WEBVTT - Redemption in Her Corner

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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. These are our

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<v Speaker 2>stories done done, Yay, that's messed up.

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<v Speaker 3>An sview podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Liza Trigger and I'm Kara Klank And every week

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<v Speaker 1>it's SVEW episode recaps, it's true crime deep dives, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's interviews with people that are on the show. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it is but then at up top, we just

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<v Speaker 1>like to chit chat about what's going on in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>life and the pursuit of happiness.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was so scared about my new laptop, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I just have so many fears and every time

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<v Speaker 2>anything happens, I so I didn't use it for I

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<v Speaker 2>would say days. I just listened to music because I've

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<v Speaker 2>been reading. So I finished all the books. I bought

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<v Speaker 2>a new one today by the same author. I was

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<v Speaker 2>sobbing on a bench this weekend. Sobbing on a bench.

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<v Speaker 2>This book made me cry. But anyways, but I got

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<v Speaker 2>back into the laptop and I didn't realize how poorly

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<v Speaker 2>I had been living. Like you know, when you split

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<v Speaker 2>the like Google Chrome half page, half page.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to do it two to three times. It

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't just do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so like the fact that it just does it

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<v Speaker 2>is like wait, what like the clickity clacks feel good?

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<v Speaker 3>Like everything is just kind of actually, yeah, it's been nice.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been nice today. I love a new laptop. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like they just run.

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<v Speaker 1>They run so well for the first like few months

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<v Speaker 1>you get one, and then you know, it all starts

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<v Speaker 1>going downhill. But we did last week on the pod

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<v Speaker 1>this guy who had you know, donated a sperm and

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<v Speaker 1>had like a billion kids or whatever, And we did

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<v Speaker 1>have a listener write us. I will not identify them,

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<v Speaker 1>but they did say that they used to date this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Him and his wife broke up a

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago. They had one kid together and they

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<v Speaker 1>broke up and she never got over the the wife

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<v Speaker 1>never got over the donor of it all. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>like being with somebody, being with somebody who's like secretly

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<v Speaker 1>the dad of like seventy five kids, that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's stressful. I don't know if I could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if true love could overcome that. Casey,

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<v Speaker 1>Casey's making a face like a yikes. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>not that I'm saying men shouldn't donate sperm. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's a good cause people need sperm, but dang,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know most people I know that have No,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>I have I know people who have gotten sperm from

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<v Speaker 1>people they know and from strangers, so from like a

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<v Speaker 1>from banks. So I don't fucking know what I would

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<v Speaker 1>do if I met a guy that was like the

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<v Speaker 1>love of my life and was like, guess what, I

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<v Speaker 1>have seventy five kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I would rather someone have seventy five kids they don't

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<v Speaker 2>know than one kid.

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<v Speaker 3>They do know.

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<v Speaker 1>You would never date someone with a kid, No, never,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that about me? I feel like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I thought that if it was like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you would if it was like a thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old.

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<v Speaker 3>That was cool or something. No, we've talked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, why would I Well, because if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>good I would want you to be a good parent,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I wouldn't. Then I I don't want the

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<v Speaker 2>kid in my house, you know what I mean. But

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<v Speaker 2>then if you're a deadbeat, that's like a very unattractive quality. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I would never be able to date a

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<v Speaker 2>parent because you're either involved with your kid, which is

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<v Speaker 2>not a life I have never not involved with your kid,

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<v Speaker 2>which means we're which is the most unattractive thing you

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<v Speaker 2>can I can imagine. I don't want children, so I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be with someone who also doesn't want children.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that makes sense to me, right, like sense? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't want it, Like if someone has a

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<v Speaker 2>aseec to me like that's hot, or if they donated

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of sperm and don't care, like that makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense to me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you would be a perfect match for this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>probably although he wanted kids, I guess because he did

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<v Speaker 1>have one of his own children.

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<v Speaker 3>But the seventy five kids he doesn't know, not a

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<v Speaker 3>problem for you. No, no, yeah, doesn't bother me. No, no, me.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither doesn't bother me. And generated that's a lot of spur.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot, you know, like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are picking you. I feel like they need to retire

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<v Speaker 1>your number at some point, you know, which I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they do do, but not before seventy five kids are born.

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<v Speaker 1>And also there's no there's no it's like police departments.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no jurisdiction across the different states, so they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to different places.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm also shout out Asie Giean his UH number

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen was retired, the White Sox manager of the World

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<v Speaker 2>Series winning team, and they like they told it to

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<v Speaker 2>him on air and he cried. And the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>he said was where's my wife? Oh so cute, that's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>And his wife used to get her pussy waxed at

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<v Speaker 2>the salon I worked at as an exceptionist.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything comes full circle. Everyone is connected. This world is

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<v Speaker 1>a series of interconnected people.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>And today the Hudson Williams Peloton ad came out, like

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<v Speaker 2>can you even believe it?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened and behind the scenes and immediately, well they

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<v Speaker 2>like teased the video yesterday and it's just like hot

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<v Speaker 2>and incredible. I mean, Peloton whatever, thirsty bitches and gay

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<v Speaker 2>dudes are working at Peloton and objectifying the men throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the years.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you. Yeah, it's been a joy. The nude maloney.

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<v Speaker 1>And now what is Hudson doing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in a little he's truly like dancing working out

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<v Speaker 2>looking like come fuck me and I knew the choreographer

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be cool, and then it's a woman director.

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<v Speaker 3>I just like really love everything that they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think like every choice they're doing is perfect, and

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<v Speaker 2>every little commercial and everything they do is also a

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<v Speaker 2>nod to this, like to the Long Game book. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of crazy, like it are so much meta within

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<v Speaker 2>the ads. I feel it's like it's we're losing our minds,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is real.

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<v Speaker 3>But he looks hot, he's on the treadmill.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just like working out in this room and doing

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<v Speaker 2>really cool choreo and dancing in a fun outfit, and

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<v Speaker 2>his absolutely insane. Like the second season, they're gonna look insane,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>They insane the first season.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know, but I don't know if you've

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<v Speaker 2>been seeing them, but it's it's pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>The bods.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, a lot of people were messaging what are they

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<v Speaker 1>mad at about?

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<v Speaker 3>Polly did the community because we have cool listeners, you

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<v Speaker 3>just actually get a lot of pushback on the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, some people were just like people can be cool

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<v Speaker 1>in Polly and not be dating and leaving their wives

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<v Speaker 1>at home and doing all that. But it was truly

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<v Speaker 1>the definition your life at home to go hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with someone else. It was the Shane and Ilia look

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<v Speaker 1>alike contests that those two guys are dating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's like the best the universe keeps expanding, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these lookalike contests are so funny to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>like when they show up, the people that are the

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<v Speaker 1>lookalike subject show up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like you know, so they obviously like made

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<v Speaker 2>out hardcore and then at the contest and that was hot.

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<v Speaker 2>But then they did an interview about their date and

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<v Speaker 2>one of their kind of dorks they went on an

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<v Speaker 2>eight hour date, and one of them was like, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we ended up harmonizing, and the other one

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I thought we weren't gonna say anything about that.

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<v Speaker 3>So like it's really cute. They're like sang together, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, and the other ones like, don't say that.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, they were so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they went to a women's hockey game and

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<v Speaker 2>then the actress who placed Vetlana was there and they

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<v Speaker 2>wore the jerseys and like took photos with her, and

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<v Speaker 2>so like everyone's just kind of pumped for everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the fandom is really nice. I mean, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>there's like some psychopaths hit it in the corners. The

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<v Speaker 3>girl that the girl.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a girl who was making such good trailers and

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<v Speaker 2>edits of heated rivalry that HBO hired her and now

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<v Speaker 2>she's an official trailer maker and does all their stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>The Dream The Dream, and we followed each other recently,

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<v Speaker 3>so no big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyday, I would say, you're probably in the upper echelon

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<v Speaker 1>of the fandom.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, now everyone's in the fandom.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you saw my story or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think I'm going to do it more this year.

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<v Speaker 3>But I read a book on my fire escape. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>that's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fun. I put a blanket out, I sat,

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<v Speaker 2>I wore a hat. I need some block for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people commented, and yeah, I was unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>up till five.

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<v Speaker 3>In the morning. I've been reading all day, all night.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't slept.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been researching since seven in the morning for our podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm holding on by a thread. And I and

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<v Speaker 2>then I had an hour between finishing research and us podcasting,

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<v Speaker 2>and I rushed to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Barnes and Noble and bought another gay book. To buy

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<v Speaker 3>another book. I need another book. I'm ready for more.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready for more. I was reading it like I

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I don't know what's happening. But this one

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<v Speaker 2>was extra go and it's New York. I'm on his

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<v Speaker 2>hair on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a fire escape hanging. Oh my gosh, I

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<v Speaker 1>love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it could be escape, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I have another person. Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little tough to get. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to think if i'd feel safe with two people

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<v Speaker 3>being there, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, yeah, it would usually just be two of us,

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<v Speaker 1>Max on my sisters, but I never had one on

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<v Speaker 1>my own apartment.

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<v Speaker 3>But I liked other people's.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, what's going on with Rosie's hair like ponytail situation?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>So at her first game, where by the way, she

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<v Speaker 1>scored two runs, she that was mostly she no, she

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<v Speaker 1>did well, she did really well. Like the parents were like,

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<v Speaker 1>she's never played before, and I was like, no, she's

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<v Speaker 1>never played, and they were like, she's doing good. So

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<v Speaker 1>but I for a little while, she let me put

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<v Speaker 1>her hair into the hole of the hat, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge, a huge, but then she took it down

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<v Speaker 1>and the co which I approached the coach and said

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you feel like Rosie needs to put

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<v Speaker 1>her hair up, you can absolutely tell her that. She

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<v Speaker 1>won't take it for me, but she'll take it from you.

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes, yeah, I think I'm gonna tell her

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<v Speaker 1>for safety and I go, yeah, thanks. So we got

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<v Speaker 1>to work on it for next game.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so you know, my soul cycle classes are popular,

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<v Speaker 2>so to fit more people, she'll like the teacher will

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<v Speaker 2>be off the bike and let others, like people be

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<v Speaker 2>on the podium that are really good to fit more

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<v Speaker 2>people in.

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<v Speaker 3>And the last podium girl was hair down the whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So after class I did approach her and I goes, so,

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<v Speaker 2>what are we doing hair?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, how are you doing it? Hair down?

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<v Speaker 2>And she goes, I fucking love it. She goes, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel so cool, like she likes so whip better, like

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<v Speaker 2>she felt awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I wonder if she's a dancer because my

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<v Speaker 1>friend I just talked to my friend about this, who

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<v Speaker 1>I work out with all the time, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you have your hair down? Like it really

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<v Speaker 1>is so freaky to me, Like I cannot have sweaty

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<v Speaker 1>hair on the back of my neck.

