He said, the rolling Stones may not have been greater, 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.240 but we lasted through that period and he didn't know 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.840 if the Beatles could do the stadium tours. What does 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.640 that mean that they they couldn't do stadium tours? Well, 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:58.080 he said the Stones they didn't want to it away. Yeah, yeah, No. 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.560 Jagger was not to denigrating. He amidst the Beatles are amazing, 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.600 but he's saying, like, give the Stones credit for sort 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:09.800 of ushering in this huge stadium tour thing. Well, I 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.360 can't see the Beatles really doing with the Stones, did 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.440 could they? You know? Those? Well, they look at what 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:18.280 they did at Shasee Stadium. Shasee Stadium was so loud 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:23.439 the Beatles couldn't hear themselves. They created such a frenzy. 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.080 They didn't like it though, it seemed like they eat 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.800 they chose not to tour like that, right. That's sort 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.560 of a Jagger saying, well, I'm going to give him 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.640 credit because they decided to do it, and the Beatles 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.200 said no, we're not doing it. I mean, I give 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.080 the Stones a lot of credit for a lot of things, 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:43.360 but hey, you played you know, stadiums. We congratulations, So 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.160 did Oasis. Yeah. The Beatles only toured for two and 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.640 a half years in America after they broke in sixty 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.640 three sixty four. Their last concert, their last live concerts 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.800 Candlestick Park in sixty six. So basically they had a 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.040 less than a three year run of live touring in 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.680 America and they were together for three and a half 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:07.280 years four years after that without playing live, but they 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.880 were cranking out albums. It felt like they were doing 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.719 an album, you know, maybe two albums, one and a 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.640 half albums every year. It felt like, here's a tidbit, 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.839 by the way, I just found the last concert the 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.600 Beatles ever played was Candlestick Park. The capacity was forty 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.280 two five hundred that night. They did not sell out. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.640 Only twenty five thousand tickets were sold, and the Beatles 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.480 were frustrated by that because they're like they didn't like 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:32.760 the whole atmosphere in general, that big concert atmosphere, and 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.559 then when they found they didn't sell it out, they 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.640 were I want to use the word embarrassed, but some 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.600 in the story I'm reading that they were not pleased 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.920 with how it went, whether as the promoter's fault or whatever. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:47.280 It was overrated. Do you think they're overrated? Seatonal Counter 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:51.640 can't even sell out Candlestick. Really, do you think they're overrated? 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:56.400 The Beatles? Yeah? No, no, of course not good. We 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.320 don't always agree with music, Seaton and myself, but we 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.640 agree on the Beatles not overrated. Todd, who knows nothing 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.959 about music, Yeah, a little much. I among me and 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:09.000 mclovin camp of I respect and admire what they accomplished, 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.160 but some people could be great. Doesn't mean you have 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:15.439 to love them just because they're great. Yeah, you got 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.840 to take time to listen and understand. I think the 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:22.000 greatness I mean it's not Hall and Oates, it's not you. 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.400 They are not. In fact, you know that's McCartney's biggest regret. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.480 He and Lennon were just not Hall of Oates. They 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:32.679 wish they did. I can't go for that, no Candor, 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:34.360 But you know, not everybody can know, because that's a 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:38.160 really complex song that's very deep. Yes, Eton I do 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.680 think well, I think the Beatles are great, and I 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.520 don't think they're over at all. I do think some 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:47.520 of their greatness is attributed to the fact that there's 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.240 like a generation of people right now who are teenagers 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.880 then who are sort of in control of like the 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:56.320 media and everything else and are obsessed with making sure 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.720 the Beatles remain the greatest band of all time. Wait, 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:04.920 there's there's a movement of a foot here with younger kids. No, 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.719 I don't think, no, there's no. There's a generation of 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.239 people who were teenagers were oh I thought the teenagers 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.360 were coming. No, no, no no, no, no. The people who 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.679 were like teenagers when the Beatles came out and they 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.400 made a huge, you know, such a huge impact on 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.920 them culturally that those people are now you know, all 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.240 adults and you know, are in charge of sort of 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.880 the media and record companies and radio stations and all 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.280 of those things, and they are obsessed with the idea 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.320 of the Beatles remaining the greatest band of all time. Yeah. