1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Mo' kelly in for John and Ken, and over the 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: course of the week, we have been talking about the 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: issues with Southwest Airlines in recent days and how the 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: federal government has been pointing its finger at Southwest and 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: as far as meeting its obligations and doing better by 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: the American citizen ree and also we played the audio 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: of Secretary of Transportation Pete Buddha Judge as far as 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: what he hopes to accomplish, and we want to continue 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: with that conversation right now with ABC News correspondent Andy Field, 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: who joins us from Washington. Andy, good afternoon. How you're doing, sir. 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm good, mo. I'm not traveling anywhere. Apparently you're not either, 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: so we're both in better position than most of these 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: for folks who are sitting at airports hoping to get 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: home this holiday. It's been a real headache for virtually 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: every passenger who decided to fly south lest this year. 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: And there's a couple of reasons for that. Let's say 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: you flowed Romo Sloane Delta Airlines. Odds are that if 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: you had to get someplace and you had to change planes, 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: you ended up in Atlanta. There hub and hubs work 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: a whole lot better when it snows and there's big 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: flight cancelations and the way Southwest manages to do things, 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: which is get people from city to city to city 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: as fast as they possibly can. And so if you're 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: flying from Burbank to Baltimore, the airport closest to me 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: you're and you want to get across the country and 26 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: there's no direct flight, you could end up in Albuquerque 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: or Saint Louis and then maybe Nashville and then finally 28 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: get to Baltimore. That's how the flight might go. It's 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: much more efficient for them to pick up and drop 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: off people along the way than to fly all the 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: way to Atlanta, drop people off, to have the switch 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: planes and fly back to whatever destination. And it's worked 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: for Southwest from any many years. It doesn't work very 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: well when we have this big meltdown with snowstorms that 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: cancel flights all around the country because suddenly those flights 36 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: that are supposed to go from place to place to 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: place are stuck in places they shouldn't be. So the 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: next day they're not flying where they're going to go, 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: and they get these massive cancelations, and it takes a 40 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: long time for them to get that system back in operation. 41 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, the Pilots Association and the 42 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: Flight Attendant Association of the airline has said they've been 43 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: warning Southwest for years that the system of getting people 44 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: matched up with a plane, the pilots and the flight 45 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: attendants is so antiquated that at this point right now, 46 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: Southwest really doesn't know where all their people are, and 47 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: they're asking them to call in so they can literally 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: manually reschedule them for flights. All of that has turned 49 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: this whole thing into a much bigger disaster than it 50 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: might have been, and they've canceled I think I'll put 51 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: it's a fifteen thousand flights since the beginning of the holiday, 52 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: and the CEO says that they may not get back 53 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: in track until after New Year's there's Southwest getting back 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: on track in the sense of just conducting business, but 55 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: there's also dealing with the people who are either I 56 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: don't want to say displaced, but they had their flights 57 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: canceled and you can't necessarily go back and get the 58 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Christmas holidays. Do we know what Southwest is planning to 59 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: do to help make it right with customers. They've asked 60 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: people to keep receipts for hotels and reasonable receipts for 61 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: food and other transportation that they've been inconvenience. And it's 62 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: likely that Southwest will reimburse some of those folks for 63 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: that thing. They're not going to reimburse you from the 64 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: lost time moon in Mexico that you never got to, 65 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: or the wedding you couldn't get to, or the Christmas family. 66 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: There's no way you can do that with millions of passengers. 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: What they're required to do to the Transportation Department is 68 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: to if your flight is hanseled, to reimburse you the 69 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: full amount of that flight. Now, each airline has other things. 