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Speaker 1: because the NFL continues to hate us, those of us

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Speaker 1: with the Saturday games because we've got Carolina and Tampa

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. And I gotta tell you, I told you

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Speaker 1: before the show started, and I'm sticking to it. I

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Speaker 1: don't want either of these teams in the playoffs. I

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Speaker 1: hate them both. I'm sick to death of both of them.

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Speaker 1: I want the New Orleans Saints in the playoffs, which

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Speaker 1: have that, but I don't want to see Carolina. I

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Speaker 1: feel like Kevin McAllister in home alone. I don't want

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Speaker 1: That's how I feel about those two teams. So let's

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Speaker 1: about this game. Plus three and a half here for

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, minus two and a half for Tampa

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Speaker 1: You got forty three for the over, forty four and

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Speaker 1: a half for the under, plus one forty four in

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Speaker 1: the money line for the Carolina Panthers, and minus one

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Speaker 1: forty five. So if if my math is mathing, we

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Speaker 1: have the favorites being the Buccaneers and Baker Mayfield at home,

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Speaker 1: which means you have to be picking the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Am I right?

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Speaker 2: This is the easiest handicap all week. My best bet

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Speaker 2: of the week, I can tell you right now. It's

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Speaker 2: Caro A lot of Panthers on the money line. Look,

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Speaker 2: why are we doing this with Tampa Bay again? Why

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Speaker 2: are they favored? Why are they better because they're at home? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Because how great has that been for them over the

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Speaker 2: past eight weeks when they just lose game after game,

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Speaker 2: this loss of the Miami Dolphins. The Miami Dolphins are

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Speaker 2: now are picking higher in the draft than the Buccaneers

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Speaker 2: are because their record is so bad. I the Panthers, right,

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Speaker 2: we talked about this last week. Faded the Panthers because

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Speaker 2: what happened they were coming off a win. You fade

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Speaker 2: them after they win games, and you bet on them

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Speaker 2: aggressively after they lose. Undefeated against the spread after a loss,

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Speaker 2: what do they do against Seattle?

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Speaker 2: They lost because they didn't need that game. They need

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Speaker 2: this game against Tampa Bay. Who continues to just be

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Speaker 2: circling the wagon. Man, This team is just in dismay.

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Speaker 2: Mayfield's probably not healthy, right, that's probably he's probably been

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Speaker 2: is just like betting NFL one oh one with this year.

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Speaker 2: You fade Baker Mayfield as a home favorite in the division,

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Speaker 2: Carolina coming off a loss. Best bet of the week

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Speaker 2: right now, I'm giving out here in Week eighteen, Carolina

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Speaker 2: Panthers against the spread on the money line. And Joe,

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Speaker 2: I know you're not excited about this. I am because

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Speaker 2: I know where I'm gonna be sitting four o'clock on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Right, Let's go to Seattle San Francisco. This one far

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Speaker 1: more appealing. San Francisco winning in a huge total game

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Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine for the over, forty and a half

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Speaker 2: Yeah? The eyeball test definitely says fort niners right. The

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Speaker 2: way the two quarterbacks are playing right now couldn't be

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Speaker 2: the verge of an implosion. Every single dropback he takes

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Speaker 2: like he can do no wrong. Despite Noel George Kittle

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Speaker 2: Rock Purty scoring a ton of fantasy points. But we

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Speaker 2: do know how good Seattle is on the road Like

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Speaker 2: this team is battle tested, Mike McDonald gets his team ready.

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Speaker 2: They're built to play on the road with a good defense,

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Speaker 2: running game that Zach Sharbonney played really well against Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna trust the process here and just bet

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Speaker 2: eyeball test would suggest otherwise, but I'm gonna chase the trends.

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Speaker 2: That's been very profitable for Seattle, So I think Seattle

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Speaker 2: wins this game on the road locks up the number

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Speaker 1: Sunday's games too. Enough of that Saturday nonsense. Let's talk Tennessee. Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: The Jags ten and a half point favorites at home,

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Speaker 1: What do you make of this one here, Eric Drew?

