1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: All right, fucking intro we're starting this. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to do an intro for what was 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: maybe one of the worst series we've seen this year. 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: It was tough, it was bad. 5 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: I mean, there's not I mean, there's good things to 6 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: talk about. Christian Scott was awesome. We know that Francisco 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: indors swinging the bat better. There are some things to 8 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: talk about here, but relatively speaking, this is a more 9 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: negative episode than positive. We're still gonna talk a lot 10 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: about Christian Scott because he was unbelievable and I know 11 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: James has been foaming at the mouth to talk about 12 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: this guy because the premonition has finally has come true 13 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: with all the hype and all the excitement, and he 14 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: came up and he just fucking shoved it down the 15 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: Ray's throat. He was incredible. But there's a lot of bad. 16 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: So before do get going into that, makes sure you 17 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: guys follow us on all our social media at mets 18 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: up on Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. 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So 28 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: crazy and ironic that the Mets are playing a series 29 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay the same weekend as the Kendrick and 30 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: Drake beef like hits all time high. It's just an 31 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: ironic level of people who may or may not have 32 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: committed crimes that are undergoing them happening at the same time. 33 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: But I don't think I can I can forget the 34 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: Mets for losing, blowing this game on Sunday and not 35 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: allowing us to like start this episode happy about Christian 36 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: Scott because this is the first time team's been swept 37 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: since the first week of the year. It feels like shit, 38 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that's wrong with this team 39 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: right now, and it's just this isn't like, this isn't 40 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: like a doom mcgloom, like the season's over episode. Of 41 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: course not, because it's like this steal feels like bad play, 42 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: like within the regular ebb and flow of a baseball 43 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: season where we had ten bad games start the year 44 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: that we had like twenty pretty good games. Now we 45 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: just had like ten bad games. Again. We haven't won 46 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: a series since La, which suddenly feels like a very 47 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: long time ago. That was two countries ago for me. 48 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: That was an entire Nick series win ago for the 49 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: whole city of New York. But it's just it feels bad. 50 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: A lot of things are not good, and I think 51 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: that some I think will get better, but some I 52 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to get better. 53 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's start it off with probably the biggest 54 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: issue right now, and that is Pete Alonzo at the plate, 55 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: or as I'm gonna be calling him Peter or maybe 56 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: Pat until he starts to hit like a major league 57 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: baseball player again. But Peter Alonso is just so fucked 58 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: up at the plate right now. He is not not 59 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: playing well at all. And we've dove into some of 60 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: the numbers, there are some underlying things that are concerning, 61 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: I think, to say the least, with Pete, it just 62 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: seems like a lot of it is probably mental and 63 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 2: he's mentally in the wrong spot. I've mentioned it a 64 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: couple times on the podcast before. I think he's trying 65 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: to hit singles way too much, and a couple of 66 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: the numbers do kind of back this up a little 67 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: bit here, But two for his last forty three with 68 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: a homer and his double as his only hits. It's 69 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: fucking bad, man. 70 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: It's so bad. 71 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: This team can't win when their best, second best offensive 72 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: player can't do anything. 73 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: He's colder right now than Lindor once start the year. 74 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: Lindora started the season, I think was five for fifty three, 75 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: which is about one point ninety five average. Right now, 76 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: Pete is two for his last forty three, which is 77 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: what like a point forty seven average. Like, it's just 78 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: it's like shocking how bad he is. It's funny you 79 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: talk about the single thing. We were going through stats 80 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: before the show, just trying to like gather in minds 81 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: and get some stuff for you guys here. But Pete, 82 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: for some reason right now has this right field approach 83 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: and it's not like the right field approach where we've 84 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: kind of felt like a lot of times the Plans' career, 85 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: like when he's driving the ball to that right center 86 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: field spot, like when he's getting it into the gap 87 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: there and over the fence there. It kind of feels 88 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: like that when he's at his best and he's really 89 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: on it, but it's worse than that. Right now, he's 90 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: hitting the ball about ten percentage points higher to the 91 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: oppos field and ever has for full season's career. It's 92 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: almost forty percent opps field right now. He's never been, 93 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: you guys, even gotten out to thirty percentage career, So 94 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: he's pulling it less. He's hitting it up the middle less, 95 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: and even with that approach, it's just he's not been 96 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: I hate when people use the word clutch because I 97 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: feel like the word clutch is kind of kind of thrown, 98 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: like stretched way too thin to describe how players perform 99 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: certain situations, Like I don't think you can really ever 100 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: be clutching like April or may as a baseball player 101 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: like Polanso has played three playoff games his career and 102 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: none of that, but they weren't even actually playoff game, 103 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: so I don't even know if, like if there's any 104 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: clutchs there, but pull it down a little bit. He 105 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: has four hits run to scoring position all year three times. 106 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: In the last four games, Pee Alonso has been at 107 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: the plate with a man on third base and fewer 108 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: than two outs, and he hasn't driven him home. Today 109 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: with a chance to blow the game open, when the 110 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: Mets were on the ball, trying to get it to 111 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: this raised ballpen he had in that bat with the 112 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: bases loathed, and I think it was the first pitch 113 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: of the bat grass right into a double play, and 114 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: it's just like again, I think I think there's like 115 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: there's some some else with that or clutch, but some else 116 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: that are just like situational hitting, and just when you're 117 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: not hitting it all, it's hard to hit situationally. And 118 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: Pete is so lost around even Ron was talking about. 119 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: There was a swing and miss he hadded the seventh 120 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: or eighth inning on just a regular all fastball low 121 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: in the zone, and that's a pitch that Pete usually 122 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: fucking murders and he was nowhere close to his back 123 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: leg flew up, his shoulder flew out, and it's just 124 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: he's sold lot. He's as lost right now he's ever 125 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: been in his career, which is not a great not 126 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: a great spot for this Mets team. No. 127 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: I was looking at the run value charts for him earlier, 128 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: and he is minus six on balls in the heart 129 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: of the zone. Minus six run value on balls in 130 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: the heart of the zone for a guy who is 131 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: one of the best power hitters we have ever seen 132 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: play play first base to start a career right now, 133 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: like we know, he's a fourth fastest player to two 134 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: hundred home runs in Major League Baseball history. So for 135 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: him to have negative six run value on balls in 136 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: the heart of the zone. And for those of you 137 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: who don't know, those are the pitches right down the 138 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: middle of the plate. Those are the pitches you're supposed 139 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: to crush. Those aren't pitchers pitches. Those are the ones 140 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: where the hitters have the advantage. And he's negative six there. 141 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: He just isn't doing anything right. And again I'm gonna 142 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: be anecdotal here before using some of these stats that 143 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure that you wrote down, But it seems like 144 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: Pete just doesn't know what pitches to swing at and 145 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: what pitches to take right now. And then he gets 146 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: behind the count and he's pressing, and I'm it feels 147 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: like the contract is way and heavy on his head 148 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: that he's like, I probably gotta play better I need 149 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: to get my average up because if I can hit 150 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: two seventy, I can get the stupid Los Angeles Angels 151 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: to come in and give me thirty five million dollars 152 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: a year because he's a two seventy hitter who hit 153 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: forty home runs as opposed to a two thirty hitter 154 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: who hit forty home runs. But it's just like everything 155 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: that Pete Alonzo is and does, he's not doing right now, 156 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: and it is absolutely crushing this team, which is just 157 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: it's frustrating because I don't think Pete's bad. I'm for 158 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: sure having lost faith in Peter alons Will being a 159 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: good baseball player. But he's not Pete right now. He 160 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: is not Pete for sure. 161 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: This bit stupid. I'm not gonna acknowledge it's still Pete 162 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: to me. But something that he's not doing right now 163 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: is the fact that Pete was always a very aggressive 164 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: hit there, especially on pitches in his own So seeing 165 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: that negative run value pitches in the heart is bad. 166 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: And it's kind of borne out by the fact that 167 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: he we're seeing he's not making that much damage all 168 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: his opposite field. It's not that much damage on those 169 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: polar rates for his career, it's not that much damage. 170 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: That's one of the lowest heart hit rates of his 171 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: career now by far. Right now, Pete, Pete Alonso usually 172 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: a guy who hits the ball harder almost every single 173 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: player in the league. He's only thirty percent hard hit 174 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: rate in the season. That's eleven percent of all Major 175 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: League Baseball players. That means eighty nine percent of players 176 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: who've made contact with the baseball this year are hitting 177 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: it hard more often than Pete. That's twenty three percent 178 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: heart hit rate over the last two weeks. When he's 179 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: created like this, something else that Pete's not doing that 180 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: he used to do. And this was true last year, 181 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: it's true, get right now he's no longer jumping at 182 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: the first pitch. We don't know if player teams are approaching 183 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: him differently, but he has been downh one this year 184 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: more often he's been up one zero. And his first 185 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: pitch swing gray is also ten percentage points lower, and 186 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: it was during most of his career last year. In 187 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: this year ten percentage points lower, and it was most 188 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: of his career. So something that changed. And another thing with that, 189 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: he's making less contact on pitches in the zone. He 190 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: was usually an above seventy percent zone contact guy, which 191 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: is a great spot to be. That means whenever pitch 192 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: is his zone's main contact with it, it's in the 193 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: sixties right now. While his chase contact is high. You 194 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: don't really want chase contact. Like chase contact is good 195 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: to a degree, but if you're overdoing chase contact, that's 196 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: how you put a lot of the balls weekly in play, 197 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: and that's where Pete is, and that sucks. When this 198 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: cold streak started for Pete a few weeks ago, right 199 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,559 Speaker 1: after the Giant Series, his triple slash was two sixty 200 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: three three forty five to sixteen. It's a very good 201 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: Season's exactly where we want Pete to be. Two sixty 202 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: hitterre with three forty on base five to sixteen slug, 203 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: especially right now when you can say the fact that 204 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: the league wide OPS is like six point eighty that 205 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: was good for like a one to fifty WRC plus 206 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: that eight eight eight to fifty six OPS. That's the 207 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: lead right now as it currently stands, he's two o 208 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: six two ninety five four twenty pi. Alonzo right now 209 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: has an on base percentage under three hundred, which is 210 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: a place that you can never ever ever live your 211 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: p Alonzo. That's I'm not comparing these two players, but 212 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: that's like Chris Davis vibes when you're on when you're 213 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: a big power hitter, but you're on base percentage drops 214 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: that low. That's a player that isn't even a daily 215 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: like everyday player in a baseball liup. And the god, 216 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's peat because Pete definitely is still 217 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: that of course, but that's where that's the trouble you get. 218 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: And that's when, like, if you're a player who doesn't 219 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: have pedigree, you risk going on the bench. And the 220 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: craziest thing about this p Alonzo cold streak and Francisco 221 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: indoors hot streak is right now on Sunday, May fifth, 222 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: as we're doing this episode after the Mets game, Francisco 223 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: Indoor now is a higher batting average in pe Alonzo 224 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: two oh seven versus two o six. And the fact 225 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: that we've swung around and gone to that point and 226 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: it's still only the first week of May. Considering their 227 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: Facisco Endoor five hit since or it's fifty five at bats, 228 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous and it just speaks at how ice cold 229 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: Pete is right now, and it sucks. I don't know 230 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: what it's gonna break them out of it. Everything just 231 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: feels off. I think he just island. This happened last 232 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: time he went to Tampa too, which is weird. Maybe 233 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: he gets a little nervous playing in front of friends 234 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: of family. I don't know what to fix him. 235 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: Pete needs like a vacation. Pete needs to like out 236 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: baseball player. He plays every day. You gotta play, yeah, 237 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: but have you? I mean, even seeing him on the bench, 238 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: like he's just like, he looks confused, he looks stressed out. 239 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: And maybe that's just Pete's normal look of looking confused 240 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: and stressed and not really like what's going on. But 241 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: he doesn't even look like the player that we've seen. 242 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: And again he is struggling, So I understand. I don't 243 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: want to see necessarily him being like happy about him 244 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: being bad. But the same time, it just seems like 245 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: he's a guy who could use use a day off 246 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 2: at the absolute worst. And this is something that the 247 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: Mets just kind of can't do because they don't have 248 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 2: a backup first basement. And I'm not saying that this 249 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: is a fundamental problem with the Mets. But if there 250 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: was ever a time that someone needs a day off, 251 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: it seems like Pete a Lonzo needs one right now, 252 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 2: where like he can just reset his head. I'm not 253 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 2: playing today, I'm sitting, I am watching. This is not 254 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: my fault if the team wins. It's not my fault 255 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: if the team loses. Because nothing is going right for 256 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: and it seems like we don't know Pete. We've spoken 257 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: a couple of times to him, very very nice guy, 258 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: awesome dude, very friendly. But from all the interactions and 259 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: mannerisms everything that we've seen, it does seem like Pete 260 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: lives and dies with his performance, and right now he's 261 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: performing poorly. 