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<v Speaker 3>She goes, it's like a dance thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like dancing, like when you're a dancer, because she's

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<v Speaker 1>a big dancer, and she's like it's just a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the like the hairography is like part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Like so maybe they've just trained themselves. It's not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just went to the gym this morning

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<v Speaker 1>and it was up as high as it could go

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<v Speaker 1>on the top of my head, like I can't, I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot have it back down there. But both my children

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<v Speaker 1>just got haircuts, so we've been we've been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>weed wax that hair away.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you already sign up for summer camp? What's happening

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<v Speaker 3>with that? Yes, they're going to camps. I'm up. I

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<v Speaker 3>was up.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to do the full gauntlet that I did,

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<v Speaker 1>like where the Taylor Swift Zoo camp situation that I've

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<v Speaker 1>had to do before, but because I'm I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in la really, but I had to wake

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<v Speaker 1>up to get them into an East Coast summer camp

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<v Speaker 1>at like five in the morning because you know, their

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<v Speaker 1>registration is three hours ahead, so you know they're in.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to different camps, but like mostly just what

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<v Speaker 3>are the coast camps.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one in Connecticut that's a farm camp that they

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<v Speaker 1>did last year.

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<v Speaker 3>They loved that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing the farm camp again, and then they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks of this beach camp, which is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be great and the only problem is if it really

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<v Speaker 1>really rains, they just cancel the day and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be bad, but hopefully it just won't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And then then they're going to the Rosie's going to

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<v Speaker 1>the two weeks of the camp that I went to.

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<v Speaker 1>The overnight camp has a day camp, and she's doing

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<v Speaker 1>the two week session of that. Oscar doesn't know yet

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<v Speaker 1>that he's too young to go, so he's been signed

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<v Speaker 1>up for a different camp and does not know that

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<v Speaker 1>he will be separated from his sister for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>But we will ease into that as time goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's it. That's the camps. We're all set.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily the camp's in LA. It's terrible. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I want to blame Trump, but it's like all of

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<v Speaker 1>the rec center camps, Like the rec centers aren't getting

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<v Speaker 1>as much money as they used to. All the camps

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<v Speaker 1>that used to be really affordable for people in the

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<v Speaker 1>community are twice as much this year, three times as much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like really really tough, tough times. And I like

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<v Speaker 1>to blame Trump if I can, aka Jesus Christ himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, I'd like to I'd like to reach out to

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<v Speaker 2>the audience. Listen, So you know I bought all these

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<v Speaker 2>nice sheets. I'm living a charmed life. I love the sheets.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't no matter how.

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<v Speaker 2>Much do you spend and you tie the corners? Why

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<v Speaker 2>is the comforter inside the duvet?

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<v Speaker 3>Like the duvet? Answer?

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<v Speaker 2>Why does it untie? And why is it moving around

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<v Speaker 2>within it? What is the solution?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck? And shout out to the people that

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<v Speaker 2>went to the moon. But anyways, ah, just.

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<v Speaker 3>Quick shout out to the people who went to the

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<v Speaker 3>moon duvet covers? Where are we with that? Listen?

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<v Speaker 2>I woke up at a in the morning screaming. I

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<v Speaker 2>started creating, scream crying, going why can't I figure it?

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<v Speaker 3>Like it took I was? I just? Am I sleeping? Crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I kicking too much? Like? How is it untied?

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<v Speaker 3>And then sometimes it's it's still tied and yet moving

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't understand. I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I think all it takes is one corner coming undone

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole thing gets fucked up. But it's really crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to figure out we need to get those

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<v Speaker 1>astronauts back down from the moon and figure out more

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<v Speaker 1>duvet technology. Maybe by technology, I don't know, a magnet

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<v Speaker 1>could smack you in the face in the night if

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<v Speaker 1>you're thrashing. But my duvet ties inside, and I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>I have like a nice west elm or a or

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<v Speaker 1>a parachute or something cover. The ties inside just ripped

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<v Speaker 1>out one time, just ripped out when I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to tie them.

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<v Speaker 3>So now my comforters just loosey goosey in there. I

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<v Speaker 3>need to get a new duvet. But yeah, the tie system,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>But then some people are just like I understand, being

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<v Speaker 2>like naked, like just just raw dogging the comforter.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think you'd have to have your own washer

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<v Speaker 3>and dryer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they make every duvet like bright bright white,

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<v Speaker 1>like they don't really ever come in like patterns that

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<v Speaker 1>would make more sense to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I do know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I mean, I think I've been thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>this a lot. The dude, Yeah, we need to get

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<v Speaker 1>we need to. We need to step it up on

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<v Speaker 1>the Douvet technology.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like I'm spending hundreds and I'm having the

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<v Speaker 2>problems of peasants, Like I don't want that. Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like I don't like that. Why am I still

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<v Speaker 2>having Ikia problems with my west SLM sheets with.

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<v Speaker 1>Your Champagne dream Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's what I'm not understanding. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's annoying as fuck. I took Rosie and her for

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<v Speaker 1>best friends, four boys to a birthday for her birthday

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<v Speaker 1>last weekend, I took them to a jump place and

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<v Speaker 1>them back to our house for chaos and pizza and

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<v Speaker 1>a sleep under if you will, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this already where people leave early.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of male energy in there.

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<v Speaker 1>She was so happy, She was so happy to just

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<v Speaker 1>be surrounded by boys and have like you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar had a little friend there who.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a girl, and she was like, this is a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt bad for her. I was like, is she

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be okay?

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<v Speaker 1>But the Friday night before I had this fucking sleepover,

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<v Speaker 1>I got extremely drunk, and because I did, my the

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<v Speaker 1>co host of my other podcast, Jackie, she does this

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<v Speaker 1>thing every Friday where she's live streams with this guy Holden,

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<v Speaker 1>and they do shots and they get really fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>They smoke weed.

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<v Speaker 1>They just get fucked up and people watch them and

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<v Speaker 1>like send them money. It's like a twitch thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't do it, and so I've done it before.

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<v Speaker 1>I did it in December, and I had a great time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't I like, I got drunk, but not

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<v Speaker 1>too crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't say this time.

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking just didn't eat anything and thought that we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to somehow eat in the middle, even though

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<v Speaker 1>we usually always.

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<v Speaker 3>The only other time I did it, we ate at

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<v Speaker 3>the end.

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<v Speaker 1>So I only lasted three and a half hours and

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<v Speaker 1>then I had to tap out and I did throw up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have not thrown up from drinking in four years.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you were with me the last time I

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<v Speaker 1>threw up from drinking, and it really kind of made

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<v Speaker 1>us sleep under with five kids a little bit more challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it was it was the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was the day after, and I had to

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<v Speaker 1>go to my friend's birthday party after the stream, so

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<v Speaker 1>I threw up. I took a thirty minute power nap,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I woke up and I felt great, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, I'm good, and I went

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<v Speaker 1>to my friend's birthday. I didn't drink anything. I only

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<v Speaker 1>had water at the birthday. But I was like, I'm fine,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine. And then when I woke up, my body

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you're not fine. Actually, we gave you a

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<v Speaker 1>two hour reprieve to go to your friend's birthday, and

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<v Speaker 1>now you're actually not fine.

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<v Speaker 3>You actually feel terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was and then straight into first grade or Thunderdome.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty pretty well weekend for me. Are goodie

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<v Speaker 1>bags still a thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Or No? They are, but I don't really do them.

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<v Speaker 1>And this wasn't like this wasn't really like we weren't

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<v Speaker 1>really calling it a birthday party. She already had a

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<v Speaker 1>birthday party North Carolina, like we were calling it just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like it was like pizza, ice cream, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we didn't really I didn't decorate for it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she didn't really care about any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we didn't do goodie bags. But the people do

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<v Speaker 1>do them, and they're mostly filled with plastic junk that

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<v Speaker 1>you throw away as soon as you get home, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the kids. They with them for like two hours,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like a lot of landfill shit. When she

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<v Speaker 1>had a birthday a few years ago, I got the

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<v Speaker 1>kids their own little mini clipboards, and I printed out

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<v Speaker 1>coloring sheets and gave them like colored past with them,

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<v Speaker 1>so that it felt like more of a thing they

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<v Speaker 1>could like use at home, like if they're on the couch,

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<v Speaker 1>they can like draw or write or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But I haven't really done a goodie bag in a

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<v Speaker 3>hot minute. How did Jared do flying across country? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>He killed it. He killed it. He remembered everything. He

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<v Speaker 3>got them out there.

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<v Speaker 1>He said they had like one little melt down at

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<v Speaker 1>the airport, but everything was fine.

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<v Speaker 3>He did it. Yeah, and you're surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't surprised. I thought he'll get them across, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fine on the plane. I just thought he'll forget

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of shit that I needed him to bring.

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<v Speaker 3>But he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I sat with the kids the whole ride home,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were a dream. Oscar slept for like two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>They just watched movies.

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<v Speaker 3>We barely. It was amazing. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>But Rosie had that thing happen where you open your

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<v Speaker 1>water bottle on the plane and it just spouted all

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<v Speaker 1>over her and she did freak out. It was it

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<v Speaker 1>was a never ending stream, like it really kept going.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh wait, also, did you see this? It's a

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<v Speaker 2>mix of all my interests. They saved like a sea

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<v Speaker 2>and they named him Shane Hollander. And so it's like

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<v Speaker 2>this baby seal named Shane Hollander.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, that's so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait. Have I told you that we have a listener

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<v Speaker 1>that has goats that they named Kara and Lisa.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the goats had one of the goats had

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<v Speaker 1>babies and they named them Rosie and Oscar.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, but like I remember being named after like

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<v Speaker 2>a goat being named after me. But this was a

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<v Speaker 2>few years ago, and I get updates of the goat.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that there was a new set of

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<v Speaker 2>goats or if this original goat person had another goat

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<v Speaker 2>and that's Kara, or is this a new am?

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<v Speaker 3>I am? I? Are there two separate Are there two

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<v Speaker 3>separate visa goats? I don't know? Like, what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 3>We have a listener? Hold on, let me look it up.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a listener who has goats and named them

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Lisa, and then one of them had babies. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it was Lisa that had the babies, who knows, and

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<v Speaker 1>name them Rosy and Oscar. And then I showed my

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<v Speaker 1>kids and they were like freaking out because they were

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<v Speaker 1>so upseested.

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<v Speaker 3>They thought that was.

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<v Speaker 2>The Oh my god, wait now that we're not okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you grabbed your phone and then I remembered my phone.

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<v Speaker 3>I texted my nephews. I'm like, are you guys nervous

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<v Speaker 3>about the draft?

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<v Speaker 2>And they wrote NFL and I go military and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like lol. And then we were kind of just

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<v Speaker 2>and we were just kind of making jokes about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Liked that that's so funny. I mean, on set of texts,

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<v Speaker 3>do we think that it's gonna be?

