1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Doctor Frankenstein, ron Ananian, you're putting me on, ron Ananian, 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: the car was four thousand miles over do. It had 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: gone eight thousand miles. That means since its last oil change, 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: we took out three quarters of a quarter of oil. 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: But a filthy job could be? How could be ready? 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: The car doctor, Who've got the power in your hands 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: to take care of that car? And if you don't, 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: I think you're headed for a big fall somewhere else 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: down the one. I wouldn't do that if I were you. 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor, 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight nine and now 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: excuse me while I whipped this out running. Hey, come 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: on in, sit down, Ronating in the car Doctor at 18 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: your service here today. Thank you very much for being 19 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: with me. I really appreciate the fact that you're taking 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: time to spend time with me. The next two hours 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: or so on radio here as we talk about your 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: automobile in the changing world of automobiles, because it surely 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: is changing, and we're gonna talk about that in a 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: couple of minutes. I want to get that out in 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: the open. But um, right now, I just want to 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: say thanks, and I appreciate your being here. This radio 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: show is all about you and your car and your questions. 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: Eight five five five zero nine zero zero is the 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: phone number again, that's eight five five five zero zero. 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: Give us a call if we're not on the air, 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: and we're live out on the network Saturday's two to 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: four pm Eastern time. If we're not on the air, 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: leave a message and we will call you back and 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: put you in the lineup and put you in the 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: queue so we can talk to you up here on radio. 36 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: And don't be afraid. It's only radio. Listen, it's just 37 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: you and me and maybe my mom's listening and a 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: few other people. It's it's no big deal. Really, it 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: really isn't. So don't be afraid. Let's ask your question 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: this way. When I answer it and give you some direction, 41 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: it will help not just you, but help everybody else. 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: Because that's really what I enjoyed doing these past years 43 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: on radio. Forty three years repairing automobiles. That makes it 44 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: really great. Do you ever feel like you're living in 45 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: the future. You want to go? I want to go 46 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: to the future with me. I can take you there. 47 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: You ready, close your eyes, take a deep breath, and wait. Ang, 48 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: We're in the future. And I say it like that 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: because I think we are moving faster towards the evolution 50 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: and change of the automobile in the industry then I 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: anticipated it. We lost five repair shops this week in 52 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: North Jersey that I know of that I can count 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: that I had first had knowledge of. And two of 54 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: them went out because the landlord where the properties were 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: sitting decided that he wanted to sell the properties. And 56 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: I get that that happens, but they were on the 57 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: verge of retirement and getting out, and you know the 58 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: cost of technology, and the conversation with them was how 59 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: do you keep up? And they were looking to get 60 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: out anyway. The other three were pushed out by technology 61 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: because it's changing so fast they can't keep up. There's 62 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: no way for them to keep up. I don't know 63 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen to two of those three, but one 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: of them is going to become a wah wah, which 65 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: will make my youngest Ninian very happy. She willed to 66 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: get her cheese pretzels there she ever comes home. But um, 67 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: it just shows you where it's going. Now. One of 68 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: the shops a personal friend of mine, he's going to 69 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: be getting a job at a local dealership, and he 70 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: he told me where he's going and the car line 71 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: and how he had sat down with the service manager 72 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: and hired and they had this you know, candid conversation 73 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: because it's really you know, to you the vehicle owner, 74 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: you don't see this stuff. This is what we deal 75 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: with every day. We're looking at the future. We're looking 76 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: at the end of an industry. To you, you just 77 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: see the car change. But you know, you still get 78 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: any you started up, you fill it up with gas 79 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: or maybe you charge it electrically now I don't know, 80 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: and it still works. But for us, there's no more 81 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: choke pull offs, there's no more carburetor adjustments, there's there's 82 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: no more valve jobs, engine repair, there's no more trans overhauls. 