262 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: You can even see he did the postgame press conference 263 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: today and he pulled this is I got this from 264 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Meek phil front of the program on Twitter, where he 265 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: just goes, yeah, it's like it's on me. I just 266 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: gotta be better. I know it can be better. I 267 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: gotta be better. And that's just like so reminiscent of 268 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: all the bullshit that sharrees are respewing last year when 269 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: things were just going horribly. It's just it's just bad vibes. 270 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the team has bad vibe either because 271 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: feel like the team more often not this year has 272 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: been like positive and good and like having fun with 273 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: each other. But just something something about Pete I again, 274 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: he goes through cold streaks like this before, and then 275 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: he gets blazing hot. Like I'm not worried about Pilans's 276 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: production over the long haul, it's just inside of this 277 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: thing right now, he's doing things he's never done in 278 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: his career that are giving me five percent more panic 279 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: than I've ever had about the potential production of Pilanzo. 280 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: And also something in the back of every Mets as 281 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: mine right now, the fact that I'm seeing all the 282 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: replies the Mets community is happening on Twitter. He's losing 283 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars with this cold Street ten. 284 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: He's in a spot right now where unless he gets 285 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: ballistically blazing hot, he won't be able to have like 286 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: the three fifty on base, like the five to fifty 287 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: sluck that gets him to like the nine hundred ops 288 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: that gets him the monster contract. And again, we're really 289 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: looking ahead right now, but where does that even We're 290 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: not gonna talk about because May fifth the stile whole 291 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: season to play like I don't even know where this 292 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: puts him for a negotiation right now, Like, how can 293 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: Pelonzo playing like this for two straight years ask for 294 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: three year contract? 295 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: I truly don't know how the Angels and the Rockies factor, 296 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: like just hoping that one of those teams, like, we 297 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: don't care, We're gonna give you the same contract no 298 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: matter what, because we want you. That's the best case 299 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: scenario for him if he continues to play like this again. 300 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 2: We don't think this is going to happen, but we're 301 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: giving you the numbers and the stats to show you 302 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: what's going on. Because Pete made a comment this offseason, 303 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: and this will be the last time I bring it up, 304 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 2: at least in this episode about wanting to be a 305 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: two to seventy hitter, wanting to raise that batting average. 306 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: And I know that like Keith Hernandez and those guys 307 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: loved it, and that's a little bit more of old 308 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: school baseball. But personally, and I think I can speak 309 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: for you too here, James, I don't give a fuck 310 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: what his batting average is. His OPS should be nine 311 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: hundred every single year, and if it's not in the 312 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: eight hundreds at the absolute worst, forty homers one hundred 313 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: RBIs if Peter A. Lonz was taking one to fifty 314 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: and he hits forty homers with one hundred and ten 315 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: RBIs his OPS is eight hundred. I don't give a 316 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: shit how many hits he missed out on, because he's 317 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: doing the job that we need him to. The home runs, 318 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 2: the RBIs the ops getting on base and slugging. He 319 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: seems to have this weird thing in his head where 320 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: he's like, I need to hit a certain average, and 321 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: it's just so bullshit. It's such bullshit, And the opposite 322 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: field numbers are telling you that the weird passivity at 323 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 2: the play, I think is telling me that he's trying 324 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: to be too perfect. It seems like rather than going 325 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: up and just taking some fucking hacks. 326 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: It's also funny that again it's like this. It's just 327 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: like things that people say in baseball that they keep 328 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: learning about other things, Like everyone's like, we just got 329 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: to get Pete the protection Lesce. Jajie Martinez comes in 330 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: this line up like we got it. This cold streak 331 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: started the day that Jadie Martinez came into this lineup. 332 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: That is the day this whole all those stats that 333 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: said started at two for forty three the Friday Nights 334 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: to the Field Jada Martinz's first game, which is like 335 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: the irony of that, which I mean, I like poop 336 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: poo that because all this's been a lot of research done. 337 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: It says like the guy hitting behind you is less 338 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: important than the people hitting in front of you. And 339 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: he has had tons of men on basing this streak too. 340 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: His left on base rate is disgustingly bad. It's like 341 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: he's the four hitter. He keeps coming up with the 342 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: basis low and he keeps not driving in any runs whatsoever. 343 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: But it's just it's funny that he finally has like 344 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: theoretically the best protection he's had in the last few 345 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: years as I met, and he's not doing shit with it. 346 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: Just he I think he will get better. I think 347 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: he probably has to relax, like he's chasing more than 348 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: he has too. I mentioned that it's just maybe they 349 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: mentioned that the chase rates got up over forty percent, 350 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: like as this cold streak has gone too, And it's 351 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: just that's usually the sign that someone's pressing, that someone's 352 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: like not doing something that m's just uncomfortable, someone's a 353 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: little nervous. The pressing chase rate like spanning the strike zone, 354 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: and that's where he is. And I don't think this 355 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: is something that's going to extend forever, but this is 356 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: something that is happening right now. It is really hard 357 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: for the Mets to win when they're number one run 358 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: producer is not producing any runs. 359 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: Need him to be big meat Pete again. He's very 360 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: much just like a shell of himself right now. 361 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: Love Pete. 362 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: I don't I won't say I'm not worried, but I'm 363 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: not scared. I think I'm in the I think if 364 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: there's a if there's a meter, I'm worried, but I'm 365 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 2: not scared. 366 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the panic button is not out, but you've thought 367 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: about it, but not really. 368 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: But also I know where the panic button is and 369 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: and I will use in case of emergency, but I'm not. 370 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm the emergency hasn't happened yet. I'm I still feel safe. 371 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: He needs to go two for his next forty three 372 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: for me to actually be concerned about this, like this 373 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: needs to be This needs to be a four for 374 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: ninety streak. But you know what, guys, we're gonna We're 375 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: gonna do this again because why not we just keep 376 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: doing this next Friday night at city Field Braves Christian 377 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: Scott in the Mounds, like we're giving Pete the lot 378 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: of the biggest fuck is standing ovation we could even do. 379 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna screen balls off, I might bring a sign, 380 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: might take my shirt off and wing it around my head. 381 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring this guy. We gotta be as positive 382 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: as possible for Pete because Pete wears this stuff on 383 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: his shoulders so much. We've gotta we gotta help handle Boo. 384 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: Now we gotta help not handle you guys. Can't give 385 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: him the for statistical indoor treatment that you give him 386 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: when he struggled. Not to the people listening to his podcast, 387 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the greater, the greater, the greater Mets 388 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: fan out there. But just gotta be positive for Pete. 389 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: But there's another problem right now talking to you, Joe 390 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: from Staten Island. Yeah, Joe from mess Up Peak, were calling, 391 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: what's up with this lindoor guy? As you make it 392 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: thirty five million, I feel like he's there and half 393 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: that it's ridiculous. Give more of the teachers in the 394 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: fire fighters. But it's a bigger problem having this mess 395 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: team right now, and it's a problem that I don't 396 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: see any way it gets solved, and it's right now 397 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: causing them to lose games game after game, and it's 398 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: the stolen basis. This is I don't want to exaggerate. 399 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: This is a complete fucking fiasco. It's unspeakably bad. It 400 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: was so apparent to they just be anecdotal about it. 401 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: When it was the third inning, I think the Mets 402 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: had just tied the game or taken lead to they aha, YadA, 403 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: Cabriiro gets one out walk, he the guy some whoever's 404 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: been behind him gets out. We have a pickoff throw 405 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: on him several you know, I thought he nabbed him 406 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: because it was a play where Pete kind of came 407 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: up on the throw, but he got Cabierira's heel and 408 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: before his hand got in. They reviewed it and they 409 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: still said no, And I was like, fucking close one, 410 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: I understand, you can't turn it over. That really look good. 411 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: And then like two pitches late, and then he steals 412 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: second base immediately, and then he scores on a blue 413 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: a giant de Luca bloop, which was good foreshadow and 414 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: gave the Rais the lead in the third ending on 415 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: a giant De Luca Blue good four shining to have 416 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: this game would end. But it's so bad right now 417 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: the Mets, these numbers don't even feel real. We've allowed 418 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: fifty two stolen bases in thirty four games. The next 419 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: team who's allowed the most stolen bases is the Race, 420 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: the team we just played. It's thirty six. It's a 421 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: sixteen stolen base difference, sixteen stolen basse difference. This is 422 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: few teams league that haven't given up sixteen stolen bases, 423 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: one by mind being the Arizon Diamackers. We've given up 424 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: eight all season. Haven't even been sixteen stolen basse attempts 425 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: in the Arizona Diamondbacks this year, and the Mets have 426 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: that more of a gap between them the team that's 427 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: allowed the next most steals. It's shocking. And also we 428 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: played the Races weekend. They've allowed the second most stone 429 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: basis in league. I don't remember stealing very many bases 430 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: at all. I remember trying still very many bases all. 431 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: They've had massive problems with catching between Ben Rotford and 432 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: Rene Pinton, and we did nothing against that. But they're stealing. Yeah, 433 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: Alex Jackson, Now we gave up seven stolen bases today 434 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: in one game against his teams. That Cabiiro had four. 435 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: I know a lot of fancy baseball players out there 436 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: really excited that Cabierro probably shifted the whole category for 437 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: them in one day. And also I went back I 438 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: wanted to see the night. Last time the Mets last 439 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: seven stolen bases in the game, you know what it was. 440 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: You won't believe the game. It was Okay, I'm gonna 441 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: go what with a Noah cyinderguards start. 