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<v Speaker 1>They just this administration feels too stupid if they do

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<v Speaker 1>instate the draft to like weed out people lying. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if people lie and say they have problems and they

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<v Speaker 1>can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's concentration camps. What are you talking about. They'll

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<v Speaker 2>take everybody, They'll drag you out of the streets. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't care. We're run by private prison complex. Like, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you talking about? I know mine, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>leave the country I hope. So, wait, did we already

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<v Speaker 2>lose our minds of a Selka's going back to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hours April seventeenth?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait? How long did they go off? Twenty four hours?

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<v Speaker 3>Six years? Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>And now they're about six years. Yeah, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>a late night spot. I'm gonna go walk home. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get the custom new sweatshirt they just put out

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<v Speaker 2>to celebrate, and I'm gonna live my life. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>change my whole social life. My whole life's about to change.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing. That's amazing. It's weird. I guess where I live.

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<v Speaker 1>I live. Where I lived, there was French Roast and

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<v Speaker 1>that was the only place that was like truly twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Four hours awesome. That was awesome. Yeah, that's an awesome place.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Bagel Pub. Now I think it's gone. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been gone for a while. It's been going for damn. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>unless I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>French Roosts on the Upper West.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's great to have a twenty four hour like

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<v Speaker 1>actual place with normal.

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<v Speaker 3>Like not bodega food that you can eat, you know. Agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, remember I said something crazy happened at my show

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<v Speaker 2>with the speakers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, where somebody was like just getting like making candy

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<v Speaker 1>crush noises.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I don't know if you guys remember, but

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<v Speaker 2>last week I was talking about how I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>a show at Union Hall and like through the speakers loudly,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a candy crush game when you could

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<v Speaker 2>hear the pit bam, pit bam, but chow and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like crazy and people didn't know it was a

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<v Speaker 2>bit and I'm like, I made it funny and whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>but like the noises were coming. I couldn't speak into

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<v Speaker 2>the mic. It was pandemonium. They turned it all off.

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<v Speaker 2>Then when they turned it back on, an audio book

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<v Speaker 2>of World War II was playing and it was like

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<v Speaker 2>loud and it was just like we couldn't figure out

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<v Speaker 2>where the noises were coming from. Everyone at Union Hall

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 2>is kind of losing their mind figuring it out. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to like finish my set, you know whatever. So

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<v Speaker 2>I went I had a show there last night, and

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<v Speaker 2>I asked, I was like, did you guys ever find

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<v Speaker 2>out what happened? And basically, one of the dudes in

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<v Speaker 2>the kitchen accidentally connected his bluetooth and he was watching

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<v Speaker 2>a documentary about World War Two. And I think he

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<v Speaker 2>took a little break to play game and then.

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<v Speaker 3>Went back to the dock. But like he wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>able to hear the dock if the dock was going

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<v Speaker 3>through the speaker.

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<v Speaker 1>So like the thing is like for it to be

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<v Speaker 1>on for like a few seconds and be like, why

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<v Speaker 1>can't I hear this?

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<v Speaker 3>You'd turn it off or something, but it was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's not good at technology. That's why I like

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<v Speaker 2>all the girls telling me yesterday, she goes was confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't really know what he's doing, Like I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>No one even understands how he did it. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was just a dude in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, they had to make their speaker undiscoverable because

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise anybody could just go boop into the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so wild, it's so funny. But a kitchen guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I love a kitchen guy trying to find out more

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<v Speaker 3>about World War two. I love that. I do love that. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I really loved reading.

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<v Speaker 2>We could be so good and then like you should

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<v Speaker 2>be so lucky these cats Sebastian books, because they're one

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<v Speaker 2>is set in nineteen fifty eight fifty nine, and the

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<v Speaker 2>others set in nineteen sixty and it like is real

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<v Speaker 2>New York stuff and I really liked it. And it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they talk about real articles and real shit

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<v Speaker 2>that was happening, and I'm just, I don't know, really

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<v Speaker 2>into it. You know, when I was crying on the bench,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is what I bet people that like

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<v Speaker 2>make stuff want, you know, Yeah, for people to like

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<v Speaker 2>really react to something.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, Well, that's totally all right. Yeah, let's get started.

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<v Speaker 2>We are doing Redemption in Her Corner Season twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>episode thirteen, February sixth, twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't know the world was going to collapse.

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<v Speaker 2>Fully, we knew there were issues obviously, And the episode

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<v Speaker 2>starts very ahead of it time because listen to this,

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<v Speaker 2>so keep this in your mind. February sixth, twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>It starts by Benson and Barbara are facetiming on her laptop.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fact that they're even face timing, like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't feel like we were like really doing

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<v Speaker 2>that on our laptops even right, Like I guess people skyped,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it's so ominous to me. It's interesting

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<v Speaker 3>because she's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It before video calls us as prevalent, like I know

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>people do much more prevalent now, but like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>ominous just knowing everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But so she makes fun of his growing beard. He's

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<v Speaker 2>in Iowa, trying to blend in he's there because of

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:41.880
<v Speaker 2>election fraud, and he says he's living in a dystopian nightmare.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was, but we still had no idea like

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<v Speaker 2>how much worse it's gotten, Like I mean, for Barbara

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<v Speaker 2>in February twenty twenty to say dystopian nightmare, which makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense because he was in office, but still.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why that's crazy yep, where we talk about dystopia

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<v Speaker 1>so much now.

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<v Speaker 2>And he asks how Benson is. He's heard about Tucker.

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<v Speaker 2>So this Tucker has taken his own life. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a nightmare. So her eyes instantly turned wet. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>rough and this is all tragic. She's at a loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Time is just flying by. They're having a beautiful moment.

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<v Speaker 2>He said he will be back after the primary, and

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<v Speaker 2>when he's back, he wants to do dinner on him, obviously, Barbara.

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<v Speaker 2>He then says happy birthday, and he's early, but he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be the first.

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<v Speaker 3>So sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>She closes the laptop she's thinking. She walks out to

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<v Speaker 2>the center area and tells Finn and Rowlins that Barba

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<v Speaker 2>says hi, and she's like she's kind of like regular

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 2>working girl, like kind of putting tupperware in her big bag,

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 2>like I like, Kat isn't there. Because Finn let her

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>go warm up for her boxing match, and then he's like,

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 2>remember we're all going.

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 3>She obviously forgot. She's in mourning. Tucker is dead.

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<v Speaker 2>She has an appointment, she says, and Noah has rehearsal

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<v Speaker 2>she's clearly lying and runs off, and.

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:03.719
<v Speaker 1>There's the squad, like ever literally gone to support another

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>member of the squad doing something that they do.

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<v Speaker 3>In their free time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I don't know if it's before after that,

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I would say like the baptisms or weddings or like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe adoption. No, they were not the adoption, but I

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 2>think stuff like that, Like, but those are all later seasons.

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Early season, there's a Thanksgiving? Does Kragan host?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like they socialize sometime. I'm probably got

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<v Speaker 1>a little party, but like there's never like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Rollins has a fun hobby she does and we can

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>all go watch her do it, or like let's all

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>go see Finn try stand up comedy.

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, what are what are you?

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they're gonna go to the under Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to the underground gambling ring.

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Like what is Rollins doing? I know? But it's like

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<v Speaker 3>Bells are Jeffrey.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that nobody video game convention and Finn likes

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>video game but they seems like they all do, but.

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Nobody ever went to go cheer Casey Novak go on

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 1>when her team Sex Crimes was playing soft ball.

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe but we don't. We don't know that You're right.

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 2>This is cute. I don't know where she finds the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but we arrive at this boxing gym and.

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<v Speaker 3>Cat arrives as well. It's us and Cat the figurative

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:18.439
<v Speaker 3>we we're together. Oh but before that, Fin reassures like

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Rollins looks worried, and Finn's like, listen, she needs time.

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 3>It'll be okay.

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Not everyone eats their feelings with like destroying their own

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 2>life slowly. So she sorry, you don't get that, Cat,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean l.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So Cat arrives, are women in the ring and a

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>woman coach, and then Cat trash talks the woman she's

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna fight and they have a fun back and forth,

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 2>and then she asks if Romeo's around, and they say

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<v Speaker 2>Romeo with an accent, and I'm not doing it. So

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 2>his name's Romeo. They say Romeo, but they say Romeo.

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Final say Romeo. It's like Romeo Romeo around. It doesn't

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 2>even come natural. I'm saying Romeo, so Romeo, Oh, go

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 2>say it, yeah, Romeo around. I hate that saying. I

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>don't want to say that either. Now whatever, she checks

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 2>if the coaches in and he's in the office, and

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Kat goes off to the office, but his door's locked,

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 2>which seems unusual because she seems confused by it and knock, knock.

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 2>It takes a while to open. I would say ten

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 2>to fifteen seconds, and then a young girl, Cammy, walks out,

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 2>like pretty young, and he looks suspicious as fuck. He's

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 2>like touching his dick over his pants and he says

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 2>he popped. He says he popped in her left shoulder,

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 2>which is like such a wild lie to hop to

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 2>like it could have been like, uh, she had a

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 2>rough day or was giving her an inspirat like to

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 2>pop the shoulder back in, but whatever.

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but for none of the You wouldn't have to.

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Lock the door to pop the shoulder in, and we

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>would have heard a scream no, like when we've heard that.

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 3>That's what I would think. Kat's suspicious.

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Vala is gonna be in your corner, he tells her,

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<v Speaker 2>which bothers her, like, so that's gonna be a different coach.

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 2>And she wanted this guy, and he's like, I have

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 2>to be with Esperanza. I mean she's only nineteen, and

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 2>he goes, you'll be fine, and she goes, that's all

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I get from my pre fight pep talk like what

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 2>the fuck? And he's like right, fine and begrudgingly gives

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 2>her some words. He says, Esperanza has a left we cook,

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 2>so like do an overhead right and make it hard

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 2>to counter? How do you coach both girls that are

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 2>fighting each other? Like that's crazy?

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you can't do Yeah, I mean you can do

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that in a random gym, but then like not if

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>there's like a competition element, that's what I don't know.

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 2>You can't do that. So Yeah, goes to Cammy asked

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 2>about her shoulder. She seems like she doesn't know what

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the fuck she's talking about. So locked door, weird shoulder,

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>what's happening? Cammy goes where Cammy's I like Cammy, she

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 2>goes SVU, relax, I'm not an after school special, okayqut trying.

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 3>To stir up trouble. She walks off.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a Golden Gloves qualifying match, KREESI is

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<v Speaker 2>there in a full suit.

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 3>You couldn't even hot sin your tie, like I don't.

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why the full soup rollin's messy bond

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 2>perfect like always fin is there. So then they asked,

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 2>who's fighting a man? An old man turns around the

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>dad and goes, that's my daughter, and another girl is like, yeah,

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Cat's just a stepping stone for us, speranza, and he's

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 2>acting out uppercuts like he's at a tiebout class, and

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 2>then like so, then they call Cat the.

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Brute from be Root.

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I like that, and there's cheers and jeers, and then

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 2>the ref has a silver eye patch and I don't

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 2>mean like a cloth one, and it's the color silver.