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Speaker 2: Probably one that I'm gonna shy away from. Division game,

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Speaker 2: massive points spread, Jacksonville still in play for the number

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Speaker 2: well those games are over. Let's get Trevor Lawrence out

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Speaker 1: The Patriots are playing at four o'clock and the Broncos

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Speaker 1: So here's that thing which is really interesting. So basically Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, still a big, big, big, big point spread that

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Speaker 1: Taking over Houston their ten point favorites. You're getting them

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Speaker 1: weren't they like eight and three at one point or

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Speaker 2: Probably not? No, I know that we're gonna get Riley

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Speaker 2: away from James Cooks. Maybe that's something that they are

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Speaker 2: this massive spread. So for me, again, divisional game safety

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Speaker 1: Another in division game. That's what we've got all division

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Speaker 1: a half. You're getting Cincinnati minus seven at home, forty

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Speaker 1: or the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Bengals coming off of

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Speaker 2: big win, but they're on the road. I prefer them

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Speaker 2: This is probably gonna have a lot of bad weather,

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Speaker 1: All right, this one is my favorite of the week.

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Speaker 2: you're right, Joe wasn't enthusiastic enough. These lines don't make

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Speaker 1: Let's go Tyler. Schuck is actually second plus one oh five.

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Speaker 2: So again, I'm a lot invested in this Carolina Panthers game.

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Speaker 1: here the green Bay Packers the Minnesota Vikings want wah

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Speaker 2: I would just bet the under right now because you

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Speaker 2: Even if it was Jordan Love, we could see this

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Speaker 2: I know it's really easy. Oh well, this team has

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Speaker 2: We see this every single year where one team has

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Speaker 2: don't have confidence that he should be favored in any

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Speaker 2: just bet against this game just being good.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Giants says something to play for it last week,

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Speaker 1: for some reason. I can't tell you why, Like if

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Speaker 2: I think that the Cowboys are probably going to kill

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Speaker 1: I think you think Dak plays and everybody plays too.

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Speaker 2: I think Schottenheimer wants to finish the season on a

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Speaker 1: Well he can't avoid a losing record. They are seven

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Speaker 1: Well, I still like the Giants with the five and

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Speaker 1: So the Lions have a chance here to go nine

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Speaker 2: I originally wanted to be on the Lions here, but

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Speaker 2: number two or number three. And they've already gone on

431
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Speaker 2: the road and beaten Philadelphia. So is that like a, oh,

432
00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,800
Speaker 2: we're afraid to go to Philly and beat the Eagles

433
00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,879
Speaker 2: like they did. They're already so I'm not so sure. Like,

434
00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,160
Speaker 2: especially with the Bears coming off a Sunday night primetime

435
00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,000
Speaker 2: loss again a really fun game, I think maybe they

436
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,720
Speaker 2: come out a little bit more flat and be like, hey,

437
00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,480
Speaker 2: we're in the playoffs. That's what we're looking for. We

438
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,120
Speaker 2: won the division because Green Bay lost, So I think

439
00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,399
Speaker 2: maybe this is kind of an underwhelming gross game. And

440
00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that Dan Campbell is going to lay

441
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,359
Speaker 2: down to Ben Johnson right like, especially how bad his

442
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,720
Speaker 2: team looked and played offensively against the Minnesota Vikings. So

443
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,720
Speaker 2: I think that the Detroit Lions, we're gonna play some

444
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,520
Speaker 2: inspired football here to try to end the season on

445
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,639
Speaker 2: a high note in Week eighteen, because I think that

446
00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,679
Speaker 2: what Dan Campbell does as the head coach, So I

447
00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,200
Speaker 2: think maybe we get a bet of a better defensive

448
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,200
Speaker 2: effort from them. So I like the under fifty and

449
00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:58,600
Speaker 2: a half.