83 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: Spoke to a fella with an Amco transmission of national 84 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: franchise chain here in Jersey and his franchise is expiring 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: in a year and he's not gonna renew what He's 86 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: gonna see if Amco does anything about it. But he 87 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: said at one point they were doing eighteen to twenty 88 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: two transmissions a month as of five years ago. Okay, 89 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: he said, in the last two years that has shrunk 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: to two to three transmissions a month. Think about that. 91 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: It has caused him to buy a tire machine, a 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: brake lathe start doing exhaust work. And my comment was, well, 93 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: you're you're you're a day late and a dollar short 94 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: because exhaust is gone. Um, you know, maybe there's some 95 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: tire work out there yet, and there is. Tires are 96 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: still around, but the rest of the stuff. Brake work 97 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: is drying up. Their brake work doesn't exist like it 98 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: once did. Cars don't go through brakes as often as 99 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: they once did. Heck, look at the Toyota Prius. I 100 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: defy anybody that that owns a Toyota Prius to tell 101 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: me they ever put back brakes on the car. Heck, 102 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: front brakes on the car for that matter. It's just 103 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: front brakes, maybe rear brakes never just they just don't 104 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: seem to wear out. And looking at all of this, 105 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: I can see the change and I wonder if you do. 106 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: I wonder if you're aware of it, or to you 107 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: is it just well, I boughten car and now I'm 108 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: gonna go buy a car, and then you're gonna buy 109 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: a car, And will you see the change? Will you 110 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: experience it? And I don't. I don't know that you will. 111 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't know that you care. Here's where you'll care. 112 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: Here's why it's important to be aware of all this. 113 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: In thinking of the five repair shops that I know 114 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: of that went out this week, I haven't heard of 115 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: anybody opening a new repair shop in the area in 116 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: a very long time. That that twenty two year old, 117 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: fresh faced kid with a watful of money to walk 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: in the door and say, hey, I want to buy 119 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: your business or I want to buy your building hasn't happened, 120 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: not here. And maybe it's different for those of you 121 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: in the Midwest. I realized, you know, we play everywhere. 122 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: We're in Iowa, we're in Florida, we're in southern California 123 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: and so on. You know, it's different there. And I 124 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: can tell it's different by reading the trends and the 125 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: comments and the forums and and the conversations of mechanics 126 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: from around the country there there. They haven't seen to 127 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: the degree that we're seeing it, in my opinion, and 128 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 1: it's going to affect us. It's going to affect you 129 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: because that's five less shops the snap on tool driver 130 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 1: gets to go to every week that the mactool guide 131 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: doesn't have to go see anymore. That's five less shops. 132 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: It's making sandwiches out of the delicate tests, and that's 133 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: five less sets of employees. In some cases, two of 134 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: the shops were big, they were ten fifteen person operations. 135 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: And they're not driving to work anymore. They're not putting 136 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: tolls in the tall bucket, they're not using up their cars, 137 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: which didn't help the repair shops but consumed automobiles. And 138 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: and that that process is going to be repeated over 139 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: and over and over again as we make the change. 140 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: And I just think it's the future. I really do. 141 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: Someone said to me this week, she asked me a 142 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: close personal friend. She asked me, she said, are you upset? 143 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: I said, I don't know if I'm upset as much 144 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: as concerned, because it is a little unsettling all of 145 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: a sudden. Imagine something you've done all your life and poof, 146 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: it's gone and you're not doing it anymore, and nobody's 147 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: doing it anymore. It's not something you did, it's just 148 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: something that technology kind of twisted you around. I can 149 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: see it in the radio show. We were talking about 150 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: this last week after last week's show. I can see 151 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: it in the radio show. Watch the calls that come 152 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: in on a on a regular basis. It seems like 153 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: tens you barely get questions about those. We had four 154 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: escape question last week. It was a question about computer reflashing. 155 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't the car hiccup and died or stalled, there 156 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: was flashing lights or wouldn't start or you know, it 157 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: was a computer related problem. But the questions we get 158 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: a lot are, my twenty year old car needs exhausting. 159 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 1: The stud broke off in the manifold. How am I 160 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: going to get it out? Yeah, of course, you know 161 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: it's twenty years old. Of course you expect exhaust to go. 162 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: But we're not getting calls for ten year old cars 163 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: about exhaust studs. We're not getting cars for five year 164 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: old cars about exhaust studs. Because it doesn't go bad. 165 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: It's better material, better made. It's just changing. So if 166 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: you ever want to go to the future and get 167 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: there with me, You're gonna do it two ways. You're 168 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: gonna tune into this radio show. You can take the 169 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: podcasts and listen to them. Car Doctor Show dot com. 170 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: By the way, tune in. I heard iTunes et cetera. 171 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: Are You're gonna close your eyes and breathe count to 172 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: five and when you open them, you're in the future 173 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: and whatever you see. Yeah, that's really it. Hello and 174 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: welcome Ron and any in the Car Doctor here. Look 175 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: at that. I'm here again. It must be the future. 