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.599 The band that people don't like are The guy that 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.080 people don't like getting pushed upon is Bruce Springsteen. Because 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.240 a lot of people are told you have to love 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.320 the Boss. I've seen that a lot with people rebound 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.040 against that and sort of I think he gets underrated 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:53.839 sometimes because people don't like to be pushed on Bruce Springsteen. Well, 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.920 you what gets pushed upon you was Springsteen in concert, 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.160 not necessarily as music, but in concert because oh you 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.400 gotta go see three and a half hours. Oh man, 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.480 he gives you everything. Okay, I get it. And I 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.120 saw him on the Tunnel Love Tour and he would 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.280 put on a great show. I saw him on Broadway 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.280 put on a great show. He's wonderful. I mean truly, 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.760 you know, one of the great a singer songwriter, which 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.920 is rare, and the different genres that he's tapped into. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.440 I mean, listen to Nebraska, Good God, and then you 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.200 do the Ghost of Tom Joad, and then you do 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.480 this country album that he just put out and then 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:36.240 did a movie too. I mean, his resume is unbelievable. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:41.440 It's it's true, it truly truly remarkable. It's like a 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:46.560 better sounding Dylan, a more polished Bob Dylan, and sustainability 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.600 still relevant powerful yeah. Point. For the past year or so, 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.440 I've been listening to the Tom pat Petty channel. I 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.480 think he's becoming and he always was one of my 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:58.240 favorite artists, but he might be my favorite all time, 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.120 because I just think his music is fantastic. It's bluesy, 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.640 it's it's rockabilly, it's it's got strings, there's all kinds 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.840 of different stuff. I don't think he was ever considered, 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:08.800 you know, the biggest star in the world ever, or 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:10.840 I don't know how he's gonna be treated by history. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.400 But his music is fantastic, and even the stuff that 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.960 the B sides I've never heard before, I really love it. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.720 I'm fortunate my wife got me tickets. It was a 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:23.120 few months before Tom died, and I always wanted to 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.480 go see Petty in concert. And uh, I was driving 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.800 in today I'm learning to fly but I ain't cut 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:31.720 Wings came on and I just said, it's it's just 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:36.240 it's it's a brilliant song, great sounding band. But he 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.840 got in with the Traveling Willberries, so he was in 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.800 with George Harrison, Mike Lynn from Yellow and Bob Dylan, 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:47.560 and so it felt like Petty was always overshadowed. There 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.160 was always somebody else that was going to overshadow him. 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.240 But you go back, he got hits. Man, That's that's 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.960 quite a catalog that he's got there. Yeah, see have 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.440 you um watch We've mentioned it a couple of times yet, 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.760 but I don't remember if you've watched that the Yesterday 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.040 movies about that. That's pretty good. Yeah it is. It's cute. 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:09.160 I like it. Yeah. Yeah, So people don't know, they 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.440 have never heard of the Beatles, and then this guy 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.840 starts singing the Beatles songs. He becomes this huge hit 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.600 and uh, you know, Ed Sheeran makes a cameo in there, 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:22.880 and it's cute. I'd liked it, yeah, mcglove. I watched it, 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.120 came away with a new appreciation for how powerful of 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.240 the Beatles were. Yeah. I loved it. I thought it 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.960 was cool. Yeah, just the fact that you know, they 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.280 got ahold of McCartney and Paul was like, yeah, you 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.880 could do it. There was the other movie about Springsteen 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.080 that they got ahold of Springsteen to say, can we 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.280 do you know? There was a I know a boy 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.440 in England who was obsessed with Springsteen and the lyrics 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.240 that Springsteen, you know, out on a cassette. Yeah, mclovin. 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.000 It was called Blinded by the Light. Yeah, yeah, all right, 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.680 Paul Feinbaum will join us. Coming up. Let me get 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:55.880 to Chip in Maine High Chip. What do you have 0:16:55.960 --> 0:17:00.640 for me today, good sir, doing great? Want off of this. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.400 I think the Beatles. Part of the attractions of the 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.160 Beatles for music fans is we always you know, music 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.960 fans often argue, um, you know, who is the best 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.679 band in the world versus who is the most popular 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.080 fan of the world, and those who sell them to 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.919 sell them both. But I think the Beatles are unique 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:17.840 in that for a moment in time, whether it be 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.359 three years or five years or whatever it is, I 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.480 don't think any other fan can take the claim that 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.640 they were both the undisputed as best band and most 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:26.880 popular band of the world save time. All Right, that's 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:32.719 good stuff, Chip, Thank you? Yeah? And what else? Thank you? Okay, 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.200 thank you Chip, Dan in Chicago. Then we'll take a break. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:39.080 Hey Dan, Hey Dan. H just want to say, um, 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.240 you know, I think for me, I just turned thirty, 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.679 and a lot of it depends on who your folks 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:47.320 listening to. Growing up, my dad was a big Zeppelin fan, 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.879 me and both of my brothers. The first phrase we 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.680 ever spoke was zep Zeppelin rules and he made sure 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.600 of it. What I think a lot of it has 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.720 to do is you know, again, well your parents listening to. 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:00.760 Now there is an artist that I did not grow 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.560 up listening to that I'm absolutely in love with Billy Joel. 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.320 I think it is, you know, right up there with 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:10.800 Springsteen stands the test of time, great singer, songwriter, musician, showman. 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.520 I've seen him in Rigley like three times. So I 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.199 think a lot of it just kind of depends on 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.520 who did you grow up with, and if you are 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.800 of the younger generation and can appreciate someone that you 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.920 didn't have forced upon you that really he says something too, 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.120 I think there's something and thank you, Dan. I think 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.680 it's just by proxy where you're listening. You know. I 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.840 make sure my kids when I'm when I'm at home 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.560 there at home, I controlled the music. I want them 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.000 listening to good music. And I said, look, you can 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.800 introduce me to people that you like Lizzo. Over Thanksgiving. 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.840 My daughter's like, Dad, it's time, man, it's time. Post Malone. Dad, 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.399 It's time. And I'm going kicking and screaming, and then 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.840 all of a sudden, I go, thank you. I enjoy Lizzo. 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.840 I think post Malone. He did the Nirvana concert I did, 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.639 did you watch that? It was so good? Really good, great, 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:05.280 well he's got a Nirvana lyric on his face. I just, 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.959 you know, I let them tell me some you know 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.640 musical artists that I might miss, and you know, sometimes 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.359 I go nope. But they have to know the core. 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.800 They have to know what is great music, and that's 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:22.200 Chuck Berry, Little Richard. I mean there's other, you know influences. 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.359 I mean the Beatles were influenced by Little Richard and 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:29.760 Chuck Berry greatly, the Stones and who influenced them? Listening 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:34.760 to those songs as well, Led Zeppelin influenced by black artist. 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.760 Just understanding that, you know, it makes you a little 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:40.919 bit more well rounded when you get into a conversation 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.280 with the chat row take a break here, more phone 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:48.480 calls coming up. I don't know if Paul Finbaum loves music. 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:55.640 If we're trying to guess Paul Feinbaum's favorite band, he's 0:19:55.680 --> 0:20:00.960 sixty four, he's probably went on sixty four sixty probably 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:02.560 I gotta go to break. Oh, I'll just give you 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:04.800 a set up. No, we gotta wait and then we 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.080 get fine, but you do your research during the commercial break. 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:08.960 All right, all right, thank you. Twenty one after the hour. 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.119 This is the Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening. To 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.479 The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:17.040 live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.000 to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.480 station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.119 dot com, or stream us live every day on the 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:29.840 iHeartRadio app by searching f s R. Well, I just 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:34.720 got some information. Tyler, the moderator moderates the chat Row. 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:39.720 He said there was no real debate about the Beatles 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:46.440 and chat Row mcloven may have sensationalized this a little 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:51.240 bit embracing debate apparently, so we'll check in with mcloven. 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.800 Poor Tyler the moderator got roughed up by chat Row. 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:57.480 They said, you leak this information. So Tyler's back there 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:02.680 ducking for cover. Alrighty uh, let me see. We'll talk 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:04.840 to metaworld Peace coming up in a little bit. Let's 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.560 make way for Paul Feinbaum, the popular New York Times 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:11.280 bestselling author, ESPN commentator, and you can listen to him 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.879 on ESPN Radio every single day, Monday through Friday. All right, 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.960 here was the guest of Paul. We were wondering your 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:22.520 favorite artist or band growing up. Now save your answer. 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:27.800