450
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Speaker 1: Whatever the opposite of inspired is. That's what you saw

451
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,080
Speaker 1: from the Jets on Sunday. The Jets now three and

452
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 1: thirteen after getting their doors blown out by the Patriots,

453
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,120
Speaker 1: which everybody saw coming. Buffalo Bills eleven and five. Tough

454
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 1: loss for them at home against the Eagles in the rain.

455
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 1: Could not get the extra point, could not make the

456
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 1: game winning pass there into the end zone. So tough

457
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,720
Speaker 1: times there for the Buffalo Bills. Crimeer River minus ten

458
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,880
Speaker 1: and a half for the Buffalo Bills plus twelve here

459
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 1: for the New York Jets, thirty nine for the over,

460
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 1: forty and a half for the under, plus five thirty

461
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,679
Speaker 1: for the Jets. On the money line, it's been a

462
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,720
Speaker 1: miserable season for the Jets. Buffalo. It's been a it's

463
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 1: a tough one. It's been an up and down year

464
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. But certainly the Bills with double

465
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,400
Speaker 1: digits feels right here.

466
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 2: I disagree. I don't think of the Buffalo now what.

467
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 2: Buffalo's not really playing for much. They can't move out

468
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,719
Speaker 2: of the wildcard spot. They're either locked into the six

469
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 2: or seven seed. And is it the most important thing

470
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,160
Speaker 2: for the Buffalo's playoff implications is Josh Allen one hundred

471
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,880
Speaker 2: percent healthy? And he hasn't been the last two weeks.

472
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 2: He's been dealing with injuries. So I don't really think

473
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 2: Buffalo is trying what's the point of winning this game

474
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,919
Speaker 2: and trudging Josh Allen out there when he's less than

475
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. So I think that this is way off.

476
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Speaker 2: I would take the Jets here with the double digit

477
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 2: points because I think that this line is going to

478
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,719
Speaker 2: move in favor of New York. Because I think that

479
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 2: the narrative is going to be, Oh, well, the Bills

480
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: don't have anything to play for Josh Allen is banged up.

481
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 2: If they go to the playoffs, the only thing that

482
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 2: matters is Josh Allen Superman, because at that point they

483
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 2: can beat anybody if he is playing out one hundred percent.

484
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,880
Speaker 2: So I would, Yeah, I like the Jets here.

485
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 1: All right, So Lee, you're on the Jets. I'm on

486
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Speaker 1: the Bills on this side. Next one here, Los Angeles Chargers,

487
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. Look, that offensive line has been a problem

488
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 1: here for the Chargers, and Justin Herb was running for

489
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 1: his life on Saturday. Plus nine and a half here,

490
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,439
Speaker 1: that's what you're getting for the Chargers, minus seven for

491
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 1: the Broncos at home, thirty nine for the over. Very

492
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 1: low numbers here, thirty nine and a half for the under.

493
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 1: Plus three point fifteen some very low number here for

494
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 1: these two teams. And I get it. I understand kind

495
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: of why we're at this point, but it feels like

496
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 1: it's begging for me to take the over.

497
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 2: Not if Trey Lance is the quarterback for the Los

498
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 2: Angeles Chargers, So I am going to I probably take

499
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 2: the Broncos. Honestly, as touchdown favorites. We've seen the Broncos

500
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 2: in the spot before last year against Week eighteen, they

501
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 2: played the Chiefs backups and they destroyed the Chiefs backups players.

502
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 2: So I don't think there's no confirmation whether Harbaugh is

503
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: going to rest guys on his starting roster between Justin Herbert.

504
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 2: But again, another situation where the Chargers can move their

505
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 2: wild card seeding. Maybe they're the sixth seed, maybe the

506
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 2: seventh seed. Again, going back to what matters the most

507
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 2: for the Chargers in the postseason is their quarterback healthy,

508
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: and right now he's still playing with their broken hand,

509
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 2: so why not give him the week off, try to

510
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: get some continuity on the offensive line, maybe get some

511
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: guys healthier, and know that, hey, when the first round

512
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: of the playoffs comes along, we're a little bit in

513
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: a better shape because this game is basically meaningless for

514
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 2: the lost Angeys Charge whereas the the Broncos are playing

515
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 2: for the number one seed, so they really want to

516
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: win this game, and I think that they will in

517
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 2: by double digits. So give me the Broncos laying the points.