176 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna kick the garage doors wide open and start 177 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: taking your phone calls. But first let's pull over and 178 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: take this pause. But I'll be back at zero. Stay tuned, 179 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Where they need the Car Doctor here? Zero 180 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: the phone number. Yeah, Tony was asking me during the break. 181 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: He said, so, Ron, was it was it a surprise 182 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: that those shops went out? And I said, you know, 183 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: tell him they've They've been around a long time. One 184 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: of the shops was built back in the fifties, big, gigantic, 185 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: six basin local station. Huge And it was interesting. The 186 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: one fellow that I know that's going to get a 187 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: job in a dealership. Um, this service manager said, yeah, 188 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: we're just having a hard time to keep up with 189 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: technology ourselves. And we expect the manufacturer of that car 190 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: line is expecting to take over at least of the 191 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: independent repair shop business in the next four or five 192 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: years because the fact that they can't keep up with 193 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: technology or keeping up with it's gonna be that much harder. 194 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: And and my question to that was, so are people 195 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: going to be happy being forced by technology strictly going 196 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: back to dealerships if they don't have a choice, And 197 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: and and that makes an interesting argument too. You know, 198 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: remember the independent automotive repair shops really came to be 199 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: as a result of the Second World War. There there 200 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: was no dealership chain. Then, there was no place to 201 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: take your car to get a fixed other than the 202 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: corner garage. And that's where the independent after market came from. 203 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: They were manufacturing parts and manufacturing parts and things were 204 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: being assembled as a result of the war. Once the 205 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: war was over, obviously, the dealership structure went into place 206 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: and it grew from there. My point being that people 207 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: have always had that choice, and I know, you know what, 208 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: it will never be a one way or the other. 209 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: But it's going to change drastically. The landscape is changing, 210 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: and that was the point of my opening comments. But 211 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: good foot, Tony. I appreciate it as always my man, 212 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: big team on the other side of the glass, keeping 213 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: me honest and keeping me going. Let's kick the garage 214 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: doors open and go over and talk to Douglas. Douglas 215 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: rononading the car doctor at your service, or how can 216 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: I help? Yes? Since is I've got a couple of 217 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: questions ask you. I've got a four GMC with a 218 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: six point oh, I got a hundred and forty five 219 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it, and I've changed the oil regularly 220 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: every three thous of miles since I had it, and 221 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: it don't burn a drop of oil? Would it be 222 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: wise for me to to switch over to the high 223 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: mileage oil? Now? Would you know the cost of it? 224 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Would it be worth it? It's not gonna hurt anything, 225 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: you know. Let me explain the the idea behind high 226 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: mileage oil, Douglas is they're putting editors in there to 227 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: help keep the seals soft. They're putting editors in there 228 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: to reduce burn off potential because the theory becomes it 229 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: after a certain amount of mileage and engine will start 230 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: to burn off oil. You know, I'm surprised hime mile 231 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: of oil hasn't made a bigger dent in the marketplace 232 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: in terms of market share. And then I'm also surprised 233 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: that it actually came to be because I think the 234 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: person that does the oil change, like you every three 235 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: thousand miles, I don't think they need to, not in 236 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: my opinion, not from what I've seen. And I'm going 237 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: on what I've seen in the bay firsthand and what 238 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: I've what I've read and and and stayed up on 239 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: over the years. So I questioned it at that point. 240 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: I think just using a good oil, good filter, regular service. 241 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: I think that's the key to longevity. It's it's just 242 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: like it's just like taking care of yourself, you know what. 243 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm getting to be at the ripe bold age now 244 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: and I've taken care of myself each and every day, 245 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: and I've done my due diligence and here I am 246 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: so proofs in the pudding. Okay, one more question? Uh 247 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: brand name? Yeah? Absolutely, I use Lucas fuel injection cleaner. 248 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Every time I changed the oil, I put some of 249 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: that in the gas tank. Is that a good idea. Um, 250 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: I like that idea. Yeah, Um, I like fuel injection additives. Uh, 251 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: probably more frequently than that, but doing it every oil 252 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: change is a good idea. And you know, Lucas is 253 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: a good brand. We don't have exposure to it here 254 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: in North Jersey like i'd like to, or if I 255 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: wanted to. I've got enough other choices. Uh. You know, 256 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: we were talking about this last week techron berryman uh 257 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: CRC one tank power renew And I've gotten a couple 258 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: of requests, more than a couple of requests the past 259 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: week about a prescription. What would I write for each 260 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: one of those cars? Because I think each one of 261 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: those cleaners has a different place. From what I've read, 262 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm not as up on Lucas and their fuel injection 263 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: cleaner as I am on the others. But I will 264 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: tell you this my exposure to Lucas products from what 265 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: I see day to day in the shop. We still 266 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: have There's a Lucas transadditive, uh for transit are slipping. 