70 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: They have this kind of code of conduct that they're 71 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: supposed to file with the Transportation Department and live up 72 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: to it. Now, this is what Pete Buddhajes is saying, 73 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: is that if you have not lived up to this 74 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: code of conduct, you could face some kind of punishment, 75 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: some federal fines and otherwise, although it's not particularly specific, 76 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: what it is that the Federal Transportation Department can do 77 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: with the airline, and certainly you know passengers can file 78 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: some kind of class action suit against Southwest are not 79 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: being prepared for something they should have been, Because at 80 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: this point it's way beyond whether all the other airlines 81 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: have recovered their weather delays. Southwest is the only one 82 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: that hasn't. I wondered though, since you mentioned the other airlines, 83 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: I was curious to know whether there was any particular 84 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: airline which is affirmatively stepped forward and said, hey, Southwest flyers, 85 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: Delta Airlines hypothetically is here to help you. Send us 86 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: your travel arrangements and we'll see what we can do 87 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: for discounted price. Has any airlines stepped up to the 88 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: best year knowledge American cap their prices on routes that 89 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: they have in common with Southwest, so that if indeed 90 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: they have a seat and you present them with a 91 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: Southwest ticket, they will honor it, and I guess Southwest 92 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: will have to reimburse the United or American. Other than that, 93 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if any other airlines doing it. And 94 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: of course anyone who's traveled knows that if you book 95 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: something at the last minute, you're going to pay through 96 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: the those and those flight caused or astronomical But the 97 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: bigger problem is is that everyone wants to travel this week, 98 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: so there aren't that many free seats to accommodate these 99 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: thousands of passengers who were stranded. At this point, all 100 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: we can do is wait, as a traveler and also 101 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: just a lay person for Southwest to finally get its 102 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: act together. We touched upon how Pete Buddha Judge, as 103 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: a representative of the Biden administration, has wagged the finger 104 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: at Southwest. But my question I asked earlier in the day, 105 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: is it's one thing to say, hey, Southwest, get your 106 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: act together now after saying Southwest get your act together 107 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: last year? But is there any I mean, is there 108 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: any real consequence to Southwest operating in this sort of 109 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: way other than bad publicity? Well, I have not known dumbas, 110 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: but I can safely predict that you will see some 111 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: really angry hearings in Congress when they come back about 112 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: all of this. And what can Congress do to make 113 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: it so that the American flying public are protected against 114 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: this and some incentive for airlines do not have systems 115 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: that seem to be is off kilter in Southwest so 116 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: that this kind of thing doesn't happen together in the future. Well, 117 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: I mean, there's stock price has gone down, so there 118 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: has been a financial consequence to this. But if I'm 119 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: Southwest and if I can get through this, I mean, honestly, 120 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: we've seen any number of CEOs go before Congress, get 121 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: grilled by Congress, and then it's just business as usual 122 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: after that. There's really no consequences for corporate America. I 123 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: just wonder if this is not more of the same. 124 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: I know that's not an answer a question for you 125 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: to answer, but that's what I wonder, given that we 126 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: always see the CEOs being paraded before Congress and these 127 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: televised hearings and nothing really changes. I don't know why 128 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: this would be different. I think the point of instance 129 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: where that was in the case so that was with 130 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: the tobacco industry, and they got they got pretty bettered, 131 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: beaten up by Congress a number of years ago. And 132 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: the tobacco industry is not the same as it was 133 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: after those hearings and all the regulations and the punishment 134 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: they face. But you're right, you know, you see Facebook 135 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: up there in Twitter and all the other places becoming 136 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: human punching bags for Congress. But in the end, it 137 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: takes a whole lot of votes to get someone to 138 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: change regulations rules. I will see if it happens. Look, 139 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: there's no one who's more of a freaquent flyer than 140 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: members of Congress, I may like less than anyone else. Well, 141 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: we shall see what happens. Andy Field, ABC News, thanks 142 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: so much for today. Thank you both. This is the 143 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: Johnny Kin Show. Blake Trolley will join us with the 144 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: latest on these LA Street takeovers and some of the 145 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: incidents which have been transpired. So that's next. KFI AM 146 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,119 Speaker 1: six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. By now, 147 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: you may have seen the unfortunate and honestly horrible video 148 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: taken at an LA Street takeover in which a young 149 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: woman died, a twenty four year old woman, and you 150 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: get to see the moments right after this woman was hit. 151 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: The driver of a car who is doing donuts lost 152 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: control and then spun into a crowd, and then people 153 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: in that area tried to a call the driver. I'm 154 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: not so sure what happened to the driver at this point, 155 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: but it is a horrible scene. And joining us right 156 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: now is Cafi Zone and Blake