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean a hard metal, silver, metal eye patch that

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 2>looks like artistic and melting over his eye, and he

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 2>has a.

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>B I don't even think I noticed that. I think

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I looked away for a second. Oh guy casting.

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 2>So people are definitely cheering louder for Cat's opponent, and

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 2>the boxing happens, and then a money exchange happens between

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 2>fedora guy and a sweatsuit guy. The squad cheers on Cat,

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 2>and I can't tell who's who they're fighting. They're wearing helmets.

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 2>It's red versus blue, and I truly cannot tell the

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 2>whole time. So but no Kat gets knocked the fuck out.

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 2>She's struggling down there.

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 3>The teen did beat her and yeah, so that sucks

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 3>for her credits.

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 2>So now we're back at work. Everyone's hungover as fuck.

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 2>I love this and they're like, damn, she can fight,

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 2>but she can sure drink. Like I just love it.

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, but you did lose, And then I'm like,

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 2>wait did she win? No, I'm wrong, Like I couldn't tell,

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 2>but she lost. She got knocked out and they all

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 2>got fucking wasted, and she goes to talk to the

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 2>captain who is crying at her desk. So so then

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Benson goes, hey, I heard the you impressed the squad

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 2>and she goes no, and then Benson goes, ouch, okay.

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 2>So then she's like, did you start seeing predators everywhere

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 2>when you started working? And she goes, yeah, it takes

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 2>a little bit to like get used to what's up,

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 2>but like, also there are predators everywhere, so like who knows?

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>And so she fills her in on the main trainer

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>and the young girl rushing out he was tying his

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>sweatpants and the shoulder thing.

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 3>It kept her up all night.

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Benson encourages her to trust her gut, so Cat and

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Benson goes to talk to Cammi and she loves him.

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 2>She's like, that's the best coach, Like I give him

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:08.719
<v Speaker 2>credit for all the good things in my life. And

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 2>then a grandma comes in and they call her missus Vegas.

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 2>And then I'm like, is it just her mom? And

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I made up the grandma thing, like I don't.

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 3>Know she called she called her grandma? Yeah.

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 2>So then so then she tells them he is a

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 2>good guy, like a father figure. He drives her home

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 2>when they train late, and she's always so tired and

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 2>goes straight to bed. And then she talks about the shoulder,

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 2>and then dramatic music plays.

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>And she but the grandma doesn't know anything about the shoulder.

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>She's like, what the fuck?

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Right now, that's what That's what I said by saying

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 2>dramatic music plays? Ah yeah, did did nobody understand that?

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like, at this point, everything is telling us the

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>shoulder is bullshit.

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 2>No, the grandma says she has one hundred push ups

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 2>every morning, so I would say the opposite. And then

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 2>they asked Missus Vega to talk to Cammy about Romeo

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 2>and her shoulders and hands over her business card.

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 3>They're walking outside.

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.240
<v Speaker 2>I really love this shot, Like the buildings look super tall,

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.760
<v Speaker 2>So they're surrounded by three tall apartment buildings and lights

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 2>coming in from like where they're walking towards, and it

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:22.399
<v Speaker 2>looks really cool. So Kat's like, all right, like let's

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 2>go arrest him. She's like, okay, slow the fuck down,

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 2>now we just dig deeper. Okay, Like who else can

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 2>we talk to? So they go talk to a girl

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>at the laundry and it's Esperanza and she says, oh,

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>he touches me, but as a coach, like never in

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 2>a creepy way. Don't even worry about it. She's like,

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 2>I know you're SVU, but it's just not like that.

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Cammy is his favorite. She admits he has his favorites,

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 2>but she thinks full trainer, not PERV. She says, if

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 2>I notice anything, I will hit you up, like I

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 2>want to protect all the girls too. She says, your

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>eyes looking better, and she's and then Kat responds lucky

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>punch a little trash shop, and Esperanza goes, nope, you know,

0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Romeo actually told me you would come around with that

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 2>big right, and you dropped your guard and he tells

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 2>her no mercy whereas it exact words. Yeah, so damn

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 2>he told Kat to throw the right and told her

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 2>it was coming and set cat up. Bullshit, Yeah, and

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>like was that a message? So they go back to

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 2>the office and Caresy is being so creasy. He has

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 2>supperware and his mom made ribolita soup. And usually, you know,

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Kara researches things she doesn't understand in the show, and

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 2>I never do. But I did look up the soup.

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.240
<v Speaker 2>I did look up the soup. It's a Tuscan soup.

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 2>It's a there's bread and veggies in it, so you

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 2>usually make it with leftover minestrone soup and then you

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 2>put stale bread in it to thicken it.

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 3>It's like an.

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Old like classic like peasant soup. Yeah, because it's like

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:52.720
<v Speaker 1>all your leftovers. Yeah. So and he's like, take the soup.

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 3>My mom made it.

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, because Benson tries not to take it, and

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like you not, bitch, like you think you're not

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna be well, you're gonna say no to a foreign

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 2>woman soup, Like I don't understand what, Like, just take.

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>It homemade Italian super come on, just take it. She

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want it, you know, she's too tough. She doesn't

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 1>want to accept any like that. Nothing's wrong. You know,

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>but she takes it.

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:15.320
<v Speaker 2>She scoffs, but she takes it, so they need it,

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Like the close captioning needs to find better words than scoffs.

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 2>They use scoffs a lot, and that to me has

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 2>a negative connotation. And her scoff was like chiller, but

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 2>maybe stoff is more general and like I'm just reading

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:26.879
<v Speaker 2>into it.

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>No, you're right because when people say, like, oh, like

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 1>he scoffed at me when I asked him to do that, like,

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 1>it always is negative when you read it.

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like she was like touched annoyed a little, like

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:39.280
<v Speaker 2>she wasn't match, she wasn't scoffing.

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Like they need to find a new word. Yeah, like

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 3>what is word when you just go okay, like you know,

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 3>you just kind of do that, you know.

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well yeah, if you're a linguist, hit us up,

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:51.399
<v Speaker 2>Do the noise again, do the noise again?

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okay, he says it's his mother. Okay, we got that.

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully that got Wait wait, I'm looking up synonyms for scoff.

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Hold on, wait, nobody uses these words. Well.

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Scoff when you look it up is to laugh at

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 1>with contempt and derision. Yeah, but I think there is

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>another way that is not a scoff.

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 3>Maybe google what is scoff without negativity? What is a

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 3>positive scoff? A positive scoff? What is what is a

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 3>word for a friendly scoff? Okay, here we go a

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 3>chortal tackle.

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:39.879
<v Speaker 1>Somebody said chuff that feels like it's from another country,

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a titter. This is not a Reddit thread, so it's

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>not like this is linguist saying.

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:51.280
<v Speaker 2>One of the like big reviewers during Edinburgh for Comedy

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 2>is chortle like, yes, like you know you want a

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 2>good Chortal review.

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you definitely want to get caught.

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So what happens next after the soup, we're gonna

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>find that we're gonna get to the bottom of the scoff.

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 2>So the brainstorm session starts about the fighter. You know,

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 2>she's not just like any old fighter. Lots of ards

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 2>are discussing Cammy and missus Vega walk in uh oh,

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Benson talks to them. So Benson's like, okay, let's go

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 2>walk somewhere more private. But like Cammy's fucking pissed. She's

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 2>like Esperanza fucking grills me, Like that's why we're here,

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Like you need to get the truth for me, not

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 2>from some jealous lies and like they don't even make

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.760
<v Speaker 2>it to the rooms. She's that mad, and she turns

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 2>around and goes, actually, none of this is your business,

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:42.760
<v Speaker 2>but Romeo and I are in love. Dunt dunt dark music.

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Benson nods, it is we it is our business. It

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 2>is our business. So the detectives make eyes. It truly,

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 2>says Special Victims Unit, Like you couldn't have gone to

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 2>a place where it's not like that. It's more their business.

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, like get out of my diary bit.

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>She's like, you can't know that you are sixteen and

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:08.720
<v Speaker 1>this man is looks what thirty something oh older?

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 2>He looks like shit, sorry to the access, Sorry for

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 2>this man, but I didn't mean to insult you.

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>But like that like too, Yeah, this isn't like a

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 1>sixteen out of twenty.

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 2>This is us sixteen and forty four. Like he's had

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 2>like he's had like a foot surgery.

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, he's out of foot surgery. He's that he's

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 3>foot surgery or so.

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.919
<v Speaker 2>The Bama is so upset in shock, she's disgusted as fuck.

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 2>They've been sleeping together for two years. She's only sixteen,

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 2>which means rape, rape, rape, get him get him, and

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 2>she goes, whatever, I know what I want and missus

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Vegas like show her your texts too, dumb bitch. So

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 2>they go to pick Romeo up and Creasey is on

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 2>it and he's like, I'll get the warrants, I'll get

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 2>for the office, the phones, I'll get everything. So the

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 2>cops enter the gym to pick him up, but Esperanza's

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 2>already fighting him. She punches the shit out of him,

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 2>he falls, he hits her his head, Kat pulls her back.

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:06.439
<v Speaker 2>There's a giant crowd all around them. The ambulance drives by,

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 2>and now we're inside the ambulance with Romeo on the

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 2>stretcher and Finn is sitting with him and he's like, damn,

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:13.439
<v Speaker 2>some chick knocked me out.

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 3>Fuck I like that. Sorry. So then he asks why

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 3>the fight and he says it's all bullshit. He brings

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 3>up Cammy.

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Romeo laughs about them being in love, and then he's like, oh,

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 2>it's just a Mickey Mouse crush, like it's no big deal,

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, oh really. Finn's like, what about the

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 2>sex thing and the fucking He screams immediately she's lying.

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 2>He says, Kat set me up. The EMT says, this

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 2>is my ambulance and you all need to shut the

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 2>fuck up, and puts oxygen on the man. So they

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:42.800
<v Speaker 2>bring Esperanza into the precinct and she says, you weren't

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 2>doing anything, so I had to do something. Kat stays outside.

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Obviously they they can't have her in there, so Rollin's

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 2>and Benson are in wood room blinds with her, and

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 2>she spilled it all. She's like, the texts were disgusting.

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 2>She was only fourteen, I saw them. She says she

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't know, like Sprons is like no, no, no, there's

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 2>no way I knew. Like he looked out for me,

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 2>never cross the line, always treating me like a daughter.

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 2>And then mister Morales's here, Esperanza's father, and it's the

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 2>guy from the beginning, and Cat fills him in and

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 2>he's like, wait, wait, wait, I should be in there,

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 2>but she's not a miner, and he's like, okay, fine,

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 2>but like send her a message, like tell her to

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 2>wait for a lawyer, and that her dad said to

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 2>zip it, you know. So she's spilling all the beans.

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.479
<v Speaker 2>Cat knocks and goes, your dad's here, and she goes

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Santos So She's like, he doesn't even need to be here.

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Benson goes, hey, babe, we're talking, so bye a cat

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 2>and she goes, oh, and by the way, your dad

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:33.319
<v Speaker 2>wants you to stop talking and that you should wait

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 2>for a lawyer. So Benson mouth mouth is like on

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 2>the table, like it's a cartoon character.

