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Speaker 1: him saying that that they're not going to get into

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Speaker 1: the arms race of n I l um or even

427
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: like I read a quote from Washington A D. Gen

428
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Speaker 1: co and the other day just expressing frustration at like

429
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: Washington State ethics laws keep them from being able to

430
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: do some of the stuff that you can do if

431
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: you wanted to in Utah um And so you know,

432
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: I I say, at this point, because you don't know

433
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: where the chips are gonna fall with n I L,

434
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 1: just lie, just lie. It doesn't even have to be

435
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: a lie. You could just say, like I have the

436
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: ultimate faith in our institution that once UH politicians in

437
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: the n C double A define the st way to

438
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: move forward with n I L that Arizona State University,

439
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: already a beautiful place to live and play football, is

440
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a great place to come and and build

441
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: your brand and your image. A s U is ready

442
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: for n I L yea. And is that true? Certainly not,

443
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: based on the circumstances that we've seen of people being

444
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: able to leave in cash in else where, one of

445
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: which being Ricky Pierson, who went to University of Florida,

446
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: but who gives a ship lie like you don't have

447
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: good enough sense to just not tell the truth. That's

448
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: the reason one of the reasons I'm so frustrated with

449
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: Ray Anderson is because it costs you nothing to just say, yeah,

450
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna be good at that. He does it about

451
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: the football program, and it's probably not true. He realies

452
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: about the football program every time he's asked herm Edwards

453
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: gonna kill it here. We're in great position in to

454
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: be even better than like probably not Ray, But like

455
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: you said it, so why not say that about n

456
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: I L is? Well, you are right, bro? You who

457
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: are one? Right? I don't understand where the arrogance to

458
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, I don't even need to comment

459
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: on this. Yeah we're fine. No, you're not fine. Everything

460
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: is not okay, everything is not Since we brought up

461
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: Bray Anderson, should we just get into this other weirdness? Yeah, alright.

462
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: So of everything that went on with with Ray Anderson,

463
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: one of the things that kind of got lost in

464
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: the shuffle is, uh, he is actually being sued by

465
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: and the university is being sued by one of the

466
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: former employees of the the athletic department. UM so uh.

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00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: The Associate athletic Director David Cohen, who has let go

468
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: by Arizona State UM a few years back, had filed

469
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: suit and basically his claim was that, like, hey, I

470
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: actually tried to warn Arizona State that bart Ware, one

471
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: of our primary donors, was sexually harassing people, including Bobby

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00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: Hurley's wife, and the school didn't want to hear about it.

473
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: Ray Anderson didn't want to hear about it, and I

474
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: felt like I got demoted and a bonus withheld because

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00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: of it, and then ultimately let go. So the hope

476
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: from Arizona State this entire time is that David Cohen's

477
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: lawsuit got thrown out as being frivolous or or having

478
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: no meritum. But Pete Famill reported last week um incremental

479
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: development this week and the ongoing litigation filed by a

480
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: former Arizona stout a State associate A D. David Cohen,

481
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: who is alleging wrongful termination by Arizona State and Athletic

482
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: Director Ray Anderson for retaliation after repeatedly pointing out a

483
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: Boosters alleged harassment. A ruling this week paved the way

484
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: for Title seven and Title nine claims by Cohen to

485
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 1: move forward. This potentially clears the way for discovery phase,

486
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: which could include depositions of prominent A s U Athletic

487
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: department members. Cohen's lawyer told ESPN were pleased the court

488
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: agreed with our legal analysis, and we expect that the

489
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: Arizona Board of Regents ak Arizona State will be held

490
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: responsible for the conduct of its donors and the protection

491
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: of the A s U community, including its students UM

492
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: and this all hearkens back to UM. This is the

493
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: crux of their lawsuit that David Cohen told ray Anderson

494
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: that he was concerned about Bartware as a tendance at

495
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: an event where alcohol would be served UH, and that

496
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: in his opinion, Bartware posed as a danger to people

497
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: around him when he consumed alcohol UH and that his

498
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: presence at the event put members of the A s

499
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: U community in harm's way. Ray Anderson told Dave Cohen

500
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: to stay away from the event if he felt uncomfortable.