Trolley with more information 157 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: on the street takeover and also what has happened subsequent 158 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: to that. Blake, how you doing, sir, doing well. But yeah, 159 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, that video absolutely horrific. I don't even 160 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: you know. It's one of those things when you see 161 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: you're really not ready to see, especially that opening scene 162 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: for those who haven't seen it. What I'm gonna do, 163 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: mo is, I'm gonna play some audio right now from 164 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: Detective Ryan Moreno. He breaks down what police have released, 165 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: a quick recap of events before we get into this. 166 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: There was a street takeover. This was in Hyde Park. 167 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: This was on Sunday. Cars formed a barricade so that 168 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: other cars could do donuts. One of those cars doing donuts, 169 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: a black Chevy Camaro, clipped a tow truck, lost control, 170 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: then went into a crowd of people. As you mentioned, 171 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: a twenty four year old woman was killed in this. 172 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: Now police think several other people and this is based 173 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: on the video that we saw, several other people have 174 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: been injured, including three who they're saying they think are 175 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: critically injured. Here's Detective Ryan Moreno again breaking down the 176 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: video that police have released. You're gonna see it's about 177 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: a minute twenty video. What about five or six videos 178 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: in it? The first ten seconds you're gonna see his 179 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: once the car loses control, comes off and strikes all 180 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: the pedestrians. Who happens is you're gonna see a male Haspanic, 181 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: looks like he's about eighteen twenty twenty years old on 182 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: the ground and it looks like he's having like a season, 183 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: so only he's sustained some massive head trauma or something. 184 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: But he's on the ground. You're gonna see that. We 185 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: don't know who this kid is, who this guy is, 186 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: so we're hoping family, somebody knows who this guy is 187 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: because I'm assuming this guy ended up at a hospital somewhere. 188 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: The next two videos you're gonna see back to back 189 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: are here at the gas station. You're gonna see two 190 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: Malespanics carrying a third male Spanic like shoulder to shoulder, 191 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: and then they place him inside of a gray like 192 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: a Honda or something. He looks like he's injured pretty bad. Um. Next, 193 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna see a female Hispanic wearing uh, she's wearing 194 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: I think black and red clothing. They're carrying her. She 195 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: looks like she's really injured, and they put her in 196 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: the back of an suv. Um. From that point, you're 197 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: gonna see the scuffle, the fight that happened again. The 198 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: kid that's on the ground that looks the peers to 199 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: be unconscious and he's getting punched. Um, we elect to 200 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: know who that person is, Um, his family or anybody 201 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: you know come up with that. And then uh so 202 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: the woman that he was talking about that was carried 203 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean she you know, her body is almost limp. 204 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: They're carrying it into a truck and her body is 205 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: is almost limp. Now when he was when he was 206 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: talking about that brawl footage there, mo um, we had 207 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: asked him what had happened. Um, that was my first 208 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: question when I looked at all of this video was 209 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: how did this brawl? How did this fight break out? 210 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: And what he said is he said, it's really common 211 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: in the in the street racing community for people when 212 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: they crashed a car to get pulled out of the 213 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: car and beat up. So I said, was that the 214 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: driver then on the ground that we're seeing get kicked 215 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: around and get jumped. He said, no, this might have 216 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: actually been the opposite in this situation. This may have 217 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: been somebody who pulled the driver out of the car 218 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: started beating them up for crashing the car. Then other 219 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: people retaliated against that person So the person who was 220 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: attacking the driver then ended up getting jumped, And I 221 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: asked why, you know why that might be. Why are 222 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: the roles reversed in this situation. There are people in 223 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: this in this culture with some of these car clubs 224 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: out a basically taken on a gang persona and basically 225 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: have a gang mentality. Some of these guys out are 226 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: in these car clubs are busy, but you'd say, is untouchable, 227 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: so they can crash and do whatever, But they don't. 228 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: You don't do that to them. So there you have it. There, 229 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: they're thinking the guy that you saw in the ground 230 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: there in that video being attacked was actually somebody who 231 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: attacked the driver. I do think we're going to see 232 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: some arrests announced soon. You know. The Camaro that hit 233 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: the tow truck lost control and hit the crowd was 234 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: actually left on scene. The driver took off on foot, 235 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: so they recovered that car. They say, that's a huge 236 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: win for them when trying to locate the driver. They 237 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: did stay really tight lip though as to how they've 238 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: used that Camaro to narrow down a suspect. The tow 239 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: truck was also recovered by police, so that tow truck 240 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: that they think was was being used as part of 241 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: the barricade to have this to have this street takeover. 