518
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: You're not wrong, but I think he's gonna apply the

519
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: current plays. But we'll see. We'll see obviously, depending on

520
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: what you think is the early line action here. In

521
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: the early value, Miami, New England is the next one here.

522
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,479
Speaker 1: New England nine a half point favorites at home. Ten

523
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: and a half points is what you're getting here for

524
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. Forty five and a half for the over,

525
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: forty six and a half for the under plus four

526
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: fifty six. So again, number one seed here is in

527
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 1: play if the Broncos lose and the Patriots win. So

528
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 1: bye week is always nice to have two home games

529
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: on the way to the super Bowl. Always nice to have.

530
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: I think New England is gonna come out ready to play,

531
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: and Drake May is playing out of his mind. He

532
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: had more touchdowns and incompletions on Sunday. So Patriots nine

533
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: and a half. It's a big number, But I think

534
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins are out of their class right now.

535
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't really have a good read on this

536
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: game because I don't know exactly what the Patriots are

537
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: going to be playing for here, because I just don't

538
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 2: expect if we get news that Justin Herbert's not going

539
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 2: to play, is Mike Rable going to kind of take

540
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: a step back and think, Okay, like do we really

541
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: need to go all out in this particular game against

542
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 2: Miami knowing that the Broncos are probably going to win

543
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 2: and that means we're going to be locked into they you.

544
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: Know what, Maybe maybe that happens, but I don't know.

545
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm still on the Justin Herbert's going

546
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: to play, I'm still on the Harball expressive is what

547
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: we do.

548
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 2: We play why but like he's their best player and he's.

549
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: Because they Yeah, but it's the indivision opponent, and you

550
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: want to stick it to them, you want to knock

551
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: it like it's It's a whole psychological football machismo thing

552
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: for Harball. I think that's my That's just my take

553
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: on the kind of coach Harball is and what I've

554
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: seen from him over the years. And I think that

555
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: you know, your your logic is good, but the aggressiveness

556
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: there of that Harball culture, I think is like, you

557
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: go out there to compete, and we have a game

558
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: to compete in against an indivision opponent, and you can

559
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: knock them down a peg that might serve you better

560
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: long term in the playoffs as well, when you know

561
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: you don't have to necessarily go through Denver again, you

562
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I'm just saying it's it's tricky.

563
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: It's definitely triggy. Obviously, it's Monday, Monday morning, we're recording this.

564
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot of questions here, and I can understand

565
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: you being, you know, cautious of the New England matchup

566
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: because of that.

567
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: Well, they're going to go through Denver regardless, because it

568
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: never won the division. So if it's right.

569
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: But like giving Denver two home games and a buy

570
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: it's kind of like sending your division opponent, you know,

571
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: with the Golden ticket. And I just don't know if

572
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh is going to do that.

573
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: That's fair, and we'll find out together when we get

574
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: news about it together. So down here for the Patriots,

575
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 2: I would say that it does work in their favor. Again,

576
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: if you want to lay the points with the Patriots,

577
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: is that we talked about this earlier. Jacksonville plays earlier

578
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: than New England and Denver does, and if Jacksonville wins,

579
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: the Patriots could fall to the number three seed, which

580
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: means they have to go on the road to Jacksonville

581
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,719
Speaker 2: if they end up losing this game. So I think

582
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: for the most part, you'll probably see the main starters

583
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: for the New England Patriots play here. To your point,

584
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel would also probably fit into that category of Okay,

585
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: physically imposing. We want to make sure that we're playing

586
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: our best ball as we enter into the postseason. Although

587
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: I'm not like opposed to them having the number two

588
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: or number three seed because where have they been undefeated

589
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: this year? On the road? Right, They've just been absolutely fantastic.

590
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: So I kind of value that as we're not afraid

591
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: to go to Denver, we're not afraid to go to Jacksonville.