501
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: Now these are all allegations UM. David Cohen said that

502
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: he discussed with UH Associate Athletic Director Gene Boyd Um

503
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: that he was displeased that ray Anderson had not taken

504
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: further action Gene Boyd told ray Anderson he was required

505
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: to respond and report UH Dave Cohen's complain about Bartware,

506
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: and ray Anderson was again reminded of the plaintiffs complaint

507
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: in June of twenty nineteen, UM when when he was

508
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: informed that it was probably inappropriate to have taken a

509
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: golfing trip with Bartware and other A s U employees

510
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: in May after he had been informed UM, ray Anderson

511
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: said he, uh, this is again all allegations, said that

512
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: he would take care of Bartware's conduct UM and that

513
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: uh that Dave Cohen said that he believed that his

514
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: bonus structure in the alteration of his responsibilities were a

515
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: retaliation for reporting Bartware's conduct. UM. They are also um uh.

516
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: Ray Anderson is saying that Dave Cohen didn't report Bartware's

517
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: conduct until three months after the basketball season UM, but

518
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: the Dave Cohen says he did it in the days

519
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: after the Pac twelve tournament. UM. Ray Anderson asked Dave

520
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: Cohen why he hadn't taken any action about bart Ware himself. UH.

521
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: Dave Cohen told ray Anderson that he did by reporting

522
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: it to ray Anderson. UM. Ray Anderson is alleged to

523
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: have said that neither Dave Cohen nor anybody else was

524
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: going to tell him how or when to talk to

525
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: a fucking donor. And then obviously it came out that,

526
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: um that Bobby Hurley accused bart Ware of sexually harassing

527
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: his wife. Yes, and Ray Anderson's response to that was

528
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: to tell Bobby Hurley that they were only going to

529
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 1: speak through lawyers from that point on. Dude, this has

530
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: been a mess. I mean at this point in time, like,

531
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: what like how much more how much more like dysfunctional?

532
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: Can it? Can it be? Like? At what point in

533
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: time does stopped making sense to have Ray Anderson as

534
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: your athletic director? Oh? Uh yeah, Um, that that's a

535
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: great question, um for for me, Uh, that would have

536
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: been about at the point when you're basketball coach and

537
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: your a d are feuding over um, you know. I

538
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: think Bobby Hurley was upset that, like after it was

539
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: reported that this happened, that Ray Anderson went on a

540
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: flight with bart Ware or something like that. Um, I

541
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: think that would have been a good time to step

542
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: in and address it. Um. Those two have obviously found

543
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: some way to make whatever relationship they have work, because

544
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: Bobby Hurley is still employed, as is Ray Anderson. But

545
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: that would have been that that would have been my

546
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: breaking point. That would have been a no tolerance thing

547
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: of like, wait a minute, you knew this allegation was

548
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: out there, and then you're spending personal time with him.

549
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: You can't you can't do that. Um. And then obviously

550
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: everything with they just lost their softball coach to Texas

551
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: A and M. They just lost their women's lacrosse coach

552
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: to Johns Hopkins. They just lost their lead basketball assistant.

553
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: They um, the women's basketball coach who is the most

554
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: beloved coach at the school just retired. Um. You have

555
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: the entire football program embroiled in scandal, with half of

556
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: the staff being fired for cause or leaving before they

557
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: can be fired for cause. Um. And then you have

558
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: a former baseball coach who many people believe that Ray

559
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: Anderson stood by for too long before firing him, to

560
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: hire Willie bloom Quist Tracy Smith, who is on Twitter

561
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: every day bashing Ray Anderson. Um. And so it just

562
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: the level of dysfunction is truly truly incredible. And uh,

563
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: and you know Michael Crowe is doing what he did

564
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: with Larry Scott and and standing by him, which is created,

565
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: unfortunately amongst the the fan base of which I am one,

566
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: an incredible amount of just ampathy towards the upcoming season,

567
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: because there's a hopelessness that comes with you know, the

568
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: guy that the guy that poured gasoline on the bridge

569
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: and and lit it on fire is telling us that

570
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: it's safe to walk across. Yep, yep. The it's he

571
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: he is. And mind you, I feel conflicted, right because

572
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: on one hand, you know, I like when we have,

573
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: like I think it's a good idea to have, you know,

574
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: more diversity and coaching and in athletic departments a d S,

575
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. But at some point in time,

576
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: even as a black man, I'm like, yo, bro, like

577
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: you're not doing a good job. Like it's time to

578
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: be replaced by by by the best man for the job,

579
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: because you're not the best man for the job. But

580
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: but but that doesn't mean that he wasn't what people

581
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: thought was the best man for the job at the time.

582
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: Do you understand what I'm saying. I'm saying that for

583
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: this time two right now, he's not the best man

584
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: for the job. My, my, my, My issue with Ray

585
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: Anderson has always been that. Um that I felt very

586
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: strongly that Ray Anderson as your athletic director meant more

587
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: opportunities for people who would not have been considered otherwise,

588
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: which was something that I was really excited to see

589
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: deployed at Arizona State and with his most senior hire.