242 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: Police have also recovered that, so I think again here 243 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: soon we're going to see some arrests announced. Was this 244 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: one to the best year knowledge the street takeover? Was 245 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: it something which was advertised or promoted on social media 246 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: or was it just through a small group of people 247 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: amongst them just maybe cell phones. As far as how 248 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: they disseminated the information, do we know how it came about? 249 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: I think investigators are trying to figure that out right now. 250 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: One of the questions that was asked today though, and 251 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: this might help, you know, answer that question of one 252 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: of the concerns that was addressed today as people are saying, well, 253 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: it took a while for at least to respond to this, 254 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: and the way it was described by police is that 255 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: it you know, it sounds like this is almost like 256 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: a game of whackable for them. These things just pop up, 257 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, he was saying, these things pop up all 258 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: over the place. We really don't have a lot of 259 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: we don't really have any good intel on you know, 260 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: when or where they're going to pop up. So it 261 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: makes it really hard for them to respond. So it 262 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: sounds like a lot of these things just kind of 263 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, with these car clubs, they just kind of 264 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: randomly start forming these sideshows. To the best of your knowledge, 265 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: is it safe to say that the car involved in 266 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: striking the pedestrians that was found unseen was not stolen 267 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: and likely owned by the driver. I would say yes, 268 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: only because they're being so tight lipped as to why, 269 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, how they're using the car in the investigation. Again, 270 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: they they you know, as we mentioned, they have the Camaro, 271 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: they have the tow truck. But it was asked, how 272 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: have you used this Camaro? Have you gone over? Have 273 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: you talked to the owner? And they said, sorry, you know, 274 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: at this point intil, we're not going to speak to that. 275 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: And I wonder, since we know that there is like 276 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: a gang like feel to this. I can't call them 277 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: gang members who are participating, but there's like a gang 278 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: like mentality. Most likely people are not helping out the 279 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: police as far as giving information. Yeah, and that detective 280 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: touched on that today too, saying that a lot of 281 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: times this makes it really difficult when you're working in 282 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: these situations. As you heard there you know, there's a 283 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: hierarchy system, and you know, very similarly to gangs as well. 284 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: He says, there is a system of people staying tight lipt. 285 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: It makes it really hard for investigators to do their 286 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: jobs on these situations. I wonder if the loss of 287 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: life or the injuries here will at least send a 288 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: message to someone who might have been considering participating or 289 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: taking place, or even just going to view one of 290 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: these street takeovers. They'll change their mind in the future 291 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: because they are still very dangerous. We'll have to wait 292 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: and see. Blake, thanks so much for your reporting on this, 293 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: and as you know more, I'm quite sure you'll check 294 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: in with us and offer us more. Yeah. Well, one 295 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: thing I do want to throw in, Do we have 296 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: a second absolutely? You know we are right on the 297 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: cusp of these street takeovers. You know, the punishments for 298 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: these street takeovers getting much more strict in the state 299 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: of California. Senate bill passed that essentially allows prosecutors to 300 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: drop felony manslaughter charges on people when these street takeovers 301 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: get deadly, so the people participating can be charged with 302 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: felony manslaughter. So that certainly is going to be a 303 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: tool I think we're going to be seeing used a 304 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: lot more next year. Blake, thanks so much, sir, Yeah, 305 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: thanks Bo. This is to John and Kin show k IF. 306 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: I am six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio 307 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: appomo in for John and Kin, I'm O'Kelly and for 308 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: Johnny Kin. You can always find me on Twitter at 309 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: mister O'Kelly m R m O k E l L Y. 310 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: As we continue the discussion of these issues. You can 311 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: find me on Instagram just in case you want to 312 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: see what I look like. Find some pictures whatever at 313 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: mister m'kelly and my personal