267 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: There's a Lucas power steering additive. Both of those are 268 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: great products and they work really well. That's correct. Uh. 269 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: What what would you figure every Oh, you know, once 270 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: a month. How many miles a you go in a month? Douglas? Oh, yeah, 271 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: I don't put much on maybe, oh I don't know. 272 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: Four a month? Yeah, um, you know once a month. 273 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: Then so what has that about a tank and a half? Yeah, 274 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, so you know what once once 275 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: a month, once every once every six weeks. Here's here's 276 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: the deal, all right, and here's why. You know, if 277 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: you had called me ten years ago and I was 278 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: on the air ten years ago, uh, if you had 279 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: called me ten years ago, I would have said, you know, 280 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: it would have been strictly techron and it would have 281 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: been on a regular basis. We've had a different conversation. 282 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: Was a different generation of engines, GERO four uh six 283 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: Leader GMC truck is is pretty much old school. There's 284 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: some new things about it, but the concern is still carbon. 285 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: If this was a gasoline direct injection engine, which it's not, 286 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: then the conversation would have been geared more towards a 287 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: heavier dose of or a stronger in tank solution, because 288 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: that's the only way you can clean the carbon other 289 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: than pulling things apart and doing walnut shells and things 290 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: we used to do thirty forty years ago. My point is, 291 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't think you can be overly concerned about carbon 292 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: deposits on engines today simply because of what I see 293 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: the industry trying to do them by the industry, I 294 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: mean the gasoline industry under regulations by the government. The 295 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: industry is still being forced within the next eighteen months 296 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: from everything I've read, to take fuel additives, the things 297 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: that clean the fuel, you know, the carbon fuel cleaning additives, 298 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: the detergent editives out of gasoline. So it's gonna be 299 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: a matter of octane and a few other things. But 300 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: the differences in terms of you know, one company saying 301 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: ours clean is better than their's. I don't think that's 302 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a marketing campaign anymore or anything they can 303 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: market around it. Uh. You know, it's gonna make the 304 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: need for using a fuel system tank cleaner on a 305 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: regular basis just that much more important. So, you know, 306 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Let me ask you a question, Douglas. 307 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: You're you're changing the oil and you're doing gasoline additive. 308 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: Are you changing any are you changing any of the 309 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: other fluids I I've had all the front end, are 310 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: end the transmission because I have A, I have a 311 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: six ft standard in mind, and I've changed that florid. 312 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: I've been all all the fluids change correctly, right, and 313 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 1: that's good, and that's real good break fluid brake fluid 314 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: I just had. I just had all the brake lines 315 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: change sports and you know all the weather we have 316 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: up there with all the staffers. Sure, yeah, I have. 317 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 1: I I had a brake line let go because of that. 318 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: So I knuckled under for the five dollars, done all 319 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: the lines and all that stuff. So we're we're good. 320 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: They're all new brake fluid and everything. Now did they 321 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: use did they use the kid available from General Motors? YEA, yep, yep, 322 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: they've changed that and for everyone else's benefit out their 323 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: General Motors has had their issues with brake lines on 324 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: the oh G. I think it's started way back as 325 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: early as the early nineties, and I'm not sure how 326 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: far back the kids go, but for a lot of 327 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: the GMC trucks and and GM trucks and suburbans and 328 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: SUVs and everything of that class, they've got more than 329 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: a few brake line kids out there. And there is 330 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: zinc coded line and the plastic coded line. They've really 331 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: made some great changes. And I can't praise them for 332 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: it because, in this mechanic's opinion, they should have done 333 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: it right in the first place. But they did get 334 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: their act together. And um, you know, I always say 335 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: car companies, they all have their problems. They all have 336 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: their issues. It depends on how fast it takes them 337 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: from the wise up and get smart. Douglass. I appreciate 338 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: the call, and I'm proud to catch you among my listeners. 339 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: And I wish you many more miles in your GMC truck. 