1 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WOKF Daily with me 2 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: your girl, Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: it is becoming increasingly clear that we are in for 4 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: a horrific ride with the second Trump regime. I mean, 5 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: if you've been listening to this show for any amount 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: of time, I've done my best to try and stand 7 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: on rooftops and scream at the top of my lungs 8 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: to make people aware and woke to where our futures 9 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: would be headed if we allowed those that were cruel, 10 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: vindictive white nationalists to take the reins of power. Well, 11 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: we are finding out right now and they have not 12 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: even begun their term. And so in today's conversation, I 13 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: sit down for the last time on this show with 14 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: my friend doctor Christina Greer to talk about what we 15 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: can expect and how to best prepare ourselves. And Christina offers, 16 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, she says that in the first iteration of 17 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: Trump in twenty seventeen that he was bumbling right and 18 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: didn't know what he was doing, but now he is 19 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: very aware of what he is doing. And so the 20 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: vindictive nature of his upcoming term and the cruelty and 21 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: policies that they want to enforce on the rest of 22 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: us is coming. But she says that we cannot react 23 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: to every single thing that happens because they will exhaust us. 24 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: They will grind us down in to dust. And so 25 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: this conversation one gives us just a better window into 26 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: what is coming, but also offers some ways for us 27 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: to protect ourselves and frankly, our piece moving forward. That 28 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: conversation is coming up next, folks. I am so excited 29 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: to welcome back to WOKF Daily for the last time, 30 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: my friend, doctor Christina Greer, who is the author of 31 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: a new book that is out now, How to Build 32 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: a Democracy from Fanny lou Hamer and Barbara Jordan to 33 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams, which is like, girl, we need that book 34 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: right now as our democracy collapses. And is a associated 35 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: professor at Fordham University. Christina, you know, this has been 36 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: a year. It has been a year in politics. We 37 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: all know what happened on election night, and as we 38 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: march closer to the second inauguration of Donald Trump, we 39 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: are getting a very clear window as if we needed it. 40 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: We knew what was coming, but apparently everybody else needed 41 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: a window into what was coming. And now you see 42 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: folks reacting in all sorts of ways of shock, which 43 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: I'm surprised by because when people show you who they are, 44 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: you're supposed to believe them the first time. What do 45 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: you make of I guess the response right now that 46 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: folks seem to be having around the appointments, the choices 47 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: to sue media outlets, to get everyone and everything in 48 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: order essentially before he takes office. 49 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think you know what we have been saying, 50 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: and what so many black women in particular and media 51 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: especially have been saying, is that you know what is 52 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: ahead is so incredibly dangerous. You should be paying attention 53 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: to X, y Z, A, B n C. And so 54 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: many people I'm talking about white people in particular, don't 55 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: think that politics will affect them. It's sort of like, oh, well, 56 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: it's too bad for them. It's really going to be sad. 57 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: But you know, I did the right thing. I voted 58 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: this way, but I didn't do any heavy lifting to 59 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: make sure my friends and family and community members saw 60 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: my point of view. And so then we get the 61 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: results a weekend, and overwhelming results. Right because of the framing, 62 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: we know that some people will never vote for a woman. 63 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: We know that some people will never vote for a 64 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: person of color. We definitely know some people will never 65 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: vote for a woman of color, especially with two immigrant 66 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: parents and a Jewish husband. Like that's just we know 67 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: who this country is. So I don't know why people 68 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: are pretending that, you know, like, oh, I thought it 69 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,119 Speaker 2: was gonna happen. It's like we we knew the obstacles ahead. 70 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: We just had hope, right, because that's how we can 71 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: survive in this country and without going insane. 72 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: Right, and and and I think and I think that 73 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: that's important. 74 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's very important, you know, And as an educator, 75 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: it's incredibly important. But I think now that the second 76 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: term is impending. And we told people the second term 77 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: would be more dangerous than the first because the first 78 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: term he didn't know what he was doing. The second 79 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: term he's got vengeance and vendettas to settle. And he's actually, 80 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: as I've always used the sort of robbery imagery, he's 81 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: already cased the joint. 82 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: That was the first time around. 