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 3>It's like bugs bunny with a crush. Yeah, like mouth

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 3>hits the table and Shock can't even believe it, stands

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:47.800
<v Speaker 3>up pissed. Oh. Then girly as Speranza stands up pissed.

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Do I need a lawyer?

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 2>And Rollins goes, well, if he presses charges and she screams,

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 2>he's a rapist, and Benson takes to me now and

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 2>goes and she goes, I know I screwed up, but

0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 2>her dad's upset and I want to help everyone, and

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Benson goes, you are way too close and you need

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 2>to be objective, and she calls around, goes, you get

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 2>too close all the time, and she goes, yeah, I know,

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's a fucking problem. And my old captain rest

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 2>in peace. I guess. Craigan used to say, if you're

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 2>too close to a case, you're not helping the victim.

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like Cragan's never said that. Kat goes, well, what

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 2>are we gonna do? We need to help, Like, when

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:22.240
<v Speaker 2>are we arraigning this guy? When are we arraigning Romeo?

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's like he's in the hospital and hit his head.

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Kat goes, fuck that he's faking injury to buy time.

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't buy it. Benson goes, Okay, I'll pass that

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 2>on to Creesy. So we're at Laguardi a hospital. He

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>is handcuffed to the bed arraigning and the raiment's going on.

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 2>So the judge's there and his lawyers and Cat and

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I fucking love a fucking hospital arrayment.

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 3>I am obsessed with the scene. I used to have

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 3>a different No.

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I still want to hopefully book a part where I

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>can get carried out of the courtroom after trying to

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 2>run to the witness stand. But I think doing a

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 2>hospital arrangment that's fun.

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 3>In the second place, also fun. Yeah, And the judge

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 3>even goes, is everyone cozy?

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean they? I love it. So he's pleading not guilty.

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:12.280
<v Speaker 2>The bail said twenty grands. I did write twenty dollars,

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:19.399
<v Speaker 2>but I did twenty grand. They want to protective order

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 2>as well to keep them away from the gym, to

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 2>protect the girls, the defense, blah blah blah. But they

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 2>grant the gym thing the twenty K veil and he

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 2>needs to surrender his passport cat and Creasy walk away

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 2>and Cammy is like, does not want to testify. She

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 2>loves this guy. Cariese says a call her is a

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.919
<v Speaker 2>hostile witness, like whatever, but you keep working on her.

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Then uh oh, beppep bepepep Romeo is down bad under

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 2>He's dead. So Esperanza needs a lawyer.

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Not good. Things went south real quick with the old woman.

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like he was like giggling and making jokes during

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 2>the arraignment, Like I can't believe how fast this happens.

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Careese's like, tell her now, Esperanza needs a lawyer. They're

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 2>on her side. So he died from a brain bleed

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.919
<v Speaker 2>moments outside, like they should have known. But so they're

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 2>trying to blame like the arraiment stressed him out that

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 2>his brain bled whatever. Robin's and Chris, you're talking to

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Hadid who I think we like? We end up hating her,

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 2>like she's a dumb bitch, right, Yeah, she's the worst.

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't like, So they are discussing the case and

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 2>she goes, fuck rape to murder and they're like, well, no,

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 2>we like Esperanza and she goes, well, I don't care,

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 2>but she's a trained boxer, so man too. And they're like, no,

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 2>that's fifteen years. She goes, yeah, terrible, pep, that's what's happening.

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Like she sucks. So they go talk to her.

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.240
<v Speaker 2>They're in cement room bars this time she's in Adida's

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:42.879
<v Speaker 2>tracksuit and she goes, this is not how my story

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 2>is supposed to go. I'm supposed to rise above the narrative,

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 2>like I'm not supposed to live this life, and I'm

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.799
<v Speaker 2>here for assaulting a fucking rapist. And they reveal that

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 2>he's dead. So she's stunned. She's scared. She didn't mean

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 2>to her eyes are watering. They tell her she's getting

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 2>a manslaughter charge. She says it's an accident. Benson says

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 2>it might not matter. Benson leans in and asks if

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Romeo did anything to her. She goes, no, never, and

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Benson's voice is really soft. She's caring at this moment,

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:12.479
<v Speaker 2>and she says she doesn't want anything from her father

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 2>because they're like, you know, your father says, she'll get here,

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 2>they'll get you a lawyer.

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Your father will do this.

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 2>She's like, I do not fuck with my father, Like

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:20.279
<v Speaker 2>get the fuck, Like, don't ever say his name to me.

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Benson walks away slowly over to her and goes, are

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 2>you sure there's nothing that you can remember that would

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 2>this turned this into self defense? She starts to cry

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 2>like obviously she's hiding something and there's like a lot

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 2>of weight behind everything. And then Cat and Benson go

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 2>to the spy window and they also know she's hiding something,

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 2>so they decide to talk to the dozens of witnesses

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.879
<v Speaker 2>that were there that saw the punch out happen. So

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 2>they're at the street memorial for Romeo, and so some

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 2>people do know the molestations, some don't. I'm not really

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 2>sure what the community vibe is. They're talking to another

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 2>fighter and she's like, we're family here and now we're

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 2>broken and I don't know who to believe. And they're like,

0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 2>just tell us what you saw, and she says, Esperanza

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 2>came in hyped up. They started arguing, she heard stuff.

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, he said, you're jealous and she punched him.

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 2>But this woman says if Esperanza hit him, that was

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:17.840
<v Speaker 2>for a reason, like she wouldn't just be punching people.

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 2>So now Kat's talking to another woman who's like, I

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 2>can't take sides, and Kat's like, well, what will you

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 2>tell her when she's in prison for fifteen years? And

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 2>she did hear them get into something, and she's wrapping

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 2>a young fighter's hand and it's like, send the child away,

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 2>but she's like, I went over to break up the fight.

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, but what was the fight about? And

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess he leaned into her ear and called her

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 2>damaged goods, so she slugged him, and then Kat asks like,

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.799
<v Speaker 2>be straight with me looking back, did you ever see

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:46.839
<v Speaker 2>something not right with him?

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:47.240
<v Speaker 3>And Cammy?

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 2>And she goes it doesn't matter. At the end of

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:51.359
<v Speaker 2>the day, no matter what will always be known as

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 2>that men make a mess and women have to clean

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:56.920
<v Speaker 2>it up. And she like walks through the empty gym.

0:46:57.480 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 2>So back to the girl brainstorm at the office and

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Creasy and Finn. It's actually everybody and they're both in

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.319
<v Speaker 2>full suits and Finn looks like he's going to a

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 2>wedding and is like a groomsman. He is wearing a

0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 2>blue silk shirt with an exact color matching blue silk tie.

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 2>It is a very strange look. I feel like he

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 2>has plans after work, so Baylis said at ten grand

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:20.799
<v Speaker 2>and Kat goes against a direct order to stay away

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 2>from her without a lawyer as an and is immediately

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:25.240
<v Speaker 2>they're like, do not go see her without a lawyer.

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 2>She's in a room with her at rikers immediately. I

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 2>just love how little they ever follow directions.

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 3>They don't ever listen.

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:35.360
<v Speaker 2>She says Romeo is like a father to her, like

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.319
<v Speaker 2>it sucks, and Kat's like, well, you have a father,

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 2>and she goes leave him out and like and she

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 2>tells Kat to leave, and she doesn't want to talk

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 2>about it. She tries to walk off, but Kat's like, babe,

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 2>it's fifteen years so she will, you know, never go

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 2>to jail for a man. So she walks back and

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 2>says Romeo never touched me. And Kat asks why he

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 2>called her damaged goods. She's like, fuck, people heard that,

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 2>and she says not everybody, and Kat goes, but what

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:01.359
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't want to say. She's struggling to even put

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 2>the words together. Kat obviously guesses it's the father of

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Santos and she and don't you ever mention that man

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 2>to me again? And she leaves, so Kat's like, fuck,

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 2>what do I do now? And then back at work,

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.839
<v Speaker 2>she's confessing to Benson and Creasy that she talked to her,

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 2>but as a friend, not a cop. Cariesy is fuming,

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen him this mad ever, and like hand

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 2>in her face, Staten Island vibes, oh, you went to

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Rikers after she invoked.

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Like it is ha ha. I love that he's so pissed.

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:35.240
<v Speaker 2>You went to Rikers after she invoked, like he is pissed.

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 2>They argue back and forth. Benson's being calm, She's being

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:40.839
<v Speaker 2>quite kind to Kat in this moment. The fight ends

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:43.840
<v Speaker 2>with Paresi going okay, I guess just a little probative,

0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:47.839
<v Speaker 2>like it's ha ha ha and so but and then

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 2>he goes, maybe you should be talking to her defense attorney,

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 2>not me, and he tells her to not go back

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 2>to Rikers without a lawyer and storms off, and she's like,

0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll go take a run at Santo's and Benson's like, girl,

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 2>you're not going anywhere. You cannot be trusted and you

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:05.279
<v Speaker 2>cannot do anything without me. You are benched Rollins and

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Finn go to talk to Daddy Pedophile and he's like, oh, yeah,

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:11.080
<v Speaker 2>my daughter's an angry person. She lashes out at people

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 2>who fail her. You know, it happens. And Finn asks

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 2>if she has always been that way, and he blames

0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:18.799
<v Speaker 2>her mother for leaving when she was ten years old

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 2>for all her problems, and they're like, wow, she had

0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 2>a dad, so you obviously flop too, right, and you

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 2>don't seem tight, so that's weird. And he goes, I

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 2>gave her everything, ballet, gymnastics, boxing, I bust my ass

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:32.839
<v Speaker 2>so she can have the success I didn't have, and

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:35.800
<v Speaker 2>still she pushed me away. Finn plays like a deadbeat

0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 2>connection game, you know, trying to like rile them up,

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's like when they pretend to be

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:43.520
<v Speaker 2>in cells and Rollins goes, or maybe you got too close,

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, what and you could tell he gets

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:48.319
<v Speaker 2>nervous and like knows exactly what the fuck she's saying,

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.360
<v Speaker 2>but the detectives you don't really have to say anything.

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:52.319
<v Speaker 2>And he leans in and says, I was a good

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 2>father and I did everything for my two girls, and

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like, excuse me, ding ding ding, there's a sister

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 2>had what's going on? He goes, yeah, she hooked. I

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:03.440
<v Speaker 2>tried to save her. Now I've lost both my girls.

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:06.399
<v Speaker 2>So one's a boxer, one's a junkie. Like obviously it's

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:10.399
<v Speaker 2>this man's fault. So Esperanza, her lawyer, Benson and Cat

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 2>are chatting and they're trying to save her.

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Tell your story.

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:16.319
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't define you, Benson says, and Kat says, it

0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:19.920
<v Speaker 2>also doesn't have to leave this room. So he would whisp.