websit mistermokelly dot com. Before 314 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: the break, I was speaking to Kfis Blake Trolley about 315 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: these LA street takeovers in this most recent yet unfortunate 316 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: incident in which a young woman was killed as a 317 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: bystander watching one of these takeovers. Obviously they're very dangerous 318 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: and also Blake told us about there's a propensity for 319 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: violence as it's adjacent to the gang culture in many ways. Now, 320 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: this is not my generation. I've never had any desire 321 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: to go to a street takeover. Have I done stupid things? Yes? 322 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: Have I done dangerous things? Yes, but the idea of 323 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: watching people do donuts and burnouts and being in close 324 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: proximity to it, that wasn't my thing. Now, I will 325 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: say there was a time in which I did some 326 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: street racing, not lying, not necessarily proud of that, but 327 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: yeah I did do that. So I to this conversation 328 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: fully admitting I've done some dumb stuff over the years, 329 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: and I'm not passing judgment over the next generation or 330 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: next generations also doing dumb stuff. I just want to 331 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: understand what goes into some of the decision making behind it. 332 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: And producer Dana had the opportunity, I wouldn't say, to 333 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: go undercover, but to see at least one of these 334 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: street takeovers in person, and you're close enough at age 335 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: where they didn't think that you were like an undercover 336 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: agent or anything, did they? No? So when I mean 337 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: I went, I was eating casually eating tacos, you know, 338 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: in Compton, and all you hear is just screeching, and 339 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: so my friend and I went over and then it's 340 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: like this huge crowd comes out of nowhere, surrounds and 341 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, the street and all you see are two 342 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: cars circling around. So my investigative journalism kicks in and says, 343 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: you know what, let me do it for Conway. He 344 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: always talks about not being invited to one, so let 345 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: me go get some quick footage and you know, show 346 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: him that what I saw. So I go, and it 347 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: is the most frightening thing, at least for me. I 348 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: see like teenagers, kids just hanging out, not fearing anything. 349 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: They're just standing there. They don't even flinch. I'm standing 350 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: all the way back just in case any car flips over, 351 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: and then you know, I'm just thinking the worst. But 352 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm there probably like forty minutes. No cops, nothing, no 353 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: one comes to stop them. So that was interesting to 354 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: see that. Okay, forty minutes. Now, describe the intersection for me. 355 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: Was it a large intersection where you had the full 356 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: compliment of lights where you had the standard traffic light 357 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: and the left turn signal. How big was the intersection? 358 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: It was not that big. It was standard. I mean 359 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: there was a park, so it was on I think 360 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: it was on Atlantic and Calm din um if I'm 361 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: not mistaken, but um, yeah, it was really small. I've 362 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: seen other streets on Long Beach Boulevard and you know 363 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: a laundrette where they have the I believe they're called 364 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: bots dots. Where they yet, Yeah, where they actually are 365 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: trying to implement some change in the streets of you know, 366 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: in Compton. But as far as that, it was more intimate. 367 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: So obviously those bots dots are not going to fit 368 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: there because it's such a smaller street. But honestly, the 369 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: most scariest thing ever. But you want to watch, but 370 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: at the same time you want to close your eyes 371 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: because it's just like you don't want anyone to get hurt. 372 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: But I mean I ended up leaving and the crowd 373 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: was still there, and then it just gets dispersed, but 374 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: not because the police showed up or anything, just because 375 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: it was over. It's a hot spot, so you need 376 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: to go to the next location. So I actually didn't 377 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: find it online or anything. I just happened to be there. 378 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: Did you talk to anyone who was there? Did you 379 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: casually say hey, what's going on? Or who organized? Did 380 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: you have any interaction with anyone? No, I didn't want 381 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: to ask. I didn't want to, you know, I wanted 382 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: very low key, undercover type of thing. Yeah. Did you 383 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: notice anything about the crowd? Were they mostly high schoolers? 384 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: Did they seem over the age of eighteen. What did 385 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: you notice about that? They were really young? They were 386 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: so young, you know they have It's sad because they 387 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: were all in the front. They didn't even you know, 388 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: they were so close to the cars there, you know, 389 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: you would think at least for me, I was all 390 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: the way in the back. I was on top of 391 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: I don't even know what it was, but I was 392 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: trying to stay away from it, and my friend, who 393 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: was in her thirties, she didn't want to do have 394 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: any part of it. So I think it's definitely a 395 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: gen Z thing, not a millennial thing. Since you saw that, 396 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: does it necessarily change for you as far as what 397 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: you think law enforcement or government officials can or should do, 398 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: because from what you said, there was no law enforcement response. 