442 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: No. 443 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: Much more recently than that. It was actually twenty twenty 444 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: three game at City Field, the Mets against the Rays. 445 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: It was the Alvarez Viento's Alonzo home run day. Wow, 446 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: that was a great day. Yeah, a great day. We 447 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: were in the ballparker. I don't think realized were drun 448 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: I don't think realized they had seven steals. But that 449 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: was the last time it happened, and it's happened a 450 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: few times since then, but this is the first time 451 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: this happened. Twenty twenty four team at seven Stone bases 452 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: one game. It's it's fucking shocking. Every single time a 453 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: guy gets on BASI has second all. 454 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: To himself, and I've told you, like when we were 455 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: at the ballpark, I was like, the mess don't hold 456 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 2: runners on well, like I don't think in general like 457 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: I think the middle and fields a little not with that. 458 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: No, there's no bullshit here. 459 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: This is this is the difference for me when you 460 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: play the game and then the missus stattics guy over here. 461 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 2: But yeah, in high school, that's when you hold runners out. 462 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: That's when you learn it. You're like working in and out, 463 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: back and forth. The Mets don't hold runners on well 464 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 2: at all, especially up the middle. No, I'm pushing back 465 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: on that because the Bets are holding runners on the middle. 466 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: It's just the fact that there's a lack of communication 467 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: going on between the pitchers and the fielders and the coaching. 468 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: Right now, that was one time. That was one time 469 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 2: that was more anecdotal. But back to where I'm going 470 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: is the Mets don't hold on runners well. The pictures 471 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: don't hold on runners well, particularly like Adam Montvino slow 472 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: to the plate, Edwin Diaz the slower to the plate. 473 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: All our pictures are really slow to the plate. I 474 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 2: feel like nobody slides steps. I feel like nobody has 475 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: any sort of urgency either and then compounded on the 476 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: fact that our catchers have not been great either at 477 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 2: making even close to good throws down to second base. 478 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: Either. It's it's the fact that we're like every picture 479 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: slow the plate, and how consistently it is against every 480 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: single picture makes me think that it's it's like deeper 481 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: than that, Like we always say that this is about pitchers, 482 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: not catchers the mets of the team, where I think 483 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: it might be a little bit more about the catcher 484 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: because the common thread for a lot of is Zman Devius, 485 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: but again today was again it's also been most Thomas Neither. 486 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: But Tomas Neil has already thrown out two guys this year, 487 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: so I think or three got all three players three. Yeah, yeah, 488 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: I think he has. He's only played like two weeks 489 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: of baseball. But it's just that it makes me think 490 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: that's deep in that, because how can every picture on 491 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: the roster be slow to the plate like I know 492 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: has always had these problems. 493 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: I say that is because I could totally see a 494 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: pitching philosophy where the Mets go, we want you to 495 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: be at your best on every single pitch, almost giving 496 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: up the run in order for you to not slide step, 497 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: to not rush, to not do this or that, because 498 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: nobody does it. There's I don't know any pictures that 499 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: slides steps on the Mets that I can think about. 500 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 2: So it feels like that's almost a philosophy thing at 501 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: this point. 502 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: But this is getting to a point where it's become 503 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: so extreme that maybe if that is the Mets philosophy 504 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: we will know for this or isn't. That has to 505 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: be revisited because as of right now, the Mets are 506 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: on pace to allow the most stolen bases ever ever 507 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: ever in a season where we've tracked what I've got 508 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: some catching stats for you, by the way, to interrupt 509 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: you here, Omar Nervaez is forty fourth out of forty 510 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: eight in terms of pop time to second base on 511 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: average this year. 512 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: The only guys that have been worse are Tyler Stevenson 513 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: dog shit catcher, jose A Travigno, Gold Glover dog shit catcher, 514 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: Victor Karattini dog shit catcher, and kaber Ruiz, who's a 515 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: great hitter, not a good catcher defensively, especially on the 516 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: pop time thing. Framer Omar Nevias is two point zero 517 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: three seconds. That's almost like two tenths of a second 518 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: than the than the top guy, which is crazy. There's 519 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: a huge difference there. Nido is in the middle, He's 520 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: at one point ninety six. He's around guys like Yaner Diaz, 521 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: Danny Jansen. This isn't a good name to be around 522 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: Travis Darno, So. 523 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: Maybe he's not. 524 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: Actually maybe he's still also awful at this too, because 525 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: in terms of catchers, twenty three out of forty eight 526 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 2: is the middle. 527 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: But that's also still not good. So the worst part 528 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: of this is, like, with all this, we've only caught 529 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: three guys. Like teams are stealing against us at will, 530 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: We've caught three guys out of fifty five stolen base attempts. 531 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: That's a ninety five percent success rate for the other team. 532 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: And the third guy was caught on Sunday. I'm ed Rosario, 533 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: and he looked back after it because it looked like 534 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: a very obvious hit and run. He threw him out 535 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: by two steps. He looked at Josee Capier like what 536 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: the hell? So like one of the guys was bullshit. 537 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: Ninety five percent success rate is disgustingly bad. The Red 538 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: Sox having ninety two percent the cub seventy eighty eight percent, 539 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: the Rangers and Cardinals about eighty seven percent. But those 540 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: teams have not allowed fifty two stolen bases. They're in 541 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: the twenties and thirties and stolen base is allowed. And 542 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: I said it before, I'll say it again. We are 543 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: on pace to allow the most stolen bases ever since 544 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: these defensive stats stolen base for teams have been tracked 545 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: that since nineteen fifty six, the most ever. Guys the 546 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: most ever. 547 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, now I'll say this, there is there's a little 548 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: lie at the end of the tunnel whenever Francisco Alvarez 549 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: does come back. He was eighth in Major League Baseball 550 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 2: with his pop time down to second base at one 551 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: point eight nine, which is like very It's up there 552 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: with Patrick Bailey, Gabriel Moreno, Shae Langeliers, Christian Beck like 553 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: some of the guys who have the best arms, best 554 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: pop times. J t ral Muto same spot as him. 555 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: And to be fair, it feels like teams have been 556 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: running a lot more since Alvarez has been gone. And 557 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: you brought up in our bias being a huge issue, 558 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: and the Mets have been playing really poorly since Alvarez 559 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: has been gone too. It seems like this guy was 560 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: a way more vital cog than the team that maybe 561 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: we even thought. 562 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. How many cust stealing the Alvarez 563 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: have this year? I know, don't only three zero, only 564 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: three attempts. Only three attems? Are only three temps relevant 565 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: because the attempts are what's insane? Right now, we're fifty 566 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: two stolen throws. Teams are averaging almost two stolen bases 567 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: of game. I can't even believe it. No one's allowed 568 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: two hundred stolen bases of season since a two thousand 569 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: and one Red Sox two thousand and one Red Sox. 570 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: Even last year in the hyperstole environment, I think the 571 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: White Sox gave up the most. It was one hundred 572 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: and seventy three. So it's been twenty three years the 573 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: team allowed two hundred stolen bases. We're on pace round 574 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: to allow two hundred and for the eight with ninety 575 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: five percent success rate for the other team. It's unspeakable 576 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: how bad this is. And again maybe it is Alvare 577 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: that was a big part of it, But there's also 578 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: definitely gonna be a broader conversation when he gets close 579 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: to coming back, and that conversation is gonna be centered 580 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: around the fact that it's hard to justify roster spot 581 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: for Omar Devius besides his contract, how bad he is 582 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: defensively and how totally not like scary he is as 583 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: a hitter. What what is the argument besides the contract? 584 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: Yick, because at the end of the day, like, yeah, 585 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: we always talked about how cool it is to have 586 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: a left handed hitting catcher, but he doesn't hit, so 587 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: it's like, does it even really matter. 588 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: I joked with you at the game. 589 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: I was like, like having the Mets don't score that 590 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: many runs every game because for the last four years, 591 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: while everyone has DH, the Mets still hit the pitcher 592 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: ninth and that's all Martin Ivas. 593 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: Right now, he's hitting like a pitcher. It's almost it's 594 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: and again when you add on the defense, it's so bad. 595 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: Even the fact that we have this game Friday night, 596 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: the one the game the Mets they didn't get smoked 597 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: the series, but the game they felt like they got 598 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: smoke because they don't want to coming back late. And 599 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it would be a 600 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: great sign for the rest of the series. At the game, 601 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: the Mets were down like eight to three in the 602 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: second inning. They forced the race to use all their 603 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: relief pitchers. But that's the game that if high is 604 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: caught and it's just like, ah, man, wait they start today. 605 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: I think he did started someday. Actually, yeah, he did 606 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: start in something day. Yeah, he did start Sunday. He 607 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: did starts Sunday, And this is a game he threw 608 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: us way off early. Yeah, I mean, it seems like 609 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: there might be a problem here with Warner bias. And 610 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: to be fair, neither of us were particularly excited when 611 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: we signed them. We went, that doesn't really make sense 612 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: to sign a backup catcher ish for eight million dollars 613 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: a year, Like, what what was the thought process behind this, 614 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: mister Billy Eppler. But we weren't allowed to talk to him. 615 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, and I I just think Needo is also 616 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: again defensively just significantly better and hitting not much worse. 617 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: So what's the issue? I don't know why when he comes. 618 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: It also seems like just everyone seems to love need 619 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: though we heard Francisco and Door in the TikTok to 620 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: from the official Mets TikTok channel before the season, he 621 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: was your best friend of the team, Tomos though just 622 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: back in the clubhouse then, yeah, I mean that's also 623 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: probably the problem too though, is that we love Tomasnito 624 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: and he's also bad, like I means, better than the 625 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: other option. Doesn't really matter if objective, it's about what 626 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: else you have in the roster. And also, when did 627 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: Alphareds get hurt? That was the Dodgers series, right, No, 628 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: it was early in that just try the horrible since then, yeah, 629 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: but Lindor has been smoking the ball. He has best 630 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: friends back in the clubhouse. That's true. 631 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I didn't think about that. Hovey Bio's back. 632 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: Where's where's hove Bias? 633 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: Bring them all, get the band back together. But then 634 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: the other bad thing to talk about is again this 635 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: is we did the medium bad thing first, the most 636 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: bad thing, the medium bad thing, and then the most 637 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: bad thing. Now I think this is the least bad thing, 638 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: but still something we have to talked about because it 639 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: happened today. Ed when diasked the weirdness is still weird? 640 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: He had an having today where he blew the safe, 641 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: his first blown save, and like, since I think it 642 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: was May of twenty twenty two of course, skipped the 643 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: whole year, the employees saved the whole summer, the whole 644 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: fall in twenty twenty two. It's also his first save 645 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: appearance of opportunity in two or three weeks, which is 646 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: a weird thing because team actually has kind of been 647 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: winning but not in safe situations. And he didn't throw 648 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 1: any fastballs who raised lineup. That I mean he did, 649 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: but not many he threw. I think he threw two 650 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: total in nineteen or seventeen pitches. Savon had two pitches 651 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: that were unidentified, so that was weird. So I don't 652 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: know exactly where it came out of us. But fifteen 653 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: sliders against a raised lineup, Yes, they struggled a lot 654 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: against that Christian Scott fastball and didn't hit great today 655 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: against Luis Avrena with a heavy fastball die, So just 656 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: it was just probably a comfortability thing. And then through 657 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: seven sliders and rother Randy Rose Range has been having 658 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: the worst year, hit the worst stretch he's had his 659 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: entire career, and the home run barely got out of 660 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: six inches above the wall. Was two hundreds expected batting 661 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: average only home run fifteen out of thirty parks, but 662 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: it tied the game in a game that the Mets 663 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: were just hanging on by a little thread the whole time. 664 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: Five four, five four, five to four. Red Garrett a 665 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: guy on didn't didn't get in, Sean Reid, Foley, Jorge 666 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: Lopez good another good outing by the ball play in 667 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: total giving up. If you have your relievers pitch four 668 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: innings five innings to get one in a run like 669 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: it's not that bad, but it's not good. And that 670 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: fastball has lost life since the surgery. It has two 671 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: less inches or two now technically because Savanta does not 672 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: invert the vertical break. They just do vertical drop, so 673 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: lower numbers are better. If you're like eleven to twelve, 674 