590
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: It feels like he did the thing that he spent

591
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: his entire life fighting back against, which was engaged in

592
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: an incredible amount of shortsighted uh nepotism. Um. Yes, but

593
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: then you know there's that there's that weird thing in

594
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: me that like that also feels like the fight for

595
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: equality and includes the fight to be equally corrupt. Right,

596
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: So congratulations to Ray Anderson who reached the mountaintop and

597
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: has reserved the right to do the exact thing that

598
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: that that he swam against the stream against his whole life.

599
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: For sure, Um you have. Now we will see how

600
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: long he's able to keep that job. But um, Lincoln

601
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: Riley over at USC, he is making some comments, but

602
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: also the sentiment surrounding USC seems to feel like from

603
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: their fans on their message boards, all of that that

604
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: everything is fine, everything has headed perfectly. But that's not

605
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing on these streets in terms of their

606
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: their n I l that it's not paying out for

607
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: some of the players, like they thought that it was,

608
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: like some of the players who transferred there. Not Caleb Williams,

609
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: his his ship is secure secure. Um. But now with

610
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: USC f letis chief of staff Brandon Sonza, who clearly

611
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: played a big role in landing Lincoln Riley, He's leaving

612
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: to go join the Detroit Lions. So, like, how secure

613
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: do you think that USC is in there pursuit of

614
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote being back. I think I think

615
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: it's I think it's sensitive. I think you probably had

616
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people pledge a lot, right, and I

617
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: think that there's probably a a sensitivity there to like,

618
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: but I want to make sure that that I'm getting

619
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: something in return. You know, if this comes out and

620
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: it's obviously a bust from day one, am I going

621
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: to continue to fund the things that I said that

622
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: I would? Um. You know, there's a rumor out there

623
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: that like they're they're they're averaging you know, well into

624
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: six figures per recruit for the class. I don't even

625
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: know where these numbers are. We are necessarily from what

626
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm hearing is that they're promising stuff like that, but

627
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: the actual delivery on some of the two kids that

628
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: they promised hasn't happened to the level that they said

629
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: because they didn't actually sign deals. And now these kids

630
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: are like, I need this in paper, I needed him

631
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: writing and uh yeah, so yeah, I I did find Um.

632
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley had an interview with Dennis dodd On on

633
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: CBS Sports dot Com, and I was really curious to

634
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: see what, um, what you thought of this quote? Um?

635
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: He said, that's been the difference between this league and

636
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: a lot of other leagues. What would the Big twelve

637
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: be in recent history of Oklahoma was down? What would

638
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: the a c C have been? If Clemson was down?

639
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 1: What would the Big ten be? Right now? I thought

640
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: O State was down for the last fifteen years. Insert

641
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: any league in there, take Alabama out of the SEC

642
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years. What does it look like. So

643
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: the point that Lincoln Riley is making is that the

644
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: only difference between the PAC twelve and everybody else. And

645
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: I already want to insert myself into this and say, like, well,

646
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: the other leagues didn't have to deal with Larry Scott,

647
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: but like the biggest difference between the Pac twelve and

648
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: everybody else is that the brand name marquee program over

649
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years has been underperforming. Yeah, that is

650
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: a fact. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

651
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,080
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654
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: does does just hiring Lincoln Riley fix the problem? Because

655
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: it seems like USC fans think that everything is fixed now,

656
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's not it. It is not It

657
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: like like, this is not the actual answer to your

658
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 1: problems yet. Because as big as as much as they

659
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: have capitalized on Caleb Williams transfer and also in that class,

660
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: they were able to get um uh the kid transfer

661
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: from uh they got oh lord, what's his name? Oh

662
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: they do. Their list of transfers is bigger than their

663
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: list of of of everything else. So they got Jordan Addison, which,

664
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: by the way, you had something to say to Dennis

665
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: DoD about that too. He said that um uh, Dennis

666
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: Dodd was like to take away the sting of of

667
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: the the tampering chatter. When Jordan Adison visited Texas and

668
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: Alabama before landing at USC and Lincoln Riley said, yeah,

669
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: and the fact that nobody tampered also does yeah, which

670
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: like rays Yeah exactly, dude, he he sounds like, you know,

671
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: like Jimbo Fisher. Right now. They got Jacoby Covington, Eric Gentry. Um. Now,

672
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: I like both of those a lot. I think those

673
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: are huge editions. The problem with this whole thing is

674
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: is that, yes, they got to defensive linemen. They got

675
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: one from Kansas State, oh, sorry, three, they got a

676
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: kid from from TCU and an offensive tackle from Virginia.