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:23.799
<v Speaker 2>So he would climb into her bed whisper Jesus as

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 2>he like went in there. And he was a mean

0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 2>drunk when she was little, and she would hear his

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 2>footsteps and she just knew what was happening, and he

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 2>would hold her down and rape her, and eventually she

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:36.239
<v Speaker 2>like stopped fighting back and that was that. And they

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:39.399
<v Speaker 2>asked how Romeo knew, and it's because she came into

0:50:39.440 --> 0:50:42.360
<v Speaker 2>box to protect herself and he looked at Santos and

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:44.680
<v Speaker 2>knew exactly why. So from the beginning he knew that,

0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:47.880
<v Speaker 2>like she needed to fight to like stop molestation. So

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 2>when she confronted him about Cammy, he's like, you're fucking jealous.

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I would never want your poppies, sloppy seconds.

0:50:55.360 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 4>Fucked such a fun Benson Benson's bit, so she wants

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:04.800
<v Speaker 4>to swing it on his ass too, like she truly,

0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:05.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 2>So then Kat is like yeah, Kat is stunned. She

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 2>says she should have known and protected Cammy, and Benson goes, well,

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 2>and like, you know how you should have protected your sister.

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:18.319
<v Speaker 3>She looks up. She's like, oh my god, my sister.

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:20.360
<v Speaker 2>You talk to her and they're confused that she's alive

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.200
<v Speaker 2>because Santos made it seem like she's dead, but she

0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:25.800
<v Speaker 2>as of two years ago, she was out. She's alive

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 2>in panhandling outside of port authority. So they find her

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 2>at Tompkins Renewal Shelter and Finn and Kat go to

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 2>find her there to talk about her sister, and immediately

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 2>she goes, espie is she in trouble? I heard she's

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 2>in trouble. And they're like, well, we're hoping you can

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 2>help us, like help her, like, so they explain the situation.

0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:43.360
<v Speaker 2>She's upset and she goes, well, yeah, that's why she

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 2>boxed to protect us, and Kat's like, well, come on, like,

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 2>let's help your sister. We'll talk to the d ada

0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 2>and she agrees to do that, but she goes, but

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 2>my sister's good at boxing, so she has to pay me,

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Like how much money are you gonna give me?

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 3>And it's also like are you de Lulu? Like you

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:56.959
<v Speaker 3>think she's like rolling in the dough?

0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, crazy, but I guess you know she's on

0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:03.560
<v Speaker 2>the street, So what's rolling in the dough? So giant

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 2>marble hall walk and talk, it's a really gorgeous location.

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 3>It's the whole team in Creasey.

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:10.640
<v Speaker 2>He's like, fuck, so she's only gonna help her sister

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 2>if she gets paid, and it's like, yeah, it is

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 2>what it is.

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 3>SPI's too ashamed. We need to arrest him, Like what

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 3>are we gonna do?

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:19.640
<v Speaker 2>And Hadid goes, okay, you're right, but we're not gonna

0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and then she just walks off like we're at Rikers

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 2>and it's Santo's visiting through the glass and he's menacing,

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 2>like this is scary, and then he goes, oh to

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.040
<v Speaker 2>see my own kid, I have to sit through glass

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 2>and she says, you're You're lucky I'm even talking to

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:38.960
<v Speaker 2>you at all. He sighs and goes, your sister calls

0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 2>me and she's like super nervous that you're gonna run

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:46.960
<v Speaker 2>your mouth, and Spi responds, she is, or you are,

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:52.240
<v Speaker 2>and guess what they're spying. We're spying. We're taping, we're spying. Okay,

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 2>So Coreesi and Captain Benson our hands on deck and

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.960
<v Speaker 2>there's a tech there everything, and he's about to hang

0:52:58.040 --> 0:52:59.800
<v Speaker 2>up and it kills her, like but she has to

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:02.080
<v Speaker 2>a like she hates him, does not want to talk

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:04.360
<v Speaker 2>to him, but needs him because obviously a spy window

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 2>and we need him to confess. So and this actress

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:10.440
<v Speaker 2>is incredible. It's like she needs him there, doesn't want him.

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 2>There has to beg him, like crying on the inside,

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:16.000
<v Speaker 2>like it's fucking wild. So she's like, okay, I get it.

0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 2>And so she's like, you want me to keep my

0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 2>mouth shut?

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:19.120
<v Speaker 3>I get it.

0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:20.680
<v Speaker 2>But my lawyer says, the only way I don't go

0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:23.799
<v Speaker 2>to jail forever is by telling people what you did.

0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:26.040
<v Speaker 2>And she cries and says, you should have never touched me,

0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:29.600
<v Speaker 2>and he isn't saying anything incriminating yet, and she presses

0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 2>like you suck and you're only here so people don't

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:34.239
<v Speaker 2>know you're the worst, Like you never took care of me.

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Screwing your daughters. How can you do that to me?

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 2>And she cries and he says, finally, I couldn't help it.

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:46.320
<v Speaker 2>After your mommy left, you were all I had. Puke, puke, puke.

0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:49.360
<v Speaker 2>He says, it's not my fault. She cries, oh, right,

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 2>because it's my fault.

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:52.880
<v Speaker 2>You always said it was my fault because I was beautiful,

0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:55.359
<v Speaker 2>that I was teasing you, and he goes, I raised

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:57.920
<v Speaker 2>you alone and I had needs and she says, you

0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:00.160
<v Speaker 2>raped me, and he says, do you hear yourself? What

0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:02.760
<v Speaker 2>man would want you after you say that on the stand.

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:05.439
<v Speaker 2>And she says, how can you say that you took

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 2>everything from me? My childhood, my sister, my career. I

0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 2>was almost out. I was a fighter and I was

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 2>a damn good one and I had a chance, and

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:18.280
<v Speaker 2>now I'm stuck in this hell hole. This actress is incredible,

0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 2>and she starts banging the glass with the phone and

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:25.240
<v Speaker 2>starts climbing onto the glass like truly trying to fucking

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 2>kill this guy. And then she's screaming and I'm stuck

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 2>here because of you. You took everything from me. Get

0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:36.560
<v Speaker 2>out and screaming, and then a cop is dragging her away.

0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 2>She's sobbing. He sits there and he's panting, and she

0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 2>walks in with bandages on her hands. Later, like she

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:46.799
<v Speaker 2>beat the glass and the whole team's like, you killed it, girl,

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:48.400
<v Speaker 2>you did it. And she goes, then why do I

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:51.520
<v Speaker 2>feel like I lost? And Benson goes, trust me, you didn't.

0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:54.399
<v Speaker 2>The hard part is over. You're still standing and we're

0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 2>going to give you assault too. That's only two years. Okay, wait,

0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:00.960
<v Speaker 2>can I just say something really quick? This actress is

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 2>named Manny.

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Perez and I am seeing like a Reddit thread where

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 1>she's a big voice in GTA. I think and I

0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:17.000
<v Speaker 1>think that these fucking game boys like like bullied her

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:19.160
<v Speaker 1>off the internet. Like she used to have an Instagram

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and she took it down because probably of all these creeps, so.

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:26.960
<v Speaker 2>That a woman can't even do a voice on a game, like, yeah,

0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 2>that's how mad they are.

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, truly, because she did.

0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she has like any I mean, there's

0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:35.240
<v Speaker 1>an Instagram account up that looks like a bot account

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>with no posts that has fifty eight thousand followers. That's her,

0:55:38.920 --> 0:55:41.080
<v Speaker 1>but like it's that's that's her name, but it's not.

0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah crazy anyway, just reminded me of that game, the

0:55:47.840 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 1>lowest rated SVU episode of all time on IMDb because

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 1>of these fucking in cells.

0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 2>So now it cuts to Santo's and he's trying to

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 2>buy off the sister and he's like buying her things

0:55:58.160 --> 0:56:01.000
<v Speaker 2>at the bodega, and he's like, you're awesome, not like

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:04.239
<v Speaker 2>your sister, Like you got over it. She's so fucking annoying.

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:08.239
<v Speaker 2>But guess who's right outside. It's the daughter helped the

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:10.719
<v Speaker 2>daughter helped the other daughter, the sisters. The sisters are

0:56:10.719 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 2>doing it for themselves together, and they got him. So

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 2>she spits on him and goes, I hope you die

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:19.880
<v Speaker 2>in prison. And she also tells Kat like she and

0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:22.520
<v Speaker 2>don't no one needs to pay me. I don't need

0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:24.160
<v Speaker 2>the money. Tell her to give the money back, like

0:56:24.200 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 2>fuck this, and Graciella just runs off crying, all right, why.

0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Is Kat fucking paying witnesses.

0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:31.239
<v Speaker 1>You can't do that or like paying people to do

0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:33.560
<v Speaker 1>shit that is gonna make the whole thing invalid.

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, she's just give me the money back. I know,

0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 3>but nobody learns their goddamn lessons.

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Morales is punching in the gym in the prison, but

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:45.920
<v Speaker 2>she has visitors, and her prison outfit is fire like,

0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 2>she looks fucking awesome. Her sweatpants are so cool, they

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:52.400
<v Speaker 2>fit her really well. And Cat's there and it's Grassiella,

0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.560
<v Speaker 2>my god, and they hug and they say sorry, it's

0:56:55.600 --> 0:56:58.920
<v Speaker 2>so emotional, and I actually cried. I did start to cry.

0:56:59.360 --> 0:57:01.759
<v Speaker 2>It's like a very emotional moment. And then they think

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Cat Cat smiles and that stickwolf baby.

0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh tough, tough, fucking episode. But and we got to

0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 1>get some help to Cammi too. Let's get some help

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 1>over to Cammy who thinks she was in love with her.

0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Train is going to get her some therapy molesting her. Yeah,

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:30.240
<v Speaker 1>there was some stuff written that this maybe is about

0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:33.920
<v Speaker 1>like the one punch loophole where, which is I know

0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:37.360
<v Speaker 1>something Liza likes to talk about from con Air, Right,

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the con Air rule.

0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, the Conair rule.

0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:43.120
<v Speaker 1>So like that if a person punches another person and

0:57:43.160 --> 0:57:45.040
<v Speaker 1>it results in their death, but the assailant did not

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:49.080
<v Speaker 1>specifically intend to kill them, prosecutors may struggle to provide

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 1>felony man to prove felony manslaughter, which leads usually to

0:57:53.120 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 1>lower misdemeanor charges.

0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:55.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's not.

0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Actually what the what the Conair rule is the conair

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 2>rule is that like you have your special like if

0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 2>you're a professional boxer or like you're in the military,

0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.720
<v Speaker 2>like your your body is a big weapon.

0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:11.200
<v Speaker 3>So like if you're a profusing your fists as well.

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like if you're especially trained to murder and you

0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:17.520
<v Speaker 2>murder like you're a weapon. So that's not oh not

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:20.200
<v Speaker 2>just any random person can oh okay the punch.