399 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm just making an assumption. Someone probably called the police, 400 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: probably from the way you described it, given how many 401 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: people were there, but not definitely. Is there anything that 402 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: we realistically can do about something like this? You know, 403 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: I'm not sure as far as law enforcement, but I 404 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: think that I was thinking, like, what is it, you know, 405 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: why are they taking so long? Why are they you 406 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: know they're not here? Because it was pretty loud and 407 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: it's a residential area, so the fact that they didn't come, 408 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking they're just ignoring it. They're just like, you know, 409 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: they don't want to deal with it. As far as 410 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, trying to get rid of these you know, 411 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: the cups are there. There's literally no one stopping it. 412 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know as far I mean, they're trying 413 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: to write with the butt dots, they're trying to implement 414 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: some change, but as far as actually I think they 415 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: have to go and start ticketing. Did it seem like 416 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: it was coordinated? In other words, were there hundreds of 417 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 1: people at one time who showed up or was it 418 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: more of a trickle effect. We had maybe twenty five 419 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: thirty and then people in the neighborhood realized what was 420 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: going on and so they decided to join in. It 421 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: was definitely a trickle effect because I seen, I remember 422 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: watching other people get out of their homes to come in, 423 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, and to participate and look at it. So 424 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: it definitely turned into something that started off small and 425 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: then grew it because I also saw other people you know, 426 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: coming from like a party, and then they joined in 427 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: as well, so definitely grew. So last question, where there 428 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: only two cars or did other cars kind of drive 429 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: in and decide, hey, I want some of this as well. 430 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, it was it was getting bigger. So there 431 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting because there's cars that wait for their turn, 432 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: so there is probably like six or seven cars waiting 433 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: their turn to go next, so they're you know, waiting 434 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: for the burnouts. And then afterwards there is a point 435 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: in time where there's two cars at the same time 436 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: going and I thought this was going to be tragic. 437 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: This was absolutely you know. So they they organized for sure, 438 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: and then all you hear in the back at the 439 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: end of it are these cars getting destroyed. These kids 440 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: are investing in these cars that their parents probably you know, 441 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: had them work for and no good parents gave to them. 442 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: They didn't work for them. Because I'm sorry to jump 443 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: in there, if you work for those tires and had 444 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: to pay for those tires and pay for the maintenance 445 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: in your car, that's the last thing you would be 446 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: doing with your car. But go ahead, right But but again, 447 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of something, you know, 448 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: some people, these kids nowadays, they do whatever it takes 449 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: to be included and to feel like they're part of 450 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: the trend. Or whatever. You know bad is going on. 451 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, so there was definitely cars destroyed completely. You 452 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: can hear them circling after they're burnouts. They'll go around 453 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: the block and completely destroyed. How their cars destroyed incredible, Dana, 454 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: thanks so much for that. This is to John and Kinshaw. 455 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: O'Kelly in for John and kN KF. 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Wanting to talk about it. 475 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: And if you have been following me on Twitter at 476 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: mister Bokelly m O K E l l Y, I 477 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: have been following the travails of Twitter and Tesla. I've 478 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: been making the argument that the fortunes are intertwined. If 479 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: you've been keeping up with this, you know that Elon 480 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: Musk has been selling more that has sold more than 481 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: twenty three billion dollars worth of Tesla stock and infusing 482 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: that cash from it into Twitter to keep Twitter afloat. 483 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: He has said that publicly. It's not debatable. He said 484 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: it's to staff. News reports about that, so that's not 485 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: a secret. And I was saying, not only does that 486 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: have a negative impact on Twitter anytime when you have 487 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: a excuse me, on Tesla, anytime that you're selling as 488 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: a founder or principal investor, selling all sorts of stock 489 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: of this company that you control. That sends the negative 490 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: message to investors. It's also not sustainable as a way 491 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: of funding Twitter. So Twitter is going to have to 492 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: find a way to fund itself and walk on its 493 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: own two legs, and Tesla won't be there to be 494 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: able to help Twitter long term. But I did make 495 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: the point, and this was about a month ago, that 496 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: the fortunes of Tesla and Twitter were going to be intertwined. 