677
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: But aside from that, oh and then Solomon Bird from

678
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: Wyoming who went to USC. Now he I think he's

679
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: an edge if I remember from watching him. Yeah, So

680
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm more I'm more concerned about the the A gap

681
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: this team, I am exactly. And then their high school

682
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: recruiting class they got nothing, absolutely nothing that that doesn't

683
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: amount to a seven on sevent team. And in two

684
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: thousand and twenty three in their recruiting class safety, running back,

685
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: running back, safety, athlete, wide receiver, and quarterback. Um, Listen,

686
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: you can try to play seven on seven all you

687
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: want to, Um, but if you don't, it doesn't matter.

688
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: Like if you can't block up front, it doesn't matter.

689
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: And if you look at Caleb Williams with the jury

690
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: is still out on on him. Anybody that thinks that

691
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: that this is a sure fire the thing is sadly mistaken. Yes, yes,

692
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: it's just there. There's so much falling on UM on

693
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: that defensive line, and I know that they've got talent.

694
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: Corey Foreman is still there, right, Yeah, I know they've

695
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: got talent UM. I think they went into with Jacob

696
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: Liechtenstein fighting to be part of the UM part of

697
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: the rotation and he ended up being third on the

698
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: team and tackles for loss and he only had six.

699
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: Now he's at Miami. UM, Drake Jackson's gone there. As

700
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: far as like guys who got into the backfield on

701
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: this team, they're almost returning nobody. Yep, can I magoua why?

702
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: I think it's with the Broncos now, so, I I

703
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: don't know it's gonna be It's gonna be an adventure

704
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: on that defensive line if they're getting pushed off the ball.

705
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's really comes down to they

706
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: have uh toly toly put low To out of Lawndale

707
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: High School, who had tend U has tend tackles for

708
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 1: a loss in his career. That's who. The whole point

709
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: is that this roster is not a foregone conclusion that

710
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: everything is okay. That's the point. And but but but

711
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: but they might get away with it. They might get

712
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: away with it because who in the PAC twelve has

713
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: been stocking up to be able to to have a

714
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: power runner. There are two teams that that are more

715
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 1: powerful than than U s C. That is Oregon and Utah.

716
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: But and they don't play I'm Utah for sure, um,

717
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: which is why I think Utah still has the advantage.

718
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: I think anybody picking USC over Utah in the pactual

719
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: South is insane. They're going to have trouble with U

720
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: C l A too of the running game party. But

721
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: but does Oregon have the h dynamic claimmaking ability in

722
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: the in the backfield if those two end up meeting,

723
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, I know they have the push. But then

724
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: again it might not matter because in the in the

725
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: running back yes, Oregon's running back room is better this

726
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: year than it was last year. And and Oregon's best

727
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: running back last year is on USC. I have a

728
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: hard disagree with are you back to me? To Travis

729
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: Die Hayter. No no, no, no no, no no Bro Bro Bro,

730
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: the the kid from from the kid from Western Michigan,

731
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, from Western Kentucky is an absolute savage, is

732
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 1: an absolute savage. And then the freshman kid from last

733
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: year is going to be super super good too. I'm

734
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: gonna be mad at Travis Dye if if it ends

735
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: up being a because who's the who's the player that

736
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: USC took from Colorado last year and they didn't even

737
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: see the field he was a receiver. Yeah, the problem

738
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: is I don't even remember now, Like, if that ends

739
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: up having a Travis Diet at USC, somebody's gonna get

740
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: lost in the shuffle. There's only one football and it's

741
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: gonna be even more stressed and stretched if if the

742
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: defense can't get off the field. Yeah, I'm just I'm

743
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: with you that, like anybody who is saying that USC

744
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: is back, like maybe next year they'll deserve that benefit

745
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: of the doubt. But right now, Utah is the bully, yes,

746
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 1: for for for sure, for sure they are the big

747
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: bully on the block with the big stick. So um

748
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: so yeah, I think that they need it that they

749
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: that USC, that this feels fragile like as as like

750
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: as all the great things are going, everything's going in

751
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: the right direction. It is also built on a in

752
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: an absolute house of cards house of cards, so everything

753
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: is gonna have to be perfectly otherwise they're gonna be

754
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: Texas every year we're back, and their fans are gonna run. Uh.

755
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna be very upset with Lincoln Riley. If they're

756
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: not in the Pack twelve championship. They'll be okay this

757
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: year because they'll be like, Okay, it's fine, he's reloading.