592
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: So if it's sacrifice or valuing health over hey, we're

593
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: playing at Gillette Stadium, maybe that's something that Mike Rabel considers.

594
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: But again, not one of my favorite plays. I'm screaming

595
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 2: for the Patris to win, all right.

596
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: Next up the Arizona Cardinals Los Angeles Rams. We'll see

597
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: what happens with the Rams tonight, but in the meantime,

598
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: minus nine and a half point favors forty seven and

599
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: a half is the over andy under plus four fifty

600
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: six for Arizona on the money line. Look what I

601
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: think we all think the Rams will win, but again,

602
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: I want to see how the Rams come out of

603
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: this game, if they're intact, if they're healthy, before I

604
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: go bet in this one. But it certainly would seem

605
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: as though this would be a one side and a

606
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: fair Andrew, do you agree?

607
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't agree, because I don't think the Rams are

608
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 2: going to be playing for much in this game. They

609
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: can't win the number one seed, they can't win the division.

610
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: And if there's anyone that's on the total end of

611
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 2: the spectrum when it comes to, oh, we're gon be

612
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: playing our best ball as Sean McVay, he's like, I

613
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: don't care. We're not playing anybody of significance in a

614
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: game that is very meaningless. We've seen this with McVay before.

615
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: He doesn't care about seeding. So if they can't be

616
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: the number one seed, they can't win the division where

617
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: a wildcard team don't care for five, six or seven,

618
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: like it doesn't matter to us. The Rams don't even

619
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: have home field advantage anyway.

620
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: So but does that hurt Matthew Stafford's MVP chances Drake

621
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: may goes and balls out they end up getting the

622
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: one seed. I feel like you're almost robbing Matthew Stafford

623
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: of a chance to win MVP if that happens.

624
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if he doesn't playing Week eighteen, that's not

625
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: held against him. It's just you know, he's still gonna

626
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: leave the NFL passing touch.

627
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's held against him. I'm saying it

628
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: might be held for Drake May. If Drake May should

629
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: win and the Denver bron watched, I say the New

630
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: Englan Patriots should win, and Drake May's the one seed

631
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: here and plays great against Miami, and the Denver Bronco

632
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: should somehow lose to the Chargers. They are in a weird,

633
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: wacky way all of a sudden. I think it gets

634
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: very tight there that conversation. I just don't know if

635
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: he's going to take that away from Matthew Stafford. Again,

636
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: I agree, I'm playing Devil's advocate here because I think

637
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: these are the questions we have to ask ourselves in

638
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: Week eighteen. But it is very tricky. It's for slippery

639
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: slope here because if you sit him, it does make

640
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: it a little bit trickier there for him, depending on

641
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: how the cards fall for him to get that one

642
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: last shot at that award.

643
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if he throws for four touchdowns a

644
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 2: three hundred yard against the Falcons. Then I think that

645
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 2: it might just be true good to go true tru Hey,

646
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: like mcvay's already had the conversation with Stafford's like, hey,

647
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: this is your last game week seventeen, so you better

648
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 2: play well because this is your last chance to kind

649
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: of cement your MVP that is, and then lock and

650
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: load for the playoffs. So again McVay is going to

651
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: at least I would imagine he's going to value we

652
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: want to win a super Bowl. Yes, we want message

653
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: Stafford to win the MVP as well, but if we're

654
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 2: gonna have to pick one or the other, we're going

655
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 2: to value him and being the leader of our super

656
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: Bowl team. So I think this is just a lot.

657
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: And then we know the Cardinals. I mean, the Cardinals

658
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: are alive to cover any spread just based on how

659
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: they play offensively and Arizona, what are they're playing for

660
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: Trey McBride to break basically every tight end record that

661
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: has been set in the end, that's what they're going

662
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: to try to do. And Michael Wilson is actually approaching

663
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: one thousand receiving yards, so he's very close to that

664
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: he's within one hundred yards. So with Marvin Harrison, you're

665
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: getting banged up again. I think that it's going to

666
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 2: be Jacob Brissett dropping back fifty times, and I think

667
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: they can win this outright, because I think we're going

668
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: to see Rams backups more often than not in eighteen.