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: that's like, that will be a good iv B. But 675 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: where Edwin used to be there at fourteen inches of 676 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: vertical of drop, now he's a six ten inches, So 677 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: there's two less inches in for the vertical break. And 678 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: you mentioned it when we were at the game the 679 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: other day. They're like, what's what's Edwin's IVB? Usually? And 680 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: I was like, usually pretty good. It's usually rag like 681 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: a sixteen seventeen gets to eighteen, like not a leap, 682 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: but still very good to LASSI You're like, yeah, that 683 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: fastball is eleven and twelve. So I was like, oh, yeah, 684 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: so Edwin is not throwing that fastball a lot. And 685 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: this isn't missed by me. I said few weeks ago, 686 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: I thought the slide was looking worse than the fastball 687 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: because I just it seemed fine. But fastball is now 688 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: looking bad and it's clear that he's going away from 689 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: it because the life just isn't there. And when the 690 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: velocity is not over one hundred and the life isn't there, 691 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: now it's the bad spot. 692 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean I didn't like throwing seven sliders 693 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: in the road to Rose Arena too, Like I know 694 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: he is a dead red fastball hitter. That is a 695 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: scouting report on him, but even just like change it 696 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: up a little bit, like you give a guy seven 697 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 2: attempts at the same pitch over and over again, especially 698 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: a major league hit or the quality of Randy a 699 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: Rose Arena, he's gonna hit one, especially when I mean 700 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: Edwin hung that one too. That was just like low 701 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 2: and inside backup slider didn't work, and that slider, like 702 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: what makes these pitches work so well off of each 703 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: other is when he's able to mix them like that 704 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 2: fastball again has never been like the craziest pitch for room. 705 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: It's always been that slider, right. But what made it 706 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: so good was that those pitchers tunnled so well off 707 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: of each other. They moved differently, they had you had 708 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: to think about both. He didn't give it, Randy rose 709 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: raina even a thought about seeing another one, because you 710 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: threw two the entire game and. 711 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: It still barely got out. Like god, damn it so 712 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: like to win that game. I know you changed that 713 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: series though, because you squeak out with the one. We 714 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: can still be positive about Christian Scott and it's like 715 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: the bullpen still again. I know it sucked that I 716 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: will talk about we're gonna move into the now, but 717 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: like Ala Vino, like Blue that Christian Scott win. But 718 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: he still was just like he just got like he 719 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: just always is sweeper happy, like it's a it's a 720 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: feeld pitch. Once we just couldn't throw a strike, and 721 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: I I pissed me off that he was scared to 722 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: throw one. Co Towards the end of that we started 723 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: walking in runs. But the bullpen's still been so good. 724 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: This year has been the backbone of this team, and 725 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: I hate that, like they're being magnified for the blame 726 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: of these losses when it was a couple of cheap 727 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: ot runs in like in a massive, massive weekend for 728 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: them pitching, and it's just still good stuff. But to 729 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: have gotten out off here with one win makes us 730 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: feel a lot different. They get swept, and I think 731 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: Ron said it today in the broadcast, the Met's haven't 732 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: won a game in Tropic Cannon like nine years now. 733 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,239 Speaker 1: I think it was twenty fifteen and twenty seventeen. They 734 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: miswept the last two weeks, sony times they've been there. 735 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: War flashbacks to that twenty twenty COVID UH series out 736 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: in Tropic Canda. I think we're having a party at 737 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 2: our apartment and I remember like going in and out 738 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: watching the game and twenty one. 739 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: I actually don't that was twenty one. Yeah, that was 740 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: like the twenty one season, like right down of tubes. 741 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, I guess I don't remember that well, 742 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: but I just Lee was playing with the broken wrist, 743 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: tried to play through a broken wrist and that killed 744 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: him that season. I think it was also the COVID year. Dude, 745 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: maybe they got they haven't I own the last time 746 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: they won a game here, So that's it. Remember you 747 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: you bunched up with the teams in the East, so 748 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: you we played. I remember, I know that, yeah for sure, 749 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: But no I remember Dave Peterson having a good, good appearance, 750 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: but then they sucked and they couldn't hit and do anything. 751 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: Also, games in the drop are so weird. That's like 752 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: such a bizarre stadium. I don't know about you watching it, 753 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: but it felt like every ball that was hit was 754 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: fucking shit on. 755 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: There was also people lost multiple balls in the lights, 756 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: like a couple of fly balls were dropped by Siri 757 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: and Marte de Marte drop On might think of a 758 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: different series. But also there was a play today where 759 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: cabiiro hit a foul ball off one of like the 760 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: railings on the top and it bounced back into play 761 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: and make Neil caught it, but the yump said no 762 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: because the rail it hit wasn't foul territory. But if 763 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: it hits part of the roof in fair territory, it's 764 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: still fair, so they had to like identify where it 765 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: actually hit if the ball wasn't player Now it's a 766 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: weird place, so they're getting rid of it in a 767 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: few years. I don't think they have a home yet. 768 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: Have they picked a home? But I don't know. It's 769 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: also so the other thing that pissed me off about 770 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: the series of the teams, like everyone was like this 771 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: team sucks. They scored the fewest runs in baseball. They 772 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: just got swept by the White Sox. This is baseball, guys. 773 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: What you do for three games doesn't define your season. 774 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: Just because you get swept by shit team doesn't me anything. 775 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: That's just beat the Dodgers in series two weeks ago. 776 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: How about how good? How good you think they are? 777 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: The Mets this season beats the Dodgers and the Braves 778 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: in series, and where they were gonna eat those words? 779 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: It's playing the Braves next weekend. But like, just because 780 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: we got swept by a team that got swept by 781 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: the White Sox, but then we've beaten the two best 782 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: teams in baseball, Like, what's the transit of the property 783 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: if we're actually good or not? So that was pissed 784 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: me because this is a good baseball team telling you 785 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: the rais or just say they do too much to 786 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: ever actually be bad. And you've talked about this a 787 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: lot that seems like sometimes the Mets are like woefully 788 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: ill prepared, like game plan wise for these games, the 789 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: Rays are not. The praise have a fucking game plan 790 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: every single day. The Rays came out against Christian Scott 791 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: and like we're swinging everyone. Everything's going to be in 792 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: his own raise against them. Against Quintana, they were just 793 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: they were just waiting for those sinkers. They were letting 794 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: the curve balls. They're spitting on those, like waiting for 795 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: the singers, just murdering them. It was just against sever Reno, 796 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: it was a game where he didn't have his command, 797 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: which is like, again, maybe not a game plan thing, 798 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: but oh even against like Edwin, he's been throwing more, 799 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: way more slides in fastballs. They were waiting for those 800 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: sliders and they kept throwing them. So render Rosin winds 801 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: up sitting one their team that relishes the fact that 802 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: they have amazing game planning and are ready game by 803 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: game for everything they're going to see, and they're just 804 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: because of all that, because the team, the roster is 805 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: still good, like they're never going to really be bad, 806 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: but this year might be the worst of the ration 807 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: we've seen in them in five years. So it's like 808 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: a team that again is in the same glut as 809 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: the Mets, in the middle of the power rankings and baseball, 810 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: but just got he got got by them, even with 811 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: two fifty to fifty games, still just frustrating. 812 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: I remember listening to another baseball influencer who said the 813 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: Rays play bad defense and don't base run well. 814 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: And I did not see that this weekend, That's for sure. No, 815 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: they did those. I mean, the series had a horrible 816 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: with a series of center field that guy. Yeah, but 817 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: that's also that's not his fault. It's partially as far 818 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: as to put the ball on your glove. He plays 819 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: there every day. I mean, what are you doing, Harris 820 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: beta L Harris a BANDA A good series out there, 821 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: He's a he's a king. But I'm gonna cut hose 822 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: series slack, especially the seal. The roof is white. That's 823 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: crazy as well that they have a white roof with 824 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: a white baseball being it. That's so stupid. He dropped 825 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: the ball on Sunday and Ron calls rom and be 826 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: taken out of the game. He was like, he can't 827 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: try to catch the ball like that. He's trying or 828 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: maybe that was the one on Saturday. I can't it's 829 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: all blank to get him. He was like, he's like, 830 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: that's the show bow catch. You gotta put your hands 831 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: on that ball. So on, It's like, I wouldn't be 832 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: surprised the manager to take calls his number right now. 833 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think they canna do that wrong. 834 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: But that was funny. But that's enough us being ugly. Yeah, 835 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: anything else, No, I think that was all the ugliness 836 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: were grimed for a half hour. Just now we have 837 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: to get that out. But can we talk about Chritian Scott. 838 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: Now's the time. Yeah, let's let's get positive for the 839 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: last half of this podcast here, because boy oh boy, 840 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: was Christian Scott everything as advertised, maybe even better because 841 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: we actually finally saw it. And especially I'm gonna jump 842 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: the gun here after that first thing, which was a 843 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: little bit tough. That was a test that was you 844 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: talked about the Rays game plan. They knew Christian Scott 845 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: fills the strikes on something that you were concerned about. 846 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: If there was anything about Christian Scott maybe through too 847 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: many strikes, maybe too much in the heart of the zone. 848 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: Even Adam Wainwright, who was phenomenal on the game. Can't 849 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: believe him saying that those words out loud. He was 850 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: the best national color commentator I've seen in a long time. 851 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: He was like, Hm, let's see how the major league 852 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: hitters adjusted that. And the Rays came out swinging, attacking, 853 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: you throw first pitch strikes. We're gonna jump all over it. 854 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: And you saw some guys take some good hacks. Me 855 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: and you even texting each other, it'll being like, uh oh, 856 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: they're swinging. This could be bad. 857 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: And then Christian Scott just got through it, got that 858 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 2: huge double player with Brett Baty and then was just 859 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: so fucking in control the. 860 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: Rest of the game. No, it was like b and 861 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: it was cool that Hefner talked after the game that 862 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: Scott has had these kind of shaky first innings through 863 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: the minor leagues his whole triple A season, and we 864 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: referenced that too. I said a couple of times, like 865 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: he's given up these big home runs in the first inning, 866 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: but he always just seems to settle in after that. 867 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: And then again, what did you see the fly ball 868 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: that was hit? I don't remember. 869 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: I texted you, I texted you, but Jose Siri yet 870 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: the warning track and he like he got pissed. He 871 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: was like fuck, and he thought he gave up a 872 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: home run and it was caught twenty five feet before 873 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 2: the defense, and I was like, that's definitely the fake 874 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 2: triple a ball, like having a PTSD in his head 875 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: because he thought for sure that ball was tagged and 876 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 2: it really wasn't even close. 877 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: No, And I liked the big thing about this is 878 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: that he was like wearing his emotions on his sleeve 879 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: for a lot of this start. Like it was a cool, 880 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: fun mix of like poise with like ten percent cockiness, 881 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: which I think you kind of need as a picture. 882 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: Especially as a picture it's gonna challenge hitters over and 883 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: over again. It's just watching Christians. Guy in this game 884 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: gave me feelings for a Mets debut I haven't felt 885 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: in the over ten years. Cinderguard hard to work, he 886 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: wrote down here on the notes here. I think the 887 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: first thing I wrote was just a conglomination of leathers. 888 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: I just banged my keyboard like four or five times. 889 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: I tweeted I was barking like a dog after one 890 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: of the strikeouts in the fifth inning. And then the 891 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: notes that just wrote sex because I was like this 892 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: everything is everything is like what I thought and more 893 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: like his family was there and said they had fifty 894 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: people in the crowd, which is amazing. His dad talked 895 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: to Ken Rosmenthal, his girlfriend was there. Everything about was 896 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: amazing and it's gotta be a lot of butterflies, Like 897 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: be out there about that close to your home, fifty 898 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: people in the stands, and he was like, I didnt 899 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: even think about it's got to really care. He was like, 900 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: I at least got find by all this stuff. His 901 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: dad was like, yeah, we thought he was gonna be nervous. 