83 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: The second time around, the first time was casing the 84 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: joint in the smashing grab. The second time around, it 85 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: can be a lot more methodical. You actually don't have 86 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: to appoint Republicans that actually do care about this country 87 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: and will have a little stop gap. You actually don't 88 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: have to try and put in career pology titians who 89 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: actually know how the government works. You can just put 90 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: in grifters like you. You can put in grifters like greedy 91 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: people like you. You can put in people who don't 92 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: care about the will of law or democracy. You can 93 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: put in people who think just the way you do, 94 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: that immigrants shouldn't be here, even though four of your 95 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: five children and children are immigrants, and two of your 96 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: three wives are immigrants. But you can tell yourself all 97 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: that you need to say with this white supremacist agenda, 98 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: because don't forget, you don't have to be white to 99 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: believe in white supremacy and get folks on board. And 100 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: so then what we've seen, and we saw some of 101 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: this the first term of number forty five, I just 102 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: I really can't even stand putting his name in my mouth. 103 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: But you see these grown men, grown men acquiescing in 104 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: a way where they just look like tulips on the 105 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: twelfth Day, just bending, you know, just bending towards this 106 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: man before he even asks. 107 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: And so we told you that. 108 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: We told you that he doesn't care about education. Yep, 109 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: we told you he doesn't care about the environment. You 110 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: can tell yourself what you want about global warmings a hoax. 111 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: It's sixty degrees in December, Yep, you can. And then 112 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: then when we get a blizzards, can we see there's 113 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 2: no global warming? It's like no, no, no, there's a reason 114 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: why the summer is super hot in the winter and 115 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: hav these like flash freezing storms. 116 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: That will kill people. Thinking about buffalo yep. So we 117 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: know that. 118 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: He's gonna have the most incompetent people in the health department. 119 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: You know, you're gonna have people who literally have an 120 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 2: enemy's list. You're gonna have folks who are suing media 121 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: outlets because they reported facts or sometimes you know, the 122 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,559 Speaker 2: poll that said Donald Trump was losing to Kamala Harris, 123 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: you're suing the Iowa of registered. 124 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: He's suing and Selzer. He's suing a polster for running 125 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: a poll that said that he was behind. And this 126 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: to me, like when I saw that Christina I, which 127 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: came up earlier in the week, When I saw that, 128 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: I said, oh, so now no one can do their jobs. 129 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: It isn't just about the media reporting. It's like you're 130 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: not going to be allowed to get any facts whatsoever. 131 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: Right, And I don't I think that some of this 132 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: is bluster. 133 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: I mean, we know he's been suing people his whole life, right, 134 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: and so like some of these will get thrown out, 135 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: but we do know that he stacked the courts, right, 136 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: so you might get a friendly judge who cares about 137 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: this stuff. 138 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: If nothing else. 139 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: It's a distraction from other real issues that we should 140 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: be talking about. But as Steve Bannon said the first term, 141 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: it's like I'm just gonna throw so much at these people. Yep, 142 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: they're not even gonna be able to focus. And so 143 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: I do think that there is something to be said 144 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 2: about not subscribing to the child who throws the cheerios 145 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: on the floor, and you pick up every single cheerio 146 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: every moment he throws it on the floor. There has 147 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: to be a certain level of ignoring it. Like, yes, 148 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: independent media is incredibly important, and it's going to be 149 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: harder and harder a to fund and B to have 150 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: people who want to say things because of the fear 151 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: of you know, maniacs coming and suing you and trying 152 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: to ruin your life. But I do think that there 153 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: are enough people who were just like, yeah, I'm you 154 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: can do all that. I'm like, I'm not interested in 155 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: your blustering. But I also think that, you know, we 156 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 2: have to like protect our spirit. And I mean that 157 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: in an intellectual and an emotional way, in the sense 158 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: that the first time around, Remember we responded to almost 159 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: everything as much as we could. Yeap, like it couldn't 160 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: have been everything, right cause we know that things still 161 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: fell through the cracks because it was so much. But 162 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you were on it. I was trying to 163 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: be on it, like so many people were like he 164 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: said this, he did that, he appointed this person, that 165 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: person did this. 166 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just every day it was like I 167 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: had on a level, we were trying to have a 168 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: map of like all the crazy and we would literally 169 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: wake up from the moment our eyes opened. 