WEBVTT - Jordan Morris on Demolition Man 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.960 Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.760 Hey everybody, and welcome to Movie Crush Friday Interview edition 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:38.600 with return guest Jordan Morris. Mellow Greetings, Chuck Mellow greetings. 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.200 What's your boggle? Sir? I kind of want to punch 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:47.560 you now. Then you're the least punchable person I know. Yeah, 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:53.239 apparently reciting verbatim dialogue from Demolition Man makes you infinitely hateable. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.720 So we are here to do a couple of things. 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.600 We are going to talk about Demolition Man. But before 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.520 we get going, uh, and know that you have a 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.920 project coming up soon, which is in this sounds like 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.560 you're some kind of a self centered jerk to say 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.240 that you got in touch with me for that reason. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.240 But uh, you know, he said, hey, let's get a 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.119 movie crush and talk about it and talk about something else. Yeah, listen, 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.240 you know, I'm making the rounds, I'm doing pods. I 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.319 have a graphic novel coming out that I co wrote, 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:27.880 and you know, since since comic CON's and the like 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.440 might not be a thing for another couple of months, 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.120 I'm you know, just trying to get the word out. 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:37.360 And also there's there's a there's A sub reason for 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:41.480 wanting to podcast is that, you know, pandemic and all. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:46.160 It's it's a nice way to see friendly friends that 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:50.400 you like. So you know, yeah, totally mental health reasons 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:54.240 for wanting to to get in touch. I hope I 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.160 can help and not make things worse for you know, 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.800 I mean talk talking talking about Demo Man with one 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:05.240 of my favorite dudes. Instant cheer up, instant cheer up. Um, yes, 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.280 I don't want to hear about it. What's going on? 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.519 Of course? Yes, I uh so. July thirte, a graphic 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:17.560 novel called Bubble is coming out, uh, written by me 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.680 and the great comedy writer Sarah Morgan, drawn by the 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.800 great comic book artist Tony Cliff who does the Delila 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:28.280 Dirk series, and colored by Natalie Reese who does the 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:32.840 Dungeon Critters series. Um yeah, just an awesome, awesome team 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.880 of of funny, cool people worked on this. It is 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.640 a sci fi comedy. Uh. The the Elevator pitch would 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.840 probably be Search Party meets Guardians of the Galaxy, if 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.079 you can imagine such a thing. Uh, it is. It's 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.640 based on the Maximum podcast um that came out a 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:54.560 couple of years ago, which was great. Oh thanks, Yeah, yeah, 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.760 totally awesome and a lot of great a lot of 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.560 great fans of that show. And um, yeah, I just 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.840 really decided to to comic book if I it. I 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.120 think it's a it kind of felt like a natural 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.600 place for the story to go. It's a very comic 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:14.360 bookie story with the aliens and robots and Gore. Uh 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.000 so yeah, it really like really took nicely to the 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.480 comics page, I think. Yeah. Let me. I got a 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:25.839 couple of questions here. The first one is what, as 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:29.120 far as the story of Bubble goes, is this a 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.440 sequel or is it a prequel? Or is it just 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:35.520 another chapter? How? How does it? How? What is it? Yeah? So, um, 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:40.760 you know, the initial talks I had with the publisher, um, 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:45.480 they said they wanted something that was, um, you know, 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.720 kind of a retelling of the events of the podcast, 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.280 but with some changes. There was obviously like stuff you 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.920 know that we wanted to make a little more comic bookie. 0:03:56.000 --> 0:04:00.440 They wanted a different ending. Um. And so I think 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.440 when we were kind of setting it out to you know, 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.800 to adapt in and we were deciding what to cut 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.400 and what to add, we wanted to like keep favorite 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.320 stuff from the podcast, but also give people enough new 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.920 stuff to where you know, you don't just feel like 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.960 it's the exact same story. So hopefully it's like it's 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:20.120 the cool bits of the podcast, but with enough few 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.000 stuff and a new ending and some new scenes and 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.800 locales that you know, you feel like, you know, it 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.560 wasn't just weak handed the podcast to an artist and said, 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:37.560 you know, get drawn, asshole. Yeah. Uh yeah, different ending. Interesting. 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.760 I'm curious about this new ending. Yeah. Yeah, we definitely, like, 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.479 you know, there's so much plot in the podcast, you know, 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.880 because there's eight episodes and there's a lot of like 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:49.320 there's a lot of a lot of plot, and I 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.599 think it it you know, we had a you know, 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.279 a limited amount of space because obviously, you know, this 0:04:55.360 --> 0:05:01.400 thing can't be pages um as not be the snider 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:05.680 cut of graphic novels. Um So, yeah, we we, so 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.400 we kind of decided to kind of like minimize the 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.560 plot a little bit and really drill down on the 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.120 characters and really kind of get into them a little 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.480 bit more, figure out what makes them tick, kind of 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.920 give them, you know, kind of explore their inner lives 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.960 and motivations and stuff like that. So yeah, and hopefully 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:26.279 you know, a funny, cool way. Um. But yeah, that 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.560 was kind of like those are kind of the broad 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.640 goals we went into it with. That sounds cool, It 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.320 sounds like, I mean, if you're a fan of the 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.240 Bubble podcast, which i am, I thought it was really great, 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.160 it sounds like this could be a really good companion 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:46.200 piece almost too, to make it. Um a bigger hole 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:50.560 if you know what I'm talking about, A bigger hole. Yeah. 