340 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: And I want to thank you for taking the time today. 341 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: You'd take good care, you have a good weekend. I'm 342 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: running any in the card doctor eight five five five 343 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: six zero zero phone number calling now getting on the 344 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: car doctor Hot one. I'll be back right after this. 345 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: Don't go away, Hey, welcome back. Why don't they needing 346 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: the car Doctor eight zero zero. Let's get over. Let's 347 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: go talk to Dave Minnesota with a Hot Wheels Camaro. 348 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: Cool Dave, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. What's going on? 349 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: Hello there, Yes, sir, so I've got a two thousand, 350 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: thirteen Hot Wheels Camaro. It's got a six point two 351 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: lead in it. And the fellow that had it before 352 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: me um right when he bought it, put a Langon's 353 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: shelter um super charger on it. Okay, okay um. And 354 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: my question is, when I'm going down the road, Let's 355 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: say I got the cruise set at sixty, it feels 356 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: like the boost. It feels like there's a boost um 357 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: tallsating boost, I guess is the easiest way to say it. 358 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: Like it's like, yeah, you know, you just feel it 359 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: kind of like surge a little bit. And I'm just 360 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: wondering if that's typical. I've never had a car with 361 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: a supercharger in it before, so no, that's not that's 362 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: not typical. You know, this the idea of the super charger. 363 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: It's supposed to run pretty smooth, and if it's if 364 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: it's married together correctly, it's it's seamless. It's something you 365 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: don't really experience until you, you know, hit it and 366 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: put your foot into the headlight and then off it goes. 367 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: So my questions are like, well, let me let me 368 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: say like this. My questions would be, So it's a 369 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: Linenfelder bolt on kit onto an otherwise regular port fuel 370 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: injected or injected Camaro have you talked to Lincoln Felder 371 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: to you know, ask them what the guidelines are, what 372 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: the expectations are. No, I haven't. I talked to him 373 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: when I first got the car, um and they sent 374 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: me all the video of the car, so I had it. 375 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: So I had all the documentation because dealership that this 376 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: guy traded didn't act, did not have it. So and 377 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: this is my first step because I heard your show 378 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, thank you. Um. Well, first 379 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: of all, hot Wheels Camaro is a rare piece. So 380 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure Lincoln Felder if it wasn't done at Lincoln Felder, 381 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: at lincolnf Felder garage itself, yes it was. Yeah, I 382 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: would think they would remember the car, and you know 383 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: they actually yeah. Uh. You know my experience, whether it's 384 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: an aftermarket or a factory supercharged car, you wouldn't want 385 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: that type of a you know, like the cars going 386 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: and pulling back and going and pulling back sensation, because 387 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: why would you want to drive it? It's uncomfortable and 388 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure it is right, I'm sure it's not that bad. 389 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that big of a deal. It's 390 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: just I just curious what would cause that probably the 391 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: way the boost valve is set up, or either that 392 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: or maybe there's a fault in the fuel curve. If 393 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: if we were going to take a look at it, 394 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: I would tell you I'd want to see what fuel 395 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: trim was. I'd want to know who's got the tune 396 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: in it and who has the command for the tune. 397 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure Lincoln Felder has their own uh tune add 398 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: on module that will modify fuel and spark curve to 399 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: get it to do what it wants to do. So 400 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: I want to know is that is that adjustable? And 401 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: it probably is? And that that that's one of your 402 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: questions to them. Uh, you know, think of it. Think 403 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: think of it like this. You you bought a car 404 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: with an engine computer on it from General Motors, and 405 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: General Motors says, uh, you know, we're gonna make this 406 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: much advance and this much fuel trim, and we're gonna 407 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: run the car this way. And then Lincoln Felder comes 408 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: along and puts their kid on it. And then they say, Okay, 409 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna either take away GM's kit and do this 410 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: completely with our own set up, or we're gonna add 411 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: this on top of GM's computer and modify their modification. 412 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: So you know, your question to Lincoln Felder has to 413 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: be a is this normal because a regular supercharged Camaro, 414 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: because they're out there, doesn't have that problem. And you 415 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: know that's that's number one and then number two. Um, 416 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: you know, the question is is it modifiable? Is it 417 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: is it? Can you change it? You know? And um, 418 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: is it a matter of just you know, installing a 419 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: tune or programming it differently? A couple of weeks ago 420 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: we were talking about it, and maybe this is the 421 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: time to bring it up. There's a company out there, 422 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: Diablo Sport, Diablo sport dot com. A matter of fact, 423 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: last week we gave away a programmer. And what what 424 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: what a programmer gives you the ability to do is 425 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 1: you could dial in and tell it I've got Camaro. 