497 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: In just in case you don't know, this is how 498 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: I feel about Elon Musk. Don't know the guy, have 499 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: met the guy. I think he's great for a Twitter presence, 500 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: in other words, a personality on Twitter. I think he's 501 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: not helping Twitter gain advertisers. I think that he's making 502 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: it very difficult for it to turn a profit because 503 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: when you have someone who is as public as Elon 504 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: Musk making statements which some would say are controversial, everybody 505 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: would say are political, it makes advertisers skittish and it 506 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: makes it very difficult to grow a business, a business 507 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: which he paid forty four billion dollars for, and he 508 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: has a debt interests responsibility of one point two billion 509 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: per year. It's not just about cutting costs. He has 510 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: to generate revenue to pay for Twitter the forty four billion, 511 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: not just as operating costs. You know, like you bought 512 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: that car for forty four billion. It's fine that you 513 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: want to not drive it everywhere and you want to 514 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: save on gas. That's great, but you still have to 515 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: pay for the car that you bought, and those payments 516 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: are still coming in terms of that debt interest. And 517 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: he has other investors that he went in with to 518 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,479 Speaker 1: purchase Twitter. It wasn't all of his money. There were 519 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: other people that want to recoup their money. And the 520 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: only way that Twitter can recoup that cost of investment 521 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 1: is through subscriptions and advertisers, and Elon Musk has made 522 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: it clear that he does not want to go the 523 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: advertiser route. He wants people to purchase services through Twitter, 524 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: be at Twitter Blue or other features which are available 525 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: on Twitter. I think Elon Musk is a hoot as 526 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: a Twitter as he calls himself the chief Twit. I 527 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: like following him, I like what he has to say, 528 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: I like how he trolls people. But as the CEO 529 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: of Twitter, I don't think he's working for him. I 530 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: don't think he's having a positive impact on growing that 531 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: business or turning it into something that's financially profitable. And 532 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: before you say, well, he's a billionaire, he's been successful 533 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: at test Life, he's been successful at SpaceX. Yeah, but 534 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: he was adventure capitalist. He didn't create those ideas. He 535 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: sort of got in early as an investor and then 536 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: grew it wasn't something that was already in existence, and 537 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: he overpaid and exorbitant out of money for and then 538 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: has to quickly turn that around into a profitable business. 539 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: But my larger point is Twitter and Tesla are tied 540 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: because of not only Elon Musk, but Elon Musk's behavior. 541 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: And if you've been watching the stock of Tesla, it 542 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: has been on an eight day free fall. In fact, 543 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: to be specific, it had been on a downward slope 544 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: for seven consecutive days and then today it went up. 545 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: I'd like maybe a dollar or two. But when I 546 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: first started talking about Twitter, the stock was into two hundreds. 547 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: Now it's like one hundred and twelve, one hundred and thirteen. 548 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: Elon Musk has lost almost almost half of his fortune 549 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: just from the devaluation of Tesla alone that's unsustainable. Is 550 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: the devaluing of the Tesla stock. Is that you think 551 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: directly related to Twitter and his antics there and the 552 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: failings of being able to make a profit on that, 553 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: Or is it the Tesla itself has not been selling 554 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: as much and it has been harder to keep that 555 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: going while also having space Link and also everything everything 556 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: else that Tesla is just suffering because of Tesla. It's 557 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: a combination of things and people. I want people to 558 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: really hear me. Right now, Tesla is suffering from issues 559 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: with its China plant. Tesla is suffering from issues of 560 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: marketplace dominance that it had a year ago that it 561 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: doesn't have now because everybody in their mama has a 562 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: EV which is respectable at least in nature. It's not 563 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: like Tesla is the only game in town. A portion 564 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: of that is I would say elon Musk's focus on 565 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: Twitter to the extent that Tesla may be neglected, to 566 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: the extent that SpaceX may be neglected, to the extent 567 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: that Starlink may be neglected, and there may be some 568 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: opportunities which are missed. It's not all because of Twitter. 