0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:22.040
<v Speaker 1>This is a little bit different because there's like it's

0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 1>like there's like a one punch rule. There's a one

0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:26.840
<v Speaker 1>punch thing, and then there's a sucker punch thing like

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:28.919
<v Speaker 1>cause I think that's a little bit different than sucker

0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:29.640
<v Speaker 1>punching someone.

0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 3>But essentially what happened.

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Was there were in the years leading up to this episode,

0:58:36.160 --> 0:58:37.480
<v Speaker 1>like in like I would say a lot of the

0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty tens, there were a lot of incidences of one

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 1>punch deaths happening. And I mean, honestly, one happened at

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:46.640
<v Speaker 1>my college in like two thousand or ninety nine. Actually

0:58:47.240 --> 0:58:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a freshman came on campus and got into a fight

0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:51.919
<v Speaker 1>with someone who had come to a party. Didn't even

0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:54.200
<v Speaker 1>go one punch. The kid landed on his head the

0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:56.600
<v Speaker 1>wrong way and he died. It was his first week

0:58:56.640 --> 0:59:00.640
<v Speaker 1>at college, so terrible. This, Yeah, it was like off.

0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean I didn't know him. I wasn't even at

0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:04.160
<v Speaker 1>school yet because the freshman get there before people. So

0:59:04.720 --> 0:59:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it like it was really really fucking crazy. But I've

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:10.400
<v Speaker 1>like heard stories like but I guess a lot of

0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:12.880
<v Speaker 1>them were coming out in the news in New York

0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:18.440
<v Speaker 1>specifically leading up to this episode. So I'll talk about one.

0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 1>A guy named I guess it's a Hungarian name, much

0:59:21.280 --> 0:59:24.040
<v Speaker 1>like Marishka. His name is spelled sa Ndo, but it's

0:59:24.040 --> 0:59:30.520
<v Speaker 1>pronounced shandor Shandor. Zabo had just left his sister's wedding

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 1>in Queen's in August of twenty eighteen. He was drunk,

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:37.920
<v Speaker 1>his phone was dead, and he was looking for an

0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:40.439
<v Speaker 1>uber that he had apparently called or someone had called

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:44.040
<v Speaker 1>for him, and security camera footage shows him like throwing

0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:46.680
<v Speaker 1>his jacket on the ground trying to pull a mailbox

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:49.520
<v Speaker 1>out of the sidewalk. Like the guy's kind of wasted

0:59:49.520 --> 0:59:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and belligerent, and I guess he's like tapping on cars

0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:56.160
<v Speaker 1>that he thinks for his uber. And this guy, Jamil Jones,

0:59:56.520 --> 1:00:00.280
<v Speaker 1>who is from who is living in North Carolina. He's

1:00:00.320 --> 1:00:03.640
<v Speaker 1>an assistant coach for Wake Forest basketball. Wake Forest is

1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:08.120
<v Speaker 1>where my brother went to college. And he was driving

1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:14.280
<v Speaker 1>with his fiance in a white BMW and apparently this

1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:17.520
<v Speaker 1>guy I read a couple of different conflicting things. One

1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:23.040
<v Speaker 1>was that this guy uh smacked like he saw the

1:00:23.080 --> 1:00:25.400
<v Speaker 1>guy acting crazy, and then this guy smashed on the

1:00:25.400 --> 1:00:28.440
<v Speaker 1>back of their car. Some reports just say he smacked

1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:31.160
<v Speaker 1>on the car. Others say that he actually broke the

1:00:31.200 --> 1:00:34.440
<v Speaker 1>winch the back windshield that the like, that's how Actually,

1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Jimiel Jones actually testified in court later saying that he

1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:42.120
<v Speaker 1>broke the back windshield and so he said that he

1:00:42.120 --> 1:00:44.960
<v Speaker 1>heard a loud boom and that the weird real windshield

1:00:45.000 --> 1:00:47.480
<v Speaker 1>of the car was smashed in, and that his fiance

1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:50.280
<v Speaker 1>like had her head in her lap and was crying.

1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:57.080
<v Speaker 1>And Jones said that that the drunk guy Zabo came

1:00:57.200 --> 1:00:59.680
<v Speaker 1>up to her side of the car, like the passenger

1:00:59.760 --> 1:01:02.240
<v Speaker 1>side and laughed like a he haw.

1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:04.240
<v Speaker 3>That's what I read on the article. Like I don't

1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:04.640
<v Speaker 3>know if.

1:01:04.480 --> 1:01:07.760
<v Speaker 1>It was like a yippie kaye, motherfucker he haw or whatever.

1:01:07.840 --> 1:01:11.080
<v Speaker 1>But so then Jones was like, oh, I got to

1:01:11.120 --> 1:01:14.440
<v Speaker 1>get this guy away from my fiance or from whatever

1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:17.320
<v Speaker 1>he's so he chased him and punched him in the face.

1:01:17.760 --> 1:01:21.480
<v Speaker 1>He claims that this guy, Zabo, had a fist raised

1:01:21.520 --> 1:01:23.960
<v Speaker 1>at him, but other reports and camera footage say that

1:01:23.960 --> 1:01:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the guy was actually backing away from him.

1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:27.840
<v Speaker 3>So but after the punch hits.

1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:31.440
<v Speaker 1>After the punch, Zabo hit the sidewalk and Jones and

1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:34.960
<v Speaker 1>his fiance left the scene. When they circled back, they

1:01:35.000 --> 1:01:37.160
<v Speaker 1>said they saw the man propped up against a car

1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and other people helping him, so they like assumed he

1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:41.800
<v Speaker 1>was all right. But he was not all right, and

1:01:41.840 --> 1:01:44.640
<v Speaker 1>he actually suffered a traumatic brain injury and was brain dead,

1:01:45.080 --> 1:01:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and four days after the punch he was taken off

1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:51.480
<v Speaker 1>life support. After his organs were donated, Jones turned himself

1:01:51.520 --> 1:01:53.760
<v Speaker 1>into the police. He had already like I think he

1:01:53.800 --> 1:01:56.920
<v Speaker 1>had already returned to North Carolina, but he had. He

1:01:57.000 --> 1:01:59.360
<v Speaker 1>returned to New York and turned himself in. He had

1:01:59.480 --> 1:02:02.600
<v Speaker 1>zero and he said he's never even had a drink

1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:03.680
<v Speaker 1>in his entire life.

1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:07.680
<v Speaker 2>And I like that the victim has proved something good.

1:02:07.680 --> 1:02:09.880
<v Speaker 2>And to me, I'm like, well, then you belong in jail.

1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:11.280
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know.

1:02:11.760 --> 1:02:14.680
<v Speaker 1>It was just like everybody was like testifying that this

1:02:14.760 --> 1:02:16.560
<v Speaker 1>is a good man and so was the man who died.

1:02:16.640 --> 1:02:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Like everyone in the articles is like they're both great guys,

1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Like this is like a tragedy that like nobody was

1:02:22.360 --> 1:02:24.960
<v Speaker 1>really trying to commit any crimes.

1:02:24.960 --> 1:02:25.640
<v Speaker 3>It feels like.

1:02:27.480 --> 1:02:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Zabo's mother, Donna Kent, was trying to fight New York

1:02:32.800 --> 1:02:38.200
<v Speaker 1>City because they treat one punch deaths as third degree assaults,

1:02:38.400 --> 1:02:40.600
<v Speaker 1>a misdemeanor crime. So it's actually the opposite of what

1:02:40.680 --> 1:02:43.160
<v Speaker 1>happens in the episode is that it has a max

1:02:43.200 --> 1:02:46.680
<v Speaker 1>penalty of one year. So what's interesting is like Hadid

1:02:46.800 --> 1:02:49.480
<v Speaker 1>is giving her this manslaughter and stuff, but that's actually

1:02:49.560 --> 1:02:53.200
<v Speaker 1>what they're saying. This loophole with one punch crimes is

1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that it's really hard to prove manslaughter when you only

1:02:55.680 --> 1:02:59.320
<v Speaker 1>punched one time in an act of passion, like you know,

1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:03.640
<v Speaker 1>not premeditated. So it is kind of wild that Hadid's like,

1:03:03.640 --> 1:03:05.480
<v Speaker 1>oh no, we're giving her manslaughter, Like that's going to

1:03:05.520 --> 1:03:06.040
<v Speaker 1>be so easy.

1:03:06.040 --> 1:03:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, because I think she's the conair. She's a professional boxer.

1:03:09.640 --> 1:03:13.400
<v Speaker 2>That's what Hadid said. Oh, okay, so that's the con airy. Okay,

1:03:13.440 --> 1:03:14.520
<v Speaker 2>because she's a boxer.

1:03:14.600 --> 1:03:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So she basically treated her body as a weapon, and.

1:03:18.080 --> 1:03:20.080
<v Speaker 3>So the mother of the deceased was pissed.

1:03:21.040 --> 1:03:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the mother decease was pissed. She thinks these assault

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<v Speaker 1>should be treated as homicides. In twenty twenty, Jones actually

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<v Speaker 1>did go to court and he was sentenced to three

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<v Speaker 1>years of probation, fifteen hundred hours of community service, and

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<v Speaker 1>a one thousand dollars fine. So he never actually saw

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<v Speaker 1>any jail time, but he did. By the way, one

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<v Speaker 1>article I read said that his team of lawyers, like

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<v Speaker 1>that are the whole like all this whole team of

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers could not find his fiancee, Like they never were

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<v Speaker 1>able to find her to question her.

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<v Speaker 3>So like I don't even know what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But one article was like they could never question the

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<v Speaker 1>fiance because she's a witness to what happened. But they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but there are as people on the street

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<v Speaker 1>that witnessed the whole thing too. So anyway, this past

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<v Speaker 1>September actually of twenty twenty five, Donna Kent, the mother

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<v Speaker 1>of the victim, was awarded a total of and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to read this because I've never seen such a

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<v Speaker 1>precise judgment given one million, three hundred and fifty five,

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and ninety five dollars and sixteen cents.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how they came up with.

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<v Speaker 1>That number, but that is the month that she was

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<v Speaker 1>awarded in a civil suit against Jones, and the mother

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<v Speaker 1>originally tried to sue the college to wake Forest, which

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<v Speaker 1>has deep pockets, and there was like they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no proof. This has nothing to do with wake Forest.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like a coach for our team who lives

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<v Speaker 1>who was in another state. So they dropped the wake

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<v Speaker 1>Forest part. But this guy has to pay out, but

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<v Speaker 1>he lost his job. He's like, I lost my job,

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my family, I've lost like everything from this.

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<v Speaker 1>But what the civil court found in their judgment was that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he stopped his car in order to interact

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<v Speaker 1>with this man. He got out of his car with

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<v Speaker 1>the attempt to cause him harm when he could have

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<v Speaker 1>just driven away.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was a one punch law that was introduced

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<v Speaker 1>as the result of the following crime in June of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen. So a few years before this even thing happened,

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<v Speaker 1>was Zabo and Jones. A guy named Ildefonso Romero Junior,

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty nine year old father of five who was

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<v Speaker 1>about to celebrate his thirty fourth wedding anniversary. Was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to break up a fight in front of his house

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bronx when a seventeen year old punched him

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<v Speaker 1>and he fell and hit his head on the steal

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<v Speaker 1>part of the sidewalk, which ended up killing him. The

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen year old attacker got just five months because the

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<v Speaker 1>court could only charge the attack as a.