902 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like he was nervous at all. But 903 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: even everything about what he did on the mound the 904 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: pitches here, which leaves us to be really encouraged me 905 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: as fans because that first inning was tough, but the 906 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: way he battled against Randy rose Ran, who I know 907 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: has a bad batting average right now, so the bad 908 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: month of the season. It's the best player in this 909 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: race team. He's been one of the best players in 910 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: Major like baseball for the last three or four years 911 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: since he jumped on the scene. Having an eight pitch 912 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: at bad against him, challenging him with fastball after fastball 913 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: on the zone not catching up to him, and the 914 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: eighth pitchers that bad with the bases loaded, gassing him 915 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: ninety six down the middle, daring him to hit it 916 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: and throwing it by him, and the next pitch getting 917 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: a huge tuple of player of Harold Ramirez. Then after 918 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: that shaky first inning, retired twelve raised in a row, 919 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: mowed down that lineup like they were minor league killers. 920 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: It was fucking amazing, And even when guys were getting 921 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: on base towards the end of the innings, even guys 922 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: were kind of like hitting the ball a little bit. 923 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: There was very little trouble. The let three hard hit balls, 924 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: one walk. That was a war of that bad. He 925 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: was again poise confident, just cocky enough to say he 926 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: wants it. He had some funny ass facial expressions on 927 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: the mound too. There was a moment where he was like, 928 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: I had a two strike pitch against Harold Ramirez and 929 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: they like came set and then Ramirez called time and 930 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: Christian Scott just like looked at him and rolled his 931 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: eyes like stuck his tongue out a little bit, like 932 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: kind of just fucking with him. Then came he was 933 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: walking off the mound. He was like saying, let's go, 934 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: like pounding his fist like it was fucking great. I 935 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: think he tried to make a strike three pitch and 936 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: like steal one off the corner because the umpire was horrendous. 937 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: It was giving his foot on each side of the plate. 938 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: He was so bad. 939 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 2: Shout out to him though, helping Christian Scott out a 940 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 2: little bit. But he tried to steal one on the 941 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: low outside corner, didn't get it, and he kind of laughed. 942 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 2: He's like, all right, he got me. Like I tried 943 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: like cap it was for a walk, couldn't get it. 944 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 2: Ended up walking the guy. But everything that he did, 945 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: like the stuff we always knew was gonna be good. 946 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: Adam Waynewright even mentioned he's like, are you just hearing 947 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: his fast his fastball so loud, It's like that's just 948 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 2: ripping through the air, and it was. 949 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: You would hear Adams. 950 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: Into the catcher's mitt and it just it just jumps, 951 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: it jumps out of there. The slider has crazy movement. 952 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 2: Everything that he was doing yesterday gives should be giving 953 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 2: Mets fans just incredible feelings. 954 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 1: I was selling my dad. 955 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: I'm like this isn't I'm not I'm not going here 956 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 2: in terms of player comp but in terms of like poise, mechanics, 957 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 2: the way that he pitched, the way that his body 958 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 2: is built out, it's Jacob de gram Zach Wheeler type. 959 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: Stuff it is. And even with that, like we've called 960 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: him baby Wheeler out here, and the fact he was 961 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: wearing the same numbers Wheeler was kind of like, oh 962 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: my god moment. But Wayne O comped him to carry 963 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: Wood and Adam Adaman went, oh my god. It's like 964 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: it was like, oh shit, now I see a moment 965 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: where it's just like, because carry what was skinny when 966 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: he started that career and it was that big fastball 967 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: slider combination, which is ripping guys apart. But there was 968 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: so many little things that he did in this that 969 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: was like, this is sick picture. Like what you just said, 970 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: understanding that the ump is giving you strikes aren't really 971 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: strikes and putting in that spot over and over again. 972 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: That's insane pitch ability from a rookie you guy making 973 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: his first start of his career, Like that's ridiculous. And 974 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: every single one of his pitches was doing things that 975 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: I was just like instilling tons of confidence. The life 976 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: on the fastball. You just said sixteen inches of invert 977 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: The vertical break was playing up because he has that. 978 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: Really you guys now see him talking about with that 979 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: really flat arm angle, that arm slot where he releases 980 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: it like at his shoulder. It's just like this. It's 981 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: kind of like the famous Bengal Philip Rivers throtemp, but 982 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: he's doing it with a whippy arm action, coming in 983 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 1: ninety six nine seven miles an hour, with crazy vertical 984 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: break on it too. The way it was running with 985 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: him glove side, the way from the right handed hithers 986 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: and into the lefties. It's just like it was like 987 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: coming up on guys, scaring him. I couldn't believe it. 988 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: And then got eight whips and twenty two swings and 989 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: just in the zone with all night that pitch was zone, 990 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 1: like eighty percent of the time guys were even close 991 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: to that pitch. And then the big one is the sweeper, 992 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: a pitch that I have to say he started throwing 993 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: in games for the first time this year a month 994 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: ago spring training. Really was the first time he ever 995 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: actually threw it in the game, and it was his 996 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: only pitch at night with over fifty percent chase rate, 997 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: but it had ridiculous whiffraight on it, and he threw 998 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: some fucking disgusting ones to Cabierro and Harold Ramirez. He 999 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: was throwing some of them, breaking them off inside to 1000 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: the rioties two. Which when he's throwing that pitch eighty 1001 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: five eighty six eight seven miles an hour with that 1002 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: much horizontal movement, it's crazy. And that pitch degraded out 1003 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 1: above average, think five percent better than lea garbage horizontal 1004 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: breaks the fastball three or four percent better in league 1005 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: garbage on vertical break. So those two pitches together are beautiful. 1006 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: And that's the mix that where I was like, this 1007 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: is kind of what can make him a naice. And 1008 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: then he had those gyro slides' just bang right on 1009 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: top of the right handed hitters, just not right on 1010 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: top of throwing like nailing the black over and over 1011 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: again outside in those guys. That pitch doesn't really move 1012 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot. That's the one he got from Scherzer through 1013 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: pitching Ninja. He was just bang, bang, bang, putting it 1014 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: right out there. And the one thing that I'm curious 1015 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: to see in his next star, which I think is 1016 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: going to come fright against Atlanta is how it's gonna 1017 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: hopefully not but it's it's facing lefties. I think this 1018 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: game they only had one or two lefties in the 1019 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: lineup in total. I can't remember who they were, but 1020 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: I remember looking at the live like I was very 1021 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: right heavy lines. It's great for Christian Scott's debut, but 1022 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: I really want to see that because the split change 1023 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: was something that wasn't really working for him. He wasn't 1024 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: really placing him, he wasn't throwing it very often. So 1025 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: I do want to see how he gets the lefties. 1026 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: But everything was awesome and something that was like the 1027 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: main criticism of and Wayne Wright said it. Athletic writer 1028 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: friend of the program Michael Safina was saying it to me. 1029 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: I got an argument with him on Twitter. It's like, 1030 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: you're not you're not speaking facts, right, You're just saying 1031 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: things that you heard people were think he's like throwing 1032 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: too many pitches in the zone. He's not getting enough 1033 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: chases and he has seventy percent zone rate in this game. 1034 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: But you're right. 1035 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: I just like I smacked my mic I tried to 1036 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 2: move something and I just just crushed it. Right now, 1037 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 2: it's fine, but he's seventy percent zone right, which is 1038 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 2: insanely high. Average is like fifty two percent. 1039 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: So he was just throwing like a lot of pitches, right, 1040 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: So I get that's a little weird, but he was 1041 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: still getting tons and tons of chases in this game, 1042 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: to the point where it was way better than the Gavage. 1043 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: I want to find the tweet right now because I 1044 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: was I was on back and forth the selfheno, because 1045 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: he was trying to like tell me, he's not ready, 1046 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 1: he's not ready, he needs to get more chases, whereas 1047 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: I had some po data on this guy. I got, 1048 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling. Bad radio, really bad 1049 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: radio for the year of that. Okay, yeah, I mean 1050 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 1: it's all podcasting radio, it's all the same stuff. Thirty 1051 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: six percent chases overall Christians Scott's pitches in this game 1052 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: that would be in the ninety five percent tile of 1053 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: the entire league. And his sweeper in this one, which 1054 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: is the his chase pitch, because that's his pitch that 1055 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: really moves the most, especially against Rdy' because no left 1056 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 1: season game wasn't really thrown. The split change the sweeper 1057 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 1: had over a fifty percent with Fright. There were only 1058 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: two starters in all of baseball who have a sweeper 1059 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: with a fifty percent with fright. This year's Ryan Weathers 1060 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: and it's Sunny Gray Sonny Gray Noel for having the 1061 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: best sweeper probably right now in baseball. So people saying 1062 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: that he's not getting enough people chases out, that the 1063 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: zone doesn't really have the outpitch yet would have been 1064 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: would have been one of the highest chase rates for 1065 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: any pitcher in the league this year, and one of 1066 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: the best chase rates with rates for a sweeper for 1067 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: any pitcher this year. So both of those things's not 1068 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 1: chase race for sweeper now with rates for a sweeper 1069 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: chase rates. So it's awesome, guys, don't don't be afraid 1070 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: of this. This is this is something really good that's happening. 1071 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: Everything about him mentally physically is perfect right now. And 1072 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: so a couple people are dming on Twitter being like, oh, 1073 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: do you think he's gonna start next weekend against the Braves? 1074 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 1: Like I think they're gonna try and move him around 1075 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: to avoid the braves. I was like, dude, this is 1076 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: the opposite. We need him to face the braves. He 1077 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: is the best picture on this team. It happened instantly 1078 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: right there, fire like Mark Showan for the you two 1079 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: people out there, he's the best picture on the team. 1080 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: I said a couple weeks ago that he's the best picture, 1081 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: starting picture, a healthy picture in the organization, only behind 1082 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: Kodai Sanga. It'd be close, it'd be close. He's that good. 1083 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: He's so fucking good, Like we should be maneuvering the 1084 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: rotation so he faces the braves so we have a 1085 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: better chance to actually win one of those games because 1086 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: he is the fucking truth. And I can't be more excited. Yeah, 1087 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: Christian Scott is awesome. I was. 1088 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: I'm not a pitching guy as much as you, but 1089 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 2: I was giddy watching it, Like me and my dad 1090 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 2: just sitting down and we're watching, like, Wow. 1091 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: This is really easy. 1092 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 2: He's really good, Like there's I don't feel nervous with 1093 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: him on there. The first inning again, it was like, okay, 1094 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 2: all right, let's see how he gets through. Then he 1095 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 2: got through it, and it was just it felt like 1096 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 2: a guy who's in our rotation for years that he 1097 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 2: wasn't making his first start, that this is a major 1098 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 2: league frontline starter, and I couldn't be more excited about 1099 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,439 Speaker 2: what Christian Scott's futures got to hold. 1100 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going anywhere, guys. I think this 1101 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: guy is here to stay for the rest of the time. 1102 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: And seeven funny he's not the first inning, which is 1103 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: like a couple of singles that were just well placed, 1104 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: only three hard hip balls the entire game. It just sucks. 