758
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: But if they're not in it into this year and

759
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: then next year, the fans are gonna turn agreed all right. Um. Oh, Now,

760
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: for people who don't know, there is a story with

761
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: this man who played college football in the Pac twelve,

762
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: DeVonta Neil. Ralph has the details on it and he'll

763
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: tell you what's going on. So Davonte Neil um is

764
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: a he's a little bit before my time as an

765
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: Arizona high school football reporter, I was aware of him.

766
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: He was. He's great. Many people consider him to be

767
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: uh one of the top five players to ever come

768
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: out of the state of Arizona. Uh. You may know

769
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: him George from his college commitment ceremony making national news

770
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: because when he was deciding between staying at University of

771
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: Arizona following his high school coach to Tucson UM in Charlie, Regal,

772
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: or taking an offer to go to play at Notre Dame.

773
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: They set up a press conference at his elementary school

774
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: so that he could commit at his old elementary school.

775
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: So they filled the gymnasium with kids from that elementary

776
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: school to be present so they could all show up

777
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: on TV at his commitment ceremony, and he did not

778
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: show up. What do you not do you not remember this? No? Yeah,

779
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: So they filled the elementary school auditorium with kids and

780
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: they waited for someone who never came. And the story

781
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: at the time was he wanted to go to Arizona

782
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: and his dad wanted him to go to Notre Dame

783
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: and he basically on the way of the ceremon and

784
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: he you know, found his way out of a moving

785
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: car to avoid being in that situation. But he ended

786
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: up making the commitment going to Notre Dame. He played

787
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: a year there. He played uh in a I think

788
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: a BCS playoff game as a punt returner, and then

789
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: UM had a kid moved back and finished out his

790
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: college career in Tucson. UM for having that four or

791
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: five star status, it didn't didn't pan out, didn't end

792
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: up playing in the NFL UH, and ended up an

793
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: assistant back at the high school that he played for,

794
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: and then in recent years was an assistant coach at

795
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: Dobson High School where my wife went to school, and

796
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: then Higley High School UH, which is you know, produces

797
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: a ton of college level athletes. And then this year,

798
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: as Charlie Regel, who used to be the best special

799
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: teams coordinator at University of California, who was an expert

800
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 1: recruiter of Arizona prospects, got the job at Idaho State

801
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 1: head coaching job at Idaho State, he brought Davonte Neil

802
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: to be the defensive backs coach, and so Davontagnell was

803
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 1: arrested in Idaho by Idaho police at the request of

804
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: I believe that Maricopa County Sheriff's Office for a murder

805
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: that took place in Fallen, so four and a half

806
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: years ago, which would have been and that was the

807
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: crazy part about it to me, is that I didn't

808
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: know when the murder took took place it took place,

809
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: uh And what what's crazy is I believe he was

810
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: an assistant coach at Chaparral High School at the time,

811
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: UM and the murder occurred after Chaparral was knocked out

812
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: of the playoffs later that night. Season. Now, I don't

813
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: know if he was still an assistant on the team

814
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: at the time. I don't know if he was even

815
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: at the game, UM, but I do know that it

816
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: happened that night is when the alleged um the crime

817
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: he is alleged to have committed, took place. The family

818
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: so the the person who was killed, his name is

819
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 1: Brian Burns. He was a UM uh mesa community college

820
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: student and somebody who had a T shirt business, and

821
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: he was from Michigan. He had moved to Arizona with

822
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: his mother. He was found shot in his car. He

823
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: he died at the hospital the next day. And the family,

824
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: the Brian Burns family, they believed for the last four

825
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: and a half years that Dante Neil did it. Davante

826
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: Neil did it. Yeah, how they believe. How they came

827
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: to believe that is not specified, but they have for

828
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: at least the last four years believed that he was

829
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: the perpetrator of the crime, and they must have come

830
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: across some new like forensic evidence or or something that

831
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 1: led them to have the ability to make this arrest.

832
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: And now Davante Neil, on the heels of what should

833
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: have been his first season as a college football position

834
00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: coach um is is in jail awaiting trial for murder.

835
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: And what the family of Brian Burns is saying is

836
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: a is a death penalty case. Bro Like, So is

837
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: he the only person is being implicated in this so far? Yeah? Wow?

838
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: And there's no nothing has been released to the media

839
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: that there's some people UM that cover idhost State athletics

840
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: that have probably done a better job of covering miss

841
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: than than than anyone. There's a few new stations down

842
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: in Arizona, obviously because he's been a UM if you

843
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: follow football in Arizona, he's been a household named for

844
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: the last fourteen years down there. UM that there's some

845
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: new stations down in Arizona that are covering it as well.