170 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: It was chaos and mayhem, and I think our. 171 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: Health suffered from it, like collectively as a country, as 172 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: a nation, you know, as a world. And I think 173 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: for some of us, we actually have to choose not 174 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: to chase every cheerio on the floor, and that's gonna 175 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: be hard to do. 176 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 3: But I don't think. 177 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: I think the whole point is to have us do that, 178 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 2: so we grind ourselves into dust and we actually have 179 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: to save our energy because the midterms actually do matter. 180 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: We do know that this country does like divide a government. 181 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: The party not in power tends to gain seats m 182 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: h during the mid terms because usually the party in 183 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: power sor does certain things that makes people displeased. So 184 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: it's like, then let's focus up on some of these 185 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: districts that were lost. If you really look at the 186 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: numbers that are coming out, the Democrats did not do 187 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 2: as terribly as it seemed on election night. Yeah, as 188 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,239 Speaker 2: the whole numbers are coming through, you know, the numbers 189 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: actually seem a lot better. And there there are inroads, 190 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: and you know, think about say like the abortion band 191 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: in Florida. Fifty eight percent of Floridians said that, you know, 192 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: they thought it was a crazy idea. The only issue 193 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: is you've got a rule sixty yeah. Yeah, So it's like, 194 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: but fifty eight percent actually did say no, no, no, 195 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: like this is a bridge too far. You've got these 196 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 2: you know, hyperbolic bills that are coming through in South Carolina. 197 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: You know, let's execute women if they try and get abortioned, 198 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: you know, or let's let's prosecute people if they're traveling 199 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: through a portion of Texas trying to get an abortion 200 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: going to a different state. I think that, you know, 201 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: that's for like these hardcore sheriffs and you know, das 202 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 2: trying to make names for themselves. But I do think 203 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: that at a certain point in time, certain people are like, 204 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: this is a bridge too far. Like I'm not I'm 205 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: not taking this case. I'm not moving this case forward. 206 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: I hope I'm not being too pollyannish, because I know 207 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: I know exactly who this country is. 208 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: I am under. 209 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: No false pretenses as to who this country is. But 210 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: I do think that there are more people who think 211 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: like us in this country than not. I just think that, honestly, 212 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: we got other lazy people who believe like us, Like 213 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: I think a lot of folks who just do not 214 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: do the hard work during election season, and it is 215 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: frustrating as all get out. 216 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, speaking of people doing the 217 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: hard work or acquiescing or folding like a tulip, which 218 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: I have to use that because that was just so good. 219 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: Democrats right now seem to be missing Christina and when 220 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: they do pop their heads up, they make decisions like 221 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: they just made with regard to who's going to be 222 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: ranking member on the Oversight Committee. It was between Jerry Conley, 223 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: Democrat out of rigine Jinia, seventy four years old with 224 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: throat cancer, with throat cancer versus Alexandrero Cassio Cortez, thirty 225 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: something year old firebrand of a communicator, and they chose 226 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: the seventy four year old. Talk to me about the 227 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: decisions that the Democrats are making right now, and that 228 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: to me it looks like they have learned nothing and 229 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: are signaling that we are going to stay the course 230 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: as these moderate Republicans in Democratic centrist clothing. 231 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that that is literally the strategy, 232 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: which is if we are in tumult and chaos, stay 233 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: the course, like keep the status quo. This is not 234 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: the time to choose a thirty year old firebrand. I 235 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: think the frustrating part for me is that isn't there 236 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: a third reel? Like, isn't there a third vi? You know, 237 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: like I am, I am probably more when it comes 238 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: to politics, much more of an institutionalist than say you 239 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: you know, like I actually do think when it's in tumult. 240 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: Maybe this isn't the time to try something brand spanking new. 241 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: We can try something different, but like I don't I'm 242 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: not a pendulum swinger in that sense. And I think 243 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 2: AOC brings very smart, fantastic politician obviously going to be 244 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: a leader in the party. I don't know if she's 245 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: there yet in my opinion, my own opinion, So I 246 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: would have liked to see someone in between a seventy 247 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: four year old who has some health issues and a 248 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: thirty year old who is still I mean, she's been 249 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: in Congress, she's doing a great job, but like I 250 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: don't think she has her sea legs just yet for 251 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: that type of leadership position. 