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<v Speaker 3>Misdemis law and it's even passed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the thing, so his family is heartbroken. So

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<v Speaker 1>in June of twenty seventeen, the New York State Senate

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<v Speaker 1>passed the Ildefonso Romero Junior's Law, which was sponsored by

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Jeff Klein, a Democrat from the Bronx Westchester area,

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<v Speaker 1>and the law would create a new felony charge for

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<v Speaker 1>an aggravated assault that results in serious injury or death,

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<v Speaker 1>also known as the one punch bill, ill defonse or

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<v Speaker 1>Romero Junior's Law allows prosecutors to charge it convict perpetrators

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<v Speaker 1>who use their fists as deadly weapons. It's a new

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<v Speaker 1>class efelony that carries a maximum prison term of four years.

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<v Speaker 1>So the laws show them from the thing or both

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<v Speaker 1>exist some configured So that's where I'm going to get to.

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<v Speaker 1>So this this comes off the heels of all these

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<v Speaker 1>police reports talking about one punch crimes like they're on

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<v Speaker 1>the rise, and that the videos are popping up on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet online they're showing people how to land a

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<v Speaker 1>one punch and how to sucker punch people and shit

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So that's why they did all this and

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<v Speaker 1>all these cases. And I honestly read about a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>more cases, but I didn't want to just go through

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<v Speaker 1>and just tell you about all these people that died

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<v Speaker 1>from one punch. But honestly, the bill was passed, but

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<v Speaker 1>it never became law, and I tried to find out

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to it, but it was passes a bill

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty seventeen, and then I don't know with like

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<v Speaker 1>COVID three years later, Like I have no idea why

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<v Speaker 1>this didn't like go on to become passed as a law,

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<v Speaker 1>but it hasn't. So it's still in New York at

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<v Speaker 1>least is still a.

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<v Speaker 3>Misdemeanor with a max of one year. So yeah. And

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<v Speaker 3>then another.

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<v Speaker 1>Case that this episode was based on is the Lloyd

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<v Speaker 1>Woodbury case, which might sound familiar to you because I

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<v Speaker 1>was halfway through recent sarching it when I actually pulled

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<v Speaker 1>up an episode of our podcast because we actually have

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<v Speaker 1>already covered it, but Lisa researched it and it was

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<v Speaker 1>in the episode A Single Life, So essentially, just.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a quick recap of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like in the late fifties, this ten year old

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<v Speaker 1>little girl named Loretta Woodbury was basically was raped by

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<v Speaker 1>her father for seven years, and he told her it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a special thing that fathers and daughters did,

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<v Speaker 1>demanded she never tell anyone. She it's funny because the

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<v Speaker 1>case has been featured in a bunch of episodes about

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<v Speaker 1>repressed memory. But she's like, I didn't repress the memory.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like didn't want to confront my father. And

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety, in her late thirties, she after psychological counseling,

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<v Speaker 1>she decided it was time to talk. She said, I

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<v Speaker 1>could no longer pretend nothing had happened. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>time to do it. She spoke with her father, she

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<v Speaker 1>spoke with friends and authorities, and then she contacted Wyoming

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<v Speaker 1>authorities in nineteen ninety and requested that they prosecute her father,

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<v Speaker 1>Lloyd Calvin Woodbury, because even though she's from the la area,

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<v Speaker 1>she's from the valley she called authorities in Wyoming because

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<v Speaker 1>they are a state that has no statute of limitations

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<v Speaker 1>on criminal cases. And he was charged in August of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety with five felony sexual abuse counts in connection

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<v Speaker 1>with assaults on the Retta, her cousin, and a third

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<v Speaker 1>girl who was also a niece of his, whose case

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<v Speaker 1>came to light as the Wyoming authorities began to investigate,

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<v Speaker 1>and in November of nineteen ninety in Wyoming, the seventy

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<v Speaker 1>three year old father pled guilty to charges of raping

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<v Speaker 1>his daughter and her cousin three decades earlier, and they

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<v Speaker 1>Wyoming said it was the oldest sexual assault conviction in

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<v Speaker 1>the state's history.

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<v Speaker 3>I was confused that they could even do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless one of the crimes took place in Wyoming, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it was where the father was living at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little confused, and I stopped my research

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<v Speaker 1>since it was repetitive. But it sounded a lot, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the story, like the abuse started at ten, just

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<v Speaker 1>like with Esperanza, the two like the sister and the cousin,

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<v Speaker 1>the two sisters, So it seems loosely base but then

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<v Speaker 1>also kind of juiced up with this one. Punch thing,

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<v Speaker 1>which I didn't even really hear about. I was living

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<v Speaker 1>in New York in the tens for a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't remember hearing about there being like a

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<v Speaker 1>big rise in that. But it is really scary. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like something to think about. If you go to punch

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<v Speaker 1>a person, you might just think I'm landing one punch,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can literally kill someone with one punch.

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<v Speaker 3>H It's precious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So that's that on that a shorty today, and.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you want to know more about that crime,

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<v Speaker 3>you can rewatch that.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go back to a single a single life

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<v Speaker 1>season one episode that we covered a few episodes back,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like last summer. But yeah, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a guest today, so let's just move on to the

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<v Speaker 1>post mortem.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I now am like, can any coaches be trusted? We

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<v Speaker 1>can't do closed door meetings with a coach. I'm nervous

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<v Speaker 1>about coaches or any kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just you were more of an athlete than I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I only ever had female coaches. I know it was

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<v Speaker 1>the dad, but the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>The professions don't matter, but it's always just like if

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<v Speaker 2>there's power. Yeah, there's a kid and a kid and

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, they're just pedophiles, I guess, just waiting like

1:10:45.080 --> 1:10:48.840
<v Speaker 3>women are Karen's and men are pedophiles, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and you gotta keep it in check.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we are actually asking to see the

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<v Speaker 1>manager is really nothing in comparison, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're killing it as a gender. But yeah, this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean also though, I feel like the thing I

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<v Speaker 1>take away from this is, like I mentioned in the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>like this guy that I went to school with, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I didn't know him, he was a freshman, it

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<v Speaker 1>was his first week at college. Just got hit one

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<v Speaker 1>time and landed on the pavement the wrong way. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm just like no fighting, like no punching or

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<v Speaker 1>violence because I always just think, even though you might

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<v Speaker 1>just think you're punching someone one time to like send

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<v Speaker 1>a message, you could fucking kill someone.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me nervous. No, I don't like fights. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>can change in a minute. I don't like little pranks.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't push anyone in.

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<v Speaker 1>A pool, like yeah, I our brains are just squishy,

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<v Speaker 1>little squishy, little vulnerable blobs in there, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't want anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>To fucking I don't know. But anyway, I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're done, We're done. Don't do sports. Don't be

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<v Speaker 2>around men, I don't know. Don't do sports, stay away

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<v Speaker 2>for men.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh sports? Do sports?

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<v Speaker 2>Fight the When someone does a crime against you, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not on you, Like you shouldn't have to bear the shame.

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<v Speaker 2>And it sucks that our society makes it easier for

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<v Speaker 2>predators to survive and than survivors to come forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I also feel like this episode taught me that even

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<v Speaker 1>though I really like boxing, I never want to get

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<v Speaker 1>as far as cat to mean is in boxing, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to be at the competitive I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have even ever want to wear the ear things like

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<v Speaker 1>the little like head wrap thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just I want to smack smash a bag. That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it for me, and then I'm out. But also

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in Vegas, I'm in la I'm in Salt Lake City.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be in La Jolla and Cleveland and Peetown. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait. Oh my god, my god.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I had my hair appointment and you know, she is

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<v Speaker 2>a reader, and she goes you know, I was remembering

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<v Speaker 2>when you first started coming to me, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>this was like over a decade ago. She goes, I

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<v Speaker 2>did keep asking you every time you came in what

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<v Speaker 2>books you read? And she goes, you did flip out

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<v Speaker 2>on me and go why do you keep asking me

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't read books? And she like remembers that

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<v Speaker 2>I was like I said that, like, I guess that

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<v Speaker 2>is how I speak. But it's like crazy and how

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<v Speaker 2>the tides have turned.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're just literally I mean, I'm always scared that

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<v Speaker 1>everything's going to end at every moment, but I'm thrilled

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<v Speaker 1>with it right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you been watching the press about Rachel dratch Up

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<v Speaker 2>from Jeopardy? No, so, I guess you know she did

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<v Speaker 2>Jeopardy probably Celebrity Jeopardy. And while she was getting her

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<v Speaker 2>hair done, the guy's like, did you study like the hairdresser?

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, no, not really, I don't know, like whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, I don't know, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>look anything up and she goes, what should I look up?

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes, I don't know, what about the Spanish Armada?

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<v Speaker 2>And then the like daily double thing. The answer was

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<v Speaker 2>the Spanish Armada like, and so she sat in the

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<v Speaker 2>hairchair looked it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Those the only thing.

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<v Speaker 2>She looked up, and then like the daily double thing

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<v Speaker 2>happens and she goes the Spanish Armada and it was right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like most people would think that that

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of weird cheating or something.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I think it's cool. I love Yeah, it's no.

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<v Speaker 2>No one's thought that. Everyone's been really pumped about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean no, I'm just it's for someone that works

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<v Speaker 1>at the show to tell you to look up one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting. Well, we don't know where the hairdresser was.

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<v Speaker 2>She could have hired someone to come to her house, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know where this person was.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we know that's crazy. I thought it was like

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<v Speaker 1>in the chair at Jeopardy with you. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>in the chair in house hair and makeup at Jeopardy,

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<v Speaker 1>but they would I bet those people know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not really supposed to like talk to anybody about like

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<v Speaker 1>any potential questions or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love a little uh coincidence. That's

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<v Speaker 1>very fun. Okay, let's get into our what would Sister

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<v Speaker 1>Peg do? This is our weekly segment where we direct

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<v Speaker 1>you towards an article, a book, or an organization something

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<v Speaker 1>to give you more information about what we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>today or in this case, you know, we're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to tell everybody to stay away from men and

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<v Speaker 1>watch out for your coaches. So this week we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to point you to the YWCA USA. Their mission is

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<v Speaker 1>to eliminate racism, empower women, stand up for social justice,

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<v Speaker 1>to find locations and donate, head over to YWCA dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>A much maybe a better place to go than a

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<v Speaker 1>boxing gym run by a pedophile.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we didn't have good post mortem lessons, but

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that actress was incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, shang it out. She was an incredible actress. She's

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<v Speaker 3>a fighter.

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<v Speaker 2>And next week we'll be doing recall from season eight,

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<v Speaker 2>episode three.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't We see you next week? Bye?

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<v Speaker 3>Duda Da Yah