1105 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: He run into the buzz saw that is Zach Lttel 1106 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: who's been unhittable this year, and the Naamavia walks in 1107 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: the winning run, which sucks. When he came out of 1108 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 1: that game, they tried to get him through the seventh, 1109 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 1: they had to come out with two outs and I 1110 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: think left he was coming up or as a man 1111 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: on base, whatever. But I think read Garrett came in 1112 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: right after him and Christian Sean Reed Foley think, I 1113 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: think you might have the reverse. I think, Grett, you're 1114 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: talk about Christian Scott. I thought you meant about Avino 1115 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: coming out of the game. No, no, no, I think 1116 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: Scott really wanted to win and and he he was 1117 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: like on the top step, like just fucking like padded 1118 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: on the thing, being like yeah, when he got that inning, 1119 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: and he preserved the win for him. He didn't let 1120 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: his inherited runners score as well, But just seems like 1121 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: a gamer, seems like a dog. Even today in Sunday's game, 1122 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: when Lindor got pissed at reed Garrett for not doing 1123 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: not looking back now holding Jose Capierra at second base 1124 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: where you're like it was the most emotion we've seen 1125 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: from Lindor in a while, basically since he choked out 1126 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: quick deal Yeah, where he slammed his glove on the ground, 1127 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: screamed out loud. The next inning, Lindor and Garrett were 1128 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: talking about it, and Scott came right over and Lindor 1129 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: brought him into the conversation and they were all having 1130 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: a conversation. But holding on your sons, just love that. 1131 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: People say he's a sponge. Seems very sur cerebral in 1132 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: the way he's picked up these new pitches. The organization 1133 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: seemed like he's very keen on learning and getting better. 1134 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,959 Speaker 1: So just those little things like that are really nicely 1135 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: from a young picture. 1136 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 2: Two questions for you, One you think read garrettoud to 1137 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 2: come out for the next sitting and not on a vino. 1138 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 2: Let's just play Monday morning quarterback here. What do you 1139 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 2: think I mean, yes. 1140 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: And no, I don't know. I was fine with either way. 1141 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: I think that they knew. They probably wanted Read Garrett 1142 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 1: again to be used on Sunday, which he was used 1143 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: on Sunday. He faced the heart of the Order in 1144 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: the seventh inning and got through it, so I think 1145 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: they wanted that. And am Alvian has been like one 1146 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: of the best pictures reallyf pitches. I wasn't really worried 1147 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: about it was it was the first time he's given 1148 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: up any damage since the first week of April, so. 1149 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 2: It's just it was just what would you have let 1150 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 2: him face Austin Shenton after he walked like three straight guys? 1151 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 2: Would you have gone to someone else at that point? 1152 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 2: Or do you think you let him finish it until 1153 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 2: he gives up the lead. I probably would have, just 1154 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 2: because he was nibbling so bad. It was clear he 1155 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 2: didn't have field the sweeper and this was this was 1156 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,959 Speaker 2: a frustrating part for me. I I skipped a friend's 1157 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 2: birthday party to watch Christian Scott, which I'll say that, 1158 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 2: and then by the time I got there, yeah, shout 1159 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 2: out Carly, she was like so drunk she was sleeping, 1160 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 2: but I still got to hang out a bunch of 1161 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 2: other friends. But I did this ending once Christians Scot left, 1162 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm trying to. 1163 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: Make this party. I had Highway on my headphones so 1164 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: my city bike doing this. By hearing that I was 1165 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: just it was just very frustrating. But yeah, I wouldn't. 1166 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: I have no problem trusting him because he's one of 1167 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: the best relievers in baseball this year, like he has been. 1168 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: But just when you're in that inning and you see 1169 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't have feel for the pitch he throws most often, 1170 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: probably should be a little proactive, make the move, but 1171 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 1: Mendoz's hit all the right buttons with the bullpen this year. 1172 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: He probably has a ninety five percent success rate, similar 1173 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: to when Team steal based on the Mets. So I 1174 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: trusted his feel in the moment. Just it was it 1175 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: was just didn't turn out well and then we didn't 1176 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: have enough to come back on him. Little note two 1177 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: from this game. Sean Reid Fully then walked in a 1178 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: run afterwards, and he came off the mound, And I 1179 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 1: gotta say, I love Sean reid Fully. 1180 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 2: I hope he goes nowhere. I hope they keep him 1181 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 2: healthy in the bullpen. He's a psycho. He's actually pitched 1182 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 2: really well as well, Like he's been great. Something that 1183 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 2: you highlighted a lot in spring training is like, oh, 1184 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 2: another possible high leverage arm that we got for basically nothing. 1185 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 2: He came off the mound and screamed, fuck. 1186 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: Me, motherfucker, shit fuck. He just started screaming. I was like, God, 1187 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: I love this dude. He's insane, Like I don't. I 1188 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: don't know if Sean reid Fully is ever relaxed. I 1189 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: might have to throw some bleeps on those for the parents. 1190 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: Watch it listen with the kids on YouTube channel. But 1191 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: I'll throw some bleeps on those ones. But you've said 1192 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 1: we got him for nothing. Do you remember how we 1193 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: got Sean red Foully Steven matts him to make sures 1194 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: and uh Sean ree Fully. Never forget yan Cy. Never 1195 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: forget yan Cy, Never forget Yancy. But last thing I 1196 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: want to talk about is positivity. Just before we move 1197 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: into our everyone's favorite segment, the medium Marvel here, Francisco 1198 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: Lindor has been completely elite since the standing ovation. He's 1199 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 1: got the one sixty w rsit plus and eight fifty 1200 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: oh ps how. 1201 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 2: About that play he made on Saturday with the infield 1202 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 2: in the ground, ball over Brett Bady's head, with the 1203 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 2: infield in backhands it, running towards the outfield, makes a 1204 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 2: perfect right to the chest throw to Tomas Needo to 1205 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 2: get the game go ahead run. 1206 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean shit, you're talking about getting the play. He's 1207 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: still He's just so good. He's so good. He is 1208 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: again it it's we said it. It's obvious. He's gonna 1209 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: drag these stats back up. He's gonna be a top 1210 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty player WAR in the whole league again 1211 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: within a month. The stats are gonna be regular at 1212 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: the ops. I think that WSC plus after Sunday is 1213 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: probably gonna get above one hundred again. And it's just 1214 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna wind up being the exact same twenty thirty 1215 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: percent better league average to play, gold Glove defense, top ten, 1216 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: top fifteen in WAR, just like he has every single year. 1217 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: But some people saw a one sixty five average in 1218 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: the middle of April and freaked out. But no issues, 1219 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: Francisco Indor, He's the man. 1220 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 2: No Francisco Lindor out. I want to run what his 1221 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 2: like one hundreds? What his season numbers would look like 1222 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,720 Speaker 2: right now, so they've played how many. 1223 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: Games have the Mets played With thirty four, it's basically 1224 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: thirty twenty one percent through the season. 1225 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so twenty one percent through the season. Let's just 1226 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 2: do thirty four to one sixty two and then we'll 1227 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 2: divide that by six. He's on pace for like twenty 1228 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 2: five to thirty home runs again with like eighty RBIs 1229 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 2: right now, which like eighty, but we also know the 1230 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 2: Mets haven't really been scoring. 1231 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna go up when he gets hot. 1232 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 2: So twenty five and eighty for a guy who is struggling, 1233 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 2: I don't even care what the slash line says. 1234 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: Again, not really important. 1235 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 2: Sign me up for twenty five and eighty form my 1236 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 2: shortstop with elite defense once again. 1237 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,760 Speaker 1: All good. One of the most trustworthy, reliable, best consistent 1238 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: players in baseball. It's also nice to look like for 1239 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: the rest of the team where he struggles so badly, 1240 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: and he's not throwing helmets, he's not breaking bats over 1241 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: his knees, just constantly, they're doing the right thing, saying 1242 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: the right things, taking plays under his under his wighing. 1243 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: What remember Pete used to break bats over his knee. 1244 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: He needs to do that. He needs to break a bat, 1245 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 1: he needs to throw a moment he's gouta gets some 1246 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: anger out. He seems like he's just pent up. And 1247 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 1: then last thing, shout out this series because we're running 1248 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: run a long. I want, I want to get some 1249 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: time the media marvels because there's some crazy shit. But 1250 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: Brett Batty raise. He has one hundred points with two 1251 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: homer game on Friday, he had another double, he had 1252 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: a couple of their heads, he had a couple of 1253 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: walks WRC plus over one hundred down the season, still 1254 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: playing great defense. Let him ride it out. You guys 1255 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: saw the alec alckbaohlm did four years of being average 1256 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,439 Speaker 1: to blow average. Now he's a great player. Give Brett 1257 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: Baty a little bit of time. Just let him keep 1258 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 1: playing baseball. Don't don't worry about him. Just let him 1259 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 1: be kind of comfortable. If he's kind of bad for 1260 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: a few games, don't get upset about it. Just let 1261 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: this thing ride out. It's okay, Yeah, he's fantastic. All right. 1262 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 2: Now let's get go into media marvels because we've got 1263 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 2: some hot stuff here. First off, being James, I think 1264 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 2: you're gonna be working on the editing for this episode, 1265 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 2: so I'm gonna say the name. You're gonna bleep it 1266 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 2: eyes taking of that. Uh, but uh, the worst Mets 1267 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 2: fan in the world, Frank, you know, the guy's locked 1268 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 2: in right. Oh he's He's the most woke Mets fan. 1269 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 2: He always knows. He somehow went the entire game live 1270 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 2: tweeting on Saturday and did not once tweet about Christian Scott. 1271 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 2: So for those of you who still like this guy 1272 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 2: out there and I don't know how or why whatever 1273 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,720 Speaker 2: you makes you laugh every once in a while, that's fine. 1274 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: I can get behind it. 1275 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 2: But for guy who claims to be a Mets fan, 1276 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 2: he really does love hating this team, and it makes 1277 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 2: you think, is he really a Mets fan? How are 1278 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 2: you not praising how awesome Christian Scott is. I think 1279 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 2: it took his postgame weirdo rants that he does where 1280 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 2: he starts drooling and biting his T shirts and acting 1281 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 2: like someone who's two or three years old. I think 1282 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 2: that was the first time he mentioned Christian Scott might 1283 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 2: be the only time he's actually mentioned him. 1284 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,760 Speaker 1: It was the only time because he said that amount 1285 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: of you know, Blue Christian Scott's debut, but in the 1286 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,439 Speaker 1: whole game worth of live tweets, he did not mention 1287 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 1: Christian Scott's name one time, but he kept talking about 1288 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: how bad Jeff mcgial's, which we didn't we didn't talk about. 1289 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: We still think jeffman gill's not playing really well right now, 1290 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: but again I didn't want to make it things seem 1291 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 1: like we just totally glossed over that he is playing poorly. 1292 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: But again, for someone who claims to be this massive 1293 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,720 Speaker 1: Mets super fan, it's like, I don't know quasi content 1294 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,879 Speaker 1: creator to not mention the guy's name making his major 1295 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: league debut, who was completely electrifying, who took over every 1296 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 1: besides for Kendrick Lamar, he took over the internet for 1297 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: my timeline on a Saturday night, My Mets timeline a 1298 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: Saturday night, it's it's fucking malpractice and asks, well, now 1299 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: what go back to. 1300 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,879 Speaker 2: All the things that we say though negative Mets gets 1301 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 2: clicks For Frank sure, his brand is to be negative. 1302 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,359 Speaker 2: And if you guys haven't realized that yet, the Mets 1303 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 2: being good kills this guy's whole thing. It kills his shtick. 1304 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 2: He wants the Mets to be as bad as possible. 1305 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 2: Remember that, Remember that as a Mets fan, if you 1306 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 2: support this guy for in what he does, he wants 1307 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 2: the Mets to be as bad as possible because that 1308 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 2: keeps him alive. But as soon as the Mets franchise 1309 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 2: organization team turns around, this guy's dead. 1310 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:34,439 Speaker 1: It's over. 1311 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,280 Speaker 2: Nobody cares about him because then he's just this fucking 1312 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 2: loser who's yelling about a team who won one hundred 1313 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 2: games like they were in twenty twenty two. It took 1314 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 2: Buck Showalter screwing up the NLDS or wild card didn't 1315 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 2: choke in the last month of the season for the 1316 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 2: him to keep alive for that year. Like he doesn't 1317 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 2: want the team to be great, never has, never will. 1318 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: No, it sucks, but that's I don't want to give 1319 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: any more creens that. I don't want to mention it 1320 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: any more than that. But that's what we're gonna do 1321 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 1: it now. Another thing happened, This was Mark. Mark caught 1322 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: this during the game. So tell us what Adam Amon 1323 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,240 Speaker 1: said on the Fox Bronx. 1324 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 2: So, yeah, first off, I didn't know that Tropicana Field 1325 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 2: was a stadium before the Rays got in there. Crazy 1326 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 2: to me that things were happening in that awful stadium, 1327 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 2: and then the Rays were like, actually will play there. 