252 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: That's just my opinion. 253 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: So I would have liked to see something else. But 254 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: when in doubt, Democrats go with what they're accustomed to. Now, 255 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: for a lot of what happens in Congress, you kind 256 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: of do need people who know how to coalesce votes. No, 257 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: folks from across the country aren't necessarily polarizing, you know, 258 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: working with AOC for some people in their particular district 259 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: looks bad for them, you know, So I understand strategically, 260 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: you know, like think about I was thinking about this 261 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: with like Al Sharpton. 262 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 263 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: What makes Al Sharpton such like a brilliant politician is 264 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: he works with lots of politicians, but he knows that 265 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: sometimes it's like I can't be your friend in public 266 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: because that's bad business for you. So it's like, yeah, 267 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: we can organize and you know, strategize together, but like 268 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: I don't need to do it in front of the 269 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: cameras because then your constituents might feel some kind of 270 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: way because he knows exactly who he is. So I'm 271 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: you know, I feel like for AOC, I think a 272 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: strategy for her, honestly, if she wants to kind of 273 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: move up, is to be more like I move in silence. 274 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree in terms of the move in silence. 275 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: I just what I see in the forefront, what I 276 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: see loudly or right from Democrats is the same old, 277 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: same old right, and the same old, same old isn't 278 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: going to move the needle. The same old, same old 279 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: isn't going to get the seven million people who sat 280 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: home to decide to engage and let this be their party. 281 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: I think that Democrats are not built for this moment 282 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: in their current formation they and because the MAGA extremists 283 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: have moved so far to the right and drag Democrats 284 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: with them, who would notably be seen as centrist Democrats 285 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: are now Republics, are now moderate Republicans right in terms 286 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: of how they move. And so, what do you think 287 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: legislatively resistance would look like for the Democratic Party if 288 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: they were to create a strategy around how we need 289 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: to deal with Donald Trump moving forward? Knowing that we 290 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: have a very small there's a very small margin in 291 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: the House, much bigger one in the Senate. But what 292 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: does what would resistance look like if in fact they 293 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: were actually interested in it. 294 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't disagree with you at all that 295 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: Democrats are more comfortable, especially in moments like this, moving 296 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: towards the center. We saw that in the nineties with 297 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton, and we are still seeing the vestiges of 298 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: some of those policies. However, I will say what I 299 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 2: think a form of resistance has to look like with 300 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: this tiny margin, and essentially people who do not know 301 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: what they're doing in government in certain cabinet positions, people 302 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: who were sick of fans with the incoming president, for 303 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 2: career politicians who actually do know how the leavers of 304 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: power work. I think right now, a lot of resistance 305 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: looks like peeling off a few Republicans and making sure 306 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: you build coalitions with them to block a lot of 307 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 2: legislation that. 308 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: Would otherwise get past. 309 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: Because the first time around, Donald Trump wasn't interested in 310 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: legislation those first two years when he had unified government. 311 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: In unified government means he has the House, the Senate, 312 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: and the Presidency are all of the same party. He 313 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: was more interested in executive orders because he thought he 314 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: was a king. First order of business Muslim ban and 315 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: the courts are like, you can't do that. That's just 316 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: not how government works. He had zero idea how government works. 317 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: But he also had people around him in government who 318 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: were like, hey, sir, we can't do that. 319 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: We're not going to do that. 320 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: This time around, the people around him are fewer and 321 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: fewer who actually understand and respect government. That means the 322 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 2: people in Congress are by and large some of the 323 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: old guard, because everyone else in the cabinet is kind 324 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: of new and bonkers. I mean, we've got RFK Junior, 325 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, we can't why is his name 326 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: even rf K. 327 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: Junior, Because you're nothing like your dad like nothing. 328 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,239 Speaker 1: Right, So we honestly don't know Elon and Cash, you know, 329 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: just these people where it's what and how yet and 330 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: still here we I don't forget jd. 331 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: Vance's been in office for twenty minutes. So it is actually, 332 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: I think going to be a strategy to work with 333 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: Republicans who actually do care about the institution that is Congress, 334 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: that actually do care about the institution that is American democracy. 