846
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: And while they've managed to interview a couple of family

847
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: members of the UM of the victim there, they're so

848
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: far has not been any presentation of motive by the

849
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: by the police. UM. The the indictment is currently sealed.

850
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: I believe UM. But we're talking about somebody who is

851
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: one of the who was recruited by every pactile school

852
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: and then ended up finishing his college career out starting

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Speaker 1: you know, three seasons for for University of Arizona, UM,

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Speaker 1: who is now facing a potential you know, death penalty

855
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: case UM for murder. I I hope it's it's not true.

856
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Speaker 1: I have people that I'm very close to who are

857
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: very close to him, very close and UM, and it's

858
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: and and you know, Charlie Regular is somebody that I

859
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: know and respect, is the head coach of of Idaho State.

860
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: And I reached out to him and he said, you know,

861
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: he's just bewildered right now. He had everybody seems to

862
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: say that they had absolutely no idea. So I think

863
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: the family, while the family was internally open about believing it,

864
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: they all kind of kept to themselves. And one of

865
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Speaker 1: the things that his aunt had posted on Facebook was

866
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Speaker 1: they like they watched him, they watched him have all

867
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Speaker 1: this success and build his life up the last few

868
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: years with these suspicions and now it's all you know,

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00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: oh so so so he was already under spishing for

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00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: it for a long time, especially by the family of

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00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: the victim. They um there there was one of the

872
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: reports even included that the brother, older brother Brandon Burns,

873
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: had seen Davante Neil at a mall um in uh

874
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: in Tempe and and had even approached him and asked

875
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: him some questions just to see if he could get

876
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: a feel for, um, why this might have happened, without

877
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: revealing that they that they suspected him. Um so it's

878
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, for for years, for at least the last

879
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: four years, they believed that Davante Neil was the perpetrator

880
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: of the crime, that that that took Brian Burns away

881
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: from them. She's bro absolutely, She's that is wild, dude, Like,

882
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: that is wild behavior. And I don't know if we'll

883
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, obviously we don't know if he's

884
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: guilty or innocent or whatever. But if this is true,

885
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: the why always is the thing for for me, like

886
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: why did you do this? Like where there are other options.

887
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: It's like the rapper Trouble just got killed and he

888
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: was a young woman had broken up with her boyfriend

889
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. She was in the bad sleep

890
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: with him. He came in there punching her in the

891
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: face and punching him in the face, and then he

892
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: started fighting him back and then he shot him. So

893
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: it's like, bro, like, I don't know, man, there has

894
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: to be other options in these situations, but you got no.

895
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: But do you have anything else to add on it

896
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: on on that particular story, No, um, But I do

897
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Speaker 1: have an update on the JT. Shroud Does anybody care tracker?

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports

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Speaker 1: radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app.

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Speaker 1: Search at are to liften Live. Okay, yes, yes, okay.

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Speaker 1: So on our last podcast, which came out two weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: we pointed out that one person had tweeted about J. T.

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Speaker 1: Shroud since April. We're talking about a former SEC quarterback

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00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: who is slated to be the starting quarterback of University

906
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: of Colorado, and just the overall apathy for this program

907
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: when you have tens of thousands of people sending hundreds

908
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: of thousands of tweets about college football every single day,

909
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: that nobody is mentioning JT. Shroud and that it had

910
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: been like one time in three months anybody had mentioned

911
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: his name, So we tweeted from the Pack twelve Apostles account.

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00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: You can follow Pack twelve Apostles on Twitter. We just

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00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: tweeted j T. Shrept just the name, and we said, anybody,

914
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: anybody who UH listens to this podcast that hears us

915
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: mentioned j T. Shroud, go ahead and favorite the um

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00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: the tweet, and the tweet actually got like sixteen likes.

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00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: People went back and found tweet and and favorite of it,

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01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: which made me laugh. UM. But the question was would

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01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: there be an uptick in conversation about J T. Shroud.

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01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: The answer is yes, there has. We have moved from

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01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: We have moved from one tweet about j T. Shrout

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01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: from people who are not us over a three month

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01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: period two drum roll, two tweets about j T shrout

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01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: improvement in the last two weeks from people who are

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01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: not us. UM. Somebody named Sam teats Uh Clemson two

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01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: thousand twenty graduate got a bachelors in sports communication, said

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01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: stat of the Day. Seven of the twelve projected starting

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01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the fact twelve this season arrived at their

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Speaker 1: current teams via spring transfer portal. And there's also j C.

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01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: J T. Trout who transferred from Colorado, So it's just

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Speaker 1: a basic fact that he was that he was tweeting out.