1328 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 2: Apparently they were trying to recruit the White Sox and 1329 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,280 Speaker 2: the Giants at the time were considering moving to Tampa 1330 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 2: Bay said never mind. The Rays end up being an 1331 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 2: expansion team. Rays became an expansion team. I believe it 1332 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 2: was nineteen ninety eight, Adam Amen. They were showing the 1333 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 2: clips and the pictures of different things going on there 1334 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 2: goes Yeah, I was calling high school football games in 1335 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 2: this stadium before the Rays ever stept foot in it. 1336 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: Adam Amin was born. 1337 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty six, so that means he would have 1338 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 2: been twelve years old or younger calling high school football 1339 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 2: games in Tropic Caanna Field. Oh here's the craziest twist. 1340 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 1: Not the age. 1341 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 2: He grew up in Chicago, Illinois, went to Valparaiso. He's 1342 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 2: never left the Midwest before. He was an analyst on TV. 1343 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 2: Just straight up lied. I'd bean like, I had no 1344 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,320 Speaker 2: problems with it. I just thought it was funny. I 1345 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 2: was like, this guy just lied on national TV for 1346 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 2: no reason. 1347 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,879 Speaker 1: It's insane. As for Valprais or Max from Valprais, that's 1348 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: insane that you just said Valprais. I never thought I 1349 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 1: was gonna hear about the city again. It has also 1350 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,399 Speaker 1: Sean fucking and I is from there, of course, but yeah, 1351 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 1: you caught that. That's ridiculous. And now the last media 1352 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: marvel this week, werena spend a little time by this. 1353 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: We told you guys we could want to talk start 1354 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 1: talking about a little more baseball outside the Mets at 1355 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,919 Speaker 1: least a few minutes every single week when we do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1356 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,879 Speaker 1: at the end. But yeah, if you get to this point, 1357 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: you probably like us. Anyway, Luisa Rias was traded over 1358 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: the weekend, and Luise A. Rias is a lightning rod 1359 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: for baseball debate. If you tweet about Luisa Rayis's name, 1360 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: whether he's good or bad, you're getting crazy engagement. It's 1361 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: the best. But so he got traded over the weekend 1362 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 1: from the Marlins to the Padres. Incited the media. Friends. 1363 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,359 Speaker 1: He was traded for a couple of minor leaguers, none 1364 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 1: who were ranking the top one hundred. But Dylan Head, 1365 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: who's a first round pick, who's a big, big time athlete, 1366 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: looks like he has a lot of potential, but a 1367 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: long way to go. And Jacob Marci, who is your boy? Yeah, 1368 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,919 Speaker 1: he was crushed the Fall League last year, having Dice 1369 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 1: League steal some bags. Ousukoh my other guy big time, 1370 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: A good solid quality reliever, a good big big James 1371 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: trade here. But the the the discourse around Louise Rise 1372 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: is ridiculous because people had this trade being like, oh 1373 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,879 Speaker 1: my god, padres Fleet's job. They gave up a bunch 1374 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: of prospects who were not ranked the top one hundred 1375 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: for like the best hitter in baseball. And I think 1376 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 1: that Louise Riise is a good baseball player, is a 1377 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 1: very solid baseball player. But I think what he does 1378 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: and this is kind of gets kind of roped into 1379 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: the Jeff McNeil conversation. If you're a batting champion, I 1380 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: don't think it means as much in the modern game 1381 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,840 Speaker 1: as we used to think it means. And this was 1382 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: exasperated no more than one of the worst general managers 1383 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: the history of baseball, Jim Bown, who's also somehow now 1384 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: become an even worse content creator for the Athletic. He 1385 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 1: said in an article or a video or his podcast 1386 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: or I don't know where it was, but I saw 1387 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: the tweet the quote on Twitter that Louise a. Riaz 1388 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: is a combination of I think he said the best traits. 1389 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 1: Is that what he said? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. 1390 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 1: I think it's along the lines of that. Yeah. He's 1391 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: a combination of all these guys best traits, the best 1392 00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: traits of Tony Gwinn, Rod Carew and Wade Box. He's 1393 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: three Hall of Fame baseball players. These are three of 1394 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 1: the guys with some of the best hit tools of 1395 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 1: all time. I think the American League batting title is 1396 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: named after Rock Carew. Tony Gwyn has stats that will 1397 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: boggle your mind every single day, and Wade Bogs drag 1398 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: one hundred beers in across country flights from Boston Seattle. 1399 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: It's like Anta Fu Chicken and a chickens the Chicken Man. 1400 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: He's a three Hall of Famers. Luisa Rian objectively has 1401 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: had like two good years in his entire major league 1402 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: baseball career. What the fuck are we doing comparing this 1403 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: guy these guys, and every single old baseball rider is 1404 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: drooling over him, and then everyone who goes on statcasts 1405 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 1: like he's fine, He's okay, He's totally a good ball player. 1406 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: But what are we talking about. 1407 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's really good at hitting the ball 1408 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,959 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty to two hundred and twenty feet 1409 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 2: in between the shortstop and the left fielder, really good 1410 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,399 Speaker 2: at that, and he has value when he is hitting. 1411 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 2: But the problem with Louisa Rise when like you said, 1412 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 2: we've seen with Jeff McNeil is that when things go poorly, 1413 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 2: there's no way out. And as we've seen with Jeff, 1414 00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 2: we don't know there's a world where jeffan neil stars 1415 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,399 Speaker 2: to get hitting. And besides getting lucky, and Luisa Rise, 1416 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 2: for lack of better terms, has just kind of been lucky. 1417 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 2: Like he chases, had a historically bad rate, historically bad, 1418 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 2: and yet those balls fall for hits they shouldn't. There's 1419 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 2: no reason he doesn't hit the ball hard, he chases 1420 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,800 Speaker 2: bad pitches. Yes, he doesn't swing and miss, but he 1421 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,879 Speaker 2: also doesn't walk. There's nothing really that tells you why 1422 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 2: Luisa Rise hits three twenty besides the fact that he 1423 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,439 Speaker 2: hits it where they ain't, and that comparing him again 1424 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 2: to Tony Gwyn, Rod Caru and Wade Boggs, who I'm 1425 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 2: sure would get lost in the shuffle, probably wouldn't be 1426 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,839 Speaker 2: appreciated as much if they played right now. But those 1427 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 2: guys also were elite baseball players. They were some of 1428 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 2: the best players in the leagues during those times. Like 1429 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 2: Tony Gwinn. Let's just remember Tony Gwinn was also a 1430 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 2: goal glove outfielder who ran like the wind for a while. 1431 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 2: Was an incredible outfielder, cannon of an arm, Rod Caru 1432 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 2: playing second base up the middle, good defensive glove up 1433 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 2: the middle, slapped the ball around the field. The game 1434 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,240 Speaker 2: was different then. But like Luisa Rise being like those guys, 1435 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,800 Speaker 2: I just don't see. He's a dh I R I 1436 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,360 Speaker 2: said three good seasons. If forgot when he came up 1437 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 2: a twenty nineteen and he had those ninety games, he 1438 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 2: was also great. 1439 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,799 Speaker 1: But where he one thirty WRC plus. Yeah, last year 1440 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: one three WRC plus, the year before that one three 1441 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: WRS plus. He's had three seasons where he has been 1442 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 1: well above average hither and he's valued for a baseball team. 1443 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: The thing that again I gets lost in everybody you 1444 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 1: just mentioned it, he's a bad defender. He can't doesn't 1445 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 1: have a defensive home. So now you have a guy 1446 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 1: who can't play defense and doesn't hit home runs. He's 1447 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: zero home runs right now in May zero none. He's 1448 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: also stole zero basis, so he's just a bunch of singles. 1449 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: It gets working because he gets on base liized is 1450 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: the three sixty on base percents right now. But it's 1451 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: just like again, they didn't really trade that a ton 1452 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: to get him. They traded something to get him. Is fair, 1453 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: but just feels like team like the Padres that right 1454 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 1: now is trapped in the fact that Jake Cronewards has 1455 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: a lot of power, but he's like a first basement 1456 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: second basement DH that like usually is not elite. Hither 1457 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: he's playing hitting elite right now. I think it's a 1458 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,439 Speaker 1: lot of it's real, but it's not that he's fine. 1459 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 1: Sander Boguards again, aging like the Milks got to be 1460 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: one of the worst contracts in baseball. So happy to 1461 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: be in the right side of history on that one. 1462 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: That guy is fucking a true They moved him from 1463 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: short stop second base already because he's not a good 1464 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: defender either, and now they're moving from the second base 1465 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 1: to DH. He's him into the Louis Rise are gonna 1466 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: alternate second base in DH. It's two guys who again 1467 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 1: arises is a solid, solid baseball player, and he's probably 1468 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: at least just gonna to give that lineup some consistency. Exase, 1469 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: that's the thing it lacks better than Tyler Wade. Yeah, 1470 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: like maybe a fit for that Padres team is not 1471 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: that bad of a thing. But it's just people talk 1472 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 1: about him like he's like this generational talent just because 1473 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 1: he has a high average in age when nobody has 1474 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 1: high average anymore. But maybe people should be like, oh, 1475 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: maybe high average. Maybe people players don't have high average anymore. 1476 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 1: You don't even care how high average anymore. Guy's playing 1477 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: like shit right now. But Pregnant said this an interview 1478 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. Its best, He's never He was like, 1479 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 1: I could hit three hundred with twenty homers, by'd way 1480 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: rather hit two fifty with thirty five homers. He's like, 1481 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 1: it's just it's better for my team, it's better for me, 1482 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: Like everything about that is better, And I only I 1483 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 1: don't know the way that the Riot has become this 1484 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 1: lightning rod. And for Jim Baden to compare him to 1485 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,920 Speaker 1: three fucking Hall of Famers as a twenty seven year 1486 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: old who can't play defense, it's just it's crazy than me. Now. 1487 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the tweet from Danny Veedi, 1488 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 2: CBS guy friendly with me, so I got nothing bad 1489 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 2: to say about him, but he put. 1490 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: Out like a class idiot, good good bait tweet where 1491 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 1: it was. 1492 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 2: Louis Arias had basically like the same batting average, on 1493 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 2: base and slugging as Tony went through like their first 1494 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 2: five seasons. 1495 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, it ain't the same though, guys, it's not 1496 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 1: the same. 1497 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 2: Like technically speaking, yes, but also like no, because now 1498 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 2: now the comparison is Tony Gwinn to Luis Rii is 1499 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 2: not the first five years of Tony Gwinn to Luis 1500 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 2: a Rise's first five years. 1501 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: Again, like, if Luisa Riya has done this, does this 1502 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 1: what he's doing now for the next ten years, I 1503 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 1: will eat my words. I will have been incorrect me too, 1504 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,919 Speaker 1: I'll eat my pants totally. That's fine, But you can't 1505 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 1: just you can't just do this for five years and 1506 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 1: have fucking no defensive value. You can't do this with 1507 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: no defensive value and expect to be like this highly 1508 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 1: value baseball player. And the big thing that always comes 1509 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: back to Louisa Rise is the famous trade for Pablo Lopez, 1510 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 1: where has become a frontline pitcher right now for no money, 1511 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: for no money at all, He's on a great contract, 1512 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 1: and people still act like, oh, that was a fair trade. 1513 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 1: No Rises, how a player. Rise was a trade for 1514 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: three players, the high value of which is still in 1515 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 1: low way. The guy who's close to the major league 1516 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 1: is still probably want to step away in Jacob Marcy, 1517 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 1: who's probably a find baseball player, but it's probably not 1518 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 1: gonna be more than like a defensive first center fielder 1519 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: who can slap the ball, run a little bit. If 1520 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Paba Lopez got traded right now, it would be a 1521 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: historic callback for him. It would be like it would 1522 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: be more than like the Luis Castillo trade from a 1523 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 1: few years ago, Like you'd get back an upper levels 1524 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: minor guy who's probably a top fifty prospect, probably another 1525 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: top hundred prospect, and probably another young guy who's probably 1526 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 1: a top two to fifty prospect with expectations after are 1527 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 1: going to rise quickly. Loose Rise just got trade for 1528 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 1: zero and zero of those things. The value of those 1529 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: two players is so astronomically, catastrophically different, you can't even 1530 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 1: compare with someone who you're comfortable starting the first game 1531 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 1: of playoff series for. It's the guy that you hope 1532 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: hitch two singles tomorrow. And did you see what Peter. 1533 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 2: Bendix, their president of baseball operations at the Marlins, was 1534 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 2: that we basically got an offer that we could not 1535 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 2: refuse for a guy that we thought was gonna be 1536 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 2: almost impossible to trade as we got deeper into the summer. Like, 1537 01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 2: if he's this great of a player, if he's the 1538 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 2: next Tony Gwyn, why were people not making phone calls 1539 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 2: to get him? If he was this highly sought after player? Again, 1540 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 2: he is not bad. He is a good baseball player, 1541 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 2: a baseball player. 1542 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 1: I won't deny that. 1543 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 2: But he was gonna put in the top fifty players 1544 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball rankings going into the season, ahead 1545 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 2: of guys like can Tell Marte. Like, get the fuck 1546 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 2: out of here. You think he's better than can Tell Marte. 