335 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 2: And so it's like we might disagree on certain things, 336 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: but we got to figure out a way Stacy Abram 337 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: style when she was in when she was minority leader 338 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: in the Georgia House, it's like, you disagree with this 339 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 2: for a totally different reason than the reason why I 340 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: disagree with it, but we can still vote knowing it 341 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: because we both disagree. 342 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: But do you think that there are going to be 343 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: enough of these Republicans because you have Elon Musk saying 344 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna primary you if you don't run through every single, 345 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: every single policy, every single legislative whim every sing you know, 346 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: then you are going to be primaried. And we know 347 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: that these people care more about their own ass than 348 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: they do their constituents or the country so I'm like, 349 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: are there even those people to work with? 350 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 2: Well, I think the people who who might end up 351 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: being the ones who saved the day are the old 352 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: dinosaurs who've been so difficult to work with in the past, 353 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: but those who were just on the way out. So 354 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: like I'm thinking, crazy enough, Mitch McConnell might actually be 355 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: someone that Democrats have to and need to and begin 356 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: to work with because he's on his way out and 357 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: he's like, you know what, I'm not going to burn 358 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: the institution down on my way out. Like, I know 359 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: that sounds totally insane, but I think the strategy for 360 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: Democrats is to find Republicans who aren't running for reelection 361 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: who can actually be a stop gap before they. 362 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: Leave, you know, my you know, And I will say this, 363 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: My concern with that is one that there aren't any 364 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: and two that regardless of whether or not these people 365 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: run for reelection, I don't think that they are necessary. 366 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: I think that they're more concerned about, oh, I don't know, 367 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: violence than they receiving, you know, being a product of 368 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: MAGA violence than they are about being primaried. And I wonder, like, 369 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: if we won't see I guess well, last question for 370 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: you do you think when you think about what's happening, 371 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: what's unfolding. We know that he's going to get in 372 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: and part in these January sixth insurrectionists and set the 373 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: tone of you know, the stand back and stand by 374 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: and deputize these militias. What do you think about the 375 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: increase in political violence that could be geared at his 376 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: own people? Frankly, is what I'm thinking. 377 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: And we've seen that in over history in American democracy. 378 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: I mean, like white people have killed other white people 379 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: for trying to do the right thing. 380 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: I mean that is part of our history. 381 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: That has been a race from history books as well, right, 382 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 2: I mean, like this whole book banning is not new. 383 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: We've done this time and time again. 384 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: It's how you know, so many black families have to 385 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: educate their kids after school right about the real America. No, 386 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: I think that that's a very real threat, and I 387 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: think it's a very real possibility. What I try and 388 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 2: do is explain to sort of white people that if 389 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris lost, we were boarding up DC because we 390 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: thought that people were going to rip this country apart. 391 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: But we had to board up DC because if Donald 392 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: Trump didn't get his way, then he would resort to 393 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: physical violence, like helping them see that we have now 394 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: reached a point where we have allowed specifically white men 395 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: and now growing up or Latino and Asian men, but 396 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: mainly white men, to sort of to say, if I 397 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: don't get my way, I will burn down this country. 398 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 2: Like that can't be a strategy moving forward in this country. 399 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 2: And so when we think about like, well, you know, 400 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: working class whites and poor whites, you know, I could 401 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: see why they're so frustrated they would have rip apart 402 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: the country. It's like, no one else in this country 403 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 2: defaults to that behavior. No one else does when they 404 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: don't get. 405 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: No one else can, no one else can. You know, 406 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: because if you if you throw that kind of tantrum, 407 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: like you're dead and you're if you're black girl, imagine. 408 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: That thought experiment of hundreds of black people ripping down 409 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: the capitol on January sixth. Do you realize that they 410 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: would have bombed the capitol. They would have just setted 411 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: a blaze. Yes, they would have killed everyone. And it's like, well, rebuild. 