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01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: And then the other mention of j T. Shrout came

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Speaker 1: from nt double a Football Nation, a college football Twitter account,

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Speaker 1: and it said quarterback spotlight breakout watch j T. Shroud

935
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: at Colorado. Shroud is a transfer from Tennessee. In his career,

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01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: he's thrown for four yards, five touchdowns and three interceptions,

937
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: but it is only completed fifty six of his passes.

938
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: If he wins the QB one job, he will need

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01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: to improve his accuracy. Other than that, there's a few

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01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: people that tweeted about J T. Shroud because we did.

941
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: But I have some good news, George. J T. Shrout

942
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: tweeted himself that he got an n i L deal

943
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: with Blake Street Tavern, which I've been to. It's a

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01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: great place, uh to to to get a brew, maybe

945
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: go to watch a Rockies game afterward. Uh. He signed

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Speaker 1: an n I L deal with breat Blake Street Tavern.

947
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: He sent out a tweet promoting Blake Street Tavern and

948
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: they gave him tickets to the Rockies game and he

949
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: tweeted from the Rockies game. So J T. Shrout has

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01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: tweeted more about himself or an equal amount than anybody

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01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: else has in the last two weeks. Oh okay, all right,

952
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: well listen, he's moving in the right direction, clearly, right.

953
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: We will, we will, we will keep on this important

954
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: Pack twelve news. The j T shrout does anybody care? Tracker, Hey,

955
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: he's kind of he's kind of jacked for a quarterback.

956
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping he does literally anything positive so that

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01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: that we can get some hype behind this Colorado football program,

958
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 1: because it part it's not just Lincoln Riley's quote about like, well,

959
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: take any of the other leagues and take out their

960
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: best um, their best school and and and and that

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01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: would be what you have in the Pac twelve. Like, no,

962
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: there's a couple of schools in the Pack twelve that

963
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: like literally no one ever talks about. One of them

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01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: is Stanford, another one is is Colorado. And we're in

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01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: like serious jeopardy of of like an Oregon State and

966
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: a Washington State falling into that mix. And if it

967
01:02:55,680 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: wasn't for major scandals, Arizona State might be there too. Yep. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Oh And the last thing that I wanted to bring

969
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: up is and we can talk more about this on

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01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: the next UM episode. But Um John Wilner kind of

971
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: get did an interesting dive on the Pack twelve media

972
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: rights and how the Big Ten negotiations are gonna impact

973
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: the George Klikov's leverage because obviously the Big ten who

974
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: gets up, who will renegotiate their second deal, just like

975
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: the sec were renegotiated two deals in between the time

976
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: to Pack twelve was locked into what turned out to

977
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: be an awful contract. And the thing that concerned me,

978
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,959
Speaker 1: but it actually made sense because I actually believe him now,

979
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: is that he was like, well, the good news is

980
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: is that we own a hundred percent of nothing right now.

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01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: We instead of us owning, you know, and being locked

982
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: in there, now we have more or flexibility, which which

983
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. But you guys are gonna

984
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: see the Pack twelve likely on CBS NBC in terms

985
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: of football and basketball, and then the Pack twelve networks

986
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,479
Speaker 1: are probably going to be strictly a streaming service which

987
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: may get their services sold to like ESPN Plus for

988
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: the Olympic sports and then but for the rest of it,

989
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: you may either get a lot of Pack twelve on Fox,

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01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: a lot of Pack twelve on ESPN or Big because

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01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: if the Big ten takes all of their stuff to

992
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: Fox and their properties like the SEC has done, that

993
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: is the best case scenario for the Pack twelve because

994
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: now you have CBS and NBC who want more football

995
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: because NBC wants to expand. And I actually think that

996
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: that is the thing that Colin Coward was alluding to

997
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: as it related to USC, because I think that USC

998
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: is going to try to sign an individual deal with

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01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: with NBC or or some other company the way that

1000
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame has because Notre because NBC loves the Notre

1001
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: Dame brand, USC and Notre Dame like that would actually

1002
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: increase the value of their USC Notre Dame game and

1003
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: ensure that they always get it. Like I think that,

1004
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: and then the Pact twelve would actually have more leverage

1005
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: with ESPN if that happens, and would c CBS as

1006
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: as well, because the SEC is gonna take up all

1007
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: the oxygen on on the ESPN networks and the A,

1008
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: c UH and ABC. But there's some more room if

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01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: the Big ten is completely off of ESPN. Well, I

1010
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: hope oop that some of the octogenarians that haven't changed

1011
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: the channel from CBS in the last twenty years UM

1012
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: and have helped make every version of MS he I

1013
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 1: asked the number one show just because they can't change

1014
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: the channel ready for some pactwel social justice initiatives coming

1015
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: to a coming to a tube TV near you. No,

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01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: you are one, right, yeah, but they would have to

1017
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: get over it. Right. Let's let's close out with give

1018
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: us a little update on this, uh this Oregon State

1019
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: quarterback commit that just came down the pike. Alright, So

1020
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 1: so you have eight in childs. He plays it downing

1021
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: gets about six four or six five, almost rocket arm.