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00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. So that's a huge return then too.

670
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: If it's a four to fifty six money line, Washington

671
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: Commanders Philadelphia Eagles plus eight and a half here for

672
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: Washington on the road in Philly, seven and a half

673
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, forty two and a half for the under,

674
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: forty one and a half for the over, plus three

675
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: thirty five for the Washington Commanders here. So talk to

676
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: me about the Philadelphia Eagles scenarios here as we walk

677
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: in with their seeds could be So.

678
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: It's just about whether the Bears win or lose. The

679
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: Eagles are either kind of stuck in the number two

680
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: or number three seed. Now, if you remember last year,

681
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: they were the number two seed and they went on

682
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: to win the Super Bowl, so clearly maybe that does

683
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: have some value to them. Knowing that they could mostly

684
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: host most of their home games except for potentially going

685
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: to either Seattle or San Francisco as the winner of

686
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: the NSCA West and the holder of the number one seed.

687
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: So I think that the Eagles right now are kind

688
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: of being slept on a little bit in terms of, Hey,

689
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: this is the raiging Super Bowl champion. Yes, they have

690
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: been up and down throughout time this year, but Lane

691
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: Johnson's going to come back at some point and maybe

692
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: really kind of be what needs to bolster this offensive

693
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: line to kind of get them over the hump. Because

694
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: we know the defense right now is playing lights out.

695
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: So I think that we'll get Marcus Mariota in this game.

696
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: But I think the Eagles continue to roll here to

697
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: start to get hot before the postseason. Or I would

698
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: take the Eagles at home this next game.

699
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: I got no interest in at all. Kansas and Chiefs,

700
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders casey minus five getting plus six and

701
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: a half for the Vegas side, thirty five and a

702
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: half of the over, and the under plus two to

703
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: fifty for Las Vegas. Look, I mean, if Las Vegas

704
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: has any brain inside their head, they're losing this football

705
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: game because they want to keep that number one. They

706
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: want to get a franchise quarterback and try to move

707
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: on there. I can't imagine the funny, like ultra positive

708
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: conversations between Fernando Mendoza and Pete Carroll, Like how many

709
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: gosh darns and g whiz is can we possibly get

710
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: between the two of those guys talking?

711
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: Not enough because I don't think he cares under Carel's

712
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: not gonna be there, so.

713
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: He's probably not. But look again, I want nothing to

714
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: do with this game. This game scares the crap out

715
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: of me, and I you know, the Raiders need to lose.

716
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Kensay Chiefs can win. Five

717
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: seems like a lot, so if anything, I'd lean towards

718
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: Vegas with the six and a half, just maybe closer.

719
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: I take the Chiefs here, Andy Reid extra time to

720
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: prepare for I guess it's gonna be Kenny Pickett because

721
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: the Juno Smith got hurt. So and to your point,

722
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: the Raiders are gonna do whatever. I mean, they held

723
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: out Max Crosby of every single heat that guy plays through,

724
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: every single injury known to man, and they're like, now

725
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: you're not gonna play if there's no more clear evidence

726
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: of Yeah, this team is trying to tank it's the

727
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: Las Vegas preaker. So yeah, you can't bet on a

728
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: team to win, let alone cover, in my opinion, when

729
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: they are clearly trying to play with their hands by

730
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: time behind their back. So give me the Chiefs.

731
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: All right, last one here, now, this one is fun.

732
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens Pittsburgh Steelers with the division that comes out

733
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: into this. Oh my god. All my Steeler friends yesterday

734
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: were like, you know, we're gonna lose this game to

735
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: the Browns, right, and now.

736
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: The NFL needed a prime time Sunday night matchup. They

737
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: had the Ravens beat the Packers because they finally gave

738
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: the ball to Derrick Henry, so like, oh, this is fantastic.