569 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: And I've never said that and I've never even thought that, 570 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: but Twitter plays a role because much of a stock 571 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: price is about confidence. It's about where you think a 572 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: company is going. It's not necessarily what you think about 573 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: it right now. It's like where you think it will 574 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: be in six months and six months, And if you're 575 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: purchasing stock, you think that that company will be better 576 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: off in six months, then it will be right now. 577 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: And all of the indicators regarding Tesla in terms of 578 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: its industry, in terms of its specific company dynamics, in 579 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: terms of how the bad news which has been coming 580 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: out regarding Tesla and itself driving quote unquote cars, how 581 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: it's discounting evs to the tune of seventy five hundred dollars, 582 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: all of those things suggest that Tesla is not in 583 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: a good place. When you combine that with what he 584 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: Elon Musk has been saying and behaving on Twitter, it 585 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: does send the message that Twitter is not necessarily in 586 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: a good place and his focus is distracted, his priority 587 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: is elsewhere. That also impacts the Tesla stock price. Now 588 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: it's not all Twitter, but Tesla won't be there to 589 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: financially undergird Twitter because you can't keep buying. And also buying, 590 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: selling your stock. Selling your Tesla stock impacts the valuation 591 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: of Twitter. People have been buying Tesla stock and no, 592 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,719 Speaker 1: let's say the principal investor, Elon Musk has been selling 593 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: Tesla stock and that stock has decreased in value, which 594 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: I would say sends the message that Elon Musk knows 595 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: that Tesla had hit its peak. Now, this is speculation 596 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: on my part, but much of what happens to a 597 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: stock has to do with speculation. It's not that it's 598 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: not static in nature. Where Tesla is one hundred and 599 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: thirteen dollars today and it's going to be one hundred 600 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: and twenty dollars tomorrow because of something that happened. No, 601 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: it's a reaction to maybe some news which has come out, 602 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: maybe something that was said in an earnings call. That 603 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: next earnings call is not until January, I think, but 604 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: it could be any number of things. Twitter is in 605 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: that equation. I don't think it's the largest variable in 606 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: that equation. But the other top Twitter investors have said 607 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: publicly that they are concerned that Elon Musk is not 608 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: focusing enough on Tesla, and that's part of the issue 609 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: why people have lost hear me billions and billions of dollars, 610 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: which would be why he has announced he is actively 611 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: looking for a new CEO for Twitter. Well, he's announced that, 612 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: and if you believe what the gossip is, he's been 613 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: pressured to do that short of them him being removed 614 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: by the shareholders of Tesla. In other words, like, if 615 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: you don't get Twitter out of the way and under 616 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: control and at least send the message to our investors 617 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 1: at Tesla that you're focusing and available for the needs 618 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: of Tesla, then will push you out. So yet now 619 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: you can also argue that whoever Elon Musk hires with 620 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: my air quotes as a new CEO will just be 621 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: doing the bidding of Elon Musk. But at the same time, 622 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: I think he tweets too much given his responsibilities elsewhere, 623 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: and how that can negatively impact his own interests. I mean, 624 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, his own tweeting has impacted his advertising defections, 625 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: so that can't be argued, and he has to replace 626 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: that that revenue somewhere, and as of yet he has not. 627 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: I like Elon Musk the tweeter. You know, he's a 628 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: great follow he's interesting, he's funny, he's engaging, he's self 629 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: deprecating at times, but I can't point to any evidence 630 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: that Twitter is doing better than when he bought it financially. 631 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: And since he's taken a private we don't get to 632 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: see it in that information. We're not getting an earnings call, 633 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: we're not getting a stock price. We're just getting whatever 634 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: Elon Musk tells us until he all of a sudden 635 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: says we're going out of business or we're turning this 636 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: or that type of profit. And it's been pretty opaque. 637 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: He has not shown us anything, but we do know 638 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: that he's lost a lot of advertising revenue, and we 639 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: do know that it's going to be advertising revenue or 640 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: subscriptions to keep Twitter afloat. And he has said that 641 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: Twitter was on the verge of bankruptcy if not for 642 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: him selling his own Tesla shares. That's not a good sign. 643 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: And that's what he's saying, and I'll take him at 644 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: his word. To John and Ken Show, Mokell here calf 645 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: I am six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.