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.960 You know, if there's one thing I love, it's big holes, 0:05:54.000 --> 0:06:00.120 big gaping cavernous holes. Um. Yeah, So no, I mean 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.120 that's it's a really good way to put it. I think, 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.560 you know, I think something that we wanted was that like, okay, 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:06.440 if you've heard the podcast, we want this to be 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:11.160 something that feels new and additional. But also, you know, 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:16.320 a lot of people don't listen to narrative podcasts, you know, 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.080 like a lot of people you know, just aren't into 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.880 the genre or they you know, they like chats, they 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.000 like other kinds of things. So you know, we wanted 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:26.720 this to be something of like if you just if 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.640 you love comics, if you're a comics person, you know, 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:35.000 and you like monsters and sex jokes and you know, 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:39.960 satire and robots and explosions like this is this is 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:44.080 something you can like pick up and enjoy. So yeah, yeah, 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.440 and ideally it doesn't feel like it's all inside jokes, 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.520 although we have some little easter eggs for podcast fans. 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.920 But but hopefully it doesn't feel like you know, you're 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:58.119 you're just you know, you're paging through somebody's inside jokes, 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:03.039 you know. So is hope that this becomes a first 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.360 of many. Yeah, I think that's you know, that's what 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.720 we would like. I mean, obviously, you know, uh, we'll 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.760 see how this one sells and see how preorders go. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.000 But yeah, I mean I think I think, you know, 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.400 I think the team really really had a good time 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:21.000 with this, and um yeah, I think I think, given 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:25.800 the opportunity, we would love to just keep telling Bubble 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:31.600 stories until uh we die. So so yeah, no, I 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.920 think it's I think, you know, schedules permitting, everybody would 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.880 love to do more. And um, yes, so hopefully people 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.360 people are into this one. Now, what is it like 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:46.480 writing for a graphic novel? I mean, you've written everything 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:51.240 from uh to straight up sort of satire to uh, 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.160 you're a writer on at midnight for a while, so 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.800 very kind of quick punchy jokes. Um, what about writing 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:58.800 for a graphic novel? Was that an entirely new thing 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:00.760 or was it just sort of a different skin on 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.480 what you do? Boyd? Yeah, it was really interesting. I 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.080 have been a like comics reader since you know, I 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.360 was a little little kid, since I was you know, 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.400 being bad in the grocery store and my mom had 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.760 to get me something to quiet me down. Like, I've 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.480 definitely just like read comics, you know, since I could 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:23.480 read things. Um, so yeah, and they always like seemed 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.960 like magic to me though, you know, they always seemed 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:30.240 like something someone else did, you know, Like, well, I 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.560 could never do this. This is a goddamn magic trick. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.520 How these things get right? So yeah, I definitely, like 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.080 you know, held them in very high regard. Um. And 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.120 you know, Tony Tony Cliff the artist is you know, 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:47.080 just a goddamn pro and you know has done such 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.920 beautiful work over his career and just kind of knows 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.800 the format and has really great storytelling ideas. So he 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.960 was a great guy. Um, you know, and I know Sarah, 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.640 my co writer, you know, it's similarly is is a 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.520 TV writer who loved comics who always kind of wanted 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.520 to do it. Um. So you know, we we kind 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:10.880 of came at it with this TV writing mentality, um 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.040 and very specifically late night comedy. She does a lot 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.680 of late night comedy in the UK, and so we 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:23.040 we are used to jobs where you get paid like 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:25.960 by the page. It's like you just need to fill 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.719 a fucking page with jokes, you know, and that's kind 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.440 of how your success is measured. So we definitely in 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:39.240 our early drafts overwrote we like you know, would have ten, 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.679 you know, ten jokes per premise, ten jokes per page, 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:47.160 and like when that happens, you can't see the pictures 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:51.440 because the fucking page is filled up with the words. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.000 So there was a process of being like selective about 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.079 what we put in, kind of like being a little 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:02.520 choosier with jokes, some kind of shortening ideas because you know, 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.360 the the the art and this thing is beautiful. Uh, 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.880 you know, Tony and Natalie are both like two of 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:12.679 the fucking best in the world, you know, and so 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.720 you know, we wanted to strike a balance between like 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.959 letting people kind of enjoy you know, the scenery and 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.160 you know, it is a cool world. It's it's kind 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.719 of a world where, you know, it's a it's a 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.760 kind of a near future where people live in these 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.520 bubble cities, but outside there's this crazy alien landscape filled 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:36.200 with monsters. So, you know, both both kind of those 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:40.600 primary settings. You know, Tony and Natalie made them look 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.360 so cool, so um. So yes, there was kind of 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.400 a process of like, can we be choosier about this? 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:51.480 Can we be a little more like you know, snipery 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.280 with the dialogue and the ideas so so as to 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.000 you know, let people enjoy the visuals and the words too. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.679 That's awesome. Imagine that's an interesting exercise for a writer 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.760 to put on a different hat and a different medium, 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:11.359 and especially if you're having to to whittle it down. Um, 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.720 I would imagine you end up with like the gold 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.760 you know, at the bottom of the pot. Yeah, that's 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.640 that's that's the hope, is that the gold pot is 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.800 what you're getting of. You know, I think I think 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:28.240 you know, definitely, Sarah and I kind of joky word 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:32.120 nous is still there, you know. I think I think 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.880 you know that that sort of thing is still kind 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.080 of present in it. But but you know, in a 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.080 way that's still like respectful to the art. So yeah, 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.040 it was. It was really interesting, and I think were 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.640 I to do more comics down the line, I definitely 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:53.120 would like kind of have that mentality going in, like Okay, 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.040 how can I you know, how can I make this dialogue, 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.120 you know, say what I wanted to say, but also 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.320 kind of give the artist room to kind of like 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.439 show off and stretch their legs too. That's cool, man. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.600 I really I can't wait to see this world come 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.000 to life, because that's the I mean, one of the 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:11.960 great things about Bubble is it is such a cool 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:16.120 world and it's fun. You know, if people haven't listened 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.680 to um fiction narrative podcasts like give It a World, 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.360 because it's a rich it kind of reminds me when 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.040 I was a kid and you would listen to stories, 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.240 records and stuff, and it's just such a rich area 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.400 for the mind to blossom and picture your own stuff, 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:31.719 and you can, you know, you can do so much 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.720 in a podcast to try and describe stuff without bogging 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.800 it down, but a lot of that you just have 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.160 to leave up to the listener to imagine. And um, 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.280 I know the world of Bubble in my brain and 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.280 now I'm gonna be interested to see what it looks 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:49.880 like and like how wrong I was in my own brain. Basically, yeah, no, 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.560 it's interesting. I I That's something I think we're all 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.440 kind of curious about. Is the like reaction from people 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.080 who have listened, Yeah, does this looked like what was 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.520 in your brain? And I think hopefully, you know, people 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.600 are cool with it being different or the same. Um, 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.200 but yeah, I'm I'm that's one of the things I'm 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:13.960 super fascinated to see. It's like, people who listened, how 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.880 close is this to what was in your brain? Honestly, 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.120 it's pretty close to what was in my brain. I 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:25.959 was really surprised how how Tony drew stuff really similar 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:30.120 to what I was what I was thinking. Um yeah, 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:31.960 that was actually a little bit part of our process 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.920 was every time there was, you know, a monster or something, 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.920 you know, He's like, can you send me some comps? 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:42.079 So I would just do you know, Google image searches 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:46.320 for certain dark souls monsters that I liked and send 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.720 them over and you know, like buildings, like what does 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.680 this building kind of look like? So I would send 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.160 him like apartments and stuff. So yeah, I mean it's 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:58.199 obviously that contributed to why stuff looks similar to my brain. 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.800 But also just some of the voices he made him 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.960 like that is right on, and um, oh yeah, this 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.840 is kind of interesting as far as the character designs go. Um, 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:14.959 he didn't. He didn't draw the actors from the podcast probatim, 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.120 but with every character he started with one of their 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:22.600 physical attributes. So like, um, you know, we have a 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:27.440 character played by Eliza Skinner, the great comedian and writer 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.080 Eliza Skinners. So she, uh, you know, she has a 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.760 she has a really cool beauty mark and so we 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.000 kind of he started with that character's beauty mark and 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.480 kind of expounded off it. And yeah, so you'll see 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.240 that with all the characters that there's something you know, 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.480 if you know the actor, then you can see those 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.520 little physical attributes that were the starting point. But they 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.360 all do look, you know, kind of like their own characters. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.440 So that's awesome. Man, give him a little a little nod, yeah, 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.800 for sure. But there are some yeah, and there are 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:02.400 some little uh, there are some little drawn Maximum cameos 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.640 in there too that you'll see if you're you're a Maxi, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.480 if you're a fan of the Maximum podcast averse, uh, 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:12.080 some some there you'll see some familiar faces. Oh that's great, dude, 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.360 I can't wait. Um, when does it come out and 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.160 when can people pre order? And where? Yeah? So uh 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:21.400 so July thirteenth it comes out. But you can preorder 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:25.280 it now basically wherever you you get your books, so Amazon, 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.880 Barnes and Noble, but also like, hey, man, call that 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.600 local indie bookstore that might be having a tough time 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.320 right now, or your local comic shop and they'll pre 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.240 order it up for you. And I think I can 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:40.600 say this is that we have some cool stuff planned 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:45.080 for people who preorder, so like, if you're curious, um, yeah, 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:46.760 please please get out there and pre order. And it 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.040 really help the book. It helps it helps those uh 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.720 those little bookstores. And yeah, hopefully you're gonna get some 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:57.040 cool uh stuff in return that I'll announce on social 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.360 media when the time comes. So yeah, I'm looking now 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:06.160 at the US dot McMillan dot com website. Yes, and 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.120 it looks great. It actually has some panels here based 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.440 on the smash It podcast, and I'm going to preorder 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.520 it right now, hardcover, hardcover. Chuck, you know, you know, yes, 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.880 that's too much. Get the no, you know it gets 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:22.360 the hard it's beautiful. Always always get hardcovers. I just 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.560 I'm still a book guy. I'm one of those weirdos 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:28.120 who hardcover books and putting them on my bookshelf. And 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.520 this looks fantastic. Cannot wait, my friend. Oh thanks dude, 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.160 thank you so much. It's really really nice to you. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.760 And yeah, definitely, uh yeah, definitely. I I you know, 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:41.200 it's funny. I I my first publishing thing, and I 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:45.920 really got a lesson in the importance of preordering books. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.680 So I needed to. Recently, Josh and I had our 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.200 book out, and they're like, you hear that word a 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.840 lot when you're in the in the meetings. Uh, it's 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.000 all about that pre order. Yeah. Yeah, I was not. 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.440 You know, it's not something I'm embarrassed to say. It's 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.960 not something that I did personally before this. But now 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.159 I'm like, oh, yeah, now I am a book preorder. 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:10.040 I realized that anywhere. Yeah, yeah, that's great. Pre orders are. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:11.879 And we told this, we were preaching to this stuff. 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.960 You should know listeners for a while about the importance 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.439 of preorders, and I think it's just I don't know 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:18.879 what it is. It builds. I think they want a 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.840 big first day number, which the pre orders sort of 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:26.040 aggregate to and uh, it's just a very significant thing. 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.960 I remember Hodgman talking to me about pre orders being 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.159 a big deal, and that's why people get sick of 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:36.959 hearing people say pre order, because yeah, yeah, yeah, pre 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:48.200 order bubble everybody. It looks fantastic. Yeah yeah, thanks, I 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:53.119 love it. So, Uh, Demolition Man is the movie you picked, 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:55.320 which I thought was kind of funny. You sent me 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.359 a few options, and uh, I picked Demolition Man for 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:03.320 two reasons. One because you picked Point Break the first time, 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.640 and this is another sort of nineties kind of corny 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.640 action movie that's a lot of fun. And I picked 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.040 it because I had never seen it. And then I 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:16.199 remembered I saw the first like fifteen minutes of it, 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.160 and uh, this came out when I was in college, 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.199 so I could explain. I'm older than you, So this 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:26.160 came out probably when you were primetime young kid. Yes, yeah, 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:29.080 maybe in hindsight, maybe a little young to have been 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.760 seeing this in the theater, but yes, definitely like the 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:37.560 age to where you know, uh, stallone in Snipe's High 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:42.640 Kicking Things was my uh primary interests. Right, So I 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:47.160 was um, like twenty two in college and we went 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:48.840 to the theater to see this, me and a couple 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:53.600 of friends, and uh, after about I would have stayed. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.000 I'm not one to leave a movie ever, but my 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.680 friend Brett is he has very little patience. Was something 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:03.240 he'd after about fifteen minutes, I can't take it, you know, 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.840 I'm working out of here, and he got up and 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.480 we followed him and we went in and saw True 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.800 Romance for the third time, which was had been going 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.080 for about ten minutes as well. So that was my 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.840 Demolition Man. And I think until this morning, like I 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.800 literally just finished watching it, I was confusing it. I 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.960 thought it was a comic book spin off and I 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:28.200 think I was thinking of Judge Dread Oh right, yeah, 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:32.920 similar yea, also stallone and then also maybe some similar 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:37.919 like costume design, especially on the like yeah, yeah, so 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.600 I had it totally wrong. Um, and this was definitely 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.000 you know, as of two and a half hours ago, 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.960 I had never really seen Demolition Man, and now I have, 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:50.560 and I gotta say it was corny and dumb and 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:54.080 great and funny and and I think a movie that 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.040 like and I did read, you know, thankfully, Din of 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.719 Geek and some other Rotten Tomatoes had a pretty good 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.280 essay of like, you know, thirty years on or twenty 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:08.760 years on has been thirty years yeah, let's see about yeah, 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.359 thirty years on almost and these nice retrospectives when you 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:13.960 can go back and look at a movie like this. 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.520 And I think the consensus for this guy from Rotten 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:22.040 Tomatoes was this was a great comedy satire in the 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:26.000 making that Stallone, like Stallone was acting in his own 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:29.480 movie according to this guy, and it felt like he 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.240 phoned in the comic moments, whereas a Kurt Russell or 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.440 Bruce Willis would have really taken this over the top 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:40.920 as some sort of PC culture meta commentary on on 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.680 life and uh and where we were headed, whereas Stallone 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.480 was a little too self serious about it. And I 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:49.960 sort of agree, But I also thought Stallone was kind 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:55.000 of fun. Yeah, I think he gets the comedy of it. Yeah, 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.880 I mean obviously, like you know, Kurt Russell is so 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:03.360 good at this town, you know, uh yeah, so kind 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:07.600 of unfair to Yeah, so maybe hard not to say 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:10.360 Russell would have been better, But I think stall Loan 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.639 does a pretty good job. He kind of like, you know, 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:17.600 it's such a wild mishmash of tones. You know, like, 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:19.919 I think part of it is like the movie is, 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:26.480 you know, the movie is kind of schizophrenic. Um. But yeah, 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.680 I think he does a good job with this. Um. 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.480 You know, obviously dreamcasting, you might find a better actor 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:34.880 for it. But yeah, I think Stallone works. And definitely 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.199 like there are there's an element of this movie that 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:43.520 is kind of like parodying the Stallone uvra. So I 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:47.399 think he him being there like adds to some of 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.879 the that satire. You know, I have to say that 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.879 the listeners. I'm struggling right now because your cat just 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.080 jumped up. Yeah. All I want to do now is 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:59.800 pet your cat. Yeah, it's bug. She definitely kind of 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:03.960 know when the zoom zoom is on. Oh man, it's 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:05.560 the worst. I can't get in there and pet that 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:07.480 cat right now. Yeah, you know, she's got a fuzzy 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.600 little belly. I'm a magnet to all animals, so like it. 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.560 I have a palpable reaction going on. Yeah, I wonder, 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:16.719 I wonder if she's going to just sit here gargoyle 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.480 like for the she's so pretty, what a pretty cat? Yeah, 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.080 I know, she's stunning. I moved recently, and she did 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:26.560 a great job with the move. I'm yeah, I'm really 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:30.200 really proud of her and how she's handling change. Yeah, 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.920 did she spend the first like three days sniffing every 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:37.040 square inch? Yeah, definitely, almost kind of like yeah, they're 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.639 so yeah, there's some weird little animals. But I think 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:42.080 she's going to try and jump onto the TV stand? 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:47.880 Now will she make it? Where's the new by the way? Pasadena? 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:50.760 So yeah, it's kind of like nice. Yeah, so it's been. 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:54.440 It's been lovely ive Pasadena. Yeah, it's really cool. It's 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:59.480 definitely like kind of a cookie, you know, charmingly square 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:03.439 suburb outside of l A. So yeah, I'm having a 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.920 good time. I had friends that lived there. I quite 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:08.000 enjoyed Pasadyen and we lived at the end Emily and 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.639 I lived in Eagle Rock. So Pasadena was like a 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:14.240 quick great great restaurants, which you know, of course you'll 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:20.560 get to someday, yes, yeah, take out. So yeah. Uh 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:22.040 So I thought it was kind of funny when this 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:24.440 movie first opened, and it was released in ninety three, 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:29.200 and the initial waste Land of Los Angeles was yeah, 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:32.760 so the the movie starts but three years later. Yeah, 0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:35.679 it's so funny that they chose something so close to 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:38.720