1547 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 2: That's insane. 1548 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 1: Even if Luisa Rias could play corner outfield defense like 1549 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Stephen Kwan, he would be a remarkably more valuable player. 1550 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 1: Even if he could play second base defense like Jeff 1551 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 1: McNeil in his hey day, Like, yes, he'd be a 1552 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 1: remarkably valuable player, but the fact that he offers no 1553 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 1: defensive value whatsoever and doesn't hit home runs, I just 1554 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 1: how could There's probably a hundred players would take Major 1555 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: League Baseball over him. Again, he's still find player. He's 1556 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 1: still probably gonna be like a two to three four 1557 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 1: win player here and there when he has this really 1558 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 1: good season, and if he does this for the next 1559 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 1: seven years, I'm wrong, I'll eat my words. But he 1560 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 1: got traded one year apart for a frontline starter and 1561 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,919 Speaker 1: now for a conglomeration of minor league players who don't 1562 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 1: really have star potential. So it's hard for me to 1563 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: see that as commensurate value. Yeah. 1564 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 2: No, it was getting blown completely out of proportion of 1565 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 2: who the player that Luis Raya is is and who 1566 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 2: the player that the Padres are getting. It was being 1567 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 2: treated as if they just made this move that's gonna 1568 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 2: make them the best team in the Nation League West. 1569 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they got rid of Wan, so though 1570 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 1: they replay some loose riah, so wash dude, that's that 1571 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 1: was the whole thing to him, Like, you guys trigged 1572 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 1: away Wan Soda so you can have Luisa rise what 1573 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: Like that doesn't make sense to me. So also, he 1574 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 1: can't Louise Rice can't have much team control. Right, he's 1575 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: been the Major League of five year and a half. 1576 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 1: Year and a half, I think now I will say 1577 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 1: he's free. The Marlins are paying everything up to the 1578 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 1: league minimum, so he's free. That that move financially makes sense. 1579 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 1: That's a good move financially. But like, I don't know. 1580 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 1: He went four for four in this debut. 1581 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 2: Everyone was tweeting me, you're an idiot, And now he's 1582 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 2: gone what you're talking about? And they went one one 1583 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 2: for five today and nobody said a word. It's like, 1584 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 2: that's what happens when you hit the ball soft again. 1585 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 1: I think he's always gonna be a good hit what 1586 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 1: he's done now because it been years and years and 1587 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: years of doing it. Like he'll have an ops in 1588 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 1: the ear eight hundred, Yeah, totally, I'll have the average 1589 01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 1: in three hundred. He's like the worst defender in baseball. 1590 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 1: He's worth negative eight out above placements year, is the 1591 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: worst in baseball right now, Like if he was doing 1592 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: this again with even average defense, he'd be so much 1593 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: more valuable. He's just not And people sometimes forget about 1594 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 1: how important defenses in baseball, but very very important. One 1595 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: guy who who forgets about that too. You got in 1596 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 1: a spat with I want to do this for five 1597 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: minutes before we do our preview of the Cardinals series. 1598 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: But we had a battle of Mark versus Eric Hosmer 1599 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter, which is a lot of Mets fans out 1600 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 1: there were probably like, fuck, yeah, kill Eric Osmer, but 1601 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 1: Mark went towed toe with him a couple guys in 1602 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 1: the baseball media space and it was hilarious because Osmer 1603 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: seeing I think a little above himself in Luis Arias 1604 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 1: loves Luise Arias. Of course. Yeah. 1605 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 2: He quote tweeted about Peter Bendix again the pobo of 1606 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 2: the Marlins, being like, we're not going to make the 1607 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 2: playoffs this year. It was unlikely, and he's like you 1608 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 2: inherit a young team who made the playoffs, have a 1609 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 2: second year manager, manager of the Year last year, and 1610 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 2: we come in and blow it up immediately, bold strategy, 1611 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 2: and it was like, first off, the Marlins were so 1612 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 2: fake last year. Everybody knew what everybody in the world 1613 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 2: was like, this team is not a playoff team that 1614 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 2: I think a negative seventy run differential or something like that. 1615 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 2: Last season and by the way, he didn't do that 1616 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 2: to start the season. They're nine and twenty six. Like 1617 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 2: he saw it and went, shit, Okay, the magic's over. 1618 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,960 Speaker 2: We gotta start this thing over. Didn't You didn't inherit 1619 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 2: a young team either. By the way, Tim Anderson is 1620 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 2: the starting shortstop for the Miami Marlins. Josh Bell is 1621 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 2: playing first base. This isn't a young team, like they 1622 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 2: have young players, but in terms of like actually young 1623 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 2: good guys, there's not many on this roster, so it 1624 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 2: was getting blown out of proportion. I told him that 1625 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 2: he was wrong, that it was a fluke. I said, 1626 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 2: anyone with a brain knew they were gonna struggle this season. 1627 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 1: That got him. 1628 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 2: I knew that was gonna get him too. When I 1629 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:39,959 Speaker 2: said anyone with a brain, I knew that was gonna 1630 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 2: make Eric Osmer that idiot. But he actually followed me back, 1631 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 2: and then I found out he unfollowed me. So that's 1632 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 2: why I'm coming back at you, Eric Cosmer, you little bitch, 1633 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 2: don't unfollow me. 1634 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 1: I could have helped you. 1635 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 2: You have a fucking sports media thing that has like 1636 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,920 Speaker 2: two hundred followers on Twitter. I will love to collaborate 1637 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 2: it with you, but now you think you're too big. 1638 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 2: You big league me a little bit here, you followed 1639 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 2: me back and then you did. But more all of 1640 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 2: the story is Eric Cosmer don't know ball and that's 1641 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 2: why he's not playing anymore totally, and. 1642 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,600 Speaker 1: He just totally neglected the fact that the Marlins have 1643 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 1: lost their two best pitchers, Sandia Contra and Eerie Perez 1644 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,600 Speaker 1: and his Souzar has been the al for two weeks. 1645 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 1: And Tander Scott had a legendary season last year. Now 1646 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 1: we can't find his strike zone. End a. J. Puckle 1647 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: was one of the best relievers last year that I 1648 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 1: tried to make him star there. Now he stinks. And 1649 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:20,959 Speaker 1: Jake Berger, who was like one of the best seeners 1650 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 1: last year for no reason after the trade dead line, 1651 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 1: also is hurt on the IL teams, and Chambers and 1652 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: jas chishm is playing like dog shit, like the team sucks. System. Yeah, 1653 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 1: so again I think credit to Peter Bendix for having 1654 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 1: just like not not not going with sun cast fallacy, 1655 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 1: realizing how the season was lost, totally lost. People like 1656 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 1: how could you say this? Like fucking watch the team play, 1657 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 1: They're horrible, and again like maybe they could have grind, 1658 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,960 Speaker 1: maybe they could have grinded their way to being five 1659 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 1: games out in August. Like maybe that's a good baseball etiquette, 1660 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,920 Speaker 1: but it's also like, I don't know, is that really 1661 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 1: worth it in the end? Mets fans, how happy are 1662 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 1: we when we sold last year and how great that 1663 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: wound up for us? So it's just good, good on 1664 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 1: him for doing that. He's getting murdered right now by 1665 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 1: the Marlins fan base and he sold to those idiots. 1666 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,600 Speaker 1: We gave them David Robertson, that give us Marco Vargas. 1667 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But so again, it was just 1668 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 1: a funny thing where like you see the two schools 1669 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 1: of thought of like baseball, let go against each other. 1670 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 1: And I'm very interested. I again, I'm not really guess 1671 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: Louise rise Again. I still think it's a good baseball. 1672 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,439 Speaker 1: It's just the way that he's regarded and the fact 1673 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,439 Speaker 1: that he was traded for Pabo Lopez was a fucking ace. 1674 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 1: It's just it's crazy to me. And I'm excited to 1675 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:18,880 Speaker 1: see how these next like five to seve years playoffs. 1676 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 1: I want to see if he is Tony Gwen or 1677 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 1: Jeff McNeil. 1678 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, those are very two different players. God damn it, 1679 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 2: Jeff played better. Please please Jeff. It's still roof for 1680 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 2: Jeff ruf Jeff hard as fuck. 1681 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 1: But now preview, keep it short, Yeah, keep it really short. 1682 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 1: We're going to Saint Louis, home of metro Booman, shoutout 1683 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,200 Speaker 1: metro Booman dog. But it sucks. We still don't have 1684 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 1: an off day. We have to play three more games 1685 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 1: until we get the off day on Thursday before the 1686 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,480 Speaker 1: Brave Series. But pitching matchups this series as they are 1687 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,400 Speaker 1: right now, seven forty five stars to this series, so 1688 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 1: that kind of sucks a little bit. Losing hours sleep 1689 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Mets fans. But another ninety two mile an hour off 1690 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 1: Sean and I versus Kyle Gibson Monday night. Hell yeah, 1691 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a slugfest. Jose Boudo versus Miles Miles 1692 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 1: Melas the return the Redemption match right there. Yeah, it's 1693 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 1: gonna be huge Tuesday night, and then Wednesday Mattine another 1694 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 1: not great matchup that we already just saw. It was 1695 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 1: a Cano versus Sunny Gray. I believe how much we 1696 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 1: have I don't know much. We have to preview the 1697 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: series because we just played them a week ago. They 1698 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: are the same team. They're not playing any better. I 1699 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 1: would love to win two out of three and get 1700 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 1: the show back in the road. They just lost a 1701 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 1: series to the White Sox, and right before that they 1702 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,760 Speaker 1: lost the series to the Tigers, So it would be 1703 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 1: really nice to beat this team. Yes, it would be, 1704 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 1: especially in Saint Louis for the best fans of baseball. Yeah, 1705 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 1: but again, just play them. Don't know much else about them, 1706 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,240 Speaker 1: There's nothing much to talk about. There's still the horribly 1707 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 1: run dogshit organization, so we gotta take it to them 1708 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 1: because we have to get revenge and lose that series 1709 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 1: at home. 1710 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 2: Yes, Now, if you guys have made it this far, 1711 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,640 Speaker 2: this would be the time where we check to see 1712 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 2: if we have any new reviews. I am not seeing 1713 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 2: any new ones for this past episode, which is okay, 1714 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:54,800 Speaker 2: that's fine. I mean we're going on an hour and 1715 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 2: ten minutes here, But James will take a look. 1716 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm checking real quick because I think the Apple updates 1717 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,919 Speaker 1: faster than where you check. But yeah, good radio, good radio. 1718 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: I think you guys are sticking with us for having 1719 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We've been having fun, right, you 1720 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: guys have been like so cool with us we've been 1721 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 1: We've been going wild the last couple of weeks and 1722 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 1: you guys, it's it's been done. What's going on? So 1723 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:14,960 Speaker 1: the last review, yeah we got we got a new 1724 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 1: one from Friday been uh and from Tuesday we ready 1725 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:21,920 Speaker 1: we did the one from Tuesday Zechonsalas, but new one 1726 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 1: from Friday from Dougie d Shout out you, Dougy d 1727 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,800 Speaker 1: been a Mets fan for twenty years. I'm glad I 1728 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 1: found this podcast a few months back. Cool that we 1729 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 1: keep getting new listener. It's amazing that we had the 1730 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 1: backing of a multi billion dollar organization for years. It 1731 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 1: didn't seem like we got it. We didn't even get 1732 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,840 Speaker 1: a commercial on TV. Yeah no, Now suddenly we're doing 1733 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 1: this ourselves. We're saying curse words and we're talking shit 1734 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 1: and that we keep we keep growing. We keep getting 1735 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 1: more and more listens, which is dope. But James and 1736 01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 1: Mark keep it real while also showing their excitement as well. 1737 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 1: Love the deep dives in a farm system too always 1738 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,640 Speaker 1: gets me so pumped the future after each listen, Keep 1739 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 1: up the great stuff, fellas, Let's go Mets. Shout out you, 1740 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 1: Douggie Dee. Appreciate that we will keep up the great 1741 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 1: stuff and donpe that you guys love all the farm 1742 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 1: system stuff, because that's something that again, Mark and love. 1743 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna try to do it every single episode for you, 1744 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: every single week for you guys. 1745 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,720 Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys for listening and watching. If you made 1746 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 2: it this far, you guys are the real ones. Make 1747 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 2: sure you're following us on all our social media at 1748 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,640 Speaker 2: mets up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. Subscribe to the 1749 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 2: mets up podcast YouTube channel for the video version of 1750 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 2: this and if you're listening to us Apple podcasts, Spotify, 1751 01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,559 Speaker 2: drop us a review you'll get shout out, give us 1752 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,600 Speaker 2: a rating, subscribe, download whatever you can really just help us. 1753 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 1: Follow James on Twitter at James underscore Giano. 1754 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 2: I'm Draftnick Mark with a C. Thank you guys for 1755 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,120 Speaker 2: listening and watching. We will catch you after the Cardinals 1756 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:31,759 Speaker 2: series bce. 1757 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 1: Out bas out see you guys next time. Let's go 1758 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 1: next that Rangel