426 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: You know, this is the gear ratio, this is the 427 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: tire size, is the octane fuel I want to use? 428 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: And I want to try a mile tune, of a 429 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: medium range tune and aggressive tune and so on. But 430 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: my point is, back in the day, we used to 431 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: do all these tuning with screw drivers and timing lights. 432 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: Now they're now they're doing it electronically, and you know, 433 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: maybe if Lynoon Felder comes back to you and says, well, 434 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: our our supercharger works in conjunction with the GM computer 435 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: and we just put our own software in there, and 436 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: there is no way to tune it. Then my question 437 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: would be, if you talk to a company like the 438 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: Oblo Sport, do they have the ability to modify that tune. 439 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: That's another way to go. That's another way to look 440 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: at You would think you would hope, all right, But 441 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: you know what, I you know, I gotta I have 442 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: to tell you, Dave, I never take anything for granted. 443 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: In the day and age of of of listen the 444 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: way the presidential election is going, with the insanity of that, 445 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't take anything for granted anymore. So, I uh, 446 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: I try to look at everything from a calm, cool perspective, 447 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: and if this doesn't work, how do I go onto 448 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: the next thing? Um? So that's that's how I would 449 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: approach it. Those are the questions I would be answering. 450 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: But I'm sure, I'm sure there's a way to repair it. 451 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: I'll put it to you this way. I was reading 452 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: the trades and the journals, and I read the failure report. 453 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: You know, you know, I guess I'm I guess I'm 454 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: just a sayist at hard. I sit I sit up 455 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: in bed at night, and I read the failure reports 456 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: that come in from around the country from various mechanic 457 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: websites and things that are failures. And I was reading 458 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: about the supercharged uh Camaros as a matter of fact 459 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: two weeks ago, and a P zero thirty three supercharger 460 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: bypassed valve solinoid control circuit is the fifth or fourth 461 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: or fifth biggest failure GM is having with that particular model. 462 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: So I know the bypass valve control is a real issue, 463 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: and they really take a look at it and has 464 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: to be dead nuts on the money to to make 465 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 1: the vehicle run properly. So my point is that they 466 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: can be finicky, they can be fussy, but there are 467 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: ways to tune them and adjust them. Okay, all right, sir, 468 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: Well that was my million dollar question. You're very welcome 469 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: day Before you go, real quick, what part of Ohio 470 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: are you in. I'm in oh I bought it in Ohio. 471 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm in Minnesota, Okay, okay, so you're listening to us 472 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: out in Minnesota. I alright, just always always want to 473 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: know where the affiliates. Sorry, listen, you have a good afternoon, 474 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: and thanks for being part of the Car Doctor. We 475 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: appreciate it. You take good care. You're welcome. Bye bye. 476 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: Um quick piece of email. UM, well I like that. 477 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: See that. Now, that's a that's a rare car. Hot 478 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: wheels Camaro. Uh. You know they produced those in in 479 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: limited numbers. And part of the reason they produced those 480 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: in such limited numbers was, you know, it's it's they're 481 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: they were paying homage to the kids that grew up, 482 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: that generation had come of age and those kids played 483 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: with those cars. They were hot wheels, and uh, you know, 484 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: it's kind of a neat So he's he's actually got 485 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: a very rare piece there. He's got something. I won't 486 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: say it's as rare as a Copo Camaro, a sixty 487 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: nine Copo or a zero one or any of those, 488 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: but you know it's a that's a pretty rare piece. 489 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: So don't think factory hot rods aren't there. I was 490 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: gonna do a piece of email. Let's pull over and 491 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: take the pause. I'll do the email when I get back. 492 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: Ron Nating the Car Doctor. Rate your service zero zero zero. 493 00:26:53,680 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: Don't go away. We're coming back right after this. Welcome back. 494 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: Why don't they need the car doctor? Nine zero? Let's 495 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Tina Peaks Gil New York. TEENA. 496 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: You're on with the car doctor. How can I help? Hi? Ron? 497 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: How are you doing all right? How are you good? Um? 498 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: So I have a two tho um Subaru Impress sixty 499 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: miles and I noticed that it's time for some recommended service. 500 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: Now the manufacturer and my mechanic tell me two different 501 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: things on what is actually do. So I wanted to 502 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: see in your opinion what should be done? Okay, what's um? 503 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: Can you give me a brief idea of what the 504 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: manufacturer saying? Um? Yeah, they were saying, um, let me 505 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: see tune up, And like my mechanic was saying, no, 506 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: that's not tell a hundred thousand miles well defined example. 