1022
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,959
Speaker 1: He is a good athlete, but he's not a run

1023
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: like you like. He is a very mobile quarterback, but

1024
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: he's not a runner. He's got big broad shoulders, slings

1025
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: the ball of country mile. He's every single thing that

1026
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,439
Speaker 1: you are looking for in a quarterback, every single thing.

1027
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: He comes from a good family. He's a hard worker,

1028
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: he's a leader. And I remember when he was asking

1029
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: me about what school that he should go to, because

1030
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: Oregon State was kind of the first UH Power five

1031
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: school that was on him. Hawaii was interested in San

1032
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: Diego State, a few other places, San Jose Stay, a

1033
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: few other places. Oregon State got on board with Jonathan Smith.

1034
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: Washington followed Oregon, Uh, bunch of other places, Kansas State,

1035
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: like a lot of other places. He asked me what

1036
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: I thought about all of these places now? I said,

1037
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: why because he took an o V to Washington as well.

1038
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, Washington, Uh, Kyle Kaylindvor. Obviously he

1039
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: did a good job with Jake Hayner last year, but

1040
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: we don't know fully how he's going to respond in

1041
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve. I was like, but there's no problem

1042
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: with going to watch and they have a great fan

1043
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: fan base. If they can get everything together, just just fine,

1044
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: right um. He asked me about Jonathan Smith. I was like,

1045
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: this dude is really really good at offense. He's he's

1046
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: a good, good leader. Look at what he's turned like

1047
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: he turned a dumpster fire into you better bring your

1048
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: hard hat and and you know, like you may out

1049
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: talent us, but but if you don't bring you but

1050
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: if you don't bring lead, Like if you're way more

1051
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: talented than us and you bring anything less than your

1052
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 1: B game, you could get knocked off that that day.

1053
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: Like they don't just get their doors blown off. They

1054
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: are super competitive and you will be ready to go

1055
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: to the NFL and make sure. And also you don't

1056
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: want to always go with with with people who just

1057
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: are there when you are there for the good times,

1058
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: like an Oregon State showed up earlier than a lot

1059
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: of other people. And you know, I've been a big

1060
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: believer in Jonathan Smith because obviously I didn't think that

1061
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley was available for USC. But who did I

1062
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: say that USC should throw all of their money at

1063
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith? Yes, yes, no we did. We We we

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Speaker 1: said that. Uh. We went back and forth on winning

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Speaker 1: Ham and Smith being the guy uh for for USC.

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Speaker 1: And you you you never waver I think you you

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Speaker 1: change your mind on on winning hand, but you never

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Speaker 1: wavered on Smith. Well, well, I just didn't think that

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Speaker 1: winning Ham was was was going to be available, like

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Speaker 1: I mean everything. I still do believe that everything is

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Speaker 1: for sale. Everything ain't on sale. So but but for

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Speaker 1: Winningham to come to USC, like the package would have

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Speaker 1: had to be been better than what they gave Lincoln

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. They would have they would have had been

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Speaker 1: like listen, you need to move my entire house to

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Speaker 1: to uh to California park me next to a mountain.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like it's for sale. It just ain't on sale.

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Speaker 1: It's just a matter of if you're willing to pay

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Speaker 1: that price. Well that's how we got shout out to

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Speaker 1: cal al um U Jalen Brown in pursuit of an

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Speaker 1: NBA championship over the same region that he of the

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Speaker 1: pro team where he played college basketball. Oh nice, nice

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Speaker 1: not to mention the Oregon guy, Peyton Peyton Pritchard. Way

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Speaker 1: to go, buddy, Thanks a lot. I'm sorry, thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that Jalen Brown went to cal.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a different Jalen Jaden Brown, which

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Speaker 1: is crazy. But you know, well, because Jalen, Jalen and Jaden,

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Speaker 1: there's like a six year period where literally every kid

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Speaker 1: that was born had the long a in their name,

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Speaker 1: and most of them were Jalen's and Jaden's. So it's

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Speaker 1: okay to make that mistake. Alright, that's back twelve Apostles,

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Speaker 1: Peace out, catch you later.