412 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 3: The capitol next week. 413 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: But guess what, everybody's dead, Like I think everyone knows that, 414 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: Like what if it were a bunch of Muslim, yeah, 415 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: one off, a bunch of Latino. It's like, you can't 416 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: imagine people beating up police officers, but you know there's 417 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: all if you go on YouTube and it's like white 418 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: people fighting cops, you will see cops like chasing white people, 419 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: tussling with them on the grass, I mean, getting slapped, 420 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: getting their guns stolen, you know, like getting their vest 421 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: pulled up, and it's just like and not once does 422 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 2: a police officer think to shoot them now once? And 423 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: so I think, you know what this is going to 424 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: expose and what it has exposed, and it's becoming more 425 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: and more evident every day, is how Donald Trump and 426 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: people who believe in him and act like him and 427 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: oftentimes look like him, have a totally different reality in 428 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: this country. And I do think in the positive way 429 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 2: that a lot of white Americans are like, this is 430 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: not right and it's insane, Like now, you can't even 431 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: the first time this happened, it seemed like a vote 432 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 2: for you could say it's Donald is one person. The 433 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: second time it's like, oh, this is a problem with 434 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: the country. And I think this is a positive note. 435 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: This election has exposed, yeap, what you and I have 436 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 2: been saying what you're screaming from the just but some people, 437 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: For some people, this is the first time. 438 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: That they're seeing it. 439 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: This is the first time they're going from black and 440 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 2: white to technicolor, right, and it's like they're not even 441 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: in HD yet, so they're literally this is still beginning, 442 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: and it's like what And so I do think as 443 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: an educator giving people now, we've been giving you a moment, 444 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: but it's like, oh, you need a second to process 445 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: this because this has been forty five years of reality imagine, 446 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: you know. And it's sort of and it's not the 447 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: same thing, but it is sort of the way I 448 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: explain to my younger LGBTQ plus students, I'm like, listen, when. 449 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: We were growing up. 450 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: One, it was gay, right, so it's like we didn't 451 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: have the different letters and definitions. And two when it 452 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: comes to pronouns, I'm like, as an educator, I've been 453 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: in the classroom at Fordham since two thousand and nine, 454 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: so when I started, we never talked about pronouns, never asked, 455 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: never did anything. It wasn't until like five or six 456 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: years ago where we started saying, what is your preferred 457 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: pronoun that's now even wrong. Now it is what is 458 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: your pronoun? Not your preferred pronoun. So I was like, 459 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: so just understand, there's been a lot of movement with 460 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: issues in a short period of time. And I was like, 461 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: and I'm trying to catch up and I'm not even 462 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: quote unquote old. So I try and have a little 463 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: grace where it's like, now I'm you're pushing me to 464 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: my limit with this grace and patience and compassion. But 465 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: I recognize for some people this is like a lot 466 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: of movement in a. 467 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: Short period all at once. 468 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, all it feels like all at once. It's like, 469 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: but you know, for my students, this might live reality. 470 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 2: It's like, exactly, it's your lib reality. But I'm I'm 471 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: just being caught up to speed, and some of this 472 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: stuff I straight up didn't know. For some people, we're like, 473 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: how did you not know? But for some people, they 474 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: didn't know, and so now we're trying to get them 475 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: to be Yeah. 476 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: Well, my friend, I want to thank you one for 477 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: your critical analysis, but also for your support and voice 478 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: on this show over the last several years. It has 479 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: been an absolute pleasure and I appreciate your honor. 480 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 2: And you know the beauty of you, and you know 481 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: the public service that you do educating in the public. 482 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: I so appreciate, I respect obviously you're onto bigger. 483 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: Brighter, new things. 484 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five is you know, it's gonna be new 485 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 2: beginnings in the best ways. It's listen, there's gonna be 486 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: one side that's gonna be what is gonna be. But 487 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: like you know, just like in the Disney movies, it's like, 488 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: you know, when you look over it's like Scar lives 489 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: over there, and it's like then it's like Bright and 490 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: Sonny over there. 491 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 3: It's like, I'm gonna choose to live with the Brighton 492 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: Sonny Peace like they can be. 493 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: Over there, one hundred percent. Appreciate you, my friend. 494 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. 495 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: Two more, Timore. That is it for me to day, 496 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: Dear friends, on woke a f as always Power to 497 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: the people and to all the people. Power, get woke 498 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: and stay woke as fuck.