507 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's start there. What's defined tune up? What 508 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: are they saying as a tune up? Um, the spark plugs, 509 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: PCV valve, they are filter. Um, I don't think it 510 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: has a fuel filter. No it doesn't. Um yeah, Um 511 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: so that basically, and I'm trying to think they said 512 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: all they said, um press, stone and transmission are not 513 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: do until a hundred thousand miles either and that kind 514 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: of concerned me or the real death well, the the um, okay, 515 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: the transmission in all likelihoods this this should be a 516 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: CVT trans right, And they don't call for that to 517 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: be replaced. Well, they call for it at sixty manufacturer wise, 518 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: but I know a lot of them. I know a 519 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: lot of them, don't all right, now, the spark plugs 520 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: at sixty, I believe they call for it, And I 521 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: would tell you the best way to do it is 522 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: to check it in the owner's manual. They'll give you 523 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: a table in the back of the book. I would 524 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: look under. I would look under the severe service application, 525 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: all right, because to me, best to go according to 526 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: their service manual or my mechanics recommendation. Well, let's I'm 527 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: not sure what your mechanics recommending. I don't know what 528 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: he's basing it on, all right, I could tell you 529 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: all fluid changes, um, and basically yeah, that's about about it. Um. 530 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: But he did recommend the transfer case also, So so 531 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: your your mechanic is your mechanic is how is your 532 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: mechanic different than the manufacturer? What's he saying is different? 533 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: Not to do? No? Um? Tune up. Okay, And but 534 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: he did recommend like the rear DIF and the press 535 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: stone and the transmission, where the manufacturer did not. Okay, 536 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: Subaru is very funny. Let me start at the back 537 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: of the car. Then. First of all, the rear DIF 538 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: fluid is either going to be a synthetic or a 539 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: conventional gar oil. I have no problem changing that every 540 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: thirty thousand miles, never mind never mind every sixty. So 541 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: I agree with that royal is gear oil. Uh. You know, 542 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: in a Subaru, I'm sure you're out in all kinds 543 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: of weather. Uh. You know, most people buy subar ruth 544 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: because they wanted for the four wheel drive power and 545 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: the bad weather capability. And you know it's it's not 546 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: being abused, but it's being worked. So I have no 547 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: problem with changing gear oil on a regular basis. Trans 548 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: fluid at sixty I'm not wont to let any fluid 549 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: go the limit. It seems that every CVT trans has 550 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: a different timeline or a different fluid requirement. I believe 551 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: Subaru does call forward at sixty, and I would verify 552 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: that against the service manual. If they say change it, 553 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: change it, and it'll either being a service manual or 554 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: will be in your owner's manual. In the back. They 555 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: always give you a chart and a recommended guide to follow. 556 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: As far as severe service, now I'm saying manufacturer, not 557 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: what the dealer prints out. Dealers do have a bad 558 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,239 Speaker 1: habit of coming up with their own book. They'll make 559 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: it look like the factory book. But there's little nuances 560 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: and differences there that you can tell that make you say, yeah, 561 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: this is the real deal. So I have no problem 562 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: doing gear oil, have no problem doing transfer case. They 563 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: have no problem doing trains if they recommend it. Spark plugs, 564 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: I believe Subaru calls for plugs at sixty if they 565 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: call for If they call for plugs at a hundred, 566 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: then I would tell you to change them at seventy 567 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: five to eighty, following my rule that I always talk about, 568 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: because by the time the car gets a hundred thousand 569 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: miles on it, the plugs probably won't come out of 570 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: the aluminum head. They'll be stuck. So that becomes that 571 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: becomes a horse of another color. That's a whole another problem. 572 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure they'll I'm pretty sure they'll call 573 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: forward at sixty and air filter is a no brainer, 574 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: a cabin filter wouldn't be a bad idea. If it 575 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: has one, it should. A cabin filter really typically gets 576 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: replaced every fifteen to twenty thousand miles, depending upon operating conditions. 577 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: And then I would tell you to have some type 578 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: of a carbon cleaning done, something where they are doing 579 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: a couple of things, cleaning the throttle body, which is 580 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: the air intake, putting a fuel system cleaner in the tank, 581 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: which you should be doing on a regular every three 582 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: month basis at the least, all right, and doing a 583 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: carbon cleaning where you're hooking a machine up with some 584 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: sort of de turgent chemical in it to clean the injectors, 585 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: the intake, and the tops of the pistons. And yeah, 586 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: go ahead, what fuel cleaner do you recommend for that 587 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: in that car? In that car, I think you'll be 588 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: fine with either a tech Ron. Tech Ron will work well, 589 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: or a or Berriman if you