739
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: And then they had the Browns come in with the

740
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: win over the Pittsburgh Steelers and Rogers like, you know,

741
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: what a shock. We didn't play our best ball today.

742
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: We always come after adversity. So yeah, what what do

743
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: you want to hear your thoughts on this?

744
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: Scude? You're are?

745
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: We are? We cheered for the Ravens.

746
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: Here?

747
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that the move?

748
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: God? This is gonna play? I don't know, three plus

749
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: three and a half, uh forty for the over forty

750
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: and a half Rother forty one and a half for

751
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: the under plus one seventy for Pittsburgh on the money line.

752
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: I mean, look, without DK Metcalf, the Pittsburgh Steelers offense

753
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: is really troubling because they don't have anybody that can

754
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: make a play downfield. The concept of oh hey, right,

755
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: if we just give the ball to Derrick Henry, things

756
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: are work out for us. Yes, theoretically that should be

757
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: the case. Go figure, my trust level is not there.

758
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: I'll take the Steelers with the plus three and a

759
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: half because the Steelers shouldn't win this game. But I

760
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: somehow feel like this is going to be closer than

761
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: it even should be. I just have a terrible feeling.

762
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: It's in Pittsburgh Primetime. Big moments is you know, maybe

763
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: the maybe the last swan song of a you know,

764
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: a great opportunity here for Aaron Rodgers. Look, man, these

765
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: two teams, it's it's like trying to watch the ineptitude

766
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: of like, you know, you should do this. No, no,

767
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: you should go to the playoffs. No, it's like my

768
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: grandmother and my mother fighting for a check when I

769
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: was a kid at the diner. It was the worst

770
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's like just stop, like, just stop it. Okay. Yeah,

771
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: I'll be on the Steeler side of this game because

772
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: it feels wrong and that probably will be right.

773
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: No, I think that that logic makes a lot of

774
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: sense because that's really when basically, whenever everyone is ready

775
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: to bury the Steelers, they are rise city case. Every

776
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: time she is with here is I feel like we were,

777
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: at least myself ready to bury the Ravens and this

778
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: is over. They're going to fire Harbla. Both of these teams.

779
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: Her head coaches have been called to be fired this year.

780
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin Steelers fans want him out, Ravens fans want

781
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: Harbaugh out. So I actually like Baltimore here again their favorite.

782
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: I think that they can just win this game out right. Look, well,

783
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: the regular Lamar Jackson ever come back, I don't know,

784
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: but if he does, then he's definitely going to be

785
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: the better quarterback in this game. And to your point,

786
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: there's no DK Metcalf, no dart Out Washington either. So

787
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: the Steers are starting to lose piece by piece of

788
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: offensive playmakers and you're putting that on the shoulders of

789
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers to make all these plays for his offense

790
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: when it's like can he do that at his age

791
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: and how well he's played this year without losing weapons.

792
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, I think that with the

793
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: Ravens getting the Lamar back, playing inspired again backs against

794
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: the Wall, everyone kind of count I know, I counted

795
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 2: them out last week and they rose to the occasion.

796
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: My feeting Derek Hunty, I mean's Stee Hember after all, right,

797
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: Steve Hember.

798
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, nobody told them though against the Patriots, which

799
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: I STI don't understand forgot what Derek Henry's had some

800
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: fumble problems too. Let's be honest. The Ravens should win

801
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: this football game. The Ravens are a better team on paper.

802
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: The Ravens are a better team on the field. My

803
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: confidence in the Ravens to show up and win a

804
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: big game is zero, and my confidence level in the

805
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers is point five. Like it is really the

806
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: bottom of the barrel here on Sunday night football for me.

807
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: But again, make sure you follow us during the week

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00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: ground of our best bets for Week eighteen coming out

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00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: later in the week as well. Andrew and I will

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Speaker 1: be back for that and we hope everybody has a

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Speaker 1: wonderful New Year's two, and we'll be here for all

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00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: of it. All the football coming forward here playoff time, baby,

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Speaker 1: That's when the real fun begins, so make sure you

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