can find it. Berryman 590 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: is a little tough to find right now. Um you 591 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: can find okay. And how about the press stone change, 592 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: that's okay? So well, you know when they talk about 593 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: press stone, first of all, you're gonna put Subaru coolant 594 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: in it, not press Stone. I'm not a fan of 595 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of universal any freezes unless I 596 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: absolutely positively have no choice. I'm not convinced of it. 597 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: And you know, tell your mechanic if he's gonna end 598 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: up doing it, to be cautious. There is a bulletin 599 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: out from Subaru where they don't want people to do 600 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: cooling flushes. I don't necessarily agree with this, but Subaru's 601 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: concern is that if a shop is doing multiple different 602 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: types of cooling flushes and they did a Ford prior 603 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: to the suber, there's gonna be some residue of the 604 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: Ford cooling in there, and then that's going to contaminate 605 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: what goes into the subie. So I get that. I 606 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: understand that, but you know the likelihood of a shop 607 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: having a dedicated suber room machine. So I always tell everybody, listen, 608 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: just make sure the shop flushes the container that the 609 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: cooling goes into and empties it and then you know, 610 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: doing Subaru stuff. Uh yeah, I have no problem with that. 611 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: You'll be just fine, all right, Okay, It would be 612 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: um safe to do the transmission fluid absolutely absolutely. It's 613 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: not like you're changing it every ten thousand. If you're 614 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: changing it every sixty and they call for it every hundred. 615 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. You know, there's there 616 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: always remember there's manufacturers, spec, and there's real world. You 617 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: and I live in the real world. I'm not trying 618 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: to sell you a car and two on a thousand miles. 619 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep your car on the road so 620 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: I don't have to deal with you getting a new 621 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: one every couple of years. All right, Okay, you're very welcome, Tina, 622 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: very well, very welcome. Take good care. Eight five five 623 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: six zero. We're back right after this. Well, kids, tonight 624 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: I got the feeling something right. I'm so scared and kids, 625 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: I'll phone off my Yeah, welcome back. Want a nay 626 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor. More about this radio show at 627 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: Car doctors Show dot com. Also tune in I heart 628 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: iTunes dot com. Good places for podcasting, keeping my wheels. 629 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: Have a Facebook page, run a Nating in the Car 630 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: Doctor if you want to get out there. We've been 631 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: posting videos. Haven't done any, didn't do any this week. 632 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: We were very busy in the shop this week. I 633 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: had a bunch of crazy things going on. Some uh. 634 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: I'll tell you a real quick story and then I 635 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: want to do this piece of email. So we had 636 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: a a two thousand seven Dodge Caravan that came in 637 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: and it's a handicap vehicle. The gentleman that's as handicap 638 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: is in a wheelchair, and we had a change the 639 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: battery and just give it the once overlook it over. 640 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: The driver's side rear shock is broken and it's a big, 641 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: beefy shock, big heavy shock. I never realized how big 642 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: these shocks really were. It took a really hard look 643 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: at them, and it's probably where a normal shock is 644 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: maybe three inches in diameter, These shocks are at least 645 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: eight nine inches in diameter. They're huge. They're two and 646 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: a half three times the size of a regular shock absorber. So, 647 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, in talking to Chrysler, my parts guy goes, yeah, 648 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: that's probably a handicapped vehicle. I said, yeah, did you 649 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: know that? And he said, well, because they usually put 650 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: those that option in the handicap vehicles because that's their 651 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: load leveling shock. It it adjusts for the extra weight 652 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: because they put you know, slide out ramps and special 653 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: chairs and things like that for for handicap. So yeah, okay, 654 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: so I need one of those that actually broke the 655 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: bottom strap. How much you think a pair of load 656 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: leveling shocks are? And this is why, This is exactly 657 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: why when the independent after market gets pushed out by 658 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: technolog aology and there aren't enough repair shops left, this 659 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: is exactly why the motoring public is going to be 660 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: in real trouble. How much do you think two rear 661 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: shocks are for a two thousand seven Chrysler minivan load 662 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,479 Speaker 1: leveling option? Well, typical shocks are you know anywhere forty 663 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 1: bucks apiece five hundred and sixty seven dollars a piece, 664 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: eleven hundred dollars for two shock absorbers and they're not 665 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: even in the car yet. So when you think about 666 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: how this this change, it was a great segue, great 667 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: way to end this hour. When you think about the 668 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: change of of of how we're watching this industry go away, 669 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: think about how it's gonna affect you in your pocketbook 670 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: and where you're gonna get the car fixed. I'm ronning 671 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're placeless. 672 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: See you